Movies ?
It's fantasy time again. I was musing on export/write to file a sequence of images as, either, an animated GIF, or a .mov/.avi file. I could just load the image sequence into Quicktime Pro and press button A: but that would not work in, say, a stack/standalone that would generate a film for an end-user automatically. Clever people might be able to automate Quicktime from inside LC, but that presupposes the end-user has Quicktime Pro on their machine. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Stupid simple version control using dropbox
On 07/02/14 14:50, Geoff Canyon wrote: Not sure if this has been posted before, but just in case: If you store your stack files in the dropbox folder on your computer, dropbox does a really good job of saving a copy of each separate file whenever the file is saved. You can look at a list of the saved versions and get/restore any of them. It's not git, but as a file-level resource it's a 1000x better than nothing. I borked up some code last night (never try to solve a problem at 3am that stumped you at 9pm) so I'm really happy that I can just revert to the 9pm version and forget whatever it is I did later on. In the interest of balance I feel I should put in a word for Spideroak, which has given me similarly useful service. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spideroak It took me a while to configure it to my taste, as its UI is somewhat eccentric, but I'm happy enough with it. Its major SP is the zero-knowledge client-side encryption. While that isn't verifiable and I personally have no inclination to use any off-site service to store seriously valuable secrets (assuming I had any), whether encrypted or not, there are sometimes passwords and so-on embedded in my files and I'd rather not carry the vague or nagging worry that I am exposing those in plaintext to the marauding legions of network snoops and sneaks. You don't have to set up a special folder for it, you can configure it to backup whatever folders you want, and you have the option of keeping a local offline repo as well. It certainly is really useful to be able to dig out old, good copies of obscure files that have been corrupted for months before you realised it, or even new ones that got trashed in some senior moment. Worth a look maybe? Martin ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Movies ?
Hi Richmond, I have used the Enhanced QT external to create Snapper Screen Recorder. Additionally, there are severa image2movie utilities. There are also command line utilities such as ffmpeg, which can do this. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Use Color Converter to convert CMYK, RGB, RAL, XYZ, H.Lab and other colour spaces. http://www.color-converter.com Buy my new book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner http://qery.us/3fi LiveCode on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/runrev/ On 2/10/2014 11:29, Richmond wrote: It's fantasy time again. I was musing on export/write to file a sequence of images as, either, an animated GIF, or a .mov/.avi file. I could just load the image sequence into Quicktime Pro and press button A: but that would not work in, say, a stack/standalone that would generate a film for an end-user automatically. Clever people might be able to automate Quicktime from inside LC, but that presupposes the end-user has Quicktime Pro on their machine. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: LiveCode in Elementary Schools
It would be perfect for younger students to learn about computers and programming. They can easily start writing programs without a lot of teaching. Then once they get excited about what they have created and want to do more, you slowly introduce the concepts and programming constructs. It works very well in the classroom LiveCode, especially, lends itself to students moving ahead on their own. Since it is so English-like, they do not have problems learning the language. The ones who do move ahead are excited to show what they have done and teach their peers what they have learned. They also help each other when problems arise or someone wants to do something different or more difficult. Education is moving more towards project-based lessons with emphasis on creativity, independent learning, research, collaboration, teamwork, analytical thinking, project decomposition, problem solving and other skills more relevant to real life and success in one's careers. That is LiveCode. I am working with elementary schools to develop lessons and would be willing to share what we do. I have been teaching high school students LiveCode for over 4 years now and have learned much about how they work and learn. I have a website that we use and you are welcome to use it to become more familiar with LiveCode: https://sites.google.com/a/pgcps.org/livecode/home Although it is rather old, I will be revising it over the summer. I will also be adding teacher's pages with help, assignments and tips. What we develop for the elementary grades will be there too, on separate pages. I welcome any contributions and insights that you may have once you start using it in your classroom. Welcome to the world of LiveCode and kudos for being willing to use it in the classroom. It is the right decision. Thanks, Cyril Pruszko From: j...@unmla.com To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Subject: LiveCode in Elementary Schools Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 05:43:33 + Hi. I'm interested in learning whether LiveCode is an appropriate tool for introducing elementary school children to the field of computer science. Does anyone know of any case studies, resources, or other leads along these lines? Also, I'd be interested in knowing whether there are any other LiveCode enthusiasts in Northern New Mexico. Thanks, Joseph ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: repeating string
the BASIC RPT$ syntax is s not LC. of might work, though. I also hate the * syntax. Yes, I know what it means, but I'm a CS junkie. On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 12:54 AM, Jerry Jensen j...@jhj.com wrote: How about rpt(15,5) ? If you don't quote the 15, the numberformat would take effect, I guess. On Feb 8, 2014, at 9:41 PM, Geoff Canyon gcan...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 9:06 AM, Mike Kerner mikeker...@roadrunner.com wrote: put 30 a into goop, but that is a recipe for failure, and put 30 a's into goop is almost unreadable If we're devising syntax, I think some other languages use * as in: put 30 * a into goop This still runs into problems because of LC's typeless variables: put 5 * 15 -- puts 75 put 5 * 15 -- puts 1515151515 put 15 into x put 5 * 15 -- puts 75 put 15 into x put 5 * 15 -- still puts 75, nor should it change Perhaps of? put 5 of 15 -- puts 1515151515 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Crowd Funding Enhancements
I started this thread on the other list, but it's time to bring it over here. Now that LC is OSS, I'm thinking of starting a fund to get other things done in LC. For example, * code folding * stack-level setting for giving equal rights to all items, especially the last one * macros in the script editor * multiple columns in the script editor on wide monitors * A real report editor/designer * Purchase a skinning tool like tmC or MG and make it part of the product. Malte has his own list: 1) Feature: reworked networking library (libURL is a bit dated), which would elevate IPv6 support and goodies like SFTP 2) Fix: Modal dialogue makes app vanish from Task Switcher on Windows 3) Feature: Reworked Multimedia Support (I want sound channels like we have on mobile for the desktop) , new Player Object 4) Feature: Sub Pixel positioning 5) Feature: Free Transform (rotate/ transform) for all controls One way this might work: we could throw out an idea, get bids from the community and even from Edinburgh to deal with it, and then fund it. Feedback, please. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: new way closing a stack in IOS 7
Hi Ender, Thanks a lot. I think this solution is a bit risky but I will try it on a test app. Alain Le 2014-02-07 à 11:59, Ender Nafi Elekcioglu endern...@keehuna.com a écrit : Hi Alain, I think what you’re asking is in fact *how to keep alive your app even in the background*; then this is what you need: http://forums.runrev.com/viewtopic.php?f=49t=1#p95224 And here is the answer of your second question: https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/documentation/userexperience/conceptual/MobileHIG/IconMatrix.html Best, ~ Ender Nafi From: Alain Vezina Alain Vezina Reply: Alain Vezina alain.vez...@logilangue.com Date: February 7, 2014 at 18:49:46 To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Subject: new way closing a stack in IOS 7 Hi All, You know that in IOS 7 there is a way to pass from one app to another : you double press the home button and all the active apps appear in a row, letting you browse from one to another without closing anyone of them. If you want to close any app of this row, you push it up. So, I would like to find the way to do this in LC 6.5. I spent 2 hours in the dictionary and in the tutorials without finding any clue for that question. I am also wondering to what extend Apple obliges developers to be IOS 7 in their apps : I am talking about background image, buttons shape, icons, colors and so on. Regards Alain Vézina Logilangue 514-596-1385 www.logilangue.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Crowd Funding Enhancements
I'm originally from Chicago... so in the tradition of that great city, I'm stuffing the virtual ballot box with votes for this one!! Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan On 2/11/14 12:02 AM, Mike Kerner wrote: * A real report editor/designer ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Crowd Funding Enhancements
Hi Awhile back I proposed a (How to) to offer a LC Codebook for all users to use online to manage their scripts and several other types of LC content. I only got a minimal interest. I am still learning LiveCode like so many other developers. I found the LiveCode has a rather good Dictionary if you have the time to thumb through the current 1900+ records. It occurred to me to learn LiveCode a novice or better developer needs a better interface and to add code tracking in the distionary. If this could be hosted and allow all users to add their script knowledge to this dictionary along with custom properties, and custom functions it would be a real asset. I would also have the app able to use a very good search feature across any data or fields in the database where keywords or phrases can be searched. This would call all elements for any dictionary element/s in a selected group to be reviewed. The current dictionary is not very useful if you have to search across the entire dictionary. I am about half way through the dictionary adding the body of records. When it is done I will offer the dictionary to all users. Thank you Vaughn Clement Apps by Vaughn Clement (Support) *http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/ http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/* Skype: vaughn.clement https://secure.join.me/appsbyvclement FaceTime: vclem...@gmail.com LogMeIn also avaialble Call on ooVoo at address: vaughnclement or 9282549062 Ph. 928-254-9062 On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 8:02 AM, Mike Kerner mikeker...@roadrunner.comwrote: I started this thread on the other list, but it's time to bring it over here. Now that LC is OSS, I'm thinking of starting a fund to get other things done in LC. For example, * code folding * stack-level setting for giving equal rights to all items, especially the last one * macros in the script editor * multiple columns in the script editor on wide monitors * A real report editor/designer * Purchase a skinning tool like tmC or MG and make it part of the product. Malte has his own list: 1) Feature: reworked networking library (libURL is a bit dated), which would elevate IPv6 support and goodies like SFTP 2) Fix: Modal dialogue makes app vanish from Task Switcher on Windows 3) Feature: Reworked Multimedia Support (I want sound channels like we have on mobile for the desktop) , new Player Object 4) Feature: Sub Pixel positioning 5) Feature: Free Transform (rotate/ transform) for all controls One way this might work: we could throw out an idea, get bids from the community and even from Edinburgh to deal with it, and then fund it. Feedback, please. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Crowd Funding Enhancements
We¹re definitely interested. The potential issue I have is that this stuff was (mostly) promised from Kickstarter and indeed either planned and specced or even being worked on. Mostly it will be delivered this year at various points. You guys already backed us on Kickstarter and we can will be deliver. The only thing we could do would be to speed things up by further expanding our dev team, which could bring delivery forward for ³pet² features. I guess we could crowd fund that. So - here is an open question I don¹t know the answer to. Is there appetite for this in the community? Or would you rather just wait now? This really is at the ³thinking out loud stage², happy to get a range of views as we talk about this internally some more. Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode: Everyone can code On 10/02/2014 15:02, Mike Kerner mikeker...@roadrunner.com wrote: I started this thread on the other list, but it's time to bring it over here. Now that LC is OSS, I'm thinking of starting a fund to get other things done in LC. For example, * code folding * stack-level setting for giving equal rights to all items, especially the last one * macros in the script editor * multiple columns in the script editor on wide monitors * A real report editor/designer * Purchase a skinning tool like tmC or MG and make it part of the product. Malte has his own list: 1) Feature: reworked networking library (libURL is a bit dated), which would elevate IPv6 support and goodies like SFTP 2) Fix: Modal dialogue makes app vanish from Task Switcher on Windows 3) Feature: Reworked Multimedia Support (I want sound channels like we have on mobile for the desktop) , new Player Object 4) Feature: Sub Pixel positioning 5) Feature: Free Transform (rotate/ transform) for all controls One way this might work: we could throw out an idea, get bids from the community and even from Edinburgh to deal with it, and then fund it. Feedback, please. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: new way closing a stack in IOS 7
This remains unsupported for now, but will hopefully (re)appear as an option at some point during the engine refactoring process. A checkbox was in the standalone builder in the past but hidden. To enhance what your app can do while suspended, take a look at http://mergext.com/home/mergbgtask/ On 2/10/14, 10:13 AM, Alain Vezina alain.vez...@logilangue.com wrote: Hi Ender, Thanks a lot. I think this solution is a bit risky but I will try it on a test app. Alain Le 2014-02-07 à 11:59, Ender Nafi Elekcioglu endern...@keehuna.com a écrit : Hi Alain, I think what you¹re asking is in fact *how to keep alive your app even in the background*; then this is what you need: http://forums.runrev.com/viewtopic.php?f=49t=1#p95224 And here is the answer of your second question: https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/documentation/userexperience/conceptu al/MobileHIG/IconMatrix.html Best, ~ Ender Nafi From: Alain Vezina Alain Vezina Reply: Alain Vezina alain.vez...@logilangue.com Date: February 7, 2014 at 18:49:46 To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Subject: new way closing a stack in IOS 7 Hi All, You know that in IOS 7 there is a way to pass from one app to another : you double press the home button and all the active apps appear in a row, letting you browse from one to another without closing anyone of them. If you want to close any app of this row, you push it up. So, I would like to find the way to do this in LC 6.5. I spent 2 hours in the dictionary and in the tutorials without finding any clue for that question. I am also wondering to what extend Apple obliges developers to be IOS 7 in their apps : I am talking about background image, buttons shape, icons, colors and so on. Regards Alain Vézina Logilangue 514-596-1385 www.logilangue.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Crowd Funding Enhancements
Since we all work on software too, some of us professionally, we understand it takes a while sometimes to deliver on a road map. I also understand that many kickstarter projects might add stretch goals that are indeed a bit of a stretch to deliver on to try and build/keep excitement. But progress that we are privy too on these things is less than visible as we go in to a whole year later territory. Any kind of timelines or updates on any of the stretch goals other than theming/res independence would be great. While I understand that is probably the hardest stretch goal you have had to deliver, it is also the least important to folks who aren't doing mac or mobile dev. I think a lot of us are happy to wait, but that a few of us seem to be getting concerned lately that we won't get many of those stretch goals any time in the next year or two. On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Kevin Miller ke...@runrev.com wrote: We¹re definitely interested. The potential issue I have is that this stuff was (mostly) promised from Kickstarter and indeed either planned and specced or even being worked on. Mostly it will be delivered this year at various points. You guys already backed us on Kickstarter and we can will be deliver. The only thing we could do would be to speed things up by further expanding our dev team, which could bring delivery forward for ³pet² features. I guess we could crowd fund that. So - here is an open question I don¹t know the answer to. Is there appetite for this in the community? Or would you rather just wait now? This really is at the ³thinking out loud stage², happy to get a range of views as we talk about this internally some more. Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode: Everyone can code On 10/02/2014 15:02, Mike Kerner mikeker...@roadrunner.com wrote: I started this thread on the other list, but it's time to bring it over here. Now that LC is OSS, I'm thinking of starting a fund to get other things done in LC. For example, * code folding * stack-level setting for giving equal rights to all items, especially the last one * macros in the script editor * multiple columns in the script editor on wide monitors * A real report editor/designer * Purchase a skinning tool like tmC or MG and make it part of the product. Malte has his own list: 1) Feature: reworked networking library (libURL is a bit dated), which would elevate IPv6 support and goodies like SFTP 2) Fix: Modal dialogue makes app vanish from Task Switcher on Windows 3) Feature: Reworked Multimedia Support (I want sound channels like we have on mobile for the desktop) , new Player Object 4) Feature: Sub Pixel positioning 5) Feature: Free Transform (rotate/ transform) for all controls One way this might work: we could throw out an idea, get bids from the community and even from Edinburgh to deal with it, and then fund it. Feedback, please. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Andrew Kluthe and...@ctech.me ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Crowd Funding Enhancements
Actually its the core refactor / Unicode that was the really tough bit. A long time with heads down and only internal dps so far. But in terms of actual throughput its been massive. The other goals aren’t of the same scope and as such aren’t as far away as it may seem. We’re deep into planning for the next phase at the moment. So I’ll write you guys a more extensive post and/or a newsletter article with an update on things within the next couple of weeks. Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode: Everyone can code On 10/02/2014 15:56, Andrew Kluthe and...@ctech.me wrote: Since we all work on software too, some of us professionally, we understand it takes a while sometimes to deliver on a road map. I also understand that many kickstarter projects might add stretch goals that are indeed a bit of a stretch to deliver on to try and build/keep excitement. But progress that we are privy too on these things is less than visible as we go in to a whole year later territory. Any kind of timelines or updates on any of the stretch goals other than theming/res independence would be great. While I understand that is probably the hardest stretch goal you have had to deliver, it is also the least important to folks who aren't doing mac or mobile dev. I think a lot of us are happy to wait, but that a few of us seem to be getting concerned lately that we won't get many of those stretch goals any time in the next year or two. On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Kevin Miller ke...@runrev.com wrote: We¹re definitely interested. The potential issue I have is that this stuff was (mostly) promised from Kickstarter and indeed either planned and specced or even being worked on. Mostly it will be delivered this year at various points. You guys already backed us on Kickstarter and we can will be deliver. The only thing we could do would be to speed things up by further expanding our dev team, which could bring delivery forward for ³pet² features. I guess we could crowd fund that. So - here is an open question I don¹t know the answer to. Is there appetite for this in the community? Or would you rather just wait now? This really is at the ³thinking out loud stage², happy to get a range of views as we talk about this internally some more. Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode: Everyone can code On 10/02/2014 15:02, Mike Kerner mikeker...@roadrunner.com wrote: I started this thread on the other list, but it's time to bring it over here. Now that LC is OSS, I'm thinking of starting a fund to get other things done in LC. For example, * code folding * stack-level setting for giving equal rights to all items, especially the last one * macros in the script editor * multiple columns in the script editor on wide monitors * A real report editor/designer * Purchase a skinning tool like tmC or MG and make it part of the product. Malte has his own list: 1) Feature: reworked networking library (libURL is a bit dated), which would elevate IPv6 support and goodies like SFTP 2) Fix: Modal dialogue makes app vanish from Task Switcher on Windows 3) Feature: Reworked Multimedia Support (I want sound channels like we have on mobile for the desktop) , new Player Object 4) Feature: Sub Pixel positioning 5) Feature: Free Transform (rotate/ transform) for all controls One way this might work: we could throw out an idea, get bids from the community and even from Edinburgh to deal with it, and then fund it. Feedback, please. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Andrew Kluthe and...@ctech.me ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Crowd Funding Enhancements
Hi all, With the right funding, I would consider making Quartam Reports open-source under a dual license. This would obviate the need for a whole new project that has to go through all the same pains I did. Admittedly, things have been quiet on the news front, but I have been preparing two major updates. One brings a series of enhancements to the current version, and the other constitutes a complete rewrite. The point of the rewrite is to bring the report runtime up-to-date with the latest LiveCode features. And to tame the beast that is the report editor which has proven harder to maintain than planned. Best regards, Jan Schenkel. = Quartam Reports PDF Library for LiveCode www.quartam.com = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) On Mon, 2/10/14, Tim Selander selan...@tkf.att.ne.jp wrote: Subject: Re: Crowd Funding Enhancements To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Date: Monday, February 10, 2014, 7:14 AM I'm originally from Chicago... so in the tradition of that great city, I'm stuffing the virtual ballot box with votes for this one!! Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan On 2/11/14 12:02 AM, Mike Kerner wrote: * A real report editor/designer ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Crowd Funding Enhancements
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Andrew Kluthe and...@ctech.me wrote: Any kind of timelines or updates on any of the stretch goals other than theming/res independence would be great. While I understand that is probably the hardest stretch goal you have had to deliver, it is also the least important to folks who aren't doing mac or mobile dev. I just wanted to point out that resolution independence applies to Windows as well. Windows has a high DPI mode which you can read about here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd464660(VS.85).aspx Once the user sets the zoom on their Windows install to 150% it enters high DPI mode. I've seen this become an issue more and more recently with my products and have to ask customers to set the zoom to 125%. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems www.screensteps.com-www.clarify-it.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Crowd Funding Enhancements
On February 10, 2014 at 17:24:35, Kevin Miller (ke...@runrev.com) wrote:
The only thing we could do would be to speed things up by
further expanding our dev team, which could bring delivery forward for
³pet² features. I guess we could crowd fund that.
So - here is an open question I don¹t know the answer to. Is there
appetite for this in the community?
Kind regards,
Kevin
I would happily join to a crowd funding to speed important things up.
But, a bold but, *pet features* and *essentials* should be defined very
carefully.
I believe, many of us will support another crowd-funding
which focuses on *essentials*, things which cannot be done in Livecode alone.
There are really, really important things which we couldn’t do by ourselves or
without the help of an external.
Unicode is one of those things, group size limits {int16 thing} and
non-blocking url commands are, too.
I would define them as following;
pet feature: a feature for which a workaround can be found.
essential: no workaround, engine must change or an external is needed.
On February 10, 2014 at 17:09:06, Andrew Kluthe (and...@ctech.me) wrote:
I'd sell a piece of my liver for url
commands that were non-blocking.
Andrew
Example to an essential feature.
Blocking url commands are deal-breaker and finding an acceptable work-around is
almost impossible.
They break many things including user responsiveness.
To quote from Crowley after modernizing the Hell {watching Supernatural,
anyone?}:
“Nobody likes to wait!”
On February 10, 2014 at 17:56:39, Andrew Kluthe (and...@ctech.me) wrote:
Any kind of timelines or updates on any of the stretch goals other than
theming/res
independence would be great. ... it is also the least
important to folks who aren't doing mac or mobile dev.
Example to a pet feature.
These are / should not be that much important even to a seasoned mac/mobile
developer, in my humble opinion.
Using a couple of png’s for theming
and 40 lines of pure Livecode script for resizing were
all I needed for 20+ finished projects {published business apps} in the last
two years.
Rotating an image without wiggling could be important to someone {me}
and having built-in commands for json parsing to someone else.
But these can be done at least to some degree via pure Livecode.
As I said, *pet features* and *essentials* should be defined very carefully.
We’ll support, I will support another crowd-funding which focuses on
*essentials*, things which cannot be done in Livecode alone.
Best,
~ Ender
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j...@unmla.com wrote: I'm interested in learning whether LiveCode is an appropriate tool for introducing elementary school children to the field of computer science. LiveCode has been eagerly adopted in the educational market. I can't find the link, but Scotland's schools throughout the country have adopted LiveCode as the preferred method to teach basic programming skills. On the RuvRev web site there are three write-ups of how LiveCode is being used in educational settings. While these aren't elementary schools, I think the same principles would apply to any age student: http://www.eastlothian.gov.uk/ http://www.gracemounthighschool.co.uk/ http://livecode.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/eleanor-white-paper-white-paper.pdf The main web page with all these links and more is at: http://livecode.com/showcase/ -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com http://www.gracemounthighschool.co.uk/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Crowd Funding Enhancements
The things I'm thinking of are generally not on the road map, which is how
this thing got started in the first place. Some of them are on a wishlist
that I gave to Kevin after our Pro meeting.
I also don't want to unnecessarily fork LC just to get what I want (e.g.
all items are created equal). What I want is to be able to make it worth
everyone's while to add, modify, etc. the project in ways that benefit
everyone...sooner, and limit the resistance to those improvements.
We already did this once with the mergSockets external, and it was good. I
want to do it some more, and I want to let Kevin et al be able to be as
involved or not as they want.
What I think we need to do is to develop some lists of priorities that
everyone has, and try to a) integrate with the roadmap, b) work on what the
improvements would cost for someone to complete and c) collect the funds
and d) git r dun
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Ender Nafi Elekcioglu
endern...@keehuna.com wrote:
On February 10, 2014 at 17:24:35, Kevin Miller (ke...@runrev.com) wrote:
The only thing we could do would be to speed things up by
further expanding our dev team, which could bring delivery forward for
³pet² features. I guess we could crowd fund that.
So - here is an open question I don¹t know the answer to. Is there
appetite for this in the community?
Kind regards,
Kevin
I would happily join to a crowd funding to speed important things up.
But, a bold but, *pet features* and *essentials* should be defined very
carefully.
I believe, many of us will support another crowd-funding
which focuses on *essentials*, things which cannot be done in Livecode
alone.
There are really, really important things which we couldn't do by
ourselves or without the help of an external.
Unicode is one of those things, group size limits {int16 thing} and
non-blocking url commands are, too.
I would define them as following;
pet feature: a feature for which a workaround can be found.
essential: no workaround, engine must change or an external is needed.
On February 10, 2014 at 17:09:06, Andrew Kluthe (and...@ctech.me) wrote:
I'd sell a piece of my liver for url
commands that were non-blocking.
Andrew
Example to an essential feature.
Blocking url commands are deal-breaker and finding an acceptable
work-around is almost impossible.
They break many things including user responsiveness.
To quote from Crowley after modernizing the Hell {watching Supernatural,
anyone?}:
Nobody likes to wait!
On February 10, 2014 at 17:56:39, Andrew Kluthe (and...@ctech.me) wrote:
Any kind of timelines or updates on any of the stretch goals other than
theming/res
independence would be great. ... it is also the least
important to folks who aren't doing mac or mobile dev.
Example to a pet feature.
These are / should not be that much important even to a seasoned
mac/mobile developer, in my humble opinion.
Using a couple of png's for theming
and 40 lines of pure Livecode script for resizing were
all I needed for 20+ finished projects {published business apps} in the
last two years.
Rotating an image without wiggling could be important to someone {me}
and having built-in commands for json parsing to someone else.
But these can be done at least to some degree via pure Livecode.
As I said, *pet features* and *essentials* should be defined very
carefully.
We'll support, I will support another crowd-funding which focuses on
*essentials*, things which cannot be done in Livecode alone.
Best,
~ Ender
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Re: repeating string
On Feb 8, 2014, at 10:41 PM, Geoff Canyon gcan...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 9:06 AM, Mike Kerner mikeker...@roadrunner.comwrote: put 30 a into goop, but that is a recipe for failure, and put 30 a's into goop is almost unreadable If we're devising syntax, I think some other languages use * as in: put 30 * a into goop This still runs into problems because of LC's typeless variables: put 5 * 15 -- puts 75 put 5 * 15 -- puts 1515151515 put 15 into x put 5 * 15 -- puts 75 put 15 into x put 5 * 15 -- still puts 75, nor should it change Perhaps of? put 5 of 15 -- puts 1515151515 Seems like the most LiveCode-like syntax would be something like: pad container with string at beginning|end|chunk description [for] N [times] So, pad myvar with space at beginning 4 times pad fld foo with 0 at end 10 times pad hello with xyz after char 3 for 2 times -- helxyzxyzlo Devin Devin Asay Office of Digital Humanities Brigham Young University ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: repeating string
On 2/10/14, 11:51 AM, Devin Asay wrote: Seems like the most LiveCode-like syntax would be something like: pad container with string at beginning|end|chunk description [for] N [times] So, pad myvar with space at beginning 4 times pad fld foo with 0 at end 10 times pad hello with xyz after char 3 for 2 times -- helxyzxyzlo Ooh. Nice! Like. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: repeating string
I like that, too On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 12:54 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote: On 2/10/14, 11:51 AM, Devin Asay wrote: Seems like the most LiveCode-like syntax would be something like: pad container with string at beginning|end|chunk description [for] N [times] So, pad myvar with space at beginning 4 times pad fld foo with 0 at end 10 times pad hello with xyz after char 3 for 2 times -- helxyzxyzlo Ooh. Nice! Like. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Crowd Funding Enhancements
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Ender Nafi Elekcioglu
endern...@keehuna.com wrote:
On February 10, 2014 at 17:56:39, Andrew Kluthe (and...@ctech.me) wrote:
Any kind of timelines or updates on any of the stretch goals other than
theming/res
independence would be great. ... it is also the least
important to folks who aren't doing mac or mobile dev.
Example to a pet feature.
These are / should not be that much important even to a seasoned
mac/mobile developer, in my humble opinion.
Using a couple of png's for theming
and 40 lines of pure Livecode script for resizing were
all I needed for 20+ finished projects {published business apps} in the
last two years.
Hi Ender,
It is important to keep in mind that what might be classified as a pet
feature for some is essential for others. I consider myself a fairly
experienced developer and consider resolution independence critical. On the
desktop you cannot make a LiveCode app look correct on retina displays.
Your text will always look fuzzy. If you happen to be playing with the
resolution independence branch of the LiveCode engine on GitHub (the
developer branch includes it now) you will notice a night and day
difference when loading your projects (when loading the project on a retina
laptop).
Windows has similar issues with resolution independence. Changes have to
made to the LiveCode engine itself so that we can have projects look and
behave properly. Based on the number of support emails I get from my
customers I see an upward trend in among my customer base who are using
high-resolution settings on Windows.
For me, lack of high resolution support affects sales of my product (users
with retina displays do not like non-retina compliant apps).
Just another perspective,
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Re: Crowd Funding Enhancements
On 10/02/14 23:34, Trevor DeVore wrote:
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Ender Nafi Elekcioglu
endern...@keehuna.com wrote:
On February 10, 2014 at 17:56:39, Andrew Kluthe (and...@ctech.me) wrote:
Any kind of timelines or updates on any of the stretch goals other than
theming/res
independence would be great. ... it is also the least
important to folks who aren't doing mac or mobile dev.
Example to a pet feature.
These are / should not be that much important even to a seasoned
mac/mobile developer, in my humble opinion.
Using a couple of png's for theming
and 40 lines of pure Livecode script for resizing were
all I needed for 20+ finished projects {published business apps} in the
last two years.
Hi Ender,
It is important to keep in mind that what might be classified as a pet
feature for some is essential for others. I consider myself a fairly
experienced developer and consider resolution independence critical. On the
desktop you cannot make a LiveCode app look correct on retina displays.
Your text will always look fuzzy. If you happen to be playing with the
resolution independence branch of the LiveCode engine on GitHub (the
developer branch includes it now) you will notice a night and day
difference when loading your projects (when loading the project on a retina
laptop).
Windows has similar issues with resolution independence. Changes have to
made to the LiveCode engine itself so that we can have projects look and
behave properly. Based on the number of support emails I get from my
customers I see an upward trend in among my customer base who are using
high-resolution settings on Windows.
For me, lack of high resolution support affects sales of my product (users
with retina displays do not like non-retina compliant apps).
Just another perspective,
Trevor makes an extremely valid point.
A crowd sourced project sourced by mant people all pulling in different
directions is jus
not going to work.
So; before anything like that a consensus of what should be on the list
has to be arrived at.
I have a particular sore-point about the wat Windows Vista, 7 and 8
imposes its own fonts in Unicode text fields.
Richmond.
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Message path question
Prowling around the IDE scripts, the revBackScript button of the revLibrary stack includes: dispatch revHookPostSaveStack to me . ... but there is no such handler in its script. My understanding of the message path is that since this is in a back script, the only other place for that message to go is to the engine. Is that right? I would like to do something in a handler for that message so just checking where I need to put it. Thanks, Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com Home of lcStackBrowser http://www.lcsql.com/lcstackbrowser.html and SQLiteAdmin http://www.lcsql.com/sqliteadmin.html ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Message path question
Peter Haworth wrote: Prowling around the IDE scripts, the revBackScript button of the revLibrary stack includes: dispatch revHookPostSaveStack to me . ... but there is no such handler in its script. My understanding of the message path is that since this is in a back script, the only other place for that message to go is to the engine. Is that right? All backscript and library handlers are available to all other backscripts and libraries. The only time their specific order comes into play is when dealing with handlers of the same name in two different scripts. In that case, libraries are checked first, and then backscripts, in the order in which they were inserted into the message path. Additionally, dispatch has an unusual characteristic that's not likely at play here, but worth knowing about: if a custom message sent with dispatch isn't handled, you won't get a handler not found error as you would with send. Instead, the local var it will simply contain unhandled. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/FourthWorldSys ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: new way closing a stack in IOS 7
Or, for location: keyUIBackgroundModes/key array stringlocation/string /array Gerry On 11 Feb 2014, at 10:49 am, Gerry Orkin gerry.or...@gmail.com wrote: BTW if you need the app to keep playing sound (or tracking location etc) you'll also need to add: keyUIBackgroundModes/key array stringaudio/string /array ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: repeating string
On 10/02/2014 17:51, Devin Asay wrote: Seems like the most LiveCode-like syntax would be something like: pad container with string at beginning|end|chunk description [for] N [times] So, pad myvar with space at beginning 4 times pad fld foo with 0 at end 10 times pad hello with xyz after char 3 for 2 times -- helxyzxyzlo While I like the general idea, I don't think that's the *most* LC-like syntax. I don't see any need to invent a new verb pad; why not simply something like put value [for N times] chunk description or put [N copies of] value chunk description Thus put hello into myVar put xyz for 2 times after char 3 of myVar-- helxyzxyzlo or perhaps put 2 copies of xyz after char 3 of myVar Or indeed put abc 4 copies ofdef into newVar to give a value of abcdef -- Alex. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Crowd Funding Enhancements
Kevin Miller wrote: Actually its the core refactor / Unicode that was the really tough bit. A long time with heads down and only internal dps so far. But in terms of actual throughput its been massive. The other goals aren’t of the same scope and as such aren’t as far away as it may seem. That's very encouraging to hear. QuickTime replacement and Cocoa have been key concerns for many of us. Very much looking forward to those. We’re deep into planning for the next phase at the moment. So I’ll write you guys a more extensive post and/or a newsletter article with an update on things within the next couple of weeks. That would be most welcome. While RunRev's external communications have been stellar in comparison to closed-source companies, as an open source project LiveCode could benefit significantly from regular updates from the team. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/FourthWorldSys ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
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Vaughn, I'd be interested in seeing where I could assist. It occurred to me to learn LiveCode a novice or better developer needs a better interface and to add code tracking in the distionary. I agree that added features for the dictionary would be valuable, I'd also like to see the ability to add multiple code examples to the dictionary to allow comparison and evaluation of code techniques. I would also have the app able to use a very good search feature across any data or fields in the database where keywords or phrases can be searched. This would call all elements for any dictionary element/s in a selected group to be reviewed. That sounds very helpful. I've seen other online references, for Adobe Flex, that allowed editing and (limited) execution of code samples in an online environment to allow customization and experimentation outside of the project development environment. Maybe that could be possible in On-Rev.com? Brian Duck The DuckWorks bd...@duckworks.biz Begin forwarded message: Message: 9 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 08:20:24 -0700 From: Vaughn Clement vclem...@gmail.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: Crowd Funding Enhancements Message-ID: CAP6oXhZxqohorLZfB94KFC52mhsHEC3vY-8kRsTyVEMh6=8...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Crowd Funding Enhancements
Hi Jan, I have on two occassions (pre-open source and post-open source) downloaded and tried Quartam Reports. But both times it fell down for me in trying to handle Japanese/UTF8. Can't recall if it was in presenting the data or in the editor itself (or, of course, could have been operator error!) but I couldn't make it do what I needed... If the LC of the future makes good on its, 'it just works' goal for UTF8, and Quartam Reports followed suite, I would become a happy customer, no doubt. Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan On 2/11/14 1:29 AM, Jan Schenkel wrote: Hi all, With the right funding, I would consider making Quartam Reports open-source under a dual license. This would obviate the need for a whole new project that has to go through all the same pains I did. Admittedly, things have been quiet on the news front, but I have been preparing two major updates. One brings a series of enhancements to the current version, and the other constitutes a complete rewrite. The point of the rewrite is to bring the report runtime up-to-date with the latest LiveCode features. And to tame the beast that is the report editor which has proven harder to maintain than planned. Best regards, Jan Schenkel. = Quartam Reports PDF Library for LiveCode www.quartam.com = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) On Mon, 2/10/14, Tim Selander selan...@tkf.att.ne.jp wrote: Subject: Re: Crowd Funding Enhancements To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Date: Monday, February 10, 2014, 7:14 AM I'm originally from Chicago... so in the tradition of that great city, I'm stuffing the virtual ballot box with votes for this one!! Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan On 2/11/14 12:02 AM, Mike Kerner wrote: * A real report editor/designer ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Message path question
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.comwrote: All backscript and library handlers are available to all other backscripts and libraries. Thanks Richard. Just to be sure I understand this correctly, I already have a library stack in place for this application so if I put a revHookPostSaveStack handler into it, it will be found when the rev backscript dispatches that message? FYI, the dispatch command in question has to me in it. I hope that's the case since I'd rather not start adding scripts to the IDE stacks. Also, if I pass the message in my handler, will it be seen by other loaded libraries with a handler for it? Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com Home of lcStackBrowser http://www.lcsql.com/lcstackbrowser.html and SQLiteAdmin http://www.lcsql.com/sqliteadmin.html ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Crowd Funding Enhancements
monte, Yes, that's in line with what I was thinking. I was LESS thinking about having a generic fund that folks would vote funds out of and more spec'ing out improvements, and then, etc., as you are suggesting. As I've been talking with other folks about this, and even a little bit with Edinburgh, I'm trying to make this something that isn't RR's responsibility, but rather something that we drive, and they can be a part of as much as they like (by bidding on things). Part of the idea was to formalize this process so that it's organized, and everyone knows where to go when then want to propose having something happen. That way, was also will hopefully have more discussion before the bid spec goes out, and less after we're collecting the funds. On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 8:30 PM, Tim Selander selan...@tkf.att.ne.jpwrote: Hi Jan, I have on two occassions (pre-open source and post-open source) downloaded and tried Quartam Reports. But both times it fell down for me in trying to handle Japanese/UTF8. Can't recall if it was in presenting the data or in the editor itself (or, of course, could have been operator error!) but I couldn't make it do what I needed... If the LC of the future makes good on its, 'it just works' goal for UTF8, and Quartam Reports followed suite, I would become a happy customer, no doubt. Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan On 2/11/14 1:29 AM, Jan Schenkel wrote: Hi all, With the right funding, I would consider making Quartam Reports open-source under a dual license. This would obviate the need for a whole new project that has to go through all the same pains I did. Admittedly, things have been quiet on the news front, but I have been preparing two major updates. One brings a series of enhancements to the current version, and the other constitutes a complete rewrite. The point of the rewrite is to bring the report runtime up-to-date with the latest LiveCode features. And to tame the beast that is the report editor which has proven harder to maintain than planned. Best regards, Jan Schenkel. = Quartam Reports PDF Library for LiveCode www.quartam.com = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) On Mon, 2/10/14, Tim Selander selan...@tkf.att.ne.jp wrote: Subject: Re: Crowd Funding Enhancements To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Date: Monday, February 10, 2014, 7:14 AM I'm originally from Chicago... so in the tradition of that great city, I'm stuffing the virtual ballot box with votes for this one!! Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan On 2/11/14 12:02 AM, Mike Kerner wrote: * A real report editor/designer ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Message path question
Peter Haworth wrote: On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: All backscript and library handlers are available to all other backscripts and libraries. Thanks Richard. Just to be sure I understand this correctly, I already have a library stack in place for this application so if I put a revHookPostSaveStack handler into it, it will be found when the rev backscript dispatches that message? It should. What happens when you try it? Also, if I pass the message in my handler, will it be seen by other loaded libraries with a handler for it? It should. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/FourthWorldSys ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Crowd Funding Enhancements
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.comwrote: Kevin Miller wrote: Actually its the core refactor / Unicode that was the really tough bit. A long time with heads down and only internal dps so far. But in terms of actual throughput its been massive. The other goals aren't of the same scope and as such aren't as far away as it may seem. That's very encouraging to hear. QuickTime replacement and Cocoa have been key concerns for many of us. Very much looking forward to those. Richard (and others), I don't know if you have Xcode set up to compile LiveCode or not, but if you do then you may enjoy following along with the Cocoa project: https://github.com/runrevmark/livecode/tree/feature-cocoa I've been building and testing my app as Mark releases updates the cocoa branch (which is quite regularly). The de-quicktimification has already begun as well. You can read the progress the is being made in the commit notes: https://github.com/runrevmark/livecode/commits/feature-cocoa It is fun to see what the team is working on and follow along with features you are interested in. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems www.screensteps.com-www.clarify-it.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Crowd Funding Enhancements
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Trevor DeVore li...@mangomultimedia.comwrote: It is fun to see what the team is working on and follow along with features you are interested in. A-V - player progress! Yes! *--* *Stephen Barncard - San Francisco Ca. USA - Deeds Not Words* ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Crowd Funding Enhancements
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 12:19 AM, Kevin Miller ke...@runrev.com wrote: We're deep into planning for the next phase at the moment. So I'll write you guys a more extensive post and/or a newsletter article with an update on things within the next couple of weeks. I always get a kick out of the fact that the CEO crops up on this List every now and then. Anyone who's read my previous posts knows I'm into data, lots and lots of data. I like to find connections between data, display data in new ways, and help my colleagues visualise data in ways they haven't thought of. I like info-graphics. If a pictures says a thousand words, a good info-graphic can answer 10 questions, half of which you didn't think of until you saw the data. This is by no means the best I've ever seen, but it's recent (at the bottom of the page): http://www.apple.com/30-years/your-first-mac/#tell-us It saddens me to think that Macs use to be a tool, they did work; but no longer it seems. Now, I don't have to complain on User Forums that OS X is morphing into iOS, I see why. I know I don't have to buy my kids MacBooksanymore, an iPad will do. It's too late to start now, but I'm sure it would make for an interesting info-graphic, one that continually recorded and then displayed the man hours and Kickstarter £ spent on the various 'areas' that the Runrev team is focusing on as they move LC forward. I'm sure refactor and unicode would display as huge blobs. Little, but growing blobs for the various branches that parallel, then disappear when they are incorporated, or not. I could imagine info-graphics that told me not only how many man hours and £ currently spent, but a % estimate of job complete. Names of those involved as well, as I'm sure it would be a pleasant surprise to see not just the Runrev team in those blobs, but the names of the many gurus (like Trevor) who are at the heart of this LC community. If we all saw the data I'm sure we'd have no questions or complaints; but then again, we wouldn't have the pleasure of reading Kevin's posts. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: SSL + static IP with an on-rev account
This also works: http://marksmith.on-rev.com/revstuff/files/ Phil Davis On 2/2/14, 2:42 PM, PystCat wrote: The link worked. On Feb 2, 2014, at 4:44 PM, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: crap. Bad link. *--* *Stephen Barncard - San Francisco Ca. USA - Deeds Not Words* On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 1:42 PM, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 12:45 PM, PystCat pyst...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone used Amazon's cloud storage with LiveCode...? I would be interested in hearing any success(?) or fail(?) stories... the 'other' and 'late' Mark Smith wrote a library just for that purpose a few years ago. One of the list members is hosting it somewhere…. here you go.. http://www.runrevplanet.com/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=148:webpage-of-the-month-mark-smiths-livecode-librariescatid=56:website-of-the-monthItemid=118 *--* *Stephen Barncard - San Francisco Ca. USA - Deeds Not Words* ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Phil Davis ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
