Re: Livecode Community Site

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

Tom Glod wrote:

> I feel like nothing out there, LC related, feels like its maintained
> of kept up to date.

True dat, though there are a few.

LiveCode Journal has been fallow too long for a couple reasons: it's a 
lot of work to keep fresh content flowing, and ultimately I found that 
content needs management and much more, so I've been making tools for 
that. My hope is that the tools will allow me to kick out content more 
prolifically, but the tools themselves require 	quite a bit of time 
before that happens.


> Livecode themselves don't really have much of a social presence.

They have no content strategy that's evident.  That's too bad. it works. 
 Content strategy is pretty much how companies grow in the 21st century.



> So for new developers, it all just seems 'stale'.
>
> A modern, maintained site with up to date content would very easily
> become one of the top results for those searching for livecode. (I
> could be wrong)

Yes, to fresh content - but need it be in one domain?

Is the goal to create a new funnel that goes through all the steps to 
bring people into a new place...


- or -

...could the content be delivered to where people already are?


An article at LinkedIn can be promoted in groups and forums, but being 
at LinkedIn will be seen by more people more quickly than you could 
expect through organic search engine traffic.


Even better, search engine traffic only applies when the searcher 
happens to be searching for phrases that a given domain ranks high for.


But in existing sharing networks like LinkedIn, people can discover 
things they might never have thought to search for.


The mother ship itself is also a good venue:

LC Ltd loves guest content in their blog, and additions to the Lessons 
and docs.  The nice thing about making contributions with the core 
project is they keep the highest-possible-ranking site looking fresh, 
while also reducing work for the author.


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Re: Livecode Community Site

[Tom Glod via use-livecode]

Hi Alex, thank you for your detailed reply. I appreciate it.

I think you are right . I too don't have a lot of interest going down
this road if no one wants it.

I feel like nothing out there, LC related, feels like its maintained of
kept up to date.

Livecode themselves don't really have much of a social presence.

So for new developers, it all just seems 'stale'.

A modern, maintained site with up to date content would very easily become
one of the top results for those searching for livecode. (I could be wrong)

I just think of it as an opportunity that would also help to freshen things
up.

Thanks for pointing out the play on words. the answer.its BOTH. :D

I'm going to post an update on this in a few days.






On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 8:37 PM Alex Tweedly via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> On 07/07/2020 18:46, Tom Glod via use-livecode wrote:
>
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> > For years I have owned the domain "lovelivecode.com". At one point I
> lost
> > it, but decided to buy it again a few months ago.
> >
> > ...
> >
> > Recently,I am seeing the glaring need in the community (also touched on
> by
> > recent threads):
> Yes, I agree (some).
> > I don't have a ton of time to spend on it, but thanks to modern tools, I
> > don't need lots of time.
> >
> >
> > Please give me a quick reply
> > 1. If this interests you.
> > 2. And If you would like to be involved with it
>
> 1. Yes, I'm interested.
>
> 2. Yes, I'd ike to be involved.
>
> 3. BUT I am wary :-)
>
> I fully agree that we are missing some of those things, and that a
> community effort could maybe help fill some of them. But we also already
> suffer from duplication and fragmentation (and too many possible places
> to have to go look).
>
> So I think that unless we are confident that there is enough interest,
> commitment and agreement on goals, we would be better off not even
> starting . Sorry if that sounds negative - but the last thing we need to
> do is to use up the rather scarce resource we have (i.e. our own time)
> on a likely-to-fail effort.
>
> So I'm going to pick over your stated goals, and comment on them. Partly
> think of this as an attempt to avoid "boiling the ocean" - we'd be
> better getting success on 2 or 3 goals than only a little bit of
> progress on 10 of them.
>
> > Here are my goals:
> >
> > For LoveLivecode.com to be a "modern" central hub for:
>
> Not sure what 'modern' is (or whether I like it :-)  And central could
> mean 'one place for everything' which I think is not practical.
>
> The goals, rearranged into a different order to suit me:
>
> >
> > LC News
> > Member Post Feed
> > Communication between members (forums / PMs)
> Here I think we already have adequate choices (and fragmentation). I
> would love to find a way to unify the forums and the use-list - but if
> it was going to be easy, it would have happened by now. And a separate
> (non-LCLtd) solution is just going to be another fragment.
> > (Up-to-date) Educational resources
> Yeah, could be possible.
> > Code snippets
> > Sample Files
> Yes, definitely. I think there is a particular gap in this area
> (libraries) but I'll keep that for a possible later detailed discussion.
> > Events / Online & Live
> > Community Polls (to help livecode inc to understand us better)
> Yes - I'm sure there is interest for this, even if we are all not sure
> what we want, we really do want something.
> > Developer Directory (And maybe project submission for developer bids??)
> > and Ad space for anyone whose target market is LC Developers.
> >
> Yes, why not.
>
> I hope you (we) can get something going, even if I'm not sure yet what I
> most want it to be.
>
> Alex.
>
> P.S. is it "love livecode" or "love. live. code." ?
>
>
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Re: Livecode Community Site

[Alex Tweedly via use-livecode]

On 07/07/2020 18:46, Tom Glod via use-livecode wrote:


Hi Folks,

For years I have owned the domain "lovelivecode.com". At one point I lost
it, but decided to buy it again a few months ago.

...

Recently,I am seeing the glaring need in the community (also touched on by
recent threads):

Yes, I agree (some).

I don't have a ton of time to spend on it, but thanks to modern tools, I
don't need lots of time.


Please give me a quick reply
1. If this interests you.
2. And If you would like to be involved with it


1. Yes, I'm interested.

2. Yes, I'd ike to be involved.

3. BUT I am wary :-)

I fully agree that we are missing some of those things, and that a 
community effort could maybe help fill some of them. But we also already 
suffer from duplication and fragmentation (and too many possible places 
to have to go look).


So I think that unless we are confident that there is enough interest, 
commitment and agreement on goals, we would be better off not even 
starting . Sorry if that sounds negative - but the last thing we need to 
do is to use up the rather scarce resource we have (i.e. our own time) 
on a likely-to-fail effort.


So I'm going to pick over your stated goals, and comment on them. Partly 
think of this as an attempt to avoid "boiling the ocean" - we'd be 
better getting success on 2 or 3 goals than only a little bit of 
progress on 10 of them.



Here are my goals:

For LoveLivecode.com to be a "modern" central hub for:


Not sure what 'modern' is (or whether I like it :-)  And central could 
mean 'one place for everything' which I think is not practical.


The goals, rearranged into a different order to suit me:



LC News
Member Post Feed
Communication between members (forums / PMs)
Here I think we already have adequate choices (and fragmentation). I 
would love to find a way to unify the forums and the use-list - but if 
it was going to be easy, it would have happened by now. And a separate 
(non-LCLtd) solution is just going to be another fragment.

(Up-to-date) Educational resources

Yeah, could be possible.

Code snippets
Sample Files
Yes, definitely. I think there is a particular gap in this area 
(libraries) but I'll keep that for a possible later detailed discussion.

Events / Online & Live
Community Polls (to help livecode inc to understand us better)
Yes - I'm sure there is interest for this, even if we are all not sure 
what we want, we really do want something.

Developer Directory (And maybe project submission for developer bids??)
and Ad space for anyone whose target market is LC Developers.


Yes, why not.

I hope you (we) can get something going, even if I'm not sure yet what I 
most want it to be.


Alex.

P.S. is it "love livecode" or "love. live. code." ?



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Downloading LiveCode Slow...

[Rick Harrison via use-livecode]

I was wondering if anyone has tried to
download any version of LiveCode from
the website recently.  I just tried today
and it is glacially slow.

I’m also running into a problem where
version 9.5.1 which used to work fine
is now complaining that the license
isn’t any good anymore.  I tried the
manual fix and even that didn’t work.
My licenses are all up to date too.

Anyone else having similar problems?

Let me know.

Thanks,

Rick
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LCGitHubLib deprecation

[Pi Digital via use-livecode]

Hey all. 

Just received notification from github that the LCGitHubLib app will no longer 
be available on github from October. I’m sure the relevant coders have also 
been notified but will this have impact on our own repository forks. We have 
till October so there’s no rush. I’m just starting the conversation for an 
early heads up. 

All the best

Sean Cole
Pi Digital
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Re: [off-topic-ish] do you prefer LC-related content as books or video courses?

[Tore Nilsen via use-livecode]

Hi Andre!

As others have pointed out, whether to go for a text based or a video based 
course, very much depends on your target audience. I like Richards proposal of 
using LiveCode as the framework for a course. This way you can in fact utilize 
the strengths of both formats. You can present most of the course as text, and 
with a good search function and a good index, it can in many ways work better 
than a traditional printed text.

The real benefit is that you can also add video wherever this will provide an 
added value. If the course are a beginners course, video can work well when you 
demonstrate how to use the IDE and how to build a UI for an application. 
Remember that shorter videos are better. Also, video works best for 
demonstration of concrete actions. You can further enhance the effect of being 
able to use both text and video by adding each step of the video as text as 
well.

If you are to show script as video, remember to give the viewer plenty of time 
to study each line of code. I find that when I show my students something on 
the whiteboard, they very often think that I am to quick, and that I move along 
to fast. It is also advisable to keep the screen as clutter free as possible, 
only show code that is part of the command/function you are writing at the 
moment. If the students get lost during the presentation, it is very hard for 
them to get back on the right track (or line as it were) if they have to 
distinguish between different parts of your code.These are hard learned facts 
after teaching high school students how to use LiveCode in computer science 
classes for the last seven years. 

Just as important as the format you choose to deliver your course are the 
content of your course. From my experience as a teacher I would suggest that 
you distinguish basic skills from intermediate and advanced skills. I have run 
into trouble trying to rush things in my classes from time to time.

Best wishes and best of luck.
Tore 
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Re: [off-topic-ish] do you prefer LC-related content as books or video courses?

[Alex Tweedly via use-livecode]

My immediate response is  anything but video !!

I hate video - can't find things, no indexing, can't fast forward 
effectively over the bits I know or more-or-less know, need audio which 
doesn't always fit my surroundings, 


But that doesn't mean video is without its advantages - sometimes it 
gets details across in a way that written methods fail with. Videos 
which are *short*, with really good external index/content description 
might be just the thing.


As for "book" - does that mean paper, ePub, PDF, or something better.  I 
would love to see a stack-based solution that gave quick, searchable, 
hyper-linked access to content that was also accessed in other ways. For 
example, I buy an e-book giving me a PDF plus a stack which allows me 
good access to the content (including updates, errata, new additions).


And I think you should consider a model of initial purchase with (cheap) 
on-going subscription, that would allow you an on-going revenue stream 
to keep the enhanced-book up-to-date and relevant.


And I think you could (depending on your content area) perhaps sell 
content which is sample apps. I would happily pay for a *realistic* iOS 
app - don't much care what it does, so long as it contains current 
techniques for building a real app - including using mobile widgets, 
etc. and comes with a full set of build instructions - i.e. it can't be 
a "Hello World" app, it must have reasonable set of features. Then I 
could take the app, follow the instructions - and hopefully get a 
successful build with fewer headaches. And that would be the ideal case 
for initial purchase + subscription because the instructions would 
evolve over time.


And if wanted to then build my own app, I would most likely do it as an 
offshoot from that working model. (Don't know how you work out licensing 
for that :-)


I suspect you could do similar for Android, a desktop + web combo,  
and find people who would get good value from buying that to give them a 
headstart on their own development. You'd need to find a balance of 
enough content to be a *real* app without soaking up too much 
development time.


Alex.


On 07/07/2020 17:27, Andre Garzia via use-livecode wrote:

Hey Folks,

I have been working on some new LC content to sell. I want to transition my
career into content production and I think there is an unserved demand for
quality content for our beloved language.

I'm just not exactly sure if you prefer to consume content in book format
or video format. My reason to ask is because I love books but apparently
people enjoy video courses more. Some friends of mine report more revenues
from video courses than books, but doing video is harder and takes longer,
so before deciding on what medium to go for I decided to ask you all about
it.

My outline is done and the research into the topics I want to cover is
almost complete. I'll soon reach the point in my production pipeline where
I need to decide which way should the content go. What do you prefer?

Best
Andre



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Re: [off-topic-ish] do you prefer LC-related content as books or video courses?

[David Wood via use-livecode]

Books for me - either phyical or eBook. Although video might have a support 
role.

I’ve learned several programming languages over the years and the practical 
value of having a well indexed book open beside the computer so I can go back 
and forth leaving the development environment open on my computer makes sense 
to me. Whether that book is physical or eBook: I prefer physical for 
practicality but prefer eBook (generally) for lower cost. If eBook, then it 
must have a good table of contents AND index.

Interesting issue

Dave


> On 8/07/2020, at 4:27 AM, Andre Garzia via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hey Folks,
> 
> I have been working on some new LC content to sell. I want to transition my
> career into content production and I think there is an unserved demand for
> quality content for our beloved language.
> 
> I'm just not exactly sure if you prefer to consume content in book format
> or video format. My reason to ask is because I love books but apparently
> people enjoy video courses more. Some friends of mine report more revenues
> from video courses than books, but doing video is harder and takes longer,
> so before deciding on what medium to go for I decided to ask you all about
> it.
> 
> My outline is done and the research into the topics I want to cover is
> almost complete. I'll soon reach the point in my production pipeline where
> I need to decide which way should the content go. What do you prefer?
> 
> Best
> Andre
> 
> -- 
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Re: [off-topic-ish] do you prefer LC-related content as books or video courses?

[Pi Digital via use-livecode]

Hi

A proper up to date guide for LiveCode is what has been needed for years. 
Digital or paper. I used to love paper manuals and guides but more so get PDFs 
these days. 

Sean Cole
Pi Digital
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RE: [off-topic-ish] do you prefer LC-related content as books or video courses?

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

Andre, given the average age of the users here, I'd be curious to know what 
the responses are if you asked the same question on another forum for any 
popular programming language.


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On July 7, 2020 1:17:49 PM Ralph DiMola via use-livecode 
 wrote:



I Agree, Books. For the most part the only videos I watch are music related.
Other than that I read much faster.
I watch a video only after the narrative needs additional details
(car/electronics/instrument... repairs).

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net


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Of J. Landman Gay via use-livecode

Books. I read much faster than video playback, and a book allows me to skip
around easily and look up topics of interest. I rarely have time to sit
through a whole video unless it's very short. Books hold my interest better.



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RE: [off-topic-ish] do you prefer LC-related content as books or video courses?

[Ralph DiMola via use-livecode]

I Agree, Books. For the most part the only videos I watch are music related.
Other than that I read much faster.
I watch a video only after the narrative needs additional details
(car/electronics/instrument... repairs).

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net


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Of J. Landman Gay via use-livecode

Books. I read much faster than video playback, and a book allows me to skip
around easily and look up topics of interest. I rarely have time to sit
through a whole video unless it's very short. Books hold my interest better.



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Livecode Community Site

[Tom Glod via use-livecode]

Hi Folks,

For years I have owned the domain "lovelivecode.com". At one point I lost
it, but decided to buy it again a few months ago.

I called it that because I often found myself saying "I love livecode"
while working inside of it, due to its massive strong points in desktop app
development.

Recently,I am seeing the glaring need in the community (also touched on by
recent threads):

I don't have a ton of time to spend on it, but thanks to modern tools, I
don't need lots of time.

Here are my goals:

For LoveLivecode.com to be a "modern" central hub for:

LC News
Member Post Feed
(Up-to-date) Educational resources
Code snippets
Sample Files
Events / Online & Live
Community Polls (to help livecode inc to understand us better)
Communication between members (forums / PMs)
Developer Directory (And maybe project submission for developer bids??)
and Ad space for anyone whose target market is LC Developers.

Please give me a quick reply
1. If this interests you.
2. And If you would like to be involved with it

Also, please forward to anyone you feel may be interested.

Thank you.

Tom
tom at @ makeshyft.com
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Re: WebSites made using Livecode.

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

Andre Garzia  wrote:

> In my own personal and subjective experience, LiveCode shines when you
> are building desktop applications, or combining desktop applications
> with server-side solutions. With LiveCode you can have a webapp doing
> server-side LC server and an HTML5 front-end, while still having a
> full desktop application for handling all the administration stuff.
> Instead of spending a ton of time to craft a webadmin panel, or a
> clunky CMS, you can offer your client the full power of an offline-
> first desktop application to manage the webapp you're building. That
> is a powerful proposition and one that I wish would surface more in LC
> marketing and in the stories on this list.

^ BINGO

It's been a great model here.

One of my longest-running projects is a content-driven medical decision 
support system, where the authoring, review, and publishing process is 
done in an LC standalone, generating web-ready static HTML for lean, 
scalable deployment.


And now that we have some nice WebDAV libraries, I'm using that same 
model for my own content management, with Nextcloud as a collaborative 
document store managed through a dedicated desktop standalone made in LC.


Along the way I'm seeing opportunities to use APIs from Nextcloud apps 
and other cloud services to build out standalones providing 
highly-integrated workflows across disparate services, tailored for the 
specific needs of just about any organization with all the ease that 
developing GUIs in LiveCode can provide.


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Re: [off-topic-ish] do you prefer LC-related content as books or video courses?

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

Books. I read much faster than video playback, and a book allows me to skip 
around easily and look up topics of interest. I rarely have time to sit 
through a whole video unless it's very short. Books hold my interest better.


I think younger people are used to receiving information differently. But 
when I search Google for information I always skip the YouTube videos and 
go straight to the printed articles.


Also, I don't buy printed books any longer, all my reading material is 
digital. I typically carry dozens of books on my tablet. But I don't care 
for PDFs, epub is preferred and provides a better book-like experience.


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On July 7, 2020 11:29:38 AM Andre Garzia via use-livecode 
 wrote:



Hey Folks,

I have been working on some new LC content to sell. I want to transition my
career into content production and I think there is an unserved demand for
quality content for our beloved language.

I'm just not exactly sure if you prefer to consume content in book format
or video format. My reason to ask is because I love books but apparently
people enjoy video courses more. Some friends of mine report more revenues
from video courses than books, but doing video is harder and takes longer,
so before deciding on what medium to go for I decided to ask you all about
it.

My outline is done and the research into the topics I want to cover is
almost complete. I'll soon reach the point in my production pipeline where
I need to decide which way should the content go. What do you prefer?

Best
Andre

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Re: [off-topic-ish] do you prefer LC-related content as books or video courses?

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

Andre Garzia wrote:

> I'm just not exactly sure if you prefer to consume content in book
> format or video format.

I've been pondering this myself with some content I've been putting 
together for the LC community, an EDU-leaning beginner's guide and one 
on networking.


Given the power and flexibility of LC, and the many learning benefits of 
direct engagement with interactive media, I'm currently structuring them 
to as courseware to be delivered as stack files.


No more copy-and-paste of code examples, animation is possible where 
relevant, examples are living, breathing software...


...all delivered in a great platform well suited for this sort of thing: 
LiveCode.


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Re: [off-topic-ish] do you prefer LC-related content as books or video courses?

[Prothero@earthlearning via use-livecode]

Andre,
I forgot my main learning interest book.
Livecode for Web designers.

Bill

William Prothero
http://es.earthednet.org

> On Jul 7, 2020, at 9:28 AM, Andre Garzia via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hey Folks,
> 
> I have been working on some new LC content to sell. I want to transition my
> career into content production and I think there is an unserved demand for
> quality content for our beloved language.
> 
> I'm just not exactly sure if you prefer to consume content in book format
> or video format. My reason to ask is because I love books but apparently
> people enjoy video courses more. Some friends of mine report more revenues
> from video courses than books, but doing video is harder and takes longer,
> so before deciding on what medium to go for I decided to ask you all about
> it.
> 
> My outline is done and the research into the topics I want to cover is
> almost complete. I'll soon reach the point in my production pipeline where
> I need to decide which way should the content go. What do you prefer?
> 
> Best
> Andre
> 
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RE: [off-topic-ish] do you prefer LC-related content as books or video courses?

[Erik Beugelaar via use-livecode]

Hi Andre,

Book. Always.
And paperback I prefer instead of an e-book version.
I have noticed that my concentration is better by reading a real book.

Kind regards and good luck!
Erik

-Original Message-
From: use-livecode  On Behalf Of
Andre Garzia via use-livecode
Sent: dinsdag 7 juli 2020 18:27
To: How to use LiveCode 
Cc: Andre Garzia 
Subject: [off-topic-ish] do you prefer LC-related content as books or video
courses?

Hey Folks,

I have been working on some new LC content to sell. I want to transition my
career into content production and I think there is an unserved demand for
quality content for our beloved language.

I'm just not exactly sure if you prefer to consume content in book format or
video format. My reason to ask is because I love books but apparently people
enjoy video courses more. Some friends of mine report more revenues from
video courses than books, but doing video is harder and takes longer, so
before deciding on what medium to go for I decided to ask you all about it.

My outline is done and the research into the topics I want to cover is
almost complete. I'll soon reach the point in my production pipeline where I
need to decide which way should the content go. What do you prefer?

Best
Andre

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Re: [off-topic-ish] do you prefer LC-related content as books or video courses?

[Prothero@earthlearning via use-livecode]

Andre,
What I like about books is that I can go back to them easily and find Gems, if 
there is a good index. Videos work for me, if they are short. It also depends 
on your target audience. If you are going for experienced Livecode programmers, 
I suspect a highly indexed online “Book” that is searchable and contains tricks 
and gotcha workarounds would work. If you are wanting to target new users, I 
suspect an intro video designed to show how cool Livecode is, with demos of 
apps built with LC, then pointers to your online books might work. But then, 
I’m of the older generation, so.

What might also be an idea is to create:
Livecode for beginners
Livecode for teachers
Livecode for students
Livecode for kids

Etc.

If you go with the book route, it would be pretty easy to make it into an 
indexable online text document.

Good luck,
Bill

William Prothero
http://es.earthednet.org

> On Jul 7, 2020, at 9:28 AM, Andre Garzia via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hey Folks,
> 
> I have been working on some new LC content to sell. I want to transition my
> career into content production and I think there is an unserved demand for
> quality content for our beloved language.
> 
> I'm just not exactly sure if you prefer to consume content in book format
> or video format. My reason to ask is because I love books but apparently
> people enjoy video courses more. Some friends of mine report more revenues
> from video courses than books, but doing video is harder and takes longer,
> so before deciding on what medium to go for I decided to ask you all about
> it.
> 
> My outline is done and the research into the topics I want to cover is
> almost complete. I'll soon reach the point in my production pipeline where
> I need to decide which way should the content go. What do you prefer?
> 
> Best
> Andre
> 
> -- 
> http://www.andregarzia.com
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[off-topic-ish] do you prefer LC-related content as books or video courses?

[Andre Garzia via use-livecode]

Hey Folks,

I have been working on some new LC content to sell. I want to transition my
career into content production and I think there is an unserved demand for
quality content for our beloved language.

I'm just not exactly sure if you prefer to consume content in book format
or video format. My reason to ask is because I love books but apparently
people enjoy video courses more. Some friends of mine report more revenues
from video courses than books, but doing video is harder and takes longer,
so before deciding on what medium to go for I decided to ask you all about
it.

My outline is done and the research into the topics I want to cover is
almost complete. I'll soon reach the point in my production pipeline where
I need to decide which way should the content go. What do you prefer?

Best
Andre

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Re: Message watcher and selectionChanged

[Mark Wieder via use-livecode]

On 7/6/20 3:39 PM, Mark Talluto via use-livecode wrote:


You know you have arrived when there are forks of your works in the wild.


Trust the forks, Luke...

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Re: WebSites made using Livecode.

[Andrew at MidWest Coast Media via use-livecode]

> In my own personal and subjective experience, LiveCode shines when you are
> building desktop applications, or combining desktop applications with
> server-side solutions. 
> With LC you can ship a whole suite of desktop and mobile apps that act as
> companions to the business your client is doing while still delivering a
> webapp as the user facing part of your contract.

This is a truth bomb. 

LiveCode server solution:
At the beginning of the pandemic, I used LiveCode server to setup a beer 
delivery system for my cousin’s brewery. Users put in their address, I use a 
Google Maps API to check driving distance (to make sure they are close enough 
and charge the appropriate delivery fee), once location is verified I use an 
Untappd API to query their tap list and filter out drafts (because this for 
to-go only), then let the consumer choose the quantity and place their order. 
NO payments are going through this system, they already had a 3rd party vendor 
they used for that. 

https://www.midwestcoastmedia.com/beta_ltd/delivery.html 
 


LiveCode solution:
While it may not fully fit the spectrum of your question, I’m working on a 
website right now powered by LiveCode. I have a custom backend interface for my 
client to make changes in (PC app). They upload data to a LiveCloud account 
(not an official Mothership tool, but a great database resource built on/for 
Livecode). That database data is then used to piece together a website. I found 
an HTML5 template from Envato Marketplace and licensed it for ~$20USD, modified 
the template site Dreamweaver to match my client’s branding, then chopped it up 
into little chunks that get collated together. LiveCode server is only really 
triggered when using one of the forms; the page is .html but the form action 
POSTs to  .lc which fires off an email after checking for SPAM.

This same data, and the desktop backed that powers it, supplies all the content 
for a companion mobile app (iOS and Android) that I am also building in 
LiveCode. Some mobile specific options are taken advantage of here like 
Local/Push Notifications.

Project hasn’t officially launched yet, but you can take a sneak peek @ 
https://www.whitestownparks.org/ 

—Andrew Bell
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