Re: Community edition
It works on the older M1 macs, as long as you don't upgrade to OS14 -- I'm keeping my M1 Macbook air for as long as I can! Tim Selander On 2024/07/27 8:48, Neville Smythe via use-livecode wrote: On 26 Jul 2024, at 8:01 pm, Heriberto wrote: I am currently using the "Community" version, but it does not work on Apple Silicon devices. That’s a disappointment, I was thinking it might be my refuge for my Community work. Do standalones created with the Community Edition not work on Apple Silicon? Neville Smythe ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Livecode Future
Yes, this is quite important to me as well. Thanks, Tim Selander On 2024/07/24 19:14, Tweedly via use-livecode wrote: Can you say anything about the future of LiveCode Server ? Thanks, Alex Sent from my iPad On 24 Jul 2024, at 10:03, Kevin Miller via use-livecode wrote: I'm sorry to hear this. You'll still gain access to anything that remains to be delivered from crowd funding. I do want to dig into the economics of this a little more though. At a quantity of 180 users, PowerApps costs roughly 33% more per seat than we do! LiveCode, even *without* the (up to 10x) development speed increase Create is bringing, is so much more productive than PowerApps (you told us this yourself for your own use case). So its 33% cheaper, and massively faster... Sounds reasonable to me? Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ LiveCode: Build Amazing Things On 24/07/2024, 09:17, "use-livecode on behalf of Col Kelly via use-livecode" mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com> on behalf of use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote: Totally agree and find myself in the same position with 180+/- internal workers, we only use LC for rapid prototyping although we do have some utilities that were built with LC. I guess I’m going to be forced down the PowerApps route. Slightly annoyed that i’ve subscribed and been part of all the crowdfunded projects that never materialised or are still in dev. Col. Sent from my iPhone. On 24 Jul 2024, at 01:01, Heriberto Torrado via use-livecode mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote: Hi Tom, It appears that under this licensing model, developers creating applications for internal company use—such as for a workforce of 100 employees—would still need to pay $15,520 even with the 30% discount applied. I hope I've misunderstood, but upon receiving the email about Livecode Create, I considered purchasing a license to permanently move away from the outdated "Community" version (we have a lot of silicon Macs). However, if I have to explain to my boss that each internal user of the Livecode-built app would cost $155.2, she would likely suggest investing that money in a Flutter course, Lazarus IDE or to develop a web site. Hery On 7/23/24 18:32, Tom Glod via use-livecode wrote: Hello All, I'll start. After reviewing Livecode's new direction and offer. I feel very positive about this change. Maybe in the future I will feel differently, but currently, as a solo dev, even 2 or 3 devs, as I expand, it all is kind of in the range of reasonable. The <= 5% tax hurts a bit, but its manageable. If this is a model that creates better sustainability and faster dev cycles for Livecode, and if thats really true ... Then I want to be in full support of this model. I was somewhat surprised (sorry honest) at how well the new direction was explained. Great job on that. I like the no-pressure offer. 2027 is a lot of heads up for people to align their business model or to get off the platform. I like the flexibility of the offer for different kinds of devs Of course my review is based on my own situation and my own plans for the future of my company MakeShyft. I also work @ Canela, which is a hat I am not wearing at this moment. Everyone's situation is different, and I can see some users not loving this at all. All the best, may we all prosper and have our dreams come true. Tom ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode <http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode> ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode <http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode> ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode <http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode> ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscri
Re: Tutorial for Livecode Server log in system
Dear Alex and Pere
Thank you both for your code and and the time you took to help!
I'm am working through the code you sent, studying out how it
works. Great learning experience.
Also, Alex, your point of not using password log ins is a
philosophical re-frame in my thinking! Thank you!
Tim
On 2024/03/27 2:36, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode wrote:
Hi Tim,
I guess my first response would be - don't.
Specifically, don't store or use passwords. Users have a bad
habit of re-using the same passwords, so even if your site has no
personal or valuable info about your users, the fact that
passwords get re-used means you are storing valuable info, and so
you're taking on a moral responsibility to keep it very safe.
If you do have passwords, then you need to have a recovery
mechanism for when users forget their pssword. 99% of the time,
that involves emailing them a recovery link, or temp password, or
... So in effect the password has the same (or less) security
than their email account - so you might as well just use the
email account.
Nowadays I always use this style of password-free accounts. I
would have sent a copy of the known, tested, etc. code - but it's
all embedded in lots of my libraries, etc. and was tricky to
unravel. So I've sent a very bare-bones version; tested but not
all corner cases (e.g. I didn't wait a week to ensure time-outs
happened properly :-).
Overview: The user asks for a code to login with, that gets
emailed to them, and then they type that code in to the next
screen. Once that's successfully done, you set up a cookie in
their browser, valid for some reasonable length of time such as 7
days, and you're done. Any script that wants to can take the
getCurrentUser() code to check that they are logged in properly.
Internally, it's done by creating a temporary code (6 digits,
which is recorded along with their email and expires within 15
minutes), and once they have verified that code, you give them a
new code which is a UUID (so essentially un-guessable) which
lasts for the 7 days.
Other than that, I hope it's reasonably straightforward .
Alex.
simplelogin.lc
tExpires then
return empty
else
return item 2 of line -1 of tCodes
end if
end getCurrentUser
function shellEscape pText
-- keep this at the end because it messes up Coda colouring
repeat for each char tChar in "\`!$" & quote
replace tChar with "\" & tChar in pText
end repeat
return pText
end shellEscape
function wrapQ pText
return quote & pText & quote
end wrapQ
on askforemail
put ""
put " My email is "
put " "
put " Submit my
email "
put ""
end askforemail
on askforcode
put ""
put " My code is "
put " "
put " Submit my code
"
put ""
end askforcode
on askforlogout
put ""
put " "
put " Log me out
now"
put ""
end askforlogout
-- real code start here
put getCurrentUser() into tUser
if $_POST["logout"] AND tUser is not empty then
put $_COOKIE["myusercookie"] into tCode
put tCode & comma & tUser & comma & (the seconds-1) after \
URL ("file:codes.txt")
put "Successfully logged out."
exit to top
end if
if tUser is not empty then -- ask them if they want to log out
put "Already logged in as " & tUser
askforlogout
exit to top
end if
put $_POST["code"] into tCode
if tCode is not empty then
-- we need to compare this code with what is pending
put URL ("file:codes.txt") into tPending
put ( tCode & comma & "*") into tFilter
filter tPending with tFilter
put line -1 of tPending into tPending
if the seconds <= item 3 of tPending then -- found a match
pending
put item 2 of tPending into tEmail
put uuid("random") into tCode
put tCode & comma & tEmail & comma & (the
seconds+60*60*24*7) after \
URL ("file:codes.txt")
put cookie "myusercookie" with tCode until (the seconds +
60 * 60 * 24 * 7)
put "Successfully logged in"
exit to top
end if
-- no match for the code
put "Code not matched. Please try again or give different
email address."
askforcode
else
put $_POST["email"] into tEmail
end if
if tEmail is not empty then
-- have email address - generate a code and ask user for it
put random(99) into tSix
put format("%06d", tSix) into tSix
-- put this following line in for quick and easy testing !!
-- be sure to take it out later !!!
put "should email" && tSix && "to you."
-- build the message header, adding the from, to and subject
details
-- we also put any cc addresses in here, but not bcc (bcc
addresses hidden)
put "i...@kilmelford.com" into pFrom -- CHANGE KILMELFORD.COM
put tEmail into pTo
put "From:" && pFrom & return & \
"To:" && tEmail & return & \
"Subject: Login code for kilmelford.com" & \
return into tMsg
put "Content-Type: text/plain;" & return & return after tMsg
put "Your
Tutorial for Livecode Server log in system
Hi all. As a hobbiest/amateur I continue to plunk away with Livecode, mostly the server product in my on-rev account. Can anyone point me to a tutorial or sample of an online log in system (username, email and password) for a website using Livecode? I've found some php tutorials, and /think/ I could glean enough hints to roll my own in LC server, but would greatly prefer to start with LC itself! Any help appreciated! Tim Selander Japan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Uploading progress bar
We are airing a kid's anime program on TV this fall, and are encouraging parents to video their kids singing the theme song -- which we'll air at the end of the program. Using LC Server, I made a simple page for the parents to use to upload the videos. It's working fine, but I would like to add a progress bar to give some kind of user feedback as the upload can take 2 or 3 minutes. I've found several php scripts that do this, which look great but I have no idea how it works, but can anyone tell me how I could do this in LC? Any and all tips appreciated! Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: google translator access via livecode
I use google translate API with an LC Server web application. It
would probably work exactly the same with LC desktop.
The call looks like this:
put "https://www.googleapis.com/language/translate/v2?key=(your
google API account key)=cat=en=ja" into tURL
put URL tURL into vholder
The word to translate is 'cat' and vholder is below.
"data": { "translations": [ { "translatedText": "猫" } ] } }
JSON, I think. I just use LC and change itemdelimiter to zero in
on the translated text.
There is a monthly free limit on amount of text, then you pay. My
app is VERY low traffic and I have never gone over the free
amount of text to translate.
Hope this helps!
Tim Selander
Tokyo, Japan
On 2023.06.05 3:35, Andrew Meit via use-livecode wrote:
I am seeking a widget or live script code to translate a single word or at most
256 chrs text from within a stack.
I think there is or was Google api livecode could use to talk with the Google
translator server via scripting.
My ideal use: while moving the cursor over and clicking text the mousetext can
be sent to Google and return the translation.
Anyone have a sample stack to share?
Thanks, Andrew
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Re: LC Server and forcing page refreshes
Hi, Yes, Matthias suggested similar, and it works too. But it slowed down the pages a bit, and I'm on the old, slow on-rev server! Tim On 2023.06.02 21:57, Georges Malamoud via use-livecode wrote: You can also add parameters into your .htaccess file on your server (if you have access) RewriteEngine on Header add Cache-Control "max-age=1, no-cache, no-store, must-revalidate" Header add Pragma "no-cache" Header add Expires "Thu, 1 Jan 1970 00:00:00 GMT" Georges ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LC Server and forcing page refreshes
Got busy the past couple of days, but just tried this, Ralf -- works perfectly! (Assuming because it changes the cached URL??) Thank you! Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan On 2023.05.30 17:09, Ralf Bitter via use-livecode wrote: Hi Tim, how about adding a query string in the form of a timestamp to the member’s URL like: ?foo=1685433742125 Ralf On 30.05.2023 02:32, Tim Selander via use-livecode wrote: Once again find myself over my head in just a simple programming project. I made a little club members directory website, using LC server on on-rev's hosting site. Members can edit their info. I use a form, with the action going to an LC script. This script gets all the post data, shuffles it off to the database, and then goes back to the member's page using a re-direct: where vlink has the member's URL. My Problem: If folk update their photos, their browser cache still shows the old picture -- logically leading them to think the update failed. The photos are simply stored on the server, the database only stores the path of the file. The photo file shown on the member's page with an image tag. Can any of the gurus here tell me how to get the page to ignore the cache so the browser shows the new photo? Many thanks. Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
LC Server and forcing page refreshes
Once again find myself over my head in just a simple programming project. I made a little club members directory website, using LC server on on-rev's hosting site. Members can edit their info. I use a form, with the action going to an LC script. This script gets all the post data, shuffles it off to the database, and then goes back to the member's page using a re-direct: where vlink has the member's URL. My Problem: If folk update their photos, their browser cache still shows the old picture -- logically leading them to think the update failed. The photos are simply stored on the server, the database only stores the path of the file. The photo file shown on the member's page with an image tag. Can any of the gurus here tell me how to get the page to ignore the cache so the browser shows the new photo? Many thanks. Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: More Server Silliness -- Nevermind
Using Firefox developer tools, found out jquery was not loading property. Hangs head in shame at rookie mistake... Still not working properly, but continue to poke at it. Tim Selander On 2022.08.15 21:58, Tim Selander via use-livecode wrote: With Alex and everyone's help, I got the global vs cookies, etc., sorted out and am happily paginating away with my little membership web site. With Kenji's help, I got automatic address fill-in from Japanese zip codes. However, I was looking at LiveCode's server samples (serversamples.livecode.com/index.lc) and thought, gee, the Ajax filtering looks pretty neat. So I set off to make that work, and failed. I'd give up on it, but after wasting THIS much time on it, I gotta bring it to you all for a little input and hopefully another bail-out. Just for testing, I made two new files. The first with the code LC provides at https://serversamples.livecode.com/display-file.lc?filename=ajax-simple.lc and the second from step 3 of the ajax sample page, https://serversamples.livecode.com/ajax.lc. Changed only the bits needed to pull data from my database. File one, ajax-simple.lc, lists my data and an input box just like the sample page. But it sends no info via GET to the second file, filter.lc. If I manually put the GET info in the URL,(filter.lc?search_term=John, I get the filtered data I expect, but in the filter.lc window -- the data is not returned to File 1, ajax-simple.lc. Has anyone using LC Server gotten that ajax sample to work?? Many thanks, Tim Selander ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
More Server Silliness
With Alex and everyone's help, I got the global vs cookies, etc., sorted out and am happily paginating away with my little membership web site. With Kenji's help, I got automatic address fill-in from Japanese zip codes. However, I was looking at LiveCode's server samples (serversamples.livecode.com/index.lc) and thought, gee, the Ajax filtering looks pretty neat. So I set off to make that work, and failed. I'd give up on it, but after wasting THIS much time on it, I gotta bring it to you all for a little input and hopefully another bail-out. Just for testing, I made two new files. The first with the code LC provides at https://serversamples.livecode.com/display-file.lc?filename=ajax-simple.lc and the second from step 3 of the ajax sample page, https://serversamples.livecode.com/ajax.lc. Changed only the bits needed to pull data from my database. File one, ajax-simple.lc, lists my data and an input box just like the sample page. But it sends no info via GET to the second file, filter.lc. If I manually put the GET info in the URL,(filter.lc?search_term=John, I get the filtered data I expect, but in the filter.lc window -- the data is not returned to File 1, ajax-simple.lc. Has anyone using LC Server gotten that ajax sample to work?? Many thanks, Tim Selander ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Server globals
Alex, Went to your page, and wow, that is exactly what I was trying to do. I'm still trying to figure out exactly how you do it, but I'm headed in the right direction. Thanks! Tim On 2022.08.13 8:36, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode wrote: Hi Tim, I think there are many easy ways to do this - and many not-so-easy ones too. IMO, easiest for something simple like this is to just use the url. See tweedly.net/page_by_url.txt for the code, or try it out at tweedly.net/page_by_url.lc (or try tweedly.net/page_by_url.lc?row=14 ) You can do something very similar using a cookie, with the 'row' value stored in the cookie each time (remember to "put cookie ..." before *any* other output.) Or by using the cookie to hold the name of a file in which you store this kind of info. This is necessary if you need to store a lot of data - if there is not already a cookie, create a filename using something like uuid(), and store the file name in it - then retrieve the cookie, and read or write the file. Alex. On 12/08/2022 14:18, Tim Selander via use-livecode wrote: Hi Matthias, It is user specific, but I just tried the saving to a text file on the server -- very fast. Got the user IP from $_Server, and used that in the filename for easy later retrieval. How much data can a cookie hold? Guess I'll test that. One of the reasons I'm fussing with this is I'm trying to come up with some kind of pagination system. I'm probably trying to re-invent the wheel -- badly. It's a simple membership list, with a few hundred records. Only want to show 30 on the page at a time. I wonder if anyone has a LC sample for doing that. I tried Ralph Bitter's Revigniter but just can't wrap my head around it. Using MySQL for testing, so could try to figure out using the CURSOR feature. But know nothing about avoiding injection attacks, so may fall back to using a .csv for the datafile. I've done that for all my other projects Anyway, thanks for the info; no global variables, but file saves look like they'll work! Tim On 2022.08.12 21:26, matthias rebbe via use-livecode wrote: Hi Tim, does the variable have a user specific value or a value, that changes from time to time, but is the same for all users? I've done something some time ago and used a text file on the server which stored that value. In my case the value was not user specific so it was an easy task. If the variable is user specific, why don't you use a cookies for that? That will grant that the value is available at all pages in the same domain. Regards, Matthias Am 12.08.2022 um 13:27 schrieb Tim Selander via use-livecode : As always, appreciate everyone's help. Have made several little projects using LC Server on the on-rev.com host. For the first time, I would like a global variable -- that is a variable that would retain it's value even if the page is re-loaded. Or if a user goes to another .lc page/file in the domain. All my playing around, and Googling around, has been for nought. Is there a way to hang on to a bit of data was you move around pages in the same domain? Thanks. Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Server globals
Ah! Big problem I hadn't thought of -- thank you!! I'll try the local storage script Jacques offered. Many thanks. Tim On 2022.08.13 2:18, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode wrote: Using the IP can fail if more than one user is on the same IP via a router using NAT. The Browser local storage is a better solution. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Tim Selander via use-livecode Sent: Friday, August 12, 2022 9:18 AM To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Cc: Tim Selander Subject: Re: Server globals Hi Matthias, It is user specific, but I just tried the saving to a text file on the server -- very fast. Got the user IP from $_Server, and used that in the filename for easy later retrieval. How much data can a cookie hold? Guess I'll test that. One of the reasons I'm fussing with this is I'm trying to come up with some kind of pagination system. I'm probably trying to re-invent the wheel -- badly. It's a simple membership list, with a few hundred records. Only want to show 30 on the page at a time. I wonder if anyone has a LC sample for doing that. I tried Ralph Bitter's Revigniter but just can't wrap my head around it. Using MySQL for testing, so could try to figure out using the CURSOR feature. But know nothing about avoiding injection attacks, so may fall back to using a .csv for the datafile. I've done that for all my other projects Anyway, thanks for the info; no global variables, but file saves look like they'll work! Tim On 2022.08.12 21:26, matthias rebbe via use-livecode wrote: Hi Tim, does the variable have a user specific value or a value, that changes from time to time, but is the same for all users? I've done something some time ago and used a text file on the server which stored that value. In my case the value was not user specific so it was an easy task. If the variable is user specific, why don't you use a cookies for that? That will grant that the value is available at all pages in the same domain. Regards, Matthias Am 12.08.2022 um 13:27 schrieb Tim Selander via use-livecode : As always, appreciate everyone's help. Have made several little projects using LC Server on the on-rev.com host. For the first time, I would like a global variable -- that is a variable that would retain it's value even if the page is re-loaded. Or if a user goes to another .lc page/file in the domain. All my playing around, and Googling around, has been for nought. Is there a way to hang on to a bit of data was you move around pages in the same domain? Thanks. Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Server globals
Hi Matthias, It is user specific, but I just tried the saving to a text file on the server -- very fast. Got the user IP from $_Server, and used that in the filename for easy later retrieval. How much data can a cookie hold? Guess I'll test that. One of the reasons I'm fussing with this is I'm trying to come up with some kind of pagination system. I'm probably trying to re-invent the wheel -- badly. It's a simple membership list, with a few hundred records. Only want to show 30 on the page at a time. I wonder if anyone has a LC sample for doing that. I tried Ralph Bitter's Revigniter but just can't wrap my head around it. Using MySQL for testing, so could try to figure out using the CURSOR feature. But know nothing about avoiding injection attacks, so may fall back to using a .csv for the datafile. I've done that for all my other projects Anyway, thanks for the info; no global variables, but file saves look like they'll work! Tim On 2022.08.12 21:26, matthias rebbe via use-livecode wrote: Hi Tim, does the variable have a user specific value or a value, that changes from time to time, but is the same for all users? I've done something some time ago and used a text file on the server which stored that value. In my case the value was not user specific so it was an easy task. If the variable is user specific, why don't you use a cookies for that? That will grant that the value is available at all pages in the same domain. Regards, Matthias Am 12.08.2022 um 13:27 schrieb Tim Selander via use-livecode : As always, appreciate everyone's help. Have made several little projects using LC Server on the on-rev.com host. For the first time, I would like a global variable -- that is a variable that would retain it's value even if the page is re-loaded. Or if a user goes to another .lc page/file in the domain. All my playing around, and Googling around, has been for nought. Is there a way to hang on to a bit of data was you move around pages in the same domain? Thanks. Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Server globals
As always, appreciate everyone's help. Have made several little projects using LC Server on the on-rev.com host. For the first time, I would like a global variable -- that is a variable that would retain it's value even if the page is re-loaded. Or if a user goes to another .lc page/file in the domain. All my playing around, and Googling around, has been for nought. Is there a way to hang on to a bit of data was you move around pages in the same domain? Thanks. Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Auto populate an HTML form with LC server
一発でした！ 小島様、ありがとうごあいました。助かりました！ お久しぶりに「小島健治」というお名前をメールリストに見て、すごく嬉しくなりました。過去、何回も手伝ってくださいましたね。 ごめんんさい、芸術の世界とまったく縁のない人間ですが、HPを見ると、相変わらず重要なプロジェクトを取り上げていますね。 では、これからもよろしくお願いいたします。 セランダー・ティム Thank you so much!! Tim On 2022.08.07 20:17, Kenji Kojima wrote: Tim, See this https://www.webdesign-fan.com/ajaxzip3 and http://www.webdesign-fan-guide.com/ajaxzip3/ I believe you can use these on the LC server. Best, -- Kenji Kojima / 小島健治 http://www.kenjikojima.com/ On Aug 7, 2022, at 3:29 AM, Tim Selander via use-livecode <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote: Many web forms in Japan automatically fill in prefecture, town, ward and block when you just put in the zip code. I would like to do that on my web site, and know the api I would use. I assume these sites are using javascript, but can LC server pick up user input before the submit button is clicked? Any help appreciated. Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Auto populate an HTML form with LC server
Many web forms in Japan automatically fill in prefecture, town, ward and block when you just put in the zip code. I would like to do that on my web site, and know the api I would use. I assume these sites are using javascript, but can LC server pick up user input before the submit button is clicked? Any help appreciated. Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: What is the best way to trigger an action at a certain time?
Gentlemen, The trigger will be 'pulled' once or twice a day only -- so these external to LC options are also viable. Hadn't entered my head at all! Will be playing around with all these ideas and learn something! Basically use Macs, but have couple unused Windows laptops -- sounds like Task Scheduler and .bat files might be easier to deal with. Thanks. Tim On 2022.07.13 18:20, Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode wrote: Whatever works for your situation! At least one of my jobs, which runs a few times a week (pulling data from an internal system, generating and emailing a PDF report) has to launch fresh each time because of a bug in the graph widget which displays wrong if the script runs twice! There are others where the LC qpp is part of a dance in which other systems run before and after, so a batch script invoking each in turn is the thing that's scheduled. But of course there are contexts in which the best solution is an LC app waiting for a time or a command at which to leap into action. On 12/07/2022 22:56, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: Hmmm. Ok, but it seems having the LC app running invisibly all the time, listening for a command, something the cron service could do through the terminal easily enough, you could make it much more efficient. Just methods and madness I suppose. Bob S On Jul 12, 2022, at 13:15 , Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode wrote: I think I may not have been very clear. This isn't LiveCode doing anything special; just a standalone LiveCode app that either does something immediately on launch (and then quits), or inspects the command line parameters to decide what to do (and then quits). ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: What is the best way to trigger an action at a certain time?
Tore, Interesting! 'send in time' is a new one for me. Thanks! Tim On 2022.07.11 20:43, Tore Nilsen via use-livecode wrote: For this I would use a recursive approach with «send in time» something like this: on openStack checkTime end openStack on checkTime ## Do your routines of checking time, performing the required action etc. send checkTime to me in 300 seconds. ## you set the interval to whatever is best for you end checkTime Best regards Tore Nilsen 11. jul. 2022 kl. 13:35 skrev Tim Selander via use-livecode : Dear all, I want to have an LC app running on a computer doing nothing but watching the time. At predetermined times, I then want it to run a command. A call to an API on a website. In the old HC days, I remember using "on idle" to watch for a set time. But even then, using "on idle" was less than ideal. CPU hog. What is the preferred/LC way to have an app trigger a command at a specific time of day? Any pointers appreciated! Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
What is the best way to trigger an action at a certain time?
Dear all, I want to have an LC app running on a computer doing nothing but watching the time. At predetermined times, I then want it to run a command. A call to an API on a website. In the old HC days, I remember using "on idle" to watch for a set time. But even then, using "on idle" was less than ideal. CPU hog. What is the preferred/LC way to have an app trigger a command at a specific time of day? Any pointers appreciated! Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: access DOM in browser widget?
Sorry to pick up this thread half a year later, but I am searching for an answer to a related problem. On the LiveCode Forums I learned that if the page is loaded in a Browser widget on the desktop version of LC, you can [get the htmltext of widget "browser"] and get the info JS provides that is not part of the page's HTML source code. (In my case, I want the number of plays of a track on Soundcloud.) But I would like to get at this JS/DOM info through an LC Server script running on my on-rev.com server -- no browser widget there. Does anyone know how to get the JS/DOM generated text from a web page using LC Server? Any help appreciated! Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan On 2021.04.29 3:44, Tore Nilsen via use-livecode wrote: Have you had a look at "do in widget" in the Dictionary? You can actually perform JavaScript from LC on content in the browser widget. Best regards Tore 28. apr. 2021 kl. 20:33 skrev Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode : Thanks for responding Tom But if yoiu need any more of a direct way accessing itI don't know of one. Yes, that's what I'm after: to have a browser widget in a LiveCode stack, and be able to access the DOM (not the htmlText) in LiveCode script. It's not my page so I can't add javascript to it. Does anyone know if this is possible? TIA, Ben ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Whatever happened to on-rev?
A few weeks back (months?) they upgraded the servers. I have two accounts, personal and work. Before they were on different servers, but after the upgrade, both are on quartz.on-rev.com, and I can get at them through c-panel. Same user name and password. Recommend contacting support -- on-...@runrev.com -- to ask what server you are on now. Tim Selander Tokyo On 8/20/21 10:23 AM, Colin Holgate via use-livecode wrote: I recently had to use my space there, and this is the path to use: https://bedrock.on-rev.com:2083 <https://bedrock.on-rev.com:2083/> Having said that, right now it’s not loading. On Aug 19, 2021, at 5:19 PM, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode wrote: Well, it's complicated -) For me (Chrome on Mac), I get on-rev.com : redirects to livecode.com and all works ok www.on-rev.com : gives error page (in French) and Error 403 https://on-rev.com : gives scary "connection is not private", etc. message Alex. On 20/08/2021 00:59, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: I am getting an error that I do not have permission to access the site. I have a lifetime license. Bob S On Aug 19, 2021, at 16:54 , Jerry Jensen via use-livecode wrote: Eh, wot? For me it redirects to https://livecode.com (in Safari on a mac). .Jerry On Aug 19, 2021, at 4:43 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: ? looks like it bit the dust. http://on-rev.com/ -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Writing file to server with Livecode Server
Of course, right after posting, new ideas come to mind. Using "put (variable) into URL (server file)" failed, but using the old Open file (server file) write (variable) to file (server file) close file (server file) still works fine. Sorry for the disturbance! Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan On 2021.07.09 15:31, Tim Selander via use-livecode wrote: Hi, Several years back, I had a POST web form for our company where I saved responses to a .csv file on the same server and same folder as the .lc file. (All hosted on on-rev.com) That page is long gone, but I now need to do the same thing. But when I try to write the data to the csv file, I get a 405 Error. I suppose new security rules are behind this, but it's also very like I am simply making a coding mistake. Is it possible for an .lc script to write a text file to the same folder it resides in? Any help appreciated! Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Writing file to server with Livecode Server
Hi, Several years back, I had a POST web form for our company where I saved responses to a .csv file on the same server and same folder as the .lc file. (All hosted on on-rev.com) That page is long gone, but I now need to do the same thing. But when I try to write the data to the csv file, I get a 405 Error. I suppose new security rules are behind this, but it's also very like I am simply making a coding mistake. Is it possible for an .lc script to write a text file to the same folder it resides in? Any help appreciated! Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Getting user's IP address in LC Server
Hi Matthias! Works like a charm -- didn't even occur to me to check the server variable for IP. (yeah, amateur!) Thank you. Tim Selander Tokyo On 2021.05.04 16:48, matthias rebbe via use-livecode wrote: Hi Tim, you can use the array variable $_SERVER for it. The variable contains the CGI interface related variables, along with any HTTP_* variables that are available. $_SERVER["REMOTE_ADDR] contains the remote ip address. Matthias - Matthias Rebbe Life Is Too Short For Boring Code Am 04.05.2021 um 06:30 schrieb Tim Selander via use-livecode : Hi, I am trying to make a web page that changes content a bit based on the user's location. I am using my on-rev hosting account and am trying two different service's APIs: 1) put "My country is" && url "https://api.ipdata.co/country_name?api-key=my/key; 2) put "curl https://api.ipgeolocation.io/getip; into IPvariable But both of these return the info for Liquid Web LLC, the on-rev server company, not the info for me as I test the page in Tokyo. What is a reliable way to get the user's IP address and or geolocation info from LC Server? Any help appreciated! Thanks, Tim Selander Tokyo ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Getting user's IP address in LC Server
Hi, I am trying to make a web page that changes content a bit based on the user's location. I am using my on-rev hosting account and am trying two different service's APIs: 1) put "My country is" && url "https://api.ipdata.co/country_name?api-key=my/key; 2) put "curl https://api.ipgeolocation.io/getip; into IPvariable But both of these return the info for Liquid Web LLC, the on-rev server company, not the info for me as I test the page in Tokyo. What is a reliable way to get the user's IP address and or geolocation info from LC Server? Any help appreciated! Thanks, Tim Selander Tokyo ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: background images
Thanks, Peter. I added a little opencard script to load the image for each card, which is fine and solves the immediate problem. But I was quite certain that in the past, I had a stack, with an image control in a background that would keep a unique image for each card without scripting. I must be dreaming/getting forgetful in my old age! Tim Selander On 2021.01.19 10:20, Peter Bogdanoff via use-livecode wrote: That’s where a image that is not part of the group is useful; it’s only on that card. Otherwise you would have to set the background image dynamically on preOpenCard based on stored data about that image/card combination. Peter Bogdanoff On Jan 18, 2021, at 4:44 PM, Tim Selander via use-livecode wrote: Right, which is why this is so confusing. I do not want a 'shared text' image. Each card should keep it's own unique image, but when I change the image on one card, all the cards end up with the same image. That is what I want to fix. Tim Selander On 2021.01.19 3:21, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote: Hi Tim, Am 18.01.2021 um 19:12 schrieb Tim Selander via use-livecode : This is driving me nuts. Have a 'background' group with an image. If I change the filename of an image on one card, ALL the cards change to that image. Yet a field in the same group properly will take unique values for each card. I know I've done this before... what setting am I missing?? Dropbox link to test stack: https://www.dropbox.com/s/0r0ku3fw2i2pen7/test.livecode?dl=0 fields can have a "sharedtext" property, so they can hold different text on each card if part of a group. Images can NOT! Any help appreciated! Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan Best Klaus -- Klaus Major https://www.major-k.de kl...@major-k.de ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: background images
Right, which is why this is so confusing. I do not want a 'shared text' image. Each card should keep it's own unique image, but when I change the image on one card, all the cards end up with the same image. That is what I want to fix. Tim Selander On 2021.01.19 3:21, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote: Hi Tim, Am 18.01.2021 um 19:12 schrieb Tim Selander via use-livecode : This is driving me nuts. Have a 'background' group with an image. If I change the filename of an image on one card, ALL the cards change to that image. Yet a field in the same group properly will take unique values for each card. I know I've done this before... what setting am I missing?? Dropbox link to test stack: https://www.dropbox.com/s/0r0ku3fw2i2pen7/test.livecode?dl=0 fields can have a "sharedtext" property, so they can hold different text on each card if part of a group. Images can NOT! Any help appreciated! Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan Best Klaus -- Klaus Major https://www.major-k.de kl...@major-k.de ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
background images
This is driving me nuts. Have a 'background' group with an image. If I change the filename of an image on one card, ALL the cards change to that image. Yet a field in the same group properly will take unique values for each card. I know I've done this before... what setting am I missing?? Dropbox link to test stack: https://www.dropbox.com/s/0r0ku3fw2i2pen7/test.livecode?dl=0 Any help appreciated! Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: multi line Livecode field uploaded to MySQL
Thank you!
It didn't quite work for me at first, but in re-reading the
Dictionary on revExecuteSQL and reading BYU's page on the
subject, I got it working.
Really appreciate your help.
Tim Selander
Tokyo
On 2019.02.16 18:17, Ludovic THEBAULT via use-livecode wrote:
Le 16 févr. 2019 à 09:17, Tim Selander via use-livecode
a écrit :
Thank you for your reply, but I haven't gotten it working yet.
The code in my first post was from my working stack. Here is what I have from
my non-working stack after re-writing to follow your instructions:
# Construct SQL
put "INSERT INTO
contactInfo(key,organization,denomination,address,category,tel,fax,tEmail,access,founded,staff,servicetime,web,character)"
& \
" VALUES(:1,:2,:3,:4,:5,:6,:7,:8,:9,:10,:11,:12,:13,:14)" into tSQL
# Execute SQL
revExecuteSQL(gconnection,tSQL,vkey,vorg,vdenom,vadd,vcategory,vtel,vfax,vtEmail,vaccess,vfounded,vstaff,vtime,vweb,vcat)
put the result into tTmp
The table name is "contactInfo" and the list of the table's fields is in the
paranthesis.
The VALUES(:1,:2 syntax is something I haven't seen before. I assume that
you need as many numbers as you have fields?
You say to use variables, and I am assuming in the "revExecuteSQL" line. Is that correct?
I tried the list of variables both with the quotes you used, and without just to see. I also tried
replacing the revExecuteSQL comman with revdb_execute. Both result in this error: {execution error
at line n/a (External handler execution error: revdberr,syntax error) near "revdberr,syntax
error"}
I appreciate your taking the time to educate me.
Tim Selander
Here an example :
put fld "name" into tName
put the label of btn "title" into tTitle
put fld "first_name" into fFirst_Name
put fld "address" into tAddress
put fld "citycode" into tCitycode
put fld "tCity" into tCity
put fld "tPhone" into tPhone
put fld "tEmail" into tEmail
put "INSERT INTO address ( tAddress, tCitycode, tEmail, tName, fFirst_Name, tPhone,
tTitle, tCity) VALUES ( :1, :2, :3, :4, :5, :6, :7, :8 );" into tSQL
revExecuteSQL tDatabaseID, tSQL, "tAddress", "tCitycode", "tEmail", "tName", "fFirst_Name",
"tPhone", "tTitle", "tCity"
//The quote are necessary in last line
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Re: multi line Livecode field uploaded to MySQL
Thank you for your reply, but I haven't gotten it working yet.
The code in my first post was from my working stack. Here is what
I have from my non-working stack after re-writing to follow your
instructions:
# Construct SQL
put "INSERT INTO
contactInfo(key,organization,denomination,address,category,tel,fax,email,access,founded,staff,servicetime,web,character)"
& \
" VALUES(:1,:2,:3,:4,:5,:6,:7,:8,:9,:10,:11,:12,:13,:14)" into tSQL
# Execute SQL
revExecuteSQL(gconnection,tSQL,vkey,vorg,vdenom,vadd,vcategory,vtel,vfax,vemail,vaccess,vfounded,vstaff,vtime,vweb,vcat)
put the result into tTmp
The table name is "contactInfo" and the list of the table's
fields is in the paranthesis.
The VALUES(:1,:2 syntax is something I haven't seen before.
I assume that you need as many numbers as you have fields?
You say to use variables, and I am assuming in the
"revExecuteSQL" line. Is that correct? I tried the list of
variables both with the quotes you used, and without just to see.
I also tried replacing the revExecuteSQL comman with
revdb_execute. Both result in this error: {execution error at
line n/a (External handler execution error: revdberr,syntax
error) near "revdberr,syntax error"}
I appreciate your taking the time to educate me.
Tim Selander
On 2019.02.16 16:12, Ludovic THEBAULT via use-livecode wrote:
Le 16 févr. 2019 à 07:59, Tim Selander via use-livecode
a écrit :
I have a routine to take data from fields on a card and upload to a mysql
database. Has worked well for years, got the original script off the Livecode
learning site.
---
# Construct SQL
put "INSERT INTO
podcast(IP,accesstime,access_date,pgm_name,access_code,bytes,agent,city,region,country)"
& \
" VALUES(" & tRowData & ")" into tSQL
# Execute SQL
put revdb_execute(gconnection,tSQL) into tTmp
if the result is not 1 then
put the result && tSQL & return after message
end if
-
tRowData has the data from the card fields, comma delimited.
Now, I'm needing to upload fields with multiple lines. But the returns in the
data mess it up. Tried enclosing the field data in quotes, like .csv files, but
that didn't work either.
MySQL can handle multi-line text fields so how do I upload them from LC?
Any hints greatly appreciated.
Hello,
use this syntax :
put "INSERT INTO
podcast(IP,accesstime,access_date,pgm_name,access_code,bytes,agent,city,region,country)"
& \
" VALUES(:1,:2,:3,:4,:5,:6,:7,:8,:9)" into tSQL
# Execute SQL
revExecuteSQL
gconnection,tSQL,"IP","accesstime","access_date","pgm_name","access_code","bytes","agent","city","region
», "country »)
put the result into tTmp
// where IP, accesstime… are variables
Ludovic
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multi line Livecode field uploaded to MySQL
I have a routine to take data from fields on a card and upload to
a mysql database. Has worked well for years, got the original
script off the Livecode learning site.
---
# Construct SQL
put "INSERT INTO
podcast(IP,accesstime,access_date,pgm_name,access_code,bytes,agent,city,region,country)"
& \
" VALUES(" & tRowData & ")" into tSQL
# Execute SQL
put revdb_execute(gconnection,tSQL) into tTmp
if the result is not 1 then
put the result && tSQL & return after message
end if
-
tRowData has the data from the card fields, comma delimited.
Now, I'm needing to upload fields with multiple lines. But the
returns in the data mess it up. Tried enclosing the field data in
quotes, like .csv files, but that didn't work either.
MySQL can handle multi-line text fields so how do I upload
them from LC? Any hints greatly appreciated.
Tim Selander
Tokyo
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Re: Images and Players in "background" groups
Hi Peter, Thanks for the info. It took a little playing around, but I now have each card loading up properly with it's association image or video file. Thanks! Tim Selander Tokyo On 2019.02.03 16:42, Peter Bogdanoff via use-livecode wrote: Hi Tim, That would be correct. To have a different image on every card, you could: 1. Have an image control that’s not part of the group on every card or 2. Some other method of dynamically loading the image data into an image that is part of the group, such as on openCard: put URL tURL into image “My Image" of this card where tURL is a path to a local or remote file. Player controls would use similar methods as above. Peter Bogdanoff On Feb 2, 2019, at 10:55 PM, Tim Selander via use-livecode wrote: For the first time ever, probably, I have a little project that needs the HC "stack of cards" structure. Have a few buttons and fields in a group, acting a a background and it all works as expected. However, I also have an image and a play in the group/background. Oddly, when I set one card's image via "set the filename of image to URL" it puts that image or video on ALL the cards. So the bg flds can all have different values per card, but the images and players cannot! Is this right?? I have searched the dictionary and google to no avail Tim Selander Tokyo ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Images and Players in "background" groups
For the first time ever, probably, I have a little project that needs the HC "stack of cards" structure. Have a few buttons and fields in a group, acting a a background and it all works as expected. However, I also have an image and a play in the group/background. Oddly, when I set one card's image via "set the filename of image to URL" it puts that image or video on ALL the cards. So the bg flds can all have different values per card, but the images and players cannot! Is this right?? I have searched the dictionary and google to no avail Tim Selander Tokyo ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Writing a UTF8 text file to server -- solved
Just for posterity... Tried many combinations of various commands opening the file as a binfile instead of a text file solved my problem Changed: open file vfile for utf8 text update To: open file vfile for binary update At which point the same command: write vdata to file vfile at end properly saved the data as utf8/kanji to the file on the server. All's well that ends well. Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan On 2018.10.04 15:48, Tim Selander via use-livecode wrote: Hi Scott, Added info; I have at the top of the web page source. Then, I only found outputTextEncoding in the dictionary. It said it only works with CGI (server), put when I put: set the outputTextEncoding to "utf-8" into the script before dealing with the $_POST array, it broke the Kanji on the web page itself. Googling turned up info on the textEncode function, but this script still results with a saved file of gibberish and not Kanji. Changed the script to this: put $_POST[firstname] --(Results in Kanji name to web page) put "data.txt" into vfile open file vfile for utf8 text update put textEncode($_POST[firstname], "UTF-8") into vdata write vdata to file vfile at end close file vfile but still get a file with broken kanji. Any hints? Tim On 2018/10/04 15:08, scott--- via use-livecode wrote: Hello Tim, Did you look at the textEncode function? — Scott Morrow On Oct 3, 2018, at 10:22 PM, Tim Selander via use-livecode wrote: I am using Livecode Server on Livecode's hosting plan. Taking my first stab at a web response form. I am getting the data from $_POST fine, and when I simply do something like: put $_POST[firstname] the UTF8/Kanji word shows up fine in the webpage. But I am unable to save the data to a file on the server encoded in UTF8 (simply trying to collect the submitted data). put "data.txt" into vfile open file vfile for utf8 text update put $_POST[firstname] & comma & $_POST[lastname] & comma & $_POST[country] & the time & return into vdata write vdata to file vfile at end close file vfile Data is getting saved, but in gibberish, not in kanji/utf8. Anyone see what I'm doing wrong? TIA Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Writing a UTF8 text file to server.
Hi Scott, Added info; I have charset=UTF-8" ?> at the top of the web page source. Then, I only found outputTextEncoding in the dictionary. It said it only works with CGI (server), put when I put: set the outputTextEncoding to "utf-8" into the script before dealing with the $_POST array, it broke the Kanji on the web page itself. Googling turned up info on the textEncode function, but this script still results with a saved file of gibberish and not Kanji. Changed the script to this: put $_POST[firstname] --(Results in Kanji name to web page) put "data.txt" into vfile open file vfile for utf8 text update put textEncode($_POST[firstname], "UTF-8") into vdata write vdata to file vfile at end close file vfile but still get a file with broken kanji. Any hints? Tim On 2018/10/04 15:08, scott--- via use-livecode wrote: Hello Tim, Did you look at the textEncode function? — Scott Morrow On Oct 3, 2018, at 10:22 PM, Tim Selander via use-livecode wrote: I am using Livecode Server on Livecode's hosting plan. Taking my first stab at a web response form. I am getting the data from $_POST fine, and when I simply do something like: put $_POST[firstname] the UTF8/Kanji word shows up fine in the webpage. But I am unable to save the data to a file on the server encoded in UTF8 (simply trying to collect the submitted data). put "data.txt" into vfile open file vfile for utf8 text update put $_POST[firstname] & comma & $_POST[lastname] & comma & $_POST[country] & the time & return into vdata write vdata to file vfile at end close file vfile Data is getting saved, but in gibberish, not in kanji/utf8. Anyone see what I'm doing wrong? TIA Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Writing a UTF8 text file to server.
I am using Livecode Server on Livecode's hosting plan. Taking my first stab at a web response form. I am getting the data from $_POST fine, and when I simply do something like: put $_POST[firstname] the UTF8/Kanji word shows up fine in the webpage. But I am unable to save the data to a file on the server encoded in UTF8 (simply trying to collect the submitted data). put "data.txt" into vfile open file vfile for utf8 text update put $_POST[firstname] & comma & $_POST[lastname] & comma & $_POST[country] & the time & return into vdata write vdata to file vfile at end close file vfile Data is getting saved, but in gibberish, not in kanji/utf8. Anyone see what I'm doing wrong? TIA Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Using the $_POST global in LiveCode server
Thanks, Mike. This seemed like a good hint/possible solution. Another though has just occurred to me also.. If you use session variables, you can store the search term in the session, and since the browser will re-post on reload, if $_POST and your session variable contain the same search term, its possible (likely?) that it was a reload rather than a new search, then don't do the search. Not sure if this is helpful, However, when I tried and the server returned the error file "/home/pba/public_html/lifelinesearch.lc" row 2, col 1: This snippet is at the very top of the page, so row 2 is "start session." Am I misundertanding the syntax of 'session'? Thanks, Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Using the $_POST global in LiveCode server
Hi, Is it possible to change, or even delete, the $_POST[] array in LiveCode server? I want to clear it after my script has pulled out the info it needs. Or, maybe there's another way to skin the cat. I have a search page that returns a list of our online TV programs. But even if the page is reloaded, the previous search term is still "live" in the $_P, so the page returns the previously searched list of programs. If a user reloads the page, I want the page to come up with no program list until they enter a new search term. Any pointers? Thanks! Tim Selander Tokyo Japan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
$_POST[] variable?
Hi, Is it possible to manipulate the contents of the $_Post[] global directly on Livecode serve? When I reload a page, the values in the array still have the values in them from the previous time the "Submit" button was used... efforts to delete or put empty into, do not seem to work. Thanks. Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: UTF8 on LC server
Mark, Success! Greatly appreciate your walking me through this. Have a great weekend. Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 7:15 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: On 2018-06-01 12:53, Tim Selander via use-livecode wrote: Hi Mark, Here is the script. The files I'm using are bamboobabies.com/getjapanesetext.lc, and the text it is getting is bamboobabies.com/news.txt. In the script, there are two lines reading the text file that I've taken turns commenting out If you can give me any hints, it would be greatly appreciated. Tim Selander workbench http://bamboobabies.com/news.txt; into vText --When this line is used, none of the put text is readable --put textDecode(url "binfile:bamboobabies.com/news.txt", "utf-8") into vText put line 1 of vText put "" put char 500 to 550 of vText ?> Try this: workbench http://bamboobabies.com/news.txt;, "utf-8") into vText put line 1 of vText put "" put char 500 to 550 of vText ?> The problem you are having is that your text-file is UTF-8, but the engine doesn't know that - you need to explicit decode it into a LiveCode string using textDecode. You can then manipulate it as chars etc. correctly with Unicode. That solves the 'getting data into livecode in the form needed' problem. The other side of the problem is the text encoding used when you do 'put'. By default this is 'native' - by setting the outputTextEncoding at the start, the engine will automatically encode any strings you 'put' with the encoding specified. Hope this helps! Mark. -- Mark Waddingham ~ m...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ LiveCode: Everyone can create apps ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: UTF8 on LC server
Hi Mark,
Here is the script. The files I'm using are
bamboobabies.com/getjapanesetext.lc, and the text it is getting
is bamboobabies.com/news.txt.
In the script, there are two lines reading the text file that
I've taken turns commenting out
If you can give me any hints, it would be greatly appreciated.
Tim Selander
workbench
--This line loads readable japanese text, but putting char 500 to
550 breaks beginning and ending kanji
put url "http://bamboobabies.com/news.txt; into vText
--When this line is used, none of the put text is readable
--put textDecode(url "binfile:bamboobabies.com/news.txt",
"utf-8") into vText
put line 1 of vText
put ""
put char 500 to 550 of vText
?>
On 2018.06.01 16:17, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote:
You should be fine using 'character' on any unicode text - it
uses the Unicode grapheme (specific name of 'character's as
human's 'think' of 'character's) breaking rules to find the
boundaries.
That being said, I think codepoint (from memory) should also be
okay on Japanese text as I don't think the Japanese/Chinese
scripts have any multi-codepoint characters - they just use
codepoints with value > 65535 for less used ideographs (the
'supplementary plane'). [ Korean script can be encoded with
Hangul, which *does* require the use of character as a single
Korean Hangul ideograph can be composed of up to three codepoints ].
The fact it is breaking on Japanese text in the way you suggest
makes me think you aren't textDecode()'ing your UTF-8 input files:
e.g.
put textDecode(url ("binfile:"), "utf-8") into tText
Without decoding as utf-8, the engine will thing your file is
'native' (single-byte encoded), so each byte of the file will be
seen as a separate character.
Internally the engine uses either single-byte or double-byte
encodings for strings (the latter being UTF-16) - which is not
user-visible, you just need to make sure that incoming data is
decoded correctly.
Can you share the code you are using to read in the text data and
code which is breaking on server?
Warmest Regards,
Mark.
P.S. 'word' in LC is still any sequence of non-space characters
separated by spaces, or any sequence of characters delimited by
quotes - it takes no account of the script of the text, nor
actual word-boundaries. If you want human-style word boundaries
then you should use trueWord (which uses the standard Unicode
word breaking rules).
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Re: UTF8 on LC server
Hi Kee and Alex, The original documents I'm working with are UTF8, so that's that I've been using. So converting them to UTF16 is recommended? I'll try that. Alex, desktop is version 8 something, and the server is the one installed on the on-rev host; can't remember what the key in $_Server for than info is, and Googling failed me this time... Tim Selander On 2018/06/01 8:55, kee nethery via use-livecode wrote: I’m assuming you are using “unicode” (aka UTF-16) and not UTF8 to do all your transforming of the data? Kee On May 31, 2018, at 4:46 PM, Tim Selander via use-livecode wrote: Thanks, Kee. Actually, I had found the reference to codepoint in the dictionary and tried it. But it seems to work the same as character -- breaking kanji. My test code is "put codepoint 500 to 550 of variable1" and the webpage shows: �。こうして夕があり、朝があった。� The beginning and ending kanji got split in half. Identical results to "put char 500 to 550." Tim Selander ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: UTF8 on LC server
Thanks, Kee. Actually, I had found the reference to codepoint in the dictionary and tried it. But it seems to work the same as character -- breaking kanji. My test code is "put codepoint 500 to 550 of variable1" and the webpage shows: �。こうして夕があり、朝があった。� The beginning and ending kanji got split in half. Identical results to "put char 500 to 550." Tim Selander On 2018/06/01 8:39, kee nethery via use-livecode wrote: On May 31, 2018, at 4:33 PM, Tim Selander via use-livecode wrote: Thanks, Warren. Yes, I've got that header set up, and UTF8 is working fine, pages look great. But LC server is not handling character chunking in variables the same way as LC desktop. In desktop, I can say "put char 1 of variable1" and I get a Japanese kanji. In LC Server, I only get half a kanji. "Word" chunks are also not working. Items and lines are OK. Yep, “char" is no longer the thing to use. Use “codepoint”. put codepoint 1 of variable1 Kee Nethery ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: UTF8 on LC server
Thanks, Warren. Yes, I've got that header set up, and UTF8 is working fine, pages look great. But LC server is not handling character chunking in variables the same way as LC desktop. In desktop, I can say "put char 1 of variable1" and I get a Japanese kanji. In LC Server, I only get half a kanji. "Word" chunks are also not working. Items and lines are OK. I never got the hange of all the encodes and decodes needed for Japanese in LC 6 and earlier... but does LC server require those kinds of text manipulations? Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan On 2018/06/01 6:43, Warren Samples via use-livecode wrote: On 05/31/2018 06:43 AM, Tim Selander via use-livecode wrote: Is there any way to get LC Server to handle double-byte characters the same way LC desktop does? Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan LC Server serves pages with a default "Content-Type" header of: Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 That would prevent the display of Japanese characters. Try putting: put header "Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8" at the top of your lc pages after the Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
UTF8 on LC server
Hi, In LC, if I have a field or variable in Japanese (double-byte) and get, say, the 5th character, it returns the correct double-byte character. But on LC server (on-rev hosting) "character" commands get single bytes, breaking the Japanese character turning it into gibberish. Is there any way to get LC Server to handle double-byte characters the same way LC desktop does? Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: another mac to Windows gotcha
Hi Peter, Tried if pkeyname is "j" then set the playrate of player videoplayer to -1 start player videplayer end if Results in a pause in playback as long as I am holding ctrl-j, as soon as that's released, forward play resumes. Thanks. Tim On 2018.02.25 0:26, Peter Bogdanoff via use-livecode wrote: Tim, Try both commands in order: set playRate, then start. Peter Bogdanoff On Feb 24, 2018, at 10:16 AM, Tim Selander via use-livecode <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: Hi Paul, Using 9.0 dp11 community. After sending the post, I found in the dictionary that for windows, commandkeydown message. After changing my script from controlkeydown to commandkeydown, it worked. Sort of. My next problem is that on the LC/osx I use: if pkeyname is "j" then set the playrate of player videoplayer to -1 if pkeyname is "k" then set the playrate of player videoplayer to 0 if pkeyname is "l" then set the playrate of player videoplayer to 1 to start, stop or reverse the player from the keyboard. This worked great in LC/osx, but is not working in win7/LC. I changed the lines to if pkeyname is "k" then stop player videoplayer if pkeyname is "l" then start player videoplayer and that works in win7/lc. But can't figure out how to send a play in reverse command from the keyboard yet. Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan On 2018.02.24 23:44, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode wrote: controlKeyDown is absolutely available on Windows. See the dictionary entry in LC8.1.9 for example. What version of LiveCode are you using? On 2/24/2018 9:04 AM, Tim Selander via use-livecode wrote: Hi, Trying my first little LC app on Windows. I wrote an app on osx and am now trying to get it to work in a Win7 machine. On the mac app, I use ctrl-J, ctrl-K, and ctrl-L to control the video player. JKL is pretty standard video player control in video editing software. On the mac app, the card script 'listens' for controlkeydown, and if the other key is J K or L, sends the appropriate go, stop, reverse command to the player. Have just discovered controlkeydown is not available on windows. Is there an equivalent? What would the windows guy and gals here use? Thanks, Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: another mac to Windows gotcha
Hi Paul, Using 9.0 dp11 community. After sending the post, I found in the dictionary that for windows, commandkeydown message. After changing my script from controlkeydown to commandkeydown, it worked. Sort of. My next problem is that on the LC/osx I use: if pkeyname is "j" then set the playrate of player videoplayer to -1 if pkeyname is "k" then set the playrate of player videoplayer to 0 if pkeyname is "l" then set the playrate of player videoplayer to 1 to start, stop or reverse the player from the keyboard. This worked great in LC/osx, but is not working in win7/LC. I changed the lines to if pkeyname is "k" then stop player videoplayer if pkeyname is "l" then start player videoplayer and that works in win7/lc. But can't figure out how to send a play in reverse command from the keyboard yet. Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan On 2018.02.24 23:44, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode wrote: controlKeyDown is absolutely available on Windows. See the dictionary entry in LC8.1.9 for example. What version of LiveCode are you using? On 2/24/2018 9:04 AM, Tim Selander via use-livecode wrote: Hi, Trying my first little LC app on Windows. I wrote an app on osx and am now trying to get it to work in a Win7 machine. On the mac app, I use ctrl-J, ctrl-K, and ctrl-L to control the video player. JKL is pretty standard video player control in video editing software. On the mac app, the card script 'listens' for controlkeydown, and if the other key is J K or L, sends the appropriate go, stop, reverse command to the player. Have just discovered controlkeydown is not available on windows. Is there an equivalent? What would the windows guy and gals here use? Thanks, Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
another mac to Windows gotcha
Hi, Trying my first little LC app on Windows. I wrote an app on osx and am now trying to get it to work in a Win7 machine. On the mac app, I use ctrl-J, ctrl-K, and ctrl-L to control the video player. JKL is pretty standard video player control in video editing software. On the mac app, the card script 'listens' for controlkeydown, and if the other key is J K or L, sends the appropriate go, stop, reverse command to the player. Have just discovered controlkeydown is not available on windows. Is there an equivalent? What would the windows guy and gals here use? Thanks, Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
playing a video in Win7?
Hi, Trying to simply play an h264 video on LC 9 in a player on a Win7 machine. Quicktime installed. I have .mov, .mp4, .mv4 videos that all play fine on Mac osx /and/ in QT on the Win7 machine. But I can only get .wmv to play in the LC player object on Win7. Have to create a little in-house app for a Win7 user... Very first time to use LC on Windows. Any hints? Much appreciated. Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Getting current line number of a table field.
Hi Mike, Thanks! I put the script in the table field itself with no luck. But when I moved it to the card script, it works! Great! I never would have come up with that in a million years. This list is fantastic. Oh, and I just re-named the table field to "Opera" ;-) Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan On 2018.02.15 1:04, Mike Bonner via use-livecode wrote: Try this... on rawkeyup pkey send "getline" to me in 10 millisec pass rawkeyup end rawkeyup command getline put the short name of the focusedobject end getline This gives you the name of the editing field that appears for each cell in the form of: revCell-2,2 Parse that and voila, you have your info. On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 8:35 AM, dunbarx via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: You know, this proved more of a problem than I thought. Richmond, the issue is with tab and return keyPresses, not mouse clicks. Anyway, given a table field 1 and another field 2, this works if you tab or return in the table field: on rawKeyUp tKey put the selectedLoc && the selectedChunk into fld 2 pass rawKeyUp end rawKeyUp And this works fine in a button: on mouseUp set the itemDel to tab select item 2 of line 2 of fld 1 answer the selectedLine of fld 1 end mouseUp But this does not in the table field: on rawKeyDown tKey put "" into fld 2 put the selectedLine into fld 2 pass rawKeyDown end rawKeyDown I always get "line 1 of field 3" () Kluge city to get the line from the selectedLoc, but that would indeed work. Is it that in a table field, if only one "cell" is selected, the selectedLine just does not compute? Craig Newman -- Sent from: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/ Revolution-User-f278306.html ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Getting current line number of a table field.
Hi, Editing a table field (not datagrid) and need to track the number of the line that is being edited. If I click into a new line, "selectionchanged" will let me figure out what line I'm editing. But if I hit return or tab to go to a new line, how can I track what line the cursor is in? Rawkeyups and downs are being sent, but I have been unsuccessful in trapping them in the table field's script. Any ideas? Much appreciated. Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Getting directory list from web server??
Hi, Up until now, in my livecode server script, put URL "http://www.myserver.com/radio/15/; after vlist has gotten me text list of the directory contents. Now it gets me a "You don't have permission to access." error message. on-rev hosting, "sage" is the server. Anyone know what is going on? TIA Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sending an FTP command from one web server to another?
Richard, Have never written a CGI in my life but you got me thinking; a quick Google found me a php script to "print" a folder listing. So now my .lc script on my on-rev serve puts the url of the .php page on the server with the mp3s into a variable -- which gives me the list of file names I was trying to get via ftp. Works slick. Thanks! Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan On 2017.07.19, 2:16, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: Tim Selander wrote: > My company gave up on hosting our email and website at on-rev.com > back when they were having lots of reliability problems. We're using > a host in Japan; no LC server installed, nor is it installable. > > I still have our Founder's account on on-rev.com, and use quite a few > .lc scripts, calling them from iframes in web pages hosted on the new > host. > > Our radio programs' mp3 files are stored on the new host. I want one > of my scripts on on-rev.com to get the directory listing of the mp3 > files on the new host. FTP is probably not the best solution for this, for reasons too numerable to list this morning. But for the task as described, other simpler, more efficient, and more secure alternatives exist: Can you run a CGI on the server holding the MP3 files to obtain that list? Or, if they're within you're web root, can you use Apache's directory listing? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sending an FTP command from one web server to another?
Hi again Matthias, I remembered I was given an ftp account on a colleague's server awhile back -- tried that and got access with both LC server and via ssh on sage.on-rev. So gmoserver.jp is blocking access from sage.on-rev somehow... Back to the drawing board. Thanks for your time and input. Tim On 2017.07.18, 20:34, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode wrote: Hi Tim, i had some time during lunch and made a quick test on my on-rev account at the Jasmine server. I am able to list the files of a non on-rev server without problems using livecode server. Jasmine runs version 7.1.0 of lc server. Regards, Matthias Matthias Rebbe +49 5741 31 matthiasrebbe.eu <http://matthiasrebbe.eu/> Am 18.07.2017 um 12:50 schrieb Tim Selander via use-livecode <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>: Hi Matthias, Good idea. I just sent support an email asking to have ssh activated! I'll post again with results! Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan On 2017.07.18, 19:12, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode wrote: Do you have ssh access for your on-rev account? If not, ask support to enable it for you. Try to use ftp from the commandline, just to see if gmoserver.jp <http://gmoserver.jp/> <http://gmoserver.jp/ <http://gmoserver.jp/>> accepts that connection. If that also doesn´t work, then i would assume that your server is blocking the incoming connection from on-rev. If that works, then livecode server seems to have a problem with ftp outgoing connections. Matthias Matthias Rebbe +49 5741 31 matthiasrebbe.eu <http://matthiasrebbe.eu/> <http://matthiasrebbe.eu/ <http://matthiasrebbe.eu/>> Am 18.07.2017 um 10:38 schrieb Tim Selander via use-livecode <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>>: Hi, My company gave up on hosting our email and website at on-rev.com <http://on-rev.com/> <http://on-rev.com/ <http://on-rev.com/>> back when they were having lots of reliability problems. We're using a host in Japan; no LC server installed, nor is it installable. I still have our Founder's account on on-rev.com <http://on-rev.com/> <http://on-rev.com/ <http://on-rev.com/>>, and use quite a few .lc scripts, calling them from iframes in web pages hosted on the new host. Our radio programs' mp3 files are stored on the new host. I want one of my scripts on on-rev.com <http://on-rev.com/> <http://on-rev.com/ <http://on-rev.com/>> to get the directory listing of the mp3 files on the new host. The ftp command from LC tutorials works fine from LC desktop (Community edition, Mac) to get the filelist: put url "ftp://user:p...@domain.com/folder/ <ftp://user:p...@domain.com/folder/> <ftp://user:p...@domain.com/folder/ <ftp://user:p...@domain.com/folder/>>" into myVariable Put when I call it from the server .lc script on on-rev, the result is: error Failed to connect to gmoserver.jp <http://gmoserver.jp/> <http://gmoserver.jp/ <http://gmoserver.jp/>> port 21: Connection refused (gmoserver.jp <http://gmoserver.jp/> <http://gmoserver.jp/ <http://gmoserver.jp/>> is our new host here in Japan.) Any ideas why the connection would be refused when coming from on-rev, but not LC desktop? Anyways around this? Thanks in advance. Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sending an FTP command from one web server to another?
Hi again, Reporting back for RevRun support was very quick at activating ssh on my account -- thanks! However, using ftp from the commandline to gmoserver.jp resulted in the same message: connection refused OK, time to take a new tack on the problem! Thanks for the tip, Matthias. Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan On 2017.07.18, 19:12, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode wrote: Do you have ssh access for your on-rev account? If not, ask support to enable it for you. Try to use ftp from the commandline, just to see if gmoserver.jp <http://gmoserver.jp/> accepts that connection. If that also doesn´t work, then i would assume that your server is blocking the incoming connection from on-rev. If that works, then livecode server seems to have a problem with ftp outgoing connections. Matthias Matthias Rebbe +49 5741 31 matthiasrebbe.eu <http://matthiasrebbe.eu/> Am 18.07.2017 um 10:38 schrieb Tim Selander via use-livecode <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>: Hi, My company gave up on hosting our email and website at on-rev.com <http://on-rev.com/> back when they were having lots of reliability problems. We're using a host in Japan; no LC server installed, nor is it installable. I still have our Founder's account on on-rev.com <http://on-rev.com/>, and use quite a few .lc scripts, calling them from iframes in web pages hosted on the new host. Our radio programs' mp3 files are stored on the new host. I want one of my scripts on on-rev.com <http://on-rev.com/> to get the directory listing of the mp3 files on the new host. The ftp command from LC tutorials works fine from LC desktop (Community edition, Mac) to get the filelist: put url "ftp://user:p...@domain.com/folder/ <ftp://user:p...@domain.com/folder/>" into myVariable Put when I call it from the server .lc script on on-rev, the result is: error Failed to connect to gmoserver.jp <http://gmoserver.jp/> port 21: Connection refused (gmoserver.jp <http://gmoserver.jp/> is our new host here in Japan.) Any ideas why the connection would be refused when coming from on-rev, but not LC desktop? Anyways around this? Thanks in advance. Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sending an FTP command from one web server to another?
Hi Matthias, Good idea. I just sent support an email asking to have ssh activated! I'll post again with results! Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan On 2017.07.18, 19:12, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode wrote: Do you have ssh access for your on-rev account? If not, ask support to enable it for you. Try to use ftp from the commandline, just to see if gmoserver.jp <http://gmoserver.jp/> accepts that connection. If that also doesn´t work, then i would assume that your server is blocking the incoming connection from on-rev. If that works, then livecode server seems to have a problem with ftp outgoing connections. Matthias Matthias Rebbe +49 5741 31 matthiasrebbe.eu <http://matthiasrebbe.eu/> Am 18.07.2017 um 10:38 schrieb Tim Selander via use-livecode <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>: Hi, My company gave up on hosting our email and website at on-rev.com <http://on-rev.com/> back when they were having lots of reliability problems. We're using a host in Japan; no LC server installed, nor is it installable. I still have our Founder's account on on-rev.com <http://on-rev.com/>, and use quite a few .lc scripts, calling them from iframes in web pages hosted on the new host. Our radio programs' mp3 files are stored on the new host. I want one of my scripts on on-rev.com <http://on-rev.com/> to get the directory listing of the mp3 files on the new host. The ftp command from LC tutorials works fine from LC desktop (Community edition, Mac) to get the filelist: put url "ftp://user:p...@domain.com/folder/ <ftp://user:p...@domain.com/folder/>" into myVariable Put when I call it from the server .lc script on on-rev, the result is: error Failed to connect to gmoserver.jp <http://gmoserver.jp/> port 21: Connection refused (gmoserver.jp <http://gmoserver.jp/> is our new host here in Japan.) Any ideas why the connection would be refused when coming from on-rev, but not LC desktop? Anyways around this? Thanks in advance. Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Sending an FTP command from one web server to another?
Hi, My company gave up on hosting our email and website at on-rev.com back when they were having lots of reliability problems. We're using a host in Japan; no LC server installed, nor is it installable. I still have our Founder's account on on-rev.com, and use quite a few .lc scripts, calling them from iframes in web pages hosted on the new host. Our radio programs' mp3 files are stored on the new host. I want one of my scripts on on-rev.com to get the directory listing of the mp3 files on the new host. The ftp command from LC tutorials works fine from LC desktop (Community edition, Mac) to get the filelist: put url "ftp://user:p...@domain.com/folder/; into myVariable Put when I call it from the server .lc script on on-rev, the result is: error Failed to connect to gmoserver.jp port 21: Connection refused (gmoserver.jp is our new host here in Japan.) Any ideas why the connection would be refused when coming from on-rev, but not LC desktop? Anyways around this? Thanks in advance. Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Goofy question #7234
Hi Richmond
This works (both scripts in the button):
on mouseUp
put goRed()
end mouseUp
function goRed
set the backGroundColor of card 1 to red
end goRed
I think the general idea is that a function returns information. So
date() returns the date. But just having a line "date()" in the script
causes an error because you haven't told it what to do with the info
being returned. So you need "put data()" and then the info will go to
the message box.
Your function doesn't return any data. That's your choice when you write
it. But the engine is still expecting a function to return info, so you
still have to say "put" trigger the function.
You could write your function with a parameter:
function goRed foo
set the backGroundColor of foo to red
end goRed
Then call the function like this:
put goRed("card 1")
put goRed("card 3")
etc., and the one function can be used to turn both card 1 and card 3
(and any other object you specify in foo) red.
Hope that helps.
Tim Selander
Tokyo, Japan
On 7/10/17, 15:48, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote:
I am obviously missing something . . .
. . . so badly so that I've been trawling Danny Goodman's "Complete"
HC 2 . . .
and NOT getting 'it' . . .
SO: one can set up a custom command:
on GoRed
set the backGroundColor of card 1 to red
end GoRed
and one can call it:
on mouseUp
do GoRed
end mouseUp
and one can set up a custom function:
function GoRed
set the backGroundColor of card 1 to red
end function
Now: is the reason I cannot call that function because it takes NO
parameters?
Richmond.
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Re: IP to decimal function?
OK, this "master library" is new info to me! Googled it, found a brief reference and download link in the forums. Will now have a look at it! Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan On 2017/05/16 0:01, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: I wrote something of the sort called IPCalc. It should be in the master library. Bob S On May 13, 2017, at 22:25 , Tim Selander via use-livecode <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: Hi I need to convert IP address from web logs to decimal for easier processing... Before I try to "reinvent the wheel" (and no doubt roll off a cliff) I'm wondering if anyone already has such a function they'd be willing to share? TIA Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: IP to decimal function?
Hi Richmond, Thanks for your stack! Wow! I'm in the process of testing and 'function-fying' it. I did google around and found pages like your java link... but my arithmetic skills are so basic, it all just looked like, well, Sanskrit.. ;-) Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan On 2017.05.14, 17:02, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: I almost never know anything, but I do know where to look to find out: https://www.mkyong.com/java/java-convert-ip-address-to-decimal-number/ Hope that spoils your Sunday :) Richmond. On 5/14/17 8:25 am, Tim Selander via use-livecode wrote: Hi I need to convert IP address from web logs to decimal for easier processing... Before I try to "reinvent the wheel" (and no doubt roll off a cliff) I'm wondering if anyone already has such a function they'd be willing to share? TIA Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
IP to decimal function?
Hi I need to convert IP address from web logs to decimal for easier processing... Before I try to "reinvent the wheel" (and no doubt roll off a cliff) I'm wondering if anyone already has such a function they'd be willing to share? TIA Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Messages sent while mouse is down?
Yes, that had occurred to me, but my explanation was too simplistic. While it is a Scrabble-esque game with tiles, the tiles are hexagons and are staggered on the board. (pic-- http://tinyurl.com/jjcqolm) That still might be calculate-able, but is beyond my math skills! Thanks, Tim On 2017.03.12, 10:00, Mike Bonner via use-livecode wrote: If the names of the tiles are numbered in a logical way, and only go horizontal, and vertical, then all you need to know is the start spot, and the end spot, and can fill in the gaps between. On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 4:06 PM, Quentin Long via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: sez Tim Selander <selan...@tkf.att.ne.jp>: I miss the Zynga "Pathwords" game on Facebook, so for my own amusement I'm trying to recreate it in Livecode. For those who don't know the game, it had a solid screenful of Scrabble-like lettered tiles. Click and drag the mouse through adjacent letters to make words. Without clicking, simply moving the mouse through the tiles (fields) triggers mouseenter, mouseleave, etc. which makes it easy to pick up the letters. But when the mouse is down, it seems mouseloc() is the only thing I can get. Using a variable what has all the field rectangles, I can use the mouseloc() to ultimately identify the field under the pointer, but it's too slow... Does a moving mouse with the button down trigger any other messages besides mouseloc()? I see that Mike Bonner has already provided a solution which seems to do what you want. But just in case there are other people out there who might need a different solution, here's my stab at it… If you have a "screenful of Scrabble-like lettered tiles", these "tiles" are presumably arranged in a rectangular grid, with neatly aligned rows and columns. If this is the case, the locations of the row-tiles are going to be separated by X number of pixels, such that row-tile 1 has X-coördinate A; row-tile 2 has X-coördinate (A + X); row-tile 3 has X-coordinate (A + 2*X); and so on. Column-tiles will work similarly. Their locations will be separated by Y number of pixels, such that column-tile 1 has Y coördinate B; column-tile 2 has Y coördinate (B + Y); column-tile 3 has Y coördinate (B + 2*Y); and so on. If the grid's horizontal spacing is identical to its vertical spacing, the separation-values X and Y will be the same, of course. Given the fact that pixels are not *necessarily* square, it would be imprudent to *assume* that the grid's horizontal and vertical separation-values are identical, and I will not make that assumption here. So. My solution to Tim Selander's problem completely ignores most of the mouse[whatever] messages, depending strictly on mouseLoc. Like so: local dX = 25 -- if the horizontal-spacing value is not 25, put the real value here local dY = 25 -- again, replace 25 with the real value as needed local TimeSlice = 50 -- how often, in milliseconds, the code checks the mouseLoc. adjust as needed for response time local GridLocPulse global GridCell = "1,1" on GridLoc if (GridLocPulse) then send GridLoc to me in TimeSlice milliseconds put the mouseLoc into ThisLoc put (1 + (item 1 of ThisLoc div dX)) into item 1 of GridCell -- may need tweaking to account for edge effects put (1 + (item 2 of ThisLoc div dY)) into item 2 of GridCell -- ditto end GridLoc on GridLocOn put true into GridLocPulse GridLoc end GridLocOn on GridLocOff put false into GridLocPulse end GridLocOff The above code can go into the script of the card where the tile-grid lives. Once every (TimeSlice) milliseconds, this code looks at the mouseLoc and converts the mouse coördinates into grid coördinates, which are stored in the global variable GridCell. GridCell being a global, its contents should be accessible to any handler in any script which includes the line "global GridCell". It's probably a good idea to *not* have the GridLoc handler burning clock-cycles *all the time*. Thus, the local variable GridLocPulse, and the subsidiary handlers GridLocOn and GridLocOff. GridLocOn activates the GridLoc handler, and GridLocOff turns GridLoc off. Hope this helps… "Bewitched" + "Charlie's Angels" - Charlie = "At Arm's Length" Read the webcomic at [ http://www.atarmslength.net ]! If you like "At Arm's Length", support it at [ http://www.patreon.com/ DarkwingDude ]. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___
Re: Messages sent while mouse is down?
Oh ho! That does it, Mike. Many thanks! Tim On 2017.03.11, 18:35, Mike Bonner via use-livecode wrote: accidental send before complete. *sigh* on mousemove put 1 & cr & 2 into objectList -- just using control number for the quick example if the mouse is down then repeat for each line tLine in objectList if within(control tLine,the mouseloc) then put tLine into tResult exit repeat end if end repeat end if if tResult is not empty then put tResult else put "no result" end if end mousemove On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 2:30 AM, Mike Bonner <bonnm...@gmail.com> wrote: mousemove works. It does appear that "mousecontrol" doesn't fire when the mouse is down so that is out. You can also use "within" which is pretty fast. Have a variable with a list of the objects you wish to check against (or array, or whatever) on mousemove if the mouse is down then repeat for each line tLine in objectList if within(tLine,the mouseloc) then put tLine into tResult exit repeat end repeat end if if tResult end mousemove On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 1:02 AM, Tim Selander via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: I miss the Zynga "Pathwords" game on Facebook, so for my own amusement I'm trying to recreate it in Livecode. For those who don't know the game, it had a solid screenful of Scrabble-like lettered tiles. Click and drag the mouse through adjacent letters to make words. Without clicking, simply moving the mouse through the tiles (fields) triggers mouseenter, mouseleave, etc. which makes it easy to pick up the letters. But when the mouse is down, it seems mouseloc() is the only thing I can get. Using a variable what has all the field rectangles, I can use the mouseloc() to ultimately identify the field under the pointer, but it's too slow... Does a moving mouse with the button down trigger any other messages besides mouseloc()? Thanks, Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Messages sent while mouse is down?
I miss the Zynga "Pathwords" game on Facebook, so for my own amusement I'm trying to recreate it in Livecode. For those who don't know the game, it had a solid screenful of Scrabble-like lettered tiles. Click and drag the mouse through adjacent letters to make words. Without clicking, simply moving the mouse through the tiles (fields) triggers mouseenter, mouseleave, etc. which makes it easy to pick up the letters. But when the mouse is down, it seems mouseloc() is the only thing I can get. Using a variable what has all the field rectangles, I can use the mouseloc() to ultimately identify the field under the pointer, but it's too slow... Does a moving mouse with the button down trigger any other messages besides mouseloc()? Thanks, Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Cancelling a script??
Mike, that did the trick. I'll get into the same coding habit. Thanks! Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan On 2017.02.11, 0:09, Mike Bonner via use-livecode wrote: If the loop is tight enough, the keypress never gets through. I've just got into the habit of putting an escape hatch into loops that can go wrong. Something like: if the environment is "development" and the shiftkey is down then exit to top (or if you want the user to have access to the same exit, don't check for the environment) Then all you have to do is hold shift and the loop will exit. On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 8:00 AM, Tim Selander via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: The documentation says Cmd + . should stop a running script. I haveset the allowinterrupts to true in my openstack script. But if I get into a long repeat loop, cmd + . does not stop anything. Community v8.1, OSX 10.9. Any advice appreciated. Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Cancelling a script??
The documentation says Cmd + . should stop a running script. I haveset the allowinterrupts to true in my openstack script. But if I get into a long repeat loop, cmd + . does not stop anything. Community v8.1, OSX 10.9. Any advice appreciated. Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Using LC server to check for existence of mp3 on our web server?
Phil and Mike, Thanks for your pointers -- both look like they
will work. Also in continuing to poke around the web, I also
found this function that works:
function qrtHTTP_FileExists pURL
breakpoint
local tSocket, tPath, tHeaders, tCommand
set the itemDelimiter to "/"
-- extract host IP address and file path from the URL
put item 3 of pURL into tHost
if tHost contains ":" then
put tHost into tSocket
else
put tHost & ":80" into tSocket
end if
put "/" & item 4 to -1 of pURL into tPath
-- build the command
put "HEAD" && tPath && "HTTP/1.1" into tCommand
-- build the http headers
put "Connection: Close" & CRLF & \
"Host:" && tHost & CRLF & \
"User-Agent: Revolution (" & the version & ")" into tHeaders
-- open the socket, write he request and read the response
open socket tSocket
write tCommand & CRLF & tHeaders & CRLF & CRLF to socket tSocket
read from socket tSocket until CRLF
put word 2 of it into tResultCode
close socket tSocket
-- return our interpretation of the result code
return (tResultCode = 200)
end qrtHTTP_FileExists
It's working for me but now I can't re-find it so I can't
credit whoever wrote it!
Copying here for posterity!
Tim Selander
Tokyo, Japan
On 2017.01.22, 19:09, Mike Bonner via use-livecode wrote:
If you have php on your second server, and don't have lc, you can do a
check with php similar to what you're talking about. This is untested but..
If you have the following php file (perhaps named checkforfile.php) on the
alternate server, and send it a get request containing the path to the file
youre looking for, it will return true or false if it exists. This is
obviously an extremely bare example. You'd want to make sure the get
contains "myfile" and handle that too, as well as any other issues. In
addition, you would probably want to limit the requests to only allowed
areas and file types in the php script.
From the lc side of things you could do something like this..
http://your.alternateserver.com/checkforfile.php?myfile=theFile.mp3;
if it is true then
put "http://my.programserver.com/theFile.mp3>"
else
put "program not found."
end if
?>
Of course if you DO have lc on the program server you can do the same type
of check and "put" true or false just like you did with php. (Also can be
done with javascript, asp, etc)
On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 2:16 AM, Phil Davis via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
Hi Tim,
Here is a very simplistic way of checking for a file on your server. It
assumes your mp3 files are in a 'programs' folder that resides in the
'document root' folder. This script as it is here would be in a .lc file on
your server. You pass it a filename in the url and it tells you if the file
is in the programs folder or not.
So the url would look something like this:
http://my.programserver.com/check.lc?1234.mp3
The text of the 'check.lc' file:
This is most likely not exactly what you need, but maybe it'll give you a
starting point.
Thanks -
Phil Davis
On 1/21/17 11:36 PM, Tim Selander via use-livecode wrote:
Hi,
On-rev.com hosting, using LC server to present a list of our AM/FM radio
programs for people to listening to on-demand.
Out of a month's 20 programs, 3 or 4 might not get uploaded due to
copyright issues, etc. Also, mp3's are not on the on-rev.com server, but
another hosting service we use as well.
Filenaming is standardized, so I know the list of programs. I want to hit
the server, if the mp3 files exists, present it as an http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
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Using LC server to check for existence of mp3 on our web server?
Hi, On-rev.com hosting, using LC server to present a list of our AM/FM radio programs for people to listening to on-demand. Out of a month's 20 programs, 3 or 4 might not get uploaded due to copyright issues, etc. Also, mp3's are not on the on-rev.com server, but another hosting service we use as well. Filenaming is standardized, so I know the list of programs. I want to hit the server, if the mp3 files exists, present it as an program not available" message. If I wanted to check on the existence of a small text file, it would be fast enough for me to just get it, put it into a variable and see if the variable has anything in it. But mp3's are too big, so too slow. Locally, I would simply write "if there is a file 'filename'..." -- what's the equivalent command for checking on existence of a file on a server? Thanks in advance. Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: SSL?
Ah, there it is! Have sent an enquiry to sales. Thanks for the pointer, Dave. Tim On 2016/12/26 8:54, Dave Kilroy wrote: if you log in to your LiveCode account, click on ‘Hosting’ and then scroll down you should see it listed... ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LC Server: Getting a file list when filenames use UTF8
Good news! Thanks, Lyn. Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan On 2016/10/18 18:22, Lyn Teyla wrote: I opened a bug report in August concerning this issue: http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18202 Lyn Tim Selander wrote: Thanks for confirming that for me Ralf. I wonder if the team can look into this Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan On 2016/10/17 20:02, Ralf Bitter wrote: Seems that I can confirm your findings. Did a test on diesel using server version 8.1.1-rc-2. If there is a file "こんにちは.txt" the file list retrieved is empty. To get a file list I have to remove the Japanese file. Ralf On 17.10.2016, at 10:21, Tim Selander <selan...@tkf.att.ne.jp> wrote: Hi, Using LC server as installed in my on-rev account. This script Only returns files with English filenames to the resulting web page. Japanese (utf8) filenames are ignored. If I change one of the Japanese filenames to English, then it appears. If I change it back to Japanese, it reverts to not appearing. Any hints? Thank you. Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LC Server: Getting a file list when filenames use UTF8
Thanks for confirming that for me Ralf. I wonder if the team can look into this Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan On 2016/10/17 20:02, Ralf Bitter wrote: Seems that I can confirm your findings. Did a test on diesel using server version 8.1.1-rc-2. If there is a file "こんにちは.txt" the file list retrieved is empty. To get a file list I have to remove the Japanese file. Ralf On 17.10.2016, at 10:21, Tim Selander <selan...@tkf.att.ne.jp> wrote: Hi, Using LC server as installed in my on-rev account. This script Only returns files with English filenames to the resulting web page. Japanese (utf8) filenames are ignored. If I change one of the Japanese filenames to English, then it appears. If I change it back to Japanese, it reverts to not appearing. Any hints? Thank you. Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
LC Server: Getting a file list when filenames use UTF8
Hi, Using LC server as installed in my on-rev account. This script Only returns files with English filenames to the resulting web page. Japanese (utf8) filenames are ignored. If I change one of the Japanese filenames to English, then it appears. If I change it back to Japanese, it reverts to not appearing. Any hints? Thank you. Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Japanese (unicode?) text problem
Hi Nicolas, Finally something I can answer! I have found that you need to use 'open file' because that let's you specify the file's encoding. Assume the path to your file is in tFile, these lines should work: open file tFile for utf8 read read from file tFile until end put it into fld "indices" close file tFile If there is a more elegant way, I'm sure the pros will chime in! Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan On 2016/09/21 13:30, Nicolas Cueto wrote: With Notepad++, created a new file, pasted English and Japanese text, set encoding to UTF-8, then saved as .txt. (Confirmed the file by opening with Windows' "Notepad".) Next, in LC8.1 ran this button script: on mouseUp put empty into field "indices" set the itemdel to quote put item 2 of the long name of this stack into tDataPath set the itemdel to "/" delete the last item of tDataPath put "/Data/bilingual.txt" after tDataPath put "file:" & tDataPath into tURL put url tURL into field "indices" end mouseUp The text appears in the field, but with Japanese text garbled. What am I doing wrong? Thanks. -- Nicolas Cueto ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: System date
This thread has been instructive, as I've had the same grief as Antti. I've been using dateItems for all my date stuff, and reconstructing my own Japanese dates. However, I didn't know about the useSystemDate command. It's working great here. Mac OS10.11.5, system running in Japanese, LC 8.0.2 community edition. This info doesn't help Antti much, though sorry. But thanks for asking the question! Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan On 2016/09/07 14:02, Antti Ilola wrote: Then maybe I have problems on my machines( MacBook Pro 2007 and iMac 2010), because I have used different version of MacOs's and different versions of Livecode and both of your scripts and the answer is all the same - english date. My computers primary language is Finnish. Regards Antti 2016-09-06 21:36 GMT+03:00 Richmond <richmondmathew...@gmail.com>: You should have taken a bit longer to read the documention, this: on mouseUp set the useSystemDate to true put the long date into fld "fDATE" end mouseUp returned this: вторник, септември 6, 2016 as I am using a machine running Xubuntu 16.04 64-bit with the system date system running in Bulgarian - mainly because I live and work on Bulgaria. Richmond. On 6.09.2016 20:21, Antti Ilola wrote: Is it the time to you to get the system date work.I have done everything I found your guide, but no avail, every time english date. I made it a bug report since version 6 was announced. and still it doesn't work. Now I'm using Mac OS 10.10 and 10.11 in Finnish. Today I tired SperCard for fun and even it I got finnish date without any larger measures, just "answer the date" and that's it. And it is not the only software which understands the finnish date, for example Xcode and Xojo knows how it should be display. You made many wondrous things into your software, but simple as date won't work. I think there are many people in this world who use different date form than english. Antti ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: The Joy of Removing Features - Part 2: Finding / removing duplicate files / photos.
Very enlightening. Thanks for taking the time to share this with us. Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan On 2016/08/19 8:20, Alex Tweedly wrote: Part 2 of a 4-part series on developing simple apps for photo management and viewing. [ previously ... Part 1 described the justification and development of a very simple photo viewing app ] The next issue to deal with is the run-away number of photos, and the amount of disk space taken up by them. I strongly suspect that is at least partly due to my casual (some would say "disorganized") approach to managing the photos, and the multiple computers they originated from and are kept on (my desktop, laptop, daughter's laptop, back-up disks, safe copies on other external drives, USB drives previously used to store / transfer folders of photos, etc.) So the next step is to find and eliminate (or at least reduce) duplicated photos. Of course, I could simply Google "remove duplicate photos mac" and follow some of the 382,000 resulting links - but where's the fun in that :-) At least some of those apps do, or claim to do, amazing things - find different resolution or different quality versions of the same photo, etc. - but I don't feel a need to look for those; I just need, initially at least, to find the simple, exact duplicates. To give some context, I have been using a sample subset of 16,000 out of my approx 55,00 photos; these are mostly low/med resolution (i.e. iPhone or old digital camera JPEGs, between 200Kb and 1.5Mb each). However. my new camera is rather more resource-hungry (JPEGs are 24Mb or so - hence the urgency to actually implement some of these ideas that I have been kicking around for a long time :-) I have a variety of schemes in mind to speed up the process, though each of them needs to be verified for effectiveness, or indeed necessity. The basic outline *was* 1. walk through to collect all folder names (i.e. the complete tree(s) within the folder(s) specified by the user) 2. visit each folder in turn to collect details of all (relevant) files - with optimizations for folders/files that haven't changed since the info was previously collected 3. partition the files by size; and then reduce the list of files to the potential duplicates 4. further reduce by file signature (i.e. a small sample of say 12 bytes from pre-specified locations) 5. get the md5hash of remaining files, and look for duplicates 6. present the data to the user (!?) However, some simple benchmarking suggested that this was unnecessarily complicated - i.e. I can again remove features, even before they have been specified or implemented. The task of detecting and avoiding redundant work in step 2a is not terribly complicated - but it's definitely the most brain-taxing part of the whole problem - and in any case, won't apply to the first time the app is used. So that part can be delayed at least until I find out how slow the process is - i.e. hopefully forever. The need for using MD5 hashes, rather than simply comparing the files completely is also questionable. It turns out that calculating an MD5 hash of a file takes roughly 10x as long as comparing that file to another identical one (i.e. the worst case for comparison - comparing to a differing file would complete more quickly). So step 5 can also be delayed (or avoided) until we determine how often it is likely we will be matching larger sets of files. Similarly, step 4 can be delayed (or avoided) until we see how well the file size works as a partition - and it turns out to do a good job. Of the 16,073 files, there are 14652 different sizes; of these, 1400 sizes have 2 matching files while 10 sizes have 3 files, and the remainder have only a single file. And it turns out that all 1410 of those are genuine duplicates - i.e. there are no cases of files which have the same size without actually being the same; therefore size is a very effective discriminator for photo files. Even better - running this simplified algorithm on my 16,000 sample takes about 20 seconds on my aging Macbook Pro. So I can indeed eliminate all those extra features in steps 2a, 4 and 5. Part 3 of this series will describe what I did for step 6 above - i.e. how to present this data to the user, how to make it easy to eliminate any duplicates found and how to not make it easy to inadvertently delete files you shouldn't. Part 4 will (probably) describe an app for removing uninteresting photos. And Part 5 will (perhaps) describe whether or how I found it necessary to improve the image viewer app described in part 1. The increase in average file size from 0.5 Mb to 24 Mb means that the time to transition from one photo to the next has gone from "feels instant" to "hmmm, feels fairly quick". I'll decide from using the app regularly over the next week or two whether "fairly quick" is good enough, or whether it's worth implementing pre-caching for the adjacent photo(s) to get back the "instant&q
Re: opening utf8 text file
The hyphen and the quotes made it work. Many thanks, Dar! Tim On 2016/06/16 11:10, Dar Scott wrote: The encoding names are found with textEncode and textDecode. There you can see the name needs a hyphen. Try "UTF-8". (You can also open the file for binary or use binfifle: and then use textDecode.) On Jun 15, 2016, at 7:54 PM, Tim Selander <selan...@tkf.att.ne.jp> wrote: LC 8, Dictionary says it can be done, but does not give a sample. No syntax I've tried works. How do you open a file encoded in UTF8? open file for UTF8 read does not work. Thanks. Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
opening utf8 text file
LC 8, Dictionary says it can be done, but does not give a sample. No syntax I've tried works. How do you open a file encoded in UTF8? open file for UTF8 read does not work. Thanks. Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Getting a framegrab of the video in a player
Found the old stack! FWIW, assuming some future person needs the same thing, export snapshot from player 1 to file (variable for path) & the currenttime of player 1 & ".jpg" as JPEG And then I re-imported the jpeg into a datagrid Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan On 2016.05.28, 22:01, Paul Dupuis wrote: On 5/28/2016 8:46 AM, Tim Selander wrote: Hi, Once upon a time I am almost positive that I could grab a screenshot of the current video frame in a player, and paste it into a scrolling field. But I've forgotten how, and no scouring of the dictionary or google help. Can anyone tell me how it's done? many thanks. The only way I have found is using "export snapshot" from the player object. You first want to lock the screen and hide the controller though so you only get the current frame. if the player border is an issue, use the 'from rect' form of export snapshot with the player's rect less the borderWidth on all sides. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Getting a framegrab of the video in a player
Hi Paul, Thanks. That seems to work... putting it into a text fld results in the gibberish I'd expect from a jpeg in ascii form. Putting it into an image object shows the QT player frame and controls, but not the video frame itself... Exporting to a file, a la the dictionary, didn't seem to do anything. No error reported, but no file made either. Anyway, progress! Tim On 2016.05.28, 22:01, Paul Dupuis wrote: On 5/28/2016 8:46 AM, Tim Selander wrote: Hi, Once upon a time I am almost positive that I could grab a screenshot of the current video frame in a player, and paste it into a scrolling field. But I've forgotten how, and no scouring of the dictionary or google help. Can anyone tell me how it's done? many thanks. The only way I have found is using "export snapshot" from the player object. You first want to lock the screen and hide the controller though so you only get the current frame. if the player border is an issue, use the 'from rect' form of export snapshot with the player's rect less the borderWidth on all sides. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Getting a framegrab of the video in a player
Hi, Once upon a time I am almost positive that I could grab a screenshot of the current video frame in a player, and paste it into a scrolling field. But I've forgotten how, and no scouring of the dictionary or google help. Can anyone tell me how it's done? many thanks. Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Default tool on open stack
Aha! That makes sense. The IDE is un-doing the command... OK, not a bug -- just a quirk. ;-) Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan On 16/04/13 1:13, J. Landman Gay wrote: On April 12, 2016 8:27:15 AM Tim Selander <selan...@tkf.att.ne.jp> wrote: However, after reading some of the various other comments, including Jacqueline's here, it strikes me that this has to be considered some kind of bug, doesn't it? A valid command (choose browse tool) in a valid handler (openstack) does not work!? I'm not sure it's actually a bug. The command does work, but the IDE chooses the edit tool late in its startup sequence, which undoes the earlier command. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Default tool on open stack
Hi again, Basically, my problem is solved with Peter's work-around. However, after reading some of the various other comments, including Jacqueline's here, it strikes me that this has to be considered some kind of bug, doesn't it? A valid command (choose browse tool) in a valid handler (openstack) does not work!? Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan On 2016/04/12, 9:50, J. Landman Gay wrote: It works if you send the instruction a few milliseconds after opencard finishes. Basically the whole IDE has to be done with its stuff first. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On April 11, 2016 6:43:23 PM Roger Guay <i...@mac.com> wrote: That does not work for me in v 7.1.2 but I wish it did!! I think this should be a LC Preference setting. Roger On Apr 11, 2016, at 4:23 PM, Peter Bogdanoff <bogdan...@me.com> wrote: What I do is—in the openStack handler I place: if the environment is "development" then choose browse tool end if Seems to be reliable. Peter Bogdanoff UCLA On Apr 11, 2016, at 4:17 PM, Tim Selander <selan...@tkf.att.ne.jp> wrote: When I open a stack, in v7 or v8, it always comes up with the Edit Tool chosen. In the openstack handler (stack script) and opencard handler (card script), I have "choose browse tool" but it has no effect. I save the stacks with the browse tool chosen, and quit. Re-open and the Edit tool is active. Why??? Any help appreciated. Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Default tool on open stack
Hi! That worked! Many thanks, Peter. Though I agree with Roger, the default tool should be a preference somewhere. I'm making little utilities to use at work, and the staff that use them are always befuddled when they try to click a field to enter text, but the whole field gets selected and pushed around the screen instead. Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan On 16/04/12 8:23, Peter Bogdanoff wrote: What I do is—in the openStack handler I place: if the environment is "development" then choose browse tool end if Seems to be reliable. Peter Bogdanoff UCLA On Apr 11, 2016, at 4:17 PM, Tim Selander <selan...@tkf.att.ne.jp> wrote: When I open a stack, in v7 or v8, it always comes up with the Edit Tool chosen. In the openstack handler (stack script) and opencard handler (card script), I have "choose browse tool" but it has no effect. I save the stacks with the browse tool chosen, and quit. Re-open and the Edit tool is active. Why??? Any help appreciated. Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Default tool on open stack
When I open a stack, in v7 or v8, it always comes up with the Edit Tool chosen. In the openstack handler (stack script) and opencard handler (card script), I have "choose browse tool" but it has no effect. I save the stacks with the browse tool chosen, and quit. Re-open and the Edit tool is active. Why??? Any help appreciated. Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Programmatically determine the average greyscale
Would it be better to do what we do in the video world? Put a black edge on the "Realm of Knowledge" text. Any video editor can do that, but you can fake a reasonable fascimile put using the text twice, in layers. Top layer is the text in white. Bottom layer in black. Shift the black text down and to the right a couple of pixels. Puts a black edge on the bottom-right of the white text. Improves readability. You can even blur the black text a bit to make the effect a bit more subtle. Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan On 2/20/16, 11:32, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote: HH You are right of course. one pixel was an expediency and certainly does not cover all cases. In fact it is a rather weak algorithm as you can see here: https://www.evernote.com/l/ABHZ6MzemNNJY6SXFJ3HTMb7afCnCElhYfE the text field crosses a blown out highlight (white hair) over to a dark background. in a case like this a midtone is usually all one can decide on. in this case 220,220,220 at 200,200,200 we start to hit the same level as the background. in this particular photo: https://www.evernote.com/l/ABFY-T8OCqNDYK4QOed3qr0G6GfqZUXWjEo For this particular context I'm actually happy with the "homeKey" field being subdued. but in other cases one wants a stronger presence https://www.evernote.com/l/ABE267idXlBHrY4Xs4ND27ziH1UjmGtU-eY Musings: A random algorithm also does not help us out either. In this "FlipBoard" model/copy-cat (which is what I'm aiming for in V1) image will be dynamically replaced on every return to the same card, not only per session, but even if the user just leaves the card and returns. "Only God will know for sure" what the luminance of the background will be under the field, because I'll be dynamically adding more and more images in the category over time... if we want to get really "manic" (your term ha!) we could write an analyzer to scan every pixel across the whole area underneath the field. but I worry this will take up so much CPU time, especially on Android that it will delay rendering the card. In print we often decide to put a background frame behind the type and change the opacity of the area to give some weight to the background, but on these small mobile spaces, that just adds more noise to the design I may settle finally on 200,200,200 for all and forget the attempt to analyze the background... though it was a very useful exercise and I have other context where I can and will use this new "skill" FlipBoard uses white and I guess they must have a staff of 50 people who curate every image and crop to make sure there is dark matter underneat their type... "not gonna happen here" BR On February 19, 2016 at 11:05:52 AM, [-hh] (h...@livecode.org(mailto:h...@livecode.org)) wrote: BR, you do estimate the luminance of a 120x175 = 21000 px region on base of the evaluation of ONE single deterministic pixel? Accepted, of course, but then it may be better, from a probabilistic point of view, not to take "the" pixel (40,40) but *any* randomly chosen pixel of that region. You could do for that: set randomseed to (char -8 to -1 of the millisecs) put 19+random(120) into pX ; put 19+random(175) into pY ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Charset problems with .lc web page
Hi Peter, Thanks for the tip. However, it didn't seem to do anything for me. According to the trick Alex told me about getting the server version, the On-rev account I'm using has livecode-server-6.6.2 installed. FWIW, Kojima-san's tip worked great; it's in another post in this thread. Appreciate everyone's help with this! Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan On 1/4/16, 20:39, Peter TB Brett wrote: On 24/12/2015 07:55, Tim Selander wrote: > Dear list, > > I'm having trouble making a .lc web pages correctly show the charset. > > I have two test files: > http://www.pba.on-rev.com/5_today.lc > http://www.pba.on-rev.com/5_today.irev > > They are identical except for the .lc/.irev file extensions, and also > the and tags in the html. > > The .irev file correctly shows Japanese UTF8, the .lc file does not. > > Anyone else having problems with this? Can .lc files not handle charset > correctly? Hi Tim, I think that if you put a comment like: -- encoding: utf8 in the first line of the .lc file (or the second line if you have a shebang), the server engine will treat the .lc file as UTF-8 text rather than native text. On the other hand, that solution might not work except in LiveCode 6.7 or later. I'm not sure! Peter ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Charset problems with .lc web page
Kojima-san, Thank you! Your instructions worked perfectly. For the others: 1) --> must be the first line of the .lc 2) set the outputTextEncoding to native --> must be the first line of the first script in the file If you put "set the outputTextEncoding to native" later in the script, UTF-8 above that line will be garbled; after that line it will show properly. Very interesting. Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan On 1/4/16, 21:06, Kenji Kojima wrote: Tim, The .irev file correctly shows Japanese UTF8, the .lc file does not. I wrote about it in Japanese. http://kenjikojima.com/basic_iRev/main/rev11.html http://kenjikojima.com/basic_iRev/ -- Kenji Kojima / 小島健治 http://www.kenjikojima.com/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Charset problems with .lc web page
Hi Lyn, When I first tried your tip, it didn't work for me. But when I looked at the tutorial you linked to, I saw that the was the very first line of the .lc file, before or anything else. When I tried that, it worked great! I had been inserting the command: put header "Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8" into the first line of my Tim Selander wrote: 1) --> must be the first line of the .lc 2) set the outputTextEncoding to native --> must be the first line of the first script in the file If you put "set the outputTextEncoding to native" later in the script, UTF-8 above that line will be garbled; after that line it will show properly. This can get unnecessarily convoluted if you have to keep alternating between "native" and "utf-8" outputTextEncodings between different blocks of LiveCode script and HTML. I can imagine that one would tend to forget to change the outputTextEncoding somewhere along the way. Did you run into any problems with the "put header" method that I had suggested, where you only need to insert a single line at the top of the file? I use the single-line solution and it works perfectly fine on many versions of revServer and LiveCode Server, including 3.5, 6.6.2 (the one you’re using), 6.7.8, 7.1.1, and 8.0.0 DP 12. This article on HostM.com also mentions the same solution. Perhaps it explains it better than I did: https://www.hostm.com/tutorials/livecode/utf-8-output Lyn ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
More questions regarding Server oddities
I'm continuing to work on a .irev web page, with varying success.
On-Rev account, server sage,
software:/usr/local/cpanel/cgi-sys/ireviam-engine according to
the tip Alex gave me earlier.
Brief description of page's function:
1) Load static .csv file from web server into a variable. This is
a list of radio programs, the data is simply 3 items: Broadcast
date, Program Title and Host.
2) Get today's date from the server.
3) Using the date, find today's program in variable vlist, show
the broadcast date, the program Title, the Host.
4) Again using the date, fetch the appropriate mp3 filename from
our web server and plug it into the audio tag's src.
Extremely simple, no css or formatting of any kind. Just trying
to get the three items of data on the screen and load the audio
player with the correct mp3.
Was working great, and I was plugging in test dates...
When suddenly it stopped reading in the csv file. The command is:
put URL "http://pba.on-rev.com/ynh5list_UTF8.txt; into vlist
Instead of the data, vlist contains the html 404 page not found
error.
But the file is there.
Copy and paste the url into the browser, and the text loads up.
The csv file is in the very same directory as the .irev file
(http://www.pba.on-rev.com/ynh5today.irev). Both are in the root
of the public_html folder. But the {put URL
"http://pba.on-rev.com/ynh5list_UTF8.txt; into vlist} command
returns a 404 error.
Moved the csv file to two other web servers, On-Rev's deisel, and
a Japanese web host I use.
put URL etc. using the Japanese web host also fails. (could
not connect to server)
put URL etc. using deisel DOES WORK.
Thought maybe Safari was acting up, so tried Chrome and Firefox.
Same problem.
I'm puzzled.
Suddently, "Put URL..." can't find the file, but the browser can.
(For what it's worth, also tried "Get URL" with same results.
Not related to browser software
Non- on-rev web server fails
Sage on-rev server fails
Deisel on-rev server succeeds (for now?)
Could this be some kind of latency problem? Is some kind of
'wait' period needed?
Long time HC scripter, not a professional programmer....
Any tips appreciated.
Tim Selander
Tokyo, Japan
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Re: More questions regarding Server oddities
Thanks all! Just to re-cap, I'm having two problems on this little project. 1) Showing UTF-8 correctly. I have "solved" this by using the older revolution server that On-Rev provides. 2) My text list of programs, from which I retrieve program title and host, suddenly 'disappeared' as far as the script is concerned. Tried Lyn's and Mike's suggestion to access the file directly (didn't know you could do that!) and it is working again! Just in case those curious would like to see the problem, here is the script. It now dumps the contents of vlist; of course that will be cleaned up. But I will leave that script as it is now on the server for awhile Not sure what will happen with linewraps, but here goes* put "The command put URL 'http://pba.on-rev.com/ynh5list_UTF8.txt' into vlist results in vlist containing this: " put URL "http://pba.on-rev.com/ynh5list_UTF8.txt; into vlist put vlist put URL "binfile:ynh5list_UTF8.txt" into vlist put vlist --calculate date and time for Japan put the date && the time into vdate convert vdate to dateitems add 8 to item 4 of vdate convert vdate to dateitems --If date is Sunday, change to prev Saturday (not aired on Sundays) if last item of vdate is "1" then subtract 1 from item 3 of vdate convert vdate to dateitems --create a variable with the broadcast date in FileMaker format (program list exported from Filemaker) put item 1 of vdate & "/" & item 2 of vdate & "/" & item 3 of vdate into vFMdate --get today's program information from CSV list put line lineoffset(vFMdate,vlist) of vlist into vtoday --add "0" to single digit days and months if length(item 2 of vdate) = 1 then put "0" before item 2 of vdate if length(item 3 of vdate) = 1 then put "0" before item 3 of vdate if vtoday is empty then put "番組を見つかりませんでした。申し訳ありません。" into vtoday else put item 1 of vtoday into vHosobi put item 2 of vtoday into vTitle put item 3 of vtoday into vHost replace quote with empty in vHosobi replace quote with empty in vTitle replace quote with empty in vHost put "http://pba-net.com/radio/05/yono; & item 1 of vdate & "_" & item 2 of vdate & item 3 of vdate & ".mp3" into vfile end if put vHosobi & "" put vTitle & "" put vHost & "" put vfile & "" ?> controls='' preload='metadata'> Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan On 12/26/15, 6:52, Peter W A Wood wrote: Lyn On 26 Dec 2015, at 05:34, Lyn Teyla <lyn.te...@gmail.com> wrote: 6.6.2 is not the latest version of LiveCode Server. The suggestion that I had put forth regarding the original issue was for Tim to perform both of the following: 1. Use the "put header" line provided; I don’t think the problem is related to the HTTP Header. It is the same for both Tim’s rev page and his lc page: and 2. Utilize any one of the latest versions of LiveCode: 6.7.8, 7.1.1 or 8.0.0dp12. That would indeed fix the original issue. Tim doesn’t really have a choice over which version of the server to use with the On-Rev service. The version is chosen by LiveCode. I suspect Tim will need to wait until LiveCode update the server before porting his scripts to .lc Regards Peter ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
TOO Bizarre Re: More questions regarding Server oddities
Ok, without touching a thing in the script/.irev file, it is NOW once again correctly retrieving the file from On-rev's sage server using put URL "http://pba.on-rev.com/ynh5list_UTF8.txt; into vlist But it is still not retrieving the file from our Japan-based web host. (.irev web page file still on On-Rev, of course. Data file only on another server.) So, logically, the problem must be some kind of server connection problem?? Which argues for continuing to use Lyn & Mike's direct access method... no http involved. But it makes no sense to me. It is this kind of thing that has my love-hate relationship with computers tilting towards hate! What other industry gets away with selling us a product the inexplicably stops working, then starts working again? If my refrigerator did that, I'd dump it back on GE's doorstep and get my money back. :-) Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan On 12/26/15, 9:35, Tim Selander wrote: Thanks all! Just to re-cap, I'm having two problems on this little project. 1) Showing UTF-8 correctly. I have "solved" this by using the older revolution server that On-Rev provides. 2) My text list of programs, from which I retrieve program title and host, suddenly 'disappeared' as far as the script is concerned. Tried Lyn's and Mike's suggestion to access the file directly (didn't know you could do that!) and it is working again! Just in case those curious would like to see the problem, here is the script. It now dumps the contents of vlist; of course that will be cleaned up. But I will leave that script as it is now on the server for awhile Not sure what will happen with linewraps, but here goes* put "The command put URL 'http://pba.on-rev.com/ynh5list_UTF8.txt' into vlist results in vlist containing this: " put URL "http://pba.on-rev.com/ynh5list_UTF8.txt; into vlist put vlist put URL "binfile:ynh5list_UTF8.txt" into vlist put vlist --calculate date and time for Japan put the date && the time into vdate convert vdate to dateitems add 8 to item 4 of vdate convert vdate to dateitems --If date is Sunday, change to prev Saturday (not aired on Sundays) if last item of vdate is "1" then subtract 1 from item 3 of vdate convert vdate to dateitems --create a variable with the broadcast date in FileMaker format (program list exported from Filemaker) put item 1 of vdate & "/" & item 2 of vdate & "/" & item 3 of vdate into vFMdate --get today's program information from CSV list put line lineoffset(vFMdate,vlist) of vlist into vtoday --add "0" to single digit days and months if length(item 2 of vdate) = 1 then put "0" before item 2 of vdate if length(item 3 of vdate) = 1 then put "0" before item 3 of vdate if vtoday is empty then put "番組を見つかりませんでした。申し訳ありません。" into vtoday else put item 1 of vtoday into vHosobi put item 2 of vtoday into vTitle put item 3 of vtoday into vHost replace quote with empty in vHosobi replace quote with empty in vTitle replace quote with empty in vHost put "http://pba-net.com/radio/05/yono; & item 1 of vdate & "_" & item 2 of vdate & item 3 of vdate & ".mp3" into vfile end if put vHosobi & "" put vTitle & "" put vHost & "" put vfile & "" ?> controls='' preload='metadata'> Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan On 12/26/15, 6:52, Peter W A Wood wrote: Lyn On 26 Dec 2015, at 05:34, Lyn Teyla <lyn.te...@gmail.com> wrote: 6.6.2 is not the latest version of LiveCode Server. The suggestion that I had put forth regarding the original issue was for Tim to perform both of the following: 1. Use the "put header" line provided; I don’t think the problem is related to the HTTP Header. It is the same for both Tim’s rev page and his lc page: and 2. Utilize any one of the latest versions of LiveCode: 6.7.8, 7.1.1 or 8.0.0dp12. That would indeed fix the original issue. Tim doesn’t really have a choice over which version of the server to use with the On-Rev service. The version is chosen by LiveCode. I suspect Tim will need to wait until LiveCode update the server before porting his scripts to .lc Regards Peter ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Charset problems with .lc web page
Hi Alex, Thanks. I added http://www.pba.on-rev.com/5_today.lc;] & "" & CR ?> and also " & CR ?> in the script but it didn't return any info. I'm using On-Rev, the server is sage -- so whatever installs they have is what I'm using. I do find it curious that the older .irev works while .lc does not! Tim On 15/12/24 17:18, Alex Tweedly wrote: Hi Tim, I'm afraid I know little or nothing about charsets, so I can't directly help :-) The difference between .irev and .lc is which version of the server engine they are running - and obviously that depends on your server setup. So, to help with answering this, we (might) need to know which versions are being used on your server. You could add put $_SERVER[" SCRIPT_FILENAME"] & "" & CR Presumably it will be a pre-Unicode and a post-Unicode version - but knowing which ones might help someone answer your question. -- Alex. On 24/12/2015 07:55, Tim Selander wrote: Dear list, I'm having trouble making a .lc web pages correctly show the charset. I have two test files: http://www.pba.on-rev.com/5_today.lc http://www.pba.on-rev.com/5_today.irev They are identical except for the .lc/.irev file extensions, and also the and tags in the html. The .irev file correctly shows Japanese UTF8, the .lc file does not. Anyone else having problems with this? Can .lc files not handle charset correctly? Thanks, Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Charset problems with .lc web page
Hi Lyn, Thanks for the tip. But I tried it, and it didn't solve the problem with .lc & ?>. However, without fail, using .irev as the filename extension and tags in the web page show utf8 Japanese correctly -- so I am content to use those. Problem solved, as far as I'm concerned. Thanks! Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan On 12/24/15, 20:18, Lyn Teyla wrote: Lyn Teyla wrote: Try inserting the following 3 lines right at the top of your .lc script, leaving everything else untouched: There was a slight typo (missed the quotes); try this at the top of the script: Lyn :) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Charset problems with .lc web page
Hi Alex, Got it! The .lc file shows: /usr/local/cpanel/cgi-sys/livecode-server-6.6.2 The .irev file shows /usr/local/cpanel/cgi-sys/ireviam-engine And the .irev file continues to show utf-8 (Japanese) correctly while the .lc file does not. Actually tested it with the exact same file, simply re-tagging the changing the file extension to .irev. All other content in the file untouched. .irev works, and .lc doesn't. This is true even when I tried Lyn's suggestion of adding the charset command right in the I wonder if this is a bug? (Not that I know how to report it if it is!) At this point, I'm content to use .irev & Sorry Tim, I should have been clearer - it is literally $_SERVER["SCRIPT_FILENAME"] that you want to print. That's one of the built-in $_SERVER variables, showing which 'cgi' script (i.e. which version of the engine is running). So you'll get something like /usr/local/cpanel/cgi-sys/livecode-server-6.6.2 -- Alex. On 24/12/2015 08:33, Tim Selander wrote: Hi Alex, Thanks. I added http://www.pba.on-rev.com/5_today.lc;] & "" & CR ?> and also " & CR ?> in the script but it didn't return any info. I'm using On-Rev, the server is sage -- so whatever installs they have is what I'm using. I do find it curious that the older .irev works while .lc does not! Tim On 15/12/24 17:18, Alex Tweedly wrote: Hi Tim, I'm afraid I know little or nothing about charsets, so I can't directly help :-) The difference between .irev and .lc is which version of the server engine they are running - and obviously that depends on your server setup. So, to help with answering this, we (might) need to know which versions are being used on your server. You could add put $_SERVER[" SCRIPT_FILENAME"] & "" & CR Presumably it will be a pre-Unicode and a post-Unicode version - but knowing which ones might help someone answer your question. -- Alex. On 24/12/2015 07:55, Tim Selander wrote: Dear list, I'm having trouble making a .lc web pages correctly show the charset. I have two test files: http://www.pba.on-rev.com/5_today.lc http://www.pba.on-rev.com/5_today.irev They are identical except for the .lc/.irev file extensions, and also the and tags in the html. The .irev file correctly shows Japanese UTF8, the .lc file does not. Anyone else having problems with this? Can .lc files not handle charset correctly? Thanks, Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Charset problems with .lc web page
Dear list, I'm having trouble making a .lc web pages correctly show the charset. I have two test files: http://www.pba.on-rev.com/5_today.lc http://www.pba.on-rev.com/5_today.irev They are identical except for the .lc/.irev file extensions, and also the and tags in the html. The .irev file correctly shows Japanese UTF8, the .lc file does not. Anyone else having problems with this? Can .lc files not handle charset correctly? Thanks, Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: CSV again.
So, tell us what you really think about .CSV, Richard! :-) Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan On 15/10/16 8:34, Richard Gaskin wrote: stupidly complex really stupid stupid format really dumb idea ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LiveCode for the rest of us
Roland, Amen, preach it brother! Filemaker with xTalk replacing FM's miserable "scripting." I have been looking for that product, to no avail, since the demise of HyperCard. Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan On 9/19/15, 1:59, R.H. wrote: Following the really interesting discussions on this list for two years, enjoying the verve with which those developers in Edinburgh are trying to stitch the pieces together – and I know how much dedication this requires supporting so many different platforms and aspects of the LiveCode engine – and I want to thank them and support them - I think, not being a hard-core programmer, just maybe an advanced user, just someone with ideas about possible applications, I sometimes feel a bit lost. I enjoy the smart contributions seen here on the list, maybe it from Monte, or Peter, or Rick or whoever. So, I am not sure my contribution here would lead to another thread about LiveCode and how the "rest of us" – the non programmers – might see it. It is just my very subjective contribution as a non-programmer. Even I am thinking often, how such group of dedicated LiveCode mothership developers could receive more support, or how the business model for them would work out. Because without money nothing can be done. For example, I am paying for a Microsoft membership, for Adobe creative tools, for Google Cloud space, for a dedicated VPN to allow myself to not being detected as a Swiss user only (10 dollars per month), I am paying 5 bucks for my daily coffee in the coffee shop. Assuming 100,000 paying LiveCode customers, every one paying 10 dollars each month, it would be sufficient to get things really going and inviting many more supporters and developers to be on board. If it does not reach big numbers, what would be the future of LiveCode? It has to grow BIG. To me and my clients, the front end usability is what we see and what we want. I love LiveCode for its language and doing what I tell it to do (more or less) with simple English expressions. I question it for not providing me the necessary building blocks of an integrated framework allowing to do simple things without having to worry about the details. I do not really like its current standard visual interface, and it requires quite some work to make this interface shine and be really usable to end users. I love Filemaker as one of the tools I am using for in-house-development, but I hate its scripting language and its slow upgrade cycle, its many limitations, and for a small company it is already much too costly to distribute solutions to other users. It is not a language. It is just a nice database application development engine. What I am up to in my contribution would be the vision that LiveCode would introduce aspects of something like Filemaker. I am convinced that the majority of paying users (monthly 10 dollars) would be business people, smallest companies for 1-10 people - but they have business needs – and business almost always needs database applications. So, we are talking about database driven applications. Such apps are not made just for fun or done as a hobby, or to develop a lot of games. There is a definite business reason, abiding to platform specific usability guidelines, looking sexy, and doing what they have to do for lots of end users, non programmers, just users like you and me. And a business is ready to pay for that. Business is not paying for games. The game market is a different market, even though game-like presentations are sometimes also very useful. ( I am not against using LiveCode for game-development or anything to not be misunderstood ))). The Filemaker market is already big enough. I am sure many Filemaker users and developers would switch to LiveCode if it would provide a similar ease of development and deployment. And that means possibly using the new-born widgets technology. But today, I am still much faster in developing a small solution for a company using Filemaker compared to LiveCode. Much faster! Why not there is a field that can easily be set to display international date and time formats and automatically would default to local standards without having to script a lot and redoing the same work over and over again? Why not a field can be defined to represent whatever data it should provide and automatically check user input? Why not there are classes of fields that can be defined behaving the same using a domain-like concept? Why not there is a data grid working like a portal in Filemaker, just allowing to insert whatever we want, buttons and pictures, fields and menus? I do not have the time to work with the details of the current data grid – except for simple text input. Why should I have to script myself all the small bits and pieces? It needs too much time. And if fields are connected with an underlying database, I want to see the updates immediately. And why not there is a data input mechanism - add data, edit data, re
Amateur looking for advice on web security/CGI folder....
Hi all, I work at a small broadcast production company, and since HC days have made in-house programs that have helped us in a variety of ways. Now using a bit of LC v7 with its unicode support. Would like to have data available to staff who are on the road. A few months ago, asking about sql stuff, Richard Gaskin suggested just using text files for data. In my testing, this has worked great. Loading up sample data sets that are far larger than anything we really need, performance has been fine. Don't need a database. So I avoid all the SQL security discussion all you pros have been having (along with version control, github and a whole bunch of other stuff that makes me realize I'm a real amateur and that we're not in HC's Kansas, anymore) My remaining question is on keeping text data secure on our web server (on-rev). I use LC scripts in the cgi folder. My understanding is that the cgi folder is secure from any outside breach. Is that understanding correct? So if I store my company's customer data in the cgi folder, it is secure? Thanks, Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Amateur looking for advice on web security/CGI folder....
OK, glad I asked the list had a hunch my understanding was inadequate. Not using real data for the tests... Guess I need to go study. Any pointers to good articles appreciated! Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan On 15/08/14 12:50, Mark Wieder wrote: On 08/13/2015 04:29 PM, Tim Selander wrote: My remaining question is on keeping text data secure on our web server (on-rev). I use LC scripts in the cgi folder. My understanding is that the cgi folder is secure from any outside breach. Is that understanding correct? So if I store my company's customer data in the cgi folder, it is secure? Oh my goodness no. Don't put any data you need to keep secure on a publicly-facing server. Especially not on a shared server ala on-rev. You *are* requiring https already, right? And you've modified the .htaccess file in the public_html folder? And disabled anonymous ftp? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
