Re: [ANN] Book "Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner" sold out!

[Colin Holgate]

http://www.kobobooks.com/ebook/LiveCode-Mobile-Development-Beginners-Guide/book-zUh3lvV3rUCKVR1rdiWrAw/page1.html
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Re: [ANN] Book "Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner" sold out!

[Peter Alcibiades]

Is Kobo any good?  Yes, the new slightly oversize one is the only  e-ink
e-reader to get.  Unless you want to go to the really big ones like the DX,
and there are one or two variants of that.  

The Kobo is fast, incredible definition, open standards, and the extra
screen area makes all the difference.  And it takes memory cards.

The Nook HD+ is also very nice as e-reader but its backlit.  Especially now
its opened up to the android store.  Wonderful screen and very cheap for
what it is.  Maybe not the best tablet, but a great ereader.   But backlit
is a bit tiring.  Kobo is a lot better to read and of course hugely better
battery life.

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Re: [ANN] Book "Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner" sold out!

[Colin Holgate]

Is Kobo any good? I'll promote it to Packt if you think it would be of interest?

As for the other variations, I did buy the iBooks and Kindle ones myself too!

About the next edition, I'm a bit behind, but the hope is to have it complete 
in July sometime, so that the September Kickstarter folk will get the new 
revision. If that doesn't work out, I'll send the PDF to you!


On May 31, 2013, at 6:59 PM, Alex Tweedly  wrote:

> >So far I've got the Print, Kindle and iBooks versions. I'm trying to hold 
> >off until the next edition to get the Kobo version.
> 
> >Will I have the full set then ? :-)

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Re: [ANN] Book "Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner" sold out!

[Alex Tweedly]

So far I've got the Print, Kindle and iBooks versions. I'm trying to 
hold off until the next edition to get the Kobo version.


Will I have the full set then ? :-)

-- Alex.

On 31/05/2013 23:44, Colin Holgate wrote:

For what it's worth, my figures are that ebooks are a little over twice the 
sales of printed books. Mark has some valid points about DRM, but my thinking 
is that I didn't do the book to make any money. If a bunch of Print users buy 
the book, and a significant number of ebook users actually pay, that's more 
that's enough for me.


On May 31, 2013, at 6:34 PM, Jerry Jensen  wrote:


I think quite a few people bought both the paper and e versions. I did. Hope 
that helped - publishing both ways might help Mark too!

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Re: [ANN] Book "Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner" sold out!

[Colin Holgate]

For what it's worth, my figures are that ebooks are a little over twice the 
sales of printed books. Mark has some valid points about DRM, but my thinking 
is that I didn't do the book to make any money. If a bunch of Print users buy 
the book, and a significant number of ebook users actually pay, that's more 
that's enough for me.


On May 31, 2013, at 6:34 PM, Jerry Jensen  wrote:

> >I think quite a few people bought both the paper and e versions. I did. Hope 
> >that helped - publishing both ways might help Mark too!

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Re: [ANN] Book "Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner" sold out!

[Jerry Jensen]

I think quite a few people bought both the paper and e versions. I did. Hope 
that helped - publishing both ways might help Mark too!

On May 31, 2013, at 3:29 PM, Colin Holgate  wrote:

> Are you willing to say how many books you've sold? I don't know the numbers 
> for my book for 2013, but in the first five months during 2012 (end of July 
> to end of December) it sold over 800, which was surprisingly high.



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Re: [ANN] Book "Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner" sold out!

[Colin Holgate]

Are you willing to say how many books you've sold? I don't know the numbers for 
my book for 2013, but in the first five months during 2012 (end of July to end 
of December) it sold over 800, which was surprisingly high.



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Re: [ANN] Book "Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner" sold out!

[Andrew Kluthe]

Yes. Also, an electronic format would make the book easier to keep up to
date for the people that own the hard copy.


On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 9:26 AM, tbodine  wrote:

> Congrats! And I also think an ebook version would have lots of upside for
> you
> and the buyer. Please consider!
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Re: [ANN] Book "Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner" sold out!

[tbodine]

Congrats! And I also think an ebook version would have lots of upside for you
and the buyer. Please consider!
-- Tom Bodine




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Re: [ANN] Book "Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner" sold out!

[Marian Petrides, M.D.]

Thanks, Mark. Have no idea how DHL delivers here. Guess it may not make it here 
before I leave for the summer. Bummer.

On May 29, 2013, at 5:26 PM, Mark Schonewille 
 wrote:

> Hi Marian,
> 
> No, there is no tracking service offered. I'd think that DHL delivers the 
> book to you, but DHL might leave it to a local postal service.
> 
> --
> Best regards,
> 
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> 
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> 
> Use Color Converter to convert CMYK, RGB, RAL, XYZ, H.Lab and other colour 
> spaces. http://www.color-converter.com
> 
> Buy my new book "Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner" 
> http://qery.us/3fi
> 
> On 5/29/2013 21:04, Marian Petrides, M.D. wrote:
>> Mark,
>> For those of us who ordered the book early on, is there some way of tracking 
>> the shipment on our order? Do you know offhand how orders were shipped in 
>> the US? UPS? FedEx? USPS?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Marian
> 
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Re: [ANN] Book "Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner" sold out!

[Mark Schonewille]

Hi Marian,

No, there is no tracking service offered. I'd think that DHL delivers 
the book to you, but DHL might leave it to a local postal service.


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http://qery.us/3fi


On 5/29/2013 21:04, Marian Petrides, M.D. wrote:

Mark,
For those of us who ordered the book early on, is there some way of tracking 
the shipment on our order? Do you know offhand how orders were shipped in the 
US? UPS? FedEx? USPS?

Thanks

Marian




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Re: [ANN] Book "Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner" sold out!

[Marian Petrides, M.D.]

Yes, congratulations, Mark! 

And I hope you will go ahead with a second printing, even though I bought one 
the first time around. It's always good to have at least one book for beginners 
available to help people get started.

On May 29, 2013, at 2:30 PM, Rick Harrison  wrote:

> Hi Mark,
> 
> Congratulations, on successfully selling out your copies of your book!
> 
> Now you just need to decide if you are going to do a second printing.
> Or will the next version be an e-book instead?
> 
> Let us know!
> 
> Rick
> 


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Re: [ANN] Book "Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner" sold out!

[Rick Harrison]

Hi Mark,

Congratulations, on successfully selling out your copies of your book!

Now you just need to decide if you are going to do a second printing.
Or will the next version be an e-book instead?

Let us know!

Rick

On May 29, 2013, at 1:57 PM, Mark Schonewille 
 wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> For now, the book "Programming LiveCode for the real Beginner" is 
> unavailable. I'll take a day to decide what to do next.
> 
> 
> --
> Best regards,
> 
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Re: [ANN] Book "Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner" sold out!

[Marian Petrides, M.D.]

Mark,
For those of us who ordered the book early on, is there some way of tracking 
the shipment on our order? Do you know offhand how orders were shipped in the 
US? UPS? FedEx? USPS?

Thanks

Marian
On May 29, 2013, at 12:57 PM, Mark Schonewille 
 wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> For now, the book "Programming LiveCode for the real Beginner" is 
> unavailable. I'll take a day to decide what to do next.
> 
> 
> --
> Best regards,
> 
> Mark Schonewille
> 


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[ANN] Book "Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner" sold out!

[Mark Schonewille]

Hi,

For now, the book "Programming LiveCode for the real Beginner" is 
unavailable. I'll take a day to decide what to do next.



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Re: [ANN] Book. Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner

[Mark Schonewille]

Hi,

The first batch of books has been sent and are to arrive shortly.

A few of you still haven't confirmed their address. If you purchased the 
book but never confirmed your address (or don't know what I'm talking 
about), please contact me.


One person purchased the book without providing a correct e-mail 
address. If you never received any messages after purchasing the book, 
make sure to contact me right-away.


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Re: [ANN] Book. Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner

[Judy Perry]

I'm waiting.  tap.. tap... tap...

Judy

On Mon, 13 May 2013, Mark Schonewille wrote:


Hi guys,

The book has arrived in the office today. Three boxes full with books waiting 
to be shipped all over the world. I must say, it is really cool to have my 
own book in my hands.


We have sold more than half of all books and this means that we are almost 
breaking even. Still, it isn't a very profitable enterprise yet. Therefore, 
I´d like to ask you to keep reminding your friends and colleagues of this 
book. If you work at a company, university or school, we might be able to 
give a discount if all your colleagues or students buy the book together. 
Contact us and find out how to save a lot of money.


Unfortunately, we are unable to get the books at the conference in time. We 
will ship all books directly to your own address. If you want to have a 
first-print copy, you'll have to be quick. Only 40 copies are still available 
and I expect them to be sold out in three weeks. We will probably print more 
books, but obviously there will never be another first print.


The book has a Facebook page now. Open the URL http://qery.us/3gi to go to 
the Facebook page. As soon as we have 1000 "likes", we will raffle off 10 
copies of the book. Sometimes, I post brief updates about the book on 
Twitter. Go to http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer to follow me.

Tomorrow, we start shipping. The first books should arrive shortly.
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Re: [ANN] Book. Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner

[Mark Schonewille]

Hi guys,

The book has arrived in the office today. Three boxes full with books 
waiting to be shipped all over the world. I must say, it is really cool 
to have my own book in my hands.


We have sold more than half of all books and this means that we are 
almost breaking even. Still, it isn't a very profitable enterprise yet. 
Therefore, I´d like to ask you to keep reminding your friends and 
colleagues of this book. If you work at a company, university or school, 
we might be able to give a discount if all your colleagues or students 
buy the book together. Contact us and find out how to save a lot of money.


Unfortunately, we are unable to get the books at the conference in time. 
We will ship all books directly to your own address. If you want to have 
a first-print copy, you'll have to be quick. Only 40 copies are still 
available and I expect them to be sold out in three weeks. We will 
probably print more books, but obviously there will never be another 
first print.


The book has a Facebook page now. Open the URL http://qery.us/3gi to go 
to the Facebook page. As soon as we have 1000 "likes", we will raffle 
off 10 copies of the book. Sometimes, I post brief updates about the 
book on Twitter. Go to http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer to follow me.

Tomorrow, we start shipping. The first books should arrive shortly.
--
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Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com
Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer
KvK: 50277553

Use Color Converter to convert CMYK, RGB, RAL, XYZ, H.Lab and other 
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Re: [ANN] Book. Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner

[Andre Garzia]

Mark,

Will you go to the conference? Will you take your books there? :-D

Cheers
andre


On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 1:02 PM, William Humphrey wrote:

> That's true.
>
> Brevity and errors in this email probably the result of being sent by a
> mobile device.
>
> On May 5, 2013, at 11:44 AM, Guglielmo Braguglia 
> wrote:
>
> > Opss ... sorry, obviously I mean good quality *scanning*, not
> photocopies ;-)
> >
> > Guglielmo
> >
> >
> > On 5/5/13 17:36 PM, Guglielmo Braguglia wrote:
> >> Mark, do you understand that in this way ... you penalize ONLY the
> honest users (/who would buy an eBook edition/) and, in fact, doing nothing
> against piracy?
> >>
> >> As soon as the book will be available, if it is really an interesting
> book ... for sure someone will make good quality photocopies (/... that you
> can't prevent/) and will produce a pdf that, within a few days, will be
> available on all pirates sites of the world.  I have seen this happen
> thousands of times for any kind of book ...
> >>
> >> So, please, try to rethink to your decision ... for all of us who like
> eBooks ... :-)
> >>
> >> Cordially,
> >>
> >> Guglielmo Braguglia
> >>
> >>
> >> On 5/4/13 19:10 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote:
> >>> ..
> >>>
> >>> There have been many questions about an ebook edition. *There are no
> plans to publish an ebook*. We decided that DRM systems are insufficient.
> We don't want people to get the book for free, because that would mean
> there won't be a second edition, not to mention a completely new book.
> Please, don't ask for an ebook anymore. For the same reason, the book won't
> be released under a free license.
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Re: [ANN] Book. Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner

[William Humphrey]

That's true. 

Brevity and errors in this email probably the result of being sent by a mobile 
device. 

On May 5, 2013, at 11:44 AM, Guglielmo Braguglia  wrote:

> Opss ... sorry, obviously I mean good quality *scanning*, not photocopies ;-)
> 
> Guglielmo
> 
> 
> On 5/5/13 17:36 PM, Guglielmo Braguglia wrote:
>> Mark, do you understand that in this way ... you penalize ONLY the honest 
>> users (/who would buy an eBook edition/) and, in fact, doing nothing against 
>> piracy?
>> 
>> As soon as the book will be available, if it is really an interesting book 
>> ... for sure someone will make good quality photocopies (/... that you can't 
>> prevent/) and will produce a pdf that, within a few days, will be available 
>> on all pirates sites of the world.  I have seen this happen thousands of 
>> times for any kind of book ...
>> 
>> So, please, try to rethink to your decision ... for all of us who like 
>> eBooks ... :-)
>> 
>> Cordially,
>> 
>> Guglielmo Braguglia
>> 
>> 
>> On 5/4/13 19:10 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote:
>>> ..
>>> 
>>> There have been many questions about an ebook edition. *There are no plans 
>>> to publish an ebook*. We decided that DRM systems are insufficient. We 
>>> don't want people to get the book for free, because that would mean there 
>>> won't be a second edition, not to mention a completely new book. Please, 
>>> don't ask for an ebook anymore. For the same reason, the book won't be 
>>> released under a free license.
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Re: [ANN] Book. Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner

[Guglielmo Braguglia]

Opss ... sorry, obviously I mean good quality *scanning*, not 
photocopies ;-)


Guglielmo


On 5/5/13 17:36 PM, Guglielmo Braguglia wrote:
Mark, do you understand that in this way ... you penalize ONLY the 
honest users (/who would buy an eBook edition/) and, in fact, doing 
nothing against piracy?


As soon as the book will be available, if it is really an interesting 
book ... for sure someone will make good quality photocopies (/... 
that you can't prevent/) and will produce a pdf that, within a few 
days, will be available on all pirates sites of the world.  I have 
seen this happen thousands of times for any kind of book ...


So, please, try to rethink to your decision ... for all of us who like 
eBooks ... :-)


Cordially,

Guglielmo Braguglia


On 5/4/13 19:10 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote:

..

There have been many questions about an ebook edition. *There are no 
plans to publish an ebook*. We decided that DRM systems are 
insufficient. We don't want people to get the book for free, because 
that would mean there won't be a second edition, not to mention a 
completely new book. Please, don't ask for an ebook anymore. For the 
same reason, the book won't be released under a free license.




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Re: [ANN] Book. Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner

[Guglielmo Braguglia]

Mark, do you understand that in this way ... you penalize ONLY the 
honest users (/who would buy an eBook edition/) and, in fact, doing 
nothing against piracy?


As soon as the book will be available, if it is really an interesting 
book ... for sure someone will make good quality photocopies (/... that 
you can't prevent/) and will produce a pdf that, within a few days, will 
be available on all pirates sites of the world.  I have seen this happen 
thousands of times for any kind of book ...


So, please, try to rethink to your decision ... for all of us who like 
eBooks ... :-)


Cordially,

Guglielmo Braguglia


On 5/4/13 19:10 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote:

..

There have been many questions about an ebook edition. *There are no 
plans to publish an ebook*. We decided that DRM systems are 
insufficient. We don't want people to get the book for free, because 
that would mean there won't be a second edition, not to mention a 
completely new book. Please, don't ask for an ebook anymore. For the 
same reason, the book won't be released under a free license.




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Re: [ANN] Book. Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner

[Mark Schonewille]

Hi again,

I've put a good quality picture of the front and back cover of my book 
on my blog at http://qery.us/3g1


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http://qery.us/3fi


On 5/4/2013 19:10, Mark Schonewille wrote:

Hi,

Thank you, everyone, for the nice on- and off-list wishes. I feel really
supported and am happy with the great, welcoming response.

I sent the book to the printing company three days ago and am now
waiting for delivery. We expect to have the books in the office between
10 and 14 May. We'll start shipping the books as soon as they arrive. I
will also try to ship books to the conference in Scotland, but it is
going to be extremely tight.

Now that the book is ready, I can tell you a little about the last
changes I made. I removed the table of MySQL  field types in the
appendix, because  that isn't really the subject of the book. Instead, I
added a much longer table with all specialfolderpath codes available on
Mac OS X and Mac OS 9 (Classic). A table for Windows was included
already. I thought these tables would be more useful. I might post the
MySQL table on the website of the book later. The website hasn't been
set up yet, but will include a place to discuss the book with other
readers and I might give an explanation occasionally.

There have been many questions about an ebook edition. There are no
plans to publish an ebook. We decided that DRM systems are insufficient.
We don't want people to get the book for free, because that would mean
there won't be a second edition, not to mention a completely new book.
Please, don't ask for an ebook anymore. For the same reason, the book
won't be released under a free license.

If you would like to make suggestions (perhaps for a second edition),
please be specific. For example, if you propose a screenshot, tell me on
which page, accompanying which lines, why you think it is a good idea,
what it would explain, and what you would delete to make space for the
screenshot. I'm getting too many well-meant but useless suggestions.

I can now also announce the ISBN of the book: 978-90-820741-0-9. With
this number, anyone is able to order the book at a book shop, but it is
much quicker and possibly cheaper to order it directly from
Economy-x-Talk's website. More trivia: the final version of the book has
248 pages, three prefaces, a table of contents of 6 pages and an
alphabetical index of 9 pages. There are 17 pictures and 15 tables, some
tiny and some big. I really had to squeeze in all the info, because the
book wasn't supposed to count more than 240 pages (you get 8 pages for
free).

Sales are going very well. The printing costs have been earned back
already, but a few other things like envelopes and stamps and the ink I
used to print my drafts still have to be paid for. Therefore, if you
know someone who considers taking up programming either as a
professional or for a hobby, tell him or her about my book. We'll need
to sell quite a few more copies to make it worth the effort. Obviously,
I'm never going to be compensated for my time, but that wasn't the point
anyway.

I'll let you know when I have more news.

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Re: [ANN] Book. Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner

[Mark Schonewille]

Hi,

Thank you, everyone, for the nice on- and off-list wishes. I feel really 
supported and am happy with the great, welcoming response.


I sent the book to the printing company three days ago and am now 
waiting for delivery. We expect to have the books in the office between 
10 and 14 May. We'll start shipping the books as soon as they arrive. I 
will also try to ship books to the conference in Scotland, but it is 
going to be extremely tight.


Now that the book is ready, I can tell you a little about the last 
changes I made. I removed the table of MySQL  field types in the 
appendix, because  that isn't really the subject of the book. Instead, I 
added a much longer table with all specialfolderpath codes available on 
Mac OS X and Mac OS 9 (Classic). A table for Windows was included 
already. I thought these tables would be more useful. I might post the 
MySQL table on the website of the book later. The website hasn't been 
set up yet, but will include a place to discuss the book with other 
readers and I might give an explanation occasionally.


There have been many questions about an ebook edition. There are no 
plans to publish an ebook. We decided that DRM systems are insufficient. 
We don't want people to get the book for free, because that would mean 
there won't be a second edition, not to mention a completely new book. 
Please, don't ask for an ebook anymore. For the same reason, the book 
won't be released under a free license.


If you would like to make suggestions (perhaps for a second edition), 
please be specific. For example, if you propose a screenshot, tell me on 
which page, accompanying which lines, why you think it is a good idea, 
what it would explain, and what you would delete to make space for the 
screenshot. I'm getting too many well-meant but useless suggestions.


I can now also announce the ISBN of the book: 978-90-820741-0-9. With 
this number, anyone is able to order the book at a book shop, but it is 
much quicker and possibly cheaper to order it directly from 
Economy-x-Talk's website. More trivia: the final version of the book has 
248 pages, three prefaces, a table of contents of 6 pages and an 
alphabetical index of 9 pages. There are 17 pictures and 15 tables, some 
tiny and some big. I really had to squeeze in all the info, because the 
book wasn't supposed to count more than 240 pages (you get 8 pages for 
free).


Sales are going very well. The printing costs have been earned back 
already, but a few other things like envelopes and stamps and the ink I 
used to print my drafts still have to be paid for. Therefore, if you 
know someone who considers taking up programming either as a 
professional or for a hobby, tell him or her about my book. We'll need 
to sell quite a few more copies to make it worth the effort. Obviously, 
I'm never going to be compensated for my time, but that wasn't the point 
anyway.


I'll let you know when I have more news.

--
Best regards,

Mark Schonewille

Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com
Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer
KvK: 50277553

Use Color Converter to convert CMYK, RGB, RAL, XYZ, H.Lab and other 
colour spaces. http://www.color-converter.com


Buy my new book "Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner" 
http://qery.us/3fi


On 4/26/2013 23:14, william humphrey wrote:

I just bought the print version. Maybe when an eBook is released it will be
included or discounted.




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Re: [ANN] Book. Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner

[william humphrey]

I just bought the print version. Maybe when an eBook is released it will be
included or discounted.


On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 4:54 PM, Brahmanathswami  wrote:

> Aloha Mark:
>
> We would get this in "minute" for the newbies on our team, if you had it
> as an ebook.
>
> As a paperback, not so sure
>
> This past year we have and continue to get *all* our publications in al
> four mainl formats.. see e.g.see
>
> http://www.himalayanacademy.**com/view/the-guru-chronicles
> )
>
> I'm amazed to learn that
>
> a) there are users on all those platforms (even NOOK gets plenty downloads)
>
> b) PDF continues to dominate as user's "most wanted" format. ( we thought
> we didn't need it for some publications and then I had to handle all the
> support queries about "Can we get this as a PDF", so now we include it as a
> default requirement)
>
> We outsourced this work to an excellent company in Chennai, their rates
> are amazing and they do excellent work.
>
> I will email you off list with their contact info
>
> Brahmanathaswami
>
>
>
> Mark Schonewille wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Colin,
>>
>> Let me think about this and contact you off-list. Rest assured that I
>> have mentioned your book in the last chapter of mine.
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Mark Schonewille
>>
>> Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
>> Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com
>> Twitter: 
>> http://twitter.com/**xtalkprogrammer
>> KvK: 50277553
>>
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Re: [ANN] Book. Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner

[Brahmanathswami]

Aloha Mark:

We would get this in "minute" for the newbies on our team, if you had it 
as an ebook.


As a paperback, not so sure

This past year we have and continue to get *all* our publications in al 
four mainl formats.. see e.g.see


http://www.himalayanacademy.com/view/the-guru-chronicles)

I'm amazed to learn that

a) there are users on all those platforms (even NOOK gets plenty downloads)

b) PDF continues to dominate as user's "most wanted" format. ( we 
thought we didn't need it for some publications and then I had to handle 
all the support queries about "Can we get this as a PDF", so now we 
include it as a default requirement)


We outsourced this work to an excellent company in Chennai, their rates 
are amazing and they do excellent work.


I will email you off list with their contact info

Brahmanathaswami


Mark Schonewille wrote:


Hi Colin,

Let me think about this and contact you off-list. Rest assured that I
have mentioned your book in the last chapter of mine.

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Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer
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Re: [ANN] Book. Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner

[Jim Kanter]

Bought a copy after looking at the preview pages.

Might I suggest a few more screenshots at the start to show where the
different parts of the interface are. For example, your describe the
edit/run buttons but a screenshot would be far more effective, especially
for a new user.

I, too, join the chorus for a PDF and ebook formats. An associate of mine
sells his books through Amazon which can offer different formats as well as
a print-to-order capability. This significantly cuts down on the cost of
book production.

You might also consider making a PDF version available for those who have
purchased the print version.

Jim


On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 12:03 PM, Colin Holgate  wrote:

> One advantage of ebook versions is that screenshots are in color.
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Re: [ANN] Book. Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner

[Colin Holgate]

One advantage of ebook versions is that screenshots are in color.

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Re: [ANN] Book. Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner

[Mark Wieder]

Mark-

Congratulations on the book. Looks good from the preview. And I can
imagine the frantic rush trying to get this out in time for the
conference.

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Re: [ANN] Book. Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner

[Pascal Lehner]

A ebook would be cool in addition to the paperback as a reference to easily
carry around.
However, for that type of books I prefer "real" books with the possibilty
to make easy notes, and the possibility to make an index (and frustrated
throwing around with a kindle isn't that fun either ).

Thanks to Heather I will attend the first two days of the conference as
well :-)
Hope to see you there between the workshops

Regards,
Pascal




2013/4/26 William Humphrey 

> It's not an eBook?  I can't buy it on amazon and read in on my kindle?
>
> How long before it will be available that way? I don't want to hurt any
> trees.
>
> Brevity and errors in this email probably the result of being sent by a
> mobile device.
>
> On Apr 25, 2013, at 9:19 PM, Rodney Somerstein  wrote:
>
> > Hi Mark,
> >
> > I do think that the community needs a book like this and was all ready
> to purchase a copy, only to find that it isn't going to be available as an
> ebook. Any chance you will be reconsidering that stance? I, and quite a few
> other people I know, don't really buy much in the way of paper books any
> longer. The thought of a tutorial and reference book that I can't search
> really isn't very appealing.
> >
> > While I personally am not in favor of DRM, if you sell it as an ebook
> through Amazon or Barnes & Noble they will automatically apply DRM to the
> book unless you request otherwise. That would likely prevent casual piracy
> of the book - though certainly not all. If you simply don't like ebooks,
> then I don't really know what to suggest.
> >
> > Anyway, should you reconsider and make an ebook version available, I'll
> gladly purchase a copy to read on my iPad as a PDF or using the Kindle app.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > -Rodney
> >
> >> Mark Schonewille 
> >> April 25, 2013 7:48 PM
> >> Hi LiveCoders,
> >>
> >> A new book about LiveCode, titled Programming LiveCode for the Real
> Beginner, is now available at http://qery.us/3fr
> >>
> >> In 2011, I started writing a book. The purpose was to write a book
> simple enough to get people started with LiveCode and advanced enough to
> elevate the reader beyond the beginners stage. It took me slightly longer
> than I had planned for as I had a few small setbacks, but I have finally
> finished writing it.
> >>
> >> The first few chapters of the book deal with basic syntax, such as
> mouseUp handlers and the go command. The next few chapters discuss subjects
> like chunks, variables, repeat loops and printing. Special attention is
> paid to the property inspector, controls and their properties. Halfway the
> book, the reader should be able to create a simple programme.
> >>
> >> Advanced subjects discussed in the second half of the book include
> unicode, databases, sockets, MySQL, XML and more. A complete overview of
> the contents is available in the sample of the book on the website (please
> note: I will post the latest version of the sample in a few days).
> >>
> >> Currently, I'm making the last corrections to the lay-out, registering
> an ISBN and adjusting the book cover according to the printer's
> specifications among other things. I will send it to the printing company
> on 1st May and it should be available right before the conference in
> Edinburgh. I won't be there, but with a little luck a few copies of my book
> will be.
> >>
> >> I have sold quite a few copies already, but not enough to break even.
> If you think that the LiveCode community needs a book like this, please
> consider buying your own copy. Obviously, if you're just starting with
> LiveCode, then I wrote this book especially for you. The more copies are
> sold, the more likely this book is to stay available for years to come.
> >>
> >> There are several ways to order the book. Shipping costs all over the
> world are included. Contact me for reseller and bulk rates.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> Mark Schonewille
> >>
> >> Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
> >> Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com
> >> Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer
> >> KvK: 50277553
> >>
> >> Use Color Converter to convert CMYK, RGB, RAL, XYZ, H.Lab and other
> colour spaces. http://www.color-converter.com
> >>
> >> Buy my new book "Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner"
> http://qery.us/3fi
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Re: [ANN] Book. Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner

[William Humphrey]

It's not an eBook?  I can't buy it on amazon and read in on my kindle?

How long before it will be available that way? I don't want to hurt any trees. 

Brevity and errors in this email probably the result of being sent by a mobile 
device. 

On Apr 25, 2013, at 9:19 PM, Rodney Somerstein  wrote:

> Hi Mark,
> 
> I do think that the community needs a book like this and was all ready to 
> purchase a copy, only to find that it isn't going to be available as an 
> ebook. Any chance you will be reconsidering that stance? I, and quite a few 
> other people I know, don't really buy much in the way of paper books any 
> longer. The thought of a tutorial and reference book that I can't search 
> really isn't very appealing.
> 
> While I personally am not in favor of DRM, if you sell it as an ebook through 
> Amazon or Barnes & Noble they will automatically apply DRM to the book unless 
> you request otherwise. That would likely prevent casual piracy of the book - 
> though certainly not all. If you simply don't like ebooks, then I don't 
> really know what to suggest.
> 
> Anyway, should you reconsider and make an ebook version available, I'll 
> gladly purchase a copy to read on my iPad as a PDF or using the Kindle app.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -Rodney
> 
>> Mark Schonewille 
>> April 25, 2013 7:48 PM
>> Hi LiveCoders,
>> 
>> A new book about LiveCode, titled Programming LiveCode for the Real 
>> Beginner, is now available at http://qery.us/3fr
>> 
>> In 2011, I started writing a book. The purpose was to write a book simple 
>> enough to get people started with LiveCode and advanced enough to elevate 
>> the reader beyond the beginners stage. It took me slightly longer than I had 
>> planned for as I had a few small setbacks, but I have finally finished 
>> writing it.
>> 
>> The first few chapters of the book deal with basic syntax, such as mouseUp 
>> handlers and the go command. The next few chapters discuss subjects like 
>> chunks, variables, repeat loops and printing. Special attention is paid to 
>> the property inspector, controls and their properties. Halfway the book, the 
>> reader should be able to create a simple programme.
>> 
>> Advanced subjects discussed in the second half of the book include unicode, 
>> databases, sockets, MySQL, XML and more. A complete overview of the contents 
>> is available in the sample of the book on the website (please note: I will 
>> post the latest version of the sample in a few days).
>> 
>> Currently, I'm making the last corrections to the lay-out, registering an 
>> ISBN and adjusting the book cover according to the printer's specifications 
>> among other things. I will send it to the printing company on 1st May and it 
>> should be available right before the conference in Edinburgh. I won't be 
>> there, but with a little luck a few copies of my book will be.
>> 
>> I have sold quite a few copies already, but not enough to break even. If you 
>> think that the LiveCode community needs a book like this, please consider 
>> buying your own copy. Obviously, if you're just starting with LiveCode, then 
>> I wrote this book especially for you. The more copies are sold, the more 
>> likely this book is to stay available for years to come.
>> 
>> There are several ways to order the book. Shipping costs all over the world 
>> are included. Contact me for reseller and bulk rates.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Mark Schonewille
>> 
>> Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
>> Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com
>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer
>> KvK: 50277553
>> 
>> Use Color Converter to convert CMYK, RGB, RAL, XYZ, H.Lab and other colour 
>> spaces. http://www.color-converter.com
>> 
>> Buy my new book "Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner" 
>> http://qery.us/3fi
>> 
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Re: [ANN] Book. Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner

[Pascal Lehner]

Hi Mark
I also ordered one of the books, it does look great and will glow in the
shelf ;-)

If there is a way to pick it up in Edinburgh that would be great. Since
there is no student package available I won't be able to attend the
conference but I am living here..

Regards,

Pascal


2013/4/26 Dave Kilroy2 

> Hi Mark, well done on creating the book - I've just bought a copy and am
> looking forward to reading it!
>
> After I orded it your website sent me an email listing (amongst other
> things) how long I might have to wait for it to arrive in the post. I
> notice
> you said that some copies of your book would make it to the conference in
> Edinburgh - any chance I could pick up my copy there instead of having to
> wait longer for the postman to arrive?
>
> Dave
>
>
>
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[Dave Kilroy2]

Hi Mark, well done on creating the book - I've just bought a copy and am
looking forward to reading it!

After I orded it your website sent me an email listing (amongst other
things) how long I might have to wait for it to arrive in the post. I notice
you said that some copies of your book would make it to the conference in
Edinburgh - any chance I could pick up my copy there instead of having to
wait longer for the postman to arrive?

Dave



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Re: [ANN] Book. Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner

[Mark Schonewille]

Hi Colin,

Let me think about this and contact you off-list. Rest assured that I
have mentioned your book in the last chapter of mine.

--
Best regards,

Mark Schonewille

Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
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Buy my new book "Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner"
http://qery.us/3fi

On 4/26/2013 02:41, Colin Holgate wrote:

It occurs to me that I should mention your book in the Preface of my
book. Come the day that we're mass-market, and people are reading our
books in Barnes & Nobles, and deciding which book is right for them,
me mentioning your book could be good, it might be a beginner who
isn't yet into mobile app making. Can you tell me enough information
that I can include in my Preface to get people to find your book?




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Re: [ANN] Book. Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner

[Marian Petrides, M.D.]

Well, I just ordered a copy.  I just hope it gets here before I leave for 
Vermont for the summer. Can't wait to see it. Thanks for doing this Mark!


> 
>> Mark Schonewille 
>> April 25, 2013 7:48 PM
>> Hi LiveCoders,
>> 
>> A new book about LiveCode, titled Programming LiveCode for the Real 
>> Beginner, is now available at http://qery.us/3fr
>> 
>> In 2011, I started writing a book. The purpose was to write a book simple 
>> enough to get people started with LiveCode and advanced enough to elevate 
>> the reader beyond the beginners stage. It took me slightly longer than I had 
>> planned for as I had a few small setbacks, but I have finally finished 
>> writing it.
>> 
>> The first few chapters of the book deal with basic syntax, such as mouseUp 
>> handlers and the go command. The next few chapters discuss subjects like 
>> chunks, variables, repeat loops and printing. Special attention is paid to 
>> the property inspector, controls and their properties. Halfway the book, the 
>> reader should be able to create a simple programme.
>> 
>> Advanced subjects discussed in the second half of the book include unicode, 
>> databases, sockets, MySQL, XML and more. A complete overview of the contents 
>> is available in the sample of the book on the website (please note: I will 
>> post the latest version of the sample in a few days).
>> 
>> Currently, I'm making the last corrections to the lay-out, registering an 
>> ISBN and adjusting the book cover according to the printer's specifications 
>> among other things. I will send it to the printing company on 1st May and it 
>> should be available right before the conference in Edinburgh. I won't be 
>> there, but with a little luck a few copies of my book will be.
>> 
>> I have sold quite a few copies already, but not enough to break even. If you 
>> think that the LiveCode community needs a book like this, please consider 
>> buying your own copy. Obviously, if you're just starting with LiveCode, then 
>> I wrote this book especially for you. The more copies are sold, the more 
>> likely this book is to stay available for years to come.
>> 
>> There are several ways to order the book. Shipping costs all over the world 
>> are included. Contact me for reseller and bulk rates.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Mark Schonewille
>> 
>> Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
>> Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com
>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer
>> KvK: 50277553
>> 
>> Use Color Converter to convert CMYK, RGB, RAL, XYZ, H.Lab and other colour 
>> spaces. http://www.color-converter.com
>> 
>> Buy my new book "Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner" 
>> http://qery.us/3fi
>> 
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Re: [ANN] Book. Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner

[Rodney Somerstein]

Hi Mark,

I do think that the community needs a book like this and was all ready 
to purchase a copy, only to find that it isn't going to be available as 
an ebook. Any chance you will be reconsidering that stance? I, and quite 
a few other people I know, don't really buy much in the way of paper 
books any longer. The thought of a tutorial and reference book that I 
can't search really isn't very appealing.


While I personally am not in favor of DRM, if you sell it as an ebook 
through Amazon or Barnes & Noble they will automatically apply DRM to 
the book unless you request otherwise. That would likely prevent casual 
piracy of the book - though certainly not all. If you simply don't like 
ebooks, then I don't really know what to suggest.


Anyway, should you reconsider and make an ebook version available, I'll 
gladly purchase a copy to read on my iPad as a PDF or using the Kindle app.


Thanks,

-Rodney


Mark Schonewille 
April 25, 2013 7:48 PM
Hi LiveCoders,

A new book about LiveCode, titled Programming LiveCode for the Real 
Beginner, is now available at http://qery.us/3fr


In 2011, I started writing a book. The purpose was to write a book 
simple enough to get people started with LiveCode and advanced enough 
to elevate the reader beyond the beginners stage. It took me slightly 
longer than I had planned for as I had a few small setbacks, but I 
have finally finished writing it.


The first few chapters of the book deal with basic syntax, such as 
mouseUp handlers and the go command. The next few chapters discuss 
subjects like chunks, variables, repeat loops and printing. Special 
attention is paid to the property inspector, controls and their 
properties. Halfway the book, the reader should be able to create a 
simple programme.


Advanced subjects discussed in the second half of the book include 
unicode, databases, sockets, MySQL, XML and more. A complete overview 
of the contents is available in the sample of the book on the website 
(please note: I will post the latest version of the sample in a few 
days).


Currently, I'm making the last corrections to the lay-out, registering 
an ISBN and adjusting the book cover according to the printer's 
specifications among other things. I will send it to the printing 
company on 1st May and it should be available right before the 
conference in Edinburgh. I won't be there, but with a little luck a 
few copies of my book will be.


I have sold quite a few copies already, but not enough to break even. 
If you think that the LiveCode community needs a book like this, 
please consider buying your own copy. Obviously, if you're just 
starting with LiveCode, then I wrote this book especially for you. The 
more copies are sold, the more likely this book is to stay available 
for years to come.


There are several ways to order the book. Shipping costs all over the 
world are included. Contact me for reseller and bulk rates.


--
Best regards,

Mark Schonewille

Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com
Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer
KvK: 50277553

Use Color Converter to convert CMYK, RGB, RAL, XYZ, H.Lab and other 
colour spaces. http://www.color-converter.com


Buy my new book "Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner" 
http://qery.us/3fi


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Re: [ANN] Book. Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner

[Colin Holgate]

It occurs to me that I should mention your book in the Preface of my book. Come 
the day that we're mass-market, and people are reading our books in Barnes & 
Nobles, and deciding which book is right for them, me mentioning your book 
could be good, it might be a beginner who isn't yet into mobile app making. Can 
you tell me enough information that I can include in my Preface to get people 
to find your book?



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Re: [ANN] Book. Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner

[Fabian Rodriguez]

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On 2013-04-25 19:48, Mark Schonewille wrote:
> Hi LiveCoders,
> 
> A new book about LiveCode, titled Programming LiveCode for the
> Real Beginner, is now available at http://qery.us/3fr

Congratulations, and best of luck with this!

May I suggest that you also consider publishing part or all of this
book under a free license. There are various models to go about this,
taking some time to inquire about it may be worth it down the road (or
not).

[..]

> Currently, I'm making the last corrections to the lay-out,
> registering an ISBN and adjusting the book cover according to the
> printer's specifications among other things. [...]

This is quite important if you want it to make its way into libraries
and into proper bibliographic references :)

Pardon my ignorance but for eveyone's benefit (others here may be
contemplating such a venture), what is the difference between the
process you're going through to get an ISBN and this:
http://www.epubbud.com/isbn.php

> There are several ways to order the book. Shipping costs all over
> the world are included. Contact me for reseller and bulk rates.
> [...]

Also thanks for making the website a one-page-order experience, many
similar sites make it difficult to buy it right away.

Cheers,

Fabian

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[ANN] Book. Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner

[Mark Schonewille]

Hi LiveCoders,

A new book about LiveCode, titled Programming LiveCode for the Real 
Beginner, is now available at http://qery.us/3fr


In 2011, I started writing a book. The purpose was to write a book 
simple enough to get people started with LiveCode and advanced enough to 
elevate the reader beyond the beginners stage. It took me slightly 
longer than I had planned for as I had a few small setbacks, but I have 
finally finished writing it.


The first few chapters of the book deal with basic syntax, such as 
mouseUp handlers and the go command. The next few chapters discuss 
subjects like chunks, variables, repeat loops and printing. Special 
attention is paid to the property inspector, controls and their 
properties. Halfway the book, the reader should be able to create a 
simple programme.


Advanced subjects discussed in the second half of the book include 
unicode, databases, sockets, MySQL, XML and more. A complete overview of 
the contents is available in the sample of the book on the website 
(please note: I will post the latest version of the sample in a few days).


Currently, I'm making the last corrections to the lay-out, registering 
an ISBN and adjusting the book cover according to the printer's 
specifications among other things. I will send it to the printing 
company on 1st May and it should be available right before the 
conference in Edinburgh. I won't be there, but with a little luck a few 
copies of my book will be.


I have sold quite a few copies already, but not enough to break even. If 
you think that the LiveCode community needs a book like this, please 
consider buying your own copy. Obviously, if you're just starting with 
LiveCode, then I wrote this book especially for you. The more copies are 
sold, the more likely this book is to stay available for years to come.


There are several ways to order the book. Shipping costs all over the 
world are included. Contact me for reseller and bulk rates.


--
Best regards,

Mark Schonewille

Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com
Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer
KvK: 50277553

Use Color Converter to convert CMYK, RGB, RAL, XYZ, H.Lab and other 
colour spaces. http://www.color-converter.com


Buy my new book "Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner" 
http://qery.us/3fi


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