Re: Support for Windows XP
Lynn Fredricks wrote: Dropping support for Windows XP would be fairly foolish (while dropping support for 10.5 and lower will just elicit a tired sigh); I think it's a really bad idea to embed something as important as this is a thread about 10.5. Check out this Computeworld article: http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9245966/Users_postpone_ditch_XP_decis ion_as_Windows_8_runs_to_stay_in_place This shows that XP accounted for 29.2% of desktop and notebook PCs as recently as last month. That's almost 5 x the number of all machines running Mac OS. I promise this will be my last Linux fanboy post this week, but it's relevant in reminding us that when it comes to expired systems we have options: 11 Percent of Windows XP Users Will Switch to Linux, Survey Claims http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/02/windows-xp-users-may-switch-linux This article notes that as of October there were about 500 million PCs running XP: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/10/01/six_months_end_xp_support/ So if the survey methodology pans out, that'll mean roughly 55 million new Linux installs. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/FourthWorldSys ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Support for Windows XP
Le 26 févr. 2014 à 18:31, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com a écrit : 11 Percent of Windows XP Users Will Switch to Linux, Survey Claims http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/02/windows-xp-users-may-switch-linux This article notes that as of October there were about 500 million PCs running XP: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/10/01/six_months_end_xp_support/ So if the survey methodology pans out, that'll mean roughly 55 million new Linux installs. The methodology is flawed, as it does not take into account those who flee Linux (which is not an OS, but a kernel) like the plague. 90% troll on the list today, so I indulged myself into this post. Best regards, François ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Support for Windows XP
Should I dare to say is this the year of linux on the desktop that we've been hearing about? Honestly, I think it stops becoming fanboyism when it makes the shift to a real trend. I think some major players are making a cultural shift away from microsoft that makes linux the realest contender I see. For instance: If valve can succeed in getting teenagers that are playing PC games away from being stuck on windows is going to make the next 10 years very interesting for linux. On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: Lynn Fredricks wrote: Dropping support for Windows XP would be fairly foolish (while dropping support for 10.5 and lower will just elicit a tired sigh); I think it's a really bad idea to embed something as important as this is a thread about 10.5. Check out this Computeworld article: http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9245966/Users_ postpone_ditch_XP_decis ion_as_Windows_8_runs_to_stay_in_place This shows that XP accounted for 29.2% of desktop and notebook PCs as recently as last month. That's almost 5 x the number of all machines running Mac OS. I promise this will be my last Linux fanboy post this week, but it's relevant in reminding us that when it comes to expired systems we have options: 11 Percent of Windows XP Users Will Switch to Linux, Survey Claims http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/02/windows-xp-users-may-switch-linux This article notes that as of October there were about 500 million PCs running XP: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/10/01/six_months_end_xp_support/ So if the survey methodology pans out, that'll mean roughly 55 million new Linux installs. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/FourthWorldSys ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Andrew Kluthe and...@ctech.me ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Support for Windows XP
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 11:37 AM, François Chaplais francois.chapl...@mines-paristech.fr wrote: The methodology is flawed, as it does not take into account those who flee Linux (which is not an OS, but a kernel) like the plague My technological incorrectness aside, unix-like unix-derived operating systems seem to be dominating currently between mac, linux, and stuff like android. -- Regards, Andrew Kluthe and...@ctech.me ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Support for Windows XP
you forgot ios On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Andrew Kluthe and...@ctech.me wrote: On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 11:37 AM, François Chaplais francois.chapl...@mines-paristech.fr wrote: The methodology is flawed, as it does not take into account those who flee Linux (which is not an OS, but a kernel) like the plague My technological incorrectness aside, unix-like unix-derived operating systems seem to be dominating currently between mac, linux, and stuff like android. -- Regards, Andrew Kluthe and...@ctech.me ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Support for Windows XP
Sure did. I'm honestly not far at all from saying goodbye to windows for all but testing and infrequent purposes. The only thing keeping me here was occasional PC Gaming and some wonky livecode stuff from a few versions ago. I tried it for almost a year but found myself booting less often into my linux mint with cinnamon partition out of laziness to switch there for just my browsing and some non-livecode programming work. Now that livecode is working better on linux (and has been) and I can fire up a game when work is done and the kids are to bed, I think I could make it stick. I really prefer the workflow and simplicity I had on cinnamon. I find myself looking for windows programs that emulate some of those window management features. Anyhow, this got very offtopic. Carry on. On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Mike Kerner mikeker...@roadrunner.comwrote: you forgot ios On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Andrew Kluthe and...@ctech.me wrote: On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 11:37 AM, François Chaplais francois.chapl...@mines-paristech.fr wrote: The methodology is flawed, as it does not take into account those who flee Linux (which is not an OS, but a kernel) like the plague My technological incorrectness aside, unix-like unix-derived operating systems seem to be dominating currently between mac, linux, and stuff like android. -- Regards, Andrew Kluthe and...@ctech.me ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Andrew Kluthe and...@ctech.me ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Support for Windows XP
François Chaplais wrote: Le 26 févr. 2014 à 18:31, Richard Gaskin a écrit : 11 Percent of Windows XP Users Will Switch to Linux, Survey Claims http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/02/windows-xp-users-may-switch-linux This article notes that as of October there were about 500 million PCs running XP: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/10/01/six_months_end_xp_support/ So if the survey methodology pans out, that'll mean roughly 55 million new Linux installs. The methodology is flawed, as it does not take into account those who flee Linux (which is not an OS, but a kernel) like the plague. Agreed, every OS has switchers, both to and from. Do you have a URL which measures the Linux attrition rate? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/FourthWorldSys ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Support for Windows XP
The past 5 years have been the year of linux on the desktop for many people that I know. Friends, family, and colleagues bring me their computers to fix when malware has held their systems hostage. My first question is always, does the system contain any valuable data, and what software do you use?. When the answer is internet surfing, and internet explorer, and office sometimes, I offer Ubuntu. Those users NEVER switch back to Windows. When the user does use Windows and lots of PC software, that's what I put back on it, along with Microsoft Security Essentials. They are always surprised that they don't have to pay for antivirus protection. And I always LOL at that. ~Roger On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Andrew Kluthe and...@ctech.me wrote: Should I dare to say is this the year of linux on the desktop that we've been hearing about? Honestly, I think it stops becoming fanboyism when it makes the shift to a real trend. I think some major players are making a cultural shift away from microsoft that makes linux the realest contender I see. For instance: If valve can succeed in getting teenagers that are playing PC games away from being stuck on windows is going to make the next 10 years very interesting for linux. On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: Lynn Fredricks wrote: Dropping support for Windows XP would be fairly foolish (while dropping support for 10.5 and lower will just elicit a tired sigh); I think it's a really bad idea to embed something as important as this is a thread about 10.5. Check out this Computeworld article: http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9245966/Users_ postpone_ditch_XP_decis ion_as_Windows_8_runs_to_stay_in_place This shows that XP accounted for 29.2% of desktop and notebook PCs as recently as last month. That's almost 5 x the number of all machines running Mac OS. I promise this will be my last Linux fanboy post this week, but it's relevant in reminding us that when it comes to expired systems we have options: 11 Percent of Windows XP Users Will Switch to Linux, Survey Claims http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/02/windows-xp-users-may-switch-linux This article notes that as of October there were about 500 million PCs running XP: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/10/01/six_months_end_xp_support/ So if the survey methodology pans out, that'll mean roughly 55 million new Linux installs. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/FourthWorldSys ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Andrew Kluthe and...@ctech.me ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Support for Windows XP
On 26/02/14 19:31, Richard Gaskin wrote: prune 11 Percent of Windows XP Users Will Switch to Linux, Survey Claims http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/02/windows-xp-users-may-switch-linux This article notes that as of October there were about 500 million PCs running XP: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/10/01/six_months_end_xp_support/ So if the survey methodology pans out, that'll mean roughly 55 million new Linux installs. -- Richard Gaskin prune I hope you are right! Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Support for Windows XP
Wait - is that in German or Irish? On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.comwrote: On 26/02/14 19:37, François Chaplais wrote: Le 26 févr. 2014 à 18:31, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com a écrit : 11 Percent of Windows XP Users Will Switch to Linux, Survey Claims http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/02/windows-xp-users-may-switch-linux This article notes that as of October there were about 500 million PCs running XP: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/10/01/six_months_end_xp_support/ So if the survey methodology pans out, that'll mean roughly 55 million new Linux installs. The methodology is flawed, as it does not take into account those who flee Linux (which is not an OS, but a kernel) like the plague. Yes; Linux is a kernel, it is also a family of operating systems: rather like Livecode the programming package and Livecode the programming language. Richmond. 90% troll on the list today, so I indulged myself into this post. Face facts: troll is just a non-politically correct term for Homo Neanderthalis. Best regards, François ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Support for Windows XP
People do not change easily. They will stick to what they know. If they *have* to get a new PC, and they were running XP, they will almost certainly buy another Windows product. I know this because I have spent my life trying to get users to just look at something new, try some new way of doing things. Ever try to get someone who uses spaces and carriage returns and multiple tabs to align their document to start using space before paragraph, margin and tab stop settings in Word? They. Will. Not. Change. No not ever, no never ever, no. Oh, they will thank you for showing them something new, and will promise to look into it later “when they have time”. But. They. Will. Not. Change. And we hope to get them to (in their minds) learn how to use a computer ALL OVER AGAIN? Not gonna happen with most people. Perhaps in schools you can gain some inroads, but then again that is a HUGE decision for a school administrator to take, because his main goal is to prepare the kids for the future, and until he sees real strong trends that the world is migrating to *nix, he would be remiss in replacing his lab computers with *nix ones. Surveys are all good in as far as they go, but I have to ask what the surveyors used as a sample group. It sure as heck didn’t include anyone from the place I used to work let me tell you! I’m have a really, really hard time swallowing 11%. Bob On Feb 26, 2014, at 10:06 , Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: On 26/02/14 19:31, Richard Gaskin wrote: prune 11 Percent of Windows XP Users Will Switch to Linux, Survey Claims http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/02/windows-xp-users-may-switch-linux This article notes that as of October there were about 500 million PCs running XP: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/10/01/six_months_end_xp_support/ So if the survey methodology pans out, that'll mean roughly 55 million new Linux installs. -- Richard Gaskin prune I hope you are right! Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Support for Windows XP - Found word(s) check out in the Text body
The elephant in the room here is that there isn’t a world of nasty people waiting to release exploits of 10.5 into the wild the moment Apple drops support for it. There IS however, for Windows XP. Bob On Feb 26, 2014, at 08:46 , Lynn Fredricks lfredri...@proactive-intl.com wrote: Dropping support for Windows XP would be fairly foolish (while dropping support for 10.5 and lower will just elicit a tired sigh); I think it's a really bad idea to embed something as important as this is a thread about 10.5. Check out this Computeworld article: http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9245966/Users_postpone_ditch_XP_decis ion_as_Windows_8_runs_to_stay_in_place This shows that XP accounted for 29.2% of desktop and notebook PCs as recently as last month. That's almost 5 x the number of all machines running Mac OS. As Richmond suggests, yes, there are a lot of XP desktops in countries where new software purchases tend to be low. But also, there are many, many households and SMBs that run what they have, for as long as they can - they view the PC as a tool to get tasks done. Best, Lynn ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Support for Windows XP
Richard- Wednesday, February 26, 2014, 9:31:05 AM, you wrote: I promise this will be my last Linux fanboy post this week, I had a choice at work between a Thinkpad to run linux and a Mac air, and I opted for the mac (I'll need both platforms), figuring that it would be easiest to run linux in a vm on an osx native base. Not a week goes by that I don't regret that decision: things are *so* much easier in linux than osx. A lot of the standard linux tools aren't there when I open a terminal window. I have to learn osx-equivalent commands instead, and then mentally switch back and forth. I really miss having apt-get. I lost two hours this afternoon installing the capybara-webkit ruby gem, partly because Apple decided to move the location of XCode... -- -Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com This communication may be unlawfully collected and stored by the National Security Agency (NSA) in secret. The parties to this email do not consent to the retrieving or storing of this communication and any related metadata, as well as printing, copying, re-transmitting, disseminating, or otherwise using it. If you believe you have received this communication in error, please delete it immediately. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Support for Windows XP
On 2/26/14, 8:28 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: Ever try to get someone who uses spaces and carriage returns and multiple tabs to align their document to start using space before paragraph, margin and tab stop settings in Word? They. Will. Not. Change. No not ever, no never ever, no. I knew a guy like that. His office put him in charge of teaching Word to the rest of the staff. I tried to talk to him about paragraph attributes but he didn't see the point because his way worked. So, that's what he taught everyone else. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Support for Windows XP - Found word(s) list error in the Text body
Well if Apple continues to solder it’s memory onto the motherboard of it’s laptops, and glue it’s batteries to the cases, I may not be far behind you guys in switching to Linux. Bob On Feb 26, 2014, at 19:05 , Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Richard- Wednesday, February 26, 2014, 9:31:05 AM, you wrote: I promise this will be my last Linux fanboy post this week, I had a choice at work between a Thinkpad to run linux and a Mac air, and I opted for the mac (I'll need both platforms), figuring that it would be easiest to run linux in a vm on an osx native base. Not a week goes by that I don't regret that decision: things are *so* much easier in linux than osx. A lot of the standard linux tools aren't there when I open a terminal window. I have to learn osx-equivalent commands instead, and then mentally switch back and forth. I really miss having apt-get. I lost two hours this afternoon installing the capybara-webkit ruby gem, partly because Apple decided to move the location of XCode... -- -Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com This communication may be unlawfully collected and stored by the National Security Agency (NSA) in secret. The parties to this email do not consent to the retrieving or storing of this communication and any related metadata, as well as printing, copying, re-transmitting, disseminating, or otherwise using it. If you believe you have received this communication in error, please delete it immediately. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Support for Windows XP - Found word(s) list error in the Text body
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Bob Sneidar bobsnei...@iotecdigital.comwrote: Well if Apple continues to solder it’s memory onto the motherboard of it’s laptops Doesn't it have to for the Air? No room for sockets... *--* *Stephen Barncard - San Francisco Ca. USA - Deeds Not Words* ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Support for Windows XP
So if the survey methodology pans out, that'll mean roughly 55 million new Linux installs. Hey Mr Fanboy - I think once the Steam Machines start rolling out later in 2014, you'll see a lot of Linux in the living room :-) There's a little button that lets you exit out to Debian from SteamOS. Best, Lynn ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Support for Windows XP - Found word(s) list error in the Text body
I suppose, but then I could call the Air a high end tablet that doesn’t have touch yet. :-) (strtching…) But I’m talking about their line of Mackbook Pros. If I’m buying a top of the line Apple, I would very much like for them to NOT glue the battery in place. And soldering the memory onto the motherboard is a complete buzz kill. I think I know why they started that though. Ever try buying memory at the Apple store to upgrade the Macbook Pro you wanted to buy? The price was 3 to 4 times what you could get from web stores or even Fry’s. Sure, you could poke the salesperson in the eye and ask about the Price Match Guarantee, and they would grudgingly point you to an iMac and have you show them the price at Crucial. I think someone in corporate said, Screw that! Solder the damn memory on the board and be done with it! Ahhh… Steve Jobs. We miss you. :-) Bob On Feb 26, 2014, at 19:36 , stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Bob Sneidar bobsnei...@iotecdigital.comwrote: Well if Apple continues to solder it’s memory onto the motherboard of it’s laptops Doesn't it have to for the Air? No room for sockets... *--* *Stephen Barncard - San Francisco Ca. USA - Deeds Not Words* ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Support for Windows XP - Found word(s) list error in the Text body
Yup. I agree. My Mackbook Pro with retina has 16 GB RAM glued to the motherboard, as well as the SD card. Order as you want it, because nothing can be upgraded! On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:08 PM, Bob Sneidar bobsnei...@iotecdigital.comwrote: I suppose, but then I could call the Air a high end tablet that doesn't have touch yet. :-) (strtching...) But I'm talking about their line of Mackbook Pros. If I'm buying a top of the line Apple, I would very much like for them to NOT glue the battery in place. And soldering the memory onto the motherboard is a complete buzz kill. I think I know why they started that though. Ever try buying memory at the Apple store to upgrade the Macbook Pro you wanted to buy? The price was 3 to 4 times what you could get from web stores or even Fry's. Sure, you could poke the salesperson in the eye and ask about the Price Match Guarantee, and they would grudgingly point you to an iMac and have you show them the price at Crucial. I think someone in corporate said, Screw that! Solder the damn memory on the board and be done with it! Ahhh... Steve Jobs. We miss you. :-) Bob On Feb 26, 2014, at 19:36 , stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Bob Sneidar bobsnei...@iotecdigital.comwrote: Well if Apple continues to solder it's memory onto the motherboard of it's laptops Doesn't it have to for the Air? No room for sockets... *--* *Stephen Barncard - San Francisco Ca. USA - Deeds Not Words* ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
