Re: Underscore uncomment bug in OSX
Here's the workaround that I have been using, in case others find it useful. I put it into a controlkeydown handler in my LC frontscript. All my script shortcuts use control-shift-key. The command doUndoSpace types a space and then deletes it, to make sure LC knows that editing has been done and the script needs re-checking. This may not be necessary in later LC versions (I operate still in 5.5 -- I know, I'm a dinosaur). So control-shift-underscore comments out a line or lines, control-shift-= uncomments a line or lines. on controlkeydown which put the long name of the target into tarName put the shiftkey is down into shK switch which case - case _ -- comment out the line -- until Rev fixes the commandkey shortcut if not shK then pass controlkeydown if field is not in tarName then pass controlkeydown if revNewScriptEditor is not in tarName then pass controlkeydown put the selectedLine into tLineCh put - - into cmntChars if to is in tLineCh then put word 2 of tLineCh into stLineNbr put word 4 of tLineCh into endLineNbr repeat with n = stLineNbr to endLineNbr put put cmntChars space before word 1 of line n of tarName \ into theDo do theDo end repeat -- put scriptLinesText into line stLineNbr to endLineNbr of the target put endLineNbr into selectHere else put word 2 of tLineCh into lineNbr put the long name of the target into tLongName put sr(line lineNbr of the target) into tLineText do put cmntChars space before word 1 of tLineCh put lineNbr into selectHere end if doUndoSpace send tabkey to tarname -- to fix indenting select after line selectHere of the target break case = case + -- uncomment the line -- until Rev fixes the commandkey shortcut if not shK then pass controlkeydown if field is not in tarName then pass controlkeydown if revNewScriptEditor is not in tarName then pass controlkeydown put the selectedLine into tLineCh if to is in tLineCh then put word 2 of tLineCh into stLineNbr put word 4 of tLineCh into endLineNbr put line stLineNbr to endLineNbr of target into scriptLinesText repeat with n = 1 to the number of lines of scriptLinesText put sr(line n of scriptLinesText) into tLineText if char 1 to 2 of tLineText = - - then delete char 1 to 2 of tLineText put tLineText into line n of scriptLinesText end repeat put scriptLinesText into line stLineNbr to endLineNbr of the target else put sr(value(tLineCh)) into tLineText if char 1 to 2 of tLineText = -- then delete char 1 to 2 of tLineText do put tLineText into tLineCh end if end if doUndoSpace send tabkey to tarname break default pass controlkeydown end switch end controlkeydown private command doUndoSpace -- this solves the problem that after the above scripted operations -- the script editor remains unaware that the script has changed, -- so an enterkey will close but not save the changed script -- thus we have to *type* at least one character lock screen put the selectedText into selTxt type numToChar(32) -- the important step put word 4 of the selectedChunk into charNbr put selTxt into char charNbr of the target unlock screen end doUndoSpace function sr pText return word 1 to -1 of pText end sr On Jul 23, 2015, at 6:30 AM, Alan Stenhouse wrote: The uncomment keyboard shortcut has never worked for me either, would love if it did. Interestingly, after someone posted about holding open the menu and then trying it, it does work. Haven’t investigated further though. Wonder if it’s possibly related to having multiple keyboard languages available. Was surprised to hear from many that it works fine for them…!! Thought that it was again, one of those things… cheers Alan On 23 Jul 2015, at 12:00 pm, use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: I normally work on a 2009 iMac, but I?ve just installed LC 7.1.0(dp1) on my 2015 MacBook Pro and it?s doing exactly the same as the iMac, i.e. it doesn?t work correctly and adding the system shortcut is only a partial workaround. The MBP is also on OS X 10.10.4. I?ll head over to the bug report now. Paul On Jul 22, 2015, at 17:59, Jerry Jensen j...@jhj.com wrote: Oh thank you Paul! I am not crazy (well, not about that anyway!). What model computer are you using? Yes, please add this to the comments in the bug report. I do think it will help. .Jerry
Re: Underscore uncomment bug in OSX
Out of interest, what comment characters and indent do you have set in Livecode Preferences? I have -- and indent of 3 and wondering if some combination of those settings might trigger the problem. On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 2:20 PM Jerry Jensen j...@jhj.com wrote: On Jul 23, 2015, at 6:00 AM, Robert Brenstein r...@robelko.com wrote: On 22.07.2015 at 17:55 Uhr -0700 Jerry Jensen apparently wrote: Thanks for the suggestion, Robert. Yep - two different wired Apple keyboards (with and without numeric keypad) plugged directly into the MacBookPro or into a Thunderblt monitor. Also checked the System Preferences Keyboard pane - no joy. This also happened with some former MacBookPros. When I have a chance, I'll configure a virgin minimal system to try. .Jerry Is that an American keyboard? On some national keyboard layouts, one has to press the shift key to produce the underscore itself. Yes, a standard American English keyboard. Two different models and the internal keyboard of a MacBookPro. Some more things its not: Font in LC Prefs (set to Default 12 or 16) For sure not a customized shortcut in System Prefs Keyboard pane. Its not this physical hardware. I made a virgin Mavericks LC 6.7.6 external disk that works fine. It also works fine on another iMac here with Mavericks and LC 5.5.4. Its not something lurking in old My RunRev folders (now trashed). Anybody have more suggestions? I have a lot of old stuff on this computer - being a packrat I never throw anything away unless it bites me. How about removing LC Preferences? I forget where they are . . . .Jerry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Underscore uncomment bug in OSX
On Jul 23, 2015, at 6:00 AM, Robert Brenstein r...@robelko.com wrote: On 22.07.2015 at 17:55 Uhr -0700 Jerry Jensen apparently wrote: Thanks for the suggestion, Robert. Yep - two different wired Apple keyboards (with and without numeric keypad) plugged directly into the MacBookPro or into a Thunderblt monitor. Also checked the System Preferences Keyboard pane - no joy. This also happened with some former MacBookPros. When I have a chance, I'll configure a virgin minimal system to try. .Jerry Is that an American keyboard? On some national keyboard layouts, one has to press the shift key to produce the underscore itself. Yes, a standard American English keyboard. Two different models and the internal keyboard of a MacBookPro. Some more things its not: Font in LC Prefs (set to Default 12 or 16) For sure not a customized shortcut in System Prefs Keyboard pane. Its not this physical hardware. I made a virgin Mavericks LC 6.7.6 external disk that works fine. It also works fine on another iMac here with Mavericks and LC 5.5.4. Its not something lurking in old My RunRev folders (now trashed). Anybody have more suggestions? I have a lot of old stuff on this computer - being a packrat I never throw anything away unless it bites me. How about removing LC Preferences? I forget where they are . . . .Jerry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Underscore uncomment bug in OSX
On 22.07.2015 at 17:55 Uhr -0700 Jerry Jensen apparently wrote: Thanks for the suggestion, Robert. Yep - two different wired Apple keyboards (with and without numeric keypad) plugged directly into the MacBookPro or into a Thunderblt monitor. Also checked the System Preferences Keyboard pane - no joy. This also happened with some former MacBookPros. When I have a chance, I'll configure a virgin minimal system to try. .Jerry Is that an American keyboard? On some national keyboard layouts, one has to press the shift key to produce the underscore itself. RObert ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Underscore uncomment bug in OSX
Thanks for the suggestion, but I’m the same as you, “—“ and indent of 3. .Jerry On Jul 23, 2015, at 3:53 PM, Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com wrote: Out of interest, what comment characters and indent do you have set in Livecode Preferences? I have -- and indent of 3 and wondering if some combination of those settings might trigger the problem. On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 2:20 PM Jerry Jensen j...@jhj.com wrote: On Jul 23, 2015, at 6:00 AM, Robert Brenstein r...@robelko.com wrote: On 22.07.2015 at 17:55 Uhr -0700 Jerry Jensen apparently wrote: Thanks for the suggestion, Robert. Yep - two different wired Apple keyboards (with and without numeric keypad) plugged directly into the MacBookPro or into a Thunderblt monitor. Also checked the System Preferences Keyboard pane - no joy. This also happened with some former MacBookPros. When I have a chance, I'll configure a virgin minimal system to try. .Jerry Is that an American keyboard? On some national keyboard layouts, one has to press the shift key to produce the underscore itself. Yes, a standard American English keyboard. Two different models and the internal keyboard of a MacBookPro. Some more things its not: Font in LC Prefs (set to Default 12 or 16) For sure not a customized shortcut in System Prefs Keyboard pane. Its not this physical hardware. I made a virgin Mavericks LC 6.7.6 external disk that works fine. It also works fine on another iMac here with Mavericks and LC 5.5.4. Its not something lurking in old My RunRev folders (now trashed). Anybody have more suggestions? I have a lot of old stuff on this computer - being a packrat I never throw anything away unless it bites me. How about removing LC Preferences? I forget where they are . . . .Jerry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Underscore uncomment bug in OSX
The uncomment keyboard shortcut has never worked for me either, would love if it did. Interestingly, after someone posted about holding open the menu and then trying it, it does work. Haven’t investigated further though. Wonder if it’s possibly related to having multiple keyboard languages available. Was surprised to hear from many that it works fine for them…!! Thought that it was again, one of those things… cheers Alan On 23 Jul 2015, at 12:00 pm, use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: I normally work on a 2009 iMac, but I?ve just installed LC 7.1.0(dp1) on my 2015 MacBook Pro and it?s doing exactly the same as the iMac, i.e. it doesn?t work correctly and adding the system shortcut is only a partial workaround. The MBP is also on OS X 10.10.4. I?ll head over to the bug report now. Paul On Jul 22, 2015, at 17:59, Jerry Jensen j...@jhj.com wrote: Oh thank you Paul! I am not crazy (well, not about that anyway!). What model computer are you using? Yes, please add this to the comments in the bug report. I do think it will help. .Jerry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Underscore uncomment bug in OSX
Hi Jerry, The keyboard shortcut to uncomment works for me. This is on OSX 10.10.4 and LC 6.6.5 On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 1:20 PM Jerry Jensen j...@jhj.com wrote: Hello bug chasers, This is regarding bug report 11142: http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11142list_id=33024 I first reported this almost 2 years ago, and it had been happening for a while before that. I just received a note from Panos that it is fixed in 6.7.6 and probably before. It is still broken for me so I reopened the bug report. I just tested it in LC 5.5.4 and 6.7.6 with no externals or plugins and it still fails. It has never been observed to fail at RR HQ. I’m running OSX 10.10.4 with a stock Apple wired keyboard. Anybody else? Its quick to check with the recipe there. Thanks, Jerry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Underscore uncomment bug in OSX
Hello bug chasers, This is regarding bug report 11142: http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11142list_id=33024 I first reported this almost 2 years ago, and it had been happening for a while before that. I just received a note from Panos that it is fixed in 6.7.6 and probably before. It is still broken for me so I reopened the bug report. I just tested it in LC 5.5.4 and 6.7.6 with no externals or plugins and it still fails. It has never been observed to fail at RR HQ. I’m running OSX 10.10.4 with a stock Apple wired keyboard. Anybody else? Its quick to check with the recipe there. Thanks, Jerry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Underscore uncomment bug in OSX
On 07/22/2015 05:59 PM, Jerry Jensen wrote: Oh thank you Paul! I am not crazy I don't think that's a logical conclusion... it just means that now there are two of you. g -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Underscore uncomment bug in OSX
I normally work on a 2009 iMac, but I’ve just installed LC 7.1.0(dp1) on my 2015 MacBook Pro and it’s doing exactly the same as the iMac, i.e. it doesn’t work correctly and adding the system shortcut is only a partial workaround. The MBP is also on OS X 10.10.4. I’ll head over to the bug report now. Paul On Jul 22, 2015, at 17:59, Jerry Jensen j...@jhj.com wrote: Oh thank you Paul! I am not crazy (well, not about that anyway!). What model computer are you using? Yes, please add this to the comments in the bug report. I do think it will help. .Jerry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Underscore uncomment bug in OSX
Probably more, but at least we’re in good company!!! :) Paul On Jul 22, 2015, at 18:24, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: On 07/22/2015 05:59 PM, Jerry Jensen wrote: Oh thank you Paul! I am not crazy I don't think that's a logical conclusion... it just means that now there are two of you. g -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Underscore uncomment bug in OSX
It works for me too. I used the bug report stack and followed the directions carefully. Command - comments, Command shift - uncomments. I tried in 7.0.5, under Mac OS 10.11. On Jul 22, 2015, at 4:40 PM, Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com wrote: Hi Jerry, The keyboard shortcut to uncomment works for me. This is on OSX 10.10.4 and LC 6.6.5 On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 1:20 PM Jerry Jensen j...@jhj.com wrote: Hello bug chasers, This is regarding bug report 11142: http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11142list_id=33024 I first reported this almost 2 years ago, and it had been happening for a while before that. I just received a note from Panos that it is fixed in 6.7.6 and probably before. It is still broken for me so I reopened the bug report. I just tested it in LC 5.5.4 and 6.7.6 with no externals or plugins and it still fails. It has never been observed to fail at RR HQ. I’m running OSX 10.10.4 with a stock Apple wired keyboard. Anybody else? Its quick to check with the recipe there. Thanks, Jerry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Underscore uncomment bug in OSX
Jerry- Sorry to report that it works for me. Command-underscore comments Command-shift-underscore removes comments OSX 10.10.4 LC 6.7.7 rc1 Mac Air no third-party components -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Underscore uncomment bug in OSX
Hi Jerry, using your stack commenting and uncommenting works from the keyboard using MacOSX 10.9.5 and LC 7.1 DP1 LC 6.6.5 have you assigned a system wide shortcut via system preferences - keyboard by any chance? Just a guess. Kind regards Bernd -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Underscore-uncomment-bug-in-OSX-tp4694218p4694222.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Underscore uncomment bug in OSX
On 22.07.2015 at 16:56 Uhr -0700 Jerry Jensen apparently wrote: Thanks Mark, Peter, Colin and Bernd. Very mysterious! I'll try it on a few other computers at work when I get back there tomorrow. .Jerry Have you checked whether the behavior is keyboard related by chance? RObert ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Underscore uncomment bug in OSX
Oh thank you Paul! I am not crazy (well, not about that anyway!). What model computer are you using? Yes, please add this to the comments in the bug report. I do think it will help. .Jerry On Jul 22, 2015, at 5:50 PM, Paul Hibbert p...@livecode.org wrote: This has never worked for me on OS X with any version of LC and I had just got used to ignoring it. I have checked for conflicts and can’t find any. The strange thing is, the shortcut causes the ‘Edit’ menu to flash as though it is being chosen, then I found that if I click the ‘Edit’ menu once so it stays open and then use the shortcut it works! - Strange. But now seeing this works for other people I decided to play around with the keyboard control panel, under the ‘Shortcuts’ tab I added an App Shortcut for all applications as ‘Uncomment’ with the key combination of 'shift ctrl -‘. Well that shortcut doesn’t work, but it does show as the shortcut for ‘Uncomment’ in the ‘Edit’ menu of LC, but oddly, ‘shift cmd -‘ does sort of work with LC 6 7 (not 5). Now if the insertion cursor is on a line of commented text within a handler, using the shortcut will uncomment this line and also attempt to uncomment the line above, however, if the insertion cursor is on a line of commented text outside of a handler, using the shortcut will uncomment just the one line. I can add my comments to the bug report if you think it will help. I’m using LC7.0.6(rc3) on OS X 10.10.4 Baffled. Paul On Jul 22, 2015, at 16:56, Jerry Jensen j...@jhj.com wrote: On Jul 22, 2015, at 2:37 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Jerry- Sorry to report that it works for me. Command-underscore comments Command-shift-underscore removes comments OSX 10.10.4 LC 6.7.7 rc1 Mac Air no third-party components Thanks Mark, Peter, Colin and Bernd. Very mysterious! I’ll try it on a few other computers at work when I get back there tomorrow. .Jerry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode Regards, Paul Hibbert p...@livecode.org ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Underscore uncomment bug in OSX
On Jul 22, 2015, at 2:37 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Jerry- Sorry to report that it works for me. Command-underscore comments Command-shift-underscore removes comments OSX 10.10.4 LC 6.7.7 rc1 Mac Air no third-party components Thanks Mark, Peter, Colin and Bernd. Very mysterious! I’ll try it on a few other computers at work when I get back there tomorrow. .Jerry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Underscore uncomment bug in OSX
On Jul 22, 2015, at 5:41 PM, Robert Brenstein r...@robelko.com wrote: On 22.07.2015 at 16:56 Uhr -0700 Jerry Jensen apparently wrote: Thanks Mark, Peter, Colin and Bernd. Very mysterious! I'll try it on a few other computers at work when I get back there tomorrow. .Jerry Have you checked whether the behavior is keyboard related by chance? Thanks for the suggestion, Robert. Yep - two different wired Apple keyboards (with and without numeric keypad) plugged directly into the MacBookPro or into a Thunderblt monitor. Also checked the System Preferences Keyboard pane - no joy. This also happened with some former MacBookPros. When I have a chance, I’ll configure a virgin minimal system to try. .Jerry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Underscore uncomment bug in OSX
This has never worked for me on OS X with any version of LC and I had just got used to ignoring it. I have checked for conflicts and can’t find any. The strange thing is, the shortcut causes the ‘Edit’ menu to flash as though it is being chosen, then I found that if I click the ‘Edit’ menu once so it stays open and then use the shortcut it works! - Strange. But now seeing this works for other people I decided to play around with the keyboard control panel, under the ‘Shortcuts’ tab I added an App Shortcut for all applications as ‘Uncomment’ with the key combination of 'shift ctrl -‘. Well that shortcut doesn’t work, but it does show as the shortcut for ‘Uncomment’ in the ‘Edit’ menu of LC, but oddly, ‘shift cmd -‘ does sort of work with LC 6 7 (not 5). Now if the insertion cursor is on a line of commented text within a handler, using the shortcut will uncomment this line and also attempt to uncomment the line above, however, if the insertion cursor is on a line of commented text outside of a handler, using the shortcut will uncomment just the one line. I can add my comments to the bug report if you think it will help. I’m using LC7.0.6(rc3) on OS X 10.10.4 Baffled. Paul On Jul 22, 2015, at 16:56, Jerry Jensen j...@jhj.com wrote: On Jul 22, 2015, at 2:37 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Jerry- Sorry to report that it works for me. Command-underscore comments Command-shift-underscore removes comments OSX 10.10.4 LC 6.7.7 rc1 Mac Air no third-party components Thanks Mark, Peter, Colin and Bernd. Very mysterious! I’ll try it on a few other computers at work when I get back there tomorrow. .Jerry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode Regards, Paul Hibbert p...@livecode.org ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
