Re: specialfolderpaths on Windows >=8
Hi #Tiemo, > Am 15.04.2016 um 09:25 schrieb Tiemo Hollmann TB <toolb...@kestner.de>: > > Hi Klaus, > > is "firends" the short form for "fire nerds" and if yes what is a fire nerd? nope just the result of „made in eile“ :-D > To your question: I am using specialFolderPath(35) for an editable option > file and others and that works fine from Win XP to 10 thank you very much, that’s what i wanted to hear/read! > Tiemo > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag > von Klaus major-k > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 14. April 2016 19:33 > An: How to use LiveCode <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> > Betreff: specialfolderpaths on Windows >=8 > > Hi firends, > > on Wndows XP and 7, I usually to store user preferences in > -> specialFolderPath(35) > ### For all users! > resp. > -> specialfolderpath(26) > ## for the current user only! > > Is this still valid for Windows 8, 9 and 10? > Thanks a lot in advance! Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major-k.de ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
AW: specialfolderpaths on Windows >=8
Hi Klaus, is "firends" the short form for "fire nerds" and if yes what is a fire nerd? To your question: I am using specialFolderPath(35) for an editable option file and others and that works fine from Win XP to 10 Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Klaus major-k Gesendet: Donnerstag, 14. April 2016 19:33 An: How to use LiveCode <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> Betreff: specialfolderpaths on Windows >=8 Hi firends, on Wndows XP and 7, I usually to store user preferences in -> specialFolderPath(35) ### For all users! resp. -> specialfolderpath(26) ## for the current user only! Is this still valid for Windows 8, 9 and 10? Thanks a lot in advance! Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major-k.de ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: specialfolderpaths on Windows >=8
Will you ever give them the option to write certain files to the desktop or is that becoming a bad idea too? JB > On Apr 14, 2016, at 12:24 PM, Paul Dupuis <p...@researchware.com> wrote: > > On 4/14/2016 1:33 PM, Klaus major-k wrote: >> Hi firends, >> >> on Wndows XP and 7, I usually to store user preferences in >> -> specialFolderPath(35) >> ### For all users! >> resp. >> -> specialfolderpath(26) >> ## for the current user only! >> >> Is this still valid for Windows 8, 9 and 10? >> Thanks a lot in advance! >> > > We have a lot of Windows users of our cross-platform product. Many in > setting where their computers are on university of company networks, > some with remote home directory, and many with various parts of Windows > "locked" down for security. Increasing, I am realizing where Windows or > OSX, desktop OSes are going the way of Mobile OSes with Sandboxing,and > they want you to place everything in the User's Library, typically the > Documents which is becoming the only place you are still guaranteed to > have access to. Baring having to reduce scope to make deadlines, our > next release will test write access to a list of windows file locations > for an app's files and the last on the list will be Documents. We'll > just create a subfolder with our app name and place prefs and licensing > files and so in there. Eventually I think, we'll just use the Documents > folder. > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: specialfolderpaths on Windows >=8
On 4/14/2016 1:33 PM, Klaus major-k wrote: > Hi firends, > > on Wndows XP and 7, I usually to store user preferences in > -> specialFolderPath(35) > ### For all users! > resp. > -> specialfolderpath(26) > ## for the current user only! > > Is this still valid for Windows 8, 9 and 10? > Thanks a lot in advance! > We have a lot of Windows users of our cross-platform product. Many in setting where their computers are on university of company networks, some with remote home directory, and many with various parts of Windows "locked" down for security. Increasing, I am realizing where Windows or OSX, desktop OSes are going the way of Mobile OSes with Sandboxing,and they want you to place everything in the User's Library, typically the Documents which is becoming the only place you are still guaranteed to have access to. Baring having to reduce scope to make deadlines, our next release will test write access to a list of windows file locations for an app's files and the last on the list will be Documents. We'll just create a subfolder with our app name and place prefs and licensing files and so in there. Eventually I think, we'll just use the Documents folder. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
specialfolderpaths on Windows >=8
Hi firends, on Wndows XP and 7, I usually to store user preferences in -> specialFolderPath(35) ### For all users! resp. -> specialfolderpath(26) ## for the current user only! Is this still valid for Windows 8, 9 and 10? Thanks a lot in advance! Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major-k.de ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Windows 8 Image pixellation
I JUST posted another Win 8 font issue... maybe it is related. What version of LC are you using? SKIP On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 6:27 PM, William Prothero proth...@earthednet.org wrote: Folks: I have a desktop application that I’ve tested on MacOSX and Windows 7. I don’t have a copy of Windows 8 and before I do, I wonder if you could look at the two images and give me some hints about what might be going on in Windows 9. First, I see huge pixellation in the Windows 8 image. Second, the fonts are way off in the plot at the bottom, not to mention the huge pixellation problem. The map image is a much larger jpg that is reduced to the shown size and then screen captured. The shown map image is the captured image on top of the basic image. I do the screen capture so I can draw symbols into a reduced size image, which is much faster. Both the map image and the lower plot image are screen captures. So, the problem could be either in the original image display and reduction, or in the screen capture action.. The Macintosh (good) image is at: https://www.dropbox.com/s/0zvntz7jjsylgxj/Explorer on MacOSX.pdf?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/0zvntz7jjsylgxj/Explorer%20on%20MacOSX.pdf?dl=0 The Windows 8 version is at: https://www.dropbox.com/s/m2frv9i0dg7mxtp/Explorer in Windows 8.1.pdf?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/m2frv9i0dg7mxtp/Explorer%20in%20Windows%208.1.pdf?dl=0 I expect that I’ve left out some critical factor that applies to Windows 8 computers. This occurs on 2 students using Windows 8. One of the students is in Japan, the other is not. I don’t have any information on the students’ computers yet, and I haven’t got Windows 8 to start debuging, yet. So, just asking for ideas at this stage. Thanks a bunch, Bill William A. Prothero, Ph.D. University of California, Santa Barbara Dept. of Earth Sciences (Emeritus) Santa Barbara, CA. 93105 http://es.earthednet.org/ my new project link http://earthednet.org/ptExplorer/Cover.html ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Windows 8 Image pixellation
Folks: I have a desktop application that I’ve tested on MacOSX and Windows 7. I don’t have a copy of Windows 8 and before I do, I wonder if you could look at the two images and give me some hints about what might be going on in Windows 9. First, I see huge pixellation in the Windows 8 image. Second, the fonts are way off in the plot at the bottom, not to mention the huge pixellation problem. The map image is a much larger jpg that is reduced to the shown size and then screen captured. The shown map image is the captured image on top of the basic image. I do the screen capture so I can draw symbols into a reduced size image, which is much faster. Both the map image and the lower plot image are screen captures. So, the problem could be either in the original image display and reduction, or in the screen capture action.. The Macintosh (good) image is at: https://www.dropbox.com/s/0zvntz7jjsylgxj/Explorer on MacOSX.pdf?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/0zvntz7jjsylgxj/Explorer%20on%20MacOSX.pdf?dl=0 The Windows 8 version is at: https://www.dropbox.com/s/m2frv9i0dg7mxtp/Explorer in Windows 8.1.pdf?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/m2frv9i0dg7mxtp/Explorer%20in%20Windows%208.1.pdf?dl=0 I expect that I’ve left out some critical factor that applies to Windows 8 computers. This occurs on 2 students using Windows 8. One of the students is in Japan, the other is not. I don’t have any information on the students’ computers yet, and I haven’t got Windows 8 to start debuging, yet. So, just asking for ideas at this stage. Thanks a bunch, Bill William A. Prothero, Ph.D. University of California, Santa Barbara Dept. of Earth Sciences (Emeritus) Santa Barbara, CA. 93105 http://es.earthednet.org/ my new project link http://earthednet.org/ptExplorer/Cover.html ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Windows 8 Image pixellation
Skip: Hmm.. I compiled the project on March 28, whatever version of LC was current at that time. Probably 7.0.3. Sorry, the problem just came up and I probably can see what version compiled it, but I don’t know how. Bill On Jul 7, 2015, at 3:34 PM, Magicgate Software - Skip Kimpel s...@magicgate.com wrote: I JUST posted another Win 8 font issue... maybe it is related. What version of LC are you using? SKIP On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 6:27 PM, William Prothero proth...@earthednet.org wrote: Folks: I have a desktop application that I’ve tested on MacOSX and Windows 7. I don’t have a copy of Windows 8 and before I do, I wonder if you could look at the two images and give me some hints about what might be going on in Windows 9. First, I see huge pixellation in the Windows 8 image. Second, the fonts are way off in the plot at the bottom, not to mention the huge pixellation problem. The map image is a much larger jpg that is reduced to the shown size and then screen captured. The shown map image is the captured image on top of the basic image. I do the screen capture so I can draw symbols into a reduced size image, which is much faster. Both the map image and the lower plot image are screen captures. So, the problem could be either in the original image display and reduction, or in the screen capture action.. The Macintosh (good) image is at: https://www.dropbox.com/s/0zvntz7jjsylgxj/Explorer on MacOSX.pdf?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/0zvntz7jjsylgxj/Explorer%20on%20MacOSX.pdf?dl=0 The Windows 8 version is at: https://www.dropbox.com/s/m2frv9i0dg7mxtp/Explorer in Windows 8.1.pdf?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/m2frv9i0dg7mxtp/Explorer%20in%20Windows%208.1.pdf?dl=0 I expect that I’ve left out some critical factor that applies to Windows 8 computers. This occurs on 2 students using Windows 8. One of the students is in Japan, the other is not. I don’t have any information on the students’ computers yet, and I haven’t got Windows 8 to start debuging, yet. So, just asking for ideas at this stage. Thanks a bunch, Bill William A. Prothero, Ph.D. University of California, Santa Barbara Dept. of Earth Sciences (Emeritus) Santa Barbara, CA. 93105 http://es.earthednet.org/ my new project link http://earthednet.org/ptExplorer/Cover.html ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Revmail problems on Windows 8
David V Glasgow wrote: The good news is that using the launch url workaround recommended by Richard (below) worked fine. So anyone encountering the same issue can take this route. Thanks Richard. Why Revmail should fail in the way I have described is beyond me. Maybe brighter coders can take it from here. This is just a hunch, written in complete ignorance since I haven't read that part of the IDE's library, but ignorance hasn't stopped me from posting here before so here's my hunch: IIRC you'd experienced this on Windows only, yes? I believe revMail predates the engine's implementation of launch url. If so, and if revMail hasn't been updated to use launch url, it may be that it's using the older method of attempting shell calls for stuff launch url now does with more robust lower-level API calls. Windows shell options have undergone many changes since Vista forward, but Microsoft has a good reputation for maintaining backward compatibility for their lower-level APIs. If you have time to submit a bug report for this that would be very helpful, so they can update whatever's going on in that library to make sure it uses the engine's launch url call as smartly as you can do yourself. Once again, the old adage applies: Know the engine Trust the engine Use the engine Rather than seeing this as a workaround, I see it as using a newer feature that operates just a little closer to the OS. Any time we can reduce the distance between our scripts and the underlying OS we generally benefit. launch url not only makes a great replacement for revMail, but will handle any protocol that the system is set up to handle, including other common ones like ftp and http but also custom URL schemes as well. On 21 Jun 2015, at 3:15 pm, Richard Gaskin wrote: One simple workaround is to just use mailto:; directly with launch url:, e.g.: put someaddy at somedomain.com mailto:someaddy at somedomain.com into tAddress put Some Subject Line into tSubject put This is the body of the email into tBody put mailto:; tAddress ?subject= tSubject body= tBody \ into tURL launch url tURL -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Revmail problems on Windows 8
I originally sent this a couple of days ago, but it has never appeared on the list. Apologies if it ends up a double post…. Based on the advice received when I posted this issue, I checked the result immediately after the revmail line was executed. Interestingly, the result-put line was not executed where revmail failed. Where it succeeded, in dev and on mac it was executed and the result was empty. So it seems clear there is a problem, but sadly I have no specific error to report because when it arises, the script terminates. The good news is that using the launch url workaround recommended by Richard (below) worked fine. So anyone encountering the same issue can take this route. Thanks Richard. Why Revmail should fail in the way I have described is beyond me. Maybe brighter coders can take it from here. On 21 Jun 2015, at 3:15 pm, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com mailto:ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: One simple workaround is to just use mailto:; directly with launch url:, e.g.: put somea...@somedomain.com mailto:somea...@somedomain.com into tAddress put Some Subject Line into tSubject put This is the body of the email into tBody put mailto:; tAddress ?subject= tSubject body= tBody \ into tURL launch url tURL Best Wishes, David Glasgow http://www.i-psych.co.uk/i-psych.co.uk http://www.i-psych.co.uk/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Revmail problems on Windows 8
To which I might add, Don’t put bad gas in the engine Don’t over rev the engine Don’t try to pull the engine apart, then put it back together “more better” I’ll leave it up to everyone’s imaginations to determine what the coding correlations for these are. It’s only my intent to seem wise. Bob S On Jul 1, 2015, at 07:31 , Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.commailto:ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: Once again, the old adage applies: Know the engine Trust the engine Use the engine ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Revmail problems on Windows 8
Bless the engine, my son. -- Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA - Deeds Not Words On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Bob Sneidar bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com wrote: To which I might add, Don’t put bad gas in the engine Don’t over rev the engine Don’t try to pull the engine apart, then put it back together “more better” I’ll leave it up to everyone’s imaginations to determine what the coding correlations for these are. It’s only my intent to seem wise. Bob S On Jul 1, 2015, at 07:31 , Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com mailto:ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: Once again, the old adage applies: Know the engine Trust the engine Use the engine ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Revmail problems on Windows 8
David, A lot has to do with what email client is installed on that machine and if it is open and running. For consistent results, I usually call a VB script to create the email and then send it to the users Outlook client. I didn't write it but I would be more than happy to share it if you are interested. SKIP On Jun 21, 2015, at 9:25 AM, David V Glasgow dvglas...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Folks, I am just doing the final tweaks on an app designed for an NHS Trust to support clinical decision making . It is exclusively a Win environment. So far, apart from the usual font faff, the deployment platform hasn’t given me any real headaches. However, a week before roll out I have learned that a button designed as a last resort call for help doesn’t work. I had carefully tested all the complex stuff, but hadn’t bothered with this because it was a single line of script: revMail “Cluster.Buster@*.nhs.uk,,Cluster Buster - help I'm stuck It works fine in the dev environment, and on Mac standalones. On Windows 8 it does nothing. Just in case it was an inclusions thing, I switched to automatic inclusions, but this made no difference. Is there any possibility it is a security setting on the network? I can talk to the NHS Trust IT folks next week, but I am a bear of little brain when it comes to Win networks, and I could do with a few sensible pointers if this is a possibility. I noticed that just about 2 years ago Mark Stuart reported that Revmail didn’t then work on Windows 8. That couldn’t still be an issue, could it? Finally, are there any pointers to a simple alternative approach to Revmail? (bearing in mind I have no control and very little access to any aspects of the platform or network) Cheers, David Glasgow ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Revmail problems on Windows 8
David V Glasgow wrote: I had carefully tested all the complex stuff, but hadn’t bothered with this because it was a single line of script: revMail “Cluster.Buster@*.nhs.uk,,Cluster Buster - help I'm stuck It works fine in the dev environment, and on Mac standalones. On Windows 8 it does nothing. Just in case it was an inclusions thing, I switched to automatic inclusions, but this made no difference. Is there any possibility it is a security setting on the network? I can talk to the NHS Trust IT folks next week, but I am a bear of little brain when it comes to Win networks, and I could do with a few sensible pointers if this is a possibility. I noticed that just about 2 years ago Mark Stuart reported that Revmail didn’t then work on Windows 8. That couldn’t still be an issue, could it? Finally, are there any pointers to a simple alternative approach to Revmail? (bearing in mind I have no control and very little access to any aspects of the platform or network) revMail is just a wrapper for the mailto:; protocol designation. All it does is open a mail with the various specified fields already filled in (subject, to, body, etc.). As such, no networking is involved, since it's up to the email client to actually send the message. Well designed modern OSes ship with default apps assigned to handle http:, mailto:;, and often ftp: along with others. On Windows this is done through registry setting. I don't have Win 8.0 but I just tested mailto:; on Win 8.1 and it does indeed open the default email client. Perhaps revMail is working harder than it needs to, maybe predating launch url and attempting to do extra work that launch url can handle well for it today. If so it may be a bug, but I haven't looked into the revMail code to see what it's up to. One simple workaround is to just use mailto:; directly with launch url:, e.g.: put somea...@somedomain.com into tAddress put Some Subject Line into tSubject put This is the body of the email into tBody put mailto:; tAddress ?subject= tSubject body= tBody \ into tURL launch url tURL If that doesn't work it may be that the machine you're testing on has had its default email application assignment mucked up, either by one of the many known brittle aspects of the Windows registry or perhaps intentionally by admins who set up the system (though given how popular mailto:; is on Web pages that wouldn't have been a smart thing for an admin to do). What is the value of the result immediately after attempting revMail? This article may be helpful: http://blogs.technet.com/b/mrmlcgn/archive/2013/02/26/windows-8-associate-a-file-type-or-protocol-with-a-specific-app-using-a-gpo-e-g-default-mail-client-for-mailto-protocol.aspx -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Revmail problems on Windows 8
Hello Folks, I am just doing the final tweaks on an app designed for an NHS Trust to support clinical decision making . It is exclusively a Win environment. So far, apart from the usual font faff, the deployment platform hasn’t given me any real headaches. However, a week before roll out I have learned that a button designed as a last resort call for help doesn’t work. I had carefully tested all the complex stuff, but hadn’t bothered with this because it was a single line of script: revMail “Cluster.Buster@*.nhs.uk,,Cluster Buster - help I'm stuck It works fine in the dev environment, and on Mac standalones. On Windows 8 it does nothing. Just in case it was an inclusions thing, I switched to automatic inclusions, but this made no difference. Is there any possibility it is a security setting on the network? I can talk to the NHS Trust IT folks next week, but I am a bear of little brain when it comes to Win networks, and I could do with a few sensible pointers if this is a possibility. I noticed that just about 2 years ago Mark Stuart reported that Revmail didn’t then work on Windows 8. That couldn’t still be an issue, could it? Finally, are there any pointers to a simple alternative approach to Revmail? (bearing in mind I have no control and very little access to any aspects of the platform or network) Cheers, David Glasgow ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Having issue installing Android SDK with Windows 8
Am I missing something? Having issues installing Android SDK and getting LC to recognize it. Something changed or am I just not doing something right? Thank you, SKIP ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: How to show the Windows 8 on screen keyboard in LiveCode?
Hi Ralf, the following code lets the Windows on screen keyboard appear (needed for applications used in desktop mode: -- set the hideConsoleWindows to true # USE WINDOWS POWERSHELL set the itemDel to \ put item 1 to -2 of $PSModulePath \powershell.exe into tPowerShellPath set the shellCommand to tPowerShellPath get shell(start ' $CommonProgramW6432 \microsoft shared\ink\TabTip.exe') -- Note the use of single and double quotes! Sorry for soliloquizing but I thought this could be useful for others too. Ralf On 14.01.2015, at 17:47, Ralf Bitter ra...@revigniter.com wrote: Shouldn't the on screen keyboard of Windows 8 tablets pop up automatically on touching a text input control? A client who installed a standalone built with LiveCode 6.7.1 on a Toshiba tablet reports that the soft keyboard doesn't show up tapping a text input field. Thought that, as a workaround, one possibly could start the keyboard exe using launch or shell() like: launch C:/Program Files/Common Files/microsoft shared/ink/TabTip.exe yields not opened or get shell(start C:\Program Files\Common Files\microsoft shared\ink\TabTip.exe) yields The file C:/Program could not be found. or get shell(start tabtip.exe) yields The file tabtip.exe could not be found. Double checked the paths but all this fails, though start tabtip.exe definitely works from the Windows command shell in contrast to start C:\Program Files\Common Files\microsoft shared\ink\TabTip.exe. So, how do others show the on screen keyboard on Windows 8 tablets from LiveCode standalones? Any insights appreciated. Ralf ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
How to show the Windows 8 on screen keyboard in LiveCode?
Shouldn't the on screen keyboard of Windows 8 tablets pop up automatically on touching a text input control? A client who installed a standalone built with LiveCode 6.7.1 on a Toshiba tablet reports that the soft keyboard doesn't show up tapping a text input field. Thought that, as a workaround, one possibly could start the keyboard exe using launch or shell() like: launch C:/Program Files/Common Files/microsoft shared/ink/TabTip.exe yields not opened or get shell(start C:\Program Files\Common Files\microsoft shared\ink\TabTip.exe) yields The file C:/Program could not be found. or get shell(start tabtip.exe) yields The file tabtip.exe could not be found. Double checked the paths but all this fails, though start tabtip.exe definitely works from the Windows command shell in contrast to start C:\Program Files\Common Files\microsoft shared\ink\TabTip.exe. So, how do others show the on screen keyboard on Windows 8 tablets from LiveCode standalones? Any insights appreciated. Ralf ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
copying files in Windows 8
I have a little program where I copy some files from one folder to another with revCopyFile myFile,myFolder and also delete myFile The compiled program works fine on XP and Windows 7, but I get strange behavior on Windows 8. Is that perhaps because Windows 8 uses some different type of folder and file management? I am completely mystified. Thanks for any insights... Larry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
AW: copying files in Windows 8
Hi Larry, Up to now, I didn't experienced a difference between W7 and W8 related to the file system. Could you specify, what strange behavior you experience? Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von la...@significantplanet.org Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. September 2014 09:23 An: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Betreff: copying files in Windows 8 I have a little program where I copy some files from one folder to another with revCopyFile myFile,myFolder and also delete myFile The compiled program works fine on XP and Windows 7, but I get strange behavior on Windows 8. Is that perhaps because Windows 8 uses some different type of folder and file management? I am completely mystified. Thanks for any insights... Larry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Windows 8 and 8.1
Do Livecode standalones work on Winodws 8 and 8.1? And, if so, can you tell me what is the earliest version of Livecode that produces standalones that work on these systems? Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Windows 8 and 8.1
On 5/22/2014 4:03 PM, Richmond wrote: Do Livecode standalones work on Winodws 8 and 8.1? And, if so, can you tell me what is the earliest version of Livecode that produces standalones that work on these systems? I am not sure what the earliest is, but we have Standalones built under LC 4.6.4 running fine under Windows 8 and 8.1 (also build under LC 5.0.2, 5.5.5, and various 6.x versions) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Windows 8 and 8.1
On 22/05/14 23:07, Paul Dupuis wrote: On 5/22/2014 4:03 PM, Richmond wrote: Do Livecode standalones work on Winodws 8 and 8.1? And, if so, can you tell me what is the earliest version of Livecode that produces standalones that work on these systems? I am not sure what the earliest is, but we have Standalones built under LC 4.6.4 running fine under Windows 8 and 8.1 (also build under LC 5.0.2, 5.5.5, and various 6.x versions) ___ Thanks for that. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Windows 8 and 8.1
I built a standalone with the old Rev 2.9 that works fine on Windows 8. I'm not 100% sure if it works on 8.1, but I think so (I think one of my sons has 8.1) Hope that helps! - Original Message - From: Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 2:03 PM Subject: Windows 8 and 8.1 Do Livecode standalones work on Winodws 8 and 8.1? And, if so, can you tell me what is the earliest version of Livecode that produces standalones that work on these systems? Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Windows 8 and 8.1
On 22/05/14 23:19, la...@significantplanet.org wrote: I built a standalone with the old Rev 2.9 that works fine on Windows 8. I'm not 100% sure if it works on 8.1, but I think so (I think one of my sons has 8.1) Hope that helps! That's marvellous. I have a friend who runs Windows 8.1, and will phone him to ask if he minds if I can test run a standalone on his rig at the weekend. I have a professor (of Old Slavic) who wants my PISMO and runs Windows 8.1. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Windows 8 and 8.1
I believe anything we make that works in Windows 7 should also work in Windows 8 or 8.1. It's amazing how far computing has come in such a short time. I wish full computer OS' had been available on tablets sooner though. Would have made mobile apps easier to build, imho. http://www.amazon.com/Dell-Venue-Pro-Tablet-Windows/dp/B00FEE7B1I/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQbZP1Qkxyg On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.comwrote: Do Livecode standalones work on Winodws 8 and 8.1? And, if so, can you tell me what is the earliest version of Livecode that produces standalones that work on these systems? Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Windows 8 and 8.1
Hi, I have quite a few apps, built with Revolution 2.x, 3.x, and 4.x and LiveCode 4.x, 5.x and 6.x and they all seem to work. Once in a while, there is a version that won't run at all, but most versions of RR and LC work on every major Windows version, including Win XP, Win Vista, 7, 8 and 8.1. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Installer Maker for LiveCode: http://qery.us/468 Buy my new book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner http://qery.us/3fi LiveCode on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/runrev/ On 5/22/2014 22:19, la...@significantplanet.org wrote: I built a standalone with the old Rev 2.9 that works fine on Windows 8. I'm not 100% sure if it works on 8.1, but I think so (I think one of my sons has 8.1) Hope that helps! - Original Message - From: Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 2:03 PM Subject: Windows 8 and 8.1 Do Livecode standalones work on Winodws 8 and 8.1? And, if so, can you tell me what is the earliest version of Livecode that produces standalones that work on these systems? Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Windows 8 and 8.1
Thank you Paul Depuis, Larry, Roger Eller and Mark Schonewille for your help. I found that one can download a 90-day developer version of Windows 8.1 for free, did that just now, installed it in VMware Player and ran my standalone, and am extremely happy to say that it worked. My standalone was built using Livecode 4.5. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/hh699156.aspx Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Installing 6.6.1 Community on Windows 8
On 03/05/2014 06:48, Dar Scott wrote: I think so, since I just clicked a button when I did some privileged things (run as admin, OK some I/O). That is, I didn’t have to type in a password. The LiveCode installers handle privilege elevation themselves - it is best to not run them as an administrator (the bulk of the installer runs as an unprivileged programme and it is only the installer slave that runs with admin privileges). If that also doesn't work, let me know so it can be added to the bug database. Fraser ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Installing 6.6.1 Community on Windows 8
I use windows 8 on one of my laptops and there were some quirks that came along with the new graphics layer but I think they are getting ironed out at a fast enough pace. As for finding the control panel, one thing that became invaluable once i found it is right clicking on the windows logo on the task bar. This opens a context menu with fast access to the most important parts. On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 7:24 AM, Fraser Gordon fraser.gor...@runrev.comwrote: On 03/05/2014 06:48, Dar Scott wrote: I think so, since I just clicked a button when I did some privileged things (run as admin, OK some I/O). That is, I didn’t have to type in a password. The LiveCode installers handle privilege elevation themselves - it is best to not run them as an administrator (the bulk of the installer runs as an unprivileged programme and it is only the installer slave that runs with admin privileges). If that also doesn't work, let me know so it can be added to the bug database. Fraser ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Andrew Kluthe and...@ctech.me ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Installing 6.6.1 Community on Windows 8
Once I remembered what the igor had said, I ran it without any special admin privileges and “only me, so the working installing was that way. When I was having problems (any user), I tried both admin and not. The problem applied both to downloaded installers in the downloads folder and an installer copied from a network drive to the desktop. This is on parallels and the virtual machine file is on an external drive, but I wouldn’t think Windows or the installer would notice. I still haven’t beat Windows 8 into submission, uh, I mean, I haven’t learned my way around Windows 8, so I might be doing something goofy. Dar On May 3, 2014, at 6:24 AM, Fraser Gordon fraser.gor...@runrev.com wrote: On 03/05/2014 06:48, Dar Scott wrote: I think so, since I just clicked a button when I did some privileged things (run as admin, OK some I/O). That is, I didn’t have to type in a password. The LiveCode installers handle privilege elevation themselves - it is best to not run them as an administrator (the bulk of the installer runs as an unprivileged programme and it is only the installer slave that runs with admin privileges). If that also doesn't work, let me know so it can be added to the bug database. Fraser ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Installing 6.6.1 Community on Windows 8
Thanks! I still have trouble shutting down. There is a menu on the right that keeps popping out that allows shutdown, but I don’t know what I do to make it happen. Dar On May 3, 2014, at 7:38 AM, Andrew Kluthe and...@ctech.me wrote: I use windows 8 on one of my laptops and there were some quirks that came along with the new graphics layer but I think they are getting ironed out at a fast enough pace. As for finding the control panel, one thing that became invaluable once i found it is right clicking on the windows logo on the task bar. This opens a context menu with fast access to the most important parts. On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 7:24 AM, Fraser Gordon fraser.gor...@runrev.comwrote: On 03/05/2014 06:48, Dar Scott wrote: I think so, since I just clicked a button when I did some privileged things (run as admin, OK some I/O). That is, I didn’t have to type in a password. The LiveCode installers handle privilege elevation themselves - it is best to not run them as an administrator (the bulk of the installer runs as an unprivileged programme and it is only the installer slave that runs with admin privileges). If that also doesn't work, let me know so it can be added to the bug database. Fraser ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Andrew Kluthe and...@ctech.me ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Installing 6.6.1 Community on Windows 8
Hi! I have a Windows 8 Parallels machine I hardly use. I have installed 5.5.4 Commercial in the past. I’m trying to install LiveCode 6.6.1 Community. I run the installer as administrator. But, every time I get this: Could not launch installer slave. What am I doing wrong? Dar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Installing 6.6.1 Community on Windows 8
Dar Scott wrote: I have a Windows 8 Parallels machine I hardly use. I have installed 5.5.4 Commercial in the past. I’m trying to install LiveCode 6.6.1 Community. I run the installer as administrator. But, every time I get this: Could not launch installer slave. What am I doing wrong? Do you get the same behavior with 6.6.2 RC3? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/FourthWorldSys ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Installing 6.6.1 Community on Windows 8
Yep. 6.6.0, 6.6.1 and 6.6.2 RC3 all have the same problem. Well, I mean I have the same problem with all 3. I’m sure i’m doing something goofy. This is not from a network drive. This is right from the downloads folder. Do I need to change some security settings? Dar On May 2, 2014, at 6:31 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: Dar Scott wrote: I have a Windows 8 Parallels machine I hardly use. I have installed 5.5.4 Commercial in the past. I’m trying to install LiveCode 6.6.1 Community. I run the installer as administrator. But, every time I get this: Could not launch installer slave. What am I doing wrong? Do you get the same behavior with 6.6.2 RC3? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/FourthWorldSys ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Installing 6.6.1 Community on Windows 8
Has anybody successfully installed these versions on Windows 8? Surely someone has. Was it a real machine? Parallels? Dar On May 2, 2014, at 6:51 PM, Dar Scott d...@swcp.com wrote: Yep. 6.6.0, 6.6.1 and 6.6.2 RC3 all have the same problem. Well, I mean I have the same problem with all 3. I’m sure i’m doing something goofy. This is not from a network drive. This is right from the downloads folder. Do I need to change some security settings? Dar On May 2, 2014, at 6:31 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: Dar Scott wrote: I have a Windows 8 Parallels machine I hardly use. I have installed 5.5.4 Commercial in the past. I’m trying to install LiveCode 6.6.1 Community. I run the installer as administrator. But, every time I get this: Could not launch installer slave. What am I doing wrong? Do you get the same behavior with 6.6.2 RC3? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/FourthWorldSys ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Installing 6.6.1 Community on Windows 8
I tried several things and then remembered something one of the grandkids said. I installed for “only you”. It worked. Dar On May 2, 2014, at 9:33 PM, Dar Scott d...@swcp.com wrote: Has anybody successfully installed these versions on Windows 8? Surely someone has. Was it a real machine? Parallels? Dar On May 2, 2014, at 6:51 PM, Dar Scott d...@swcp.com wrote: Yep. 6.6.0, 6.6.1 and 6.6.2 RC3 all have the same problem. Well, I mean I have the same problem with all 3. I’m sure i’m doing something goofy. This is not from a network drive. This is right from the downloads folder. Do I need to change some security settings? Dar On May 2, 2014, at 6:31 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: Dar Scott wrote: I have a Windows 8 Parallels machine I hardly use. I have installed 5.5.4 Commercial in the past. I’m trying to install LiveCode 6.6.1 Community. I run the installer as administrator. But, every time I get this: Could not launch installer slave. What am I doing wrong? Do you get the same behavior with 6.6.2 RC3? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/FourthWorldSys ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Installing 6.6.1 Community on Windows 8
Dar Scott wrote: I tried several things and then remembered something one of the grandkids said. I installed for “only you”. It worked. Does your account have administrator privileges? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for Desktop, Mobile, and Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Installing 6.6.1 Community on Windows 8
I think so, since I just clicked a button when I did some privileged things (run as admin, OK some I/O). That is, I didn’t have to type in a password. However, this is Windows 8 and I haven’t learned how to get to the control panel yet. Dar On May 2, 2014, at 11:00 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: Dar Scott wrote: I tried several things and then remembered something one of the grandkids said. I installed for “only you”. It worked. Does your account have administrator privileges? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for Desktop, Mobile, and Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Quicktime and windows 8?
Hello, officially apple doesn't support windows 8 for quicktime anymore, though in my experiences the latest QT-player still runs on w8. The apple support even advises against installing QT on w8. Has anybody any insight in the future of QT on windows? Is it only a coincidence if it runs on w8 and there are other components on w8 which get into conflict with w8 so that it doesn't run on w8? Is it only a matter of time, until apple will support w8, or do they really have the strict policy not to support windows anymore? And if yes, what is the current alternative for us LC developers to create a cross platform Mac/Win application with videos? Any insight or experiences welcome Tiemo ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: PDF's to PNG's on Windows 8
2013/9/18 Ray Horsley r...@linkit.com So there's apparently no solution to this seemingly common need to be able to view and convert PDF files to single PNG's or JPEG's in Livecode. Suggestions? Hi Ray, There is a free pdf reader for Win32 / Win64 there: http://www.soraxsoft.com/index.html and they have a Sorax PDF SDK DLL too. A couple of years ago, I've built an external which roughly creates an image object in LC out of a pdf page, using their DLL. If you are interested, just let me know. Regards, Thierry Thierry Douez - http://sunny-tdz.com Maker of sunnYperl - sunnYmidi - sunnYmage ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: PDF's to PNG's on Windows 8
Just to say that I can endorse Thierry's external, which I'm using in a commercial product. I have not in fact tried it on Windows 8, but it should be fine as it works in Windows 7 and XP - if Thierry says it will work with Windows 8, I'm sure it will. It does exactly what I needed it to do, which is to make a bitmap within a PDF (in my case a geographical map) available to LiveCode. My product really doesn't need a Mac or a Linux version, but I must say it would be good if a robust cross-platform solution were available. I think it would be possible to code one entirely natively, but it would be a big job. One day... In fact there is a cross-platform program out there in the Open Source world, ImageMagick, but in my case I couldn't reconcile either the licensing terms or the way one was supposed to integrate it (or not) into one's product with what I needed, so Thierry came to my rescue. HTH Graham On 23 Sep 2013, at 08:53, Thierry Douez wrote: 2013/9/18 Ray Horsley r...@linkit.com So there's apparently no solution to this seemingly common need to be able to view and convert PDF files to single PNG's or JPEG's in Livecode. Suggestions? Hi Ray, There is a free pdf reader for Win32 / Win64 there: http://www.soraxsoft.com/index.html and they have a Sorax PDF SDK DLL too. A couple of years ago, I've built an external which roughly creates an image object in LC out of a pdf page, using their DLL. If you are interested, just let me know. Regards, Thierry Thierry Douez - http://sunny-tdz.com Maker of sunnYperl - sunnYmidi - sunnYmage ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: PDF's to PNG's on Windows 8
Hello Graham, 2013/9/23 Graham Samuel livf...@mac.com Just to say that I can endorse Thierry's external, which I'm using in a commercial product. I have not in fact tried it on Windows 8, but it should be fine as it works in Windows 7 and XP - if Thierry says it will work with Windows 8, I'm sure it will. It does exactly what I needed it to do, which is to make a bitmap within a PDF (in my case a geographical map) available to LiveCode. Thanks for your endorsement. Actually, I've never tried it on Windows 8, but considering the code of the external, this should not be a problem. ( don't have a win8 box here ) My product really doesn't need a Mac or a Linux version, but I must say it would be good if a robust cross-platform solution were available. I think it would be possible to code one entirely natively, but it would be a big job. One day... In fact there is a cross-platform program out there in the Open Source world, ImageMagick, but in my case I couldn't reconcile either the licensing terms or the way one was supposed to integrate it (or not) into one's product with what I needed, so Thierry came to my rescue. HTH Graham On 23 Sep 2013, at 08:53, Thierry Douez wrote: 2013/9/18 Ray Horsley r...@linkit.com So there's apparently no solution to this seemingly common need to be able to view and convert PDF files to single PNG's or JPEG's in Livecode. Suggestions? Hi Ray, There is a free pdf reader for Win32 / Win64 there: http://www.soraxsoft.com/index.html and they have a Sorax PDF SDK DLL too. A couple of years ago, I've built an external which roughly creates an image object in LC out of a pdf page, using their DLL. If you are interested, just let me know. Regards, Thierry Thierry Douez - http://sunny-tdz.com Maker of sunnYperl - sunnYmidi - sunnYmage ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: PDF's to PNG's on Windows 8
Hi Thierry, I too could use such a great external. We use PDFs extensively, and it has been an ongoing need to access them with LiveCode (on Windows). Do you plan to market your external to the LiveCode Community? One question: Does it offer any control over the bitmap resolution? ~Roger On Sep 23, 2013 7:10 AM, Thierry Douez th.do...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Graham, 2013/9/23 Graham Samuel livf...@mac.com Just to say that I can endorse Thierry's external, which I'm using in a commercial product. I have not in fact tried it on Windows 8, but it should be fine as it works in Windows 7 and XP - if Thierry says it will work with Windows 8, I'm sure it will. It does exactly what I needed it to do, which is to make a bitmap within a PDF (in my case a geographical map) available to LiveCode. Thanks for your endorsement. Actually, I've never tried it on Windows 8, but considering the code of the external, this should not be a problem. ( don't have a win8 box here ) My product really doesn't need a Mac or a Linux version, but I must say it would be good if a robust cross-platform solution were available. I think it would be possible to code one entirely natively, but it would be a big job. One day... In fact there is a cross-platform program out there in the Open Source world, ImageMagick, but in my case I couldn't reconcile either the licensing terms or the way one was supposed to integrate it (or not) into one's product with what I needed, so Thierry came to my rescue. HTH Graham On 23 Sep 2013, at 08:53, Thierry Douez wrote: 2013/9/18 Ray Horsley r...@linkit.com So there's apparently no solution to this seemingly common need to be able to view and convert PDF files to single PNG's or JPEG's in Livecode. Suggestions? Hi Ray, There is a free pdf reader for Win32 / Win64 there: http://www.soraxsoft.com/index.html and they have a Sorax PDF SDK DLL too. A couple of years ago, I've built an external which roughly creates an image object in LC out of a pdf page, using their DLL. If you are interested, just let me know. Regards, Thierry Thierry Douez - http://sunny-tdz.com Maker of sunnYperl - sunnYmidi - sunnYmage ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: PDF's to PNG's on Windows 8
Hi Roger, Sure, you can get it. And about the bitmap resolution, yes, it works but again, as I did this job a couple of years ago, I have to dig in this project for the details, which I can't right now. Please, contact me off-list for more info. Kind regards, Thierry 2013/9/23 Roger Eller roger.e.el...@sealedair.com Hi Thierry, I too could use such a great external. We use PDFs extensively, and it has been an ongoing need to access them with LiveCode (on Windows). Do you plan to market your external to the LiveCode Community? One question: Does it offer any control over the bitmap resolution? ~Roger On Sep 23, 2013 7:10 AM, Thierry Douez th.do...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Graham, 2013/9/23 Graham Samuel livf...@mac.com Just to say that I can endorse Thierry's external, which I'm using in a commercial product. I have not in fact tried it on Windows 8, but it should be fine as it works in Windows 7 and XP if Thierry says it will work with Windows 8, I'm sure it will. It does exactly what I needed it to do Thanks for your endorsement. Actually, I've never tried it on Windows 8, but considering the code of the external, this should not be a problem. ( don't have a win8 box here ) HTH Graham On 23 Sep 2013, at 08:53, Thierry Douez wrote: 2013/9/18 Ray Horsley r...@linkit.com So there's apparently no solution to this seemingly common need to be able to view and convert PDF files to single PNG's or JPEG's in Livecode. Suggestions? Hi Ray, There is a free pdf reader for Win32 / Win64 there: http://www.soraxsoft.com/index.html and they have a Sorax PDF SDK DLL too. A couple of years ago, I've built an external which roughly creates an image object in LC out of a pdf page, using their DLL. If you are interested, just let me know. Thierry Douez - http://sunny-tdz.com Maker of sunnYperl - sunnYmidi - sunnYmage ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
PDF's to PNG's on Windows 8
Sorry to bring this topic back up again but it seems there's no solution for this. Installing QuickTime on Windows does not display PDF's in a player object. This is odd since this works wonderfully on a Mac. Yrying to display PDF's in a browser object opens Adobe's Reader which, in Windows' very blunt way, hogs the entire screen burdening the user with lots of work just to get back to LiveCode. Even if this worked I'm not sure how I'd determine the number of pages and move through them to get the snapshots. Quartam Software has a nice PDF package but it only does the opposite by creating PDF files in Livecode. So there's apparently no solution to this seemingly common need to be able to view and convert PDF files to single PNG's or JPEG's in Livecode. Suggestions? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: PDF's to PNG's on Windows 8
In the past I have used pre-rolled command line utilities for that. I am not sure if this is the specific one I use, but I used imagemagick before to accomplish this as well. http://www.pdftron.com/pdf2image/ That particular utility is cross platform i believe. Andrew On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Ray Horsley r...@linkit.com wrote: Sorry to bring this topic back up again but it seems there's no solution for this. Installing QuickTime on Windows does not display PDF's in a player object. This is odd since this works wonderfully on a Mac. Yrying to display PDF's in a browser object opens Adobe's Reader which, in Windows' very blunt way, hogs the entire screen burdening the user with lots of work just to get back to LiveCode. Even if this worked I'm not sure how I'd determine the number of pages and move through them to get the snapshots. Quartam Software has a nice PDF package but it only does the opposite by creating PDF files in Livecode. So there's apparently no solution to this seemingly common need to be able to view and convert PDF files to single PNG's or JPEG's in Livecode. Suggestions? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Andrew Kluthe and...@ctech.me ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: PDF's to PNG's on Windows 8
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 7:58 AM, Roger Eller roger.e.el...@sealedair.comwrote: This software can be controlled by LiveCode using shell commands to its command-line interface. http://www.softinterface.com/Convert-PDF-To-Image/Convert-PDF-To-Tiff.htm Windows only. -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: PDF's to PNG's on Windows 8
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 3:27 PM, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 7:58 AM, Roger Eller roger.e.el...@sealedair.com wrote: This software can be controlled by LiveCode using shell commands to its command-line interface. http://www.softinterface.com/Convert-PDF-To-Image/Convert-PDF-To-Tiff.htm Windows only. Yep. That would seem to meet the requirement of the request by the OP: PDF's to PNG's on Windows 8. -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA ~Roger ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: PDF's to PNG's on Windows 8
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 7:56 AM, Andrew Kluthe and...@ctech.me wrote: In the past I have used pre-rolled command line utilities for that. I am not sure if this is the specific one I use, but I used imagemagick before to accomplish this as well. Also, imageMagick is under a non-viral license, so you could compile the subset you need so ship along with commercial code. -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: PDF's to PNG's on Windows 8
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Roger Eller roger.e.el...@sealedair.comwrote: Yep. That would seem to meet the requirement of the request by the OP: PDF's to PNG's on Windows 8. my reasoning was to include that info in the archives to save someone time in a search for Mac or x-platform situation. -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: PDF's to PNG's on Windows 8
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 4:48 PM, stephen barncard wrote: On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Roger Eller wrote: Yep. That would seem to meet the requirement of the request by the OP: PDF's to PNG's on Windows 8. my reasoning was to include that info in the archives to save someone time in a search for Mac or x-platform situation. I agree, whenever possible x-plat code is preferred. I wish it were possible more often. -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA ~Roger ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: PDF's to PNG's on Windows 8
Many thanks for these suggestions! With PDF's being used so broadly does anybody else feel that this would be a worthwhile addition to Livecode? Imagine simply being able to read a PDF file into an array, or being able to write an array out to a file to create a PDF. On Sep 18, 2013, at 4:52 PM, Roger Eller wrote: On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 4:48 PM, stephen barncard wrote: On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Roger Eller wrote: Yep. That would seem to meet the requirement of the request by the OP: PDF's to PNG's on Windows 8. my reasoning was to include that info in the archives to save someone time in a search for Mac or x-platform situation. I agree, whenever possible x-plat code is preferred. I wish it were possible more often. -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA ~Roger ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: PDF's to PNG's on Windows 8
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Ray Horsley r...@linkit.com wrote: Many thanks for these suggestions! With PDF's being used so broadly does anybody else feel that this would be a worthwhile addition to Livecode? Imagine simply being able to read a PDF file into an array, or being able to write an array out to a file to create a PDF. I think it's critical--my output *must* be pdf :) I particularly need to be able to stick an external pdf page in between pages of my pdf output -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
some sounds not playing on Windows 8
We've got a project that involves many sounds, all accessed through players. On most cards the controller is visible; on two cards with shorter sounds, we have small buttons that set the filename of an invisible player and start it playing. It's been working well on Mac, XP, and Windows 7. We've just had a report from a user on Windows 8 that sounds are working properly only on the cards with buttons and the invisible player. On cards with controller bars, the sound doesn't work (haven't been able to get more detail as to what exactly does/doesn't happen). I haven't been able to get confirmation that the customer has QuickTime installed, though I would have assumed that if it's not, no sounds would play at all. Anyone have any ideas why the controller might not work on Windows 8, though sounds played by an invisible controller do work? -Curt ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
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revBrowser and Windows 8
Has anyone else experienced problems using the revBrowser on Windows 8? We use the revBrowser to access a webinar site that uses Flash Player. On Windows 8, the revBrowser connects to the page, but it takes anywhere from 10 mins to an hour for it to fully connect and log in. Going to the same page in a native browser, the page connects right away. And on all other systems, the revBrowser is able to connect properly to the site. Any ideas? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sending an email on Windows 8
Hi all, I've reported this issue of trying to send an email from LC on Windows 8 Desktop. RR has reported back to me that using revMail someb...@ddd.com does not work on Win8. Here's the RunRev report bug: http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10639 Other methods of sending an email on Win8 still work: launch URL and revGoURL - Regards, Mark Stuart --- LC: 4.6.4 WinXP/7/8 32bit and 64bit -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Sending-an-email-on-Windows-8-tp4658707p4658891.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sending an email on Windows 8
Hi, I was able to resolve sending an email on Windows 8. It was a syntax issue. Mark Stuart - Regards, Mark Stuart --- LC: 4.6.4 WinXP/7/8 32bit and 64bit -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Sending-an-email-on-Windows-8-tp4658707p4658808.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sending an email on Windows 8
Actually no, my understanding I confess comes from listening to Leo LaPorte, the Tech Guy radio program on KFI Radio in Los Angeles. Someone called asking if he should upgrade to Windows 8 and that was his assessment. That is why it was my understanding and not my experience. :-) I have had experience using a stylus based interface though many years ago, when I was evaluating whether or not we should purchase one for the graphics department, and I can tell you that it became quite tedious reaching for the apple menu or any menu pretty quickly, especially on large screens. I remember telling myself, This will never take the place of a mouse or trackball. Bob On Jan 8, 2013, at 12:27 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: Bob, Is your judgement because you have sat down with a Windows 8 touch screen computer for an hour? I'm curious because I'm very interested in buying a small Window 8 laptop (11 screen). I've only played on it for perhaps 10 minutes in the store but I didn't really notice any problems using the touchscreen side of things. I found myself much preferring to touch the screen than use the mousepad. Then again, I was mostly in a web browser not a real desktop app. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Robert Sneidar slylab...@me.com wrote: I'm going to venture an educated guess. From all I have heard, Win8 is really optimized for touch interfaces. While you CAN use it on a desktop system, there do not seem to be any compelling reasons for doing so, over Win7. Steve Jobs had it right. Use a touch based OS on a desktop for just an hour, and you will see why point and click is the way to go on these systems. Desktop apps that need lots of screen real estate or need a lot of processing power flourish on large monitor point and click systems, but flounder on touch interfaces. Not all apps need the screen real estate or use a lot of resources. These do well on tablet touch systems. I do not think tablet/touch OSes are replacing desktop systems. I think that the process is more like a re-calibration of the equilibrium between what most people have needed all along, a simple tablet touch OS, and professional systems that need the power and screen real estate to function well. Just my 2¢ Bob On Jan 8, 2013, at 7:38 AM, Mark Stuart wrote: Wow! I guess no one is using Windows 8. - Regards, Mark Stuart ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sending an email on Windows 8
OK thanks. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Robert Sneidar slylab...@me.com wrote: Actually no, my understanding I confess comes from listening to Leo LaPorte, the Tech Guy radio program on KFI Radio in Los Angeles. Someone called asking if he should upgrade to Windows 8 and that was his assessment. That is why it was my understanding and not my experience. :-) I have had experience using a stylus based interface though many years ago, when I was evaluating whether or not we should purchase one for the graphics department, and I can tell you that it became quite tedious reaching for the apple menu or any menu pretty quickly, especially on large screens. I remember telling myself, This will never take the place of a mouse or trackball. Bob On Jan 8, 2013, at 12:27 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: Bob, Is your judgement because you have sat down with a Windows 8 touch screen computer for an hour? I'm curious because I'm very interested in buying a small Window 8 laptop (11 screen). I've only played on it for perhaps 10 minutes in the store but I didn't really notice any problems using the touchscreen side of things. I found myself much preferring to touch the screen than use the mousepad. Then again, I was mostly in a web browser not a real desktop app. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Robert Sneidar slylab...@me.com wrote: I'm going to venture an educated guess. From all I have heard, Win8 is really optimized for touch interfaces. While you CAN use it on a desktop system, there do not seem to be any compelling reasons for doing so, over Win7. Steve Jobs had it right. Use a touch based OS on a desktop for just an hour, and you will see why point and click is the way to go on these systems. Desktop apps that need lots of screen real estate or need a lot of processing power flourish on large monitor point and click systems, but flounder on touch interfaces. Not all apps need the screen real estate or use a lot of resources. These do well on tablet touch systems. I do not think tablet/touch OSes are replacing desktop systems. I think that the process is more like a re-calibration of the equilibrium between what most people have needed all along, a simple tablet touch OS, and professional systems that need the power and screen real estate to function well. Just my 2¢ Bob On Jan 8, 2013, at 7:38 AM, Mark Stuart wrote: Wow! I guess no one is using Windows 8. - Regards, Mark Stuart ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sending an email on Windows 8
Wow! I guess no one is using Windows 8. - Regards, Mark Stuart -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Sending-an-email-on-Windows-8-tp4658707p4658741.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sending an email on Windows 8
I'm going to venture an educated guess. From all I have heard, Win8 is really optimized for touch interfaces. While you CAN use it on a desktop system, there do not seem to be any compelling reasons for doing so, over Win7. Steve Jobs had it right. Use a touch based OS on a desktop for just an hour, and you will see why point and click is the way to go on these systems. Desktop apps that need lots of screen real estate or need a lot of processing power flourish on large monitor point and click systems, but flounder on touch interfaces. Not all apps need the screen real estate or use a lot of resources. These do well on tablet touch systems. I do not think tablet/touch OSes are replacing desktop systems. I think that the process is more like a re-calibration of the equilibrium between what most people have needed all along, a simple tablet touch OS, and professional systems that need the power and screen real estate to function well. Just my 2¢ Bob On Jan 8, 2013, at 7:38 AM, Mark Stuart wrote: Wow! I guess no one is using Windows 8. - Regards, Mark Stuart ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sending an email on Windows 8
Robert, And I'll up your 2¢ with my 2¢ by submitting this as a tech support question to RR. :) When I hear from them, I'll let you know. - Regards, Mark Stuart --- LC: 4.6.4 WinXP/7/8 32bit and 64bit -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Sending-an-email-on-Windows-8-tp4658707p4658749.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sending an email on Windows 8
Bob, Is your judgement because you have sat down with a Windows 8 touch screen computer for an hour? I'm curious because I'm very interested in buying a small Window 8 laptop (11 screen). I've only played on it for perhaps 10 minutes in the store but I didn't really notice any problems using the touchscreen side of things. I found myself much preferring to touch the screen than use the mousepad. Then again, I was mostly in a web browser not a real desktop app. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Robert Sneidar slylab...@me.com wrote: I'm going to venture an educated guess. From all I have heard, Win8 is really optimized for touch interfaces. While you CAN use it on a desktop system, there do not seem to be any compelling reasons for doing so, over Win7. Steve Jobs had it right. Use a touch based OS on a desktop for just an hour, and you will see why point and click is the way to go on these systems. Desktop apps that need lots of screen real estate or need a lot of processing power flourish on large monitor point and click systems, but flounder on touch interfaces. Not all apps need the screen real estate or use a lot of resources. These do well on tablet touch systems. I do not think tablet/touch OSes are replacing desktop systems. I think that the process is more like a re-calibration of the equilibrium between what most people have needed all along, a simple tablet touch OS, and professional systems that need the power and screen real estate to function well. Just my 2¢ Bob On Jan 8, 2013, at 7:38 AM, Mark Stuart wrote: Wow! I guess no one is using Windows 8. - Regards, Mark Stuart ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sending an email on Windows 8
HP tried touch screens decades ago (in the '80s). Finger prints were a major problem - and I don't believe that problem has gone away. It is one thing to wipe a phone or tablet on you sleeve vs cleaning a large monitor. Paul Looney On Jan 8, 2013, at 12:27 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: Bob, Is your judgement because you have sat down with a Windows 8 touch screen computer for an hour? I'm curious because I'm very interested in buying a small Window 8 laptop (11 screen). I've only played on it for perhaps 10 minutes in the store but I didn't really notice any problems using the touchscreen side of things. I found myself much preferring to touch the screen than use the mousepad. Then again, I was mostly in a web browser not a real desktop app. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Robert Sneidar slylab...@me.com wrote: I'm going to venture an educated guess. From all I have heard, Win8 is really optimized for touch interfaces. While you CAN use it on a desktop system, there do not seem to be any compelling reasons for doing so, over Win7. Steve Jobs had it right. Use a touch based OS on a desktop for just an hour, and you will see why point and click is the way to go on these systems. Desktop apps that need lots of screen real estate or need a lot of processing power flourish on large monitor point and click systems, but flounder on touch interfaces. Not all apps need the screen real estate or use a lot of resources. These do well on tablet touch systems. I do not think tablet/touch OSes are replacing desktop systems. I think that the process is more like a re-calibration of the equilibrium between what most people have needed all along, a simple tablet touch OS, and professional systems that need the power and screen real estate to function well. Just my 2¢ Bob On Jan 8, 2013, at 7:38 AM, Mark Stuart wrote: Wow! I guess no one is using Windows 8. - Regards, Mark Stuart ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sending an email on Windows 8
See Gorilla Arm: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorilla_arm#.22Gorilla_arm.22 Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design On 1/8/13 12:27 PM, Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com wrote: Bob, Is your judgement because you have sat down with a Windows 8 touch screen computer for an hour? I'm curious because I'm very interested in buying a small Window 8 laptop (11 screen). I've only played on it for perhaps 10 minutes in the store but I didn't really notice any problems using the touchscreen side of things. I found myself much preferring to touch the screen than use the mousepad. Then again, I was mostly in a web browser not a real desktop app. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Robert Sneidar slylab...@me.com wrote: I'm going to venture an educated guess. From all I have heard, Win8 is really optimized for touch interfaces. While you CAN use it on a desktop system, there do not seem to be any compelling reasons for doing so, over Win7. Steve Jobs had it right. Use a touch based OS on a desktop for just an hour, and you will see why point and click is the way to go on these systems. Desktop apps that need lots of screen real estate or need a lot of processing power flourish on large monitor point and click systems, but flounder on touch interfaces. Not all apps need the screen real estate or use a lot of resources. These do well on tablet touch systems. I do not think tablet/touch OSes are replacing desktop systems. I think that the process is more like a re-calibration of the equilibrium between what most people have needed all along, a simple tablet touch OS, and professional systems that need the power and screen real estate to function well. Just my 2¢ Bob On Jan 8, 2013, at 7:38 AM, Mark Stuart wrote: Wow! I guess no one is using Windows 8. - Regards, Mark Stuart ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sending an email on Windows 8
Yeah, I remember those HP touch screens. Pretty revolutionary at the time! Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Paul Looney simpl...@aol.com wrote: HP tried touch screens decades ago (in the '80s). Finger prints were a major problem - and I don't believe that problem has gone away. It is one thing to wipe a phone or tablet on you sleeve vs cleaning a large monitor. Paul Looney On Jan 8, 2013, at 12:27 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: Bob, Is your judgement because you have sat down with a Windows 8 touch screen computer for an hour? I'm curious because I'm very interested in buying a small Window 8 laptop (11 screen). I've only played on it for perhaps 10 minutes in the store but I didn't really notice any problems using the touchscreen side of things. I found myself much preferring to touch the screen than use the mousepad. Then again, I was mostly in a web browser not a real desktop app. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Robert Sneidar slylab...@me.com wrote: I'm going to venture an educated guess. From all I have heard, Win8 is really optimized for touch interfaces. While you CAN use it on a desktop system, there do not seem to be any compelling reasons for doing so, over Win7. Steve Jobs had it right. Use a touch based OS on a desktop for just an hour, and you will see why point and click is the way to go on these systems. Desktop apps that need lots of screen real estate or need a lot of processing power flourish on large monitor point and click systems, but flounder on touch interfaces. Not all apps need the screen real estate or use a lot of resources. These do well on tablet touch systems. I do not think tablet/touch OSes are replacing desktop systems. I think that the process is more like a re-calibration of the equilibrium between what most people have needed all along, a simple tablet touch OS, and professional systems that need the power and screen real estate to function well. Just my 2¢ Bob On Jan 8, 2013, at 7:38 AM, Mark Stuart wrote: Wow! I guess no one is using Windows 8. - Regards, Mark Stuart ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sending an email on Windows 8
Mark Stuart mfstuart@... writes: Wow! I guess no one is using Windows 8. My developer preview in a VM expires on the 15th. I won't miss it. -- Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sending an email on Windows 8
Your syntax was just missing a question mark prior to the ampersand: put mailto:myem...@gmail.com?subject=; tSubject into tMessage revGoURL tMessage On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Mark Stuart mfstuart@... writes: Wow! I guess no one is using Windows 8. My developer preview in a VM expires on the 15th. I won't miss it. -- Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- I am CDO. This is a lot like OCD, except the letters are in alphabetical order... as they should be. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Sending an email on Windows 8
Hi all, I'm trying to send an email on Windows 8, from LiveCode 4.6.4. I've tried each of the following: put mailto:myem...@gmail.comsubject=; tSubject into tMessage revGoURL tMessage --this opens the default mail client, and puts the email address AND subject into the To field. launch URL tMessage -- same result as revGoURL revMail myem...@gmail.com, , tSubject, tBody --this does nothing So what works? Any ideas? - Regards, Mark Stuart -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Sending-an-email-on-Windows-8-tp4658707.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Windows 8 Compatibility
Anybody tried the development environment and / or a compiled executable on Windows 8 yet? Any issues or problems? SKIP ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Windows 8 Compatibility
On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Magicgate Software - Skip Kimpel s...@magicgate.com wrote: Anybody tried the development environment and / or a compiled executable on Windows 8 yet? Any issues or problems? SKIP I'm already running Win 8 full time with LC 4.53 without any problems at all. I don't have any of the mobile platforms, so can't say on that side of the coin. -- Best regards, David C. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Windows 8 Compatibility
My understanding is that Win8 on Intel will continue to work fine, but my concern is that Win8 is also available for ARM, and we don't currently have ARM compiles of the LC engine for either of the platforms that run on ARM (Win and Linux). Fingers crossed that we'll see that soon -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/FourthWorldSys ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Windows 8 Compatibility
Hi David, Have you tried any sqlite stuff with LC/W8? I'm not 100% sure but I think a special version of the sqlite librar is needed to run on W8, would be good to get confirmation/denial of that. Pete Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 8:41 AM, David C. davidoco...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Magicgate Software - Skip Kimpel s...@magicgate.com wrote: Anybody tried the development environment and / or a compiled executable on Windows 8 yet? Any issues or problems? SKIP I'm already running Win 8 full time with LC 4.53 without any problems at all. I don't have any of the mobile platforms, so can't say on that side of the coin. -- Best regards, David C. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Windows 8 Compatibility
The current version of livecode and sqlite work fine on the Intel version of Windows 8. If anything id say they zip along quite a bit faster. Andy On 3 Nov 2012, at 16:55, Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com wrote: Hi David, Have you tried any sqlite stuff with LC/W8? I'm not 100% sure but I think a special version of the sqlite librar is needed to run on W8, would be good to get confirmation/denial of that. Pete Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 8:41 AM, David C. davidoco...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Magicgate Software - Skip Kimpel s...@magicgate.com wrote: Anybody tried the development environment and / or a compiled executable on Windows 8 yet? Any issues or problems? SKIP I'm already running Win 8 full time with LC 4.53 without any problems at all. I don't have any of the mobile platforms, so can't say on that side of the coin. -- Best regards, David C. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Windows 8 Compatibility
Thanks Andy. There have been some posts about this on the sqlite discussion list but I guess I must havce misunderstood what was being said. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Andrew Henshaw hens...@me.com wrote: The current version of livecode and sqlite work fine on the Intel version of Windows 8. If anything id say they zip along quite a bit faster. Andy On 3 Nov 2012, at 16:55, Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com wrote: Hi David, Have you tried any sqlite stuff with LC/W8? I'm not 100% sure but I think a special version of the sqlite librar is needed to run on W8, would be good to get confirmation/denial of that. Pete Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 8:41 AM, David C. davidoco...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Magicgate Software - Skip Kimpel s...@magicgate.com wrote: Anybody tried the development environment and / or a compiled executable on Windows 8 yet? Any issues or problems? SKIP I'm already running Win 8 full time with LC 4.53 without any problems at all. I don't have any of the mobile platforms, so can't say on that side of the coin. -- Best regards, David C. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Windows 8
On Monday, July 30, 2012, Colin Holgate wrote: You make more sets of $700 than you would make through other distributors. I think that drops off even in the general case as price goes up--even at $100, I doubt that many people would buy something they hadn't first seen or heard of elsewhere, with this increasing significantly as price increases. In my particular case, there is 0 chance of someone buying from there that didn't set out to buy it--this is a primary piece of software for running a law office. I also have the issue of actually having a slightly custom build for each customer. attorneys are . . . . Different when it comes to steeling software :). I also need to confirm that someone actually *has* a law license before shipping . . . -- The Hawkins Law Firm Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 hawkinslawf...@gmail.com 3025 S. Maryland Parkway Suite A Las Vegas, NV 89109 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Windows 8
Microsoft takes a cut, up to 30%, of every sale made through this store. Whoa!! How much does Apple get? Bob On Jul 28, 2012, at 12:43 PM, Richmond wrote: http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-18996377 well worth a read, and makes one think whether Apple's and Microsoft's protectionism might not be self-defeating in the end. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Windows 8
On 07/30/2012 08:08 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: Microsoft takes a cut, up to 30%, of every sale made through this store. Whoa!! How much does Apple get? Probably much the same. Bob On Jul 28, 2012, at 12:43 PM, Richmond wrote: http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-18996377 well worth a read, and makes one think whether Apple's and Microsoft's protectionism might not be self-defeating in the end. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Windows 8
Apple gets 30%, too. They invented that model with the iOS AppStore. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Windows 8
No I mean with their regular app store, for desktops. Bob On Jul 30, 2012, at 12:58 PM, Mike Kerner wrote: Apple gets 30%, too. They invented that model with the iOS AppStore. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Windows 8
On Monday, July 30, 2012, Mike Kerner wrote: Apple gets 30%, too. They invented that model with the iOS AppStore. hitch is why I'm not even considering selling my program through them. a dollar to sell a three dollar program hurts, but when you sell lots of them . . . A third of a thousand dollar program, which costs the same buck or tho to distribute . . . . -- The Hawkins Law Firm Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 hawkinslawf...@gmail.com 3025 S. Maryland Parkway Suite A Las Vegas, NV 89109 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Windows 8
You make more sets of $700 than you would make through other distributors. On Jul 31, 2012, at 12:06 AM, Dr. Hawkins doch...@gmail.com wrote: A third of a thousand dollar program, which costs the same buck or tho to distribute . . . . ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
[OT] Windows 8
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-18996377 well worth a read, and makes one think whether Apple's and Microsoft's protectionism might not be self-defeating in the end. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Windows 8
I assumed that there would be some hiccups here and there seeing as how they removed win32 api for winRT api, Mark. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Windows-8-tp4449030p4452576.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Windows 8
Hello, I wonder if anybody has reflected yet, what the windows 8 metro paradigm means for our standard LiveCode applications? I didn't downloaded yet the beta version, but I think most programs will run also under windows 8. But what would we have to change in our programs to be fully win8 compliant? It's probably not only just a Metro Icon for the App? What about making a program really touch screen compatible for tablet PCs? Making all menus, fields and fonts larger? Or what has to be done behind the screens? What will have runrev to do in livecode? Any ideas yet? Tiemo ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Windows 8
I don't really foresee livecode being able to build metro apps anytime in next couple of years. Chances are that livecode apps will work almost like they do in win7, but will require some tweeks to fix some of the compatibility issues with the new api. But livecode building metro apps? I just don't see runrev thinking about putting that up as any kind of priority. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Windows-8-tp4449030p4450531.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Windows 8
Look Metro, Look Mountain Lion, look Mobile... I think the motto code once, deploy everywhere... should be severely reevaluated. This is not the 90s anymore. The future (if any) for livecode looks more, to me, like faceless code once, easily build a GUI for every platform. The times, they are a-changin' Best regards, François Le 6 mars 2012 à 17:57, Andrew Kluthe a écrit : I don't really foresee livecode being able to build metro apps anytime in next couple of years. Chances are that livecode apps will work almost like they do in win7, but will require some tweeks to fix some of the compatibility issues with the new api. But livecode building metro apps? I just don't see runrev thinking about putting that up as any kind of priority. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Windows-8-tp4449030p4450531.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
AW: Windows 8
Hi Andrew, I am actually not in this matter yet. What do you think of, that would be necessary to build metro Apps? And which tweaks to you think of to be Win8 compatible? Do you think the current Apps won't run under Win8? Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Andrew Kluthe Gesendet: Dienstag, 6. März 2012 17:57 An: use-revolut...@lists.runrev.com Betreff: Re: Windows 8 I don't really foresee livecode being able to build metro apps anytime in next couple of years. Chances are that livecode apps will work almost like they do in win7, but will require some tweeks to fix some of the compatibility issues with the new api. But livecode building metro apps? I just don't see runrev thinking about putting that up as any kind of priority. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Windows 8
Hi, I just installed an app with an installer created by the Installer Maker Plugin and it seems to work fine. The app appears in the overview of colorized bricks, next to LiveCode. It looks like LiveCode apps won't work almost like they do in Windows 7 but they will work just fine, as they do in Win XP up to and including 7. After all, Windows 8 is just like Windows 7 once you have found the door in the brick wall. The secret entrance is a brick called Desktop. The usual door in the bottom-left is gone. I hope we'll soon be able to get to the desktop on startup automatically. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Download the Installer Maker Plugin 1.7 for LiveCode here http://qery.us/za On 6 mrt 2012, at 17:57, Andrew Kluthe wrote: I don't really foresee livecode being able to build metro apps anytime in next couple of years. Chances are that livecode apps will work almost like they do in win7, but will require some tweeks to fix some of the compatibility issues with the new api. But livecode building metro apps? I just don't see runrev thinking about putting that up as any kind of priority. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Windows 8
On Mar 6, 2012, at 10:24 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi, I just installed an app with an installer created by the Installer Maker Plugin and it seems to work fine. The app appears in the overview of colorized bricks, next to LiveCode. It looks like LiveCode apps won't work almost like they do in Windows 7 but they will work just fine, as they do in Win XP up to and including 7. After all, Windows 8 is just like Windows 7 once you have found the door in the brick wall. The secret entrance is a brick called Desktop. The usual door in the bottom-left is gone. I hope we'll soon be able to get to the desktop on startup automatically. In Win8 DP1, you could set the Desktop as your staring point. Apparently, they discovered that the vast majority of developers were doing just that and ignoring the Metro screen so they removed the ability in CP1. We've ignored our customers and put far too much effort into this, so you will run Metro, and you WILL like it! Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Windows 8
Thanks for the reply, Tim. In one word: awful. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Download the Installer Maker Plugin 1.7 for LiveCode here http://qery.us/za On 6 mrt 2012, at 19:04, Tim Jones wrote: In Win8 DP1, you could set the Desktop as your staring point. Apparently, they discovered that the vast majority of developers were doing just that and ignoring the Metro screen so they removed the ability in CP1. We've ignored our customers and put far too much effort into this, so you will run Metro, and you WILL like it! Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
AW: Windows 8
Thanks Mark for your first experiences! Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Mark Schonewille Gesendet: Dienstag, 6. März 2012 18:24 An: How to use LiveCode Betreff: Re: Windows 8 Hi, I just installed an app with an installer created by the Installer Maker Plugin and it seems to work fine. The app appears in the overview of colorized bricks, next to LiveCode. It looks like LiveCode apps won't work almost like they do in Windows 7 but they will work just fine, as they do in Win XP up to and including 7. After all, Windows 8 is just like Windows 7 once you have found the door in the brick wall. The secret entrance is a brick called Desktop. The usual door in the bottom-left is gone. I hope we'll soon be able to get to the desktop on startup automatically. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Windows 8
Tim Jones tolistim@... writes: In Win8 DP1, you could set the Desktop as your staring point. Apparently, they discovered that the vast majority of developers were doing just that and ignoring the Metro screen so they removed the ability in CP1. Yeah - I miss that in the new release, but at least it's only one more click. We've ignored our customers and put far too much effort into this, so you will run Metro, and you WILL like it! I don't *like* it yet, but I'm getting closer to not hating it. -- Mark Wieder ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Unity on Windows 8
Har! :-) On Sep 19, 2011, at 8:06 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Bob- Monday, September 19, 2011, 9:31:32 AM, you wrote: I wonder how many of these EULA's we would have if no human being I couldn't resist... xkcd to the rescue... https://www.xkcd.com/501/ -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Unity on Windows 8
Or it might mean that they have taken so much from Apple already, that to take more would almost certainly result in another ugly lawsuit and this time Apple has the money to fight it. I have a saying: You know as much after you say Maybe... as you did before you said it. I imagine others could come up with 8 or 9 more maybe's and in the end we would still be no closer to MS's motives. The real motivator in my opinion is the fact that MS has these Software Assurance contracts that promise them free updates within a period of time. This means that MS MUST PRODUCE a new product at least twice within that time period (usually 3 years) or else those in the program are going to claim to have been swindled. Now there are only so many ways to do a thing, and precious few of those are going to be received as better than the ones before it. I am going to guess that under the Windows hood, not a lot has changed. So it's not about what is best for them anymore. It is about what is required. Bob On Sep 17, 2011, at 1:15 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: I really don't mind if software companies want to rip ideas from each other, but the fact that Microsoft seems to be shifting its attention to what is going on in the Linux world, and away from the Apple world might mean that it is starting to perceive Linux as more of a competitive threat than Apple. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Unity on Windows 8
I wonder how many of these EULA's we would have if no human being ever pirated software? I wonder what kind of copy protection we would have if no one ever copied an MP3? All you who have or ever have had copies of music you never bought and have chimed in on the evils of EULA's or copy protection, just stop for a moment and ask yourself how much you have contributed to the present situation. Lawyers pretty much run the world for the reason that people in general have created a market for them. If we want to place blame, let's start at the source, which is that crooked neighbor or the drug dealers down the street, or perhaps even ourselves. If we are unwilling to turn them in as our civic duty, if any of us have a tool he borrowed from his neighbor and never got around to telling him, then we might start looking in the mirror for the real culprit in the blame game. Let the flames begin! :-) Bob On Sep 17, 2011, at 10:57 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: On 09/17/2011 08:50 PM, Roger Eller wrote: On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Richard Gaskinambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: Richmond Mathewson wrote: I really don't mind if software companies want to rip ideas from each other It's been going on a long time I think Apple has been borrowing/taking from Linux for even longer. Where did spaces, widgets, and even iTunes originally come from? Now, they're into buying out the hackers as Apple employees and interns. That will surly curb jailbreaking, which IMHO is a terribly nasty term for something that should be allowed. If I buy something, surely it it then mine, and I can do whatever I like with it? I have a friend who keeps hens in his car (it is not used for driving as none of the birds have passed their test yet). Nobody told him he couldn't use it for that purpose; so he didn't have to jailbreak his car. So jailbreaking is perfectly OK as the end-user (or, the OWNER) has been unjustly imprisoned. In Android, it is a simple built-in checkbox to allow other sources. It should be the end-users choice. http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/09/16/well_known_iphone_jailbreak_hacker_visits_apple_campus_for_unknown_reasons.html ˜Roger ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Unity on Windows 8
Bob Sneidar wrote: Or it might mean that they have taken so much from Apple already, that to take more would almost certainly result in another ugly lawsuit and this time Apple has the money to fight it. To clarify, Apple lost their suit against Microsoft on the grounds that the only protectable elements had been licensed, and the rest was deemed by the court to be not original: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_vs_microsoft#Court_case This outcome is similar in many respects to that of the Dutch court's ruling for the EU in the recent Apple vs. Samsung case, in which nine out of ten of Apple's allegations against Samsung were dismissed, including all of those involving the design of the physical device itself (so much for blatant copying). The only item upheld by the court was the bounce-scroll effect (note to LiveCode developers: if you emulate this, be sure to only use it on iOS or fear the wrath), and even there the judge gave Samsung several weeks to roll out a patch to correct that (the injunction won't be enforced until mid-October, and only if Samsung fails to comment out those two or three lines of code). http://www.businessworld.in/businessworld/content/Samsung-Wins-Dutch-Court.html -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Unity on Windows 8
Bob- Monday, September 19, 2011, 9:31:32 AM, you wrote: I wonder how many of these EULA's we would have if no human being I couldn't resist... xkcd to the rescue... https://www.xkcd.com/501/ -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
