Re: RevDB (kind of)

2003-01-28 Thread Dave Cragg
At 1:00 pm -0800 27/1/03, Richard Gaskin wrote:


It's not specific to Rev:  the term is an abbreviation of CURrent Selection
Of Records.  It's been in database parlance for some years, though I'm
mystified as to how the term was ever gained acceptance given the even older
use of cursor to refer to the flashing indicator for text entry.


nostalgia
I'd always imagined its use was derived from the cursor on a slide 
rule. (Remember those?) I have this image of lining up database 
tables much like you'd line up the parts of the slide rule, and then 
whatever lies under the transparent cursor is the set of matching 
found records.
/nostalgia

Dave
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Re: Saving User-Entered Text

2003-01-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Is there a way to prevent RR from being able to open a password-protected
 stack?
 
 Unfortunately not. But you can ask for the password on openstack, which is not
 really safe...
 
 But you cannot see and edit the scripts and cannot copy objects... And you can
 delete object and save afterwards... Big fun...

What do you think of the idea of saving data in the main stack script of an
external password-protected stack? Sounds good?

Valetia

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Re: Saving User-Entered Text (The Solution)

2003-01-28 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Joseph,


...
on opencard
   put url(file:userinput.txt) into fld userinput
end opencard
et voila you are in the profesional preferences writing-business ;-)


Klaus, thanks for the excellent reply. And thanks to all the others 
who responded to this query. Your solution of using the URL keyword 
was just what I was looking for (although I wouldn't have guessed that 
user-modified fields aren't automatically saved in Rev :). I 
understand the security issues put forth in several other notes, but 
in my case the user is simply specifying a directory to save text 
files into. My near-final code looks like this (note: as I'm working 
on a Windows platform, please excuse the path name ;):

on openStack
  put URL file:/Program Files/TextDisplay/savedir.txt into fld 
Directory
end openStack

on closeStack
  put fld Directory into URL file:/Program 
Files/TextDisplay/savedir.txt
end closeStack

I found it interesting that I didn't have to specify which drive (C:\ 
etc.) I wanted to read/write to even though I have several in my PC.

That's col.
But i would not rely on that ;-)


Also note that the slashes (/) are backwards from normal Windows file 
path slashes (\) for some reason.

That's the way pathnames are handled in RR.
They do it internally the unix way and the engines will translate to 
the proper
platform path :-)


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public beta?

2003-01-28 Thread Toma Tasovac
I know that it is not politically correct to whine about the delay of
2.0 on this list, since complaints are usually bombarded with the wise
and ethically superior they're working so hard, give them a break and
we want a good product, we're ready to wait... kind of answers -- but
the Revolution Website claims that their development process is better
advanced now, allowing us to make a more accurate estimate than
previously and that they will be shipping a public beta of 2.0 in mid
January.

Come on, guys, we all love Revolution -- that's why we're here, yet I
would still like to get a response from the Revolution team: what went
wrong this time, and how much longer do we need to wait, again?

All best,

Toma

Toma Tasovac
Princeton University
Department of Comparative Literature
91 Prospect Avenue
Princeton, NJ 08544
USA

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Re: public beta?

2003-01-28 Thread miscdas
[snip]Toma Tasovac writes: 

I know that it is not politically correct to whine about the delay of
2.0 on this list, since complaints are usually bombarded with the wise
and ethically superior they're working so hard, give them a break and
we want a good product, we're ready to wait... kind of answers 

I would still like to get a response from the Revolution team:? 

All best, 

Toma
=
So Toma, if you want a response from the revolution team, why are you 
addressing the mail list? Revolution has other more pertinent means of 
connecting to them than this list. 

Use your head... 

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Re: public beta?

2003-01-28 Thread Toma Tasovac
On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, at 01:58  PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


So Toma, if you want a response from the revolution team, why are you 
addressing the mail list? Revolution has other more pertinent means of 
connecting to them than this list.

why am i addressing the mail list?  because the revolution team used 
the list on several occasions to provide information regarding Rev 2; 
and because i think the answer would be of interest to many people on 
the list.

Use your head...


hmmm... does my appalling lack of intelligence offend you?  if it does, 
i'm very sorry.  we can't all be brilliant, you know.

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Re: public beta?

2003-01-28 Thread miscdas
[snip}Toma Tasovac writes: 

On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, at 01:58  PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

So Toma, if you want a response from the revolution team, why are you 
addressing the mail list? Revolution has other more pertinent means of 
connecting to them than this list.

why am i addressing the mail list?  because the revolution team used the 
list on several occasions to provide information regarding Rev 2; and 
because i think the answer would be of interest to many people on the 
list. 

Use your head...


hmmm... does my appalling lack of intelligence offend you?  if it does, 
i'm very sorry.  we can't all be brilliant, you know. 

T.
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Toma,
I must repeat-- USE YOUR HEAD! Intelligence level is of little relevance.
I suspect the RR team uses the list to post announcements as courtesy to the 
subscribers and perhaps because as you said, the answer would be of 
interest to many people on the list.
They could just as easily post all the product announcements to the website. 

If there is post-worthy news from the RR team, don't you think they would 
post it? (Or am I presumptuous to include think when addressing you?) 

Why don't you go do your thing, let them do their thing, and when you or 
they have something post-worthy, post it! Until then, some clear air please. 

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openbase

2003-01-28 Thread sschofield
Has anyone put a revolution front end on an openbase database? I'm having
problems getting the odbc connection working, but thought better check first
whether it's been done before

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Re: public beta?

2003-01-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm sorry to interrupt this new post, but I think there is no reason at all
to be so rude and obnoxious to anybody on this list, when he asks a question
which is on all of our minds!

It was a normal question and please keep this kind of answers to yourself,
it is more frustrating then the question itself. If our RR friends think
they have to respond, they will take action, nobody made you list mom, we
already have a very good one, so if you think this list is being abused,
find yourself a new hobby and leave the posts over here to people who do
appreciate the answers...

Regards,

Ton Kuypers

 

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 08:10:04 -0600
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: public beta?
 
 [snip}Toma Tasovac writes:
 
 On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, at 01:58  PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 So Toma, if you want a response from the revolution team, why are you
 addressing the mail list? Revolution has other more pertinent means of
 connecting to them than this list.
 
 why am i addressing the mail list?  because the revolution team used the
 list on several occasions to provide information regarding Rev 2; and
 because i think the answer would be of interest to many people on the
 list. 
 
 Use your head...
 
 hmmm... does my appalling lack of intelligence offend you?  if it does,
 i'm very sorry.  we can't all be brilliant, you know.
 
 T.
 ___
 Toma,
 I must repeat-- USE YOUR HEAD! Intelligence level is of little relevance.
 I suspect the RR team uses the list to post announcements as courtesy to the
 subscribers and perhaps because as you said, the answer would be of
 interest to many people on the list.
 They could just as easily post all the product announcements to the website.
 
 If there is post-worthy news from the RR team, don't you think they would
 post it? (Or am I presumptuous to include think when addressing you?)
 
 Why don't you go do your thing, let them do their thing, and when you or
 they have something post-worthy, post it! Until then, some clear air please.
 
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Re: public beta?

2003-01-28 Thread Björnke von Gierke

On Dienstag, Jan 28, 2003, at 15:10 Europe/Zurich, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

...
If there is post-worthy news from the RR team, don't you think they 
would post it? (Or am I presumptuous to include think when 
addressing you?)

Actually history shows, that this company does not send any feedback, 
or info about the release dates, or slipping thereof without many, many 
angry mails to this list.

The information tactic seems to be that they wait until some people get 
pissed of, and only then send  a note about how they are sorry for not 
keeping up with their promises.
Unlike the Improve list, which gets at least to see a new beta every 
two month or so, this happens only all 4 months. We have thus another 3 
months to wait for the next official note on slipping from runrev ;-)

not that this differs from any other company I've had contact to, seems 
to be a general problem, not a runrev specific one...

have fun

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Re: public beta?

2003-01-28 Thread Dave LeYanna
I wasn't bold enough to respond as you did. I apologize. However I support 
your post fully.

djl

At 03:31 PM 1/28/03 +0100, you wrote:
I'm sorry to interrupt this new post, but I think there is no reason at all
to be so rude and obnoxious to anybody on this list, when he asks a question
which is on all of our minds!

It was a normal question and please keep this kind of answers to yourself,
it is more frustrating then the question itself. If our RR friends think
they have to respond, they will take action, nobody made you list mom, we
already have a very good one, so if you think this list is being abused,
find yourself a new hobby and leave the posts over here to people who do
appreciate the answers...

Regards,

Ton Kuypers



 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 08:10:04 -0600
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: public beta?

 [snip}Toma Tasovac writes:

 On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, at 01:58  PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So Toma, if you want a response from the revolution team, why are you
 addressing the mail list? Revolution has other more pertinent means of
 connecting to them than this list.

 why am i addressing the mail list?  because the revolution team used the
 list on several occasions to provide information regarding Rev 2; and
 because i think the answer would be of interest to many people on the
 list.

 Use your head...

 hmmm... does my appalling lack of intelligence offend you?  if it does,
 i'm very sorry.  we can't all be brilliant, you know.

 T.
 ___
 Toma,
 I must repeat-- USE YOUR HEAD! Intelligence level is of little relevance.
 I suspect the RR team uses the list to post announcements as courtesy 
to the
 subscribers and perhaps because as you said, the answer would be of
 interest to many people on the list.
 They could just as easily post all the product announcements to the 
website.

 If there is post-worthy news from the RR team, don't you think they would
 post it? (Or am I presumptuous to include think when addressing you?)

 Why don't you go do your thing, let them do their thing, and when you or
 they have something post-worthy, post it! Until then, some clear air 
please.

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public beta?

2003-01-28 Thread Heather Williams
 Message: 12
 Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 13:18:16 +0100
 Subject: public beta?
 From: Toma Tasovac [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 I know that it is not politically correct to whine about the delay of
 2.0 on this list, since complaints are usually bombarded with the wise
 and ethically superior they're working so hard, give them a break and
 we want a good product, we're ready to wait... kind of answers -- but
 the Revolution Website claims that their development process is better
 advanced now, allowing us to make a more accurate estimate than
 previously and that they will be shipping a public beta of 2.0 in mid
 January.
 
 Come on, guys, we all love Revolution -- that's why we're here, yet I
 would still like to get a response from the Revolution team: what went
 wrong this time, and how much longer do we need to wait, again?

A small slippage. Soon, soon. No really. I'm not saying anymore, because
dates always get me into trouble.

The reason the team is not responding is because they're all working so hard
to get that beta out. I can't give you details about the delay because I do
admin, not coding. Everybody that could give you more info is busy coding
like mad.

The best to you too, and please, be patient, once more, just a little
longer...

Regards,

Heather

 
 All best,
 
 Toma
 
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RE: openbase

2003-01-28 Thread sschofield
And forgot to mention, am using it on windows 2000

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Subject: openbase


Has anyone put a revolution front end on an openbase database? I'm having
problems getting the odbc connection working, but thought better check first
whether it's been done before

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Re: public beta?

2003-01-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm sorry to interrupt this new post, but I think there is no reason at all
to be so rude and obnoxious to anybody on this list, when he asks a question
which is on all of our minds!

It was a normal question and please keep this kind of answers to yourself,
it is more frustrating then the question itself. If our RR friends think
they have to respond, they will take action, nobody made you list mom, we
already have a very good one, so if you think this list is being abused,
find yourself a new hobby and leave the posts over here to people who do
appreciate the answers...

Regards,

Ton Kuypers

 

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 08:10:04 -0600
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: public beta?
 
 [snip}Toma Tasovac writes:
 
 On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, at 01:58  PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 So Toma, if you want a response from the revolution team, why are you
 addressing the mail list? Revolution has other more pertinent means of
 connecting to them than this list.
 
 why am i addressing the mail list?  because the revolution team used the
 list on several occasions to provide information regarding Rev 2; and
 because i think the answer would be of interest to many people on the
 list. 
 
 Use your head...
 
 hmmm... does my appalling lack of intelligence offend you?  if it does,
 i'm very sorry.  we can't all be brilliant, you know.
 
 T.
 ___
 Toma,
 I must repeat-- USE YOUR HEAD! Intelligence level is of little relevance.
 I suspect the RR team uses the list to post announcements as courtesy to the
 subscribers and perhaps because as you said, the answer would be of
 interest to many people on the list.
 They could just as easily post all the product announcements to the website.
 
 If there is post-worthy news from the RR team, don't you think they would
 post it? (Or am I presumptuous to include think when addressing you?)
 
 Why don't you go do your thing, let them do their thing, and when you or
 they have something post-worthy, post it! Until then, some clear air please.
 
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Re: No scroll wheel (newbie stuff)?

2003-01-28 Thread Wolfgang M. Bereuter

On Montag, Jänner 27, 2003, at 10:20  Uhr, Ken Ray wrote:


I'm seeing no scrollwheel support in Rev 1.1.1 on OS X. Maybe it is
Windows-only?


Nope, definitely not Windows only.  Might have to do with the version 
of
underlying MetaCard engine.  I'm using MC 2.4.3 -- not sure which MC
version

Rev 1.1.1 is based on.


It's based on 2.4.1, I believe.


Oho, what an interesting theme...
Until today I thought, or should I say, a lot of people tried to make 
me believe, that I m the only one, who has struggled with this 
delicate engine issue...

Thanks a lot Scott Rossi...

regards
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tool states

2003-01-28 Thread Stephen Messimer
Hi

Anyone know how to determine the state of a tool.?  I want to be able 
to get the state of the browse tool ie. is it enabled or not.

Thanks in advance.

Steve


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Re: tool states

2003-01-28 Thread Jan Schenkel
--- Stephen Messimer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Hi
 
 Anyone know how to determine the state of a tool.? 
 I want to be able 
 to get the state of the browse tool ie. is it
 enabled or not.
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Steve
 

Hi Steve,

Have a look at the entry for the 'tool' function in
the transcript dictionary. It tells you what tool is
active.

Hope this helped,

Jan Schenkel.

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query about binary encoding images

2003-01-28 Thread sjoel








I understand that when I move images between files, I need
to binary encode them or refer to them as binfiles. However when I want to send
an image to a remote machine using ftp or write there seems to be no option to
binary encode or refer to the image as a binfile. If this is not the
case, please correct me and / or if there is a solution, any help would be
appreciated. 



Regards,

Sian








Re: No scroll wheel (newbie stuff)?

2003-01-28 Thread Ken Norris (dialup)
**
 Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 18:13:29 -0700 (MST)
 From: Scott Raney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: No scroll wheel (newbie stuff)?
--
This is corn-fusin'. In the first sentence you said:
--
 Correction: it's most assuredly *not* part of Mac OS and there isn't
 even any API support for it.
-- 
In the next paragraph you said:
--
 Mouse wheels *do* work on Win32, MacOS, and Linux systems because
 there is OS API support for this hardware feature on these platforms.
--
One must be true and the other not. Which is which?

Sincerely,
Ken N.


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Scripting the Geometry Manager

2003-01-28 Thread Bill Vlahos
I have a field which correctly adjusts its size in response to resizing 
of the window via the geometry manager. This works fine but I would 
also like to optionally insert another object between the field and the 
bottom of the window. I can't see where to script the settings in the 
geometry manager for an object.

The effect I want is similar to drawers in OS X but I can't wait for 
Rev 2.0 which I believe has this feature.

If I could script an object's geo manager setting, show/hide the new 
object, resize window, then update the screen this would work.

Thanks,
Bill Vlahos



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Re: No scroll wheel (newbie stuff)?

2003-01-28 Thread Ken Ray
Ken, I think Scott meant that there it is not part of Mac OS X; that there's
a way to get it to work with a hack in OS 9, but not in OS X. Win32 and
Linux have built-in OS-level API support.

Or at least, that's what I believe... ;-)

Ken Ray
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: No scroll wheel (newbie stuff)?


 **
  Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 18:13:29 -0700 (MST)
  From: Scott Raney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: No scroll wheel (newbie stuff)?
 --
 This is corn-fusin'. In the first sentence you said:
 --
  Correction: it's most assuredly *not* part of Mac OS and there isn't
  even any API support for it.
 --
 In the next paragraph you said:
 --
  Mouse wheels *do* work on Win32, MacOS, and Linux systems because
  there is OS API support for this hardware feature on these platforms.
 --
 One must be true and the other not. Which is which?

 Sincerely,
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Re: query about binary encoding images

2003-01-28 Thread Björnke von Gierke
Oops... typo:  that would be the libURLftpUploadFile() command..

On Dienstag, Jan 28, 2003, at 18:47 Europe/Zurich, Björnke von Gierke 
wrote:

try the ftpuploadfile() command
On Dienstag, Jan 28, 2003, at 17:43 Europe/Zurich, sjoel wrote:


I understand that when I move images between files, I need to binary 
encode them or refer to them as binfiles. However when I want to send 
an image to a remote machine using ftp or write there seems to be no 
option to binary encode or refer to the image as a binfile.  If this 
is not the case, please correct me and / or if there is a solution, 
any help would be appreciated.

 

Regards,

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Re: No scroll wheel (newbie stuff)?

2003-01-28 Thread Alex Rice

On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, at 10:45  AM, Ken Ray wrote:


of Mac OS X; that there's
a way to get it to work with a hack in OS 9, but not in OS X. Win32 and
Linux have built-in OS-level API support.


There IS scrollwheel support in OS X, via the Carbon, Cocoa or 
Applescript APIs. Scott probably wrote MacOS where he meant MacOS X.

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Re: Scripting the Geometry Manager

2003-01-28 Thread Jan Schenkel
--- Bill Vlahos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a field which correctly adjusts its size in
 response to resizing 
 of the window via the geometry manager. This works
 fine but I would 
 also like to optionally insert another object
 between the field and the 
 bottom of the window. I can't see where to script
 the settings in the 
 geometry manager for an object.
 
 The effect I want is similar to drawers in OS X but
 I can't wait for 
 Rev 2.0 which I believe has this feature.
 
 If I could script an object's geo manager setting,
 show/hide the new 
 object, resize window, then update the screen this
 would work.
 
 Thanks,
 Bill Vlahos
 

Hi Bill,

You'll have to do a bit of digging, but I think that
data is stored in the custom property
  cRevGeometry[master,scaleBottomDistance]
of the object.
So I think if you change that, along with the
corresponding item in the custom property
  cRevGeometry[master,expectedRect]
you should be able to trick the Geometry Manager into
resizing things correctly upon 'revUpdateGeometry'.

Hope this helped,

Jan Schenkel.

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Re: No scroll wheel (newbie stuff)?

2003-01-28 Thread Ken Ray
I'm sure you're right, Alex. I had it backwards...

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software
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- Original Message - 
From: Alex Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: No scroll wheel (newbie stuff)?


 
 On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, at 10:45  AM, Ken Ray wrote:
 
  of Mac OS X; that there's
  a way to get it to work with a hack in OS 9, but not in OS X. Win32 and
  Linux have built-in OS-level API support.
 
 There IS scrollwheel support in OS X, via the Carbon, Cocoa or 
 Applescript APIs. Scott probably wrote MacOS where he meant MacOS X.
 
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Re: Scripting the Geometry Manager

2003-01-28 Thread Jan Schenkel
--- Jan Schenkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- Bill Vlahos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I have a field which correctly adjusts its size in
  response to resizing 
  of the window via the geometry manager. This works
  fine but I would 
  also like to optionally insert another object
  between the field and the 
  bottom of the window. I can't see where to script
  the settings in the 
  geometry manager for an object.
  
  The effect I want is similar to drawers in OS X
 but
  I can't wait for 
  Rev 2.0 which I believe has this feature.
  
  If I could script an object's geo manager setting,
  show/hide the new 
  object, resize window, then update the screen this
  would work.
  
  Thanks,
  Bill Vlahos
  
 
 Hi Bill,
 
 You'll have to do a bit of digging, but I think that
 data is stored in the custom property
   cRevGeometry[master,scaleBottomDistance]
 of the object.
 So I think if you change that, along with the
 corresponding item in the custom property
   cRevGeometry[master,expectedRect]
 you should be able to trick the Geometry Manager
 into
 resizing things correctly upon 'revUpdateGeometry'.
 

Come to think of it, this is a good case for the
profile manager if you're not using it for other
purposes: simply define a profile DrawerOpened and
set everything up under that profile, and switch
between Master and DrawerOpened by changing the
cRevGeneral[profile] of the objects.

Jan Schenkel.


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Re: No scroll wheel (newbie stuff)?

2003-01-28 Thread J. Landman Gay
Ken Norris (dialup) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


This is corn-fusin'. In the first sentence you said:
--


Correction: it's most assuredly *not* part of Mac OS and there isn't
even any API support for it.


-- 
In the next paragraph you said:
--

Mouse wheels *do* work on Win32, MacOS, and Linux systems because
there is OS API support for this hardware feature on these platforms.


--
One must be true and the other not. Which is which?


It was a typo. The last sentence should be Mouse wheels *do* work on 
Win32, MacOS X, and Linux...

Scroll wheel support works fine for me in OS X and is built into the 
MetaCard engine as of (I think) version 2.4.3. It does not work in Mac 
OS 8/9. However, I think you can add the capability yourself with a 
script. You'll need to trap rawKeyDown, check to see if the mousecontrol 
is a field, and if so, set its scroll appropriately. The keycode for 
scrolling up is 65309, for scrolling down it is 65308.

This won't work if no keycodes are sent when the wheel is scrolled 
(which someone reported earlier) but I am pretty sure I had it working 
in OS 9. You'll have to do some tests.

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Re: Custom cursors - anyone?

2003-01-28 Thread Scott Raney
On Tue, 28 Jan 2003 Barry Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Isn't anyone using a cursor of their own design? How is it done?

Both RR and MC use these all over the place in their own UIs, so it's
certainly supported.  The problem is that most image editing programs
store images with full colormaps even when only a couple of colors are
used.  The engine doesn't know what colors are actually used in those
images, and so just chooses the first two which are often (usually?)
not where the data is actually stored.

The solution is simple: just paint on the imported cursor image with
one of the painting tools (e.g., paint a black pixel black with the
pencil tool) which will cause the engine to do a proper colormap
calculation which will allow it to show the image correctly as a
cursor.  Note that you will have to close the image after painting
it and before using it as a cursor, either by closing the card or
stack the image was imported onto.

Also, note that the built-in painting tools are more than adequate for
this kind of work and so there's no real reason to use an external
image editing program at all IMHO.
  Regards,
Scott

 Thanks,
 Barry


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Re: No scroll wheel (newbie stuff)?

2003-01-28 Thread Scott Raney
On Tue, 28 Jan 2003 Ken Norris (dialup) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This is corn-fusin'. In the first sentence you said:
 --
  Correction: it's most assuredly *not* part of Mac OS and there isn't
  even any API support for it.
 -- 
 In the next paragraph you said:
 --
  Mouse wheels *do* work on Win32, MacOS, and Linux systems because
  there is OS API support for this hardware feature on these platforms.
 --
 One must be true and the other not. Which is which?

Apologies, my mistake.  That line should be:

  Mouse wheels *do* work on Win32, MacOS X, and Linux systems because
  Regards,
Scott

 Sincerely,
 Ken N.


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license.rev corruption?

2003-01-28 Thread Ray Bennett
I had my first Revolution crash this weekend.  The crash resulted, I 
believe, in my license key being corrupted, and I think that's probably 
it.   Anyway, the detail below is a little long winded, but insight and 
feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Scenario:
Was using the development environment running an application I'd built. 
  When the application is executing there were 5 stacks open.   All 
were main stacks.   The primary stack is used to input data which is 
used to retrieve matching data from one of other open stacks, and then 
update that stack based on new information that was input.

Each of the stacks may, based on the data it was fed, generate printed 
output.   For all of the stacks but one, when printing a card, the card 
is always printed into a rect, usually the rect of a hidden field on 
the first card of the stack.  The remaining stack (STACK D, lets say)  
uses cards which are always half-page in size, and therefore it prints 
the cards as a job.

The target printer was an HP 4100 NT.  Printing via Appletalk.  Primary 
machine was PowerBook G3 Pizmo running OS 10.2.3.The Odd Things 
happened using Classic Rev 1.1.1 AND Rev 1.1.1 for OS X.Odd Thing 
#1 happened when running on OS 9.2.2 on a PowerBook G3 Lombard.

After running for several hours (in the Classic environment), Rev hung 
during a Print Card command - actually one that was generated from 
the keyboard.   I waited several minutes to let things clear 
themselves, and they didn't.  I used the force quit function, but then 
wasn't able to restart revolution at all.   That's when I switched to 
running Rev for OS X.  This ran fine for a couple more hours, then the 
same thing happened, and I couldn't get Rev to run at all.

Restarted the box.  No effect.  Eventually had to fileshare the stacks 
to another machine to get up and running.When I got home last 
night, I downloaded Rev Classic again, and it ran fine.  I need my pro 
license installed to run my app so tried copying my license key over 
from the old area and restarting Rev.   It wouldn't start.  So, I 
simply put the new license key into the old Rev area, and presto, we're 
running again.

So, the $50 question, is the license key actively used while running in 
the development environment such that it can be corrupted during a 
crash?   If so, does this have any implication on standalone apps?

Just a little spooked.
Thanks.
Ray

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Re: Setting Pixels

2003-01-28 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Robert J Warren (Howsoft.com)  wrote:

 All I want to do is something which is as easy as falling off a log in VB. I
 want to move the mouse around a window (over an image perhaps, but not
 necessarily) and to draw a line of pixels as I go - i.e. construct a very
 primitive drawing program. I would be grateful if anyone could help.

Sounds like you could simply use the paint tools and an image object
overlaying whatever you want to draw on.  See the docs under choosing tools
(choose command) and:
- pencil
- brush
- spray can
- bucket

Alternatively, you could use draw graphics, using the curve tool for
free-form drawing, or primitive shapes and polygons, but this can create
multiple objects, depending on how you implement it.

Hopefully there's something here you can use.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia  Design
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public beta?

2003-01-28 Thread miscdas
[SNIP]Heather writes: 

A small slippage. Soon, soon. No really. I'm not saying anymore, because

dates always get me into trouble. 

The best to you too, and please, be patient, once more, just a little

longer... 

Regards, 

Heather
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(Listening in on one side of phone chat...)
What? Oh yeah, yeah, uh-huh. Sure. That's what I heard... 

No. Well, I heard it somewhere before. You know- the V word. Sure you do! 
VAPORWARE 

Repeat that please...
OK OK I got it. Let me write that down. 

The road to Hell is paved with good intentions. 

No, not too busy. Just sitting around sniffling and whining about not seeing 
the Revolution 2.0 yet. Yeah, you're right. If I spent half the time coding 
as I do asking about updates, I'd have all of my jobs finished already. 

Nice talking to you. Yeah, I'm sure I can find a place to use that quote. 

Bye 

miscdas 

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public beta?

2003-01-28 Thread miscdas
[SNIP]Heather writes: 

A small slippage. Soon, soon. No really. I'm not saying anymore, because

dates always get me into trouble. 

The best to you too, and please, be patient, once more, just a little

longer... 

Regards, 

Heather
=
(Listening in on one side of phone chat...)
What? Oh yeah, yeah, uh-huh. Sure. That's what I heard... 

No. Well, I heard it somewhere before. You know- the V word. Sure you do! 
VAPORWARE 

Repeat that please...
OK OK I got it. Let me write that down. 

The road to Hell is paved with good intentions. 

No, not too busy. Just sitting around sniffling and whining about not seeing 
the Revolution 2.0 yet. Yeah, you're right. If I spent half the time coding 
as I do asking about updates, I'd have all of my jobs finished already. 

Nice talking to you. Yeah, I'm sure I can find a place to use that quote. 

Bye 

miscdas 

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RE: public beta?

2003-01-28 Thread Monte Goulding

Hi List

I think it's fair that I inform the list that I have made a rule to
automatically delete any message that contains miscdas and/or is sent from
[EMAIL PROTECTED]. I have done this for a number of reasons that I'd be
happy to explain to people off list.

Regards

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Setting Pixels

2003-01-28 Thread Jim Hurley

Recently, Robert J Warren (Howsoft.com)  wrote:


 All I want to do is something which is as easy as falling off a log in VB. I
 want to move the mouse around a window (over an image perhaps, but not
 necessarily) and to draw a line of pixels as I go - i.e. construct a very

  primitive drawing program. I would be grateful if anyone could help.

Sounds like you could simply use the paint tools and an image object
overlaying whatever you want to draw on.  See the docs under choosing tools
(choose command) and:
- pencil
- brush
- spray can
- bucket

Alternatively, you could use draw graphics, using the curve tool for
free-form drawing, or primitive shapes and polygons, but this can create
multiple objects, depending on how you implement it.

Hopefully there's something here you can use.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia  Design



Robert,

Just to add a bit to Scott's good advice:

If you would like some tools to facilitate this kind of  drawing, the 
ideal is Turtle Graphics. You can control the turtle (drawing cursor) 
with such simple commands as:

Relative tools (independent of a coordinate system): Forward,Back, 
Left, Right, setHeading, etc.
Absolute tools (coordinate based):  setXY,  incrementXY, 
xyCoordinates(), xCor() etc. .


The good people at RR have posted a demo stack in the Education 
page on the RunRev site:

http://www.runrev.com/revolution/education/usercontributions.html

Check the User Contributions. This is intended primarily for an 
elementary course in programing in  Transcript  and Turtle Graphics 
for science students, but it may  also work for you.

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RE: public beta?

2003-01-28 Thread Chipp Walters
Monte,

Could you contact me offlist to let me know how to setup one of those rules?

thx,

Chipp

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 Hi List

 I think it's fair that I inform the list that I have made a rule to
 automatically delete any message that contains miscdas and/or
 is sent from
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 that I'd be
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 Regards

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RE: public beta?

2003-01-28 Thread Dave LeYanna
To be fair, I know that I have been ungraceful in the past and have 
expressed myself in ways that I shouldn't have or said things that I 
regretted.  Some people refer to that as an unresourceful state of mind 
and sometime it takes a while to recover.

djl

At 09:08 AM 1/29/03 +1030, you wrote:

Hi List

I think it's fair that I inform the list that I have made a rule to
automatically delete any message that contains miscdas and/or is sent from
[EMAIL PROTECTED]. I have done this for a number of reasons that I'd be
happy to explain to people off list.

Regards

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RE: license.rev corruption?

2003-01-28 Thread Chipp Walters
Hi Ray,

While I've had a similar thing happen in the past during development, I've
never seen it happen from a standalone. Standalones by definition do not
require a license key.

I usually back up my license key for both RR and MC 'just in case.'

Also, do serial backups on your stack while in development. I've a plugin
which helps.

Good luck!!

-Chipp

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Software Protection Issues

2003-01-28 Thread Igor de Oliveira Couto
While researching software registration and piracy-protection issues, 
my partner came across a VERY interesting article with a number of 
common-sense suggestions that might be of general interest:

http://www.scalabium.com/articles/protection.htm

I hope this information might prove useful!

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Re: public beta?

2003-01-28 Thread james lewes
Hey folks

Why don't we stop sniveling about 2.0, insulting each other and the crew at
Revolution and let them get on with their job.

Once they have finished I am confident they will amaze us.

James

 From: Dave LeYanna [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 18:20:54 -0500
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: public beta?
 
 To be fair, I know that I have been ungraceful in the past and have
 expressed myself in ways that I shouldn't have or said things that I
 regretted.  Some people refer to that as an unresourceful state of mind
 and sometime it takes a while to recover.
 
 djl
 
 At 09:08 AM 1/29/03 +1030, you wrote:
 
 Hi List
 
 I think it's fair that I inform the list that I have made a rule to
 automatically delete any message that contains miscdas and/or is sent from
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]. I have done this for a number of reasons that I'd be
 happy to explain to people off list.
 
 Regards
 
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Re: public beta?

2003-01-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
He really is a pain in the ass, I've just done the same thing for this
boxfrog person...
I really don't understand his behaviour...

Ton

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 Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 18:42:17 -0500
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 Subject: Re: public beta?
 
 Hey folks
 
 Why don't we stop sniveling about 2.0, insulting each other and the crew at
 Revolution and let them get on with their job.
 
 Once they have finished I am confident they will amaze us.
 
 James
 
 From: Dave LeYanna [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 18:20:54 -0500
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: public beta?
 
 To be fair, I know that I have been ungraceful in the past and have
 expressed myself in ways that I shouldn't have or said things that I
 regretted.  Some people refer to that as an unresourceful state of mind
 and sometime it takes a while to recover.
 
 djl
 
 At 09:08 AM 1/29/03 +1030, you wrote:
 
 Hi List
 
 I think it's fair that I inform the list that I have made a rule to
 automatically delete any message that contains miscdas and/or is sent from
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]. I have done this for a number of reasons that I'd be
 happy to explain to people off list.
 
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filename differences in Rev MC

2003-01-28 Thread sims
I'm doing an applescript from Rev (it attaches an image to a new email in
OSX Mail).

I have Rev get the filename and replace the / with : so the applescript
line ends up like the following and all works well.

set this_imagefile to ¬
alias Macintosh HD:Users:jimsims:Desktop:Kartolina 1.5:MyCards:ccv.jpg


BUT if I do the same using an opener stack made with MetaCard 
(Workaround so the app
will show Application in the Get Info  - not Classic  ugh) I get 
the following:

set this_imagefile to ¬
alias Users:jimsims:Desktop:Kartolina 1.5:MyCards:ccv.jpg

IOW  The filename starts with Users and not the name of the HD.

Any suggestions on how to obtain the HD name so I can add it to
the applescript? The applescript requires the complete path.

atb

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Re: public beta?

2003-01-28 Thread Alex Rice

On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, at 05:00  PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


He really is a pain in the ass, I've just done the same thing for this
boxfrog person...
I really don't understand his behaviour...

Ton


Folks! this is just noise. If you killfile (filter) someone don't gloat 
about it and announce it on the list. Just do it, and be done with it.

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Release strategy (Was: public beta?)

2003-01-28 Thread Curry
I would like to make a suggestions to RunRev, and the reason I am 
posting it here on the list is to see if other people agree with the 
suggestion, and if so, I would ask you to let RunRev know that you 
agree, maybe off-list if that's the most appropriate way.

The old Rev 1.1.1 engine has some glitches with Mac OSX Jaguar that 
must be avoided. However, the problem is already fixed in the 
engine--but there still haven't been any new releases to the engine.

I would say that waiting for new features is not too bad. However 
many months you wait for a new capability is acceptable, since you 
can work quite well with what you have now. No problem there, I think 
people will be happy and patient and look forward to the great new 
stuff all in good time. That's how I feel about it. But OS 
incompatibilities are a different story--with something like that 
which affects the features you currently have, you want a fix sooner. 
And it may be possible that this kind of situation with Appearance 
Manager or something else happens again, so I think considering a 
long term strategy would be a good idea.

My proposal is for RunRev to have a strategy that prioritizes fixes 
for this kind of major issue, so that normally the work would be 
going on with new features and normal bug fixes for a future release 
as usual (and not too much hurry on that) but when there is a big OS 
glitch or something like that, a maintenance release could be offered 
very soon, perhaps simply the last major version of Rev bundled with 
the new MC engine and as few changes as are necessary to make that 
possible. Hopefully the situation wouldn't arise often, but if it 
did, having this kind of plan in place already would help. Plus, it 
might even take off a bit of the pressure off feature releases since 
people aren't also waiting for such vital fixes at the same time. 
(Personally, I would prefer that there's not too much pressure on 
people, it's better for the health.) So, I think there would be 
advantages for both the customers and the developers in having this 
kind of strategy.

Do you think that's a reasonable idea? RunRev, would you consider it?

Thanks,

Curry

(And P.S., just in case anyone would say well why not just get 
Jaguar, yes, that's a way to do it, and I'm considering that right 
now--last year, during October-December, it always seemed like Rev 
would be released soon enough that it wouldn't be necessary. So I 
will be pursuing that option, or using beta testers. But that still 
doesn't take away from the need to have a strategy, since it may not 
be convenient for everyone to upgrade OS right away for one reason or 
another, and avoiding the glitches will still be an added 
complication to development. So when the problem is fixed in the 
engine, it is still necessary to focus on getting that fix to people 
as soon as possible.

And P.P.S., to Toma or anyone who wants to keep track of progress, it 
does help to subscribe to the MetaCard list too, then you can guage 
generally how things are going although not exactly, plus you can try 
out the non Rev-specific features with MC test releases.)
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RE: public beta?

2003-01-28 Thread Roger . E . Eller

No explanation necessary. Sometimes the good old filter is better than
increasing the blood-pressure medication. ;-)

~Roger


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Re: filename differences in Rev MC

2003-01-28 Thread Ken Ray
Try this:

  line 1 of the drives

Ken Ray
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Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 6:14 PM
Subject: filename differences in Rev  MC


 I'm doing an applescript from Rev (it attaches an image to a new email in
 OSX Mail).

 I have Rev get the filename and replace the / with : so the
applescript
 line ends up like the following and all works well.

 set this_imagefile to ¬
 alias Macintosh HD:Users:jimsims:Desktop:Kartolina
1.5:MyCards:ccv.jpg


 BUT if I do the same using an opener stack made with MetaCard
 (Workaround so the app
 will show Application in the Get Info  - not Classic  ugh) I get
 the following:

 set this_imagefile to ¬
 alias Users:jimsims:Desktop:Kartolina 1.5:MyCards:ccv.jpg

 IOW  The filename starts with Users and not the name of the HD.

 Any suggestions on how to obtain the HD name so I can add it to
 the applescript? The applescript requires the complete path.

 atb

 sims


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Setting Pixels

2003-01-28 Thread Robert J Warren \(Howsoft.com\)
Dear Jim,
Many thanks for the very interesting advice on the setting pixels problem.
I'll certainly follow it up.

Regards,
Bob Warren


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Re: filename differences in Rev MC

2003-01-28 Thread sims
Try this:

  line 1 of the drives

Ken Ray


Grazzi Ken,

That's is where I left off last night before bed  the email to the 
list (the drives).
Nice to wake up  know I'm going in the right direction.  ;-)

atb

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Displaying two cards in different windows

2003-01-28 Thread Jim Witte
Hi,

  I'm doing an apparent motion laboratory application in Revolution 
(which I'll probably end up doing it in Revolution, Java, AND Cocoa 
just for the heck of it - it is what the prof is having me do for the 
final project in the experimental methods class - I don't want it to 
see *too* easy!).  Anyway, It needs to switch to images back and forth 
at a preset interval.

  Currently, I've got the switching set up by alternatively going to 
one of two cards in a stack.  But can I let the user view (and edit) 
both of these cards at once, to create graphic objects ('open cd ## in 
new window'?)?  Or is there another way I can do this (take a snapshot 
of each frame and then swap them into an image object, or using the 
Animation Manager? (Animation Manager seems a bit of overkill for just 
two or three frames)

Thanks,
Jim Witte
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Re: Setting Pixels - Clarification

2003-01-28 Thread Dar Scott

On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, at 07:24 PM, Robert J Warren 
((Howsoft.com)) wrote:

From the examples, this seems to mean in practice that if I want to 
change a
single pixel in an image I need to read the whole image bitmap into a
variable, change the pixel in the variable, and then copy the whole 
variable
contents back into the image.

Surely not! This is an incredibly slow process.

How long does it take to copy an image?

Maybe you can cut that in half by doing the read the whole image 
bitmap only once.

Dar Scott

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Re: Displaying two cards in different windows

2003-01-28 Thread Dar Scott

On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, at 10:27 PM, Jim Witte wrote:


  Currently, I've got the switching set up by alternatively going to 
one of two cards in a stack.  But can I let the user view (and edit) 
both of these cards at once, to create graphic objects ('open cd ## in 
new window'?)?  Or is there another way I can do this (take a snapshot 
of each frame and then swap them into an image object, or using the 
Animation Manager? (Animation Manager seems a bit of overkill for just 
two or three frames)'

Maybe a frame is a list of controls that are visible on a card.  During 
editing all are visible.  Or did I miss your goal?

Maybe that list can really be a group.

Dar Scott

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Re: To grab or not to grab

2003-01-28 Thread Geoff Canyon
You'd be better off doing something like:

local tDragging -- are we currently dragging?

on mouseDown
  -- check the target here to see if it's what you want
  put true into tDragging
end mouseDown

on mouseMove
  if not tDragging then exit mouseMove
  --move the objects here
end mouseMove

on mouseUp
  put false into tDragging
end mouseUp

on mouseRelease
  put false into tDragging
end mouseRelease

On Monday, January 27, 2003, at 09:12 PM, Matt Denton wrote:


on mouseDown
  if the optionKey is down then
repeat until the mouse is up
  set the loc of me to the mouseLoc
end repeat
  else grab me
end mouseDown



regards,

Geoff Canyon
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Please stop

2003-01-28 Thread Carsten Levin
I should probably not even post this to the list. But all those private 
and compleetely irrelevant remarks should be stopped. We (sorry) should 
not act like police, but leave that to the listmasters/runrev people. 
Keep everything thats not strictly Revolution related away!
Who cares whether som unknown person refuses to read mail from some 
other unknown person. Please stop all this now!

Best regards

Carsten Levin
On onsdag, jan 29, 2003, at 02:48 Europe/Copenhagen, 
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Hi List

I think it's fair that I inform the list that I have made a rule to
automatically delete any message that contains miscdas and/or is 
sent from
[EMAIL PROTECTED]. I have done this for a number of reasons that 
I'd be
happy to explain to people off list.

Regards

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Re: To grab or not to grab

2003-01-28 Thread Matt Denton
Hi Geoff,

Whoops!  Yes bad form, I usually (truly!) use this non-event hogging 
form (Old HC habits die hard you know...); I guess I was being a lazy 
typist as I was really looking for an answer on how to drag an object 
from within a group and have it crop at the boundaries without using 
the 'grab' form.

Geoff, any clues how I might get an object to stay within the rect of 
its contained group?  I tested the form below (my original code was 
similar to this) but it doesn't work,

Cheers,

M@
Matt Denton


On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, at 05:37 PM, Geoff Canyon 
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You'd be better off doing something like:

local tDragging -- are we currently dragging?

on mouseDown
   -- check the target here to see if it's what you want
   put true into tDragging
end mouseDown

on mouseMove
   if not tDragging then exit mouseMove
   --move the objects here
end mouseMove

on mouseUp
   put false into tDragging
end mouseUp

on mouseRelease
   put false into tDragging
end mouseRelease

On Monday, January 27, 2003, at 09:12 PM, Matt Denton wrote:


on mouseDown
  if the optionKey is down then
repeat until the mouse is up
  set the loc of me to the mouseLoc
end repeat
  else grab me
end mouseDown



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Re: public beta?

2003-01-28 Thread miscdas
[snip]Alex Rice writes: 


Folks! this is just noise. If you killfile (filter) someone don't gloat 
about it and announce it on the list. Just do it, and be done with it. 

Alex Rice, Software Developer

Mr. Rice,
Aha!  There is, indeed, a bright spot of vocal sanity left on the list! 
Kudos for your perception. 

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