Re: RevDB (kind of)
At 1:00 pm -0800 27/1/03, Richard Gaskin wrote: It's not specific to Rev: the term is an abbreviation of CURrent Selection Of Records. It's been in database parlance for some years, though I'm mystified as to how the term was ever gained acceptance given the even older use of cursor to refer to the flashing indicator for text entry. nostalgia I'd always imagined its use was derived from the cursor on a slide rule. (Remember those?) I have this image of lining up database tables much like you'd line up the parts of the slide rule, and then whatever lies under the transparent cursor is the set of matching found records. /nostalgia Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Saving User-Entered Text
Is there a way to prevent RR from being able to open a password-protected stack? Unfortunately not. But you can ask for the password on openstack, which is not really safe... But you cannot see and edit the scripts and cannot copy objects... And you can delete object and save afterwards... Big fun... What do you think of the idea of saving data in the main stack script of an external password-protected stack? Sounds good? Valetia ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Saving User-Entered Text (The Solution)
Hi Joseph, ... on opencard put url(file:userinput.txt) into fld userinput end opencard et voila you are in the profesional preferences writing-business ;-) Klaus, thanks for the excellent reply. And thanks to all the others who responded to this query. Your solution of using the URL keyword was just what I was looking for (although I wouldn't have guessed that user-modified fields aren't automatically saved in Rev :). I understand the security issues put forth in several other notes, but in my case the user is simply specifying a directory to save text files into. My near-final code looks like this (note: as I'm working on a Windows platform, please excuse the path name ;): on openStack put URL file:/Program Files/TextDisplay/savedir.txt into fld Directory end openStack on closeStack put fld Directory into URL file:/Program Files/TextDisplay/savedir.txt end closeStack I found it interesting that I didn't have to specify which drive (C:\ etc.) I wanted to read/write to even though I have several in my PC. That's col. But i would not rely on that ;-) Also note that the slashes (/) are backwards from normal Windows file path slashes (\) for some reason. That's the way pathnames are handled in RR. They do it internally the unix way and the engines will translate to the proper platform path :-) Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
public beta?
I know that it is not politically correct to whine about the delay of 2.0 on this list, since complaints are usually bombarded with the wise and ethically superior they're working so hard, give them a break and we want a good product, we're ready to wait... kind of answers -- but the Revolution Website claims that their development process is better advanced now, allowing us to make a more accurate estimate than previously and that they will be shipping a public beta of 2.0 in mid January. Come on, guys, we all love Revolution -- that's why we're here, yet I would still like to get a response from the Revolution team: what went wrong this time, and how much longer do we need to wait, again? All best, Toma Toma Tasovac Princeton University Department of Comparative Literature 91 Prospect Avenue Princeton, NJ 08544 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: public beta?
[snip]Toma Tasovac writes: I know that it is not politically correct to whine about the delay of 2.0 on this list, since complaints are usually bombarded with the wise and ethically superior they're working so hard, give them a break and we want a good product, we're ready to wait... kind of answers I would still like to get a response from the Revolution team:? All best, Toma = So Toma, if you want a response from the revolution team, why are you addressing the mail list? Revolution has other more pertinent means of connecting to them than this list. Use your head... miscdas ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: public beta?
On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, at 01:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So Toma, if you want a response from the revolution team, why are you addressing the mail list? Revolution has other more pertinent means of connecting to them than this list. why am i addressing the mail list? because the revolution team used the list on several occasions to provide information regarding Rev 2; and because i think the answer would be of interest to many people on the list. Use your head... hmmm... does my appalling lack of intelligence offend you? if it does, i'm very sorry. we can't all be brilliant, you know. T. ___ Toma Tasovac Princeton University Department of Comparative Literature 91 Prospect Avenue Princeton, NJ 08544 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: public beta?
[snip}Toma Tasovac writes: On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, at 01:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So Toma, if you want a response from the revolution team, why are you addressing the mail list? Revolution has other more pertinent means of connecting to them than this list. why am i addressing the mail list? because the revolution team used the list on several occasions to provide information regarding Rev 2; and because i think the answer would be of interest to many people on the list. Use your head... hmmm... does my appalling lack of intelligence offend you? if it does, i'm very sorry. we can't all be brilliant, you know. T. ___ Toma, I must repeat-- USE YOUR HEAD! Intelligence level is of little relevance. I suspect the RR team uses the list to post announcements as courtesy to the subscribers and perhaps because as you said, the answer would be of interest to many people on the list. They could just as easily post all the product announcements to the website. If there is post-worthy news from the RR team, don't you think they would post it? (Or am I presumptuous to include think when addressing you?) Why don't you go do your thing, let them do their thing, and when you or they have something post-worthy, post it! Until then, some clear air please. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
openbase
Has anyone put a revolution front end on an openbase database? I'm having problems getting the odbc connection working, but thought better check first whether it's been done before susie ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: public beta?
I'm sorry to interrupt this new post, but I think there is no reason at all to be so rude and obnoxious to anybody on this list, when he asks a question which is on all of our minds! It was a normal question and please keep this kind of answers to yourself, it is more frustrating then the question itself. If our RR friends think they have to respond, they will take action, nobody made you list mom, we already have a very good one, so if you think this list is being abused, find yourself a new hobby and leave the posts over here to people who do appreciate the answers... Regards, Ton Kuypers From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 08:10:04 -0600 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: public beta? [snip}Toma Tasovac writes: On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, at 01:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So Toma, if you want a response from the revolution team, why are you addressing the mail list? Revolution has other more pertinent means of connecting to them than this list. why am i addressing the mail list? because the revolution team used the list on several occasions to provide information regarding Rev 2; and because i think the answer would be of interest to many people on the list. Use your head... hmmm... does my appalling lack of intelligence offend you? if it does, i'm very sorry. we can't all be brilliant, you know. T. ___ Toma, I must repeat-- USE YOUR HEAD! Intelligence level is of little relevance. I suspect the RR team uses the list to post announcements as courtesy to the subscribers and perhaps because as you said, the answer would be of interest to many people on the list. They could just as easily post all the product announcements to the website. If there is post-worthy news from the RR team, don't you think they would post it? (Or am I presumptuous to include think when addressing you?) Why don't you go do your thing, let them do their thing, and when you or they have something post-worthy, post it! Until then, some clear air please. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: public beta?
On Dienstag, Jan 28, 2003, at 15:10 Europe/Zurich, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... If there is post-worthy news from the RR team, don't you think they would post it? (Or am I presumptuous to include think when addressing you?) Actually history shows, that this company does not send any feedback, or info about the release dates, or slipping thereof without many, many angry mails to this list. The information tactic seems to be that they wait until some people get pissed of, and only then send a note about how they are sorry for not keeping up with their promises. Unlike the Improve list, which gets at least to see a new beta every two month or so, this happens only all 4 months. We have thus another 3 months to wait for the next official note on slipping from runrev ;-) not that this differs from any other company I've had contact to, seems to be a general problem, not a runrev specific one... have fun Bjoernke ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: public beta?
I wasn't bold enough to respond as you did. I apologize. However I support your post fully. djl At 03:31 PM 1/28/03 +0100, you wrote: I'm sorry to interrupt this new post, but I think there is no reason at all to be so rude and obnoxious to anybody on this list, when he asks a question which is on all of our minds! It was a normal question and please keep this kind of answers to yourself, it is more frustrating then the question itself. If our RR friends think they have to respond, they will take action, nobody made you list mom, we already have a very good one, so if you think this list is being abused, find yourself a new hobby and leave the posts over here to people who do appreciate the answers... Regards, Ton Kuypers From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 08:10:04 -0600 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: public beta? [snip}Toma Tasovac writes: On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, at 01:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So Toma, if you want a response from the revolution team, why are you addressing the mail list? Revolution has other more pertinent means of connecting to them than this list. why am i addressing the mail list? because the revolution team used the list on several occasions to provide information regarding Rev 2; and because i think the answer would be of interest to many people on the list. Use your head... hmmm... does my appalling lack of intelligence offend you? if it does, i'm very sorry. we can't all be brilliant, you know. T. ___ Toma, I must repeat-- USE YOUR HEAD! Intelligence level is of little relevance. I suspect the RR team uses the list to post announcements as courtesy to the subscribers and perhaps because as you said, the answer would be of interest to many people on the list. They could just as easily post all the product announcements to the website. If there is post-worthy news from the RR team, don't you think they would post it? (Or am I presumptuous to include think when addressing you?) Why don't you go do your thing, let them do their thing, and when you or they have something post-worthy, post it! Until then, some clear air please. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution == || Dave LeYanna || || Director IS || || Right to Life of Michigan|| == ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
public beta?
Message: 12 Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 13:18:16 +0100 Subject: public beta? From: Toma Tasovac [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I know that it is not politically correct to whine about the delay of 2.0 on this list, since complaints are usually bombarded with the wise and ethically superior they're working so hard, give them a break and we want a good product, we're ready to wait... kind of answers -- but the Revolution Website claims that their development process is better advanced now, allowing us to make a more accurate estimate than previously and that they will be shipping a public beta of 2.0 in mid January. Come on, guys, we all love Revolution -- that's why we're here, yet I would still like to get a response from the Revolution team: what went wrong this time, and how much longer do we need to wait, again? A small slippage. Soon, soon. No really. I'm not saying anymore, because dates always get me into trouble. The reason the team is not responding is because they're all working so hard to get that beta out. I can't give you details about the delay because I do admin, not coding. Everybody that could give you more info is busy coding like mad. The best to you too, and please, be patient, once more, just a little longer... Regards, Heather All best, Toma Toma Tasovac ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: openbase
And forgot to mention, am using it on windows 2000 -Original Message- From: sschofield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 28 January 2003 14:14 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: openbase Has anyone put a revolution front end on an openbase database? I'm having problems getting the odbc connection working, but thought better check first whether it's been done before susie ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: public beta?
I'm sorry to interrupt this new post, but I think there is no reason at all to be so rude and obnoxious to anybody on this list, when he asks a question which is on all of our minds! It was a normal question and please keep this kind of answers to yourself, it is more frustrating then the question itself. If our RR friends think they have to respond, they will take action, nobody made you list mom, we already have a very good one, so if you think this list is being abused, find yourself a new hobby and leave the posts over here to people who do appreciate the answers... Regards, Ton Kuypers From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 08:10:04 -0600 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: public beta? [snip}Toma Tasovac writes: On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, at 01:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So Toma, if you want a response from the revolution team, why are you addressing the mail list? Revolution has other more pertinent means of connecting to them than this list. why am i addressing the mail list? because the revolution team used the list on several occasions to provide information regarding Rev 2; and because i think the answer would be of interest to many people on the list. Use your head... hmmm... does my appalling lack of intelligence offend you? if it does, i'm very sorry. we can't all be brilliant, you know. T. ___ Toma, I must repeat-- USE YOUR HEAD! Intelligence level is of little relevance. I suspect the RR team uses the list to post announcements as courtesy to the subscribers and perhaps because as you said, the answer would be of interest to many people on the list. They could just as easily post all the product announcements to the website. If there is post-worthy news from the RR team, don't you think they would post it? (Or am I presumptuous to include think when addressing you?) Why don't you go do your thing, let them do their thing, and when you or they have something post-worthy, post it! Until then, some clear air please. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: No scroll wheel (newbie stuff)?
On Montag, Jänner 27, 2003, at 10:20 Uhr, Ken Ray wrote: I'm seeing no scrollwheel support in Rev 1.1.1 on OS X. Maybe it is Windows-only? Nope, definitely not Windows only. Might have to do with the version of underlying MetaCard engine. I'm using MC 2.4.3 -- not sure which MC version Rev 1.1.1 is based on. It's based on 2.4.1, I believe. Oho, what an interesting theme... Until today I thought, or should I say, a lot of people tried to make me believe, that I m the only one, who has struggled with this delicate engine issue... Thanks a lot Scott Rossi... regards Wolfgang M. Bereuter Learn easy with trainingsmaps© INTERNETTRAINER Wolfgang M. Bereuter Edelhofg. 17/11, A-1180 Wien, Austria ... http://www.internettrainer.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... Tel: ++43/1/ 961 0418, Fax: ++43/1/ 479 2539 regards Wolfgang M. Bereuter Learn easy with trainingsmaps© INTERNETTRAINER Wolfgang M. Bereuter Edelhofg. 17/11, A-1180 Wien, Austria ... http://www.internettrainer.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... Tel: ++43/1/ 961 0418, Fax: ++43/1/ 479 2539 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
tool states
Hi Anyone know how to determine the state of a tool.? I want to be able to get the state of the browse tool ie. is it enabled or not. Thanks in advance. Steve Stephen R. Messimer, PA 208 1st Ave. South Escanaba, MI 49829 www.messimercomputing.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: tool states
--- Stephen Messimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Anyone know how to determine the state of a tool.? I want to be able to get the state of the browse tool ie. is it enabled or not. Thanks in advance. Steve Hi Steve, Have a look at the entry for the 'tool' function in the transcript dictionary. It tells you what tool is active. Hope this helped, Jan Schenkel. = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
query about binary encoding images
I understand that when I move images between files, I need to binary encode them or refer to them as binfiles. However when I want to send an image to a remote machine using ftp or write there seems to be no option to binary encode or refer to the image as a binfile. If this is not the case, please correct me and / or if there is a solution, any help would be appreciated. Regards, Sian
Re: No scroll wheel (newbie stuff)?
** Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 18:13:29 -0700 (MST) From: Scott Raney [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: No scroll wheel (newbie stuff)? -- This is corn-fusin'. In the first sentence you said: -- Correction: it's most assuredly *not* part of Mac OS and there isn't even any API support for it. -- In the next paragraph you said: -- Mouse wheels *do* work on Win32, MacOS, and Linux systems because there is OS API support for this hardware feature on these platforms. -- One must be true and the other not. Which is which? Sincerely, Ken N. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Scripting the Geometry Manager
I have a field which correctly adjusts its size in response to resizing of the window via the geometry manager. This works fine but I would also like to optionally insert another object between the field and the bottom of the window. I can't see where to script the settings in the geometry manager for an object. The effect I want is similar to drawers in OS X but I can't wait for Rev 2.0 which I believe has this feature. If I could script an object's geo manager setting, show/hide the new object, resize window, then update the screen this would work. Thanks, Bill Vlahos Bill Vlahos IT Manager, AeroVironment Inc. Work: 805-581-2187 x306 Cell: 805-490-9992 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: No scroll wheel (newbie stuff)?
Ken, I think Scott meant that there it is not part of Mac OS X; that there's a way to get it to work with a hack in OS 9, but not in OS X. Win32 and Linux have built-in OS-level API support. Or at least, that's what I believe... ;-) Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ - Original Message - From: Ken Norris (dialup) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 11:09 AM Subject: Re: No scroll wheel (newbie stuff)? ** Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 18:13:29 -0700 (MST) From: Scott Raney [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: No scroll wheel (newbie stuff)? -- This is corn-fusin'. In the first sentence you said: -- Correction: it's most assuredly *not* part of Mac OS and there isn't even any API support for it. -- In the next paragraph you said: -- Mouse wheels *do* work on Win32, MacOS, and Linux systems because there is OS API support for this hardware feature on these platforms. -- One must be true and the other not. Which is which? Sincerely, Ken N. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: query about binary encoding images
Oops... typo: that would be the libURLftpUploadFile() command.. On Dienstag, Jan 28, 2003, at 18:47 Europe/Zurich, Björnke von Gierke wrote: try the ftpuploadfile() command On Dienstag, Jan 28, 2003, at 17:43 Europe/Zurich, sjoel wrote: I understand that when I move images between files, I need to binary encode them or refer to them as binfiles. However when I want to send an image to a remote machine using ftp or write there seems to be no option to binary encode or refer to the image as a binfile. If this is not the case, please correct me and / or if there is a solution, any help would be appreciated. Regards, Sian ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: No scroll wheel (newbie stuff)?
On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, at 10:45 AM, Ken Ray wrote: of Mac OS X; that there's a way to get it to work with a hack in OS 9, but not in OS X. Win32 and Linux have built-in OS-level API support. There IS scrollwheel support in OS X, via the Carbon, Cocoa or Applescript APIs. Scott probably wrote MacOS where he meant MacOS X. Alex Rice, Software Developer Architectural Research Consultants, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Scripting the Geometry Manager
--- Bill Vlahos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a field which correctly adjusts its size in response to resizing of the window via the geometry manager. This works fine but I would also like to optionally insert another object between the field and the bottom of the window. I can't see where to script the settings in the geometry manager for an object. The effect I want is similar to drawers in OS X but I can't wait for Rev 2.0 which I believe has this feature. If I could script an object's geo manager setting, show/hide the new object, resize window, then update the screen this would work. Thanks, Bill Vlahos Hi Bill, You'll have to do a bit of digging, but I think that data is stored in the custom property cRevGeometry[master,scaleBottomDistance] of the object. So I think if you change that, along with the corresponding item in the custom property cRevGeometry[master,expectedRect] you should be able to trick the Geometry Manager into resizing things correctly upon 'revUpdateGeometry'. Hope this helped, Jan Schenkel. = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: No scroll wheel (newbie stuff)?
I'm sure you're right, Alex. I had it backwards... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ - Original Message - From: Alex Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 12:02 PM Subject: Re: No scroll wheel (newbie stuff)? On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, at 10:45 AM, Ken Ray wrote: of Mac OS X; that there's a way to get it to work with a hack in OS 9, but not in OS X. Win32 and Linux have built-in OS-level API support. There IS scrollwheel support in OS X, via the Carbon, Cocoa or Applescript APIs. Scott probably wrote MacOS where he meant MacOS X. Alex Rice, Software Developer Architectural Research Consultants, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Scripting the Geometry Manager
--- Jan Schenkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Bill Vlahos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a field which correctly adjusts its size in response to resizing of the window via the geometry manager. This works fine but I would also like to optionally insert another object between the field and the bottom of the window. I can't see where to script the settings in the geometry manager for an object. The effect I want is similar to drawers in OS X but I can't wait for Rev 2.0 which I believe has this feature. If I could script an object's geo manager setting, show/hide the new object, resize window, then update the screen this would work. Thanks, Bill Vlahos Hi Bill, You'll have to do a bit of digging, but I think that data is stored in the custom property cRevGeometry[master,scaleBottomDistance] of the object. So I think if you change that, along with the corresponding item in the custom property cRevGeometry[master,expectedRect] you should be able to trick the Geometry Manager into resizing things correctly upon 'revUpdateGeometry'. Come to think of it, this is a good case for the profile manager if you're not using it for other purposes: simply define a profile DrawerOpened and set everything up under that profile, and switch between Master and DrawerOpened by changing the cRevGeneral[profile] of the objects. Jan Schenkel. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: No scroll wheel (newbie stuff)?
Ken Norris (dialup) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is corn-fusin'. In the first sentence you said: -- Correction: it's most assuredly *not* part of Mac OS and there isn't even any API support for it. -- In the next paragraph you said: -- Mouse wheels *do* work on Win32, MacOS, and Linux systems because there is OS API support for this hardware feature on these platforms. -- One must be true and the other not. Which is which? It was a typo. The last sentence should be Mouse wheels *do* work on Win32, MacOS X, and Linux... Scroll wheel support works fine for me in OS X and is built into the MetaCard engine as of (I think) version 2.4.3. It does not work in Mac OS 8/9. However, I think you can add the capability yourself with a script. You'll need to trap rawKeyDown, check to see if the mousecontrol is a field, and if so, set its scroll appropriately. The keycode for scrolling up is 65309, for scrolling down it is 65308. This won't work if no keycodes are sent when the wheel is scrolled (which someone reported earlier) but I am pretty sure I had it working in OS 9. You'll have to do some tests. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Custom cursors - anyone?
On Tue, 28 Jan 2003 Barry Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't anyone using a cursor of their own design? How is it done? Both RR and MC use these all over the place in their own UIs, so it's certainly supported. The problem is that most image editing programs store images with full colormaps even when only a couple of colors are used. The engine doesn't know what colors are actually used in those images, and so just chooses the first two which are often (usually?) not where the data is actually stored. The solution is simple: just paint on the imported cursor image with one of the painting tools (e.g., paint a black pixel black with the pencil tool) which will cause the engine to do a proper colormap calculation which will allow it to show the image correctly as a cursor. Note that you will have to close the image after painting it and before using it as a cursor, either by closing the card or stack the image was imported onto. Also, note that the built-in painting tools are more than adequate for this kind of work and so there's no real reason to use an external image editing program at all IMHO. Regards, Scott Thanks, Barry Scott Raney [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.metacard.com MetaCard: You know, there's an easier way to do that... ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: No scroll wheel (newbie stuff)?
On Tue, 28 Jan 2003 Ken Norris (dialup) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is corn-fusin'. In the first sentence you said: -- Correction: it's most assuredly *not* part of Mac OS and there isn't even any API support for it. -- In the next paragraph you said: -- Mouse wheels *do* work on Win32, MacOS, and Linux systems because there is OS API support for this hardware feature on these platforms. -- One must be true and the other not. Which is which? Apologies, my mistake. That line should be: Mouse wheels *do* work on Win32, MacOS X, and Linux systems because Regards, Scott Sincerely, Ken N. Scott Raney [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.metacard.com MetaCard: You know, there's an easier way to do that... ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
license.rev corruption?
I had my first Revolution crash this weekend. The crash resulted, I believe, in my license key being corrupted, and I think that's probably it. Anyway, the detail below is a little long winded, but insight and feedback would be greatly appreciated. Scenario: Was using the development environment running an application I'd built. When the application is executing there were 5 stacks open. All were main stacks. The primary stack is used to input data which is used to retrieve matching data from one of other open stacks, and then update that stack based on new information that was input. Each of the stacks may, based on the data it was fed, generate printed output. For all of the stacks but one, when printing a card, the card is always printed into a rect, usually the rect of a hidden field on the first card of the stack. The remaining stack (STACK D, lets say) uses cards which are always half-page in size, and therefore it prints the cards as a job. The target printer was an HP 4100 NT. Printing via Appletalk. Primary machine was PowerBook G3 Pizmo running OS 10.2.3.The Odd Things happened using Classic Rev 1.1.1 AND Rev 1.1.1 for OS X.Odd Thing #1 happened when running on OS 9.2.2 on a PowerBook G3 Lombard. After running for several hours (in the Classic environment), Rev hung during a Print Card command - actually one that was generated from the keyboard. I waited several minutes to let things clear themselves, and they didn't. I used the force quit function, but then wasn't able to restart revolution at all. That's when I switched to running Rev for OS X. This ran fine for a couple more hours, then the same thing happened, and I couldn't get Rev to run at all. Restarted the box. No effect. Eventually had to fileshare the stacks to another machine to get up and running.When I got home last night, I downloaded Rev Classic again, and it ran fine. I need my pro license installed to run my app so tried copying my license key over from the old area and restarting Rev. It wouldn't start. So, I simply put the new license key into the old Rev area, and presto, we're running again. So, the $50 question, is the license key actively used while running in the development environment such that it can be corrupted during a crash? If so, does this have any implication on standalone apps? Just a little spooked. Thanks. Ray ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Setting Pixels
Recently, Robert J Warren (Howsoft.com) wrote: All I want to do is something which is as easy as falling off a log in VB. I want to move the mouse around a window (over an image perhaps, but not necessarily) and to draw a line of pixels as I go - i.e. construct a very primitive drawing program. I would be grateful if anyone could help. Sounds like you could simply use the paint tools and an image object overlaying whatever you want to draw on. See the docs under choosing tools (choose command) and: - pencil - brush - spray can - bucket Alternatively, you could use draw graphics, using the curve tool for free-form drawing, or primitive shapes and polygons, but this can create multiple objects, depending on how you implement it. Hopefully there's something here you can use. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
public beta?
[SNIP]Heather writes: A small slippage. Soon, soon. No really. I'm not saying anymore, because dates always get me into trouble. The best to you too, and please, be patient, once more, just a little longer... Regards, Heather = (Listening in on one side of phone chat...) What? Oh yeah, yeah, uh-huh. Sure. That's what I heard... No. Well, I heard it somewhere before. You know- the V word. Sure you do! VAPORWARE Repeat that please... OK OK I got it. Let me write that down. The road to Hell is paved with good intentions. No, not too busy. Just sitting around sniffling and whining about not seeing the Revolution 2.0 yet. Yeah, you're right. If I spent half the time coding as I do asking about updates, I'd have all of my jobs finished already. Nice talking to you. Yeah, I'm sure I can find a place to use that quote. Bye miscdas ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
public beta?
[SNIP]Heather writes: A small slippage. Soon, soon. No really. I'm not saying anymore, because dates always get me into trouble. The best to you too, and please, be patient, once more, just a little longer... Regards, Heather = (Listening in on one side of phone chat...) What? Oh yeah, yeah, uh-huh. Sure. That's what I heard... No. Well, I heard it somewhere before. You know- the V word. Sure you do! VAPORWARE Repeat that please... OK OK I got it. Let me write that down. The road to Hell is paved with good intentions. No, not too busy. Just sitting around sniffling and whining about not seeing the Revolution 2.0 yet. Yeah, you're right. If I spent half the time coding as I do asking about updates, I'd have all of my jobs finished already. Nice talking to you. Yeah, I'm sure I can find a place to use that quote. Bye miscdas ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: public beta?
Hi List I think it's fair that I inform the list that I have made a rule to automatically delete any message that contains miscdas and/or is sent from [EMAIL PROTECTED]. I have done this for a number of reasons that I'd be happy to explain to people off list. Regards Monte ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Setting Pixels
Recently, Robert J Warren (Howsoft.com) wrote: All I want to do is something which is as easy as falling off a log in VB. I want to move the mouse around a window (over an image perhaps, but not necessarily) and to draw a line of pixels as I go - i.e. construct a very primitive drawing program. I would be grateful if anyone could help. Sounds like you could simply use the paint tools and an image object overlaying whatever you want to draw on. See the docs under choosing tools (choose command) and: - pencil - brush - spray can - bucket Alternatively, you could use draw graphics, using the curve tool for free-form drawing, or primitive shapes and polygons, but this can create multiple objects, depending on how you implement it. Hopefully there's something here you can use. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design Robert, Just to add a bit to Scott's good advice: If you would like some tools to facilitate this kind of drawing, the ideal is Turtle Graphics. You can control the turtle (drawing cursor) with such simple commands as: Relative tools (independent of a coordinate system): Forward,Back, Left, Right, setHeading, etc. Absolute tools (coordinate based): setXY, incrementXY, xyCoordinates(), xCor() etc. . The good people at RR have posted a demo stack in the Education page on the RunRev site: http://www.runrev.com/revolution/education/usercontributions.html Check the User Contributions. This is intended primarily for an elementary course in programing in Transcript and Turtle Graphics for science students, but it may also work for you. Jim Hurley ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: public beta?
Monte, Could you contact me offlist to let me know how to setup one of those rules? thx, Chipp -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Monte Goulding Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 4:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: public beta? Hi List I think it's fair that I inform the list that I have made a rule to automatically delete any message that contains miscdas and/or is sent from [EMAIL PROTECTED]. I have done this for a number of reasons that I'd be happy to explain to people off list. Regards Monte ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: public beta?
To be fair, I know that I have been ungraceful in the past and have expressed myself in ways that I shouldn't have or said things that I regretted. Some people refer to that as an unresourceful state of mind and sometime it takes a while to recover. djl At 09:08 AM 1/29/03 +1030, you wrote: Hi List I think it's fair that I inform the list that I have made a rule to automatically delete any message that contains miscdas and/or is sent from [EMAIL PROTECTED]. I have done this for a number of reasons that I'd be happy to explain to people off list. Regards Monte ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution == || Dave LeYanna || || Director IS || || Right to Life of Michigan|| == ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: license.rev corruption?
Hi Ray, While I've had a similar thing happen in the past during development, I've never seen it happen from a standalone. Standalones by definition do not require a license key. I usually back up my license key for both RR and MC 'just in case.' Also, do serial backups on your stack while in development. I've a plugin which helps. Good luck!! -Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Software Protection Issues
While researching software registration and piracy-protection issues, my partner came across a VERY interesting article with a number of common-sense suggestions that might be of general interest: http://www.scalabium.com/articles/protection.htm I hope this information might prove useful! Kind Regards, -- Igor de Oliveira Couto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: public beta?
Hey folks Why don't we stop sniveling about 2.0, insulting each other and the crew at Revolution and let them get on with their job. Once they have finished I am confident they will amaze us. James From: Dave LeYanna [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 18:20:54 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: public beta? To be fair, I know that I have been ungraceful in the past and have expressed myself in ways that I shouldn't have or said things that I regretted. Some people refer to that as an unresourceful state of mind and sometime it takes a while to recover. djl At 09:08 AM 1/29/03 +1030, you wrote: Hi List I think it's fair that I inform the list that I have made a rule to automatically delete any message that contains miscdas and/or is sent from [EMAIL PROTECTED]. I have done this for a number of reasons that I'd be happy to explain to people off list. Regards Monte ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution == || Dave LeYanna || || Director IS || || Right to Life of Michigan|| == ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: public beta?
He really is a pain in the ass, I've just done the same thing for this boxfrog person... I really don't understand his behaviour... Ton From: james lewes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 18:42:17 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: public beta? Hey folks Why don't we stop sniveling about 2.0, insulting each other and the crew at Revolution and let them get on with their job. Once they have finished I am confident they will amaze us. James From: Dave LeYanna [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 18:20:54 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: public beta? To be fair, I know that I have been ungraceful in the past and have expressed myself in ways that I shouldn't have or said things that I regretted. Some people refer to that as an unresourceful state of mind and sometime it takes a while to recover. djl At 09:08 AM 1/29/03 +1030, you wrote: Hi List I think it's fair that I inform the list that I have made a rule to automatically delete any message that contains miscdas and/or is sent from [EMAIL PROTECTED]. I have done this for a number of reasons that I'd be happy to explain to people off list. Regards Monte ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution == || Dave LeYanna || || Director IS || || Right to Life of Michigan|| == ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
filename differences in Rev MC
I'm doing an applescript from Rev (it attaches an image to a new email in OSX Mail). I have Rev get the filename and replace the / with : so the applescript line ends up like the following and all works well. set this_imagefile to ¬ alias Macintosh HD:Users:jimsims:Desktop:Kartolina 1.5:MyCards:ccv.jpg BUT if I do the same using an opener stack made with MetaCard (Workaround so the app will show Application in the Get Info - not Classic ugh) I get the following: set this_imagefile to ¬ alias Users:jimsims:Desktop:Kartolina 1.5:MyCards:ccv.jpg IOW The filename starts with Users and not the name of the HD. Any suggestions on how to obtain the HD name so I can add it to the applescript? The applescript requires the complete path. atb sims -- --- http://EZPZapps.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Software - Internet Development - Consulting ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: public beta?
On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, at 05:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He really is a pain in the ass, I've just done the same thing for this boxfrog person... I really don't understand his behaviour... Ton Folks! this is just noise. If you killfile (filter) someone don't gloat about it and announce it on the list. Just do it, and be done with it. Alex Rice, Software Developer Architectural Research Consultants, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Release strategy (Was: public beta?)
I would like to make a suggestions to RunRev, and the reason I am posting it here on the list is to see if other people agree with the suggestion, and if so, I would ask you to let RunRev know that you agree, maybe off-list if that's the most appropriate way. The old Rev 1.1.1 engine has some glitches with Mac OSX Jaguar that must be avoided. However, the problem is already fixed in the engine--but there still haven't been any new releases to the engine. I would say that waiting for new features is not too bad. However many months you wait for a new capability is acceptable, since you can work quite well with what you have now. No problem there, I think people will be happy and patient and look forward to the great new stuff all in good time. That's how I feel about it. But OS incompatibilities are a different story--with something like that which affects the features you currently have, you want a fix sooner. And it may be possible that this kind of situation with Appearance Manager or something else happens again, so I think considering a long term strategy would be a good idea. My proposal is for RunRev to have a strategy that prioritizes fixes for this kind of major issue, so that normally the work would be going on with new features and normal bug fixes for a future release as usual (and not too much hurry on that) but when there is a big OS glitch or something like that, a maintenance release could be offered very soon, perhaps simply the last major version of Rev bundled with the new MC engine and as few changes as are necessary to make that possible. Hopefully the situation wouldn't arise often, but if it did, having this kind of plan in place already would help. Plus, it might even take off a bit of the pressure off feature releases since people aren't also waiting for such vital fixes at the same time. (Personally, I would prefer that there's not too much pressure on people, it's better for the health.) So, I think there would be advantages for both the customers and the developers in having this kind of strategy. Do you think that's a reasonable idea? RunRev, would you consider it? Thanks, Curry (And P.S., just in case anyone would say well why not just get Jaguar, yes, that's a way to do it, and I'm considering that right now--last year, during October-December, it always seemed like Rev would be released soon enough that it wouldn't be necessary. So I will be pursuing that option, or using beta testers. But that still doesn't take away from the need to have a strategy, since it may not be convenient for everyone to upgrade OS right away for one reason or another, and avoiding the glitches will still be an added complication to development. So when the problem is fixed in the engine, it is still necessary to focus on getting that fix to people as soon as possible. And P.P.S., to Toma or anyone who wants to keep track of progress, it does help to subscribe to the MetaCard list too, then you can guage generally how things are going although not exactly, plus you can try out the non Rev-specific features with MC test releases.) ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: public beta?
No explanation necessary. Sometimes the good old filter is better than increasing the blood-pressure medication. ;-) ~Roger Hi List I think it's fair that I inform the list that I have made a rule to automatically delete any message that contains miscdas and/or is sent from [EMAIL PROTECTED]. I have done this for a number of reasons that I'd be happy to explain to people off list. Regards Monte ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: filename differences in Rev MC
Try this: line 1 of the drives Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ - Original Message - From: sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 6:14 PM Subject: filename differences in Rev MC I'm doing an applescript from Rev (it attaches an image to a new email in OSX Mail). I have Rev get the filename and replace the / with : so the applescript line ends up like the following and all works well. set this_imagefile to ¬ alias Macintosh HD:Users:jimsims:Desktop:Kartolina 1.5:MyCards:ccv.jpg BUT if I do the same using an opener stack made with MetaCard (Workaround so the app will show Application in the Get Info - not Classic ugh) I get the following: set this_imagefile to ¬ alias Users:jimsims:Desktop:Kartolina 1.5:MyCards:ccv.jpg IOW The filename starts with Users and not the name of the HD. Any suggestions on how to obtain the HD name so I can add it to the applescript? The applescript requires the complete path. atb sims -- --- http://EZPZapps.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Software - Internet Development - Consulting ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Setting Pixels
Dear Jim, Many thanks for the very interesting advice on the setting pixels problem. I'll certainly follow it up. Regards, Bob Warren ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: filename differences in Rev MC
Try this: line 1 of the drives Ken Ray Grazzi Ken, That's is where I left off last night before bed the email to the list (the drives). Nice to wake up know I'm going in the right direction. ;-) atb sims -- --- http://EZPZapps.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Software - Internet Development - Consulting ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Displaying two cards in different windows
Hi, I'm doing an apparent motion laboratory application in Revolution (which I'll probably end up doing it in Revolution, Java, AND Cocoa just for the heck of it - it is what the prof is having me do for the final project in the experimental methods class - I don't want it to see *too* easy!). Anyway, It needs to switch to images back and forth at a preset interval. Currently, I've got the switching set up by alternatively going to one of two cards in a stack. But can I let the user view (and edit) both of these cards at once, to create graphic objects ('open cd ## in new window'?)? Or is there another way I can do this (take a snapshot of each frame and then swap them into an image object, or using the Animation Manager? (Animation Manager seems a bit of overkill for just two or three frames) Thanks, Jim Witte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Indiana University Cogntivie Science ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Setting Pixels - Clarification
On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, at 07:24 PM, Robert J Warren ((Howsoft.com)) wrote: From the examples, this seems to mean in practice that if I want to change a single pixel in an image I need to read the whole image bitmap into a variable, change the pixel in the variable, and then copy the whole variable contents back into the image. Surely not! This is an incredibly slow process. How long does it take to copy an image? Maybe you can cut that in half by doing the read the whole image bitmap only once. Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Displaying two cards in different windows
On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, at 10:27 PM, Jim Witte wrote: Currently, I've got the switching set up by alternatively going to one of two cards in a stack. But can I let the user view (and edit) both of these cards at once, to create graphic objects ('open cd ## in new window'?)? Or is there another way I can do this (take a snapshot of each frame and then swap them into an image object, or using the Animation Manager? (Animation Manager seems a bit of overkill for just two or three frames)' Maybe a frame is a list of controls that are visible on a card. During editing all are visible. Or did I miss your goal? Maybe that list can really be a group. Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: To grab or not to grab
You'd be better off doing something like: local tDragging -- are we currently dragging? on mouseDown -- check the target here to see if it's what you want put true into tDragging end mouseDown on mouseMove if not tDragging then exit mouseMove --move the objects here end mouseMove on mouseUp put false into tDragging end mouseUp on mouseRelease put false into tDragging end mouseRelease On Monday, January 27, 2003, at 09:12 PM, Matt Denton wrote: on mouseDown if the optionKey is down then repeat until the mouse is up set the loc of me to the mouseLoc end repeat else grab me end mouseDown regards, Geoff Canyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Please stop
I should probably not even post this to the list. But all those private and compleetely irrelevant remarks should be stopped. We (sorry) should not act like police, but leave that to the listmasters/runrev people. Keep everything thats not strictly Revolution related away! Who cares whether som unknown person refuses to read mail from some other unknown person. Please stop all this now! Best regards Carsten Levin On onsdag, jan 29, 2003, at 02:48 Europe/Copenhagen, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi List I think it's fair that I inform the list that I have made a rule to automatically delete any message that contains miscdas and/or is sent from [EMAIL PROTECTED]. I have done this for a number of reasons that I'd be happy to explain to people off list. Regards Monte ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: To grab or not to grab
Hi Geoff, Whoops! Yes bad form, I usually (truly!) use this non-event hogging form (Old HC habits die hard you know...); I guess I was being a lazy typist as I was really looking for an answer on how to drag an object from within a group and have it crop at the boundaries without using the 'grab' form. Geoff, any clues how I might get an object to stay within the rect of its contained group? I tested the form below (my original code was similar to this) but it doesn't work, Cheers, M@ Matt Denton On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, at 05:37 PM, Geoff Canyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You'd be better off doing something like: local tDragging -- are we currently dragging? on mouseDown -- check the target here to see if it's what you want put true into tDragging end mouseDown on mouseMove if not tDragging then exit mouseMove --move the objects here end mouseMove on mouseUp put false into tDragging end mouseUp on mouseRelease put false into tDragging end mouseRelease On Monday, January 27, 2003, at 09:12 PM, Matt Denton wrote: on mouseDown if the optionKey is down then repeat until the mouse is up set the loc of me to the mouseLoc end repeat else grab me end mouseDown M@ Matt Denton . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LIMELIGHT MEDIA PTY LTD P] 61 2 9211 6622 F] 61 2 9211 5922 E] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/134 BROADWAY BROADWAY, SYDNEY NSW 2007 ABN 72 065 014 280 NOT YOUR EMAIL? If this e-mail is not for you, please let us know and destroy the original: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or call Sydney 61 2 9211 6622. Thanks for your kind help. LEGAL This e-mail is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above and may contain information that is confidential and privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this Email is strictly prohibited. Before opening or using attachments, check them for viruses and defects. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: public beta?
[snip]Alex Rice writes: Folks! this is just noise. If you killfile (filter) someone don't gloat about it and announce it on the list. Just do it, and be done with it. Alex Rice, Software Developer Mr. Rice, Aha! There is, indeed, a bright spot of vocal sanity left on the list! Kudos for your perception. miscdas ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution