Re: POST variables to CGI via URL with URLencoded string fails??
At 2:24 pm -1000 17/10/03, Sannyasin Sivakatirswami wrote: OK, that works great... can we depend on the order of the environment variables? i.e This works: put urlDecode (value(item 3 of the globals)) into tRemit and delivers the $QUERY_STRING value.. but if the order changed the cgi would break (depends on $QUERY_STRING being always item three of the globals) I don't understand why the order is important. Why can't you do this? put urlDecode($QUERY_STRING) into tRemit Cheers Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Saving to a Stack
Standalones on OS X ARE folders in disguise Greg, Klaus, et al: For this reason, as well as the Distribution Builder's apparent inability to place non-stack files folders in distribution folders, I find it easier to: * manually build a distribution folder containing all files stacks except the standalone * designate NO files (except Rev Libraries) other than the standalone source stack and No folders to the Distribution Builder * drag the completed standalone to my distribution folder once its built. Another approach to this particular OS X feature is to have the standalone search multiple paths for the stacks other files it needs. Eg: On Mac OS X platforms, my file search handler looks in both the folder containing the application bundle and the folder in the app bundle that contains the actual standalone. -- Rob Cozens CCW, Serendipity Software Company http://www.oenolog.net/who.htm And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three; Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee. from The Triple Foole by John Donne (1572-1631) ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Word wrap is ok
(From Ken Ray) No, it works just fine so long as there is whitespace (spaces, etc.) to allow it to wrap My mistake...I was testing by just typing a bunch of chars in the field. That would be 'Char Wrap' wouldn't it! ;-) Thanks Ken, JR ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Activating a button script when not in browse mode
This must be easy since it works in the IDE itself, but I can't see how to do the following: I want to create a button on a card that operates on a selected object on another card (this is to set certain custom props of the object as part of my development process - I need to do this a lot, so I wanted to automate it to some extent). I can easily create and script the button, but of course I can only select an object when I'm out of browse mode (when the cursor is an arrow), and then the button won't fire. I've tried sending 'mouseUp' to my button via the message box, but this doesn't seem to work. Can anyone explain how the trick can be done? TIA Graham --- Graham Samuel / The Living Fossil Co. / UK France ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Activating a button script when not in browse mode
On Saturday, October 18, 2003, at 10:15 AM, Graham Samuel wrote: I want to create a button on a card that operates on a selected object on another card Would a plugin do what you want? Dar Scott Dar Scott Consulting http://www.swcp.com/dsc/ Programming Services ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev2.1 Bug on a Dell Inspiron and some Dell Desktops - bugzilla #794
Kurt, Agreed. I hope my post didn't come across as scolding. It was simply a warning about the problem and how to avoid it (either stay with 2.0.3 or don't deploy on a Dell). I've got schools full of Dells so I'm back to using v2.0.3 until another revision beyond 2.1.1 is out...and its read me says that they've addressed the problem.) As for the QT problems: I've seen some PCs that have had their QT settings overridden by the Windoze media settings. In some of these cases, returning the QT settings to play most everything it can (rather than WMP) seems to fix it. I've reinstalled QT in the other misbehaving PCs and most of those now play QT media in my stacks properly. I am thinking that the Windoze media settings hijack QuickTime in some manner. Of course, this is just an educated guess and YMMV. Regards, Barry On Saturday, Oct 18, 2003, at 10:00 America/Denver, Kurt wrote: From: Kurt Kaufman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Rev2.1 Bug on a Dell Inspiron and some Dell Desktops - bugzilla#794 ...snip... As an aside: I have to admit that I don't know how the Rev team can keep up with all of these problems; at least where Apple Computer is concerned there is a limited number of expected hardware configurations. How could Rev be expected to predict how Win_OS_x would work on Hardware_y (and in this case using QT_version_z!) ?? ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
additional icons
Hi, all. I'm wondering if there is anywhere where I can easily get more icons to add to a kind of general store of them for standard Revolution development. For example, there are only a couple of next and previous navigational icons in the standard set, and they ain't that pretty, nor are the metacard icons that are included with RunRev. We could all use a couple of dozen more, I'm sure! So here are my questions: 1. where can I find additional (pretty) icons? What are the factors that one must consider with icons in general in RunRev? Where can I find a good discussion of this? 2. how consistent are icons across platforms, esp. Mac and Windows? Eg, can I insert an icon in a stack I'm developing on a Mac and will it then show up all pretty under Windows (assuming it begins that way on the Mac)? Thanks. rand ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
problems with google and list archive
Hi, all. I noticed a problem when I tried to google the list archive in my normal fashion, e.g., entering into the google search field: icons site:lists.runrev.com Well, google produces a nice list, but when you click on the link google provide, it doesn't link to the appropriate message. Now the links look like this: lists.runrev.com/pipermail/metacard/ 2003-April/004592.html So we see that messages are stored by year-month/ and then a number, such as 004562, above. But somehow the new system has massively screwed this up. Is there a way around this, or is it being fixed? thanks. rand ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
memory dimensions in stacks and standalones
Hi, all. 1. I'm working on a set of stacks which will provide quite a bit of information, representing a kind of encyclopedic dictionary of an American Indian language. I'm manipulating a lot of this info with various global arrays, and I'm wondering what sorts of limits on memory I need to think about. For example, I want to include a citation database -- that is, a collection of texts which can be used to provide examples to users of the dictionary -- this database could easily grow to 5 megabytes in size. If I have say, five other array files open that together take up 10-15 megabytes, will this be a problem? I just have no idea of how memory management works with runrev stacks (or any application!). And of course, I want my final dictionary to be a standalone. What do I need to worry about? 2. If I were to put my citation database in a text file, in order to look something up in that file, does the whole file have to be in memory? Thanks. rand ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: additional icons
Hi rand, Hi, all. I'm wondering if there is anywhere where I can easily get more icons to add to a kind of general store of them for standard Revolution development. For example, there are only a couple of next and previous navigational icons in the standard set, and they ain't that pretty, nor are the metacard icons that are included with RunRev. We could all use a couple of dozen more, I'm sure! So here are my questions: 1. where can I find additional (pretty) icons? Hmmm, search the web for FREE graphics... What are the factors that one must consider with icons in general in RunRev? Where can I find a good discussion of this? No discussion necessary, i think ;-) Since icons in RR are nothing more than IMAGES!!! displayed in BUTTONS!!! these images have just to be a RR-compatible format: (Remember: we set the icon of a button to the ID of an image!) JPEG (no transparency) GIF (1 Bit transparency possible) or PNG (8 bit tranparency possible) 2. how consistent are icons across platforms, esp. Mac and Windows? Eg, can I insert an icon in a stack I'm developing on a Mac and will it then show up all pretty under Windows (assuming it begins that way on the Mac)? Yes, see above... (...although it WILL look better on a mac most of the time ;-) Thanks. Hope that helps... rand Have a nice weekend. Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Activating a button script when not in browse mode
Graham, If you can put the button into a palette, the palette will have a different tool than the stack you're operating on. So you can have a browse tool on the palette, but an a select tool on the card you're attempting to operate on. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graham Samuel Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 11:15 AM To: RunRev Users List Subject: Activating a button script when not in browse mode This must be easy since it works in the IDE itself, but I can't see how to do the following: I want to create a button on a card that operates on a selected object on another card (this is to set certain custom props of the object as part of my development process - I need to do this a lot, so I wanted to automate it to some extent). I can easily create and script the button, but of course I can only select an object when I'm out of browse mode (when the cursor is an arrow), and then the button won't fire. I've tried sending 'mouseUp' to my button via the message box, but this doesn't seem to work. Can anyone explain how the trick can be done? TIA Graham --- Graham Samuel / The Living Fossil Co. / UK France ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use- revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Several newbie questions a documentation request
1) I am running an AppleScript to open an image sequence in QT Pro. The applescript is stored in a field, a replace is done on the variables and the do theScript as AppleScript. So far, so good. Except that Classic launches as the AppleScript tries to launch the OS 9 version of QT. Both from Script Editor and as a compiled script the script correctly launches QT in OS X. Any ideas? Do you have an OS X version of QT Pro? If so, what's its path? 2) The app has three option menu buttons to set video size, frame rate and pan direction (l/r). Is it just something in my coding (I tried to convert the info in the menu manager tutorial to the button) or are these always so slow to work? On a PB 1GHz and a P4 1.5GHz it can take up to 15 seconds for each menu button to become active! That's ridiculously slow... something else must be going on. Rev is really fast at this kind of stuff. When you say become active, do you mean that you initially have them in a disabled state and then it takes the time to re-enable them? Can you please clarify? 3) The 'New Developers' documentation needs a section on the differences between AppleScript and Transcript, if this has not already been added in 2.1! All the time wasted until I discovered that 'put 20 into variable' was the correct grammar, not 'set variable to 20' got irritating, especially as properties DO work in the 'set to' grammar. Agreed. 4) I can't see from the website, do the new video capabilities of Rev 2 include making video from image sequences? Sorry, can't help you there (video's not my strong suit). 5) Is it possible to export a snapsho directly to file? I am currently importing the snapshot and then exporting it to JPEG, but of course this results in a huge amount of flicker and general nastiness as I am generating up to 1500 snapshots in a row. Sure, the export snapshot command allows you to do this, but this was introduced in Rev 2.1, so you'd have to upgrade to get this feature. Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Several newbie questions a documentation request
One other thing, Ian... there's a bunch of tips on using Rev at my site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/revolution.htm that might help out in your development. Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Getting MC CGI to work on OS X with Web Sharing turned on
On 10/18/03 11:56 AM, Ken Ray wrote: 7) Create the rest of your site in the Site folder and when you want to refer to the CGI, simply use IP/cgi-bin/script. Or you can use localhost if you don't want to hard-code an IP: http://localhost/cgi-bin/simple.cgi Saves some trouble if you have dynamic DNS through a router. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Can't build Standalone with document icon
I'm developing on a Windows XP system and I've been coding, saving, using the IDE and building distributions for some time today. Suddenly when I try to build a distribution I get an error message File C:/Program Files/Revolution 2.1/revolution.exe is not a valid Windows engine AFAIK this is the very engine that's running the Distribution Builder. The only change I've made is to add a Document icon, which in fact is the same icon I'm using for the standalone itself (just for now). When I change the Document icon spec back to 'None', I can build the standalone. I've tried restarting the machine but that doesn't help. Can anyone suggest why this is happening? --- Graham Samuel / The Living Fossil Co. / UK France ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Can't build Standalone with document icon
Hi Graham, I'm developing on a Windows XP system and I've been coding, saving, using the IDE and building distributions for some time today. Suddenly when I try to build a distribution I get an error message File C:/Program Files/Revolution 2.1/revolution.exe is not a valid Windows engine AFAIK this is the very engine that's running the Distribution Builder. The only change I've made is to add a Document icon, which in fact is the same icon I'm using for the standalone itself (just for now). When I change the Document icon spec back to 'None', I can build the standalone. I've tried restarting the machine but that doesn't help. Can anyone suggest why this is happening? --- Graham Samuel / The Living Fossil Co. / UK France as far as i remember this is a bug and already reported. Unfortunately bugzilla is still down, so we cannot check it yet... Have a nice weenkend :-) Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Newbie questions
I am a former HyperCard, SuperCard and OMO user who has just purchased Revolution. Good to see many familiar names on this list. I am trying to port some OMO stacks to Revolution by pasting the scripts into objects in Rev. I am running into a very basic problem: None of my scripts execute. For example, I have this script in card 2 on closecard global name, age, education, occupation, gender, handedness, marital put fld name into name put fld age into age put fld education into education put fld occupation into occupation put button gender into gender put button handedness into handedness put button marital into marital put empty into fld name put empty into fld age put empty into fld education put empty into fld occupation end closecard And this script in card 3: on opencard global name, age, education, gender, handedness put name into fld name put age into fld age put education into fld education put gender into fld gender put handedness into fld handedness end opencard Nothing happens when I go to card 3. I get this error message, which makes no sense to me. Am I making a mistake is syntax? compiling at 5:48:17 PM Typeglobal: not a valid variable name ObjectDemographics Lineglobal name, age, education, occupation, gender, handedness, marital Hintname Thanks in advance. Paul Malloy ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Newbie questions
Paul Malloy wrote: I am a former HyperCard, SuperCard and OMO user who has just purchased Revolution. Good to see many familiar names on this list. I am trying to port some OMO stacks to Revolution by pasting the scripts into objects in Rev. I am running into a very basic problem: None of my scripts execute. For example, I have this script in card 2 on closecard global name, age, education, occupation, gender, handedness, marital put fld name into name put fld age into age put fld education into education put fld occupation into occupation put button gender into gender put button handedness into handedness put button marital into marital put empty into fld name put empty into fld age put empty into fld education put empty into fld occupation end closecard And this script in card 3: on opencard global name, age, education, gender, handedness put name into fld name put age into fld age put education into fld education put gender into fld gender put handedness into fld handedness end opencard Nothing happens when I go to card 3. I get this error message, which makes no sense to me. Am I making a mistake is syntax? compiling at 5:48:17 PM Typeglobal: not a valid variable name ObjectDemographics Lineglobal name, age, education, occupation, gender, handedness, marital Hintname name is a reserved keyword, and as such cannot be mirrored as a global var name. I'm surprised that worked in other xTalks. Small price to pay for orders of magnitude greater speed... -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Developer of WebMerge: Publish any database on any Web site ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com Tel: 323-225-3717 AIM: FourthWorldInc ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: must restart in OS X after install ?? - re: Monks
On Saturday, October 18, 2003, at 04:00 pm, James Richards wrote: on 17 Oct 2003 12:49:24 -0700 Brian Thomas wrote: ** Do you think it is outrageous to ask OSX users to restart their computers after an install:? *** Restarting after installation is quite a common request for professional software on earlier Mac OSs, I don't why it should be any surprise on OS X. Regards James It is a surprise, because hardly any software on OS X forces a restart. System updates including QT) and some badly written Epson drivers are about it, even Photoshop or Macromedia Studio don't force restarts. If you are used to having a system that hasn't been booted for a month then a software installation that forces a restart just irritates. Ian Wood Panoramic photography, from web to billboard, sunrise to moonrise http://www.azurevision.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Mailing lists back up
Same here.. only it's because my department's mailserver has been down -- along with the entire Sun box because *someone* forgot to renew our Sun maintenance agreement and a poorly-designed controller apparently blew. Now we're going to spend perhaps 3 or 4 times fixing the machine that it would have cost just to have maintained our maintenance contract... :( Judy On Thu, 16 Oct 2003, Ken Norris wrote: Thanks, A bunch of us had no idea what was happening. Whew!! Ken N. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
ANN: Revolution HTTPd Project
Hi Folks, I am very very very very pleased to announce for immediate release the Revolution HTTPd Project. It's a simple httpd server based on Metacard HTTPd stack. It can serve files from a local folder and it can do lot's of stunts with substacks Yes thats dynamic content for you. I borrowed (or invented I don't know) a concept of transportation, meaning when a user call a file from the server, it checks if theres a substack with the same name, if it does have one, then it checks what was the desired output format (this time it's XML or HTML) then it pipes the result from the stack to the user. It's very cool and you must see to understand. I created a webpage for this project its located at http://www.soapdog.org/rev/revhttpd.html there you can get all your infos and the first release. It's all public domain with source. The current substacks (they act like CGI apps) are: Quotes - It's a quote of the day app, when requested as Quotes.html it will render a nice html, if requested as Quotes.xml it will render a simple to parse xml. Status - It shows some status info like open sockets and open stacks, when asked as Status.html it renders a nice HTML, the XML option will redirect you to a nice error page telling that this substack does not like XML. It's also possible to make HTTPd stack present itself by calling http://localhost:8080/httpd.html, it will echo the http request, this is usefull for debuging. It's a very fun project, take your time to explore the site, there I explain how it's all done, also feel free to send me mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll leave the HTTPd stack running at home so if anyone want to try it (don't know if my ISP firewall will allow the connection) can point their browsers to http://home.soapdog.org:8080/ The direct download link is http://www.soapdog.org/rev/httpd.zip PS: I've got a paypal account under [EMAIL PROTECTED] if anyone want to support this project. Cheers and serve the developer. Andre Alves Garzia 2003 BRAZIL http://www.soapdog.org ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Search and Replace
Ken, As usual, you always come to the aid of others. Thanks! This seems to work great! -Dan Here's a replacement function - it's a little messy (because I have to wrap 'whatText' in spaces at the beginning and strip them at the end), but it works: ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Search and Replace
Glad I could help... :-) Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Friedman Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 11:52 PM To: RunRev Mail List Subject: RE: Search and Replace Ken, As usual, you always come to the aid of others. Thanks! This seems to work great! -Dan Here's a replacement function - it's a little messy (because I have to wrap 'whatText' in spaces at the beginning and strip them at the end), but it works: ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use- revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: POST variables to CGI via URL with URLencoded string fails??
On Friday, October 17, 2003, at 09:40 PM, Dave Cragg wrote: OK, that works great... can we depend on the order of the environment variables? i.e This works: put urlDecode (value(item 3 of the globals)) into tRemit and delivers the $QUERY_STRING value.. but if the order changed the cgi would break (depends on $QUERY_STRING being always item three of the globals) I don't understand why the order is important. Why can't you do this? put urlDecode($QUERY_STRING) into tRemit Well, if you can, great... right, you are, order is not important... sheer ignorance on my part about the fundamentals of http processing. I tend to run on examples and assumed that one needed to get all the globals into a variable before one could address any particular one of them. I didn't know about the $ sign... (I see the documentation now in the transcript dictionary...) mmm, one of these days I should just sit down and read the entire printed manual (I did that years ago for Supercard's 1000 page manual, but haven't for Rev...) Thanks Dave, for being there! Sivakatirswami Who you are makes a difference. ;-) Cheers Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
