RE: IDE inspectors should reveal all properties
Funny I never received Dave's message in the list! Nonetheless he has one point. Another is that many dont want to try new tools - so many of them, so many of us! I had hopes to make this a reference tool for all! I will try nonetheless and hope to make you all happier in your IDE! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Wilhelm Sanke Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 23:58 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: IDE inspectors should reveal all properties On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 Dave Cragg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One reason for lack of feedback on Xavier's additions to the MC development environment may have been a perceived lack of need by many MC users. Not that we don't see shortcomings in the IDE, but I imagine each user has his/her own ideas for what would constitute an improvement. And as modifying the environment or making additions is relatively easy, many have probably made their own improvements. In my own case, many of these changes are made ad hoc. Typically, I'll make a utility stack for each project I work on which lets me poke and pry to my heart's content. These utlities won't win prizes in the interface stakes, but they get the job done. It's this kind of flexibility that endeared me to Metacard. (And probably turned others off.) On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 MisterX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In brief, you get a hierarchical view of all your controls, with editors for content, scripts, all the props and a cool custom props browser. Any property has it's own menu with all the possible values (color, bool, etc...) story and screenshots on my site (compared to MC's old control browser) Note the story is one year old. Imagine if I had had more feedback where these features could take you today! Like Dave said, a few of us have developed their own sort of browsers adapted to their specific needs, which we also have advertized here and there - among them Geoff Canyon, Richard Gaskin, Klaus Major, myself, and of course the ominous MisterX - so this may explain part of the lack of feedback to MisterX. My own Rev and MC browsers, two years old and available for free, have also elicited a limited number of responses - maybe somewhat less than with MisterX's tools ( but I do not keep track how many people download from my ftp site). My browsers include a very quick and elaborate script search feature, which I use quite often if I analyze stacks or have to adapt stacks that are somewhat complicated in their structure. The browsers have been mostly unchanged since two years. An addition that will be available shortly is a special groups' card where even unplaced backgrounds will be listed and can then be edited. There were requests for such a feature on the runrev lists. Regards, Wilhelm Sanke ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Serendipity Library Update 20030218
Hi, I have tried to download the Serendipity Library Update but simply am unable to find it. Does it still exist? James _ James Hale mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] IT Manager, ArtsIT, Faculty of Arts Tel: (834)48196 http://www.arts.unimelb.edu.au/~jhale _ ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: cgi create card script question
Thanks to all !! The answer (for closure) is that the stack that the cgi script attempts to updated must have APACHE as both owner and group. Then it works like a charm. I love that warm feeling when you hit enter and the code executes for the first time : ) Peter ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Networking Mac/PC Windows XP
On 26 Nov 2003, at 20:40, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Message: 7 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:58:18 -0800 From: Stephen Quinn Barncard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Networking Mac/PC Windows XP To: How to use Revolution [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed Don't waste your time trying to make Rev do this -- shareware to the rescue! Get IPNETROUTER for your Mac. It will allow it to be a router for up to 256 machines on your home network. http://www.sustworks.com/site/prod_ipr_overview.html I used an old Mac SE30 as a router for years on a DSL line and it worked great. The 68k version is $50; the OSX version is about $90. If it is only to share fast connections on Mac OS X over one ethernetcard, you can use IPNetShareX from sustainable softworks, which is free (in contrast to IPNetShareXPro) For that much money, one also might consider a hardware router which is a better solution for me - I like the Linksys models, with built in hub and web-based setup. sqb Greetings, WA ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
sorting this into a database
Hi All. I'm new here and to programming and about to buy runtime revolution. I wish to create a bibliography database that can have input from files like this.. Where %a = author field etc etc see below. Also the input would be from different apps and therefore there would have to be a choice of input script. Can runrev do this?? Cheers Bob example fields %0 Journal Article %A Abbi, S. %A Ueda, H. %A Christopher, R. %A Guan, J. L. %D 2000 %T Inhibition of cell cycle progression, cell spreading and migration by FIP200, a protein inhibitor for FAK %J Mol. Biol. Cell %V 11 %P 2067 %! Inhibition of cell cycle progression, cell spreading and migration by FIP200, a protein inhibitor for FAK %Z Molecular Biology of the Cell %L Isi:000165525902071 %U file://localhost/Oslin/Thesis master/pdf's/ %0 Journal Article %A Abercrombie, M %A Heaysman, JEM %A Karthauser, HM %D 1957 %T Social behaviour of Cells in Tissue Culture %J Exprimental Cell Redserch %V 13 %P 276-291 %! Social behaviour of Cells in Tissue Culture %U file://localhost/Oslin/Thesis master/pdf's/ ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New Here...
Greetings Brian and Xavier, Thanks for the quick responses. Yes, I'm dinking around with the tutorial and getting the impression that Revolution is not the relational database thing I was searching for on TUCOWS, where I found it. It's an advanced HyperCard system. I did some things with HyperCard in the 80s. But not very much. Building a relational database in Revolution could be a bit of a bother. However, Brian's suggestion of using an FMP Solution behind the Revolution GUI seems interesting as FMP's limited graphics capabilities present a problem to a project I'm grappling with. I need something on which I can depict a map, move/show/hide icons, display textual information based on information held in a relational database environment. It would be best if it was an integrated system instead of a hybrid, but it may have to be the latter. Has anyone built a relational database management system to work with Revolution? One they'd be willing to sell? Well... ...enough of this for now. I have to go prepare a bird for the feast. Regards, Chuck ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New Here...
On 27/11/2003 15:11:04 use-revolution-bounces wrote: Greetings Brian and Xavier, Thanks for the quick responses. always a pleasure! Yes, I'm dinking around with the tutorial and getting the impression that Revolution is not the relational database thing I was searching for on TUCOWS, where I found it. It's an advanced HyperCard system. I did some things with HyperCard in the 80s. But not very much. Relational is a relative word! ;)) But it is relational - it can certainly be multiuser too. Depends on how you implement it! Building a relational database in Revolution could be a bit of a bother. However, Brian's suggestion of using an FMP Solution behind the Revolution GUI seems interesting as FMP's limited graphics capabilities present a problem to a project I'm grappling with. I need something on which I can depict a map, move/show/hide icons, display textual information based on information held in a relational database environment. It would be best if it was an integrated system instead of a hybrid, but it may have to be the latter. Has anyone built a relational database management system to work with Revolution? One they'd be willing to sell? I have one but it is still completely based in HC with lots of externals and which was 100 times faster than FMP at the time - and only 7 times more complex. But importation took 2 days for 800,000 records (including indexing mind you) on an old PPC 8500. It sure would take less time today since RR is much faster. The way to do it is to flatten out the relational records into a flat db or include the ids to the linked records (like a simple/double-linked list)... You have one big stack with the indexes and another stack with the the data. This solves most of the relational search problems you would have to implement. Takes time to compile the index and links but after that it's just basic navigation... If your data is fixed, it's easy. There are also external commands for relational DBs like Jovis and I forgot which other one. They simplify the task but make your stack more complicated. Well... ...enough of this for now. I have to go prepare a bird for the feast. Happy turkey Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New Here...
Chuck Pelto wrote: I'm looking for information to help me consider Revolution as an option for developing more sophisticated databases. I've just downloaded and unlocked the 30-day example version. I'm very familiar with FileMaker Pro. I'm somewhat familiar with Access. I've worked a lot with FileMaker, and my WebMerge product keeps me using Access now and then for testing. Welcome aboard. Is there anything someone can point me to that provides a compare and contrast analysis of Revolution to FMP? Most of the differences can be summed up as the trade-off between simplicity and flexbility. FileMaker does what it does very well, but to be honest with you after working with Rev my GUI requirements have been raised so high that FileMaker never survives the first round of tools evaluation for most new projects. I have one small FileMaker job lined up and maintain another, and everything else here for the last few years has been built with Rev. If you do a lot of scripting, the first thing to get acclimated to is that you're finally developing true event-driven apps. FileMaker's scripting pretty much has only two events to trigger scripts: selecting a menu and clicking a button. Revolution has the rich event suite from HyperCard and a good many more to support its expanded object model. The worst thing about it is you have to type. The best thing about it is you get to type. Revolution's scripting language, Transcript, lets you build apps as flexibly as 4D but with more readable syntax and in many cases fewer lines of code. Keep in mind that the Revolution engine is not a DBMS per se, but more of a general-purpose application framework, rather like a VM. While you can store small flat data sets in property arrays easily in native Transcript (I've done this for a few thousand records with good speed), if you need truly relational DBMS capabilities Rev gives you multiple options. All three packages (Express, Studio, and Enterprise) include interfaces for MySQL, PostgreSQL, Valentina, and ODBC. Enterprise gives you access to Oracle as well. Each has its strengths and weaknesses, so if you don't have a favorite at the start you'll want to learn a little about each to determine which one is best for the job at hand. You could even use FileMaker as your DBMS with Rev as the front-end via ODBC. And of course, when you're done and you want to share your app with others, with FileMaper you'll need to either make sure the other user has a FileMaker license or buy the $500 Developer Edition to build standalone apps. The $149 version of Rev lets you build standalones for one platform, and the other Rev packages let you develop and deploy on nearly all modern desktop operating systems. Additionally, I've a few questions: [1] Are there plans to enhance Revolution's AppleEvent awareness? One of the features I've benefited from with FMP is its robust AppleScripting capability. It has been a life-saver via inter-application activities. Automation of graphics generation helped us reduce our head-count by 60% and product errors by 98% in the first year of implementation. Currently I see few calls available in Revolution's AppleScript Dictionary. On the plus side for FileMaker, it does have a robust AppleScriptable object model. But with only slightly different syntax you can often get the same or greater flexibility with Rev's evaluate and do script AppleScript commands. And to the degree that shift migrates code from the AppleScript interpreter to Rev's you should see quite a performance boost. For example, you mentioned automation of graphics generation: depending what that generation is doing you can probably do at least some of that right in Rev -- resizing, cropping, rotating, and more, with a full compliment of vector primitives like rectangles, ovals, polygons, lines and text fields. Most inter-app integration is done with do script anyway, triggering FileMaker scripts, Photoshop actions, etc. The one AppleScript limitation Rev has that can be problematic in some cases is that it currently only directly sends and recieves text data. AppleScript supports binary data types like lists, but these must be converted to text before Rev can work with them. Fortunately the cases where you're exchanging non-text data with other apps are usually few, and if you run into one I'll bet one of the AppleScript gurus here could help you with a workaround. [2] If I do development work with the 30-day trial version, can my work accomplished in that be opened with the live version? I trust so. But just want to be certain. It would be a cruel tease otherwise. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Developer of WebMerge: Publish any database on any Web site ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com Tel: 323-225-3717 AIM: FourthWorldInc
Re: Serendipity Library Update 20030218
I have tried to download the Serendipity Library Update but simply am unable to find it. Does it still exist? Hello James, If you tried oenolog.com, my website has moved to oenolog.net: http://www.oenolog.net/ftp/serendipity_downloader.htm. Please note the version of Serendipity Library at this URL contains the old, single-user version of Serendipity Database--Binary (SDB). A Client/Server version of SDB is currently available only through the revolution_ipc group, http://groups.yahoo.com/group/revolution_ipc. I will be releasing the first version of SDB with a working Data Dictionary to the group within a few days. If it seems solid enough and Jan is OK with releasing libIPC to the Revolution community at large, it will be available to all within two weeks. -- Rob Cozens CCW, Serendipity Software Company http://www.oenolog.net/who.htm And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three; Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee. from The Triple Foole by John Donne (1572-1631) ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New Here...
Has anyone built a relational database management system to work with Revolution? One they'd be willing to sell? Hi Chuck, If you can live with a hierarchical db instead of a relational one, check out SDB. If you don't need Q, SDB will do. It's open source AND free. -- Rob Cozens CCW, Serendipity Software Company http://www.oenolog.net/who.htm And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three; Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee. from The Triple Foole by John Donne (1572-1631) ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: : New Here...
Message: 4 Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 06:19:59 -0700 From: Chuck Pelto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: New Here... To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Greetings, I'm looking for information to help me consider Revolution as an option for developing more sophisticated databases. I've just downloaded and unlocked the 30-day example version. I'm very familiar with FileMaker Pro. I'm somewhat familiar with Access. Is there anything someone can point me to that provides a compare and contrast analysis of Revolution to FMP? Chuck, Besides all the good advice you have received from others, I can tell you of one very special database use I have for Run Rev. I am in the midst of an election campaign. The database is 90,000 records (lines) each with 75 fields (items). But the data as it comes to us from the county needs lots of massaging: Convert fields to title case, change phone numbers like 5303458765 to 530-345-8765 so that it can be dialed by someone with ADD, picking out households with multiple residents, some with the same last name and some not, and working the data to get single more personalized mailer to the related household members and a separate mailer to unrelated individuals at the same address (not the usual impersonal mailer sent to all residents at the same address). etc. I was astonished to discover that the entire file can be accommodated in a single field (or imported from disk to a variable.) within Run Rev. Some of the scripting can be done in FMP but it is s much easier to do it all in Run Rev (and much faster, both in scripting and run time) and then exporting a file to be imported into FMP. From that point on, FMP is the application of choice. But this is only one of the very many things I have found to do with this extraordinary tool. Run Rev is a tool box. FMP is a screwdriver. Jim ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: : New Here...
Run Rev is a tool box. FMP is a screwdriver Well put, Jim. -- Rob Cozens CCW, Serendipity Software Company http://www.oenolog.net/who.htm And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three; Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee. from The Triple Foole by John Donne (1572-1631) ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: : New Here...
Greetings All, Taking a break from bird prep activities to check the mail. Lots of interesting advice and commentary. Some replies to comments: I have FMP Developer. Doing a hybrid would be no problem on that account. The interesting part, which I have not thought too deeply on would be networking the 'solution' from FMP's perspective. Last I looked they didn't like stand-alones to be networkable. [Note: I've abused them over this and other such failings on FMI's part.] I might have to knuckle-down and do the database thing inside of Rev in order to overcome that issue. Follow-on questions, after perusing the tutorial: [1] Can I declare an object to be a button? And run scripts when it is clicked on? [2] The Enterprise version is ODBC-aware? Then I should be able to find a way to hook into it via AppleScripting for changing data. However, command/control and inter-operability with other apps would still be something of an issue. [3] How does Rev deal with the passage of time and Idle() activities? Can it be set to check for a change in status? Or does it require an outside agent to activate a script? Example: Every 60 seconds do myCheck(). Or does something have to nudge it, as an external applescript would do by calling a ScriptMaker script inside of an FMP datafile? Back to the bird. Thanks, Chuck ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: : New Here...
Chuck, [1] Can I declare an object to be a button? And run scripts when it is clicked on? A button, a locked field, an image, a graphic, and a window (the card itself) can all initiate respond to mouse events. [2] The Enterprise version is ODBC-aware? Then I should be able to find a way to hook into it via AppleScripting for changing data. However, command/control and inter-operability with other apps would still be something of an issue. It's been discussed on the list; but I have not followed the thread. [3] How does Rev deal with the passage of time and Idle() activities? Can it be set to check for a change in status? Or does it require an outside agent to activate a script? Example: Every 60 seconds do myCheck(). Or does something have to nudge it, as an external applescript would do by calling a ScriptMaker script inside of an FMP datafile? Revolution supports idle messages; but the use of on idle handlers is discouraged...in favor of send message [to control] in time [seconds|ticks|milliseconds]. -- Rob Cozens CCW, Serendipity Software Company http://www.oenolog.net/who.htm And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three; Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee. from The Triple Foole by John Donne (1572-1631) ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Linux Engine: Problems on Red Hat server with CGI
Thanks for everyone's helpful responses. But our linux man couldn't make a go of it... he writes: We are trying to install the MC-Rev interpreter on RH 9 at our ISP and believe that 4 needed files missing. Our Linux version is: Linux hinduismtoday.apolloservers.com 2.4.1-008stab043.15.swsoft-smp #1 SMP Thu Mar 20 16:47:30 MSK 2003 i686 unknown At least, we think there are 4 files missing (the 4 mentioned in the first section of the ldd command shown below as not found). We tried linking to empty files instead, that didn't work. The loader said the files were too short. We tried alternate versions of these same files from other RH servers, that didn't work because, apparently, exactly the right versions of CXXABI_1.2 and GLIBCP_3.2 are required. Apparently we need exactly the files required by MC-Rev and not alternative versions. We heard that MC-Rev engine didn't really use these shared library files and any old version or even empty files would work but that does not appear to solve the problem for us, perhaps we need more instructions? If someone can (off list) point me to where they can be found, or ftp them to us, or?? Many thanks in advance. # ldd -v /usr/local/bin/mc libXext.so.6 = not found libX11.so.6 = not found libstdc++.so.5 = not found libm.so.6 = /lib/libm.so.6 (0x4001c000) libgcc_s.so.1 = not found libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x4003f000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000) Version information: /usr/local/bin/mc: libgcc_s.so.1 (GCC_3.0) = not found libstdc++.so.5 (CXXABI_1.2) = not found libstdc++.so.5 (GLIBCPP_3.2) = not found libm.so.6 (GLIBC_2.0) = /lib/libm.so.6 libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.2) = /lib/libc.so.6 libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.1.3) = /lib/libc.so.6 libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.1) = /lib/libc.so.6 libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.0) = /lib/libc.so.6 /lib/libm.so.6: libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.1.3) = /lib/libc.so.6 libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.0) = /lib/libc.so.6 /lib/libc.so.6: ld-linux.so.2 (GLIBC_2.1.1) = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 ld-linux.so.2 (GLIBC_2.2.3) = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 ld-linux.so.2 (GLIBC_2.1) = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 ld-linux.so.2 (GLIBC_2.2) = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 ld-linux.so.2 (GLIBC_2.0) = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 Sannyasin Sivakatirswami Himalayan Academy Publications at Kauai's Hindu Monastery [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.HimalayanAcademy.com, www.HinduismToday.com www.Gurudeva.org www.Hindu.org On Nov 19, 2003, at 5:13 PM, Ken Ray wrote: Take a look at my foray into Linux CGIs for the two files that *I* had to install: http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/revolution.htm?_cgi001 The files were: libXext.so.6 and libX11.so.6. Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J. Landman Gay Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 8:57 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Linux Engine: Problems on Red Hat server with CGI On 11/19/03 8:21 PM, Sannyasin Sivakatirswami wrote: # Error log says: ## [Wed Nov 19 20:04:23 2003] [error] [client 64.75.166.210] Premature end of script headers: /home/htstore/store.hinduismtoday.com/cgi-bin/subscribe.cgi /home/htstore/store.hinduismtoday.com/cgi-bin/Linux: error while loading shared libraries: libXext.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Anyone know what that means? Shared libraries: libXext.so.6 ?? I had the same problem when I first started using cgis. It turns out that not all Unix installations install the full set of library files. There are two in particular that Rev looks for which are often not installed, and this is one of them. I can't remember the name of the other, but if you get another similar error it will probably include the second file name. You can either update the Linux installation or just put in an empty dummy file with the right name. Rev doesn't really read or use the file, it just has to be in there. I know virtually nothing about Linux installations, so I can't tell you where the file is supposed to go. My ISP installed it for me. All I know is that you only need an empty text file with the right name. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use- revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux Engine: Problems on Red Hat server with CGI
On Nov 27, 2003, at 11:58 AM, Sannyasin Sivakatirswami wrote: Thanks for everyone's helpful responses. But our linux man couldn't make a go of it... he writes: You simply need to find a Rev or MC engine that does not dynamically link with all of those X libraries. Tuviah said he was working on one. But that doesn't help you now. I would look for old Rev and MC engines and see if they do not have this problem too. I suspect it was not always this way because obviously it makes it impossible for a lot of people to deploy CGIs with all of these library dependencies. Alex Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Mindlube Software | http://mindlube.com what a waste of thumbs that are opposable to make machines that are disposable -Ani DiFranco ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
(OT) Happy Thanksgiving to U.S. members
Howdy, Just a note, especially to U.S. list members who are celebrating Thanksgiving today, to mention that we have much to be thankful for right here on this list. The unselfish help, humor, and exchange of ideas enhances everyone's ability to work with RR, and the effects reach far beyond here. May God bless everyone, and enjoy the festivities of the day. Ken N. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: (OT) Happy Thanksgiving to U.S. members
Ken, and Everyone on the list, Thank you and have a Happy Thanksgiving yourself. P.S. get off the computer and spend some time with the family :-) P.S. I know I'm on the computer but I'm getting off now... Enjoy, Tom On Nov 27, 2003, at 3:02 PM, Ken Norris wrote: Howdy, Just a note, especially to U.S. list members who are celebrating Thanksgiving today, to mention that we have much to be thankful for right here on this list. The unselfish help, humor, and exchange of ideas enhances everyone's ability to work with RR, and the effects reach far beyond here. May God bless everyone, and enjoy the festivities of the day. Ken N. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Macintosh PowerBook G-4 OSX 10.3.1, OS 9.2.2, 1.25 GHz, 512MB RAM, Rev 2.1.2 Advanced Media Group Thomas J McGrath III 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 220 Drake Road, Bethel Park, PA 15102 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[ANN] Revolution QuickTime External 0.2.5
I have uploaded a new version of my QuickTime External (0.2.5) for Revolution which enables you to set a movie or track QTList from within Revolution. This feature allows you to pass dynamically created xml data to a wired QT movie that is being played in Revolution. The external, examples and documentation can be downloaded at: http://www.mangomultimedia.com/examples/revolution/index.html -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Multimedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Seminar
Dear Listee, I'm delighted to tell you that the first ever Revolution Seminar will be held in San Francisco, in association with MacWorld. Here's what we have planned: A 2 day seminar on the 9th and 10th of January. A positive Revfest of goodies including sessions by Kevin Miller, Richard Gaskin, Dan Shafer, Geoff Canyon and other illustrious Revolutionaries. Sessions to cover such hot topics as database implementation, table objects and the report generator, using and making plugins, net applications, the state of the Revolution and a session where you have your say on where you'd like us to go next. Hands on experience with the Revolution team. Freebies, prizes and special offers on Revolution licenses and Dan Shafer's book. Meet the author and get your copy of Software at the Speed of Thought autographed! Lunch and coffee breaks in a beautiful hotel included. The venue for this will be the luxurious Argent Hotel, just a step away from the Moscone center and a great place to stay for your trip. All this for $250 for both days, or $150 for one day only. Book your place now, space is limited so first come first served... Price goes up on 15th December. Buy now from our online store: http://secure.runrev.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGYStore_Code=RROS; Category_Code=SMR I look forward to seeing you there! Warm regards Heather -- Heather Williams ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution - User-Centric Development Tools Tel +44 (0) 131 7184333 Fax +44 (0) 845 4588487 ~~~ Check our web site for new Revolution editions special offers ~~~ ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Linux Engine: Problems on Red Hat server with CGI
The oldest thing we can find is linux.tar at the mc ftp site dated april of this year. We'll try it...but from Scott's installation notes for the Solaris version, libraries are expected, I suspect it will be the same for the Linux engine unless Scott deployed a version without the wrapper that calls for the libraries. Otherwise we are out of luck until Tuviah finishes... thanks On Nov 27, 2003, at 9:14 AM, Alex Rice wrote: On Nov 27, 2003, at 11:58 AM, Sannyasin Sivakatirswami wrote: Thanks for everyone's helpful responses. But our linux man couldn't make a go of it... he writes: You simply need to find a Rev or MC engine that does not dynamically link with all of those X libraries. Tuviah said he was working on one. But that doesn't help you now. I would look for old Rev and MC engines and see if they do not have this problem too. I suspect it was not always this way because obviously it makes it impossible for a lot of people to deploy CGIs with all of these library dependencies. Alex Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Mindlube Software | http://mindlube.com what a waste of thumbs that are opposable to make machines that are disposable -Ani DiFranco ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Your software
Hi everyone, We're currently helping some people promote products which were built with Revolution. If you have a product (no matter how big or small) it may be or whether its commercial or freeware please get in touch!! Also to help promote your product its usually a good idea to post it to: www.versiontracker.com www.macupdate.com www.apple.com (the Mac OS X software downloads page has a submit your software link) The above download sites can make a huge difference in the number of people who try your software. Anyway, please get in touch if you are developing any software and I will help you promote it as much as possible both online and to magazines worldwide. Best, Rod Dr Rod McCall www.runrev.com Runtime Revolution Ltd 91 Hanover Street, Edinburgh, EH2 1DJ t: +44 (0)131 718 4333 f: +44 (0) 131 718 4334 Runtime Revolution - User-Centric Development Tools All incoming emails are subject to virus and spam checking, this may delay receipt and any response. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Database - Update from Data Entry/Query form
My update statement is now fully functional. My sincere thanks for the assistance provided. Happy Thanksgiving, Melvin Cox - Jan Schenkel janschenkel at yahoo.com Wed Nov 26 04:13:57 EST 2003 --- Brian Maher plsntbreez at mac.com wrote: Hi Melvin, You may want to send the entire trace log to the RunRev folks for analysis along with your sample stack. There is definitely a problem. Brian Well, I looked over his test stack ; is that close enough ? :-) I guess the confusion is mainly my fault, as I was the one to point out revExecuteSQL as a way of executing queries. (*) - The revExecuteSQL command is explained in the Transcript Dictionary ; its first parameter is a databaseID (aka connectionID). - The revExecuteWithQuery command on the other hand, is not documented ; its first parameter is the name of a query whose connection you need. So in Melvin's stack, the script should have called either -- put revConnectionOfQuery(PeopleUpdate) \ into tConnectionID revExecuteSQL tConnectionID, tSQLQuery -- or -- revExecuteWithQuery PeopleUpdate, tSQLQuery -- Now, apart from this confusion, there are a few things I'd like to mention. - The undocumented database calls can be found by reviewing the frontscript named revDatabase. - Open the message box - Click on the 6th button in its toolbar - This brings you to the list of Front Scripts - Doubleclick the line revDatabase MAKE SURE YOU DON'T SAVE ANY ACCIDENTAL CHANGES ! - Make sure the query you're referring to, actually exists ; in Melvin's test stack, there was no query PeopleUpdate defined using the Database Query Builder. - When you're using these undocumented database calls, always put quotes around the name of queries, so instead of : revRefreshQuery PeopleUpdate you should script : revRefreshQuery PeopleUpdate - Oh, and always make sure to check 'the result' after calling a command. In this case, it would have happily informed you : revdberr, invalid connection id and maybe then my brains would have kicked in :) So in short, my apologies for leading you astray ; I hope that the above helps you out and may prevent future errors. Best regards, Jan Schenkel. (*) That's why you pay Rev for support incidents ; on this free list, sometimes you may get the wrong answer ; mistakes happen ; for penitention, I'll go and make that new version of my report test stack now... = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) _ Groove on the latest from the hot new rock groups! Get downloads, videos, and more here. http://special.msn.com/entertainment/wiredformusic.armx ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: sorting this into a database
Hi Bob, I did a similar thing many years ago in HyperCard so I know it can be done ( done much easier in Revolution). Here are a few ideas: 1. As a starting point, instead of using an external database, I would recommend a data stack with one card per record. Set up the fields to hold each data field, group them and set the group's background behavior to true. That way the grouped objects will appear on every new card. 2. You can then have a separate stack (probably the main stack) that handles the imports and allows searching and displaying selected records. Check out the mark command for a good way to gather a collection of data cards for printing or display. 3. You will need a different import routine for each source. I too was importing from various scientific journals and although they all had pretty much the same types of data, the fields were arranged and formatted differently. Some used length e.g. the first 50 characters some the title, then 51 - 100 = author etc. Once you have that all working, if you have more than a couple of thousand records it may become too slow. In that case, you could then consider migrating it to an external database like Valentina or MySQL, but when you are only learning Revolution, I would keep things simple at first. And don't forget to ask if you get stuck :-) Cheers, Sarah [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.troz.net/Rev/ On 27 Nov 2003, at 9:23 pm, Dr. Bob Hartley wrote: Hi All. I'm new here and to programming and about to buy runtime revolution. I wish to create a bibliography database that can have input from files like this.. Where %a = author field etc etc see below. Also the input would be from different apps and therefore there would have to be a choice of input script. Can runrev do this?? Cheers Bob example fields %0 Journal Article %A Abbi, S. %A Ueda, H. %A Christopher, R. %A Guan, J. L. %D 2000 %T Inhibition of cell cycle progression, cell spreading and migration by FIP200, a protein inhibitor for FAK %J Mol. Biol. Cell %V 11 %P 2067 %! Inhibition of cell cycle progression, cell spreading and migration by FIP200, a protein inhibitor for FAK %Z Molecular Biology of the Cell %L Isi:000165525902071 %U file://localhost/Oslin/Thesis master/pdf's/ %0 Journal Article %A Abercrombie, M %A Heaysman, JEM %A Karthauser, HM %D 1957 %T Social behaviour of Cells in Tissue Culture %J Exprimental Cell Redserch %V 13 %P 276-291 %! Social behaviour of Cells in Tissue Culture %U file://localhost/Oslin/Thesis master/pdf's/ ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Imagesource property
Hi Dave, I do it by building the complete path using the path of the main stack. Supposing you have your application or stack in it's own folder and in that folder, you have your Gifs1B folder containing the images. Have a function in your mainStack that gives you the full path to your images folder as follows: function getImageFolder put the fileName of this stack into tName set the itemDel to / put Gifs1B into last item of tName return tName / end getImageFolder Now when you want to set the imageSource, do something like: put getImageFolder() 60034gQ.gif into itemgif set the imagesource of char imageplace of fld test to itemgif I have only done this for images rather than characters in a field, but I am sure it will work. Cheers, Sarah [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.troz.net/Rev/ On 27 Nov 2003, at 4:32 pm, David Frank wrote: I have several gif images that I want to appear in appropriate places in a field. The imagesource property works perfectly if the gif image file is in the same folder as the Revolution application or in the same folder with the standalone: put 60034gQ.gif into itemgif set the imagesource of char imageplace of fld test to itemgif However, putting those same gif images into their own folder (called Gifs1B), residing in the Rev. application or standalone folder, with the following script, does not work: put Gifs1B/60034gQ.gif into itemgif set the imagesource of char imageplace of fld test to itemgif Nor does /Gifs1B/60034gQ.gif, nor does including the whole path name to the file. How can I get imagesource to pull the gifs out of their own folder? Thanks, Dave -- ~~~ ~ David L. Frank e-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Professor of Chemistry Chem Dept. (559) 278-2103 California State University, Fresno Office: (559) 278-2273 Chemistry Dept. Fax: (559) 278-4402 2555 E. San Ramon Ave M/S 70 Fresno CA 93740-8034 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Seminar
Sounds fantastic Can there be transcripts for the revolutionaries that cant get to Frisco? Paul On Thursday, November 27, 2003, at 03:19 PM, Heather Williams wrote: Dear Listee, I'm delighted to tell you that the first ever Revolution Seminar will be held in San Francisco, in association with MacWorld. Here's what we have planned: A 2 day seminar on the 9th and 10th of January. A positive Revfest of goodies including sessions by Kevin Miller, Richard Gaskin, Dan Shafer, Geoff Canyon and other illustrious Revolutionaries. Sessions to cover such hot topics as database implementation, table objects and the report generator, using and making plugins, net applications, the state of the Revolution and a session where you have your say on where you'd like us to go next. Hands on experience with the Revolution team. Freebies, prizes and special offers on Revolution licenses and Dan Shafer's book. Meet the author and get your copy of Software at the Speed of Thought autographed! Lunch and coffee breaks in a beautiful hotel included. The venue for this will be the luxurious Argent Hotel, just a step away from the Moscone center and a great place to stay for your trip. All this for $250 for both days, or $150 for one day only. Book your place now, space is limited so first come first served... Price goes up on 15th December. Buy now from our online store: http://secure.runrev.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGYStore_Code=RROS; Category_Code=SMR I look forward to seeing you there! Warm regards Heather -- Heather Williams ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution - User-Centric Development Tools Tel +44 (0) 131 7184333 Fax +44 (0) 845 4588487 ~~~ Check our web site for new Revolution editions special offers ~~~ ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
