Re: Clearing an Image object?

2004-01-07 Thread Doug Lerner
On 1/7/04 4:14 PM, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 By the by, the mouseEnter and mouseLeave messages are only sent when using
 the Browser Tool.
 
 Do you have any suggestions for being able to choose another tool from a
 custom paint palette when drawing?
 
 Right now I am just doing this:
 
 on keyUp theKey
   global curTool
   put the tool into curTool
   choose browser tool
 end keyUp
 
 which seems a bit not-so-much-a-nice-UI. :)
 
 I don't understand:  if you have a tool palette for changing tools why do
 you need to respond to the mouse position?
 
 --

Well, in my first experiment, I was doing this all on one stack - there is a
pop-up to select the tool.

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Re: Clearing an Image object?

2004-01-07 Thread Richard Gaskin
Doug Lerner wrote:

 On 1/7/04 4:14 PM, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 By the by, the mouseEnter and mouseLeave messages are only sent when using
 the Browser Tool.
 
 Do you have any suggestions for being able to choose another tool from a
 custom paint palette when drawing?
 
 Right now I am just doing this:
 
 on keyUp theKey
 global curTool
 put the tool into curTool
 choose browser tool
 end keyUp
 
 which seems a bit not-so-much-a-nice-UI. :)
 
 I don't understand:  if you have a tool palette for changing tools why do
 you need to respond to the mouse position?
 
 --
 
 Well, in my first experiment, I was doing this all on one stack - there is a
 pop-up to select the tool.

Painting is constrained is an image object already exists.  What is it
you're looking to do?

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Re: Clearing an Image object?

2004-01-07 Thread Doug Lerner
On 1/7/04 4:25 PM, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Doug Lerner wrote:
 
 On 1/7/04 4:14 PM, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 By the by, the mouseEnter and mouseLeave messages are only sent when using
 the Browser Tool.
 
 Do you have any suggestions for being able to choose another tool from a
 custom paint palette when drawing?
 
 Right now I am just doing this:
 
 on keyUp theKey
 global curTool
 put the tool into curTool
 choose browser tool
 end keyUp
 
 which seems a bit not-so-much-a-nice-UI. :)
 
 I don't understand:  if you have a tool palette for changing tools why do
 you need to respond to the mouse position?
 
 --
 
 Well, in my first experiment, I was doing this all on one stack - there is a
 pop-up to select the tool.
 
 Painting is constrained is an image object already exists.  What is it
 you're looking to do?

When I leave the image object, just below it is a pop-up button to select
the next paint tool.

If I do 

on mouseLeave
  choose browse tool
end mouseLeave

then when I leave the paint area the tool correctly turns into the browse
tool (though it shouldn't according to the docs, because supposedly the
mouseLeave message is not sent unless it already is the browse tool).

But then when I leave the pop-up the handler gets invoked again so instead
of my selected tool it turns back into the browse tool again.

So I need to maybe figure out *what* I just left, for example...

doug


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Re: Clearing an Image object?

2004-01-07 Thread Richard Gaskin
Doug Lerner wrote:

 If I do 
 
 on mouseLeave
 choose browse tool
 end mouseLeave
 
 then when I leave the paint area the tool correctly turns into the browse
 tool (though it shouldn't according to the docs, because supposedly the
 mouseLeave message is not sent unless it already is the browse tool).
 
 But then when I leave the pop-up the handler gets invoked again so instead
 of my selected tool it turns back into the browse tool again.
 
 So I need to maybe figure out *what* I just left, for example...

Is that script on the card? Can you just move the script to the mage object
itself?

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Re: Clearing an Image object?

2004-01-07 Thread Doug Lerner
On 1/7/04 5:34 PM, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Doug Lerner wrote:
 
 If I do
 
 on mouseLeave
 choose browse tool
 end mouseLeave
 
 then when I leave the paint area the tool correctly turns into the browse
 tool (though it shouldn't according to the docs, because supposedly the
 mouseLeave message is not sent unless it already is the browse tool).
 
 But then when I leave the pop-up the handler gets invoked again so instead
 of my selected tool it turns back into the browse tool again.
 
 So I need to maybe figure out *what* I just left, for example...
 
 Is that script on the card? Can you just move the script to the mage object
 itself?

That script was on the stack. I'll try moving it to the image itself. I
thought that is where it was, but it wasn't working because the message is
sent to the card, which is higher up in the hierarchy - but I'll try it
again...

doug

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Re: Clearing an Image object?

2004-01-07 Thread Doug Lerner
On 1/7/04 5:34 PM, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Doug Lerner wrote:
 
 If I do
 
 on mouseLeave
 choose browse tool
 end mouseLeave
 
 then when I leave the paint area the tool correctly turns into the browse
 tool (though it shouldn't according to the docs, because supposedly the
 mouseLeave message is not sent unless it already is the browse tool).
 
 But then when I leave the pop-up the handler gets invoked again so instead
 of my selected tool it turns back into the browse tool again.
 
 So I need to maybe figure out *what* I just left, for example...
 
 Is that script on the card? Can you just move the script to the mage object
 itself?

As I suspected,that doesn't work. I think what happens is that the
mouseLeave is sent to the card, so it is not caught by an object handler.

doug

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Re: stack handler unavailable from cd script?!

2004-01-07 Thread Eric Engle
I want to thank Rob for his tips; basically this appears to have been due to a
system error or a syntax error in the parent scripts (i.e. at the stack or more
likely card script). Some lines parsed properly in hypercard, not in
revolution.

I thought it might have been memory leakage or some other arcane os problem.
However I had already cold booted to test for this before writing the list.

I'm fairly sure it must have been a syntax error due to an ommitted quotation
mark in a string - the card script had lots of string variables.

Anyway, the problem is solved: I would have written quicker to say don't
bother answering but figured it was too late. Anyway I needed a nights rest to
re-read the card script to check for any syntax errors. 

The only other possibility would have been orphan code. when I have an old
handler I've modified I sometimes keep the old code so:

on mouseup
  newCode
end mouseup

oldcode
moreoldcode

the old code not being in a handler doesn't bother hypercard - though in
metacard it sometimes generates error messages. I presume it does not execute
at runtime since the oldcode is no longer in a handler.

Anyway - thanks!

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recording the mouse movements while using a paint tool

2004-01-07 Thread Doug Lerner
It is possible to log the mouse actions in the paint area. For example, a
handler like this:

 
on mouseMove 
  global wbTracker 
  repeat while the mouse is down
put ,  the mouseLoc after wbTracker
  end repeat 
end mouseMove 



will record something like this for the mouse movements:

51,486,351,486,351,486,351,486,351,486,351,486,351,486,351,486,351,486,351,4
86,351,486,351,486,351,486,351,486,351,486,351,486,351,486,351,486,351,486,3
51,486,351,486,351,486,351,486,351,486,351,486,351,486,351,486,351,486,351,4
86,351,486,351,486,351,486,351,486,351,486,351,486,351,486,351,486,351,486,3
51,486,351,486,351,486,351,486,351,486,351,486,351,486,351,486,351,486,351..
.etc.

but this needs to be tweaked because the drawn line appears after the mouse
is up, rather than during the operation.

doug

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stack color problems after upgrading to 2.1.2

2004-01-07 Thread Doug Lerner
I upgraded to Rev 2.1.2 (OS X) just before. Now substacks that had colored
backgrounds (orange, yellow...) are all coming out white.

The main stack retained its color though.

Is there some difference in how background colors of substacks are treated
in 2.1.2?

doug

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stack color problems after upgrading to 2.1.2

2004-01-07 Thread Doug Lerner

I should clarify in the previous message that the problem is just in the
standalone apps. In the IDE the colors remains as they have always been.

doug


---previous message-

I upgraded to Rev 2.1.2 (OS X) just before. Now substacks that had colored
backgrounds (orange, yellow...) are all coming out white.

The main stack retained its color though.

Is there some difference in how background colors of substacks are treated
in 2.1.2?

doug

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Re: XP GIF display oddities

2004-01-07 Thread DVGlasgow
Hello folks,

OK, I am unsure whether it is only me with any interest in this thread, but 
it may be that what I have established helps others, and someone who knows XP 
might help me to take the next step.

The story so far is that a customer with XP complained that a list of 
authorised users did not appear in his copy.  (which disabled the buttons navigating 
to screens) It seems that unlike all other versions of Windows, XP cannot 
access the encrypted list of users in a preopenstack handler.  I had to change it 
so that the application has actually launched and THEN looks up the names of 
users.

He then complained that images looked odd.  All Gifs.  Some were home spun, 
but standard icons and the pointy hand cursor also displayed wrongly.  As usual 
I got good advice from this list, but   nothing really hit the target.

I have just discovered that when faced with the original problem, this 
customer tried using the Windows XP Compatibility Wizard.  On the face of it, a 
reasonable thing to try.  However, it was only *after* using this that the display 
problems emerged.I have a feeling this particular wizard is more of a 
Saruman than a Gandalf.

I am pretty sure I have fixed the original problem.  The question is what 
advice do I give the customer?  It seems that the dreaded wizard remembers the 
exe and creates what it feels is the 'correct' environment automatically 
whenever it is launched.  Is this right?  What exactly does it fiddle with?  How can 
it be persuaded  to not intervene any more?  (please, no quests to the Cracks 
of Doom).

Best wishes,

David Glasgow

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mail-list or BB or newsgroup

2004-01-07 Thread Bob Hartley
Hi all.

sorry if another post comes up, I posted using a different mail address 
earlier.

Anyway...

One reason I nearly bought real basic instead of revolution was there is a 
real basic newsgroup. Revolution was my first choice but I like newsnet's 
open forum.

I bought revolution and subscribed to the maillist, however, I cant help 
but think that some may be put off by not wanting lots of mails (note it 
didn't put me off).

I know to ref a newsgroup would be tedious and open to harvesting, 
however, I beleive it would be better to have a relatively open 
bulletinboard like the
http://www.acornevolution.com/

driven by
http://www.phpbb.com/
Cheers
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htmlText and links

2004-01-07 Thread Chris Sheffield
I have what may be kind of a strange question.

I am using links in html to set up some text for users to click on and have
a definition displayed.  The text consists of a word (or words) with the
textStyle set to link, and the href for that link is set to the text of the
accompanying definition.  Then using the linkClicked message I can retrieve
the definition and display it.  This all works great.

Now for my weird question.  What I'd like to do is apply some automatic
formatting to my definition.  So certain words would be bold and certain
words would be italicized.  Is there any way to include the appropriate tags
within my html link?  For example, in my text file, I might have something
like this:

a href=A ball is something that you bounce.ball/a

Is it possible to do something like this?

a href=A bball/b is something that you bounce.ball/a

I know the above does not work because I've tried it.  I'm wondering if
there is some kind of escape character that will allow me to literally
include the tags in the href, then I could set another field's htmlText to
that.  Is this even clear?  :-)

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Chris Sheffield
Software Development
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Re: mail-list or BB or newsgroup

2004-01-07 Thread Scott Rossi
On 1/7/04 6:02 AM, Bob Hartley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I know to ref a newsgroup would be tedious and open to harvesting,
 however, I beleive it would be better to have a relatively open
 bulletinboard like the
 http://www.acornevolution.com/

You might want to review a similar thread from the list:

  http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2003-July/020241.html

Regards,

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Re: htmlText and links

2004-01-07 Thread xbury . cs
Unless you redefine a new HTML standard, you out of luck.

The solution is to make a lookup table for your href links and substitute 
the
formated lookup after the click...

  a href=my link is not formatedmy link/a

in a field you have the linkreferences containing the link and the 
formated link separated by 
your favorite itemdelimiter.

Then you
  put the number of lines in char 1 to offset(mylink,linkreferences) of 
linkreferences into thisline
  put item 2 of line thisline of linkreferences into formatedlink

and VOILA!

Mind you the example script is not complete and the lineoffset will
probably fail...

cheers
Xavier

On 07/01/2004 16:30:29 use-revolution-bounces wrote:
I have what may be kind of a strange question.

I am using links in html to set up some text for users to click on and 
have
a definition displayed.  The text consists of a word (or words) with the
textStyle set to link, and the href for that link is set to the text of 
the
accompanying definition.  Then using the linkClicked message I can 
retrieve
the definition and display it.  This all works great.

Now for my weird question.  What I'd like to do is apply some automatic
formatting to my definition.  So certain words would be bold and certain
words would be italicized.  Is there any way to include the appropriate 
tags
within my html link?  For example, in my text file, I might have 
something
like this:

a href=A ball is something that you bounce.ball/a

Is it possible to do something like this?

a href=A bball/b is something that you bounce.ball/a

I know the above does not work because I've tried it.  I'm wondering if
there is some kind of escape character that will allow me to literally
include the tags in the href, then I could set another field's htmlText 
to
that.  Is this even clear?  :-)

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Chris Sheffield
Software Development
Read Naturally

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visual effect command help

2004-01-07 Thread Andy Burns
I have a rev stack that uses the visual effect command.

The stack's visual behavior to go to the next page (visual effect: shrink to
top very fast) is akin to that of a small spiral notepad where you flip the
top page up vertically and the next page appears. The problem is when I flip
back to the previous card (notepad page), I can see the previous card before
the effect takes place.

What is the correct visual effect to not display the previous card before
the visual effect occurs.

Thanks for any help.

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Win98 loses path

2004-01-07 Thread Thomas J McGrath III
I hope someone can help me on this one. I designed a CD to run on Mac 
OS9/OSX and Windows 2000/XP. But a lot of users are telling me they 
have Win 98 and although some of the CD works there is a rather big 
problem on 98. The following scripts do work in 2000 and XP but not in 
98. I put the development fix in so it can work from the location of 
my images folder.

 The problem is in the relative path that displays my images.
In my main stack I reference - media/Slide10.png - which is in my media 
folder with my final build. (These images do show up when referenced in 
the property inspector as ' media/Slide10.png ' etc. ) Then I have 
buttons over this image that open a substack based upon what the slide 
states. When the substack opens I then have this script to load what 
ever images are in a corresponding folder for this substack. (These 
images don't show up in 98 but do on all the other platforms listed 
below)

So if card one in main stack has a button that opens substack 31i 
then I have a sub folder named 31i and in it I have my png slide 
images.

Well the images do not appear in 98 but do work in 2000 and XP home and 
XP Pro. They work fine in OS9 and OSX (3.x).
What could be different about the defaultFolder in 98? Does anyone know?

This script is in my card script in each substack.
- snip-
global the_path, totalimages, currentimage, theimages -- theimages 
holds the list of images in the folder
 if the environment is Development then
set the itemdel to /
get the effective filename of this stack
delete item -1 of it
put it  /media/31i/ into the_path -- folder 31i has the images 
in my media folder
put the directory into altdir
set the directory to the_path
put the files into theimages
set the directory to altdir
  else
put the directory into altdir
put defaultFolder  /media/31i/ into the_path
set the directory to the_path
put the files into theimages
set the directory to altdir
  end if

This is in my openCard script:
-snip-
set the filename of image slide to the_path  line currentimage of 
theimages

this script is in my next button -- I have similar scripts in my 
Previous button and home button.
-snip-
 global the_path, totalimages, currentimage, theimages
  if currentimage  totalimages then
put currentimage + 1 into currentimage
  else
put 1 into currentimage
  end if
  lock screen
  set the filename of image slide to (the_path  line currentimage of 
theimages)



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Re: visual effect command help

2004-01-07 Thread Dar Scott
On Wednesday, January 7, 2004, at 08:58 AM, Andy Burns wrote:

The problem is when I flip
back to the previous card (notepad page), I can see the previous card 
before
the effect takes place.
When I ran into this earlier on XP, it was suggested that I turn off 
using QuickTime.  That worked, but the effects were a little rougher.

I have also seen this on other platforms when I click through cards 
very fast.

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Resize objects in standalone

2004-01-07 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Hi Revolutionaries,

How could I make that resize handles for
fields and images appear in a standalone?

I thought that selecting the pointer tool
will make them appear. Pointer tool only
moves the fields and images, but not resize
them.

Thanks in advance.

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RE: A text representation of recent actions?

2004-01-07 Thread Ken Ray
 For example, say a user has
 
 choose pencil tool
 
 set and draws in the image.
 
 Is there a way of capturing, in text form, what the user did 
 so that information can be sent to a server?

The only way is to trap the messages that are caused by the user and
forwarding them to your server. Like for example you can trap
closeField to forward the message Changed data in field fieldName
to your server. Other things you'll have to do based on commands you
implement. So for example, if someone clicks on a pencil tool in your
tool palette, you can trap the mouseUp message and forward Selected
pencil tool to your server.

There's nothing automatically built into Rev, however.

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Re: Win98 loses path

2004-01-07 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Thomas,

...-snip
set the filename of image slide to the_path  line currentimage of 
theimages

this script is in my next button -- I have similar scripts in my 
Previous button and home button.
-snip-
 global the_path, totalimages, currentimage, theimages
  if currentimage  totalimages then
put currentimage + 1 into currentimage
  else
put 1 into currentimage
  end if
  lock screen
  set the filename of image slide to (the_path  line currentimage 
of theimages)
Quick guess:

Is your standalone on the root-level of the CD-Rom?

Like:

E:\YourApp.exe

I remember there were some problems on win = 98...

That might explain your experience...

Anyone else remember this?

The solution was to put the standalone into a folder on the CD-Rom and 
maybe
create a shortcut/link on the root-level...

Hope that helps...

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Re: htmlText and links

2004-01-07 Thread Mark Brownell
On Wednesday, January 7, 2004, at 07:45  AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

Is it possible to do something like this?

a href=A bball/b is something that you bounce.ball/a

I know the above does not work because I've tried it.  I'm wondering 
if
there is some kind of escape character that will allow me to literally
include the tags in the href, then I could set another field's 
htmlText
to
that.  Is this even clear?  :-)
a href=A lt;bgt;balllt;/bgt; is something that you 
bounce.ball/a

have your roll-over handler or your mouseClick handler put this href= 
anchor into an off screen field using set the HTMLText of fld 
offScreenField to myAnchorVar
then put that field's text into variableX and have your roll-over 
handler or your mouseClick handler display it using set the HTMLText of 
field Definition to variableX.

Good luck, this is an untested idea that I use for embedding attributes 
in unorthodox tag sets  that work for me.

Mark

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Re: Win98 loses path

2004-01-07 Thread Thomas J McGrath III
Klaus,

Yes it is at the root level. If this is the case won't this mess up my 
relative paths or do I need to put all of the OSX/9 and Win standalones 
in a subfolder. Will that keep my relative paths fine.

Tom

On Jan 7, 2004, at 12:05 PM, Klaus Major wrote:

Hi Thomas,

...-snip
set the filename of image slide to the_path  line currentimage of 
theimages

this script is in my next button -- I have similar scripts in my 
Previous button and home button.
-snip-
 global the_path, totalimages, currentimage, theimages
  if currentimage  totalimages then
put currentimage + 1 into currentimage
  else
put 1 into currentimage
  end if
  lock screen
  set the filename of image slide to (the_path  line currentimage 
of theimages)
Quick guess:

Is your standalone on the root-level of the CD-Rom?

Like:

E:\YourApp.exe

I remember there were some problems on win = 98...

That might explain your experience...

Anyone else remember this?

The solution was to put the standalone into a folder on the CD-Rom and 
maybe
create a shortcut/link on the root-level...

Hope that helps...

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The scripts are cool ;-)
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Re: Win98 loses path

2004-01-07 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Thomas,

Klaus,

Yes it is at the root level. If this is the case won't this mess up my 
relative
paths or do I need to put all of the OSX/9 and Win standalones in a 
subfolder.
Will that keep my relative paths fine.
The latter one...

Put everything into a folder, place this folder on the root-level
and relativity is being kept :-)
Tom
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Re: Win98 loses path

2004-01-07 Thread James . Cass
Windows 98 users better upgrade to XP.  Microsoft is pounding the final 
coffin nails into 98.  The funeral is next Friday.  (01/16/2004 )
More:  http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/01/04/2158233

- James  :-)





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Hi Thomas,

 Klaus,

 Yes it is at the root level. If this is the case won't this mess up my
 relative
 paths or do I need to put all of the OSX/9 and Win standalones in a
 subfolder.
 Will that keep my relative paths fine.

The latter one...

Put everything into a folder, place this folder on the root-level
and relativity is being kept :-)

 Tom

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Re: mail-list or BB or newsgroup

2004-01-07 Thread Richard Gaskin
Bob Hartley wrote:

 One reason I nearly bought real basic instead of revolution was there is a
 real basic newsgroup. Revolution was my first choice but I like newsnet's
 open forum.

You almost bought a tool because of a protocol?  And I thought I was an NNTP
fan  :)

But seriously, I hear you.

 I bought revolution and subscribed to the maillist, however, I cant help
 but think that some may be put off by not wanting lots of mails (note it
 didn't put me off).

The topic comes up here and on a great many lists I'm on from time to time
(even the SIG-CHI list), and while I like Usenet myself I'm always
outnumbered.

Reasons cited for this global transition from Usenet to discussion lists
include:

- a majority feel push is more convenient than pull (I feel differently,
but like I said I'm outnumbered)

- spam

- spam

- spam

- spam


Rev discussion has already diversified to include a number of other lists,
Yahoo Groups, etc. for specialized topic focus, so as its user base
continues to grow it would seem there could be room for specialization by
preferred venue type with a newsgroup as well.

Some folks use the comp.sys.,ac.hypercard newsgroup for Rev discussion,
mostly for reasons of historical language similarity, but a few HyperCard
purists get mad there when that happens and I don't think any Mac-specific
newsgroup is the best option for a tool whose greatest strength lies in
platform independence.

Mr. Chia: Is it time yet to consider setting up an NNTP server?  :)

Another option:  Any of the readers of this list have enough time on their
hands to make a Newswatcher-like UI for this list?  I'd happily add it to
RevNet.

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Re: Resize objects in standalone

2004-01-07 Thread Richard Gaskin
Alejandro Tejada wrote:

 How could I make that resize handles for
 fields and images appear in a standalone?
 
 I thought that selecting the pointer tool
 will make them appear. Pointer tool only
 moves the fields and images, but not resize
 them.

The engine does draw the handles when an object is selected with the pointer
tool, in all of the modes it can run in, including a standalone.  Could
there be some library or frontscript altering this native behavior?

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Re: too many emails in mail osx

2004-01-07 Thread Wolfgang M . Bereuter
On 06.01.2004, at 21:58, Thomas J McGrath III wrote:

I have way too many emails now in OSX Mail. Does anyone know of an 
archiving application for OSX for Mail?

I have almost 5000 emails and I do like to search them for answers to 
scripting problems.
a great tool for archiving all kind/formats is DEVONthink.
http://www.devon-technologies.com/welcome.php
They have also an Applescript which does the job building a Finder 
Structure. But with 5000 mailes you should give the script a whole 
night to do the job...

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Rev Crash Again!

2004-01-07 Thread Jim Carwardine
I hope I can get someone to respond to this.  I¹m at my wit¹s end... Jim

Hi Folks... I¹m scripting a button to create a thumbnail button icon of the
current card.  When I run the following button script, it runs fine the
first time.  If I run it a second time, Rev aborts on the statement I have
marked.  How come?  Am I overflowing a buffer or something?  It¹s hampering
my testing by restarting Rev, however when I do, it runs fine then aborts
the second time again.

on ExportCard pStackPath,pImageType
  -- pStackPath is the path to the stack whose card you want to export
  -- pImageType is one of the three formats supported by the export
  --   command: paint, png or jpeg
  put the alwaysBuffer of stack pStackPath into tOldBuffer
  -- The next two lines force the current card image into the offscreen
buffer
  set the alwaysBuffer of stack pStackPath to false
  set the alwaysBuffer of stack pStackPath to true
  -- create invisible image
  if there is not an img Gallery Image then create img Gallery Image

  set the imagePixMapID of img Gallery Image to (the pixMapID of stack
pStackPath)
  select last image
  set the alwaysBuffer of stack pStackPath to tOldBuffer
 
  put 220 into theTargetSize -- adjust size here
  hide img Gallery Image

  put theTargetSize/the formattedwidth of img Gallery Image into theRatio
  set the width of img Gallery Image to theTargetSize

** it aborts on the following statement the second time *
  set the height of img Gallery Image to \
  round(the formattedheight of img Gallery Image * theRatio)
  if the height of img Gallery Image  170 then set the height of img
Gallery Image to 170
  set the icon of btn Gallery Button to the short id of img Gallery
Image 

  choose browse tool
end ExportCard

Thanks... Jim
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slightly off-topic: mac odbc

2004-01-07 Thread Steve Ralston
I need to have an app talk to a MySQL database using a User DSN. I have no problem 
setting up the ODBC on the pc, but the ODBC Administrator on my OSX mac doesn't make a 
lot of sense to me. On the pc I provide the ODBC manager with the database name, server
name,  username and password, and I can test the connection and it tells me the 
connection is successful. I don't see similar capabilities on the mac, so I'm guessing 
I'm missing something. Thanks very much to anyone who can help me understand this 
better.

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Re: Rev Crash Again!

2004-01-07 Thread Dar Scott
On Wednesday, January 7, 2004, at 11:07 AM, Jim Carwardine wrote:

I hope I can get someone to respond to this.  Im at my wits end... 
Jim
See comments on tip imag007 at http://www.sonsothunder.com.

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Re: Rev Crash Again!

2004-01-07 Thread Dar Scott
On Wednesday, January 7, 2004, at 11:07 AM, Jim Carwardine wrote:

  if there is not an img Gallery Image then create img Gallery 
Image
...
  select last image
This looks like a second time difference.

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Re: Rev Crash Again!

2004-01-07 Thread Dar Scott
On Wednesday, January 7, 2004, at 11:07 AM, Jim Carwardine wrote:

  set the imagePixMapID of img Gallery Image to (the pixMapID of 
stack
pStackPath)
When I'm finished with using this, I restore the original imagePixMapID 
and then delete the image.

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Re: Rev Crash Again!

2004-01-07 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Dar,

On Wednesday, January 7, 2004, at 11:07 AM, Jim Carwardine wrote:

  set the imagePixMapID of img Gallery Image to (the pixMapID of 
stack
pStackPath)
When I'm finished with using this, I restore the original 
imagePixMapID and then delete the image.
How do you do this?
Store the original imagepixmapid in a var and restore it later?
I had problems to empty that image after use :-)

I tried:

put empty into img 1
set the imagedata of img 1 to none
... to empty
...to 0
Then i tried:
put 1 ointo image 1 ##???
and that worked! ???

OTOH, the engine crashed when i tried to close the stack after that ;-)

Any hints are welcome...

Dar Scott
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Re: Rev Crash Again!

2004-01-07 Thread Dar Scott
On Wednesday, January 7, 2004, at 11:29 AM, Klaus Major wrote:

When I'm finished with using this, I restore the original 
imagePixMapID and then delete the image.
How do you do this?
Store the original imagepixmapid in a var and restore it later?
Yes.  It might be superstition.  My crashes stopped, so I assume I did 
something to stop them.

I had problems to empty that image after use :-)
I delete.  I also avoid any image selection and stuff like that.

I have an enhancement request in bugzilla that asks for a clean 
supported way to get the image of a card.  (or of a stack)

I'm using Rev 2.1.2 on OS X 10.2.8.

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Re: Rev Crash Again!

2004-01-07 Thread Jim Carwardine
I changed select last image to select img Gallery Image and the
crashes stopped, but they stopped because the mouseUp handler that calls the
exportCard handler stopped working.  When I look at the messageWatcher, I
see the mouseUp handler executing but not the exportCard handler.  I put a
trace on the statement sending the exportCard command but that shouldn't
affect the action... Jim

on 1/7/04 2:19 PM, Dar Scott wrote:

 
 On Wednesday, January 7, 2004, at 11:07 AM, Jim Carwardine wrote:
 
   if there is not an img Gallery Image then create img Gallery
 Image
 ...
   select last image
 
 This looks like a second time difference.
 
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Re: slightly off-topic: mac odbc

2004-01-07 Thread Alex Rice
On Jan 7, 2004, at 11:18 AM, Steve Ralston wrote:

I need to have an app talk to a MySQL database using a User DSN. I 
have no problem setting up the ODBC on the pc, but the ODBC 
Administrator on my OSX mac doesn't make a lot of sense to me. On the 
pc I provide the ODBC manager with the database name, server
name,  username and password, and I can test the connection and it 
tells me the connection is successful. I don't see similar 
capabilities on the mac, so I'm guessing I'm missing something. Thanks 
very much to anyone who can help me understand this better.
Steve, I haven't looked at it in 10.3, but in MacOS 10.2 the ODBC 
administrator was worthless IMHO. It is a stripped down version of 
iODCB Driver Manager which comes with the commercial iODBC drivers. 
Download some drivers and use that Driver Manager instead.

I've found ODBC on Unix and Mac to be a real pain because most of the 
drivers are very expensive, and it's not very widely used. Unlike on 
Windows where everything is ODBC it seems.

Here are some starters:
http://www.iodbc.org/
http://www.openlinksw.com/support/macosx-faq.htm
I'm not sure about licensing. The openlink drivers appear to be GPLed 
now!

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RE: XP GIF display oddities

2004-01-07 Thread Chipp Walters
David,

A couple of points.

1) I doubt the compatibility wizard creates *any* envrironment variables
(course, I could be wrong, but this is the *first* I've ever heard of this.
Couldn't find *anything* on Google about it either, which would confirm my
suspicion that the wizard isn't affecting anything. My understanding of the
wizard is that it mostly checks a database to see if the program has been
'XP certified.' Of course your app wouldn't be (unless you've submitted it
to MS for certification)

2) It sounds like the problem could be your users display drivers. Generally
when *standard* images display incorrecty on XP in Rev, the issue is display
drivers.

You can have your user to the following to test:

Right-click the desktop and select properties
choose settings tab
click on the Advanced button
Click the Troubleshoot tab
Turn Hardware acceleration to NONE and turn off the Enable write combining
check box.
Relaunch the problem program and see if it the problem goes away.
If it does go away, then you can gradually add increasing levels of Hardware
acceleration until it appears again ( and try checking the 'enable write
combining' box again)

If this works, then the issue is the display drivers and your user could
check for driver updates...or just use the lower acceleration.

best,

Chipp

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 Hello folks,

 OK, I am unsure whether it is only me with any interest in this
 thread, but
 it may be that what I have established helps others, and someone
 who knows XP
 might help me to take the next step.

 The story so far is that a customer with XP complained that a list of
 authorised users did not appear in his copy.  (which disabled the
 buttons navigating
 to screens) It seems that unlike all other versions of Windows, XP cannot
 access the encrypted list of users in a preopenstack handler.  I
 had to change it
 so that the application has actually launched and THEN looks up
 the names of
 users.

 He then complained that images looked odd.  All Gifs.  Some were
 home spun,
 but standard icons and the pointy hand cursor also displayed
 wrongly.  As usual
 I got good advice from this list, but   nothing really hit the target.

 I have just discovered that when faced with the original problem, this
 customer tried using the Windows XP Compatibility Wizard.  On the
 face of it, a
 reasonable thing to try.  However, it was only *after* using this
 that the display
 problems emerged.I have a feeling this particular wizard is more of a
 Saruman than a Gandalf.

 I am pretty sure I have fixed the original problem.  The question is what
 advice do I give the customer?  It seems that the dreaded wizard
 remembers the
 exe and creates what it feels is the 'correct' environment automatically
 whenever it is launched.  Is this right?  What exactly does it
 fiddle with?  How can
 it be persuaded  to not intervene any more?  (please, no quests
 to the Cracks
 of Doom).

 Best wishes,

 David Glasgow

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Update a global when going to a stack as modal

2004-01-07 Thread Mark Powell
I have a handler in stack A of the pseudo form below
  ...
  LINE 1 put Before into global gFoo
  LINE 2 go to stack B as modal; user input there goes into gFoo
  LINE 3 put gFoo into fld Information of stack A
  ...

The text that is put into the field on stack A is inevitably Before.
However, if I immediately type 

  put gFoo into fld Information

the data that was collected in stack B is put into the field in stack A as
expected.  The global is populated as I would want, except it is as if line
3 above is run before line 2.  What is going on?  Can I not switch between
stacks and collect data?  Is there a workaround?

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Re: Rev Crash Again!

2004-01-07 Thread Jim Carwardine
Sorry, false alarm.  Found a typo.  Rev's error reporting takes some getting
used to... Jim

on 1/7/04 3:00 PM, Jim Carwardine wrote:

 I changed select last image to select img Gallery Image and the
 crashes stopped, but they stopped because the mouseUp handler that calls the
 exportCard handler stopped working.  When I look at the messageWatcher, I
 see the mouseUp handler executing but not the exportCard handler.  I put a
 trace on the statement sending the exportCard command but that shouldn't
 affect the action... Jim
 
 on 1/7/04 2:19 PM, Dar Scott wrote:
 
 
 On Wednesday, January 7, 2004, at 11:07 AM, Jim Carwardine wrote:
 
   if there is not an img Gallery Image then create img Gallery
 Image
 ...
   select last image
 
 This looks like a second time difference.
 
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Re: Win98 loses path

2004-01-07 Thread Thomas J McGrath III
It all relative then!

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Re: Rev Crash Again!

2004-01-07 Thread Dar Scott
On Wednesday, January 7, 2004, at 01:26 PM, Jim Carwardine wrote:

Sorry, false alarm.  Found a typo.  Rev's error reporting takes some 
getting
used to... Jim
Does this mean your stack image capture works?  Cool!

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Auto Play on PCs

2004-01-07 Thread Thomas J McGrath III
Does anyone know how to have my cd auto play on insertion on the PC

sort of in a hurry on this one.

Thank you in advance

Tom



Macintosh PowerBook G-4 OSX 10.3.1, OS 9.2.2, 1.25 GHz, 512MB RAM, Rev 
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Re: Auto Play on PCs

2004-01-07 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Jan 7, 2004, at 1:41 PM, Thomas J McGrath III wrote:

Does anyone know how to have my cd auto play on insertion on the PC

sort of in a hurry on this one.

Create an autorun.inf file in the root directory of your CD.

In it put the following:

[autorun]
open=MyApp.exe
This will launch MyApp.exe when the CD is inserted.

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Re: Auto Play on PCs

2004-01-07 Thread Dar Scott
On Wednesday, January 7, 2004, at 01:41 PM, Thomas J McGrath III wrote:

Does anyone know how to have my cd auto play on insertion on the PC

sort of in a hurry on this one.
Look at autorun.inf on one of your CDs.

sort of a hurried response.

When you are in less of a hurry you can give me a clue as to how to do 
that on OS X.

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Re: Auto Play on PCs

2004-01-07 Thread Thomas J McGrath III
Do you know if TextEdit can handle the document type?

I will try it on my Mac, but do I need to access a PC?

Thanks
Tom
On Jan 7, 2004, at 3:47 PM, Trevor DeVore wrote:

On Jan 7, 2004, at 1:41 PM, Thomas J McGrath III wrote:

Does anyone know how to have my cd auto play on insertion on the 
PC

sort of in a hurry on this one.

Create an autorun.inf file in the root directory of your CD.

In it put the following:

[autorun]
open=MyApp.exe
This will launch MyApp.exe when the CD is inserted.

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Re: Auto Play on PCs

2004-01-07 Thread Thomas J McGrath III
Oopps.

Also, what about the file path. It will be in a folder at the root 
level of the CD.

Thanks so much...

Tom

On Jan 7, 2004, at 3:47 PM, Trevor DeVore wrote:

[autorun]
open=MyApp.exe
Macintosh PowerBook G-4 OSX 10.3.1, OS 9.2.2, 1.25 GHz, 512MB RAM, Rev 
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Re: Auto Play on PCs

2004-01-07 Thread Thomas J McGrath III
Thanks Roger,

I haven't gotten used to searching using google yet. But I guess I need 
to since so many answers seem to come that way.

Thanks again,

Tom

On Jan 7, 2004, at 3:42 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Does anyone know how to have my cd auto play on insertion on the 
PC

sort of in a hurry on this one.
Since you're in a hurry... here is a repeat from the past.
You can find more info at
http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=site:lists.runrev.com
~Roger

Back in August Klaus wrote:

On windows you just have to include a simple text-file on the cd
called autorun.inf.
Here is a small example:

[autorun]
ICON=youriconhere.ico
OPEN=Setup.exe
This tiny script will tell windoze to display the icon 
youriconhere.ico
for the cd and will start the application setup.exe if the user 
did not
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Re: Auto Play on PCs

2004-01-07 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Jan 7, 2004, at 1:53 PM, Thomas J McGrath III wrote:

Oopps.

Also, what about the file path. It will be in a folder at the root 
level of the CD.

Thanks so much...
You should be able to put:

open=MyFolder/MyApp.exe

though I haven't tested this.

On Jan 7, 2004, at 1:51 PM, Thomas J McGrath III wrote:

Do you know if TextEdit can handle the document type?

I will try it on my Mac, but do I need to access a PC?
I use BBEdit to create mine and I always use DOS line endings.  I 
imagine it would probably have problems with Mac line endings.  If you 
don't have a PC you could make the file with rev with something like:

put [autorun]  numToChar(13)  numToChar(10)  
open=MyFolder/Myapp.exe into tFile

then save the file to disk using the 'open file' commands.

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Re: Auto Play on PCs

2004-01-07 Thread Dar Scott
On Wednesday, January 7, 2004, at 01:53 PM, Thomas J McGrath III wrote:

Also, what about the file path. It will be in a folder at the root 
level of the CD.

Thanks so much...

Tom

On Jan 7, 2004, at 3:47 PM, Trevor DeVore wrote:

[autorun]
open=MyApp.exe
open=abc\MyApp.exe

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Re: Auto Play on PCs

2004-01-07 Thread Dar Scott
On Wednesday, January 7, 2004, at 01:51 PM, Thomas J McGrath III wrote:

Do you know if TextEdit can handle the document type?

I will try it on my Mac, but do I need to access a PC?
This will probably work (plain text).  But you might want to put a page 
in your Revolution scrapbook stack (or whatever you use) that saves 
from a field with the Windows line ends.

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Re: Auto Play on PCs

2004-01-07 Thread Dar Scott
On Wednesday, January 7, 2004, at 02:01 PM, Trevor DeVore wrote:

put [autorun]  numToChar(13)  numToChar(10)  
open=MyFolder/Myapp.exe into tFile
Building on that...

put [autorun]  CRLF  open=MyFolder\Myapp.exe  CRLF into URL 
(binfile:  cdMockupFolder  autorun.inf)

I don't know if you need the second crlf.  You might not need the 
backslash.  You can probably figure the cdMockupFolder in your head and 
put this all in the message box.

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Pencil to Browse tool switch

2004-01-07 Thread Ronald Zellner
This should be basic, but it doesn't want to cooperate.

I have a button which chooses the pencil tool so the user can draw in 
an image rectangle.  There is also a button to choose the eraser tool 
that works fine if the browser tool is active, but it will not respond 
if clicked when the pencil tool is active.

 The cursor also remains as the pencil (doesn't switch to an arrow as 
the documentation states it should)  even after moving out of the image 
rectangle.  I know many commands require the browse tool to operate but 
I need a way for the user to switch from the pencil to the eraser.  Any 
solutions?

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Re: too many emails in mail osx

2004-01-07 Thread Robert Brenstein
Help,

I have way too many emails now in OSX Mail. Does anyone know of an 
archiving application for OSX for Mail?

I have almost 5000 emails and I do like to search them for answers 
to scripting problems.

Tom

This topic has been extensly discussed in Tidbits Talk not long ago. 
I suggest you search through their archives for archiving mails 
(emails) or sth like that.

http://www.tidbits.com
http://db.tidbits.com/tbtalk/
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Re: Pencil to Browse tool switch

2004-01-07 Thread Sarah Reichelt
Move the switch tools buttons to a separate stack and set it to open as 
a palette or modeless stack. This way the browse tool is automatically 
applied when moving over the stack, so you can change between any 
tools.

Cheers,
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On 8 Jan 2004, at 7:39 am, Ronald Zellner wrote:

This should be basic, but it doesn't want to cooperate.

I have a button which chooses the pencil tool so the user can draw in 
an image rectangle.  There is also a button to choose the eraser tool 
that works fine if the browser tool is active, but it will not respond 
if clicked when the pencil tool is active.

 The cursor also remains as the pencil (doesn't switch to an arrow as 
the documentation states it should)  even after moving out of the 
image rectangle.  I know many commands require the browse tool to 
operate but I need a way for the user to switch from the pencil to the 
eraser.  Any solutions?

Ron Zellner

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RE: htmlText and links

2004-01-07 Thread Chris Sheffield
Mark,

Thanks so much!  That is exactly what I needed.


Chris Sheffield
Software Development
Read Naturally 


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Subject: Re: htmlText and links



On Wednesday, January 7, 2004, at 07:45  AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Is it possible to do something like this?

 a href=A bball/b is something that you bounce.ball/a

 I know the above does not work because I've tried it.  I'm wondering
 if
 there is some kind of escape character that will allow me to literally
 include the tags in the href, then I could set another field's 
 htmlText
 to
 that.  Is this even clear?  :-)

a href=A lt;bgt;balllt;/bgt; is something that you 
bounce.ball/a

have your roll-over handler or your mouseClick handler put this href= 
anchor into an off screen field using set the HTMLText of fld 
offScreenField to myAnchorVar
then put that field's text into variableX and have your roll-over 
handler or your mouseClick handler display it using set the HTMLText of 
field Definition to variableX.

Good luck, this is an untested idea that I use for embedding attributes 
in unorthodox tag sets  that work for me.

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Re: Update a global when going to a stack as modal

2004-01-07 Thread Sarah Reichelt
Are you sure you are declaring gFoo as a global in BOTH places?
If you forget the global gFoo line in the script of stack B, then it 
won't change the value of the real global, just a local variable of the 
same name.

Similarly, if you don't have the global declaration in stack A, then it 
will be using a local variable which will not be affected by setting a 
global of the same name in stack B.

Cheers,
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On 8 Jan 2004, at 7:42 am, Mark Powell wrote:

I have a handler in stack A of the pseudo form below
  ...
  LINE 1 put Before into global gFoo
  LINE 2 go to stack B as modal; user input there goes into gFoo
  LINE 3 put gFoo into fld Information of stack A
  ...
The text that is put into the field on stack A is inevitably Before.
However, if I immediately type
  put gFoo into fld Information

the data that was collected in stack B is put into the field in stack 
A as
expected.  The global is populated as I would want, except it is as if 
line
3 above is run before line 2.  What is going on?  Can I not switch 
between
stacks and collect data?  Is there a workaround?

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Determining which menu button was clicked on Mac

2004-01-07 Thread Trevor DeVore
I was wondering if there was a way to determine which button was 
clicked in a menu on the Mac?  On Windows you can put mouse event 
handlers in the button itself but these events are not processed on 
Mac.

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Re: mail-list or BB or newsgroup

2004-01-07 Thread Doug Lerner
You all should use Web Crossing! Then people can participate via web forums,
newsreader or email lists, as they like, all sharing the same data!

Doug

p.s. Yes - I work for Web Crossing - but it's great! (^_^)

On 1/7/04 11:02 PM, Bob Hartley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all.
 
 sorry if another post comes up, I posted using a different mail address
 earlier.
 
 Anyway...
 
 One reason I nearly bought real basic instead of revolution was there is a
 real basic newsgroup. Revolution was my first choice but I like newsnet's
 open forum.
 
 I bought revolution and subscribed to the maillist, however, I cant help
 but think that some may be put off by not wanting lots of mails (note it
 didn't put me off).
 
 I know to ref a newsgroup would be tedious and open to harvesting,
 however, I beleive it would be better to have a relatively open
 bulletinboard like the
 http://www.acornevolution.com/
 
 driven by
 http://www.phpbb.com/
 
 
 Cheers
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Re: Pencil to Browse tool switch

2004-01-07 Thread Richard Gaskin
Ronald Zellner wrote:

 This should be basic, but it doesn't want to cooperate.
 
 I have a button which chooses the pencil tool so the user can draw in
 an image rectangle.  There is also a button to choose the eraser tool
 that works fine if the browser tool is active, but it will not respond
 if clicked when the pencil tool is active.
 
 The cursor also remains as the pencil (doesn't switch to an arrow as
 the documentation states it should)  even after moving out of the image
 rectangle.  I know many commands require the browse tool to operate but
 I need a way for the user to switch from the pencil to the eraser.  Any
 solutions?

Setting the cantSelect of your tool buttons should ideally do it, but it
doesn't work yet (only with the pointer tool).  Worth submiting a Buzilla
enhancement request for that.

In the meantime you could consider moving your tools to a palette window
which should work.

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Re: Determining which menu button was clicked on Mac

2004-01-07 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Jan 7, 2004, at 4:41 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote:
On 8 Jan 2004, at 9:22 am, Trevor DeVore wrote:

I was wondering if there was a way to determine which button was 
clicked in a menu on the Mac?  On Windows you can put mouse event 
handlers in the button itself but these events are not processed on 
Mac.
Check the docs for the mouseUp message. It has a parameter that tells 
which button is clicked. On Macs, this is 1 for the left mouse button 
and 3 for right mouse button or control-click.
Though it probably wasn't clear in my original post I would like the 
actual button File, Edit, Help, etc. that is being clicked.  I have 
one menu button in particular whose values are determined by calls to 
an external.  I would prefer not to call the external function every 
time the user clicks on the menu as a group, just when they click on 
one menu item in particular.

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Application Icon during Distribution Build

2004-01-07 Thread Thomas Cole
When I build a distribution for Windows there is an option to include an application 
icon. I have selected a graphic, but during the build I get a message to try again 
because the graphic is the wrong size (in KB) and I need 16 colors or something. 
What's the easy way to give the program a graphic that it likes? I'm using OSX.
Thanks

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mouseEnter and mouseLeave - what object?

2004-01-07 Thread Doug Lerner
Is there an easy way of knowing *what* object (which field, which card,
which img, etc.) the mouse has entered or left when in the mouseEnter and
mouseLeave handlers?

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Re: Determining which menu button was clicked on Mac

2004-01-07 Thread Doug Lerner
On 1/8/04 8:50 AM, Trevor DeVore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Jan 7, 2004, at 4:34 PM, Doug Lerner wrote:
 
 On 1/8/04 8:21 AM, Trevor DeVore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I was wondering if there was a way to determine which button was
 clicked in a menu on the Mac?  On Windows you can put mouse event
 handlers in the button itself but these events are not processed on
 Mac.
 
 I put mouseUp handlers in all my buttons on the Mac and it works
 fine...
 
 It works fine for buttons but not for buttons that are set as the menu
 for the application.  Only the menu group receives the message in this
 case.


Is this like the problem I am having where I can select a menu item for
COPY, but I can't get the CMD+C recognized for that item?

I seem to be able to select individual items though, inside the menu.

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Re: Application Icon during Distribution Build

2004-01-07 Thread Thomas J McGrath III
Me too!

I don't know enough about what type size etc. that REV wants.

I hope someone else does.

Tom

On Jan 7, 2004, at 6:56 PM, Thomas Cole wrote:

When I build a distribution for Windows there is an option to include 
an application icon. I have selected a graphic, but during the build I 
get a message to try again because the graphic is the wrong size (in 
KB) and I need 16 colors or something. What's the easy way to give the 
program a graphic that it likes? I'm using OSX.
Thanks

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Re: Determining which menu button was clicked on Mac

2004-01-07 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Jan 7, 2004, at 5:04 PM, Doug Lerner wrote:

On 1/8/04 8:50 AM, Trevor DeVore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Jan 7, 2004, at 4:34 PM, Doug Lerner wrote:
On 1/8/04 8:21 AM, Trevor DeVore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I was wondering if there was a way to determine which button was
clicked in a menu on the Mac?  On Windows you can put mouse event
handlers in the button itself but these events are not processed on
Mac.
I put mouseUp handlers in all my buttons on the Mac and it works
fine...
It works fine for buttons but not for buttons that are set as the menu
for the application.  Only the menu group receives the message in this
case.
Is this like the problem I am having where I can select a menu item for
COPY, but I can't get the CMD+C recognized for that item?
I seem to be able to select individual items though, inside the menu.
I'm not sure.  I have experienced this problem in the Rev development 
environment (I type CMD+C to copy something but it isn't copied, I type 
CMD+S to save but the stack is not saved) but I don't remember it 
happening with my own menus.

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Re: mouseEnter and mouseLeave - what object?

2004-01-07 Thread Dar Scott
On Wednesday, January 7, 2004, at 05:02 PM, Doug Lerner wrote:

Is there an easy way of knowing *what* object (which field, which card,
which img, etc.) the mouse has entered or left when in the mouseEnter 
and
mouseLeave handlers?
the target

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Re: mouseEnter and mouseLeave - what object?

2004-01-07 Thread Doug Lerner
Too simple. Anything more complicated? :-)

Thanks!

doug

On 1/8/04 9:30 AM, Dar Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Wednesday, January 7, 2004, at 05:02 PM, Doug Lerner wrote:
 
 Is there an easy way of knowing *what* object (which field, which card,
 which img, etc.) the mouse has entered or left when in the mouseEnter
 and
 mouseLeave handlers?
 
 the target
 
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Re: Determining which menu button was clicked on Mac

2004-01-07 Thread Dar Scott
On Wednesday, January 7, 2004, at 04:53 PM, Trevor DeVore wrote:

Though it probably wasn't clear in my original post I would like the 
actual button File, Edit, Help, etc. that is being clicked.  I have 
one menu button in particular whose values are determined by calls to 
an external.  I would prefer not to call the external function every 
time the user clicks on the menu as a group, just when they click on 
one menu item in particular.
Rats, Trevor, I'm being dense.  It is still not clear to me.

What are you doing in menuPick?

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Re: mouseEnter and mouseLeave - what object?

2004-01-07 Thread Dar Scott
On Wednesday, January 7, 2004, at 05:37 PM, Doug Lerner wrote:

Too simple. Anything more complicated? :-)
You can put handlers in each object of interest.  (This can make it 
simpler in some cases, though.)

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Re: Determining which menu button was clicked on Mac

2004-01-07 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Jan 7, 2004, at 5:46 PM, Dar Scott wrote:
On Wednesday, January 7, 2004, at 04:53 PM, Trevor DeVore wrote:

Though it probably wasn't clear in my original post I would like the 
actual button File, Edit, Help, etc. that is being clicked.  I have 
one menu button in particular whose values are determined by calls to 
an external.  I would prefer not to call the external function every 
time the user clicks on the menu as a group, just when they click on 
one menu item in particular.
Rats, Trevor, I'm being dense.  It is still not clear to me.

What are you doing in menuPick?
Alright, here are all the gory details :-)

My project has a stack with a player object that audio files are loaded 
into for playback while viewing certain content in another stack.  One 
of the program menus is named Audio.  When the user clicks on the 
Audio menu a script uses my QT external to check if the player object 
is currently playing or stopped.  The first menu item changes to 'Play' 
or 'Pause' accordingly.  The change of text needs to happen in the 
mouseDown event, before the menu is displayed to the user.  Currently I 
call the external every time the user clicks on any application menu 
(by handling mouseDown in the group script).  I would prefer to only 
call it when the Audio menu is clicked on.

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Re: Determining which menu button was clicked on Mac

2004-01-07 Thread Björnke von Gierke
I had a similar problem like you, where I wanted to check/unckeck a 
menu item before the menu is shown. And indeed I was unable to do this 
anywhere else then the menubar group's script on OS X. I worked around 
this by using a if the target = view then script. It might be time 
for a feature request?

On Donnerstag, Jan 8, 2004, at 02:01 Europe/Zurich, Trevor DeVore wrote:

On Jan 7, 2004, at 5:46 PM, Dar Scott wrote:
On Wednesday, January 7, 2004, at 04:53 PM, Trevor DeVore wrote:

Though it probably wasn't clear in my original post I would like the 
actual button File, Edit, Help, etc. that is being clicked.  I 
have one menu button in particular whose values are determined by 
calls to an external.  I would prefer not to call the external 
function every time the user clicks on the menu as a group, just 
when they click on one menu item in particular.
Rats, Trevor, I'm being dense.  It is still not clear to me.

What are you doing in menuPick?
Alright, here are all the gory details :-)

My project has a stack with a player object that audio files are 
loaded into for playback while viewing certain content in another 
stack.  One of the program menus is named Audio.  When the user 
clicks on the Audio menu a script uses my QT external to check if 
the player object is currently playing or stopped.  The first menu 
item changes to 'Play' or 'Pause' accordingly.  The change of text 
needs to happen in the mouseDown event, before the menu is displayed 
to the user.  Currently I call the external every time the user clicks 
on any application menu (by handling mouseDown in the group script).  
I would prefer to only call it when the Audio menu is clicked on.

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Re: Determining which menu button was clicked on Mac

2004-01-07 Thread Mark Wieder
Trevor-

I'm confused, too.

on menuPick chosenItem
  if DogFood is chosenItem then
--feed the dog
  end if
end menuPick

Should give the text of the menuItem, no?

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[OT] new Mac software: GarageBand and iLife'04

2004-01-07 Thread Alex Rice
With the new GarageBand studio app, iLife suite is a steal at only $49
http://www.apple.com/ilife/


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Re: Rev Crash Again!

2004-01-07 Thread Jim Carwardine
No, I'm back to rev crashing every second time.  I don't think I clearly
understood Dar's fix... Jim

on 1/7/04 4:39 PM, Dar Scott wrote:

 
 On Wednesday, January 7, 2004, at 01:26 PM, Jim Carwardine wrote:
 
 Sorry, false alarm.  Found a typo.  Rev's error reporting takes some
 getting
 used to... Jim
 
 Does this mean your stack image capture works?  Cool!
 
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Re: [OT] new Mac software: GarageBand and iLife'04

2004-01-07 Thread Marian Petrides
It's a steal even if you are tone deaf (as I am) and are unlikely to 
use GarageBand for much beyond a novelty. The new features in iMovie 
(edit in the timeline, non-destructive) and iDVD (tree display of menu 
items, 2 hour DVDs) alone justify the cost.  And then there is 
GarageBand--the frosting on the cake!

M
On Jan 7, 2004, at 9:27 PM, Alex Rice wrote:
With the new GarageBand studio app, iLife suite is a steal at only $49
http://www.apple.com/ilife/


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RE: Application Icon during Distribution Build

2004-01-07 Thread Chipp Walters
check out the windows icon app tutorial at:

http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/RunRev/Tutorials.htm

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 Me too!

 I don't know enough about what type size etc. that REV wants.

 I hope someone else does.

 Tom

 On Jan 7, 2004, at 6:56 PM, Thomas Cole wrote:

  When I build a distribution for Windows there is an option to include
  an application icon. I have selected a graphic, but during the build I
  get a message to try again because the graphic is the wrong size (in
  KB) and I need 16 colors or something. What's the easy way to give the
  program a graphic that it likes? I'm using OSX.
  Thanks
 
  Tom Cole
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Re: Resize objects in standalone

2004-01-07 Thread Alejandro Tejada
on Wed, 07 Jan 2004 09:54:36 -0800
Richard Gaskin wrote:

The engine does draw the handles when an object is 
selected with the pointer tool, in all of the 
modes it can run in, including a standalone.  
Could there be some library or frontscript 
altering this native behavior?

You are right. The machine crash shortly after
I post the mail. One of the culprit must have
been an unrelated Java Program that stop responding.

My best wishes for all the participants and
assistants to the RunRev seminar
in San Francisco.

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Re: Rev Crash Again! ... cardImage() function

2004-01-07 Thread Dar Scott
On Wednesday, January 7, 2004, at 07:37 PM, Jim Carwardine wrote:

No, I'm back to rev crashing every second time.  I don't think I 
clearly
understood Dar's fix... Jim
OK.  OK.  Quit twisting my arm.  Here is my function:

--
-- cardImage()
-- by Dar Scott
-- Returns an image (PNG) of current card even if obscured
-- or off screen.  In addition this works when
-- lock screen is on, allowing PNGs of other cards to be obtained.
-- This is based on code by Ken Ray and Brian Yennie.
function cardImage
  local tCurrentCardImage, tOldAlwaysBuffer, tID
  put the alwaysBuffer of this stack into tOldAlwaysBuffer
  set the alwaysBuffer of this stack to false
  set the alwaysBuffer of this stack to true
  create invisible image
  put the imagePixMapID of last image into tID
  set the imagePixMapID of last image to (the pixMapID of this stack)
  export last image to tCurrentCardImage as PNG
  set the imagePixMapID of last image to tID
  set the alwaysBuffer of this stack to tOldAlwaysBuffer
  delete last image
  return tCurrentCardImage
end cardImage
This works for me in getting the image of the current card.  I have a 
button that gets the image of another card in the stack and that seems 
to work, too.  It uses this function.  Because of a bug, I export to 
get the PNG image; getting the text is not reliable.  It might be I 
don't know why this works.  I'm on OS X 10.2.8 and I use Revolution 
2.1.2.

I have a stack-thumbnail plugin and a special special-effects library 
on the back burner that I hoped to use this in.  (I also have dreamed 
of a 3-D stack explorer, but that is probably not practical.)  I think 
there might be lots of uses for such a thing.  My having a project on 
the back burner should not stop anybody from doing something similar; I 
have lots on the back burner.

I got the idea of this from tip imag007 at Ken Ray's site:
http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/metacard/tips/imag007.htm
This takes about 50 ms on my computer.  Dual 1.25 GHz G4.

Use this like this:
put cardImage() into field thumbnail
I'd be pleased to hear how this works.  Or doesn't work.

Dar


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Re: Determining which menu button was clicked on Mac

2004-01-07 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Jan 7, 2004, at 6:46 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:

Trevor-

I'm confused, too.

on menuPick chosenItem
  if DogFood is chosenItem then
--feed the dog
  end if
end menuPick
Should give the text of the menuItem, no?
Yes it does.  But the menuPick handler happens *after* the menu is 
displayed to the user.  I want to change the menu contents before the 
menu is displayed to the user.

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Re: Auto Play on PCs

2004-01-07 Thread Thomas J McGrath III
OK,

I put the autorun.inf file at the root level of my CD. It points to 
open=unity\UnityCD.exe where the executable is in a folder called 
Unity. In that same folder is my images folder called media.
Anyway, it works and auto runs the standalone app on Win XP and Win 
2000.

BUT now all of my referenced images do not appear. When the exe and 
media folder were at the root level everything worked fine BUT now none 
of them work.

How it is now.

root (CD)
autorun.inf
Unity (Folder)
UnityCD.exe
UnityCD.bundle (OSX)
UnityCD (OS9)
media (Folder)
image1.png
etc.
Before that every thing worked in XP and 2000 like this below. (but not 
on Win 98, which was part of what I wanted to fix)

root (CD)
UnityCD.exe
UnityCD.bundle (OSX)
UnityCD (OS9)
media (Folder)
image1.png
etc.
Any help is appreciated

Tom

On Jan 7, 2004, at 3:47 PM, Trevor DeVore wrote:

On Jan 7, 2004, at 1:41 PM, Thomas J McGrath III wrote:

Does anyone know how to have my cd auto play on insertion on the 
PC

sort of in a hurry on this one.

Create an autorun.inf file in the root directory of your CD.

In it put the following:

[autorun]
open=MyApp.exe
This will launch MyApp.exe when the CD is inserted.

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Re: Determining which menu button was clicked on Mac

2004-01-07 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Jan 7, 2004, at 6:26 PM, Björnke von Gierke wrote:

I had a similar problem like you, where I wanted to check/unckeck a 
menu item before the menu is shown. And indeed I was unable to do this 
anywhere else then the menubar group's script on OS X. I worked around 
this by using a if the target = view then script. It might be time 
for a feature request?
Where would you put the 'if the target = view then' script?  I tried 
checking 'the target' in the menubar group script but it returned the 
name of the menubar group rather than the name of the menu that was 
selected.

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Re: Win98 loses path

2004-01-07 Thread Thomas J McGrath III
OK, my relative paths are messed up!!

I put the autorun.inf file at the root level of my CD. It points to 
open=unity\UnityCD.exe where the executable is in a folder called 
Unity. In that same folder is my images folder called media.
Anyway, it works and auto runs the standalone app on Win XP and Win 
2000.

BUT now all of my referenced images do not appear. When the exe and 
media folder were at the root level everything worked fine BUT now none 
of them work. (They do however work in OS9 and OSX with either method 
used below)

How it is now. This does not work in XP or 2000 but does work in OSX/9.

root (CD)
autorun.inf
Unity (Folder)
UnityCD.exe
UnityCD.bundle (OSX)
UnityCD (OS9)
media (Folder)
image1.png
etc.
Before that every thing worked in XP and 2000 like this below. (but not 
on Win 98, which was part of what I wanted to fix)

root (CD)
UnityCD.exe
UnityCD.bundle (OSX)
UnityCD (OS9)
media (Folder)
image1.png
etc.
Any help is appreciated

Tom



On Jan 7, 2004, at 12:29 PM, Klaus Major wrote:

Hi Thomas,

Klaus,

Yes it is at the root level. If this is the case won't this mess up 
my relative
paths or do I need to put all of the OSX/9 and Win standalones in a 
subfolder.
Will that keep my relative paths fine.
The latter one...

Put everything into a folder, place this folder on the root-level
and relativity is being kept :-)
Tom
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2.11 vs 2.12 - change in behavior regarding bg colors

2004-01-07 Thread Doug Lerner
I found the cause of my bg color problem.

In 2.1.1, if you set a stack's bg color that is what is shown in the IDE and
also in the standalone app.

But in 2.1.2 setting a stack's bg color only shows up in the IDE. You have
to set the *card's* bg color in order for it to also show up in the
standalone app.

I think this should be considered a 2.1.2 bug - either in the IDE or in the
created standalone app. At the minimum they should look the same.

doug

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Re: Pencil to Browse tool switch

2004-01-07 Thread Doug Lerner
On 1/8/04 8:25 AM, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This should be basic, but it doesn't want to cooperate.
 
 I have a button which chooses the pencil tool so the user can draw in
 an image rectangle.  There is also a button to choose the eraser tool
 that works fine if the browser tool is active, but it will not respond
 if clicked when the pencil tool is active.
 
 The cursor also remains as the pencil (doesn't switch to an arrow as
 the documentation states it should)  even after moving out of the image
 rectangle.  I know many commands require the browse tool to operate but
 I need a way for the user to switch from the pencil to the eraser.  Any
 solutions?

This combination is working for me. It works for all the tools except the
dropper tool, for some reason.

In the select button:

on menuPick pWhich
  set the label of button selectTool to pWhich
  choose pWhich tool
end menuPick


In the image:

on mouseLeave
  choose browse tool
  pass mouseLeave
end mouseLeave

doug

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