Re: Rev Crash Again! ... cardImage() function
On Wednesday, January 7, 2004, at 10:00 PM, Dar Scott wrote: Here is my function: Here is a revision that handles the unusual case of the stack in defaultFolder not being open or otherwise not containing a valid value. -- Returns an image (PNG) of current card even if obscured -- or off screen. In addition this works when -- lock screen is on, allowing PNGs of other cards to be obtained. -- This is based on code by Ken Ray and Brian Yennie. function cardImage local tCurrentCardImage, tOldBuffer, tID put the alwaysBuffer of this stack into tOldBuffer set the alwaysBuffer of this stack to false set the alwaysBuffer of this stack to true put the windowID of this stack into wID put the pixMapID of this stack into pID if not ((pID is wID) or (pID is 0)) then create invisible image put the imagePixMapID of last image into tID set the imagePixMapID of last image to (the pixMapID of this stack) export last image to tCurrentCardImage as PNG set the imagePixMapID of last image to tID set the alwaysBuffer of this stack to tOldBuffer delete last image end if return tCurrentCardImage end cardImage If one tries making a variation of this that is more like imag007, then the stack should be checked to be among the lines of openStacks(). If this function is used as is to look at other stacks, then care must be made in setting the default stack and openStacks() can be checked then, too. In tinkering with this, one might ask whether the temporary image should be in the stack getting its portrait or in some utility stack. I suspect create invisible image will put it on this card, the one getting its picture taken. Is that good or bad? Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] new Mac software: GarageBand and iLife'04
On 1/8/04 10:40 PM, Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hard to tell much on the show floor with all the other activity around, but with all that the samples sounded good to my ears. If the loops really are intrument samples, then transposing them *should* affect the quality somewhat. You can't change the key and keep the same timbre. Commercial musical instruments that are based on samples typically use several samples per octave. Yes, my mistake, with transposing (not tempo changes) there would be some quality loss, but I would think the change in quality is probably not as overt as tweaking a simple five second audio clip. Out of curiosity, have you used Soundtrack and if so, what is your impression of that app? One thing they also told me was that there's no real mixing facility in GB; you can only affect some overall eq/filter settings for the entire set of tracks when exporting the final tune. Maybe the next version... Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Uh... yet Game Programming... or Is there a way to build tilemap graphics in Rev?
On Thursday, January 8, 2004, at 11:52 PM, Alex Rice wrote: Dar- why would you use a button instead of an image, if there is only 1 instance of a particular tile? Just curious about game dev advantages of buttons, other than the ability to kind of clone an image by referencing it. I was thinking of multiple instances for background. I (some time ago) saw Cold Stone (or something) and it was big on tiling little pictures to made a big world. A Myst or Manhole game might be fun, too. Different style. Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Uh... yet Game Programming... or Is there a way to buildtilemap graphics in
I once made a Role Playing game in metacard, back then I used a background (group) that had buttons sized 64x64 pixels filling the whole screen (ended up with over a hundred buttons). I programmed a scripting language that would save and load files which contained the icons and name/label of all the buttons, so in other words these files were the maps, each time i went to a new screen i would load a map which would create a whole new screen while only using a few tiles over and over again. Eventually i was able to load another map while still displaying part of the other map, this allowed for smooter scrolling. The name/label of the buttons were saved as if the game character was within a button and it had a special name it would look that name up in a list and do an action, usually something like 'load,map12,5,6 so if the game character walked into that button it would load the map file map12 and place the character at location 12,6. So you eventually end up programming your game with your own customized scripting language and not metacard/revoltion. This will work for most games, platform games are a step up in difficultly from the top-down ones, when i did a platform game i usually displayed a large graphic as the background and placed invisible buttons as ledges for the game character, the scrolling was much smoother and the game was more optimized as platformers require more speed than your typical top-down / isometric game. Cheers. Jeremy. _ E-mail just got a whole lot better. New ninemsn Premium. Click here http://ninemsn.com.au/premium/landing.asp ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Uh... yet Game Programming... or Is there a way to buildtilemap graphics in
As a follow up to the game development discussion, you can take a look at a small demo stack that illustrates the use of tiled buttons in a grid which reference common images. As stated earlier, the main benefit of this technique is low memory overhead needed for displaying a large image area. Paste the following in your message box: go url http://www.tactilemedia.com/download/tiletest.rev; I believe several folks on the list have already built some tiled environments. They may offer some additional guidance. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev Crash Again!
On 09 Jan 2004, at 07:39, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Message: 5 Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 23:17:08 -0700 From: Dar Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Rev Crash Again! To: How to use Revolution [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Thursday, January 8, 2004, at 07:34 PM, Wouter wrote: When in metacard a stacks pixmapIDits windowid then Dar's handler is working as a charm (here at least) From the TD on alwaysBuffer: You can find out whether a stack is currently being buffered by comparing its pixmapID property to its windowID property: if these two properties are not the same, the stack is buffered. From the imag007 tip at www.sonsothunder.com: -- The next two lines force the current card image into the offscreen buffer set the alwaysBuffer of stack pStackPath to false set the alwaysBuffer of stack pStackPath to true (My function only works on this stack, so this does not apply. Maybe.) If you want your crash with your this stack do the reverse because it sets a stacks pixmapID = its windowid (no buffering as you said) Maybe a good test to add to my function and to the imag007 tip is a check on the pixMapID and windowMapID. If they are the same generate an error and don't set the imagePixmapID. set the alwaysBuffer of stack pStackPath to false set the alwaysBuffer of stack pStackPath to true (If a stack is not in memory, I don't know if setting the alwaysBuffer does what we want. I haven't looked at that.) You have set the cantmodify of the stack to false before setting its alwaysbuffer to true otherwise t the stack will not be buffered Dar Scott WA ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Update a global when going to a stack as modal
Frank, This doesn't work because LINE 3 gets executed right after LINE 2, not after the dialog is closed (i.e. Revolution doesn't wait for the modal dialog to be closed before it executes LINE 3). Actually, that's exactly what Rev does. When you call modal stack, execution stops at that line until the modal dialog that was called is closed. I'm pretty sure open stack as modal does the same as modal stack, but if it *is* different, try modal stack instead (that's the one I'm used to). The approach you described of calling two separate handlers would be the way I would have done it in SuperCard; I'm glad Rev stops execution until you return from a modal dialog. :-) Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Ken, Modal command does NOT ALWAYS stop the execution. I have discovered this dual behavior way back with MetaCard 2.4.1 almost 2 years ago (see email from Scott below). I'd hoped this has been changed by now but apparently not. Fortunately, there is ways around this. Robert Brenstein Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 11:34:53 -0700 (MST) From: Scott Raney [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Robert Brenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: modal stacks A propos modal, I have observed and verified that the modal command does not always suspend execution of the current script. If the modal command is used to open a substack, the execution of the current script is suspended until the modal stack is closed. If my script first goes invisibly to the substack (to fill in some fields), then do modal, the script finishes executing and the modal stack shows up afterwards. Is this the expected behavior? Possibly. When you go to a stack, even if it's invisible, it's already opened, which will disrupt the behavior of modal. open inv is poor technique in MC anyway (it's only there as a SuperCard compatibility feature), as is setting up fields in one stack from another directly. Instead, do the init in a preOpenStack handler, and get the data in the dialog from a well known place (use the dialogData property if you don't already have such a place). Regards, Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
How to distinguish between multiple clones of a stack?
If I do a clone stack myStack Then a clone of the stack appears with the name Copy of myStack. If I then clone again I get *another* stack with the same name - Copy of myStack and same ID. How do I distinguish between them? Can I decide the cloned stack name myself? doug ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
A question about setting custom properties
It's a scope and identifier confusion question. Suppose I have a local variable thisVar. And suppose I want to set a property of that name in stack myStack. If I do: set the thisVar of stack myStack to thisVar then the *name* of the created property is the *value* of the local variable thisVar. Well, I guess my question isn't so much of a question as it is a caution. I guess that's just the way it is, right? doug ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev Crash Again! ... cardImage() function
On 09 Jan 2004, at 13:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Message: 5 Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 00:12:41 -0700 From: Dar Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Rev Crash Again! ... cardImage() function To: How to use Revolution [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Wednesday, January 7, 2004, at 10:00 PM, Dar Scott wrote: Here is my function: Here is a revision that handles the unusual case of the stack in defaultFolder not being open or otherwise not containing a valid value. -- Returns an image (PNG) of current card even if obscured -- or off screen. In addition this works when -- lock screen is on, allowing PNGs of other cards to be obtained. -- This is based on code by Ken Ray and Brian Yennie. function cardImage local tCurrentCardImage, tOldBuffer, tID put the alwaysBuffer of this stack into tOldBuffer set the alwaysBuffer of this stack to false set the alwaysBuffer of this stack to true put the windowID of this stack into wID put the pixMapID of this stack into pID if not ((pID is wID) or (pID is 0)) then create invisible image put the imagePixMapID of last image into tID set the imagePixMapID of last image to (the pixMapID of this stack) export last image to tCurrentCardImage as PNG set the imagePixMapID of last image to tID set the alwaysBuffer of this stack to tOldBuffer delete last image end if return tCurrentCardImage end cardImage If one tries making a variation of this that is more like imag007, then the stack should be checked to be among the lines of openStacks(). If this function is used as is to look at other stacks, then care must be made in setting the default stack and openStacks() can be checked then, too. In tinkering with this, one might ask whether the temporary image should be in the stack getting its portrait or in some utility stack. I suspect create invisible image will put it on this card, the one getting its picture taken. Is that good or bad? Dar Scott Here is a little change on that: = changed function cardImage theStack local tCurrentCardImage, tOldBuffer, tID put the alwaysBuffer of stack theStack into tOldBuffer put the cantmodify of stack theStack into tCMOldBuffer set the cantmodify of stack theStack to false set the alwaysBuffer of stack theStack to false set the alwaysBuffer of stack theStack to true put the windowID of stack theStack into wID put the pixMapID of stack theStack into pID if not ((pID is wID) or (pID is 0)) then create invisible image put the imagePixMapID of last image into tID set the imagePixMapID of last image to (the pixMapID of stack theStack) export last image to tCurrentCardImage as PNG set the imagePixMapID of last image to tID set the alwaysBuffer of stack theStack to false set the cantmodify of stack theStack to tCMOldBuffer delete last image end if return tCurrentCardImage end cardImage Greetings, WA ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Is a stack source code?
Dar Scott wrote: This export regulations stuff doesn't fit into my head very well. To your credit, sir! Score: Right Brain 1, Left Brain zip. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Uh... yet Game Programming... or Is there a way to build tilemap graphics in Rev?
I wrote a game that uses a rev app as a level editor. I used the same tilemap approach that is being discussed, with a grid of buttons which take on different images depending on what is being 'painted' on the level. There are close to 600 buttons in all and the speed is remarkable. Painting objects takes place in real time. Entire levels load in a few seconds on my 400 Mhz G4. I don't know about scrolling though.. Both the game and the level editor are available at: http://www.crystalpiersw.com There are both Macintosh and Windows versions, but you need to register to use the Macintosh world editor (soon to be changed). Windows users can already use the world editor without registering. I found that it is imperative for decent performance to NOT keep the information about what is in what position in the buttons themselves. For instance, to query what is in grid pos (2,4), you should NOT have to find the button at (2,4), and then access some custom property of that button (or the button's name or icon) to determine what occupies that grid spot. A much faster approach is to keep a behind-the-scenes field of what is where, each line representing a row of the grid and each item representing a column. When you need to find out what is at pos (2,4), inspect item 2 of line 4 of your field. Also, I found it helpful to keep a separate 'lookup' field of button ids, again each line representing a row of the grid and each item representing a column. When you need set the button's icon at (2,4), you can lookup the button's ID from item 2 of line 4 of your lookup field. Probably both these fields could be replaced by arrays (perhaps with a speed bonus?), but I have had some trouble with two dimensional arrays in the past and opted to steer clear. Abstracting the logic that keeps track of what is where in the level as well as giving the right icons to the right buttons into a 'brick wall' library was also helpful. From what I've seen I think a scrolling game could be feasible using the button-grid approach but speed would definately be a problem it it wasn't structured correctly. All game logic should take place 'behind the scenes' and should NOT depend on getting or storing information in the buttons themselves. Just my 2-sense. Good luck! Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Poor technique?
Robert Brenstein quoted Scott Raney: open inv is poor technique in MC anyway (it's only there as a SuperCard compatibility feature), as is setting up fields in one stack from another directly. Instead, do the init in a preOpenStack handler, and get the data in the dialog from a well known place (use the dialogData property if you don't already have such a place). Regards, Scott Why is setting up fields in one stack from another directly a worse technique than writing data to a global property and having the preOpenStack handler transfer the data to that stack? I can see that the latter might be convenient in some cases, but is there any important reason not to do the former? Similarly: is it in any way better to set custom properties of the second stack before opening it than to set the text of its fields before opening it? The ability to read and write to fields of unopened stacks is very powerful; Raney's remarks suggests there are some limits on how this should be used. Can anyone clarify this? David Epstein ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to distinguish between multiple clones of a stack?
Doug, From what I understand, this is not a good thing to do. FWIW you can clone a stack and then change the name and then set it to the mainStack Whatever and for that matter change it's size location and add scripts to it all via scripts. In fact my experience shows that this is preferred over the single line message box method. I experienced very weird behavior so switched to putting a script in my main stack temporarily to build clones and change them in one step. The big thing to watch out for is in the naming of the clones!! Do not use just numbers!! It will crash the stack and mess things up. I used a series of numbers to build substacks like 13i , 13ii etc based upon certain things and then one clone was 17 with on i in it and wham there came the crash and a substack that could not be deleted and caused the stack to not work. Luckily this list helped me and I had a back up. TOm On Jan 9, 2004, at 7:01 AM, Doug Lerner wrote: If I do a clone stack myStack Then a clone of the stack appears with the name Copy of myStack. If I then clone again I get *another* stack with the same name - Copy of myStack and same ID. How do I distinguish between them? Can I decide the cloned stack name myself? doug ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Macintosh PowerBook G-4 OSX 10.3.1, OS 9.2.2, 1.25 GHz, 512MB RAM, Rev 2.1.2 Advanced Media Group Thomas J McGrath III 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 220 Drake Road, Bethel Park, PA 15102 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: A question about setting custom properties
yeah, I hit that too, now i just: put the thisVar of stack myStack into myVar or put yada into myVar and then set the thisVar of stack myStack to myVar or set the thisVar of this stack to myVar tom On Jan 9, 2004, at 7:05 AM, Doug Lerner wrote: It's a scope and identifier confusion question. Suppose I have a local variable thisVar. And suppose I want to set a property of that name in stack myStack. If I do: set the thisVar of stack myStack to thisVar then the *name* of the created property is the *value* of the local variable thisVar. Well, I guess my question isn't so much of a question as it is a caution. I guess that's just the way it is, right? doug ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Macintosh PowerBook G-4 OSX 10.3.1, OS 9.2.2, 1.25 GHz, 512MB RAM, Rev 2.1.2 Advanced Media Group Thomas J McGrath III 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 220 Drake Road, Bethel Park, PA 15102 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
ODD open stack behavior
Hello list, I have a stack with hundreds of substacks. 'All of a sudden' when I open a substack via button; the substack opens and then goes away! i think it goes to the back? I have to push the button again. What can cause the substack to go to the back? I was using 'open stack mystack '. I now went and changed it to 'go to stack mystack '. (which is the same amount of chars if you include the spaces ;-) This did not fix it and it only happens once in a while. Should I be using a toplevel or something? Thank you all for my first successful distribution using REV. Tom Macintosh PowerBook G-4 OSX 10.3.1, OS 9.2.2, 1.25 GHz, 512MB RAM, Rev 2.1.2 Advanced Media Group Thomas J McGrath III 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 220 Drake Road, Bethel Park, PA 15102 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
An alternative to the one pixel editing of an image
An alternative to the one pixel editing of an image proposed by Scott Raney a while ago :^) (to keep the transparency of an image in this case) is the use of the export command. (works for me) export img imagename to aVar as PNG -- or RLE set the text of img imagename to aVar (don't forget to save) Greetings, WA ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: ODD open stack behavior
I've seen this technically absurd behavior opening HC stacks in MC. Checko ut the rect of the stack to see if it is not with negative numbers. If that's thec ase, it could be that the stack is reduced or hidden. Hope that helps, hope they fix it! Xavier On 09/01/2004 15:52:56 use-revolution-bounces wrote: Hello list, I have a stack with hundreds of substacks. 'All of a sudden' when I open a substack via button; the substack opens and then goes away! i think it goes to the back? I have to push the button again. What can cause the substack to go to the back? I was using 'open stack mystack '. I now went and changed it to 'go to stack mystack '. (which is the same amount of chars if you include the spaces ;-) This did not fix it and it only happens once in a while. Should I be using a toplevel or something? Thank you all for my first successful distribution using REV. Tom Macintosh PowerBook G-4 OSX 10.3.1, OS 9.2.2, 1.25 GHz, 512MB RAM, Rev 2.1.2 Advanced Media Group Thomas J McGrath III ? 2003 ?[EMAIL PROTECTED] 220 Drake Road, Bethel Park, PA 15102 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to distinguish between multiple clones of a stack?
So... Are you saying something like: 1. clone a stack 2. set the name of the stack to something unique 3. close the stack again and 4. set the name of the stack to something unique etc rather than leaving them all with the name Copy of stack thisStack? What about the fact that the ids are the same? doug On 1/9/04 11:30 PM, Thomas J McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doug, From what I understand, this is not a good thing to do. FWIW you can clone a stack and then change the name and then set it to the mainStack Whatever and for that matter change it's size location and add scripts to it all via scripts. In fact my experience shows that this is preferred over the single line message box method. I experienced very weird behavior so switched to putting a script in my main stack temporarily to build clones and change them in one step. The big thing to watch out for is in the naming of the clones!! Do not use just numbers!! It will crash the stack and mess things up. I used a series of numbers to build substacks like 13i , 13ii etc based upon certain things and then one clone was 17 with on i in it and wham there came the crash and a substack that could not be deleted and caused the stack to not work. Luckily this list helped me and I had a back up. TOm On Jan 9, 2004, at 7:01 AM, Doug Lerner wrote: If I do a clone stack myStack Then a clone of the stack appears with the name Copy of myStack. If I then clone again I get *another* stack with the same name - Copy of myStack and same ID. How do I distinguish between them? Can I decide the cloned stack name myself? doug ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Macintosh PowerBook G-4 OSX 10.3.1, OS 9.2.2, 1.25 GHz, 512MB RAM, Rev 2.1.2 Advanced Media Group Thomas J McGrath III 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 220 Drake Road, Bethel Park, PA 15102 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: ODD open stack behavior
Actually the substack shows up for a couple of milliseconds and then the main stack is all that can be seen. Once I hit the button again the window does come to the front. The size is 800x600 The rect is 240,132,1040,722 It does not appear that the substack is resizing but rather that it disappears or is being sent back to behind the main stack. Tom On Jan 9, 2004, at 10:02 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've seen this technically absurd behavior opening HC stacks in MC. Checko ut the rect of the stack to see if it is not with negative numbers. If that's thec ase, it could be that the stack is reduced or hidden. Hope that helps, hope they fix it! Xavier On 09/01/2004 15:52:56 use-revolution-bounces wrote: Hello list, I have a stack with hundreds of substacks. 'All of a sudden' when I open a substack via button; the substack opens and then goes away! i think it goes to the back? I have to push the button again. What can cause the substack to go to the back? I was using 'open stack mystack '. I now went and changed it to 'go to stack mystack '. (which is the same amount of chars if you include the spaces ;-) This did not fix it and it only happens once in a while. Should I be using a toplevel or something? Thank you all for my first successful distribution using REV. Tom Macintosh PowerBook G-4 OSX 10.3.1, OS 9.2.2, 1.25 GHz, 512MB RAM, Rev 2.1.2 Advanced Media Group Thomas J McGrath III ? 2003 ?[EMAIL PROTECTED] 220 Drake Road, Bethel Park, PA 15102 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Macintosh PowerBook G-4 OSX 10.3.1, OS 9.2.2, 1.25 GHz, 512MB RAM, Rev 2.1.2 Advanced Media Group Thomas J McGrath III 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 220 Drake Road, Bethel Park, PA 15102 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Cloning a stack as a substack of the main stack?
When I use the clone command as in clone stack myStack even though myStack is a substack of the main stack, the *cloned* stack is its own main stack - so it can't find the handlers in the real main stack. Does anybody know how to clone a substack so that it also is a substack? Thanks, doug ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Cloning a stack as a substack of the main stack?
Nevermind my previous message. I see you have to set the mainStack property for all new stacks. doug ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: ODD open stack behavior
Hi Thomas, Actually the substack shows up for a couple of milliseconds and then the main stack is all that can be seen. Once I hit the button again the window does come to the front. The size is 800x600 The rect is 240,132,1040,722 It does not appear that the substack is resizing but rather that it disappears or is being sent back to behind the main stack. Maybe there is something in the mainstack-script that could cause the mainstack to become toplevel again? Check the pre-/openstack scripts... Tom Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Cloning a stack as a substack of the main stack?
Hi Doug, When I use the clone command as in clone stack myStack even though myStack is a substack of the main stack, the *cloned* stack is its own main stack - so it can't find the handlers in the real main stack. Does anybody know how to clone a substack so that it also is a substack? Add another line: ... clone stack yourStack set the mainstack of it to yourMainStackHere ... ### IT will be: stack Copy of Stack yourStack Thanks, Hope that helps... doug Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to distinguish between multiple clones of a stack?
Actually, 1. clone the stack (via a script in a button etc.) 2. immediately rename that stack (then another copy can't be the same name) Now you have your main stack and another main stack. If you want the cloned stack to be apart of the main stack then do 3. if not you can close it or whatever you want or skip 3. and move on to 4. etc. 3. set the mainStack of cloned stack to MyMainStack This way there is no need to close the cloned stack and IDs are resolved via the IDE. This of course works only if you want the cloned stack to be a substack of the main stack. If not it should not matter because they are at this time completely different stacks so the IDs should not matter. I go the extra step and: 4. set the size of the cloned stack (now a substack) 5. set the position of the cloned stack 6. set the title of the cloned stack 7. set the name of the cloned stack 8. set any other things that need done. I do all of this before cloning another stack or substack and have no problems. Tom On Jan 9, 2004, at 10:06 AM, Doug Lerner wrote: So... Are you saying something like: 1. clone a stack 2. set the name of the stack to something unique 3. close the stack again and 4. set the name of the stack to something unique etc rather than leaving them all with the name Copy of stack thisStack? What about the fact that the ids are the same? doug On 1/9/04 11:30 PM, Thomas J McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doug, From what I understand, this is not a good thing to do. FWIW you can clone a stack and then change the name and then set it to the mainStack Whatever and for that matter change it's size location and add scripts to it all via scripts. In fact my experience shows that this is preferred over the single line message box method. I experienced very weird behavior so switched to putting a script in my main stack temporarily to build clones and change them in one step. The big thing to watch out for is in the naming of the clones!! Do not use just numbers!! It will crash the stack and mess things up. I used a series of numbers to build substacks like 13i , 13ii etc based upon certain things and then one clone was 17 with on i in it and wham there came the crash and a substack that could not be deleted and caused the stack to not work. Luckily this list helped me and I had a back up. TOm On Jan 9, 2004, at 7:01 AM, Doug Lerner wrote: If I do a clone stack myStack Then a clone of the stack appears with the name Copy of myStack. If I then clone again I get *another* stack with the same name - Copy of myStack and same ID. How do I distinguish between them? Can I decide the cloned stack name myself? doug ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Macintosh PowerBook G-4 OSX 10.3.1, OS 9.2.2, 1.25 GHz, 512MB RAM, Rev 2.1.2 Advanced Media Group Thomas J McGrath III 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 220 Drake Road, Bethel Park, PA 15102 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Macintosh PowerBook G-4 OSX 10.3.1, OS 9.2.2, 1.25 GHz, 512MB RAM, Rev 2.1.2 Advanced Media Group Thomas J McGrath III 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 220 Drake Road, Bethel Park, PA 15102 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: ODD open stack behavior
here's a trick a little preopenstack script like on preopenstack get the time pass openstack end preopenstack (do the same with preopencard just in case) debug the get the time line and trace to see if there is not another stack that is intercepting or overiding your open stack behavior... still hoping... Xavier On 09/01/2004 16:12:51 use-revolution-bounces wrote: Actually the substack shows up for a couple of milliseconds and then the main stack is all that can be seen. Once I hit the button again the window does come to the front. The size is 800x600 The rect is 240,132,1040,722 It does not appear that the substack is resizing but rather that it disappears or is being sent back to behind the main stack. Tom On Jan 9, 2004, at 10:02 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've seen this technically absurd behavior opening HC stacks in MC. Checko ut the rect of the stack to see if it is not with negative numbers. If that's thec ase, it could be that the stack is reduced or hidden. Hope that helps, hope they fix it! Xavier On 09/01/2004 15:52:56 use-revolution-bounces wrote: Hello list, I have a stack with hundreds of substacks. 'All of a sudden' when I open a substack via button; the substack opens and then goes away! i think it goes to the back? I have to push the button again. What can cause the substack to go to the back? I was using 'open stack mystack '. I now went and changed it to 'go to stack mystack '. (which is the same amount of chars if you include the spaces ;-) This did not fix it and it only happens once in a while. Should I be using a toplevel or something? Thank you all for my first successful distribution using REV. Tom Macintosh PowerBook G-4 OSX 10.3.1, OS 9.2.2, 1.25 GHz, 512MB RAM, Rev 2.1.2 Advanced Media Group Thomas J McGrath III ? 2003 ?[EMAIL PROTECTED] 220 Drake Road, Bethel Park, PA 15102 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Macintosh PowerBook G-4 OSX 10.3.1, OS 9.2.2, 1.25 GHz, 512MB RAM, Rev 2.1.2 Advanced Media Group Thomas J McGrath III ? 2003 ?[EMAIL PROTECTED] 220 Drake Road, Bethel Park, PA 15102 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Cloning a stack as a substack of the main stack?
immediately set the cloned stack's mainStack to the main stack - now it IS a part of the main stack - IDs are resolved - Names are not - so rename the cloned stack(now a substack) and you got it. Tom On Jan 9, 2004, at 10:14 AM, Doug Lerner wrote: When I use the clone command as in clone stack myStack even though myStack is a substack of the main stack, the *cloned* stack is its own main stack - so it can't find the handlers in the real main stack. Does anybody know how to clone a substack so that it also is a substack? Thanks, doug ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Macintosh PowerBook G-4 OSX 10.3.1, OS 9.2.2, 1.25 GHz, 512MB RAM, Rev 2.1.2 Advanced Media Group Thomas J McGrath III 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 220 Drake Road, Bethel Park, PA 15102 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: ODD open stack behavior
OK I will try that. Do you know how to check the script of each of my hundreds of substacks for an PreOpenStack, PreOpenCard and if so then add the code to it and if not than copy the code to that stack and card VIA scripting Thanks TOm On Jan 9, 2004, at 10:20 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: here's a trick a little preopenstack script like on preopenstack get the time pass openstack end preopenstack (do the same with preopencard just in case) debug the get the time line and trace to see if there is not another stack that is intercepting or overiding your open stack behavior... still hoping... Xavier On 09/01/2004 16:12:51 use-revolution-bounces wrote: Actually the substack shows up for a couple of milliseconds and then the main stack is all that can be seen. Once I hit the button again the window does come to the front. The size is 800x600 The rect is 240,132,1040,722 It does not appear that the substack is resizing but rather that it disappears or is being sent back to behind the main stack. Tom On Jan 9, 2004, at 10:02 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've seen this technically absurd behavior opening HC stacks in MC. Checko ut the rect of the stack to see if it is not with negative numbers. If that's thec ase, it could be that the stack is reduced or hidden. Hope that helps, hope they fix it! Xavier On 09/01/2004 15:52:56 use-revolution-bounces wrote: Hello list, I have a stack with hundreds of substacks. 'All of a sudden' when I open a substack via button; the substack opens and then goes away! i think it goes to the back? I have to push the button again. What can cause the substack to go to the back? I was using 'open stack mystack '. I now went and changed it to 'go to stack mystack '. (which is the same amount of chars if you include the spaces ;-) This did not fix it and it only happens once in a while. Should I be using a toplevel or something? Thank you all for my first successful distribution using REV. Tom Macintosh PowerBook G-4 OSX 10.3.1, OS 9.2.2, 1.25 GHz, 512MB RAM, Rev 2.1.2 Advanced Media Group Thomas J McGrath III ? 2003 ?[EMAIL PROTECTED] 220 Drake Road, Bethel Park, PA 15102 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Macintosh PowerBook G-4 OSX 10.3.1, OS 9.2.2, 1.25 GHz, 512MB RAM, Rev 2.1.2 Advanced Media Group Thomas J McGrath III ? 2003 ?[EMAIL PROTECTED] 220 Drake Road, Bethel Park, PA 15102 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Macintosh PowerBook G-4 OSX 10.3.1, OS 9.2.2, 1.25 GHz, 512MB RAM, Rev 2.1.2 Advanced Media Group Thomas J McGrath III 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 220 Drake Road, Bethel Park, PA 15102 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to distinguish between multiple clones of a stack?
If I do a clone stack myStack Then a clone of the stack appears with the name Copy of myStack. If I then clone again I get *another* stack with the same name - Copy of myStack and same ID. How do I distinguish between them? Can I decide the cloned stack name myself? doug Interesting. I just tried this out and it seems that the cloned stack has the same id as the original (and so do any further clones). Moreover, it contains the long name not the long id. But yes, in order to distinuguish clones, you need to rename each right after generating it. Robert ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
A couple of weird things with cloned stacks
(1) If I use the set mainStack command to cause cloned stacks to be a substack of the main stack it has the inconvenient side-effect of storing all the created cloned substacks in the main file when I save everything in the IDE. It's probably better to duplicate main stack handlers in the clone itself and leave it out of the mainstack. (2) If I use the set name command to change the name of the newly cloned stack, the Application Browser does not reflect the change. This is probably an Application Browser bug. doug ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Linux Filepath problem
Hello all! I'm developing on Mac OS9.2.2, RunRev2.0.3 for multiple platform distribution... One of the first things I do in my app (on openstack) is to: on openStack global warming -- :-) set the itemDelimiter to / put (item 1 to -2 of the effective filename of this stack)/ into line 26 of warming This puts the pathname into a global, which is used for MANY file functions (put blah into url...get url...etc) in my app. I've found it to be a handy way for me to look for various cfg files I've placed in the same folder with the app. If the user moves a cfg file out of the folder, I have a function that rebuilds it and puts it where it should be. So...on the mac and win...no problems. But on my Linux build, it puts ./ into the global. What gives here? Any Linux lovers know a work-around? Any special ways to use effective filename of this stack to get the explicit path name? Thanks for any assistance you can lend! Best Regards, Tim Ponn ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Linux dist build problem
Hello all! I'm developing with MacOS9.2.2, RunRev2.0.3 for multi-platform distribution... Apparently, one of my Linux beta sites reports that the app is not appearing as an executable. So...he manually sets that flag before he uses the app so that Linux will treat it properly. Any clues? Is this a distribution buider problem, or some setting that I've overlooked? I don't recall having this problem with 1.1.1, I think it just started with 2.0.3, although I'll be looking through previous versions of my app very quickly now :-[ Thanks in advance for your help! Best Regards, Tim Ponn ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Uh... yet Game Programming... or Is there a way to build tilemap graphics in Rev?
On Jan 9, 2004, at 5:53 AM, Dave Beck wrote: Also, I found it helpful to keep a separate 'lookup' field of button ids, again each line representing a row of the grid and each item representing a column. When you need set the button's icon at (2,4), you can lookup the button's ID from item 2 of line 4 of your lookup field. Probably both these fields could be replaced by arrays (perhaps with a speed bonus?), but I have had some trouble with two dimensional arrays in the past and opted to steer clear. I bet you could gain some speed by moving that field lookup into a custom property. Field accesses are slower than custom property accesses. You could continue to use item and line chunking instead of 2D arrays. It would be interesting to know if 2D arrays would be faster than item/line chunking. I am guessing not. Just my 2-sense. Good luck! Thanks for the info looking forward to checking out this Rev game. Alex Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Mindlube Software | http://mindlube.com what a waste of thumbs that are opposable to make machines that are disposable -Ani DiFranco ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] new Mac software: GarageBand and iLife'04
On Jan 8, 2004, at 11:52 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And isn't it true that newer Macs can't install OS9 even as a second startup disk? I am wondering the same thing. I have a newer G4-dual-800 Mac. I installed OS X without having OS 9 installed first. Later I failed utterly trying to install MacOS9 to use for Classic. Finally I just plugged into a LAN and copied a OS 9 folder from another Mac. Now OS 9 shows up in my Startup Disks... but I haven't needed to boot into it yet. Alex Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Mindlube Software | http://mindlube.com what a waste of thumbs that are opposable to make machines that are disposable -Ani DiFranco ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Full keyboard Access
I posted about the keyboard access on Windows showing up in my app. I turned on Keyboard access in OSX but it does not seem to work. Is there another thing that lets the Mac access the buttons like the Windows is? traversal is on Tom Macintosh PowerBook G-4 OSX 10.3.1, OS 9.2.2, 1.25 GHz, 512MB RAM, Rev 2.1.2 Advanced Media Group Thomas J McGrath III 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 220 Drake Road, Bethel Park, PA 15102 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Real time voice transmission
What if you had an internet game and you wanted participants to be able to talk to each other by voice over T1. It would not have to be the quality of full VOIP. It could even be simplex rather than duplex. This problem should be similar to broadcasting a web camera output, except you just want to send to a specific IP address. How could you do this using Rev? Thanks in advance for the use of all your clever brains. Thanks, Kirby ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Win98 loses path
Tom, The windows app acts like it is at the root level even though it is in a sub folder. I guess the autorun.inf makes the rev standalone 'think' it was launched at the root level even though it wasn't. I also guess that windows does not like the autorun.inf and the app it launches to be at the same level. So against my logic it works. I think you hit the nail on the head... in the dim recesses of my mind I remember something like this happening with autorun in earlier versions of Windows. Good catch! Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
stack diff tool?
Are there any diff like tools that I can compare stacks with - like say the altArchive numbered backup stacks, to see what changes were made between different versions? Alex Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Mindlube Software | http://mindlube.com what a waste of thumbs that are opposable to make machines that are disposable -Ani DiFranco ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Converting Hexadecimal in Binary
Hi developers, I use this handler to convert a jpg embedded in an Adobe Ilustrator file (version 6 or 7) as Hexadecimal data in a binary image within Runrev. But it takes so long. Comments to make this faster are welcome. on mouseUp put the ticks into zxc show img id 1088 put fld hexadecimal into asd replace return with empty in asd put numtochar(0) after qwe repeat until asd is empty put numtochar(baseconvert(char 1 to 2 of asd,16,10)) after qwe put numtochar(baseconvert(char 3 to 4 of asd,16,10)) after qwe put numtochar(baseconvert(char 5 to 6 of asd,16,10)) after qwe delete char 1 to 6 of asd put numtochar(0) after qwe end repeat delete last char of qwe put chartonum(char -4 of qwe),chartonum(char -3 of qwe),chartonum(char -2 of qwe),chartonum(char -1 of qwe) create img set the height of it to fld imgheight set the width of it to fld imgwidth set the imagedata of it to qwe hide img id 1088 put ((the ticks - zxc) / 60) seconds to create the binary imagedata from hexadecimal data end mouseUp I post this stack to download, so you could run the code with the hex data: http://geocities.com/capellan2000/hexadecimal_to_binary.gz Thanks in advance. al = Visit my site: http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/ Search the mail list: http://mindlube.com/cgi-bin/search-use-rev.cgi __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the Signing Bonus Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev Crash Again! ... cardImage() function
This thread should now be called : No rev crash again and metacard neither, or something :^)) On 09 Jan 2004, at 22:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Message: 10 Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 13:03:35 -0800 (PST) From: Alejandro Tejada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Rev Crash Again! ... cardImage() function To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii snip How did you call this function? I wrote in the message box the following get cardImage(Home) put it and the result is the binary PNG data in the message box and a temporal image that dissapears when I click on it. al Ok here is an example based on the idea of Jim to make thumbnails. But this are not real thumbnails, only resized images. To make a real thumbnail take a screenshot (import or export can both be used) from the produced image. 1. make list field named list 2. a btn to put the windows in fld list 3. a second btn with the following script: on mouseup put line (the hilitedline of fld list) of fld list into sname if sname is not in the windows then answer First update the window list exit to top end if if sname is not empty then put cardImage(sname) into a if there is not an img test then create invisible img set the name of last img to test end if if there is an img test then set the text of img test to a put the width of img test into x put the height of img test into y ### if a resizing is wanted you can do this for example ### adapt to your own needs if x y then put x div 100 into theFactor else put y div 100 into theFactor if theFactor 0 then set the width of img test to x div theFactor set the height of img test to y div theFactor end if show img test choose browse tool end mouseup = changed function cardImage theStack local tCurrentCardImage, tOldBuffer, tID put the alwaysBuffer of stack theStack into tOldBuffer put the cantmodify of stack theStack into tCMOldBuffer set the cantmodify of stack theStack to false set the alwaysBuffer of stack theStack to false set the alwaysBuffer of stack theStack to true put the windowID of stack theStack into wID put the pixMapID of stack theStack into pID if not ((pID is wID) or (pID is 0)) then create invisible image --put the imagePixMapID of last image into tID ### you can safely omit this line set the imagePixMapID of last image to (the pixMapID of stack theStack) export last image to tCurrentCardImage as PNG --set the imagePixMapID of last image to tID ### you can safely omit this line set the alwaysBuffer of stack theStack to false set the cantmodify of stack theStack to tCMOldBuffer delete last image else add your own error text here answer Sorry no deal, no picture data could be taken exit to metacard end if return tCurrentCardImage end cardImage Have fun WA. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev Crash Again! ... cardImage() function
On 09 Jan 2004, at 22:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Message: 9 Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 14:02:42 -0700 From: Dar Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Rev Crash Again! ... cardImage() function To: How to use Revolution [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Friday, January 9, 2004, at 05:10 AM, Wouter wrote: = changed function cardImage theStack local tCurrentCardImage, tOldBuffer, tID put the alwaysBuffer of stack theStack into tOldBuffer put the cantmodify of stack theStack into tCMOldBuffer set the cantmodify of stack theStack to false set the alwaysBuffer of stack theStack to false set the alwaysBuffer of stack theStack to true put the windowID of stack theStack into wID put the pixMapID of stack theStack into pID if not ((pID is wID) or (pID is 0)) then create invisible image -- put the imagePixMapID of last image into tID ### not really needed set the imagePixMapID of last image to (the pixMapID of stack theStack) export last image to tCurrentCardImage as PNG -- set the imagePixMapID of last image to tID set the alwaysBuffer of stack theStack to false set the cantmodify of stack theStack to tCMOldBuffer delete last image else answer No picture data could be obtained with Sorry exit to metacard end if return tCurrentCardImage end cardImage I like it! Maybe theStack can be made optional, too. If so, should it be defaultStack or topStack? Anybody have ideas on specifying the card? Dar Scott That depends on the application of this handler. Your choice :^) But anyway, the buggyness was ours. Though some more elaborate elucidation on this kind of things in the TD would not be a luxury. A happy man greeting, WA ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev Crash Again! ... cardImage() function
On Friday, January 9, 2004, at 01:59 PM, Jim Carwardine wrote: You guys are way beyond me. :-! I think I'll use another strategy to allow users to jump to a certain card. I always assume that I'm way beyond me, too. That is why I tend to package things like this into functions and then I can then think about the function and not the insides. Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev Crash Again! ... cardImage() function
on Fri, 9 Jan 2004 14:02:42 -0700 Dar Scott wrote: I like it! Maybe theStack can be made optional, too. If so, should it be defaultStack or topStack? Anybody have ideas on specifying the card? Look at these additions: In a button this handler calls the function: on mouseUp create img set the text of it to cardsImage(MyTestStack,5) end mouseUp where MyTestStack is the stack name and 5 is the card number. additions marked as -- function cardsImage theStack theCard -- local tCurrentCardImage, tOldBuffer, tID put the topstack into qwerty -- lock screen -- go to card theCard of stack thestack -- toplevel qwerty -- unlock screen-- put the alwaysBuffer of stack theStack into tOldBuffer put the cantmodify of stack theStack into tCMOldBuffer set the cantmodify of stack theStack to false set the alwaysBuffer of stack theStack to false set the alwaysBuffer of stack theStack to true put the windowID of stack theStack into wID put the pixMapID of stack theStack into pID if not ((pID is wID) or (pID is 0)) then create invisible image put the imagePixMapID of last image into tID set the imagePixMapID of last image to (the pixMapID of stack theStack) export last image to tCurrentCardImage as PNG set the imagePixMapID of last image to tID set the alwaysBuffer of stack theStack to false set the cantmodify of stack theStack to tCMOldBuffer delete last image end if return tCurrentCardImage end cardsImage al = Visit my site: http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/ Search the mail list: http://mindlube.com/cgi-bin/search-use-rev.cgi __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the Signing Bonus Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Real time voice transmission
On Friday, January 9, 2004, at 10:43 AM, Kirby Glad wrote: What if you had an internet game and you wanted participants to be able to talk to each other by voice over T1. It would not have to be the quality of full VOIP. It could even be simplex rather than duplex. This problem should be similar to broadcasting a web camera output, except you just want to send to a specific IP address. How could you do this using Rev? Unless you use some outside service, some form of sockets communication should work. If there are several games listening to the sound, then multicast would be great, but that is not supported in Revolution. Right now record and play are to files. That would create a delay and might not work well. It would be nice if sound input and output (as well as MIDI) could be open as a stream, in a manner much as sockets are used. I heard somebody mention connecting a player object to a QT stream. I don't know if that works well and even if it does, you still have the problem of setting up a server. Maybe there are external apps that can do this that can be controlled from within a Revolution application. And then there are externals... Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev Crash Again! ... cardImage() function
On Friday, January 9, 2004, at 04:26 PM, Alejandro Tejada wrote: function cardsImage theStack theCard -- local tCurrentCardImage, tOldBuffer, tID put the topstack into qwerty -- lock screen -- go to card theCard of stack thestack -- Should the body of this function go here? And then go back? toplevel qwerty -- Is this unlock screen-- put the alwaysBuffer of stack theStack into tOldBuffer put the cantmodify of stack theStack into tCMOldBuffer set the cantmodify of stack theStack to false set the alwaysBuffer of stack theStack to false set the alwaysBuffer of stack theStack to true put the windowID of stack theStack into wID put the pixMapID of stack theStack into pID if not ((pID is wID) or (pID is 0)) then create invisible image put the imagePixMapID of last image into tID set the imagePixMapID of last image to (the pixMapID of stack theStack) export last image to tCurrentCardImage as PNG set the imagePixMapID of last image to tID set the alwaysBuffer of stack theStack to false set the cantmodify of stack theStack to tCMOldBuffer delete last image end if return tCurrentCardImage end cardsImage Will all this restore defaultStack, too? If go to is used, then maybe the a function that calls the older smaller function might be used; the stack references in the body of this might not be needed. If go to goes to a card and the stack is already there, are there messages? Progress! Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: An alternative to the one pixel editing of an image
On Friday, January 9, 2004, at 08:01 AM, Wouter wrote: export img imagename to aVar as PNG -- or RLE set the text of img imagename to aVar RLE is not listed in the TD as an option. I see this: paint, JPEG, GIF, PNG On my setup, the paint format will generate PBM (P6). P6 is binary after the header. Is export as RLE an undocumented feature? Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 4, Issue 60
Hello, On 09 Jan 2004, at 22:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Message: 2 Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 12:35:50 -0500 From: Thomas J McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Full keyboard Access To: How to use Revolution [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed I posted about the keyboard access on Windows showing up in my app. I turned on Keyboard access in OSX but it does not seem to work. Is there another thing that lets the Mac access the buttons like the Windows is? traversal is on have a look in the TD at everything starting with accel or mnemonic Tom HTH, WA ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
cardImage() function
on Fri Jan 9 Dar Scott wrote: function cardsImage theStack theCard -- local tCurrentCardImage, tOldBuffer, tID put the topstack into qwerty -- lock screen -- go to card theCard of stack thestack -- Should the body of this function go here? And then go back? I don't remember any other way to go to a selected card in another stack. Notice that I suppose that the stack that you want to take the card image is not hidden, but if you prefers to hide that stack probably you could erase the lines that lock and unlock the screen. toplevel qwerty -- Is this unlock screen-- put the alwaysBuffer of stack theStack into tOldBuffer [snip] return tCurrentCardImage end cardsImage Will all this restore defaultStack, too? If go to is used, then maybe the a function that calls the older smaller function might be used; the stack references in the body of this might not be needed. If go to goes to a card and the stack is already there, are there messages? Yes, but using Lock Messages could stop them. al = Visit my site: http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/ Search the mail list: http://mindlube.com/cgi-bin/search-use-rev.cgi __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the Signing Bonus Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Converting Hexadecimal in Binary
on Fri Jan 9 13:58:09 EST 2004 Dar Scott wrote: Do these help? unhex(h) is the string equivalent of a hex sequence function unhex h return binaryEncode(H*,h) end unhex This function could help, but I was thinking about some way to convert this long hexadecimal string in an array or convert the repeat until empty to repeat for each. How much time does it takes in your machine to convert the data in an image? al = Visit my site: http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/ Search the mail list: http://mindlube.com/cgi-bin/search-use-rev.cgi __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the Signing Bonus Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Scrolling Cards
How do I change the size of the group. In the inspector, if I use the Size and Position section, I don't seem to be able to resize the group and get the scroll bar to work correctly. I created a long, narrow group that extends off the card and I loaded it with buttons. Exactly what part of the inspector do I use to shrink the group... or do I use a rev statement in the msg box? Jim on 12/17/03 1:49 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 12/16/03 6:32 PM, Jim Carwardine wrote: I¹m very new to Revolution and I have a question. I¹m designing a database that is relational in the sense that there are parent/child relationships between records that can go many levels deep. When I look at a parent record, I want to see all of the first level children of that record in a list. Each record has a number of fields I want to show. What I seem to be reading in the docs for Rev is that I can place a vertical scroll bar on the card that will allow the fields in the card to scroll, which is exactly what I want to do. Is that clear enough for someone to get me started? How do I do it? Jim The easiest way is to create a very tall card with enough space to lay out all your fields. The card can be taller than the screen if necessary. Then group all the fields and objects on the card. In the property inspector, set the group to have a vertical scrollbar. Then resize both the group and the stack window to be smaller than the card so that the scrollbar becomes active. If you set the size of the group to be the same size as the stack window, it will look just like a scrolling document. -- OYF is... Highly resourceful people working together. http://www.OwnYourFuture-net.com Own Your Future Consulting Services Limited, 1959 Upper Water Street, Suite 407, Halifax, Nova Scotia. B3J 3N2 Info Line: 902-823-2477, Phone: 902-823-2339. Fax: 902-823-2139 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Conceptual question about opening multiple windows of thesamekind
On 08 Jan 2004, at 12:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Message: 9 Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 19:31:50 +0900 From: Doug Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Conceptual question about opening multiple windows of the samekind To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII This is a basic conceptual question. I'm trying to decide how to proceed. Let's say I wanted to open multiple windows (stacks, not cards) of a certain type. Examples might be multiple drawing windows for a paint program. Or multiple chat windows for different chat rooms. What concepts should I be looking at? Templates? Groups and background attributes? Cloning? For example, let's say I already have one window/stack that is working as I like. But maybe I want more than than that one window, with some different settings, opened up. Should I clone that stack and then delete it when done? Is there a better approach? I know the question is sort of vague, but I am looking for a general conceptual pointer or best practices suggestion rather than a cookbook total answer at this stage. Thanks! Doug Lerner, Tokyo Hi, Have a real good look at Klaus Major's Analyze_It stack. You will discover a beauty. Greetings, WA ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Scrolling Cards
Figured it out... Jim on 1/9/04 9:13 PM, Jim Carwardine wrote: How do I change the size of the group. In the inspector, if I use the Size and Position section, I don't seem to be able to resize the group and get the scroll bar to work correctly. I created a long, narrow group that extends off the card and I loaded it with buttons. Exactly what part of the inspector do I use to shrink the group... or do I use a rev statement in the msg box? Jim on 12/17/03 1:49 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 12/16/03 6:32 PM, Jim Carwardine wrote: I¹m very new to Revolution and I have a question. I¹m designing a database that is relational in the sense that there are parent/child relationships between records that can go many levels deep. When I look at a parent record, I want to see all of the first level children of that record in a list. Each record has a number of fields I want to show. What I seem to be reading in the docs for Rev is that I can place a vertical scroll bar on the card that will allow the fields in the card to scroll, which is exactly what I want to do. Is that clear enough for someone to get me started? How do I do it? Jim The easiest way is to create a very tall card with enough space to lay out all your fields. The card can be taller than the screen if necessary. Then group all the fields and objects on the card. In the property inspector, set the group to have a vertical scrollbar. Then resize both the group and the stack window to be smaller than the card so that the scrollbar becomes active. If you set the size of the group to be the same size as the stack window, it will look just like a scrolling document. -- OYF is... Highly resourceful people working together. http://www.OwnYourFuture-net.com Own Your Future Consulting Services Limited, 1959 Upper Water Street, Suite 407, Halifax, Nova Scotia. B3J 3N2 Info Line: 902-823-2477, Phone: 902-823-2339. Fax: 902-823-2139 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Setting custom properties for a newly cloned stack
What is the best way, timing-wise, to set the custom properties of a newly cloned stack. I (stupidly) tried clone stack myStack set the myProperty of Copy of myStack to 123 But... if in the openStack handler of the cloned stack I need to make immediate use of that property it seems it is too late. The clone command opens up the stack *first*, right? Then *after that* the set command runs. So how to best set custom properties in the cloned stack if they need to be used during the openStack handler? Global variables? doug ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
problems pasting text into the IDE (mac os x)
I work in MS Excel extensively, copy pasting text between it and Revolution. I experience problems with the Rev IDE when I copy-paste text from MS Excel into the IDE, on OS X. Like: - script won't compile - find and replace dialog won't find correctly - answer dialog won't properly display text stored in a custom property clipboard() just says text. But most fields in the IDE seem to be perfectly happy to accept extended or control characters in a copy-paste operation, but that causes trouble later on. What makes me think it's a bug with Rev: If I delete the pasted text in the IDE, and then type the same text directly into the IDE, then the problems go away. Also if I paste the same text from Excel into Emacs, or into TextEdit.app, no control characters or extended characters are shown. So even if Excel *is* putting weird characters into the pasteboard, shouldn't Rev be able to deal with it? Are there any 3rd party apps I can use to clean up the text of what's on the clipboard. I guess I could write a smart pasteKey handler and try to insert it into the message path before the IDE's pasteKey handler, but what a pain to track this down. Alex Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Mindlube Software | http://mindlube.com what a waste of thumbs that are opposable to make machines that are disposable -Ani DiFranco ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: dotted lines in windows around back layer button
For Mac OS X you can turn on full keyboard navigation in the System Preferences. In OS X.3 it is under Keyboard Mouse - Keyboard Shortcuts - Turn on full keyboard access. I use this all of the time for navigating dialog boxes. I haven't ever tested it with Rev apps though. That's very cool, Trevor! I didn't even know that Macs could do that now... sweet! Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
