Re: Three stage checkbox?

[Dar Scott]

On Monday, February 2, 2004, at 11:47 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote:

4.  Some way to use the icon, highlight icon and visited icon 
settings without changing them?

This one looks interesting. I'll see if anyone comes up with a Mac 
answer overnight, otherwise I'll try this.
If the user cannot go back to the not-set-yet-state, you might be able 
to take advantage of that.

Maybe something like this:

iconunknown
visited unchecked
highlight   checked
Dar

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Re: Three stage checkbox?

[Sarah Reichelt]

On 3 Feb 2004, at 4:37 pm, Dar Scott wrote:

4.  Some way to use the icon, highlight icon and visited icon settings 
without changing them?

This one looks interesting. I'll see if anyone comes up with a Mac 
answer overnight, otherwise I'll try this.

Thanks,
Sarah
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Re: Three stage checkbox?

[Dar Scott]

On Monday, February 2, 2004, at 11:13 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote:

I'm just lazy :-)
Now, that I understand.

You can have a custom property of the button or group that has just the 
state value you want.

All of my ideas involve a little bit of work, but they should be 
reusable:

1.  Switch Icon IDs (as you suggested)

2.  Group a rectangle and some lines

3.  Three frame animated gif

4.  Some way to use the icon, highlight icon and visited icon settings 
without changing them?

5.  Group of three images

6.  Checkbox and image or rectangle in group

All this will look very silly if somebody mentions just the thing you 
want.

Dar

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Re: Player FileName from Loaded URL

[Trevor DeVore]

On Feb 2, 2004, at 11:12 PM, Scott Rossi wrote:
...
I know I could write out the audio file to the drive, but I'd like to  
avoid
cluttering the user's drive with downloaded files. And even though I  
could
set the fileName of player directly to the Web-based address, there's  
no way
to then track the download progress of the audio file, as far as I can  
tell.
If you are using QT then you can track the download status of a file in  
a player using my Enhanced QT external.  There is function call  
qtGetMaxLoadedTimeInMovie  


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RE: Application Generators

[Monte Goulding]

> Hi,
> I was curious if anyone can offer general feedback about this topic and
> also about using Revolution for this purpose.
>
> Application generators or 'Consumer Authoring Products' can be produced
> for a wide variety of applications such as eBook Builders, Music/Video
> Wrappers,Secure/Private User Spaces,Portfolio Presentations and so on.
> These Consumer Authoring Products should 'generate' complete
> applications, like Revolution itself,  but are much easier to use than a
> general purpose authoring tool.  More like a Wizard Interface to quickly
> step through the stages until an application is generated.
>
> So I wonder if/how Rev can go about making " lite " version clones of
> itself with only a strict set of functions for a defined purpose (eBook
> Creator, Media Wrapper).  And I assume there may be some licensing
> issues, depedning on how it is done ??
> Not sure.  ie. cloneRevolution app makes special-purpose and
> cross-plaform executable applications... This is allowed, yes?
>
> I would like to build a MediaWrapper and then later consider letting
> others use the wrapper under certain terms and conditions etc...

Rev would be well suited to this purpose. Where you start running into
licensing issues is with scripting but you don't really need that for the
kind of apps you've suggested.

Cheers

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remote accell

[hershrev]

Hi all,
I built a database solution (postgres) I can't connect from a different 
computer. The fire wall is off. The DB is situated on a Mac OS 10.2.9
Thanks hershrev

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Application Generators

[michael]

Hi,
I was curious if anyone can offer general feedback about this topic and 
also about using Revolution for this purpose.

Application generators or 'Consumer Authoring Products' can be produced 
for a wide variety of applications such as eBook Builders, Music/Video 
Wrappers,Secure/Private User Spaces,Portfolio Presentations and so on. 
These Consumer Authoring Products should 'generate' complete 
applications, like Revolution itself,  but are much easier to use than a 
general purpose authoring tool.  More like a Wizard Interface to quickly 
step through the stages until an application is generated.

So I wonder if/how Rev can go about making " lite " version clones of 
itself with only a strict set of functions for a defined purpose (eBook 
Creator, Media Wrapper).  And I assume there may be some licensing 
issues, depedning on how it is done ??
Not sure.  ie. cloneRevolution app makes special-purpose and 
cross-plaform executable applications... This is allowed, yes?

I would like to build a MediaWrapper and then later consider letting 
others use the wrapper under certain terms and conditions etc...
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Player FileName from Loaded URL

[Scott Rossi]

[I asked a question similar to the following in the past without a
definitive answer so I thought I'd try again to see if there's any new
insight :-) ]

Is it possible to set the fileName of a player to a loaded URL?

I have script which loads the URL of an audio file into the local cache.
But if I try to set the fileName of a player to the loaded URL, the result
reads "could not open movie file".  This technique works with stacks but
apparently not with other file types.  Is it even possible to access the
local cache directly when the loaded file is something other than a stack?

I know I could write out the audio file to the drive, but I'd like to avoid
cluttering the user's drive with downloaded files. And even though I could
set the fileName of player directly to the Web-based address, there's no way
to then track the download progress of the audio file, as far as I can tell.

Any suggestions?

Thanks & Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Development & Design
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Re: Three stage checkbox?

[Sarah Reichelt]

On 3 Feb 2004, at 4:07 pm, Dar Scott wrote:

On Monday, February 2, 2004, at 10:37 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote:

Failing this, I guess I'll have to use normal buttons and switch 
their icons instead, but a series of checkboxes is much easier to 
read & > set.
But if you have the right pictures, won't these look exactly like the 
checkboxes you want?  Do these do things that you don't want, like 
move or highlight or something?
I'm just lazy :-) I know what I want is available in the Mac interface, 
so I don't see why I should bother to re-create it. I also find it 
conceptually simpler to check for "the hilite = true" or "the hilite = 
mixed" rather than "the icon = 12345".

Cheers,
Sarah
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Re: Three stage checkbox?

[Dar Scott]

On Monday, February 2, 2004, at 10:37 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote:

Failing this, I guess I'll have to use normal buttons and switch their 
icons instead, but a series of checkboxes is much easier to read & > set.
But if you have the right pictures, won't these look exactly like the 
checkboxes you want?  Do these do things that you don't want, like move 
or highlight or something?

Dar

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Re: no such object

[hershrev]

Thanks a million, beautiful, works good. The last one I didn't 
understand .
On Monday, February 2, 2004, at 04:11 PM, Jan Schenkel wrote:

--- hershrev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I got that but the Ip add varies from time to time.
Is there a way to
send a message in a stack from a different stack ?
Thanks hershrev
Yes there is, and the command is called 'send' :
--
  send "someMessage" to stack "Foobar"
--
But if you're trying to trigger a handler in your
mainstack, you may as well just use the handlername --
the message path goes through the mainstack.
So in your case, you could add a handler to your
mainstack script :
--
on UpdateDB_IPAddress pNewAddress
  put pNewAddress into field "IPAddress" of me
end UpdateDB_IPAddress
--
And then from any of your substacks, you can do
something like :
--
  UpdateDB_IPAddress "the.new.host"
--
Hope this helped,

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Three stage checkbox?

[Sarah Reichelt]

Hi All,

I have a need for a three-stage checkbox, in my case signifying 
"Definite yes", "Definite no" and "Don't know yet". This needs to run 
on Macs only (OS 9 & X). I know that on Macs, you can have a checkbox 
that is either empty, ticked or has a line through it. If I could get 
those three options, I'd be fine but does anyone know how?

Failing this, I guess I'll have to use normal buttons and switch their 
icons instead, but a series of checkboxes is much easier to read & set.

TIA,
Sarah
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Re: Setting Stack's Location

[Sarah Reichelt]

You'll need to check out the globalLoc function. If you just set the 
loc of stack xxx to the loc of image yyy then it will be set relative 
to the top left of the screen instead of the top left of the main stack 
window.
Something like this:

on moveStack
  set the loc of stack "Sub" to globalLoc(the loc of image 1)
end moveStack
will work, but it doesn't move as you move the stack, it moves in a 
jump when you have finished. To get around this, you may have to remove 
the title bar from your main stack and write a custom move handler that 
records the mouseDown, follows the mouseMove and then stops moving on 
mouseUp.

I wrote an article in revJournal in December that analyzed Klaus 
Major's Xmas tree stack. It uses this technique for moving the stack 
around, so you might find it worth your while to check it out:
http://www.revjournal.com/comments.php?id=P64_0_1_0

Cheers,
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On 3 Feb 2004, at 2:18 pm, Bojsza wrote:

It seems that this should be fairly easy ...I am trying to set a small 
sized stack at the location of an image of another stack that is much 
larger. I want the smaller stack to act as if it was an object of the 
larger stack (maintaining its position if the larger stack is moved, 
always on top of the larger stack etc).

Is there a "proper" way to approach this?

thanks,

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Re: What does the IDE know that the standalone doesn't know?

[Alex Rice]

On Feb 2, 2004, at 7:33 PM, Doug Lerner wrote:

This is a hard one to debug, because it works just fine in the IDE. 
But it
doesn't in the standalone. Both OS X.

In the IDE, I grab a video frame and create an image in a stack 
containing
that frame. Works just fine.

But in the standalone app, just a white image appears.

I am including the video library ("other") and the video grabber window
itself works just fine in the standalone app.
Are there any general guidelines about what the IDE environment knows 
vs
what the standalone app knows that might help debug something like 
this?
One thing that we run into as Rev developers is that the Rev IDE is not 
really a discrete, separate app compared with the app under 
development. This results in weird stuff where the IDE like "go 
previous" opening up an IDE stack window instead of your app's stack 
window. Or the IDE asking you if you want to save some stack that is 
part of the IDE and not part of your app. Aside from this nebulous and 
annoying problem, here are some things that come to mind:

- the "startup" handler is not called in the development environment, 
but is called in a standalone.

- standalones have no error handling (see docs re: errorDialog message)

- IDE has all of the xml, database, video, etc. libraries already 
available, ready to go, but in standalones you have to arrange it 
yourself either through the distribution builder or through "the 
externals" property or "start using" for library stacks.

I haven't used the videograbber tools at all so can't offer any ideas 
on that.

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Re: List etiquette suggestion

[Mark Wieder]

Bruce-

Saturday, January 31, 2004, 8:43:47 PM, you wrote:

BR> I thought that destroyed digest readers ability to parse messages and was
BR> distincly NOT reommended.

Hmmm - haven't heard this one before. Not that it seems to affect
MIME-encoded digests on any lists that I subscribe to. In fact, it is
the *preferred* method of trimming signatures on most. Sounds muchly
like an urban legend to me.

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Re: List etiquette suggestion [almost a flame]

[Mark Wieder]

Richard-

Sunday, February 1, 2004, 9:41:06 PM, you wrote:

>> i'll go back to the "pen and
>> paper" world that i spewed forth from ;-)

RG> Please don't, or we'd have no libSMTP or other cool tools from your presence
RG> in the ether. :)

We would, but we'd have to peel them off and stick them on the
envelopes ourselves, and the rates would go up every 18 months... 

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Re: What does the IDE know that the standalone doesn't know?

[Doug Lerner]

Well, I stumbled upon the error in my script causing the problem and patched
it. I still don't know why the IDE was showing a different value. The value
in the standalone app was actually correct, though.

doug

On 2/3/04 11:33 AM, "Doug Lerner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> This is a hard one to debug, because it works just fine in the IDE. But it
> doesn't in the standalone. Both OS X.
> 
> In the IDE, I grab a video frame and create an image in a stack containing
> that frame. Works just fine.
> 
> But in the standalone app, just a white image appears.
> 
> I am including the video library ("other") and the video grabber window
> itself works just fine in the standalone app.
> 
> Are there any general guidelines about what the IDE environment knows vs
> what the standalone app knows that might help debug something like this?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> doug
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Re: Setting Stack's Location

[Doug Lerner]

You can create a "moveStack" handler. In the handler, change the position of
the other stack.

doug

On 2/3/04 1:16 PM, "Bojsza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> It seems that this should be fairly easy ...I am trying to set a small
> sized stack at the location of an image of another stack that is much
> larger. I want the smaller stack to act as if it was an object of the
> larger stack (maintaining its position if the larger stack is moved,
> always on top of the larger stack etc).
> 
> Is there a "proper" way to approach this?
> 
> thanks,
> 
> Glen
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Setting Stack's Location

[Bojsza]

It seems that this should be fairly easy ...I am trying to set a small 
sized stack at the location of an image of another stack that is much 
larger. I want the smaller stack to act as if it was an object of the 
larger stack (maintaining its position if the larger stack is moved, 
always on top of the larger stack etc).

Is there a "proper" way to approach this?

thanks,

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Re: Quicktime in Windows: best way to go?

[erik hansen]

--- michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I thought flash player was not the greatest for
> showing video.  Maybe is 
> is better now.
> Generally speaking, VideoLAN
> (http://www.videolan.org/) is probably the 
> best cross-platform opensource media player out
> there.  I have always 
> preferred Quicktime player and format over
> other usual suspects.

thank you.

to clarify:
when you go into a public school computer lab
you will find PC's with Windows.
to play video or MIDI files you must
1. use something universally installed.
2. ask the lab to pay more money
3. use something that is freeware

what applies to education is close to what
applies to games and business presentations.

not arcane or OT.

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Re: Quicktime in Windows: best way to go?

[erik hansen]

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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Quicktime is a good solution for cross platform
> apps
> *IF* you dont need Linux
> *IF* your users have administrative rights on
> their computer (Quicktime is 
> not installed by default on Windows computers)
> *IF* Apple do not change his license policy of
> Quicktime suddenly (already 
> happens few years ago)
> 
> I used Quicktime for Windows apps succesfully
> for Point of Informations, 
> but i had nightmares with widely distributed
> CD-ROM because my end-users 
> didn't know how to install Quicktime, or where
> not allowed to do it or 
> there was some failure in the installation
> process.
> 
> For windows only apps DirectX is a much better
> solution, but unfortunately 
> not supported yet by revolution.
> 
> It would be very fine if Revolution could
> support natively the Flash 
> Player, because the flash player displays very
> well sounds, vector graphic 
> animation and digital video and is avalaible on
> Mac, Windows and Linux.

merci, Claude

y Windows Media... c'est a dire...
the one that is usually bundles with Windows!
vous aimez ca aussi?

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Has anyone ever used the iconifyStack and unIconifyStack

[Thomas McGrath III]

Hello all,

If anyone has worked with these before than can you help me?

I can't get the behavior I need. I have a main stack and a few 
substacks.

I want the main stack and it's substacks to minimize when one of them 
is minimized.
The user may minimize either the main stack and then it's substacks 
that are open will minimize OR they may minimize a substack and the 
main stack & other substacks will minimize.

I can't seem to figure it out.
1. the dock shows multiple stacks minimized. Any way around that?
2. the iconifyStack message does not send ?? in 30 mills
3. the uniconifyStack does not send to the other minimized stacks
4. the system seems to hang up and I have to force quit.
I have the stacks set to minimize, title.
This script is in my main Stack:
on iconifyStack
  put the openStacks into myopenstacks
  repeat with v = 1 to (the num lines in myopenstacks)
send iconifyStack to stack (line v in myopenstacks) in 30 
milliseconds
  end repeat
  set the backdrop to none
end iconifyStack

on unIconifyStack
  put the openstacks into myopenstacks
  repeat with b = 1 to (the num lines in myopenstacks)
send unIconifyStack to stack (line b in myopenstacks) in 30 
milliseconds
  end repeat
end unIconifyStack

Do I need to pass the iconifyStack and unIconifyStack messages?
Or what else should I be doing?
Thank you listees,

Tom



Macintosh PowerBook G-4 OSX 10.3.1, OS 9.2.2, 1.25 GHz, 512MB RAM, Rev 
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What does the IDE know that the standalone doesn't know?

[Doug Lerner]

This is a hard one to debug, because it works just fine in the IDE. But it
doesn't in the standalone. Both OS X.

In the IDE, I grab a video frame and create an image in a stack containing
that frame. Works just fine.

But in the standalone app, just a white image appears.

I am including the video library ("other") and the video grabber window
itself works just fine in the standalone app.

Are there any general guidelines about what the IDE environment knows vs
what the standalone app knows that might help debug something like this?

Thanks,

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Re: importing and playing audioClips in a stack (Andrea George)

[Thomas McGrath III]

Actually my stack makes a weird noise if the path is broken to my sound 
file. SO you probably have a bad path.

Try the whole path to the sound file.

Tom

On Feb 2, 2004, at 7:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I am trying to import an audioClip into my Revolution stack that has 
been saved onto the hard drive.  I then tried to import this audioClip 
into my stack, but I am not sure if I am doing it correctly.  The 
following is what I typed in:

import audioClip from file 
"/Users/Shared/audioClips/UnchangedMelody.aiff"

This is not working and I have followed the steps I found in 
Revolution's Documentation.  Then I created a “Play” button and I have 
written the following in the button’s script:

on mouseClick
  play audioClip "UnchangedMelody" looping
end mouseClick
This is trying to work, but something is stopping it.  It will make a 
noise and repeats the noise, but it fails to play the song.

I have read a lot of the documentation that Revolution offers, however 
I am not finding it to be very informative.  I followed the directions 
I have found, but I am unable to get anything to work.  What is it 
that I am doing wrong?  How do you import an audioClip into your 
stacks?  Is there anyone who could assist me on this matter? 
 
Also, where can I find more documentation (besides what Revolution 
offers) or examples on the Internet to use as a guide when creating 
stacks (audioClip related, etc.)?

Thank You,

Andrea George

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Re: exit preOpenCard

[Brian Yennie]

This does seem odd and possibly a bug. For the sake of a workaround, is 
there a reason that you need to call exit?
You may have more to your handler, but if you do something like:

on preOpenStack
  if checkValue() then
go next card
  else
  end if
  ## don't put anything here
end preOpenStack
Then preOpenStack should just exit normally, no?

go next cd
exit preOpenCard
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Re: importing and playing audioClips in a stack (Andrea George)

[Thomas McGrath III]

 put "/users/Shared/audioClips/UnchangedMelody.aiff" into lmyPath

 play audioClip lmyPath

To test put

put lmyPath -- and see if it is in there

Is the path correct?

HTH

Tom

On Feb 2, 2004, at 7:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I am trying to import an audioClip into my Revolution stack that has 
been saved onto the hard drive.  I then tried to import this audioClip 
into my stack, but I am not sure if I am doing it correctly.  The 
following is what I typed in:

import audioClip from file 
"/Users/Shared/audioClips/UnchangedMelody.aiff"

This is not working and I have followed the steps I found in 
Revolution's Documentation.  Then I created a “Play” button and I have 
written the following in the button’s script:

on mouseClick
  play audioClip "UnchangedMelody" looping
end mouseClick
This is trying to work, but something is stopping it.  It will make a 
noise and repeats the noise, but it fails to play the song.

I have read a lot of the documentation that Revolution offers, however 
I am not finding it to be very informative.  I followed the directions 
I have found, but I am unable to get anything to work.  What is it 
that I am doing wrong?  How do you import an audioClip into your 
stacks?  Is there anyone who could assist me on this matter? 
 
Also, where can I find more documentation (besides what Revolution 
offers) or examples on the Internet to use as a guide when creating 
stacks (audioClip related, etc.)?

Thank You,

Andrea George

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Re: Where to put externals and stacks in OS X bundles?

[Sarah Reichelt]

I don't know about externals, but I have stacks in the MacOS folder 
along with the Revolution file that is the actual app. The icons are in 
the Resources folder. I guess for externals, it doesn't really matter 
where you put them so long as you know where they are so you can point 
your app towards them, so a separate folder seems a neat arrangement.

Cheers,
Sarah
On 3 Feb 2004, at 9:41 am, Dar Scott wrote:

I _think_ this is where externals and stacks go in an OS X application 
bundle, but I'm not sure:

myApp.app
Contents
MacOS
myApp
toolX
toolY
toolZ
Resources
libStack1.rev
libStack2.rev
libStack3.rev
PlugIns
externalA.bundle
externalB.bundle
externalB.bundle
Is this right?

Stacks and externals might be exceptional in some way.

Now what about externals used by the library stacks?  Where do they go?

Dar Scott

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importing and playing audioClips in a stack (Andrea George)

[geor9230]

I am trying to import an audioClip into my Revolution stack that has been saved onto 
the hard drive.  I then tried to import this audioClip into my stack, but I am not 
sure if I am doing it correctly.  The following is what I typed in:

import audioClip from file "/Users/Shared/audioClips/UnchangedMelody.aiff"

This is not working and I have followed the steps I found in Revolution's 
Documentation.  Then I created a “Play” button and I have written the following in the 
button’s script:

on mouseClick
  play audioClip "UnchangedMelody" looping
end mouseClick

This is trying to work, but something is stopping it.  It will make a noise and 
repeats the noise, but it fails to play the song.

I have read a lot of the documentation that Revolution offers, however I am not 
finding it to be very informative.  I followed the directions I have found, but I am 
unable to get anything to work.  What is it that I am doing wrong?  How do you import 
an audioClip into your stacks?  Is there anyone who could assist me on this matter?  
 
Also, where can I find more documentation (besides what Revolution offers) or examples 
on the Internet to use as a guide when creating stacks (audioClip related, etc.)?
 
Thank You,

Andrea George

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Re: exit preOpenCard

[Robert Brenstein]

Here's my problem.  I'm checking for a certain value in a preOpenCard
handler.  If the value is false, I want to exit that preOpenCard and go to
the next card.  Problem is if I have
go next cd
exit preOpenCard
the preOpenCard of the next card exits, not the first one.  Hopefully this
makes sense.  Is there anyway I can exit the first preOpenCard and go to the
next card creating a problem like this?  I tried putting in a line after go
next cd that is "wait 500 millisecs with messages", but that only works
sometimes.  Thanks.
Chris Sheffield
Software Development
Read Naturally
check the dynamicPaths setting. if it is false, then you might have hit a bug.

what happens if you pass preopenstack instead of exit preopenstack? 
does the preopenstack on the next card is called? may be you can call 
it explicitely.

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Re: The card is grey on printing!!

[Gardner, Joseph A]

Jan, thanks for the info. Yes, this is happening in the IDE. I haven't built a 
stand-alone and tested yet, but I suspect the same thing would happen. I guess it's 
off to Bugzilla. ;)

Is there a way to apply the "Print" command to just a field? In my developing, I 
couldn't find a solution to this, which is why I went with "revPrintField". Any advice 
would be most welcome.

Dave, I'll give your suggestion a shot, but I think you're right about the difference 
between printing a card and a field. Really appreciate the input!

Thanks for all the help!

joe.

---

Dave said:

I had this same problem, but solved it by going to the colors and patterns
in the card inspector.  I clicked on the square for background in the
'color column', chose crayons from the list and snow from the color
choices.  After that the grey was gone from the card.  This situation may
be a little different in that I was printing cards, not fields.
Dave


Jan said:

The answer I gave should work for those cases when
you're using the 'print' command.
Your case involves the revPrintField command, where
you don't have control over the stack that is used for
printing.

A few questions :
- does this happen in the IDE or only in standalones ?
- if only in standalones, have you let the
distribution builder apply the default colours ?

If it also happens in the IDE, a trip to bugzilla is
in order, I think :-)



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[OT] apology to Jim Carwardine

[Mathewson]

Please acceptmy apologies for having spelt your name
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Re: exit preOpenCard

[Dar Scott]

On Monday, February 2, 2004, at 04:42 PM, Dave Cragg wrote:

Something like this, perhaps: (untested)

send "gonext" to me in 50 milliseconds
exit preOpenCard
  on gonext
 go next card
  end gonext
I was guessing something similar.  This might work, too:

send "go next card" to me in 50 milliseconds.

Maybe a 'lock screen' is needed in there, too.  Or maybe lock screen 
here and make the test & send in openCard to make sure the 'go' is 
always after openCard.

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Mac Classic version of my MetaCard Attack

[Mathewson]

Well, Mr CawardineI merely state that I have only run
this under Mac OS X... but as far as I have been able to
tell all MetaCard stacks are interchangeable from Win-Mac
X-Mac 9 so these should be just fine and dandy under
Classic...do hope so... give them a go and let me know!

All the best, Richmond Mathewson

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Re: exit preOpenCard

[Dave Cragg]

At 4:06 pm -0700 2/2/04, Chris Sheffield wrote:
Here's my problem.  I'm checking for a certain value in a preOpenCard
handler.  If the value is false, I want to exit that preOpenCard and go to
the next card.  Problem is if I have
go next cd
exit preOpenCard
the preOpenCard of the next card exits, not the first one.  Hopefully this
makes sense.  Is there anyway I can exit the first preOpenCard and go to the
next card creating a problem like this?  I tried putting in a line after go
next cd that is "wait 500 millisecs with messages", but that only works
sometimes.  Thanks.
Something like this, perhaps: (untested)

send "gonext" to me in 50 milliseconds
exit preOpenCard
  on gonext
 go next card
  end gonext
Cheers
Dave
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Where to put externals and stacks in OS X bundles?

[Dar Scott]

I _think_ this is where externals and stacks go in an OS X application 
bundle, but I'm not sure:

myApp.app
Contents
MacOS
myApp
toolX
toolY
toolZ
Resources
libStack1.rev
libStack2.rev
libStack3.rev
PlugIns
externalA.bundle
externalB.bundle
externalB.bundle
Is this right?

Stacks and externals might be exceptional in some way.

Now what about externals used by the library stacks?  Where do they go?

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Richmond messes you around-Sorry!

[Mathewson]

Sorry Chaps..made a bit of a bog of thingsnow all
up and working on my website.no swastikas (however, I
do think Kipling's poetry is very good).no Unzip
gremlins..

Love, Abuse,Richmond

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Re: no such object

[Jan Schenkel]

--- hershrev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I got that but the Ip add varies from time to time.
> Is there a way to 
> send a message in a stack from a different stack ?
> Thanks hershrev
> 

Yes there is, and the command is called 'send' : 
--
  send "someMessage" to stack "Foobar"
--

But if you're trying to trigger a handler in your
mainstack, you may as well just use the handlername --
the message path goes through the mainstack.

So in your case, you could add a handler to your
mainstack script :
--
on UpdateDB_IPAddress pNewAddress
  put pNewAddress into field "IPAddress" of me
end UpdateDB_IPAddress
--

And then from any of your substacks, you can do
something like :
--
  UpdateDB_IPAddress "the.new.host"
--

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Re: no such object

[hershrev]

I got that but the Ip add varies from time to time. Is there a way to 
send a message in a stack from a different stack ?
Thanks hershrev
On Monday, February 2, 2004, at 03:40 PM, Jan Schenkel wrote:

--- hershrev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi every one
I have a script in a stack
on openStack
"put  revOpenDatabase("PostgreSQL",field
"ip_address","test","postgres","xxx")into field
"myDBID"
end openStack
  working fine , when I call it from a
substack,(call "openStack" ) the
compiler comes up no such object.
executing at 3:26:04 PM
TypeChunk: no such object
Object  ATfRE
Lineput  revOpenDatabase("PostgreSQL",field
"ip_address","test","postgres","xxx")into field
"myDBID"
Hintip_address
Thanks hershrev.

Hi Hershrev,

Unless you have a field "ip_address" in your substack,
you'll have to better specify that field "ip_address"
in your mainstack :
  put revOpenDatabase('PostgreSQL", field "ip_address"
of me,"test","postgres","xxx")into field "myDBID"
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Re: win32 topstack problem

[Alex Rice]

On Feb 2, 2004, at 1:37 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
Which ever is the topmost visible stack of the lowest mode at the time.
Unfortunately the definition of "topstack" doesn't help me understand 
what's happening.

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Stealth Browser release

[MisterX]

For all of you daring cybernautes,

Since I dont like sitting on near ready releases...
Here is the premiere release of my Stealth Browser 1.0
for RunRev...

http://monsieurx.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=137

It's bare bones, look at the coming features to see what's
coming... Testing was also barebones due to quite a few RR
technical problems. 

Mac and Linux improvements are welcome... Any improvements for
that matter... 

A language-free version should be available soon to test the 
new GUI language module made for the Roulette sim...

This browser is freeware (beerware for those inclined)...

Enjoy

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Re: Richmond "Does"MetaCard, Swastikas, Zip formats.....

[Jim Carwardine]

When will the OS 9 version be ready?  Jim

on 2/2/04 1:48 PM, Mathewson wrote:

> Sorry about the swastika: no offence meant-just seemed a
> good icon for "Control Browser"- have uploaded a version
> with a new, less contentious icon.
> 
> I zipped the first version in a 'funny' format which at
> least one person had problems with - the swastika-free
> version is zipped in a standard fashion.
> 
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Re: no such object

[Jan Schenkel]

--- hershrev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi every one
> I have a script in a stack
> on openStack
> "put  revOpenDatabase("PostgreSQL",field 
> "ip_address","test","postgres","xxx")into field
> "myDBID"
> end openStack
>   working fine , when I call it from a
> substack,(call "openStack" ) the 
> compiler comes up no such object.
> 
>   executing at 3:26:04 PM
> Type  Chunk: no such object
> ObjectATfRE
> Line  put  revOpenDatabase("PostgreSQL",field 
> "ip_address","test","postgres","xxx")into field
> "myDBID"
> Hint  ip_address
> 
> Thanks hershrev.
> 

Hi Hershrev,

Unless you have a field "ip_address" in your substack,
you'll have to better specify that field "ip_address"
in your mainstack :
  put revOpenDatabase('PostgreSQL", field "ip_address"
of me,"test","postgres","xxx")into field "myDBID"

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Re: win32 topstack problem

[Richard Gaskin]

Alex Rice wrote:

> 
> On Feb 2, 2004, at 12:38 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
> 
>> The preOpenStack message is sent before the card is drawn, while the
>> topStack returns the value of the topmost visible stack with the lowest
>> mode.
>> 
>> This behavior should be the same across platforms, so I appreciate your
>> Bugzilla report of any platform-specific deviance.
> 
> Which behavior would you expect in that example: for the 
> message to go to the current card of the mainstack or the current card
> of the substack?

Which ever is the topmost visible stack of the lowest mode at the time.

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Re: GoRevnet & LibURL?

[Richard Gaskin]

Dave Cragg wrote:

> At 11:15 am +0100 2/2/04, Dom wrote:
>> Richard Gaskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> - A bug in the engine causes inserted scripts to b removed if the stack
>>> containing them has its destroyStack property set to true and is closed.  By
>>> default the destroyStack property of GoRevnet is false -- could something in
>>> your environment be changing that?
>> 
>> Verified. The destroystack property is set to false.
> 
> Richard,
> 
> Is it possible that even if destroyStack is set to false that a
> closed stack can be purged from memory when insufficient memory is
> available? I have a *very* vague memory of reading this somewhere.

I suppose that's possible; memory issues can affect a wide variety of
object-loading issues.

But I've only ever seen low-memory errors on Mac OS 9 and earlier; Win and
UNIX seem to have sufficiently robust virtual memory such that I've never
encountered such an error on those systems (I was even able to use
decompress on a 280MB gzipfile on OS X without a hitch).

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no such object

[hershrev]

Hi every one
I have a script in a stack
on openStack
   "put  revOpenDatabase("PostgreSQL",field 
"ip_address","test","postgres","xxx")into field "myDBID"
end openStack
 working fine , when I call it from a substack,(call "openStack" ) the 
compiler comes up no such object.

 	executing at 3:26:04 PM
Type	Chunk: no such object
Object	ATfRE
Line	put  revOpenDatabase("PostgreSQL",field 
"ip_address","test","postgres","xxx")into field "myDBID"
Hint	ip_address

Thanks hershrev.

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Re: win32 topstack problem

[Alex Rice]

On Feb 2, 2004, at 12:38 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:

The preOpenStack message is sent before the card is drawn, while the
topStack returns the value of the topmost visible stack with the lowest
mode.
This behavior should be the same across platforms, so I appreciate your
Bugzilla report of any platform-specific deviance.
Which behavior would you expect in that example: for the  
message to go to the current card of the mainstack or the current card 
of the substack?

Changing your handler from preOpenStack to openStack may resolve the 
issue.
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Re: GoRevnet & LibURL?

[Dave Cragg]

At 11:15 am +0100 2/2/04, Dom wrote:
Richard Gaskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 - A bug in the engine causes inserted scripts to b removed if the stack
 containing them has its destroyStack property set to true and is closed.  By
 default the destroyStack property of GoRevnet is false -- could something in
 your environment be changing that?
Verified. The destroystack property is set to false.
Richard,

Is it possible that even if destroyStack is set to false that a 
closed stack can be purged from memory when insufficient memory is 
available? I have a *very* vague memory of reading this somewhere.

Dave
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Re: win32 topstack problem

[Richard Gaskin]

Alex Rice wrote:

> Has anyone see problem similar to this?
> 
> Background:
> 
> I navigate between mainstack and substack by this code:
> 
> go card x of stack "sub" as toplevel -- a substack
> hide me -- the mainstack
> 
> (I hide the previous stack *afte*r opening the next stack so there is
> no empty space flashing between stacks. Also using "go ... in the
> window of ..." is not an option at this point- I would have to rewrite
> too much code.)
> 
> In the preOpenStack card handler of stack "sub", a script runs this
> code:
> 
> send  to the current card of the topstack
> 
> (The script is run by an external XCMD, if that matters.)
> 
> Here is the problem:
> 
> On Mac OS X, the message  is sent to card x of stack "sub"
> On Win32, the message  is sent to somewhere else, I guess to
> the current card of the  mainstack. Here is a workaround:
> 
> go card x of stack "sub" as toplevel -- a substack
> wait 1 tick with messages -- wait for "topstack" to be correct
> hide me -- the mainstack
> 
> So it seems there is some kind of race condition where "the topstack"
> is not necessarily known?

The preOpenStack message is sent before the card is drawn, while the
topStack returns the value of the topmost visible stack with the lowest
mode.

This behavior should be the same across platforms, so I appreciate your
Bugzilla report of any platform-specific deviance.

Changing your handler from preOpenStack to openStack may resolve the issue.

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win32 topstack problem

[Alex Rice]

Has anyone see problem similar to this?

Background:

I navigate between mainstack and substack by this code:

go card x of stack "sub" as toplevel -- a substack
hide me -- the mainstack
(I hide the previous stack *afte*r opening the next stack so there is 
no empty space flashing between stacks. Also using "go ... in the 
window of ..." is not an option at this point- I would have to rewrite 
too much code.)

In the preOpenStack card handler of stack "sub", a script runs this 
code:

	send  to the current card of the topstack

(The script is run by an external XCMD, if that matters.)

Here is the problem:

On Mac OS X, the message  is sent to card x of stack "sub"
On Win32, the message  is sent to somewhere else, I guess to 
the current card of the  mainstack. Here is a workaround:

go card x of stack "sub" as toplevel -- a substack
wait 1 tick with messages -- wait for "topstack" to be correct
hide me -- the mainstack
So it seems there is some kind of race condition where "the topstack" 
is not necessarily known?

Thanks for any thoughts or bugzilla #'s.
I haven't isolated this to a specific recipe, or even know if it's 
something I'm causing myself but thought I would ask.



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Richmond "Does"MetaCard, Swastikas, Zip formats.....

[Mathewson]

Sorry about the swastika: no offence meant-just seemed a
good icon for "Control Browser"- have uploaded a version
with a new, less contentious icon.

I zipped the first version in a 'funny' format which at
least one person had problems with - the swastika-free
version is zipped in a standard fashion.

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Re: GoRevnet & LibURL?

[Jan Schenkel]

--- Richard Gaskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jan Schenkel wrote:
> 
> > My ISP forces me to get a proxy-configuration file
> > from a URL, and I can set this in the Internet
> > preferences on Windows.
> > However, libURL doesn't seem able to fetch this
> > information, which is why I have to manually set
> the
> > httpProxy before I open up RevNet.
> 
> Isn't there a proxy setting in Rev's Prefs?
> 

I keep filling it in, but Rev's prefs stack seems
unwilling to remember the setting.

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Re: Quicktime in Windows: best way to go?

[michael]

I thought flash player was not the greatest for showing video.  Maybe is 
is better now.
Generally speaking, VideoLAN (http://www.videolan.org/) is probably the 
best cross-platform opensource media player out there.  I have always 
preferred Quicktime player and format over other usual suspects.
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Re: GoRevnet & LibURL?

[Richard Gaskin]

Jan Schenkel wrote:

> My ISP forces me to get a proxy-configuration file
> from a URL, and I can set this in the Internet
> preferences on Windows.
> However, libURL doesn't seem able to fetch this
> information, which is why I have to manually set the
> httpProxy before I open up RevNet.

Isn't there a proxy setting in Rev's Prefs?

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[OT] the first look at MTML, Yeah RunRev!

[Mark Brownell]

Hi Revolutionaries,

In case anyone is interested in the first look at this, here is a link 
to download site where I will try to sell it later:
http://www.gizmotron.org/intuition/download.html

I would welcome any comments or suggestions. I came to Revolution six 
months ago after realizing that I was never going to get anywhere with 
the current state of Director. All I had was a vision and a lot of 
experimental versions behind me. I tried versions of this in RealBasic, 
VB, and Shockwave. Now, after more than three years, I was able to do 
things with Revolution that I could never do with the other development 
environments.

Sincerly,
Mark Brownell
Gizmotron Graphics
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Re: GoRevnet & LibURL?

[Jan Schenkel]

--- Dom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Richard Gaskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > - is the GoRevNet backscript inserted?
> 
> Ahem, I am not exactly familiar with
> backscripts/frontscripts... ;-)
>  
> > - is there a frontscript, backscript, or library
> handling the linkClicked
> > message and not passing it?
> 
> As long as I can remember, it worked, nothing was
> changed since...
> No library in particular.
> 
> Sure, with the time, a number of files go in the
> "plugins" folder, with
> sometimes unwanted effects ;->
> 
> 

Hi Dom,

My ISP forces me to get a proxy-configuration file
from a URL, and I can set this in the Internet
preferences on Windows.
However, libURL doesn't seem able to fetch this
information, which is why I have to manually set the
httpProxy before I open up RevNet.

Hope this helped,

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Re: GoRevnet & LibURL?

[Richard Gaskin]

Dom wrote:

> Richard Gaskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> - is the GoRevNet backscript inserted?
> 
> Ahem, I am not exactly familiar with backscripts/frontscripts... ;-)
> 
>> - is there a frontscript, backscript, or library handling the linkClicked
>> message and not passing it?
> 
> As long as I can remember, it worked, nothing was changed since...
> No library in particular.
> 
> Sure, with the time, a number of files go in the "plugins" folder, with
> sometimes unwanted effects ;->

Such effects are minimized if plugins use the good practice of passing
system messages.

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Re: GoRevnet & LibURL?

[Dom]

Richard Gaskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> - is the GoRevNet backscript inserted?

Ahem, I am not exactly familiar with backscripts/frontscripts... ;-)
 
> - is there a frontscript, backscript, or library handling the linkClicked
> message and not passing it?

As long as I can remember, it worked, nothing was changed since...
No library in particular.

Sure, with the time, a number of files go in the "plugins" folder, with
sometimes unwanted effects ;->


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Re: GoRevnet & LibURL?

[Dom]

Dom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> A progress, so, but not perfect ;-)

Doesn't work, again!

It's too Voodoo for me, I give up ;-<

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Re: Richmond "Does" the MetaCard Interface

[Stephen Quinn Barncard]

Why is there a swastika on the toolbar?? To contact white supremacists?

Dear xTalk Afficionados,
   Rampaged all over the MetaCard GUI this winter hols -
download it, try it, write me abusive e-mails.. its on
my website at the "RR GUI HACKS" page
   Best Regards Richmond Mathewson
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Re: List field behavior

[Rob Cozens]

Bob,

Used: delete line 2 of field x of stack y.  This syntax deletes the 
line but: put the number of lines of field x of stack y results with 
3.  Line 2 has no text.
Same results when empty is used instead of delete.
Using Rev 2.1.2 on Mac OS 9 & X, the results are NOT the same here: 
Put empty leaves a blank line; delete removes the line.  I guess 
Jacque was right about a bug...though I thought you said you were 
working with v2.1, and I'm surprised that kind of an error could 
persist that long.

What syntax do you use to add the line?
put text into line 2 of field x of stack y. This puts text into line 2.
Same here.
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Re: Quicktime in Windows: best way to go?

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Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 19:48:58 -0800 (PST)
From: erik hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Quicktime in Windows: best way to go?
To: How to use Revolution <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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is Quicktime in Windows the best way to go
for crossplatform apps? Windows only apps?
Quicktime is a good solution for cross platform apps
*IF* you dont need Linux
*IF* your users have administrative rights on their computer (Quicktime is 
not installed by default on Windows computers)
*IF* Apple do not change his license policy of Quicktime suddenly (already 
happens few years ago)

I used Quicktime for Windows apps succesfully for Point of Informations, 
but i had nightmares with widely distributed CD-ROM because my end-users 
didn't know how to install Quicktime, or where not allowed to do it or 
there was some failure in the installation process.

For windows only apps DirectX is a much better solution, but unfortunately 
not supported yet by revolution.

It would be very fine if Revolution could support natively the Flash 
Player, because the flash player displays very well sounds, vector graphic 
animation and digital video and is avalaible on Mac, Windows and Linux.

Claude Lemmel
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Richmond "Does" the MetaCard Interface

[Mathewson]

Dear xTalk Afficionados,
   Rampaged all over the MetaCard GUI this winter hols - 
download it, try it, write me abusive e-mails.. its on
my website at the "RR GUI HACKS" page

   Best Regards Richmond Mathewson

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Re: GoRevnet & LibURL?

[Dom]

Worked this morning!

After hitting the "update button"...

for the stacks list: got a "could not retrieve index" alert, but got the
list

for the tips list: ahem they disappeared after I got the revJournal
list!!

revJournal: got it, with the more recent "handy handler#5"

web links: got them


A progress, so, but not perfect ;-)

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Re: Going crazy with closing a stack

[Wouter]

On 02 Feb 2004, at 05:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Message: 7
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2004 13:02:27 +0900
From: Doug Lerner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Going crazy with closing a stack
To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED],How to use Revolution"
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On 2/2/04 12:55 PM, "J. Landman Gay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

snip


My main stack has one stack handler:

on closeStack
answer the target
end closeStack
Substack has one stack handler:

on closeStack
put "closing sub"
end closeStack
I click the closebox in the substack and "closing sub" appears in the
message box. I never get an answer dialog.
That's what I want to happen here too. :)

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Why not use the closeStackRequest message?

Greetings,

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Re: GoRevnet & LibURL?

[Richard Gaskin]

Dom wrote:

> Richard Gaskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> - A bug in the engine causes inserted scripts to b removed if the stack
>> containing them has its destroyStack property set to true and is closed.  By
>> default the destroyStack property of GoRevnet is false -- could something in
>> your environment be changing that?
> 
> Verified. The destroystack property is set to false.

The next things to check would be:

- is the GoRevNet backscript inserted?

- is there a frontscript, backscript, or library handling the linkClicked
message and not passing it?

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Re: GoRevnet & LibURL?

[Dom]

Richard Gaskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> - A bug in the engine causes inserted scripts to b removed if the stack
> containing them has its destroyStack property set to true and is closed.  By
> default the destroyStack property of GoRevnet is false -- could something in
> your environment be changing that?

Verified. The destroystack property is set to false.

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Re: The card is grey on printing!!

[Jan Schenkel]

--- "Gardner, Joseph A" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jan and François,
> 
> I'm also having this problem when printing a field
> from OSX. Here's my button script:
> 
> on mouseUp
>   put the backgroundColor of cd fld "FileContents"
> into tBC
>   set the backgroundColor of cd fld "FileContents"
> to white
>   revPrintField ("field" && quote & "FileContents" &
> quote)
>   set the backgroundColor of cd fld "FileContents"
> to tBC
> end mouseUp
> 
> The field _still_ prints in a gray rectangle. I
> checked the button syntax by setting the field to
> BLACK and while the field flashes black for a second
> while the print command runs, the printout is
> _still_ black text on a gray background. Is this a
> bug? Any advice on how to get the field to print
> black text on a pure white background?
> 
> TIA...
> 
> joe.
> 

Hi Joe,

The answer I gave should work for those cases when
you're using the 'print' command.
Your case involves the revPrintField command, where
you don't have control over the stack that is used for
printing.

A few questions :
- does this happen in the IDE or only in standalones ?
- if only in standalones, have you let the
distribution builder apply the default colours ?

If it also happens in the IDE, a trip to bugzilla is
in order, I think :-)

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Re: Going crazy with closing a stack

[Doug Lerner]

That's almost what I ended up doing. Instead of running that stack as a
substack, I made it its own stack and moved all the handlers except for
openStack and closeStack elsewhere.

It seems to be working this way.

Thanks,

dogu

On 2/2/04 4:57 PM, "Frank Leahy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Doug,
> 
> I'm guessing that other stacks of yours are getting closeStack
> messages, right?  If so then I'm pretty sure you're not getting a
> closeStack because of something you're doing.  Maybe you forgot to pass
> menuPick, or pass some other message that is keep RunRev from sending
> you the closeStack messages.
> 
> Whatever it is, at this point I'd create a new stack, place just this
> controller you're trying to use on it -- with no other scripts in the
> stack except the closeStack -- and see if a closeStack handler gets
> called.  Then add your other scripts one at a time (or a bunch at a
> time) until you see it stop getting called again.
> 
> It's great to use the list as a sounding board, but sometimes the only
> way to do debugging is to return to a zero baseline and actually do the
> debugging.
> 
> Good luck,
> -- Frank
> 
> On Monday, February 2, 2004, at 02:30  AM,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>> Thanks for your note, Tom.
>> 
>> Unfortunately, I can't move this stuff into the startup and shutdown
>> handlers because this is just one of several stacks that are open while
>> running the app and doesn't take place at shutdown.
>> 
>> doug
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Re: Compilers?

[Thierry Arbellot]

MacOS X : Project Builder
Windows : MS Visual C++ 6
MacOS 9 : Code Warrior 7 (but I don't work anymore on OS 9)
Thierry.

Le Monday, 2 Feb 2004, à 00:01 Europe/Paris, Dar Scott a écrit :

What compilers are you folks using for what platforms (from what 
platforms) for making externals?

(Other comments?  Recommendations?  Etc.)

Dar Scott

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Re: Going crazy with closing a stack

[Frank Leahy]

Doug,

 I'm guessing that other stacks of yours are getting closeStack 
messages, right?  If so then I'm pretty sure you're not getting a 
closeStack because of something you're doing.  Maybe you forgot to pass 
menuPick, or pass some other message that is keep RunRev from sending 
you the closeStack messages.

Whatever it is, at this point I'd create a new stack, place just this 
controller you're trying to use on it -- with no other scripts in the 
stack except the closeStack -- and see if a closeStack handler gets 
called.  Then add your other scripts one at a time (or a bunch at a 
time) until you see it stop getting called again.

It's great to use the list as a sounding board, but sometimes the only 
way to do debugging is to return to a zero baseline and actually do the 
debugging.

Good luck,
-- Frank
On Monday, February 2, 2004, at 02:30  AM, 
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Thanks for your note, Tom.

Unfortunately, I can't move this stuff into the startup and shutdown
handlers because this is just one of several stacks that are open while
running the app and doesn't take place at shutdown.
doug
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