Re: Standalone shell/console application
On 3/5/04 7:10 PM, Kevin wrote: Why isn't there a global property to disable the graphic subsystem? Better yet a handler similar to onStartup is called only when the display/GUI is missing allowing developers to take action (run in console mode or GUI). Many frameworks support this feature by creating GUI components as containers only when the DISPLAY/GUI is unavailable. With a few tweaks RR could have one engine to support both CGI/CONSOLE and DISPLA/X/GUI systems and simplify their maintenance. Please correct me if I am incorrect or I have missed some API which allows this (in a stand-alone). This is exactly how it works. If the GUI is absent, you can run the engine via text-based scripts. This is the recommended (and only) way to use the engine as a CGI on servers. Many of us on this list have already implemented web-based CGIs; I have a handful of them running on my server right now. The only message the engine sends, in that case, is a startup message. Your text script must include an on startup handler that will catch this message. See: http://www.hyperactivesw.com/downloads/IntroRevCGIs.zip -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Making POST work with URL's
Hi All, I'm having a devil of a job retrieving data from a web site usinf the POST command. Here's some example coding put empty into card field SVG ask Swiss-Prot accession number with P01308 post it to URL http://au.expasy.org/cgi-bin/get-sprot-entry?; put it into card field SVG break This doesn't seem to assemble properly, so that I get entry P01308 not available (it is). Any thoughts? I'd appreciate a direct response to this one, as I'm working on a deadline ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- All best wishes, Rob == Prof. Rob Beynon|+44 151 794 4312 (voice) Dept. Veterinary Preclinical|+44 151 794 4243 (fax) Sciences, University of Liverpool, PO Box 147, Liverpool L69 7ZJ |mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] == ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Talking Dog experiment
I'm experimenting with a talking dog...a terrier. He grabs a web page or an rss file and reads it for you. Anyone who wishes to help me see if he behaves can put the following into their message box: go URL http://ezpzapps.com/rssTrial.rev; He is a small dog so look for him then click his head to bring his menubar up on OS X. I've set the mnemonic for a PC windows user to: Stop Talking - S Get motivational quote of the day - D Get message from sims M Works fine here on OS X but I don't have a PC to test on right now and want to know if the mnemonic works on a PC. Please let me know if he fetches for you on Mac or PC. TIA sims EurRevCon reserve your seat now! http://TechieTours.com/Rev ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Making POST work with URL's
Rob, don't you need a variable=value parameter to the POST? Meaning, doesn't it need something like number=P01308 instead of P01308? Just thinking... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Beynon Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 12:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Making POST work with URL's Hi All, I'm having a devil of a job retrieving data from a web site usinf the POST command. Here's some example coding put empty into card field SVG ask Swiss-Prot accession number with P01308 post it to URL http://au.expasy.org/cgi-bin/get-sprot-entry?; put it into card field SVG break This doesn't seem to assemble properly, so that I get entry P01308 not available (it is). Any thoughts? I'd appreciate a direct response to this one, as I'm working on a deadline ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- All best wishes, Rob == Prof. Rob Beynon|+44 151 794 4312 (voice) Dept. Veterinary Preclinical|+44 151 794 4243 (fax) Sciences, University of Liverpool, PO Box 147, Liverpool L69 7ZJ |mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] == ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use- revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[OT] Bob Lewis on outsourcing
This week's newsletter from my favorite IT columnist, Bob Lewis, offers a fresh take on outsourcing, perhaps of interest for those of you who work in or with larger companies considering it -- there may be something in it for just about everyone who does contract work: http://issurvivor.com/ Soon to be in the archives, at http://www.issurvivor.com/ArticlesDetail.asp?ID=389. The archives require registration but it's free, and his is the only weekly column I read. -- Richard Gaskin ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Interesting Utility for PDF Generation
On Mar 6, 2004, at 12:55 PM, Trevor DeVore wrote: It seems like making a pure transcript version of a PDF generator would be possible. I have used FPDF http://www.fpdf.org/ in PHP projects before and this is a purely PHP solution. I imagine that library could be ported directly to transcript. Granted it might not be as fast as an external but it would be something that everyone in the community could contribute to and it could be available for everyone to use regardless of a projects budget. just found this article on devchannel http://tools.devchannel.org/devtoolschannel/04/03/02/183211.shtml it's about XML to PDF translation. Didn't read it, but I think it has to do with the topic. cheers Andre -- Andre Alves Garzia 2004 BRAZIL http://studio.soapdog.org ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Builing a complex text-editor - possible?
Is it possible to have different margins in different parts of the same field - like Word? If this is not the case. Does anyone have any suggestion on how to do this? J.S ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Interesting Utility for PDF Generation
Many Thanks, Andre. Will test this as soon as possible :) Le 6 mars 04, 23:20, Andre Garzia a crit : On Mar 6, 2004, at 12:55 PM, Trevor DeVore wrote: It seems like making a pure transcript version of a PDF generator would be possible. I have used FPDF http://www.fpdf.org/ in PHP projects before and this is a purely PHP solution. I imagine that library could be ported directly to transcript. Granted it might not be as fast as an external but it would be something that everyone in the community could contribute to and it could be available for everyone to use regardless of a projects budget. just found this article on devchannel http://tools.devchannel.org/devtoolschannel/04/03/02/183211.shtml it's about XML to PDF translation. Didn't read it, but I think it has to do with the topic. cheers Andre -- Andre Alves Garzia 2004 BRAZIL http://studio.soapdog.org ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Bien cordialement, Pierre Sahores 100, rue de Paris F - 77140 Nemours psahores (at) easynet.fr GSM: +33 6 03 95 77 70 Pro: +33 1 41 60 52 68 Dom:+33 1 64 45 05 33 Fax: +33 1 64 45 05 33 Inspection acadmique de Seine-Saint-Denis Applications et SGBD ACID SQL (WEB et PGI) Penser et produire delta de productivit ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Talking Dog experiment
Works for me: OS X 10.3.2. Cute!!! (I especially like your choice of doggy picture, since it looks like my little guy--a wire fox terrier :-) M On Mar 6, 2004, at 1:45 PM, sims wrote: I'm experimenting with a talking dog...a terrier. He grabs a web page or an rss file and reads it for you. Anyone who wishes to help me see if he behaves can put the following into their message box: go URL http://ezpzapps.com/rssTrial.rev; He is a small dog so look for him then click his head to bring his menubar up on OS X. I've set the mnemonic for a PC windows user to: Stop Talking - S Get motivational quote of the day - D Get message from sims M Works fine here on OS X but I don't have a PC to test on right now and want to know if the mnemonic works on a PC. Please let me know if he fetches for you on Mac or PC. TIA sims EurRevCon reserve your seat now! http://TechieTours.com/Rev ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Standalone shell/console application
I am afraid my communication skills are not very good and my explaination maybe misleading. I am not speaking of solely console/text/shell application or of CGI. I am speaking of a single stand alone application preforming double duty as both a interactive/GUI application or a console/text/shell based application. This is not unheard of a majority of *NIX applications behave in such a manner. In fact I have written several of my own in my 15+ years as a developer. These are quite simple to create and such a feature would simplify the amount of work for the 'RR' developers. Instead of maintaing 2 engines for multiple platforms they would only maintain a single engine for each platform. This does not address the benefit to you and I would reveive. We could develop a single application that preformed double duty from a single code base! My primary purpose for purchasing RR was the ability to write a application for mutiple platforms from a single source. I have used Ja va for such projects in the past but the enormous/slow virtual machine coupled with the lack of a significant RAD enviroment slows development. Kevin -==-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=- Disclaimer: Any resemblance between the above views and those of my employer, my terminal, or the view out my window are purely coincidental. Any resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic. The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold them is left as an exercise for the reader. The question of the existence of the reader is left as an exercise for the second god coefficient. (A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism is beyond the scope of this article.) --- On Sat 03/06, J. Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: J. Landman Gay [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 12:05:29 -0600 Subject: Re: Standalone shell/console application On 3/5/04 7:10 PM, Kevin wrote:br br Why isn't there a global property to disable the graphic subsystem?br br Better yet a handler similar to onStartup is called only when thebr display/GUI is missing allowing developers to take action (run inbr console mode or GUI). Many frameworks support this feature bybr creating GUI components as containers only when the DISPLAY/GUI isbr unavailable. With a few tweaks RR could have one engine to supportbr both CGI/CONSOLE and DISPLA/X/GUI systems and simplify theirbr maintenance.br br Please correct me if I am incorrect or I have missed some API whichbr allows this (in a stand-alone).brbrThis is exactly how it works. If the GUI is absent, you can run the brengine via text-based scripts. This is the recommended (and only) way to bruse the engine as a CGI on servers. Many of us on this list have already brimplemented web-based CGIs; I have a handful of them running on my brserver right now.brbrThe only message the engine sends, in that case, is a startup message. brYour text script must include an on startup handler that will catch brthis message.brbrSee: http://www.hyperactivesw.com/downloads/IntroRevCGIs.zipbrbr-- brJacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED]brHyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.combr___bruse-revolution mailing listbr[EMAIL PROTECTED]brhttp://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolutionbr ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Standalone shell/console application
On Saturday, March 6, 2004, at 05:42 PM, Kevin wrote: I am afraid my communication skills are not very good and my explaination maybe misleading. I am not speaking of solely console/text/shell application or of CGI. I am speaking of a single stand alone application preforming double duty as both a interactive/GUI application or a console/text/shell based application. Why not try it and see? The GUI version will have to have one stack, so maybe you can look at a command line switch to make that invisible. There is a chance that the GUI version will choke in an environment without a GUI, I suppose. You probably know how to tinker with something like this. As an alternative, you might have the command-line version decide whether to run the GUI version or not. Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: PDF
OOPS!, Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 23:48:36 -0800 From: Ken Norris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: PDF on mouseUp global gAllowMove set the allowMove of me to false end mouseUp -- I *think* you can safely remove the global declaration... But only because it doesn't use it at all, and it's not the same variable name at all... ;- Ken N. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 5, Issue 123
What I want to know is Lego Mindstorms controllable via Revolution? I think it is in the serial realm... I know there is a Mac version out there last time I searched. I think it was an educational version. And there is something wrong with that? The educational version is Robolab by National Instruments. It is based on their very powerful Labview software. Robolab has several different user levels, and is quite powerful and sophisticated at the upper levels. It is also cross platform, which the toy software is not. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 5, Issue 123
And there is something wrong with that? Chill, please... I think he was just stating that he had heard there was Mac educational software to drive the Mindstorms. Didn't sound like any value judgment was attached--at least not to me. And thanks for the info about Robolab--I wasn't aware of it. Do you know where it is available and whether it runs in OS X? Marian On Mar 6, 2004, at 9:38 PM, Bruce Robertson wrote: What I want to know is Lego Mindstorms controllable via Revolution? I think it is in the serial realm... I know there is a Mac version out there last time I searched. I think it was an educational version. And there is something wrong with that? The educational version is Robolab by National Instruments. It is based on their very powerful Labview software. Robolab has several different user levels, and is quite powerful and sophisticated at the upper levels. It is also cross platform, which the toy software is not. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
OT Robolab Mac software for LEGO Mindstorms
Actually, answered my own question. Robolab currently is OS 8 or 9 only not X native (but X-native version coming June 2004) Costs $69 from Pitsco LEGO Educational Division: http://www.pldstore.com/pld/finditem.cfm?itemid=1264 HTH. M On Mar 6, 2004, at 9:48 PM, Marian Petrides wrote: And thanks for the info about Robolab--I wasn't aware of it. Do you know where it is available and whether it runs in OS X? ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Standalone shell/console application
Thanks for the sugestion Dar and Et' al, I have tried several single stack stand alones with very little success. It seems every stand alone I build encounters the error can't find display before any Transcript code (my code) is executed. Now understand my experience with Transcript and RR is limited and I may have not found the necessary construct. I thought I could get some clues as to how this all functions by opening the Distribution Builder and some of the stacks built into RR (RTFS) but they are password protected (preventing me from viewing the source). I was under the impression that when I purchased the Enterprise version this would all be unlocked (basically allowing full access to the product) I guess I was mistaken. Do any of you know how to build a stand alone without Distribution Builder? Exactly where is the OS X engine? Kevin --- On Sat 03/06, Dar Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Dar Scott [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 18:20:44 -0700 Subject: Re: Standalone shell/console application brOn Saturday, March 6, 2004, at 05:42 PM, Kevin wrote:brbrgt; I am afraid my communication skills are not very good and my brgt; explaination maybe misleading. I am not speaking of solely brgt; console/text/shell application or of CGI. I am speaking of a single brgt; stand alone application preforming double duty as both a brgt; interactive/GUI application or a console/text/shell based application.brbrWhy not try it and see? The GUI version will have to have one stack, brso maybe you can look at a command line switch to make that invisible. brThere is a chance that the GUI version will choke in an environment brwithout a GUI, I suppose. You probably know how to tinker with brsomething like this.brbrAs an alternative, you might have the command-line version decide brwhether to run the GUI version or not.brbrDar Scottbrbr___bruse-revolution mailing listbr[EMAIL PROTECTED] v.combrhttp://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolutionbr ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 5, Issue 123
And thanks for the info about Robolab--I wasn't aware of it. Do you know where it is available and whether it runs in OS X? AFAIK the exclusive distributor is Pitsco, www.pitsco.com You will find the Robolab software under the Mindstorms links. http://www.pldstore.com/pld/catalog.cfm?dest=itempgitemid=1264secid=9link on=subsectionlinkid=45 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
EuroRevCon WebMerge...it keeps getting better!
Richard Gaskin and FourthWorld.com have generously offered a special price on WebMerge for all who attend EuroRevCon. WebMerge will be priced at 40% off the regular price! Normally only $99.00 (a real bargain at that price I might add) it will be available for on $59.00! WebMerge lets you export your data to HTML, generating static Web pages from database files. Build catalogs, e-zines, contact lists, image galleries and more, quickly and easily. WebMerge is the Web publishing software that works with nearly any database or spreadsheet data, including FileMaker Pro, Microsoft Access, AppleWorks, and Excel. Generated pages can be hosted on any Web server without the need for costly and complicated database hosting. A free demo version of WebMerge 2.3 is available now, offering many new features and more than a dozen new tags for your HTML templates: WebMerge: http://fourthworld.com/products/webmerge/index.html Make sure your seat is reserved at the European Revolution Conference! The special hotel and conference price ends on 10 March so send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to book your seat at the low special price. For the conference schedule and more information: http://TechieTours.com/Rev See you there! sims -- Tech Conferences http://TechieTours.com We make... iBirthday http://EZPZapps.com/iB SmartDoghttp://EZPZapps.com/SmartDog Kartolina http://EZPZapps.com/kartolina ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[OT] Alternate User Input Methods
This is not directly related to Rev, but perhaps in some small way it could be. If you own an iSight camera, you might want to check out ToySight, a set of iSight controlled games from FreeVerse Software (www.freeverse.com). The games in and of themselves are not earth shattering, but the means of interaction is pretty compelling: move your hands and gesture in front of the camera to control and interact with the games. Makes me wonder if this type of thing could be done with Rev on a smaller scale (though I'd guess that Rev might not be fast enough to keep up with the input of the camera). Anyway, it's interesting to see how FreeVerse designed/laid out the UI to account for interaction where input is essentially very inaccurate. After an hour or so playing, it's easy to see why this type of gestural input is impractical for all but the strongest of computer users, but it's still a thought provoking experience in terms of how folks interact with their machines. Between ToySight and the iBiz Virtual Keyboard (http://store.yahoo.com/ibizpda/vike.html), maybe a Minority Report type future for computing isn't so far away... Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Development Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
No Print
Howdy, I comin' up empty here folks. I have a card with a scrolling group map and another metamap (same size as the group) on 768 x 612 card (stack dim's). I click Page Setup and orient my print. Then I click Print and check Preview. Nothing...nada...zilch. If I go ahead and print, it just passes a blank sheet through the printer. I need this to print. Why won't it print? TIA, Ken N. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
