RE: Open Directory reminder

2004-08-25 Thread MisterX
Thanks Richard!

It would also help if all the Rev, MC and HC oriented sites would update their
links once in a while. Many have outdated links, missing lots of new links
to. And if one thing works in search engines, it's linking and adding weight
to sites that cross reference given some search topics.

Adding metatags in your html pages also helps but you have to do it for them
all pages (php or rev.cgi headers anyone?)

cheers!
Xavier

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 Subject: Open Directory reminder
 
 
 A lot of great new Rev sites have come up in the last few months, so I 
 just wanted to offer this reminder of the Open Directory category for 
 Transcript:
 
 http://dmoz.org/Computers/Programming/Languages/Transcript/
 
 Open Directory is the world's leading human-edited directory, and helps 
 feed major search engines like Google and others.
 
 Adding your Rev page to Open Directory listing for Transcript will help 
 others find it more easily, and it's easy to do:  just click the 
 Suggest Url link at the top of that page and fill in the very brief 
 form.
 
 The section is editor for that page is amazingly efficient, so you may 
 see your site listed in as little as 48 hours.
 
 -- 
   Richard Gaskin
   Fourth World Media Corporation
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Re: need advise on grid like control...

2004-08-25 Thread Mark Waddingham
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004, Andre Garzia wrote:

 Hi Folks,

 I am building a little project manager here. I would like to be able to
 show a calendar like control so that the user could grasp the big
 picture of his project, like iCal and MS Project do. I am finding the
 ...

Just to add my two-pence to the mix...

You may also want to have a look at the 'lists' in the Revolution Online
Learning Center (e.g. Learning Center - Video Tutorials - All) - this is
effectively a custom table view that uses individual fields for each cell.
It's basically just a group that responds to custom properties and a
handful of messages - it is also entirely devoid of instructions/comments
at the moment, but figuring out how things work is part of the fun, isn't
it? ;o)

It could be optimized somewhat, and made more 'complete' - but it
exemplifies one way of doing things.

Anyway, if it looks useful, I'll happily rip it out of revOnline, clean it
up and make a more user-friendly example stack out of it as soon as I get
the chance.

Best wishes,

Mark.

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Rev equivalent to the php imageColorset ?

2004-08-25 Thread Ludovic Thébault
Hello,

I want to change the color of sectors of an png picture.

Each sector of the picture have an unique color.

With php, and the imageColorSet function, i can replace one color by an 
other in this picture, and colorize each sector as i want.

How do this with Rev (2.1) ? I think i need to use imagedata but i 
didn't understand how.

Thanks.

PS : If a frenchie known the response, he could post in the french rev 
list (my english is bad !)

Ludovic
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playing wavs in RR

2004-08-25 Thread MisterX
I found the problem with wavs playing in RR without the help of
QuickTime. 

Play wavfilepath

Lucky to have a few GBs of samples for FruityLoops that I can
use in RR for effects, I tried a few and some passed and some
didn't. Well, in windows, you can display a column in the explorer's
details (or in the open file dialog) that displays the bitrate.

If the bitrate is above 512, it works! I'll raise a Bugzilla for it.
Can anyone confirm this on Macs or Linux? I can send you a couple 
samples to test if you want.

cheers
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Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 11, Issue 92 SAPI SDK 4

2004-08-25 Thread Pat Trendler
Barry,

http://www.microsoft.com/speech/download/old/sdk40a.asp

You need to download the SAPI SDK 4 Suite.exe  40 MB (not the other
downloads listed there they don't contain the speech engine)


Pat


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Subject: Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 11, Issue 92


 Fair enough but where, pray tell, is one to find version 4.x? A search
at
 ms.com revealed nothing.

 Thanks,
 Barry

 On 8/22/04 10:00 AM, MisterX allegedly flung into the void:

  Subject: RE: Do we have synthetic speech in WindowsXP yet?

  I think there is something about it in the readme...
 
  It's in the what's new actually
 
 
  Issue:  On Windows systems, the Speech library is not yet compatible
with
  version
  5.x of Microsoft's speech software.
  Workaround:  Use version 4.x instead.


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Rev as memory-resident database

2004-08-25 Thread Alex Shaw
hi,
I stumbled upon an old /. article just recently..
http://slashdot.org/features/01/05/03/1434242.shtml
.. An OODBMS is thus a full scale object oriented development environment 
as well as a database management system.

That of course made me think of rev but I've also been thinking about more 
about using rev as my standard database system.. on 32-bit machines that's 
4G (realistically probably 2-3G) of memory space.  For the sort of systems 
i'm building that's quite a bit, and of course old info can be archived etc

With memory so cheap these days the idea of a rev combo server/database 
seems quite feasible..

Memory-resident should mean quick access .. i mean you do away with all the 
complications and extra plumbing needed to plug into external databases.

Has anyone actually tested rev performance on a high memory machine?
Having dreams at the moment of decking out a 64-bit linux machine with some 
G-sticks :)

regards
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Lost the list???

2004-08-25 Thread Jim Carwardine
Don¹t know what¹s happened but I haven¹t gotten any emails for 24 hours.  Is
the list down?  Jim
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Re: playing wavs in RR

2004-08-25 Thread Marian Petrides
Can anyone confirm this on Macs or Linux? I can send you a couple
samples to test if you want.
I'll be glad to try it out on my Mac if you send me some samples.  I 
assume you are talking about using sounds as referenced files, correct. 
As I've posted before, if wav is embedded in the stack, I have no 
problem playing it simply by using play applause

M
On Aug 25, 2004, at 5:30 AM, MisterX wrote:
I found the problem with wavs playing in RR without the help of
QuickTime.
Play wavfilepath
Lucky to have a few GBs of samples for FruityLoops that I can
use in RR for effects, I tried a few and some passed and some
didn't. Well, in windows, you can display a column in the explorer's
details (or in the open file dialog) that displays the bitrate.
If the bitrate is above 512, it works! I'll raise a Bugzilla for it.
Can anyone confirm this on Macs or Linux? I can send you a couple
samples to test if you want.
cheers
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Re: Right click menu on Windows

2004-08-25 Thread Mark Brownell
On Tuesday, August 24, 2004, at 10:11 PM, Brian Yennie wrote:
 What happens if you set the traversalOn
Ah! That reminds me of my rock-climbing days. This is a case of hearing 
about setting the traversalOn and forgetting why. Perhaps it would be 
better to say get your arhs out there. Well, better you than me that 
is.

I'll try that.
Thanks,
Mark
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Re: Rev as memory-resident database

2004-08-25 Thread SimPLsol
We have been experimenting with small databases (50 to 100 meg.) and, so far, 
like the results. It takes a long time to load the data into RAM and a long 
time to save it back to disk in Rev. but while it is in RAM it runs FAST.
A modern computer should be able to hold many large databases in memory.
I think archives, for most companies, probably do not need to be loaded into 
memory. They can be accessed from disk (which in Rev. means being loaded into 
RAM) as needed (and purged from memory when closed).
Initially we were quite concerned about the volatility of RAM. But 
solid-state memory (with proper UPS backup) is probably safer than a mechanical 
Winchester disk.
Keep in touch.
Paul Looney
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Re: Modal app

2004-08-25 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Devin,
I'm writing an OS X app which should only appear as a modal window. I 
tried

modal this stack
in the openStack handler. It works in the IDE but not as a standalone. 
Is there some trick I don't know about? Can a mainstack window be 
modal?
Try:
on preopenstack
   set the style of this stack to modal
   ...
   ...
end preopenstack
Looks the same, but worked for me :-)
Hope that helps...
Devin Asay
Humanities Technology and Research Support Center
Brigham Young University
Regards
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Re: switching between movies

2004-08-25 Thread Mark Talluto
On Aug 24, 2004, at 8:17 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   For whatever mysterious reason, some of my code vanished into the 
ether --
I mean, where did the end switch go, for cryin' out loud!? Let's see 
if I
can get it right this time...

on keydown thekey
  put thekey
  switch theKey
case 1
  put B into OldPlay
  put A into NuPlay
case 2
  put A into OldPlay
  put B into NuPlay
  end switch
  stop player OldPlay
  put the currentTime of player OldPlay into Atime
  hide player OldPlay
  set the currentTime of player NuPlay to Atime
  show player NuPlay
  start player NuPlay
  pass keyDown
end keydown
   Does *this* work better or worse than the original code?

This is very clean.  The only thing to remember is that you need 
breaks to close out each case.  The other issues is that if a user 
clicks on any other key besides a one or a two, you will get an error.  
The speed issues feels the same as the code I posted.

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Re: Do we have synthetic speech in WindowsXP yet?

2004-08-25 Thread Ken Norris (dialup)
on 8/25/04 5:43 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 22:34:17 -0600
 From: Barry Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Do we have synthetic speech in WindowsXP yet?
 
 I'm at the tail end of two years using Rev and we haven't had speech on
 WindowsXP. I'm getting ready to move to RealBasic simply because of this
 issue. Frankly, I'm quite hesitant to pony up any more $$ for Rev if this
 isn't fixed.

I'm afraid I find myself in nearly exactly the same position. Many of my
continuing adaptiveware projects depend on speech/voice feedback, which I've
never been able to make work under Rev and XP.

Ken N.

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Re: Modal app

2004-08-25 Thread Devin Asay
Klaus,
On Aug 25, 2004, at 10:46 AM, Klaus Major wrote:
Hi Devin,
I'm writing an OS X app which should only appear as a modal window. I 
tried

modal this stack
in the openStack handler. It works in the IDE but not as a 
standalone. Is there some trick I don't know about? Can a mainstack 
window be modal?
Try:
on preopenstack
   set the style of this stack to modal
   ...
   ...
end preopenstack
Looks the same, but worked for me :-)
Hope that helps...
Thanks. It worked like a charm.
Devin Asay
Humanities Technology and Research Support Center
Brigham Young University
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RE: Rev as memory-resident database

2004-08-25 Thread Jay Madren
That's not really a good benchmark, unless you report the time in ms.
Accessing a record by key value in any good database should always be  1
second.  Using SQL Server running on my 733mhz PIII desktop with 256 MB ram
(not a server - they call it their Desktop Database), I can retrieve one
record from a 22 MB, 97K-record table by key value (index) in 10 ms.

Now, if you are _not_ talking about indexes when you say key value, then
that would be more impressive (versus a disk-based db).  But it still needs
to be quantified more precisely.

Jay Madren

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Has anyone actually tested rev performance on a high memory machine?

Hi Alex,

Not on a particularly high memory machine: 768 MB G4 iMac supporting
a 45 MB, 43K-record SDB database stack.  Retrieval time for one
record by key value via binary search is  1 second.
--

Rob Cozens
CCW, Serendipity Software Company

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Re: Rev as memory-resident database

2004-08-25 Thread Frank D. Engel, Jr.
Most operating systems split that 4GB address space roughly in half.  
2GB is reserved for the operating system (not half of the physical 
memory, but half of the addresses which can be assigned to the memory), 
and a unique 2GB address space is provided for each process.  Some of 
that unique 2GB address space, toward the beginning and sometimes 
toward the end, is often (intentionally) unusable, in an effort to help 
track bugs in software (there is a reason for this, and it is 
legitimate; if you have (C/C++/Pascal/etc.) programming experience, 
consider NULL pointer dereferences...)   This takes away another 
hundred K or so, and more is taken away by Revolution, by any 
user-level runtime libraries  DLLs referenced by Revolution (both the 
engine and the IDE need to be in that memory space).  Add to this the 
stack code and layout information, any runtime data tracked by 
revolution, global  local variables and properties, your Transcript 
code, and so on...   You don't really have that much memory addressing 
space available for your data.

Note that some operating systems (including some specially configured 
versions of W2K/XP) will allow 3GB of addressing space per process, and 
reserve only 1GB for the operating system.

If your data is larger than 1-1.25GB, do not expect it to fit into a 
32-bit addressing space, even if you have 4GB of RAM and no other 
running programs.  If you have one of those specially configured 
Windows systems (or a similarly configured OS of some other kind -- 
does anyone know if Linux or BSD can be configured that way?), you 
might get 2-2.25GB, maybe a little more, but these numbers are rough 
approximations.  Leave yourself more room than you think you'll need.

Also, even on a 64-bit computer, if Rev is not built to run as a 64-bit 
program, you will still be limited to the 32-bit address space.  And if 
the stack file is too large for the filesystem constraints, you will 
not be able to save it to disk, even if you have a 64-bit address space 
to make use of... many filesystems place a limit on the size of any one 
single file.

So in short, 2-3GB is not necessarily realistic for a 32-bit system ;-)
On Aug 25, 2004, at 8:01 AM, Alex Shaw wrote:
hi,
I stumbled upon an old /. article just recently..
http://slashdot.org/features/01/05/03/1434242.shtml
.. An OODBMS is thus a full scale object oriented development 
environment as well as a database management system.

That of course made me think of rev but I've also been thinking about 
more about using rev as my standard database system.. on 32-bit 
machines that's 4G (realistically probably 2-3G) of memory space.  For 
the sort of systems i'm building that's quite a bit, and of course old 
info can be archived etc

With memory so cheap these days the idea of a rev combo 
server/database seems quite feasible..

Memory-resident should mean quick access .. i mean you do away with 
all the complications and extra plumbing needed to plug into external 
databases.

Has anyone actually tested rev performance on a high memory machine?
Having dreams at the moment of decking out a 64-bit linux machine with 
some G-sticks :)

regards
alex

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Faceless apps in OS X - FYI

2004-08-25 Thread Devin Asay
Ken Ray has this tip posted on his Web Site 
(http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/metacard/tips/proc003.htm)

--quote
 To hide an application process in OS X, open the Info.plist file in 
the Contents folder of the application package. Add this to the dict 
section (it doesn't seem to matter where):

keyNSBGOnly/key
string1/string
 Doing this will remove the process from the Dock, and from any menus 
that list active (visible) processes. To show it again, you can either 
put in a 0 instead of a 1 for the key, or you can remove the whole 
thing.

--end quote
I tried it and it didn't work, then I noticed in the mail list archive 
that this apparently was broken in Panther. I searched Apple Developer 
web site and discovered that the name of the key has been changed to 
LSUIElement.

So insert the following to create a faceless application (one that 
doesn't appear in Force Quit list or in Dock):

key LSUIElement /key
string1/string
It's best to use the Property List Editor application to do this rather 
than a text editor.

Devin
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Humanities Technology and Research Support Center
Brigham Young University
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Re: Do we have synthetic speech in WindowsXP yet?

2004-08-25 Thread Roger . E . Eller
On Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 22:34:17, Barry Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 Subject: RE: Do we have synthetic speech in WindowsXP yet?

 I'm at the tail end of two years using Rev and we haven't had speech on
 WindowsXP. I'm getting ready to move to RealBasic simply because of this
 issue. Frankly, I'm quite hesitant to pony up any more $$ for Rev if 
this
 isn't fixed.

It is very frustrating to see key features left behind for so long just 
because Microsoft decided to move forward. If Apple had done the same 
thing, I would bet that RunRev would have made it work in the very next 
version. Asking the end user to downgrade their speech sdk as a workaround 
is totally wrong!

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Re: Faceless apps in OS X - FYI

2004-08-25 Thread Dar Scott
On Aug 25, 2004, at 11:25 AM, Devin Asay wrote:
I tried it and it didn't work, then I noticed in the mail list archive 
that this apparently was broken in Panther. I searched Apple Developer 
web site and discovered that the name of the key has been changed to 
LSUIElement.
Do you think both can be set without invoking some strange behavior?
Dar

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Re: Do we have synthetic speech in WindowsXP yet?

2004-08-25 Thread Dan Shafer
This is a perfect example of why making a cross-platform tool is so 
hard that very few people who have attempted it have succeeded. Every 
OS, every platform, every deployment configuration is a moving target 
that the tool maker has to try to keep up with despite having 
absolutely no input into or control over how the makers of those 
substrates go about their business of innovation and development.

I suppose that every one of us could come up with a list of things that 
we wish Rev would do. High on my list, e.g., is the ability to have 
truly styled text and styled text editing in fields. One of my dream 
apps demands this. But creating such a tool that would work across just 
the three primary platforms -- Mac OS X, Windows XP, and the core 
distribution of Linux -- would be a HUGE undertaking. (I know; I've 
read specs for it from other developers). Does that mean I am ready or 
willing even to CONSIDER abandoning the best development tool I've ever 
seen for 90% of my work? Or does it mean that I acknowledge that no 
tool, no matter how good it is, will ALWAYS have holes, will always 
have applications for which it simply isn't suited, and either to 
choose not to develop applications for which my favorite tool isn't a 
good choice or find a different tool that will work for what I want to 
do?

So-called real programmers always have two or more languages in their 
tool box. I don't know of any tool that is ideally suited for all kinds 
of applications.

Those who say that if Rev doesn't implement this or that feature, 
they're going to abandon it and move to RealBASIC or some other tool 
are apparently committed to developing applications for which RunRev is 
not the best choice. I say we should wish those people Godspeed and 
send them on their way to a tool that WILL do what they want. Their 
departure isn't a signal that there is something fundamentally wrong 
with Rev, only an acknowledgment that Rev is like all other tools: 
great for a lot of things, not so good for some.

On the other hand, if the tool maker commits to making a particular 
technology or technique work within their tool across the supported 
platform set, then the company owes its developers one of two things: 
completion of the work in a satisfactory manner or a clear statement 
that it will either never happen or won't be a near-term priority. The 
only real mistake that can be made here, from my viewpoint, is for the 
company to try to hold on to developers whose needs it will not clearly 
be able to meet in a reasonable time horizon. This does everyone a 
disservice. (Note that I'm not saying that's happened here; I don't 
rely on synthetic speech for my applications so I am not aware of all 
the history and the issues.)

I now return you to your regularly scheduled conversation.
On Aug 25, 2004, at 10:27 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 22:34:17, Barry Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Subject: RE: Do we have synthetic speech in WindowsXP yet?
I'm at the tail end of two years using Rev and we haven't had speech 
on
WindowsXP. I'm getting ready to move to RealBasic simply because of 
this
issue. Frankly, I'm quite hesitant to pony up any more $$ for Rev if
this
isn't fixed.
It is very frustrating to see key features left behind for so long 
just
because Microsoft decided to move forward. If Apple had done the same
thing, I would bet that RunRev would have made it work in the very next
version. Asking the end user to downgrade their speech sdk as a 
workaround
is totally wrong!

Roger Eller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Database Problems w/ Linux Standalones...

2004-08-25 Thread Frank D. Engel, Jr.
Okay, here is an example of what is happening.
The attached revolution file contains a button and a text field (used 
as a debugging log type of thing).

Again, I use Studio version 2.2.1 under Mac OS X, and I built three 
versions of the standalone: Mac OS X, Windows, and Linux.

The Windows and Mac OS X versions work as advertised, but the Linux 
version seems to exit the handlers after dumping the first line of text 
to the log field.  If I comment out the line with the revOpenDatabase 
and uncomment the second line, then it does not try to connect, so the 
rest of the script works fine.

I could understand better if I was getting an error message back from 
revOpenDatabase, but *all* running handlers seem to be exiting -- not 
just the one containing the function call.

If it would help, I could *try* to get a Solaris/SPARC or Irix opinion 
on the issue, but it will take some time, as I will need to set up the 
hardware (I have those systems disconnected right now), and I don't 
think I even have Solaris installed on my SparcStation (it would be 
version 8, on my painfully slow SS LX).

On Aug 24, 2004, at 6:47 PM, Frank D. Engel, Jr. wrote:
Yes, but even after I changed the text to all lower-case, it still 
doesn't work.

I hadn't even thought of the case sensitivity -- good catch, but still 
not working  :-(

On Aug 24, 2004, at 4:17 PM, Troy Rollins wrote:
On Aug 24, 2004, at 3:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Linux just seems
to be more case-sensitive than Mac or Win.
That would be because it is.  ;-)
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Re: Faceless apps in OS X - FYI

2004-08-25 Thread Ken Ray
On 8/25/04 12:25 PM, Devin Asay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 keyNSBGOnly/key
 string1/string

 So insert the following to create a faceless application (one that
 doesn't appear in Force Quit list or in Dock):
 
 key LSUIElement /key
 string1/string
 
 It's best to use the Property List Editor application to do this rather
 than a text editor.

Thanks for the update, Devin... I'll update my tip accordingly!

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Re: Stack is momentarily solid white (flicker) - OSX

2004-08-25 Thread Troy Rollins
Is it possible to set the loc of a stack before it is opened? I have a 
template stack which I use to create clones from, so it has to be 
called on-screen in order to do the clone operation. When this goes on, 
there is a pretty unsightly flash of the stack appearing, and then 
being quickly cloned and discarded. I'd like to call that stack 
on-screen, but actually have it off-screen... is the only way to 
resolve that flashing by placing scripts in the pre-open stack of the 
stack to be opened, or can I do it somehow from the calling stack?

On Aug 22, 2004, at 4:34 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Try  putting this script in the stack opening window...
on preopenstack
  setBuffer FALSE
end preOpenStack
on openStack
  send setBuffer TRUE to me in 30
end openStack
on setBuffer flag
set the alwaysBuffer of this stack to  flag
if not flag then set the bottomRight of this stack to  -100,-100
else set the loc of this stack to the screenLoc
end  setBuffer
This should solve the situation for any style of window. Please  let 
me know.
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Re: Stack is momentarily solid white (flicker) - OSX

2004-08-25 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Troy Rollins  wrote:

 Is it possible to set the loc of a stack before it is opened?

You should be able to set the loc in preOpenStack.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia  Design
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Re: Stack is momentarily solid white (flicker) - OSX

2004-08-25 Thread Troy Rollins
On Aug 25, 2004, at 4:13 PM, Scott Rossi wrote:

Is it possible to set the loc of a stack before it is opened?
You should be able to set the loc in preOpenStack.
I tried some of that. I guess the issue is not what I thought, but 
more-so the clone operation itself. It seems very difficult to avoid 
some kind of flash when a stack is cloned.
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Re: Database Problems w/ Linux Standalones...

2004-08-25 Thread Pierre Sahores
Hi,
I don't know if that can be helpfull but, if the RevDB feets all my  
PostgreSQL's related needs, i use the following method under the linux  
platform as a workaround to the difficulties you are experimented (and  
because i had to connect PostgreSQL from Metacard, years ago) :

To stick in the preopenstack main's stack handler :
 if the platform is Linux then put psql -h localhost projetsdac -U  
postgres into PgPath
  else
if PGLinkOpen is a number then get revdb_disconnect(projetsdac)
put  
revOpenDatabase(PostgreSQL,localhost,projetsdac,postgres,postg 
res) into PGLinkOpen
  end if
To send the requests to the PostgreSQL server trought the psql's  
command line client (localhost only, because security tasks + TCP/IP  
activated in the postgres hba.conf file) :

The main SQL's parser script to stick in the main stack script :
function presave r
  set itemdel to ¶
  put item 1 of r into s
  put item 2 of r into t
  set itemdel to 
  replace numtochar(10) with ##10;# in s
  replace \' with ##11;# in s
  replace numtochar(34) with ##34;# in s
  replace ##11;###11;# with  in s
  if the platform is macos then put mactoiso(isotomac(s)) into s
  if NRC=insert is in s then put item itemoffset(rneetabl=,s) of s  
 return into datatosave

  repeat for each item i in s
if char 1 to 4 of i is t then put i  return after datatosave
  end repeat
  repeat for each char c in datatosave
try
  if c is _
  then put   after datatosavec
  else if chartonum(c)  223
  then put #  chartonum(c)  ; after datatosavec
  else if chartonum(c)  191
  then put #  chartonum(c)  ; after datatosavec
  else if chartonum(c) = 39
  then put #  chartonum(c)  ; after datatosavec
  else put c after datatosavec
catch errornum
  if c is not char 1 of datatosave
  then if c is not char -1 of datatosave
  then put _ after datatosavec
end try
  end repeat
  set itemdelimiter to /
  put item 2 of the short date  /  item 1 of the short date  /  
 item 3 of the short date into aa
  if length(item 1 of aa) = 1 then put 0 before item 1 of aa
  if length(item 2 of aa) = 1 then put 0 before item 2 of aa
  put 20 before item 3 of aa

  if rneetabl is in datatosavec then
put  (  into insertcolnames
put  values (  into insertcoldatas
repeat for each line l in datatosavec
  if l is line -1 of datatosavec then
put char 1 to 8 of l   )  after insertcolnames
put '  aa  ' )  after insertcoldatas
  else
put char 1 to 8 of l   ,  after insertcolnames
put '  char 10 to -1 of l  ' ,  after insertcoldatas
  end if
end repeat
put insertcolnames  insertcoldatas into updatecols
  else
repeat for each line l in datatosavec
  if l is line -1 of datatosavec then put char 1 to 8 of l  =  
'  aa  ' after updatecols
  else put char 1 to 8 of l  = '  char 10 to -1 of l  ' ,   
after updatecols
end repeat
  end if

  return updatecols
end presave

function parsesql s
  global PgPath,PGLinkOpen
  repeat for each char c in s
try
  if chartonum(c)  223
  then put #  chartonum(c)  ; after t
  else if chartonum(c)  191
  then put #  chartonum(c)  ; after t
  else put c after t
catch errornum
  if c is not char 1 of s
  then if c is not char -1 of s
  then put _ after t
end try
  end repeat
  replace \ with  in t
  replace [ with  in t
  replace ] with \ in t
  if the platform is MacOS then
if select is not in t then get revdb_QueryBLOB(PGLinkOpen,t)
else
  put revdb_QueryList(|,return,PGLinkOpen,t) into pgreply
  repeat for each line l in pgreply
put char 1 to -1+offset(|,l) of l  char offset(|,l) to  
-1 of l  return after d
  end repeat
  return d  (  the num of lines in pgreply  rows)
end if
  else return shell(echo  quote  t  quote  |  PgPath)
end parsesql
and some standard SQL requests using the upon SQL's parser (examples) :
One :
put parsesql(select * from cpacpcst where rneetabl ilike '%  testne  
 %') into sreply
...and an other :
 if char 5 to -1 of item itemoffset(NRC=,PostIn) of PostIn is  
insert then get parsesql(insert into cpacpcst  presave(PostIn   
¶dems))
  else get parsesql(update cpacpcst set  presave(PostIn  ¶dems)  
 where recordid='  char 5 to -1 of item itemoffset(NRC=,PostIn)  
of PostIn  ')
All works very fine in production mode with up to hundreds connections  
peer seconds (75% write-mode), since 09/2000, only under the linux  
platform, the RevDB doing a best job than the upon scripts under the  
Panther platform.

Best Regards,
Pierre
Le 25 août 04, à 20:19, Frank D. Engel, Jr. a écrit :
Okay, here is an example of what is happening.
The attached revolution file contains a button and a text field (used  
as a debugging log type of thing).

Again, I use Studio version 2.2.1 under Mac OS X, and I built three  
versions of the standalone: Mac OS X, Windows, and Linux.

The Windows and Mac OS X versions work as advertised, 

Rép : Database Problems w/ Linux Standalones (correction)...

2004-08-25 Thread Pierre Sahores

Hi,
I don't know if that can be helpfull but, if the RevDB feets all my  
PostgreSQL's related needs under the MacOS X platform, i use the  
following method under the linux platform as a workaround to the  
difficulties you are experimented (and because i had to connect  
PostgreSQL from Metacard, years ago) :

To stick in the preopenstack main's stack handler :
 if the platform is Linux then put psql -h localhost projetsdac -U  
postgres into PgPath
  else
if PGLinkOpen is a number then get revdb_disconnect(projetsdac)
put  
revOpenDatabase(PostgreSQL,localhost,projetsdac,postgres,postg 
res) into PGLinkOpen
  end if
To send the requests to the PostgreSQL server trought the psql's  
command line client (localhost only, because security tasks + TCP/IP  
activated in the postgres hba.conf file) :

The main SQL's parser script to stick in the main stack script :
function presave r
  set itemdel to ¶
  put item 1 of r into s
  put item 2 of r into t
  set itemdel to 
  replace numtochar(10) with ##10;# in s
  replace \' with ##11;# in s
  replace numtochar(34) with ##34;# in s
  replace ##11;###11;# with  in s
  if the platform is macos then put mactoiso(isotomac(s)) into s
  if NRC=insert is in s then put item itemoffset(rneetabl=,s) of s  
 return into datatosave

  repeat for each item i in s
if char 1 to 4 of i is t then put i  return after datatosave
  end repeat
  repeat for each char c in datatosave
try
  if c is _
  then put   after datatosavec
  else if chartonum(c)  223
  then put #  chartonum(c)  ; after datatosavec
  else if chartonum(c)  191
  then put #  chartonum(c)  ; after datatosavec
  else if chartonum(c) = 39
  then put #  chartonum(c)  ; after datatosavec
  else put c after datatosavec
catch errornum
  if c is not char 1 of datatosave
  then if c is not char -1 of datatosave
  then put _ after datatosavec
end try
  end repeat
  set itemdelimiter to /
  put item 2 of the short date  /  item 1 of the short date  /  
 item 3 of the short date into aa
  if length(item 1 of aa) = 1 then put 0 before item 1 of aa
  if length(item 2 of aa) = 1 then put 0 before item 2 of aa
  put 20 before item 3 of aa

  if rneetabl is in datatosavec then
put  (  into insertcolnames
put  values (  into insertcoldatas
repeat for each line l in datatosavec
  if l is line -1 of datatosavec then
put char 1 to 8 of l   )  after insertcolnames
put '  aa  ' )  after insertcoldatas
  else
put char 1 to 8 of l   ,  after insertcolnames
put '  char 10 to -1 of l  ' ,  after insertcoldatas
  end if
end repeat
put insertcolnames  insertcoldatas into updatecols
  else
repeat for each line l in datatosavec
  if l is line -1 of datatosavec then put char 1 to 8 of l  =  
'  aa  ' after updatecols
  else put char 1 to 8 of l  = '  char 10 to -1 of l  ' ,   
after updatecols
end repeat
  end if

  return updatecols
end presave

function parsesql s
  global PgPath,PGLinkOpen
  repeat for each char c in s
try
  if chartonum(c)  223
  then put #  chartonum(c)  ; after t
  else if chartonum(c)  191
  then put #  chartonum(c)  ; after t
  else put c after t
catch errornum
  if c is not char 1 of s
  then if c is not char -1 of s
  then put _ after t
end try
  end repeat
  replace \ with  in t
  replace [ with  in t
  replace ] with \ in t
  if the platform is MacOS then
if select is not in t then get revdb_QueryBLOB(PGLinkOpen,t)
else
  put revdb_QueryList(|,return,PGLinkOpen,t) into pgreply
  repeat for each line l in pgreply
put char 1 to -1+offset(|,l) of l  char offset(|,l) to  
-1 of l  return after d
  end repeat
  return d  (  the num of lines in pgreply  rows)
end if
  else return shell(echo  quote  t  quote  |  PgPath)
end parsesql
and some standard SQL requests using the upon SQL's parser (examples) :
One :
put parsesql(select * from cpacpcst where rneetabl ilike '%  testne  
 %') into sreply
...and an other :
 if char 5 to -1 of item itemoffset(NRC=,PostIn) of PostIn is  
insert then get parsesql(insert into cpacpcst  presave(PostIn   
¶dems))
  else get parsesql(update cpacpcst set  presave(PostIn  ¶dems)  
 where recordid='  char 5 to -1 of item itemoffset(NRC=,PostIn)  
of PostIn  ')
All works very fine in production mode with up to hundreds connections  
peer seconds (75% write-mode), since 09/2000, only under the linux  
platform, the RevDB doing a best job than the upon scripts under the  
Panther platform.

Best Regards,
Pierre
Le 25 août 04, à 20:19, Frank D. Engel, Jr. a écrit :
Okay, here is an example of what is happening.
The attached revolution file contains a button and a text field (used  
as a debugging log type of thing).

Again, I use Studio version 2.2.1 under Mac OS X, and I built three  
versions of the standalone: Mac OS X, Windows, and Linux.

The Windows and Mac OS X 

Re: Faceless apps in OS X - FYI

2004-08-25 Thread Devin Asay
On Aug 25, 2004, at 11:54 AM, Dar Scott wrote:
On Aug 25, 2004, at 11:25 AM, Devin Asay wrote:
I tried it and it didn't work, then I noticed in the mail list 
archive that this apparently was broken in Panther. I searched Apple 
Developer web site and discovered that the name of the key has been 
changed to LSUIElement.
Do you think both can be set without invoking some strange behavior?
I just tried it (setting both the LSUIElement key and the NSBGOnly key) 
in my app, running on OS X 10.3.5. It appears to run just fine. My 
guess is that the OS ignores deprecated or discontinued keys.

Devin
Devin Asay
Humanities Technology and Research Support Center
Brigham Young University
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Re: fixing revxml, thank you!

2004-08-25 Thread Meitnik

In a message dated 8/25/04 4:33:26 PM, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 WRT XML working on Win95, that's on my to-do list and needs to be resolve
 before final.
 -- Tuv, thank you very much. :) 

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Re: Stack is momentarily solid white (flicker) - OSX

2004-08-25 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Troy,
On Aug 25, 2004, at 4:13 PM, Scott Rossi wrote:

Is it possible to set the loc of a stack before it is opened?
You should be able to set the loc in preOpenStack.
I tried some of that. I guess the issue is not what I thought, but 
more-so the clone operation itself.
It seems very difficult to avoid some kind of flash when a stack is 
cloned.
Why not use the more elegant way of storing a template stack in a 
custom property
and spit it out when- and whereever you like WITHOUT flashing? ;-)

See my Analyze it... stack in the 2lz2 palette:
The Contentz stack is in fact stored in a cp and pulled out when 
needed :-)

...
get the templatus_staccus of this stack
go stack ittus
## ehm it :-D
...
Drop a line if you need more insight ;-)
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RPSystems, Ltd.
http://www.rpsystems.net
Regards
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re:Do we have synthetic speech in WindowsXP yet?

2004-08-25 Thread tuviah snyder
Just checked bugzilla and cannot find a feature request or bug report for
speech under xp with sapi 5...

regards,
Tuviah

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hiliteColor

2004-08-25 Thread Troy Rollins
In the startup of my main stack, I have -
set the hiliteColor of this stack to 143,192,202
With the intention of using inheritance to manage a hilite color theme 
throughout - since Window's default dark blue is hideous - with the 
blue, bevel buttons in a depressed state can not even have their labels 
read. Of course, it is working just fine on Mac OSX. I just tested the 
stack on Windows XP, and all fields, buttons, etc. have a hilite color 
which looks completely black - even worse than the default blue. Why 
might that be? Why would those values create a black result on windows? 
Or is it simply not working, and the black is getting introduced 
because of it?
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Re: Stack is momentarily solid white (flicker) - OSX

2004-08-25 Thread Troy Rollins
On Aug 25, 2004, at 4:50 PM, Klaus Major wrote:
Why not use the more elegant way of storing a template stack in a 
custom property
and spit it out when- and whereever you like WITHOUT flashing? ;-)
Interesting indeed. I'll look at this.
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re:Do we have synthetic speech in WindowsXP yet?

2004-08-25 Thread Peter T. Evensen
It was listed as a known issue in the previous release.  That would seem to 
indicate it was something Runrev was working on and wouldn't need to be 
entered into bugzilla...

At 03:51 PM 8/25/2004, you wrote:
Just checked bugzilla and cannot find a feature request or bug report for
speech under xp with sapi 5...
regards,
Tuviah
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Text to Speech in windows

2004-08-25 Thread Stephen King
Hi,

I have raised this a number of times, most recently with regard to my
subscription renewal. I actually bugzilla'd it at least once and it
vanished! I thought I had raised it again on Bugzilla.

One reason it may not have been voted or marked critical could be its a
windows issue. I posted on the potential problem of scoring windows issues
with (what seems as) a predominantly mac based list a short while ago.

I understand that SAPI 4 can be used, but to me the problem of getting SAPI
4 downloaded through an IT department is orders of magnitude greater than
that of QuickTime! I don't think it's really an end user solution.

Cheers
Steve

Tuviah wrote..

 SAPI 4 can co-exist with SAPI 5. As it stands I do have code to get text
to
 speech working with SAPI 5, see if I can squeeze it in between now and
 release. I'm just wondering what bugzilla number is this, and why hasn't
it
 been voted on or marked critical?!

 WRT XML working on Win95, that's on my to-do list and needs to be resolve
 before final.

 Best,
 Tuviah

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Re: Text to Speech in windows

2004-08-25 Thread Judy Perry
Well, I, as a Mac user, for one, do not agree.  I was happy when TTS was
made available for Windows, as well as when Jonathan made a Windows
version of Shakobox.

I don't want features to be broken under windows... and this isn't because
it affects my bottom line (thin as it is), either.

OTOH, consider the perspective of the perhaps typical Mac Rev user:  we've
become accustomed to such things as TTS and scripted musical notation, and
(for others) tying AppleScript to our stacks.  To not have these things
would be a step backwards for us.

Perhaps now that Tuviah is aware of the issue, it will be fixed.  That's
my hope, anyway...

Judy

On Wed, 25 Aug 2004, Stephen King wrote:

 One reason it may not have been voted or marked critical could be its a
 windows issue. I posted on the potential problem of scoring windows issues
 with (what seems as) a predominantly mac based list a short while ago.

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re:Do we have synthetic speech in WindowsXP yet?

2004-08-25 Thread Judy Perry
Perhaps, but I KNOW it's been discussed on list before... and I think
there's even some sort of tech note/read me kinda thing that acknowledges
the problem/issue... and that it was being fixed?

Judy

On Wed, 25 Aug 2004, tuviah snyder wrote:

 Just checked bugzilla and cannot find a feature request or bug report for
 speech under xp with sapi 5...

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re:Do we have synthetic speech in WindowsXP yet?

2004-08-25 Thread Judy Perry
Remember that I brought it up at the first rev chat session, too.

Judy

On Wed, 25 Aug 2004, tuviah snyder wrote:

 Just checked bugzilla and cannot find a feature request or bug report for
 speech under xp with sapi 5...

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FTP Download Problem

2004-08-25 Thread Jerry Daniels
Gang,
I'm trying to download a stack from my server at IPowerWeb using xTalk 
in an application, It does not throw an error, but, instead, downloads 
a file with 0 bytes. My xTalk looks something like this:

put URL theRemoteURL into URL theLocalURL
I can upload with no problems using the same URLs (in reversed 
positions, of course). If I change my download to an HTTP one, it works 
flawlessly. These are small to medium sized files, so I don't think 
that in this case size matters. GRIN

I've also tried the libURL call libURLDownloadToFile and get 
identical results to my script above.

I've thought maybe it's the way my server is configured. I've added the 
mime type for .rev files. I can download files from my server using its 
own web-based services, so I know it's possible.

Thanks, in advance, for any advice.
Jerry
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Align Objects.exe?

2004-08-25 Thread Erik Hansen

has someone already writen an
alt Align Objects.exe?

so the user can move objects around as in the
development IDE. creating temporary clusters
and moving them with the mouse or arrow keys.

HC Power Tools was something along those lines.

Thank You,

Erik Hansen

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Re: Stack is momentarily solid white (flicker) - OSX

2004-08-25 Thread Ken Ray
On 8/25/04 3:21 PM, Troy Rollins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I tried some of that. I guess the issue is not what I thought, but
 more-so the clone operation itself. It seems very difficult to avoid
 some kind of flash when a stack is cloned.

Theoretically you can save the original stack in an invisible state and
then when you clone it you only see the new (not the original stack).


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Re: hiliteColor

2004-08-25 Thread Ken Ray
On 8/25/04 3:54 PM, Troy Rollins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In the startup of my main stack, I have -
 
 set the hiliteColor of this stack to 143,192,202
 
 With the intention of using inheritance to manage a hilite color theme
 throughout - since Window's default dark blue is hideous - with the
 blue, bevel buttons in a depressed state can not even have their labels
 read. Of course, it is working just fine on Mac OSX. I just tested the
 stack on Windows XP, and all fields, buttons, etc. have a hilite color
 which looks completely black - even worse than the default blue. Why
 might that be? Why would those values create a black result on windows?
 Or is it simply not working, and the black is getting introduced
 because of it?

I just tried it under Rev 2.2 on XP (created a simple stack with a button
and executed your set the hiliteColor from the message box), and it works
just fine here.

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software
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HTMLText Errors

2004-08-25 Thread Derek Bump
I've been playing with the HTMLText property and use the function below to convert the 
HTML to CSS.  I'm just running into 1 problem though.  When the text size is 10, the 
HTMLText property will not attach the size=10 attributes to the font tag.  Any 
idea why?  Any ideas on a way around this?

function HTMLtoCSS theResult
   replace (quote  ) with ;  in theResult
   replace (pfont face= quote) with (span style= quote font-family: ) in 
theResult
   replace ( size= quote) with ( font-size: ) in theResult
   replace ( color= quote #) with ( color: ) in theResult
   replace (/font/p) with (/span/br) in theResult
   replace p/p with br in theResult
   return (p  theResult  /p)
end HTMLtoCSS
 

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Re: re:Do we have synthetic speech in WindowsXP yet?

2004-08-25 Thread tuviah snyder
Note revspeech.dll has been updated to support SAPI 5 for 2.5. You will
however have to choose between two versions of the external one that is
compatible with SAPI 4 and the other one which is compatible between with
SAPI 5. The one for SAPI 5 will be included in the distro by default. If
your using Win95, note that you will have to use SAPI 4 as SAPI doesn't work
with this OS...

Best,
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Re: re:Do we have synthetic speech in WindowsXP yet?

2004-08-25 Thread Judy Perry
Thank you, Tuviah :-D

Judy

On Wed, 25 Aug 2004, tuviah snyder wrote:

 Note revspeech.dll has been updated to support SAPI 5 for 2.5. You will
 however have to choose between two versions of the external one that is
 compatible with SAPI 4 and the other one which is compatible between with
 SAPI 5. The one for SAPI 5 will be included in the distro by default. If
 your using Win95, note that you will have to use SAPI 4 as SAPI doesn't work
 with this OS...

 Best,
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Re: HTMLText Errors

2004-08-25 Thread Derek Bump
 I've been playing with the HTMLText property and use the function below to convert 
 the HTML to CSS.  I'm just running into 1 problem though.  When the text size is 
 10, the HTMLText property will not attach the size=10 attributes to the font 
 tag.  Any idea why?  Any ideas on a way around this?

I figured it out.  It bases the default font size off the field's font size. So by 
setting it to a number that is not used, it always adds the size tag.  Thanks anyways.
 

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Re: re:Do we have synthetic speech in WindowsXP yet?

2004-08-25 Thread Pat Trendler
Ah ...I was just in the middle of composing a very long whingeing email
...

Now all I get to say is Thanks!!


Pat


- Original Message - 
From: Judy Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: How to use Revolution [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: tuviah snyder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: re:Do we have synthetic speech in WindowsXP yet?


 Thank you, Tuviah :-D

 Judy

 On Wed, 25 Aug 2004, tuviah snyder wrote:

  Note revspeech.dll has been updated to support SAPI 5 for 2.5. You will
  however have to choose between two versions of the external one that is
  compatible with SAPI 4 and the other one which is compatible between
with
  SAPI 5. The one for SAPI 5 will be included in the distro by default. If
  your using Win95, note that you will have to use SAPI 4 as SAPI doesn't
work
  with this OS...
 
  Best,
  Tuviah
 
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writing an OS X package from a custom property

2004-08-25 Thread Scott Morrow
What I would like to do is store an OS X package (osax scripting 
addition) as a custom property in my application so that I can install 
it later onto the user's machine if they require it.  In order to load 
the package I've tried the usual:

on mouseUp
  answer file Select a file:
  if it is empty then exit to top
  put it into tFile
  put URL(binfile:tFile) into tData
  put compress(tData) into tData
  set the uOSAX of stack tester to tData
end mouseUp
the result of trying to read the package is:  error reading file 
I've tried some less orthodox  methods of getting the package into the 
custom property as well but whatever I store invariably gets written 
out again as a file rather than a package.

Rev 2.1.2  /  OS X 10.3.5  /  G5
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Text to speech Bugzilla'd (#2069)

2004-08-25 Thread Barry Levine
Tuviah,

I did not realize that work had -not- been progressing on text-to-speech for
Windws XP (SAPI5). I have started a Bugzilla thread (#2069). The lack of
text-to-speech on WindowsXP is all that prevents me from releasing an
important app (important to my client and me).

I complained about this about a year ago and was told that I could use SAPI4
as a temporary measure until the Rev component for XP text to speech was
done. SAPI4 can't be found at Microsoft as they've removed all reference to
it. I assumed that it would just be a matter of months so I didn't Bugzilla
it nor complain.

I appreciate your efforts to make this part of the next release!

Thanks,
Barry


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 SAPI 4 can co-exist with SAPI 5. As it stands I do have code to get text to
 speech working with SAPI 5, see if I can squeeze it in between now and
 release. I'm just wondering what bugzilla number is this, and why hasn't it
 been voted on or marked critical?!


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Re: re:Do we have synthetic speech in WindowsXP yet?

2004-08-25 Thread Roger . E . Eller
Thank you very much Tuviah! Not to seem ungrateful, but can you do 
anything to achieve TTS in the various supported unix flavors?

Roger Eller [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Note revspeech.dll has been updated to support SAPI 5 for 2.5. You will
 however have to choose between two versions of the external one that is
 compatible with SAPI 4 and the other one which is compatible between 
with
 SAPI 5. The one for SAPI 5 will be included in the distro by default. If
 your using Win95, note that you will have to use SAPI 4 as SAPI doesn't 
work
 with this OS...
 
 Best,
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Re: writing an OS X package from a custom property

2004-08-25 Thread Ken Ray
On 8/25/04 8:22 PM, Scott Morrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What I would like to do is store an OS X package (osax scripting
 addition) as a custom property in my application so that I can install
 it later onto the user's machine if they require it.  In order to load
 the package I've tried the usual:
 
 on mouseUp
answer file Select a file:
if it is empty then exit to top
put it into tFile
put URL(binfile:tFile) into tData
put compress(tData) into tData
set the uOSAX of stack tester to tData
 end mouseUp
 
 the result of trying to read the package is:  error reading file 

Did you try storing the OSAX as a custom property but not compressed? I seem
to remember some issues with compression and custom properties...

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Re: Align Objects.exe?

2004-08-25 Thread Roger . E . Eller
Erik,

The align option in the object properties menu works fine for my needs 
MOST of the time... although I wish it had undo capability. I can 
multi-select objects and move them around using the arrow keys (as long as 
the cursor is not clicked inside a field). By clusters, do you mean 
groups?

Roger Eller [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Erik Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 has someone already writen an
 alt Align Objects.exe?
 ...so the user can move objects around as in
 the development IDE. creating temporary clusters
 and moving them with the mouse or arrow keys.

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Re: writing an OS X package from a custom property

2004-08-25 Thread Dar Scott
On Aug 25, 2004, at 7:22 PM, Scott Morrow wrote:
What I would like to do is store an OS X package (osax scripting 
addition) as a custom property in my application so that I can install 
it later onto the user's machine if they require it.
A package is not a single file.  Think .app and .bundle.
Dar

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Re: Stack is momentarily solid white (flicker) - OSX

2004-08-25 Thread Sarah Reichelt
Is it possible to set the loc of a stack before it is opened?
You should be able to set the loc in preOpenStack.
I tried some of that. I guess the issue is not what I thought, but 
more-so the clone operation itself. It seems very difficult to avoid 
some kind of flash when a stack is cloned.
Here's what I do:
BEFORE cloning the stack, set a custom property of the template stack. 
In this example, I set the cStoredRect of the template to the the rect 
I want. Then I have this handler in the stack or card script of the 
template stack:

on preOpenStack
  go invisible to this stack
  if the cStoredRect of this stack is not empty
  then set the rect of this stack to the cStoredRect of this stack
end preOpenStack
After setting the display, I then show the newly cloned stack. This 
works really well and I get no flickers.

Cheers,
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Re: FTP Download Problem

2004-08-25 Thread Sarah Reichelt
I'm trying to download a stack from my server at IPowerWeb using xTalk 
in an application, It does not throw an error, but, instead, downloads 
a file with 0 bytes. My xTalk looks something like this:

put URL theRemoteURL into URL theLocalURL
I can upload with no problems using the same URLs (in reversed 
positions, of course). If I change my download to an HTTP one, it 
works flawlessly. These are small to medium sized files, so I don't 
think that in this case size matters. GRIN

I've also tried the libURL call libURLDownloadToFile and get 
identical results to my script above.

I've thought maybe it's the way my server is configured. I've added 
the mime type for .rev files. I can download files from my server 
using its own web-based services, so I know it's possible.

Here's the download handler I use (slightly edited, so not tested in 
exactly this form):

on startDownload pFileName
  put ftp://; into tURL
  put fld FTPuser  : after tURL
  put fld FTPpass  @ after tURL
  put fld FTPserver  / after tURL
  put fld FTPfolder  / after tURL
  put pFileName after tURL
  put fld SaveFolder  pFileName into tSaveName
  set the fileType  to 

  libURLDownloadToFile tURL, tSaveName, downloadDone
end startDownload
downloadDone is the name of the handler that gets called when the 
download is finished.

For testing purposes, I would recommend that you create a log field and 
use the libURLSetLogField command to have the transcript of the FTP 
session shown to you. This will tell you where any problem is 
occurring.

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Re: Do we have synthetic speech in WindowsXP yet?

2004-08-25 Thread Richard Gaskin
Dan Shafer wrote:
I suppose that every one of us could come up with a list of things that 
we wish Rev would do. High on my list, e.g., is the ability to have 
truly styled text and styled text editing in fields. One of my dream 
apps demands this. But creating such a tool that would work across just 
the three primary platforms -- Mac OS X, Windows XP, and the core 
distribution of Linux -- would be a HUGE undertaking.
What aspects of working with styled text would you like to see implemented?
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Re: revspeech.dll - three questions

2004-08-25 Thread Barry Levine
Tuviah,

When the 2.5 release is ready for public consumption (I don't have it),
where would the revspeech.dll file be placed in order to provide the
text-to-speech function?

Will there be any difference in how I am to code the handler between OSX and
XP versions of the distribution?

Where may I DL the 2.5 beta?

Thanks,
Barry

On 8/25/04 8:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 20:01:45 -0400
 From: tuviah snyder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: re:Do we have synthetic speech in WindowsXP yet?
 
 Note revspeech.dll has been updated to support SAPI 5 for 2.5. You will
 however have to choose between two versions of the external one that is
 compatible with SAPI 4 and the other one which is compatible between with
 SAPI 5. The one for SAPI 5 will be included in the distro by default. If
 your using Win95, note that you will have to use SAPI 4 as SAPI doesn't work
 with this OS...
 
 Best,
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Re: revspeech.dll - three questions

2004-08-25 Thread Marian Petrides
From a posting by Kevin Miller re: 2.5b2:
The URLs are as follows.  In this release we have included both Linux  
and
Classic builds, along with Mac OS X and Windows:

Linux:
http://www.runrev.com/downloads/distributions/2.5B2/linux.tgz
http://www.runrev.com/downloads/distributions/2.5B2/revolution-2.5- 
b2.i386.r
pm

Mac OS X:
http://www.runrev.com/downloads/distributions/2.5B2/revolutionosx.dmg
Mac OS Classic:
http://www.runrev.com/downloads/distributions/2.5B2/revolution.sit
Windows (no installer):
http://www.runrev.com/downloads/distributions/2.5B2/revolution.zip
Windows (with installer):
http://www.runrev.com/downloads/distributions/2.5B2/revsetup.exe
Please note this version requires a new key.  If your license has not
expired you can request a new key be issued automatically from:
http://www.runrev.com/revolution/updatekeyrequest.shtml

On Aug 25, 2004, at 11:31 PM, Barry Levine wrote:
Tuviah,
When the 2.5 release is ready for public consumption (I don't have it),
where would the revspeech.dll file be placed in order to provide the
text-to-speech function?
Will there be any difference in how I am to code the handler between  
OSX and
XP versions of the distribution?

Where may I DL the 2.5 beta?
Thanks,
Barry
On 8/25/04 8:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] allegedly flung into the  
void:

Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 20:01:45 -0400
From: tuviah snyder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: re:Do we have synthetic speech in WindowsXP yet?
Note revspeech.dll has been updated to support SAPI 5 for 2.5. You  
will
however have to choose between two versions of the external one that  
is
compatible with SAPI 4 and the other one which is compatible between  
with
SAPI 5. The one for SAPI 5 will be included in the distro by default.  
If
your using Win95, note that you will have to use SAPI 4 as SAPI  
doesn't work
with this OS...

Best,
Tuviah

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Re: FTP Download Problem

2004-08-25 Thread Andre Garzia
Jerry,
Can you use a libURLSetLogField command and send me the output, we 
could look for invalid commands or behaviour... I am now deep into ftp 
and http specs here! I even printed them!

PS: are you going to malta?
Andre

On Aug 25, 2004, at 7:56 PM, Jerry Daniels wrote:
Gang,
I'm trying to download a stack from my server at IPowerWeb using xTalk 
in an application, It does not throw an error, but, instead, downloads 
a file with 0 bytes. My xTalk looks something like this:

put URL theRemoteURL into URL theLocalURL
I can upload with no problems using the same URLs (in reversed 
positions, of course). If I change my download to an HTTP one, it 
works flawlessly. These are small to medium sized files, so I don't 
think that in this case size matters. GRIN

I've also tried the libURL call libURLDownloadToFile and get 
identical results to my script above.

I've thought maybe it's the way my server is configured. I've added 
the mime type for .rev files. I can download files from my server 
using its own web-based services, so I know it's possible.

Thanks, in advance, for any advice.
Jerry
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Re: Missing tutorial

2004-08-25 Thread Richard Gaskin
Devin Asay wrote:
Richard,
It's really a site meant to support a course that we teach. I suspect 
one of them has taken the site down to update it for classes that start 
next week.

wait 1800
In fact, I just checked our web server. That is apparently what 
happened. You can access the old site at 
http://chum.byu.edu/classes/chum281ob/ .

Maybe what we should do, if there is interest, is reformat the Rev 
content part of the site (minus the class-specific stuff) as a public 
reference site.
That would be great. The lecture notes there are very helpful.
Thanks for posting the current URL.  I've updated my listings of Rev 
tutorials at:
http://www.fourthworld.com/rev/index.html

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Re: FTP Download Problem

2004-08-25 Thread Jerry Daniels
Thanks, Sarah and Andre...
I'll try the log approach. See if Andre can spot the anomaly.
No, not going to Malta. Not a Revolution conference junkie, yet!
-JD
On Aug 25, 2004, at 10:01 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote:
I'm trying to download a stack from my server at IPowerWeb using 
xTalk in an application, It does not throw an error, but, instead, 
downloads a file with 0 bytes. My xTalk looks something like this:

put URL theRemoteURL into URL theLocalURL
I can upload with no problems using the same URLs (in reversed 
positions, of course). If I change my download to an HTTP one, it 
works flawlessly. These are small to medium sized files, so I don't 
think that in this case size matters. GRIN

I've also tried the libURL call libURLDownloadToFile and get 
identical results to my script above.

I've thought maybe it's the way my server is configured. I've added 
the mime type for .rev files. I can download files from my server 
using its own web-based services, so I know it's possible.

Here's the download handler I use (slightly edited, so not tested in 
exactly this form):

on startDownload pFileName
  put ftp://; into tURL
  put fld FTPuser  : after tURL
  put fld FTPpass  @ after tURL
  put fld FTPserver  / after tURL
  put fld FTPfolder  / after tURL
  put pFileName after tURL
  put fld SaveFolder  pFileName into tSaveName
  set the fileType  to 

  libURLDownloadToFile tURL, tSaveName, downloadDone
end startDownload
downloadDone is the name of the handler that gets called when the 
download is finished.

For testing purposes, I would recommend that you create a log field 
and use the libURLSetLogField command to have the transcript of the 
FTP session shown to you. This will tell you where any problem is 
occurring.

Cheers,
Sarah
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anyone here would use simple httpd or ftpd code?

2004-08-25 Thread Andre Garzia
hi folks,
I am building this huge lib for handling netservices like http and ftp. 
Although I am not near my milestone 1, it's pretty usable so I was 
wondering if anyone here is really waiting for this and would like a 
libNetServices Lite version. What it can currently do is:

* Serve Pages, both dynamic stacks and static pages.
* Serve files by ftp both passive and active ftp.
* XML-RPC Server Side.
missing parts are: FTP Resume and Upload, Cookie Handling (actually you 
can read them, not set them right now).

hugz
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