Re: Mac Classic Apps Run Under OS X but Not On Native Classic
On 10/09/2004, at 3:22 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jeanne A. E. DeVoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 10 September 2004 3:56:50 AM To: How to use Revolution [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Mac Classic Apps Run Under OS X but Not On Native Classic Reply-To: How to use Revolution [EMAIL PROTECTED] Good point. I agree. (Although now I'm wondering whether there should be a separate OS function, with the platform becoming simplified -- Mac, Windows, or Unix -- and the OS being more specific, e.g. OSX or Classic or MacOS, Win95 or Win2000 or WinXP, or the various Unix flavors, etc. Stop me before I rewrite syntax again! ;-) Jeanne, I actually like the idea of separate platform and flavours functions along the lines you suggest above. I've been implementing something very similar to this for a 'user-agent' routine I've incorporated in a cross-tool (Director/Flash/Revolution) script library I'm working on. Cheers, Terry... Dr Terry Judd Lecturer in Educational Technology (Design) Biomedical Multimedia Unit Faculty of Medicine, Dentistry Health Sciences The University of Melbourne ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Drag and Drop
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 21:16:31 -0300 From: Jim Carwardine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Drag Drop I recall a discussion a few months ago about dragging and dropping but I don't remember the details. I'd like to drag drop text from one field in a sub stack to another field in another sub stack. I'd also like to drag-Copy an object to make a clone of it. Can anyone point me to a source of drag drop scripting?.. Jim Examples for this used to be on the runrev site but are gone now. If I manage to find those old versions posted by someone long ago, before anyone else does, i'll host them on my server and send the URL. While we are on the subject, how does one manage to add drag to application functionality to rev based application icons and stacks? Mr Bill ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Inheritance in Revolution?
Because that solution divorces the object from it's code and data. I do use libraries, but only for stand-alone functions that are clearly not object behaviours. I've discovered that I'm not really talking about inheritance here, but more class instantiation. Revolution only embraces the thought that every object is an instantiation of a single base class implementing a singleton pattern. I'd like to be able to declare a single object as a class from which I can instantiate multiple copies of it wherever I need them. I think some of the workarounds are genuinely clever, but a poor substitute actual classes. I don't need Rev to be a true OOL, I just think script sharing sounds very cool. In the mean time, I might as well go at the library approach. Is there any limit to the number of back scripts I can have? Is there a certain number after which my program might start to bog down? Why not just create a library and 'start using' it? Then you could do something like: on mouseUp if the myCustomPropFavoriteColor of btn xyz is blue then do stuff etc... end if pass mouseUp end mouseUp Now, all you need to do is create a custom property of the control you wish to handle and you've effectively done what it is you want. I use this technique all the time. You could also use this as a FrontScript as well, though the library method is 'cleaner.' -Chipp Arthur Urban wrote: I probably wasn't as clear as I could have been. These 50 buttons all live on different cards, different sub-stacks, etc. Think of this ability as one might approach a Password Field. You'd write the clever text hiding code in the field's script, and then maybe use this field in two or three different locations. When you discover that bug, you just change the master script, and no matter where the other buttons happen to be, they gain the benefit of the fix without extra copy/paste efforts. This is probably too cool a feature to ever actually see, but I can hope. What do the Rev Developers think? Wouldn't this add a tremendous level of code (and object) reusability, not to mention data/code encapsulation? ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use- revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Audio w/o Quicktime on PCs
At 21:47 08.09.2004 -0400, you wrote: I have been having some problems trying to play audio files (wav files) in a player w/o quicktime on windows. the players in mc, rev 2.1 or 2.5 will play wav files fine with quicktime on windows, but if i set dontuseqt to true on preopenstack or dont have quicktime installed on the machine, the audio files will not play. documentation says that audio files and video files (to some extent) should play w/o quicktime on windows. This happens on XP, 2000, and 98. the player is visible with no controller and buffered (although those dont matter). anyone have any ideas of why this is not functioning the way the documentation says? Has anyone played audio files on windows w/o quicktime using a player (ie not an audioclip). Hello, using mciSendString will take care of yours needs. The scripts below will give you some ideas. function myMCI tstring put mciSendString(tstring) into returnValue get the result if the result is not empty then return error else return returnValue end if end myMCI function playmysound gShortname --Viderevar: global gLongName --the complete name and path --Startvar: global ttime get myMCI(close myaudio) --OPEN put open quote gLongName quote type waveaudio alias myaudio into tstring get myMCI(tstring) --GET LENGTH put myMCI(status myaudio length) into ttime if ttime is error or ttime is not a number then put 0 into ttime return ttime end if --PLAY if myMCI(play myaudio from 0) is error then return 0 end if return ttime end playmysound on mouseUp global gLongName put C:/PROGRA~2/MetaCard/Program/FRAAND~2/t2_01m.wav into gLongName put t2_01m.wav into gShortname if there is a file gLongName then get playMySound (gShortname) end mouseUp Regards Signe Marie Sanne 1. amanuensis Signe Marie Sanne e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Romansk Institutttel: +47 55 58 21 27 Øisteins gt. 1 5007 Bergen http://www.hf.uib.no/hfolk/mlab/Info/sms.html Norway ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev cgi, PostgreSQL and standalones
Hello Jan, Alejandro, Robert, JB, I couldn't upload the rev's web app example i expected to share on my revonline account in response to your mails ;-! Is it my mistake or a bug in the Rev 2.5 build 2 issue (buildnumber 9, 2.6.1 engine) i'm currently using ? I will put some of the old posts together in a more suitable pdf file, hopefully next WE. If that can help to win time, i can post, off-list, a simple complete example app (linux and panther compatible) as a zip archive. Best, Pierre Le 9 sept. 04, à 12:50, Jan Schenkel a écrit : --- Robert Brenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Alejandro, I'm a little confused about a so kindly congratulations. Thank you ;) I plan to write 80 pages about the subject in the first quarter of 2005, freely available to the MC/Rev community and, if possible, to find a fench publisher interested in printing a paper issue dedicated to help to let know more about the Rev based n-tier apps scope... Best Regards, Pierre Praise is quite in order. However, Pierre, could it be too much to ask to combine your list posts and convert into a short comprehensive info for us to use sooner? You have really given lots of useful tidbits over time but as others stated the info is spread in different emails and varying level of detail, thus hard to use. Having it all together would be greatly appreciated. Robert Brenstein I second this : as I'm just starting out with PHP at the moment, I'd love to leverage my Transcript knowledge to use Rev as an application server for my business logic, and build a rock-solid n-tier system that can handle plenty of connections and would only require customers to run a single server, unlike the Windows world where you'll often see 3 servers doing what you and I would do with a single Linux of MacOS X Server. Jan Schenkel. = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) ../... We arrive very new at the various ages of the life, and often miss there we of experience, in spite of the number of the years. - Nous arrivons tout nouveaux aux divers âges de la vie, et nous y manquons souvent d'expérience, malgré le nombre des années. (La Rochefoucauld) -- Bien cordialement, Pierre Sahores 100, rue de Paris F - 77140 Nemours [EMAIL PROTECTED] GSM: +33 6 03 95 77 70 Pro: +33 1 64 45 05 33 Fax: +33 1 64 45 05 33 WEB/EAI services ACID DB over IP Mutualiser les deltas de productivité ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Param() Oddity
Thank you for that helpful explanation. At least I get it now. So as long as I'm just passing strings and numbers, I'm okay. Appears as if the Transcript could use and 'object' type-cast command ala value. go object( param(1) ) get the myProperty of object( param(1) ) Why is Revolution complicated in areas it should be elegant? ~~~ Arthur Submit it as an enhancement request to Bugzilla. Robert ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Inheritance in Revolution?
Because that solution divorces the object from it's code and data. I do use libraries, but only for stand-alone functions that are clearly not object behaviours. I've discovered that I'm not really talking about inheritance here, but more class instantiation. Revolution only embraces the thought that every object is an instantiation of a single base class implementing a singleton pattern. I'd like to be able to declare a single object as a class from which I can instantiate multiple copies of it wherever I need them. I think some of the workarounds are genuinely clever, but a poor substitute actual classes. I don't need Rev to be a true OOL, I just think script sharing sounds very cool. In the mean time, I might as well go at the library approach. Is there any limit to the number of back scripts I can have? Is there a certain number after which my program might start to bog down? If your stacks are all in a single stack file, you can place the common script in the stack script of the mainstack to achieve the desired effect. Trying to instantiate across different stack files is not correct. Each stack file is an independent program so do speak even if they collaborate in your project. A truly shared script can be accessed from multiple stack files using either the library or frontscript approach. If the integration is really tight, you can resort to send or call for remote instantiation. Robert Brenstein ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
lots of stack to manage....
Hello all, i've developped a kind of wee-IDE to manage the edition and compilation of scripts to be able to drive a Laboratory Automation Workstation. In the first version, for every script ( laboratory experiment ) i had a folder with few files and folders. Now, i would like to make a stack for every experiment; such a stack will contains the Datas of all the old files using custom properties; but nothing more ( no user interface ). The size can be from 100kb up to 2 Mbyte of texts by stack. Would like to manage around 100 of these stacks. So, in the IDE, would like to be able to see the hundred stacks name in one field; so the user can choose one of them with one click. My question is How to manage a list of all these stacks without putting them into RAM, except when the user choose One. Any tricks, ideas will be very much welcomed :-) Regards, thierry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: GraphMaker???
Thanks, Xavier. This is exactly what I was looking for. Do you know if anyone has integrated your pie charts with Kenneth's line charts. I actually need both. What is your shareware fee for me to gain access to your source code? Jim on 9/8/04 10:05 AM, MisterX wrote: Jim, http://www.rpi.edu/~simonk/technical.html from Kenneth Simons is an excellent tool to make line graphs. and I made a pie chart stack myself which is available at http://monsieurx.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=162 cheers Xavier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Carwardine Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 12:24 To: Revolution Listserve Subject: GraphMaker??? Has anyone converted the HC GraphMaker stack to Rev? Is there a better Rev solution? Jim -- OYF is... Highly resourceful people working together. http://www.OwnYourFuture-net.com Own Your Future Consulting Services Limited, 1959 Upper Water Street, Suite 407, Halifax, Nova Scotia. B3J 3N2 Info Line: 902-823-2477, Phone: 902-823-2339. Fax: 902-823-2139 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- OYF is... Highly resourceful people working together. http://www.OwnYourFuture-net.com Own Your Future Consulting Services Limited, 1959 Upper Water Street, Suite 407, Halifax, Nova Scotia. B3J 3N2 Info Line: 902-823-2477, Phone: 902-823-2339. Fax: 902-823-2139 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: lots of stack to manage....
Bon jour Thierry, Hello all, i've developped a kind of wee-IDE to manage the edition and compilation of scripts to be able to drive a Laboratory Automation Workstation. In the first version, for every script ( laboratory experiment ) i had a folder with few files and folders. Now, i would like to make a stack for every experiment; such a stack will contains the Datas of all the old files using custom properties; but nothing more ( no user interface ). The size can be from 100kb up to 2 Mbyte of texts by stack. Would like to manage around 100 of these stacks. So, in the IDE, would like to be able to see the hundred stacks name in one field; so the user can choose one of them with one click. My question is How to manage a list of all these stacks without putting them into RAM, except when the user choose One. Any tricks, ideas will be very much welcomed :-) OK, i am sure you know that a list field will be the solution for the display of all available files...?! ;-) When the user clicks, you can retrieve any custom property of that stack WITHOUT opening that stack! Of course that stack will be read into memory, but with almost no overhead and no part of that stack will be visible! Example: A list-field with lots of filenames of your stacks... ... C:/Folder1/folder1/a_stack.rev C:... ... Now put something like this into the script of that list-field: on mouseup put the selectedtext of me into target_file put the whatsoever of stack target_file into yadda ## do something with yadda :-) end mouseup You get the picture... Hope that helps... Regards, thierry Au revoir Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: lots of stack to manage....
Thierry, Just list the files in a field! If you create one file, add them to the index stack and that's about it. If they don't go all in one folder, you can add a hidden field with the paths of the stacks... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: vendredi 10 septembre 2004 11:19 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: lots of stack to manage Hello all, i've developped a kind of wee-IDE to manage the edition and compilation of scripts to be able to drive a Laboratory Automation Workstation. In the first version, for every script ( laboratory experiment ) i had a folder with few files and folders. Now, i would like to make a stack for every experiment; such a stack will contains the Datas of all the old files using custom properties; but nothing more ( no user interface ). The size can be from 100kb up to 2 Mbyte of texts by stack. Would like to manage around 100 of these stacks. So, in the IDE, would like to be able to see the hundred stacks name in one field; so the user can choose one of them with one click. My question is How to manage a list of all these stacks without putting them into RAM, except when the user choose One. Any tricks, ideas will be very much welcomed :-) Regards, thierry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: lots of stack to manage....
Hello Revolution's users, In the first version, for every script ( laboratory experiment ) i had a folder with few files and folders. Now, i would like to make a stack for every experiment; such a stack will contains the Datas of all the old files using custom properties; but nothing more ( no user interface ). The size can be from 100kb up to 2 Mbyte of texts by stack. Would like to manage around 100 of these stacks. So, in the IDE, would like to be able to see the hundred stacks name in one field; so the user can choose one of them with one click. My question is How to manage a list of all these stacks without putting them into RAM, except when the user choose One. Any tricks, ideas will be very much welcomed :-) Well, thanks a lot especially to xavier, klaus ( Vielen Danke ), Robert... 1) Ok for an index stack 2) Ok using a list field with all my stacks' name in it 3) Ok using the files() to get the list of stacks this one is interesting if the user has suppress some stacks from the Window's desktop. 4) more precise question: in the list field i would like to put few parameters ( multi-columns ), each of these parameter could belong to these stacks or to be manage outside in the Main stack. Klaus says about almost no overhead; can I understand that i could get few properties ( 3 or 4 ) of every stack, build the list with multiple columns and then view it in a list field.. and the user would have to wait 3 or 4 seconds Max ( acceptable ) or these parameters has to be managed globally in the main stack ? they can be updated each time one of the stacks is modified or creaed. I would prefer the first solution for not having duplication o the same information. this is the main point in fact :-) the problem is I can't check in live the final solution before a while ( reengineering.. )so, i'm looking for the right direction. -- From xbury : Just list the files in a field! If you create one file, add them to the index stack and that's about it. If they don't go all in one folder, you can add a hidden field with the paths of the stacks... --- From Klaus Major OK, i am sure you know that a list field will be the solution for the display of all available files...?! ;-) When the user clicks, you can retrieve any custom property of that stack WITHOUT opening that stack! Of course that stack will be read into memory, but with almost no overhead and no part of that stack will be visible! Example: A list-field with lots of filenames of your stacks... ... C:/Folder1/folder1/a_stack.rev C:... ... Now put something like this into the script of that list-field: on mouseup put the selectedtext of me into target_file put the whatsoever of stack target_file into yadda ## do something with yadda :-) end mouseup Au revoir Klaus Major - From Robert : Since they are stored as physical files, you could use the files() command to fetch the list. If some description or additional info from each file is needed, you can maintain a separate stack or text file with the list of file names, the extra info as well as last update date. That list could be cross-referenced to what you get from files(). New files could be opened to fetch the required information but closed immediately to free the memory. Just a quick idea anyway :) Robert Best regards, thierry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Add, delete and edit cards to a stack via CGI
Thank you for the confirmation, Jacqueline. Now I think I understand the use of stacks in CGI projects. They are a convenient and safe place to develop and run CGI scripts, as an alternative to text file CGI scripts, or to access existing information as read-only databases, but they cannot, or at least not easily, be run as stacks in the usual sense with the card metaphor and the revision of the contents of containers. That's fine. It just means storing database records in related text files and having the CGI stacks work with those. Revolution is very good at handling text files in any case, and their portability is probably an added benefit. Regards, Gregory OK, dynamics with tension, fun and laughter for all. -John Lennon (Lost Weekend Sessions) On 9/9/04 8:00 PM, Gregory Lypny wrote: Hello everyone, Jacqueline's Fiction Search example uses a text script cgi to search a stack and display the results. Is it possible for users to add, delete, and records in a similar database-like stack by posting from a web form? My intuition tells me that the answer to this is no because that would involve GUI commands such as Create Card, Delete Card, and Save Stack (permissions). Am I correct? On Sep 10, 2004, at 1:22 AM, Jacqueline responded: I can create and delete cards, but I can't save the stack. Regardless of the permissions set for the stack or where it is placed, the engine needs to create a temporary backup file, and it can't do that. Or at least, I can't make it do that. I also tried putting the save command in a closestack handler in the stack's script (didn't work,) as well as a custom handler that the cgi calls, but that doesn't work either. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: lots of stack to manage....
Bon jour Thierry, Hello Revolution's users, In the first version, for every script ( laboratory experiment ) i had a folder with few files and folders. Now, i would like to make a stack for every experiment; such a stack will contains the Datas of all the old files using custom properties; but nothing more ( no user interface ). The size can be from 100kb up to 2 Mbyte of texts by stack. Would like to manage around 100 of these stacks. So, in the IDE, would like to be able to see the hundred stacks name in one field; so the user can choose one of them with one click. My question is How to manage a list of all these stacks without putting them into RAM, except when the user choose One. Any tricks, ideas will be very much welcomed :-) Well, thanks a lot especially to xavier, klaus ( Vielen Danke ), Robert... 1) Ok for an index stack 2) Ok using a list field with all my stacks' name in it 3) Ok using the files() to get the list of stacks this one is interesting if the user has suppress some stacks from the Window's desktop. 4) more precise question: in the list field i would like to put few parameters ( multi-columns ), each of these parameter could belong to these stacks or to be manage outside in the Main stack. Klaus says about almost no overhead; can I understand that i could get few properties ( 3 or 4 ) of every stack, build the list with multiple columns and then view it in a list field.. and the user would have to wait 3 or 4 seconds Max ( acceptable ) MAX MAX ;-) Depending on the size of your data probably under 1 secs... If you mean you want to build the contents of the list-field from the contents of some custom properties from different stacks, YES :-) or these parameters has to be managed globally in the main stack ? No need for that... they can be updated each time one of the stacks is modified or creaed. I would prefer the first solution for not having duplication o the same information. this is the main point in fact :-) Then this might satisfy you ;-) the problem is I can't check in live the final solution before a while ( reengineering.. )so, i'm looking for the right direction. Hint: You can also SET these properties of not opened stacks! ... set the whatsoever of stack C:/folder/stack.rev to 1234 save stack C:/folder/stack.rev ### NECESSARY in this case ... Au revoir mon ami... Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Inheritance in Revolution?
This is on the feature request list as object frontscripts and backscripts. It would allow you to set the backscript of any of the buttons anywhere to a common script. The backscript would offer shared behavior for all the buttons. I think this feature might even be on the schedule for inclusion in an upcoming release of Revolution. regards, Geoff Canyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sep 10, 2004, at 12:36 AM, Arthur Urban wrote: I think some of the workarounds are genuinely clever, but a poor substitute actual classes. I don't need Rev to be a true OOL, I just think script sharing sounds very cool. In the mean time, I might as well go at the library approach. Is there any limit to the number of back scripts I can have? Is there a certain number after which my program might start to bog down? ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Inheritance in Revolution?
On 9/10/04 2:36 AM, Arthur Urban [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because that solution divorces the object from it's code and data. I do use libraries, but only for stand-alone functions that are clearly not object behaviours. I've discovered that I'm not really talking about inheritance here, but more class instantiation. Revolution only embraces the thought that every object is an instantiation of a single base class implementing a singleton pattern. I'd like to be able to declare a single object as a class from which I can instantiate multiple copies of it wherever I need them. There is something similar that's been in discussion and will hopefully be implemented in the next version (or the one after that), and it's being called parentScripts. Sort of an object-specific backscript, you can assign the script of an object as the parentScript to one or more other objects. This would allow 25 buttons to use the same script of its parent. Note that this is not the same as redefining the button class in code, but it's close - you could drop a button in a hidden stack that acted like a class - set its script, and then put a bunch of buttons on various stacks that had this class button set as its parentScript. Then, if the script of the parent changes, the behavior of all the instances of those buttons changes as well. For right now, however, the clever workarounds are the only thing we've got. :-) Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 12, Issue 41
In a message dated 9/10/04 1:16:09 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Message: 16 Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 23:04:05 -0600 From: Arthur Urban [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Inheritance in Revolution? To: 'How to use Revolution' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII What I'm looking for is something in the Property Inspector that would allow me to specify an object as the script provider for another object. References like target and me would still operate as if the actual control were used, but it would be as if you had typed the same script into fifty buttons manually. Change the code in the master control, and all the others immediately have access to the changes. Unless this ability already exists, in which case, carry on... Select your 50 buttons (or whatever objects you want to inherit the script) and group them. Now put your script in the group's script, not in each buttons. If you click in one of the buttons, but there is no on mouseUp in the button script, the message will pass to the button's container, in this case the group, and can be handled there. If you want all the objects on your card to call the same handlers, you can put the handler in the card script. I probably wasn't as clear as I could have been. These 50 buttons all live on different cards, different sub-stacks, etc. Think of this ability as one might approach a Password Field. You'd write the clever text hiding code in the field's script, and then maybe use this field in two or three different locations. When you discover that bug, you just change the master script, and no matter where the other buttons happen to be, they gain the benefit of the fix without extra copy/paste efforts. Well, you could put the handler(s) for those 50 buttons (or whatever other objects) into the stack script... on mouseUp switch (the CustomClass of the target) case boring normal button # do boring normal button stuff here break case elegant 3d button # do elegant 3d button stuff here case spiffy options button # do spiffy options button stuff here break # and so on, and so forth, for all other CustomClass values default # shouldn't ever fall thru to this branch of the switch, # hence throw an error message onto the screen end switch end mouseUp This is probably too cool a feature to ever actually see, but I can hope. What do the Rev Developers think? Wouldn't this add a tremendous level of code (and object) reusability, not to mention data/code encapsulation? Is there anything you'd want from this feature that can't be implemented via handlers in the stack script? ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: lots of stack to manage....
Well, thanks a lot especially to xavier, klaus ( Vielen Danke ), Robert... 1) Ok for an index stack 2) Ok using a list field with all my stacks' name in it 3) Ok using the files() to get the list of stacks this one is interesting if the user has suppress some stacks from the Window's desktop. 4) more precise question: in the list field i would like to put few parameters ( multi-columns ), each of these parameter could belong to these stacks or to be manage outside in the Main stack. Klaus says about almost no overhead; can I understand that i could get few properties ( 3 or 4 ) of every stack, build the list with multiple columns and then view it in a list field.. and the user would have to wait 3 or 4 seconds Max ( acceptable ) or these parameters has to be managed globally in the main stack ? they can be updated each time one of the stacks is modified or creaed. I would prefer the first solution for not having duplication o the same information. this is the main point in fact :-) the problem is I can't check in live the final solution before a while ( reengineering.. )so, i'm looking for the right direction. You could simulate the delay caused by getting all the info anew each time the list is displayed. It will depend on OS, available memory and hardware performance. For 100 stacks or so, it may be just a blink. Re Klaus' post: even though the stacks are not really openned when you only fetch custom properties, they are nevertheless loaded in memory, so you need to close each after fetching the info (and the destroyStack of each stack must be true) if memory usage is an issue. If a lot of those data stack are being often changed, it is probably reasonable to build the list each time. However, if most change seldom, than maintaining a a separate list stack may be beneficial. Your call. Robert ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re[2]: lots of stack to manage....
Bonjour Klaus, Friday, September 10, 2004, 3:21:00 PM, vous avez ecrit: KM MAX MAX ;-) KM Depending on the size of your data probably under 1 secs... KM If you mean you want to build the contents of the list-field from the KM contents of some custom properties from different stacks, YES :-) to be sure :-) i'll have a lot of invisible stacks ( 100 ) quite greedy of datas, but only text Datas saved into Properties; no objects into these stacks. In the list-field i need to pick up 3 or 4 properties ( just KeyWords ) in each of these stacks. So i scan the result of files() to get the list of these stacks, for each stack, put the P1 of theStackinto v1 get the P2 of theStackinto v2 get the P3 of theStackinto v3 put theStack tab v1 and tab and v2 and tab return after field list-field done then click and be happy if all of this is as faster as the speed of a thought before having drink some beer... right ? KM Hint: KM You can also SET these properties of not opened stacks! i just tried this one :-) KM set the whatsoever of stack C:/folder/stack.rev to 1234 KM save stack C:/folder/stack.rev KM ### NECESSARY in this case Wunderbach ! KM Au revoir mon ami... KM Klaus Major My wife just left this morning for Koln.. nice city, nice country she is German :-) regards, thierry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Https
Interesting. Anyone know if getting this error will preclude data being returned from the https connection? For example, I can imagine having a web server where I didn't bother getting a Verisign (or other) certificate, but I still wanted to get and put data over an https connection. -- Frank Frank, Unfortunately unless you have certificate from someone such as GeoTrust or Verisign or Thawte (Now owned by Verisign) I doubt that the connection will work properly. Good luck anyway! Rick Harrison ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Revolution feature set - some questions
Folks: I'm new to Revolution and Dreamcard but intrigued by the possibilities. However, I need some very specific functionality and I'm wondering if Revolution is up to the task. Some history: We are creating manuals that are distributed in over 20 languages. The manuals are long, complex, and technical and include graphics and various font formats. The manuals are XML-based so that they can be output in various formats. One of these formats will be CD-based. The feature page states that Revolution can parse XML files and create and manipulate XML content. In my project, we will be dealing with large XML documents with extensive formatting via XSLT. Graphics, fonts, font weights, line spacing, letter spacing etc. will be part of the output. Can Revolution reliably display this kind of formatted XML document? The feature page states that Revolution has unicode support. Does this extend to long XML documents? Again, formatting and graphics must come through. Is this possible? Incidentally, I've gone through Sarah Reichelt's excellent XML tutorial which has answered most of my questions. Sorry if the questions are basic. I'm not an expert and would appreciate the help. Thanks! Steve ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Re[2]: lots of stack to manage....
Bon jour Thierry, Bonjour Klaus, Friday, September 10, 2004, 3:21:00 PM, vous avez ecrit: KM MAX MAX ;-) KM Depending on the size of your data probably under 1 secs... KM If you mean you want to build the contents of the list-field from the KM contents of some custom properties from different stacks, YES :-) to be sure :-) Good boy! ;-) i'll have a lot of invisible stacks ( 100 ) quite greedy of datas, but only text Datas saved into Properties; no objects into these stacks. In the list-field i need to pick up 3 or 4 properties ( just KeyWords ) in each of these stacks. So i scan the result of files() to get the list of these stacks, Yes, and regarding the last mail of Robert B. (thanks, this was new to me, that we also should close these unopened stacks), you should add another line: for each stack, put the P1 of theStackinto v1 get the P2 of theStackinto v2 get the P3 of theStackinto v3 put theStack tab v1 and tab and v2 and tab return after field list-field close stack theStack done then click and be happy if all of this is as faster as the speed of a thought before having drink some beer... right ? Exactement! :-) I would suggst to gather the data into a variable first, and put it into the field at the end of the handler en bloc! This way could even save some precious nano-secs ;-) KM Hint: KM You can also SET these properties of not opened stacks! i just tried this one :-) KM set the whatsoever of stack C:/folder/stack.rev to 1234 KM save stack C:/folder/stack.rev KM ### NECESSARY in this case Wunderbach ! R - wunderbaR ;-) A bach is a small river... ...and a dynasty of musicians :-D KM Au revoir mon ami... KM Klaus Major My wife just left this morning for Koln.. nice city, nice country Ha, i live about 30 KM away from cologne :-) she is German :-) Well Liebe Grüße in that case :-) regards, thierry Ciao ragazzo Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution feature set - some questions
Also, just to point out something, they can embed altBrowser in their project and let mozilla/IE/WebKit render the unicode. it works. just my two cents. Andre On Sep 10, 2004, at 11:54 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is no kerning but lineheight works fine. Images are no problems in text but you can't resize them for display that I know (unless you pre-prepare the image.)... While XML may work some xml files I use for my satellite decoder do not... surely a problem with my xml file but what's funny is that the decoder seems to like this file ;) Anyway you can always add a little parsing here and there to improve compatibility. Large documents are not a problem at all. Unicode is not in my bag of tricks unfortunately. The rest should be easy but not too easy or it wouldn't be fun... ;) Xav -- http://monsieurx.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Van Esch, Stephen (Bolton) Sent: vendredi 10 septembre 2004 16:39 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Revolution feature set - some questions Folks: I'm new to Revolution and Dreamcard but intrigued by the possibilities. However, I need some very specific functionality and I'm wondering if Revolution is up to the task. Some history: We are creating manuals that are distributed in over 20 languages. The manuals are long, complex, and technical and include graphics and various font formats. The manuals are XML-based so that they can be output in various formats. One of these formats will be CD-based. The feature page states that Revolution can parse XML files and create and manipulate XML content. In my project, we will be dealing with large XML documents with extensive formatting via XSLT. Graphics, fonts, font weights, line spacing, letter spacing etc. will be part of the output. Can Revolution reliably display this kind of formatted XML document? The feature page states that Revolution has unicode support. Does this extend to long XML documents? Again, formatting and graphics must come through. Is this possible? Incidentally, I've gone through Sarah Reichelt's excellent XML tutorial which has answered most of my questions. Sorry if the questions are basic. I'm not an expert and would appreciate the help. Thanks! Steve ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Andre Alves Garzia 2004 Soap Dog Studios - BRAZIL http://studio.soapdog.org ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re[4]: lots of stack to manage....
Bonjour Klaus, KM I would suggest to gather the data into a variable first, and put it KM into the field at the end of the handler en bloc! KM This way could even save some precious nano-secs ;-) well, with my little experience, much more than that :-) So, Alles Kla... have just to do it now :-) Thanks again to all of you Enjoy the week-end to come -- Meilleures Salutations, thierry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
How do I associate files with a windows standalone?
Rev folks, I have looked at the docs and the setregistry function. The docs recommend that I look at the code in the cookbook found in the docs. For the life of me I can't find the cookbook in 2.5. I appreciate help finding the cookbook and any other help on associating files and applications. Thanks much! jack ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Rev 2.5 Script printing problems
I have looked in bugzilla but have not been able to find a report on this problem. However, thay may be a result of my unfamiliarity with buzilla. Using Rev 2.5 (release 1) with the script window open I get garbled text lines when I print the script out. This is on Windows XP and using a networked Xerox Phaser 8400 printer. If I copy and paste the script text into another program such as Microsoft Works and then print there is no problem. The problem exists within Rev only. It appears as if some of the formatting is not being followed. For example, on preopencard becomes garbled so that the first three letters are a composite of five letters and spaces so that the result is ###reopencard. Tabs do not seem to affect the printing it is just the first word after a return or new sentence. I had a look through the list and didn't see anthing gerund. Has anyone encountered this and more importantly fixed it? Mark MacKenzie Past Ink Publishing Saskatoon, Saskatchewan Canada ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Https and certificate.
Or much cheaper at Oznic. I make it a point to stay away from high priced
Verisign products.
On 9/9/04 7:31 PM, Rick Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Interesting. Anyone know if getting this error will preclude data
being returned from the https connection? For example, I can imagine
having a web server where I didn't bother getting a Verisign (or
other) certificate, but I still wanted to get and put data over an
https connection.
-- Frank
Frank,
Unfortunately unless you have certificate from someone such as
GeoTrust or Verisign or Thawte (Now owned by Verisign)
I doubt that the connection will work properly.
Good luck anyway!
Rick Harrison
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Re: How do I associate files with a windows standalone?
On 9/10/04 5:41 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rev folks, I have looked at the docs and the setregistry function. The docs recommend that I look at the code in the cookbook found in the docs. For the life of me I can't find the cookbook in 2.5. I appreciate help finding the cookbook and any other help on associating files and applications. Thanks much! Here you go! http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/revolution.htm?_file004 Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
