Re: audio on windows not playing

2004-11-25 Thread C List
Hi Troy,
Yes I try to play it in a player object. I also tried to play it with 
the
play user/thisFolder/myaudioFile command, which will sort of play the 
audio
though it will produce also the strangest cracking and distortion which 
is
absolutly unusable.

It is also strange I have the controls set to showing and on the mac I 
see them
alright but on windows I don't see them at all. The player is just a 
rectangle with no controls
or the like.

I wil now try importing the file (75 Mb) and see if play audioclip will 
work.

Still hoping to find a solution
best wishes
Claudi
On Thursday, November 25, 2004, at 01:12 AM, Troy Rollins wrote:
On Nov 24, 2004, at 5:48 PM, C List wrote:
 I have both an aif and a wav file and neither will
play with runrev. The aif file won't play in the windows media player 
either but the
wav file will. (could this mean something is wrong with the media 
player (it's
mplayer2 vers  6.42)
AIF is native to Mac, but pretty alien on Windows, though fairly often 
supported by various odds-n-ends of software. Probably best to stick 
with the WAV on Windows.

 I have the dontUseQT set to true.
You didn't seem to indicate... you are trying to play the WAV in a Rev 
player object?

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Re: audio on windows not playing

2004-11-25 Thread Klaus Major
Dag Claudi
Hi Troy,
Yes I try to play it in a player object. I also tried to play it with 
the
play user/thisFolder/myaudioFile command, which will sort of play 
the audio
though it will produce also the strangest cracking and distortion 
which is
absolutly unusable.

It is also strange I have the controls set to showing and on the mac I 
see them
alright but on windows I don't see them at all. The player is just a 
rectangle with no controls
or the like.
The controller bar is a QuickTime only feature, you get nothing on 
windoze, obviously :-)

I wil now try importing the file (75 Mb) and see if play audioclip 
will work.
Please don't!
That will result in the same hellish noise as the play ac ... command 
and indicates that
that file is a compressed wav file...

Can you open that file in QuickTime Player and check the information 
about the fileformat?
Maybe then we could see a bit clearer...

If nothing helps, try to convert that file to e.g. MP3 format, which 
should be playable inside
a player even on windoze without QT...

Still hoping to find a solution
best wishes
Claudi
Klaus Major
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.major-k.de

P.S.
player objects versus play ac...:
Player objects... that use QT, which although much slower and more 
memory intensive can
play many more formats than the default play command which uses 
low-level
sound routines in Win32 and MacOS which don't support compression.

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RevMail OSX

2004-11-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello everybody,

I've encountered a problem recently using the RevMail function.
Indeed RevMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] will open http://www.domain.com; in 
Internet 
Explorer instead of a mail program !

Does anyone knows how to manage this ?

Have a nice day,

Aurélien Durand

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Re: RevMail OSX

2004-11-25 Thread Klaus Major
Bon jour Aurélien,
Hello everybody,
I've encountered a problem recently using the RevMail function.
Indeed RevMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] will open http://www.domain.com; in 
Internet
Explorer instead of a mail program !

Does anyone knows how to manage this ?
That was a bug in the first version of Rev 2.5.
Go to menu Help and choose Check for updates...
That should remove that little inconvenience.
Have a nice day,
Aurélien Durand
Au revoir
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barcode scanner

2004-11-25 Thread paolo
How can I  send data from  a barcode scanner  to a  revolution stack on 
WIN-PC?

Any of you experienced a software using   a barcode scanner as 
data-entry in a revolution stack?

Ciao Paolo Mazza
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Re: barcode scanner

2004-11-25 Thread Andre Garzia
On Nov 25, 2004, at 9:06 AM, paolo wrote:
How can I  send data from  a barcode scanner  to a  revolution stack 
on WIN-PC?

Any of you experienced a software using   a barcode scanner as 
data-entry in a revolution stack?

Ciao Paolo Mazza
I do think that barcode scanners send their data as simple ascii 
numbers, like if the user had typed with the numeric keypad. Like you 
don't really access the scanner hardware, you just put a field, when 
the user uses the scanner, the scannner will send the numbers and the 
field will be filed. But please test this before beliving in my words, 
I don't really know if this is how they work, but I remember 
researching a little while ago, and seeing something like that. If 
indeed they work like this, then there's not a single problem when 
creating stacks...

cheers
andre
PS: I just saw a USB barcode scanner like those credit card 
scanners...


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Aborting a script

2004-11-25 Thread Kaveh Bazargan
I am developing on OS X. When I am in a loop with an answer dialog box, I
can't find a way to abort the whole handler. I have tried command-. which I
think worked in HyperCard.
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Re: Find command

2004-11-25 Thread Mark Greenberg
David,
	The find command begins searching from the point of the last 
successful find.  Try inserting Find Empty just above the line of 
code with the find command:

Find Empty
Find desired text
...
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Re: barcode scanner

2004-11-25 Thread kee nethery
bar code scanners act just like a keyboard. You select the field that 
you want the scanner to type into, scan the bar code, and assuming you 
configured your bar code scanner to end transmission with a return, the 
return in field command will tell the field that it is time to process 
what just got typed into it.

To summarize, bar code scanner = keyboard
Kee Nethery
BTW, I have two Mac Apple Desktop Bus bar code scanners that anyone on 
this list can have for free if they pay shipping. We switched to USB 
and these work fine but we no longer need them.

On Nov 25, 2004, at 5:06 AM, paolo wrote:
How can I  send data from  a barcode scanner  to a  revolution stack 
on WIN-PC?

Any of you experienced a software using   a barcode scanner as 
data-entry in a revolution stack?

Ciao Paolo Mazza
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Re: Reading a (BIG) text file one line at a time

2004-11-25 Thread Jim Hurley

--
Message: 6
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 13:10:21 -0800
From: Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Reading a (BIG) text file one line at a time
To: How to use Revolution [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Kevin Miller wrote:
 I know that old-timers are used to writing scripts and this works great, but
 if you are a new Revolution user and want controls to lay out automatically
 as a window resizes, the Geometry Manager should be your first port of call.
 You're not dependent on it, its not your only option, but it does work very
 well and is simple and straightforward for 90% of the layout work you may
 need to do.
Well said.
My tips on writing resizeStack handlers directly are for the other 10%. :)
Both are good.  Transcript is fun to use.

Richard et. al.,
Transcript is indeed fun to use. Speaking of that fun put me in mind 
of something another Richard, Richard Feynman, said about 
computers--see below. These remarks were made about his time working 
at Los Alamos on the Manhattan Project. At the time there were using 
very early model IBM, card-reading, computers to solve complex 
mathematical problems related to creating an explosive, chain, 
fission reaction--i.e. bomb.

Well, Mr. Frankle started this problem and began to suffer from a 
disease, the computer disease, that anybody who works with computers 
now knows about. It's a very  serious  disease and it interferes 
completely with the work. It was a serious problem that we were 
trying to do. The disease with computers is you play with them. They 
are so wonderful. You have these x switches that determine if it's an 
even number you do this, it it's an odd number you do that, and 
pretty soon you  can do more and more elaborate things if you are 
clever enough...[Here Feynman speaks of getting sidetrack pursing 
issues not related to their calculational needs, for example working 
out the arctangent function when they already had tables for the 
function.]...But if you ever worked with computers you understand the 
disease. The delight to be able to see how much you can do. But he 
[Frankle] got the disease for the first time, the poor fellow who 
invented the thing got the disease.

There are worse diseases., worse narcotic addictions than programming.
Jim
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Re: barcode scanner

2004-11-25 Thread Gordon Tillman
Hi Paolo,
On Nov 25, 2004, at 05:06, paolo wrote:
How can I  send data from  a barcode scanner  to a  revolution stack 
on WIN-PC?

Any of you experienced a software using   a barcode scanner as 
data-entry in a revolution stack?

Ciao Paolo Mazza
I wrote a sample RR app for a fellow that drives a barcode scanner.  If 
can wait until I'm back at work on Monday I can email a copy to you.

--gordon
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Re: RevMail OSX

2004-11-25 Thread Ken Ray
On 11/25/04 3:46 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello everybody,
 
 
 
 I've encountered a problem recently using the RevMail function.
 
 Indeed RevMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] will open http://www.domain.com; in
 Internet 
 
 Explorer instead of a mail program !
 
 
 
 Does anyone knows how to manage this ?

What platform are you doing this on? The reason I ask is that I opened Rev
2.2 on Mac OS X 10.3 and typed into the message box:

  revMail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

and it opened Entourage (which is my default mail program on Mac).

Doing the same thing in Windows XP opened Outlook (which is my default mail
program on Windows).

Just curious... what happens if you do this:

  revGoURL mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

?? You should get the same results (i.e. opening the default mail client).

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software
Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: Aborting a script

2004-11-25 Thread Ken Ray
On 11/25/04 6:53 AM, Kaveh Bazargan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am developing on OS X. When I am in a loop with an answer dialog box, I
 can't find a way to abort the whole handler. I have tried command-. which I
 think worked in HyperCard.

Well, having an answer dialog inside of a loop makes cancelling tricky.
Command-. *does* work, it just has to be executed while script lines are
actually running, which isn't the case when you have an answer dialog being
displayed. However after you dismiss the dialog, it will go back to running
the rest of the script, at which point *if you're fast enough*, you can
command-. and get the Execution Error dialog.

However if you have something like this:

  on mouseUp
repeat
  answer Hey there!
end repeat
  end mouseUp

you might as well force-quit. ;-)

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software
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Re: Aborting a script

2004-11-25 Thread Kaveh Bazargan
At 10:09 am -0600 25/11/04, Ken Ray wrote:

[...]

However if you have something like this:

  on mouseUp
repeat
  answer Hey there!
end repeat
  end mouseUp

you might as well force-quit. ;-)

I think what I have is closer to this, and force quit is the only option.
But you know, in HyperCard I think that command-. stopped the program, even
if a dialog box was showing. There should be a way out, other than force
quit.
-- 

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Re: Aborting a script

2004-11-25 Thread Richard Gaskin
Kaveh Bazargan wrote:
At 10:09 am -0600 25/11/04, Ken Ray wrote:
However if you have something like this:
on mouseUp
  repeat
answer Hey there!
  end repeat
end mouseUp
you might as well force-quit. ;-)
I think what I have is closer to this, and force quit is the only option.
But you know, in HyperCard I think that command-. stopped the program, even
if a dialog box was showing. There should be a way out, other than force
quit.
Same with SC.  While it may not be desirable to have that behavior for 
all apps you build with Rev (can you imagine a user shutting down 
program execution by just typing Cmd-. in any other app?  E), it 
might be nice to have a global propery which governs this, perhaps one 
which is set to true in development mode by default false by default at 
runtime.

If you post it to Bugzilla I'd vote for it.
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Re: audio on windows not playing

2004-11-25 Thread Troy Rollins
On Nov 25, 2004, at 4:26 AM, Klaus Major wrote:
It is also strange I have the controls set to showing and on the mac 
I see them
alright but on windows I don't see them at all. The player is just a 
rectangle with no controls
or the like.
The controller bar is a QuickTime only feature, you get nothing on 
windoze, obviously :-)
Right, as long as quicktime has been shut off there is nothing to 
provide the controller. It would work on Windows if QuickTime could be 
involved.
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Re: audio on windows not playing

2004-11-25 Thread Jeffrey Reynolds
Claudi,
as far as i have been able to tell you are out of luck with playing 
external wav files w/o Quicktime on the PC. I tried 9 ways to tuesday 
to do this a few months back. Documentation in Metacard and Rev both 
allude to being able to do this w/o quicktime, but it just doesnt. I 
was interested to see that Scott suggested trying MP3 format, I didnt 
try that figuring that if it didnt play an Wav format file (much more 
older standard format) it wasnt going to do anything. now i'm heartened 
to try mp3 files on non qt windoz to see if that works. let us know if 
it does!

some warnings about testing with the dontuseqt set to true on the pc. 
first make sure you call it first thing in your preopenstack handler. 
if a player is called/delt with before that qt will be loaded. even 
with qt turned off this way i have had it pop back on while fiddling 
around in a stack trying things. you get that moment of great elation 
that you have fixed the problem, then discover that the contrller bar 
is now active and this indicates that quicktime is back on again... 
(followed by a long sound of a balloon slowly being deflated...). it is 
safest to just deinstall quicktime on the pc you are working on to make 
sure its behaving like a computer w/o qt. lucky the deinstall/reinstall 
of qt has gone flawlessly several times on my xp development system 
(kudos to apple for a hardy windows install/deinstall).

one other little windows audio gotcha (that Jacqueline solved for me, 
thanks again!) is that you can get some strange playback behaviors on 
windows (with qt) if the player being played is hidden. make it visible 
and set its loc to off screen and these go away. this doesn't happen on 
the mac, windows only, but the fix works fine on the mac.

Jeffrey Reynolds
6620 Michaels Dr
Bethesda, MD  20817
301.469.8562
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Subject: audio on windows not playing
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Hi list
I am in quite a fix. I am trying to get an audio file to play on
windows.
I am busy with this already for well about 10 hours to no avail. On my
mac it's no
problem at all but on the windows box (windows 2000 profesional)
I can't get the file to play. I have both an aif and a wav file and
neither will
play with runrev. The aif file won't play in the windows media player
snip...
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Re: barcode scanner

2004-11-25 Thread Roger . E . Eller
Paolo,

Check out Sarah's Barcode Tester stack at http://www.troz.net/Rev/
I think it will provide exactly what you are looking for.

Kind Regards,
Roger Eller [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 11/25/2004 at 6:06 AM, Paolo Mazza wrote:
 How can I  send data from  a barcode scanner  to a  revolution stack
 on WIN-PC?
 
 Any of you experienced a software using   a barcode scanner as
 data-entry in a revolution stack?
 
 Ciao Paolo Mazza

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Re: Find command

2004-11-25 Thread David Squance
Thanks for the reply.  It made no difference.  I find it very odd that it
works as expected when I add the fld, as in
find xxx in fld FieldName
but find xxx returns not found.  Normally, the latter is just slower.
I'm using RR2.1.2 if that makes any difference.  It's not a showstopper.
In this case, putting the fld reference there is actually better.

David,
   The find command begins searching from the point of the last
successful find.  Try inserting Find Empty just above the line of
code with the find command:

Find Empty
Find desired text
...

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Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 14, Issue 66

2004-11-25 Thread Ken Norris
Hi Frank,
On Nov 25, 2004, at 1:44 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 17:04:03 -0500
From: Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: audio input level
do set volume input volume 100 as AppleScript
Worksthank you so much.
How did you know 100 is the maximum level? Where is that info?
TIA,
Ken N.
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Re: audio on windows not playing

2004-11-25 Thread C List
It is getting stranger and weirder now.
I made small sample files of the audio file in all formats I can save to
like au, mov, avi, wav, aif. and I installed a newer version of the 
media player
and in the media player I can play everything exept the aif file.

I made a little test stack so I can pick a file for the runrev player 
to play.
The only file it can play is avi. Next I noticed it can play the file 
as long
as it is shorter than 3 min. If the track is 3.15 min I hear no sound.
The disc light shows some activity but I hear nothing. I tried this 
with the always
buffer on and off, it makes no difference.
I also tried it with another file. A cd disc track also converted to 
avi, it plays aslong
as it doesn't exceed a bit over 4 min. The file I need to play is 7.20 
min
The file is 16-bit Little Endian, stereo, 44,1 kHz, 16 bits. The 
datarate is 172.3 K bytes/sec
I also tried to downsample the file to 22,05 kHz but more than 3 mins 
it won't play.

The trouble is the audio is quite critical and compressing it to MP3 
gives to many
artifacts. (unless I find a much better compressor which I am gonna try 
next.
 I seem to be running out of options for the moment)

Tomorrow I will try setting the dontUseQt as first thing that happens, 
as Jeffrey sugested,
at the moment a couple of other routines get called first. I hope it 
makes a different but it's to weird.

best wishes
Claudi
On Thursday, November 25, 2004, at 10:26 AM, Klaus Major wrote:
Dag Claudi
Hi Troy,
Yes I try to play it in a player object. I also tried to play it with 
the
play user/thisFolder/myaudioFile command, which will sort of play 
the audio
though it will produce also the strangest cracking and distortion 
which is
absolutly unusable.

It is also strange I have the controls set to showing and on the mac 
I see them
alright but on windows I don't see them at all. The player is just a 
rectangle with no controls
or the like.
The controller bar is a QuickTime only feature, you get nothing on 
windoze, obviously :-)

I wil now try importing the file (75 Mb) and see if play audioclip 
will work.
Please don't!
That will result in the same hellish noise as the play ac ... 
command and indicates that
that file is a compressed wav file...

Can you open that file in QuickTime Player and check the information 
about the fileformat?
Maybe then we could see a bit clearer...

If nothing helps, try to convert that file to e.g. MP3 format, which 
should be playable inside
a player even on windoze without QT...

Still hoping to find a solution
best wishes
Claudi
Klaus Major
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.major-k.de

P.S.
player objects versus play ac...:
Player objects... that use QT, which although much slower and more 
memory intensive can
play many more formats than the default play command which uses 
low-level
sound routines in Win32 and MacOS which don't support compression.

Posted 9/2/2002 by Scott Raney to the MetaCard List
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Re: barcode scanner

2004-11-25 Thread Sarah Reichelt
Hi Paolo,
As Roger pointed out, I have a Barcode Tester stack that will help, as 
well as a stack that creates Code 128 barcodes if that is any use. As 
others have said, the barcode scanner is exactly the same as a 
keyboard, all you have to do is work out what rawKey code your barcode 
scanner sends to indicate the end of a scan.

Mine uses 65293 so here are the scripts I need:
-- Any keyDown on the listed cards is taken as being a barcode 
character.
--
on keyDown theKey
  put Front,Packing,Storing into codeCards
  if the short name of this card is in codeCards then
put theKey after fld Barcode
  else
pass keyDown
  end if
end keyDown

-- When the end character is received, process the characters
-- that have already arrived.
-- Don't forget to clear the Barcode field afterwards.
--
on rawKeyDown theKey
  if theKey = 65293 then
put the short name of this card into cardName
send mouseUp to btn Process Barcode of cd cardName
  else
pass rawKeyDown
  end if
end rawKeyDown
Cheers,
Sarah
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Check out Sarah's Barcode Tester stack at http://www.troz.net/Rev/
I think it will provide exactly what you are looking for.
Kind Regards,
Roger Eller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 11/25/2004 at 6:06 AM, Paolo Mazza wrote:
How can I  send data from  a barcode scanner  to a  revolution stack
on WIN-PC?
Any of you experienced a software using   a barcode scanner as
data-entry in a revolution stack?
Ciao Paolo Mazza
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