Re: pdf icon

[dicod]

Something similar:
Instead of getting the first page of a document how to procees bay scripting
to extract the icon of a related file.

Is this woring on both Mac and Window using Quicktime?

Thanks

Jean-Jacques Wagner

On 1/14/05 6:31 AM, "bassamnaji" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi all,
> How can I make a pdf thumbnail of my pdf documents, or just
> convert say 1st page of the pdf doc to a jpeg picture, and use it to link?

Well, if this is for OS X only, you could use a QuickTime movie object, set
its 'filename' property to the path to the pdf (which would then display the
first page inside the movie object), then scale the object down to thumbnail
size, then do an 'import snapshot from ' to get a thumbnail image.
Finally, delete the movie object. You can then do anything you want with the
thumbnail image (put it into a field, attach it as an icon to a button, use
it "raw", etc.).

As for Windows, I don't know how this could be done... perhaps someone else
on the list does?
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Re: employee database tutorial

[Bob Hartley]

At 23:50 16/01/2005, you wrote:
Bob,

Hi All
Thanks for all the help (2 mailed it to me and this post)
I now have the fiel adn can add bits to the "basic database primer" on 
revonline.

All the ebst
Bob
You could go to:
ftp://ftp.runrev.com/pub/revolution/downloads/distributions/
and download Rev 2.2.1 and get the employee database from there. 
(unfortunately you'd have to download the whole 11mb)

Failing that,  I could email you the stacks or put them on the revonline 
space?

Just let me know.
Pat
- Original Message - From: "Bob Hartley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 3:59 AM
Subject: Re: employee database tutorial

At 11:02 16/01/2005, you wrote:
At 00:47 16/01/2005, you wrote:
Bob-

Hi Mark
Thanks for the tip, however, I have already seen the contact manager. I 
also found it very usefull when originally designing the "basic database 
primer" series.

I now need some more functionality and would like to get the other one 
for the searching and filtering help.
Anyone got the employee database tutorial? I've been searching for this 
for 3 hours today and not written a thing to my app.

Al the best
Bob
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Re: gestalt options

[Richard Gaskin]

Sarah Reichelt wrote:
On 16 Jan 2005, at 7:39 am, Richard Gaskin wrote:
I'm in the process of updating my Gestalt function (see the Gestalt 
stack in RevNet), which I use to automatically include a brief system 
profile in user reports.

Currently the report includes the stuff shown below, things I've found 
useful thus far.

What other functions or global properties might be useful to add?
How about the various rev version numbers: version(), revAppVersion(), 
buildNumber()
Thank you for the suggestion, but the version I have now gets the 
version of the standalone it's running in (I always use a the same stack 
property in all projects for the version number, so things like this and 
my auto-builder and other things can all find it), and the app's version 
number will tell me what I need to determine engine versioning.

Any others?
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Re: crash recipe for htmlText?

[Jeanne A. E. DeVoto]

At 9:58 AM -0800 1/12/05, Scott Rossi wrote:
 >   This is an image:.
It seems that doing something like this would prevent the display of images
from HTML source.
Not necessarily, if it were done sanely (for example, if no char 
attribute is found when setting HTMLtext, assume "char=space" or 
something).

But this *would* help with round-tripping, I think.
--
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Re: substack behavior

[Scott Rossi]

Recently, Byron Turner wrote:

> I was under the impression that a mainstack cannot be modified, but
> that substacks could be.  Is there some process involved for text
> changes in fields of substacks to be retained?

Any stacks that are *not* part of a standalone can be modified and saved.
Stacks that are made into standalone applications, and any included
substacks, can be modified but not saved.  If you want to save changes to a
stack that is part of a standalone distribution, you need to store the stack
outside of the standalone.  This concept is similar to using a text
application to modify/save a text file, or a graphics application to
modify/save an image file.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
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substack behavior

[Byron Turner]

I was under the impression that a mainstack cannot be modified, but 
that substacks could be.  Is there some process involved for text 
changes in fields of substacks to be retained?

Byron
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more 
and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and 
glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's 
desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright 
moron."
--H. L. Mencken
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Re: Revolution Birthday Present

[Sarah Reichelt]

Trolling through old emails, I came across this!
What happened to last year's award, Heather.
You know we all only subscribe to this list in the hope of getting a 
bottle of whisky :-)

Cheers,
Sarah
On 7 Jun 2003, at 1:02 am, Heather Williams wrote:
Dear list members,
Revolution's anniversary is fast approaching. To mark the occasion, and
celebrate the arrival of 2.0, we'd like to show our appreciation of 
this
great community. This list and the people on it are a great resource 
for all
Revolutionaries.

I hereby institute the annual Revolution listee of the year award.
This award will consist of a bottle of whisky, and will be awarded to 
the
person voted by the list members as having been the most consistently
helpful member of the list over the previous year.
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hostName and hostNameToAddress on OS9

[John Rule]

  Have 'hostName' and 'hostNameToAddress' always been non-functional in OS9?
I can get these using Applescript, but that is defeating the purpose...

Thanks,
JR

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jpg graphics

[Ben Fisher]

> I need to insert text information in a jpg graphics then when the 
> computer loads the pics, I want the information extracted and used in 
> the program. Any one know anything about this? 

Paul,

You know how ID3 tags can reside in an mp3 file and store info about title and 
artist?
There are several tag formats like this for graphics. Try looking up IPTC or 
NAA, which are compatible with jpgs. 

For example, in Photoshop you can go File -> File Info and enter in comments 
that will stay with the file. I have no idea how to retrieve them in rev, 
though. I think the answer will be on the internet somewhere. Probably you will 
have to search the hex data of the jpg for a certain header that indicates IPTC.

-Ben
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Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 16, Issue 39

[Matt Denton]

Hi Ben
Many many thanks!  Great help, pointed me in the right direction. Spent  
a lot of time looking at the DOS tools, found a few issues with ASPI  
drivers etc.  Emailed off to GoldenHawk.

Also looked at native burning under XP, pretty lame, no real session  
control from what I can see.  I'll keep working at it, and thanks again  
Ben.

Cheers
M@
You could try shelling a DOS program for burning cds.
http://www.goldenhawk.com/freeware.htm looks interesting, should have a finalize and other  
features.

There's a huge list of dos tools at  
http://www.opus.co.tt/dave/index.htm

I don't know about osx, but there might be some program out there. As  
far as I know, rev has no way to directly burn cds.
In WinXP, you can just drag a file from explorer on to the cd and it  
will burn. Maybe revcopyfile or put url will do the same? I haven't  
tested.

-Ben
Hi all.  Does anyone have experience burning CDs using Rev?

We are building a prototype and need some way of burning to a CD
(preferably/eventually at System Level, OSX and WinXP).  We need to
control much of the process, ie multi-session etc.

Any suggestions?
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Re: employee database tutorial

[Pat Trendler]

Bob,
I uploaded (I hope) the stacks (4) to my user space: "Pat" or category 
general:

EmpDB
EmpDB splash
empDB about
empDB DocTemplate.
Pat
- Original Message - 
From: "Pat Trendler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "How to use Revolution" 
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: employee database tutorial


Bob,
You could go to:
ftp://ftp.runrev.com/pub/revolution/downloads/distributions/
and download Rev 2.2.1 and get the employee database from there. 
(unfortunately you'd have to download the whole 11mb)

Failing that,  I could email you the stacks or put them on the revonline 
space?

Just let me know.
Pat
- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Hartley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "How to use Revolution" 
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 3:59 AM
Subject: Re: employee database tutorial


At 11:02 16/01/2005, you wrote:
At 00:47 16/01/2005, you wrote:
Bob-

Hi Mark
Thanks for the tip, however, I have already seen the contact manager. I 
also found it very usefull when originally designing the "basic database 
primer" series.

I now need some more functionality and would like to get the other one 
for the searching and filtering help.
Anyone got the employee database tutorial? I've been searching for this 
for 3 hours today and not written a thing to my app.

Al the best
Bob
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Re: employee database tutorial

[Pat Trendler]

Bob,
You could go to:
ftp://ftp.runrev.com/pub/revolution/downloads/distributions/
and download Rev 2.2.1 and get the employee database from there. 
(unfortunately you'd have to download the whole 11mb)

Failing that,  I could email you the stacks or put them on the revonline 
space?

Just let me know.
Pat
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From: "Bob Hartley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "How to use Revolution" 
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 3:59 AM
Subject: Re: employee database tutorial


At 11:02 16/01/2005, you wrote:
At 00:47 16/01/2005, you wrote:
Bob-

Hi Mark
Thanks for the tip, however, I have already seen the contact manager. I 
also found it very usefull when originally designing the "basic database 
primer" series.

I now need some more functionality and would like to get the other one for 
the searching and filtering help.
Anyone got the employee database tutorial? I've been searching for this 
for 3 hours today and not written a thing to my app.

Al the best
Bob
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Re: gestalt options

[Sarah Reichelt]

On 16 Jan 2005, at 7:39 am, Richard Gaskin wrote:
I'm in the process of updating my Gestalt function (see the Gestalt 
stack in RevNet), which I use to automatically include a brief system 
profile in user reports.

Currently the report includes the stuff shown below, things I've found 
useful thus far.

What other functions or global properties might be useful to add?
How about the various rev version numbers: version(), revAppVersion(), 
buildNumber()

Sarah
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Re: open file versus launch commands

[Ken Ray]

On 1/16/05 2:23 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Thanks to James for the advice to try to use the "launch" command rather than
> the "open file" command to open a file in the same folder as the Revolution
> application.   The launch command does work on opening an application but only
> after the Revolution program has been built as a standalone.   Am I correct in
> that   one needs to first build a standalone for the launch command to work?

No, 'launch' works in both the IDE and in a standalone... the difference is
based on the path you pass. If you pass a complete path to the executable,
there's no problem in either environments; but if you pass a *relative*
path, the path is relative to the current setting for the 'defaultFolder'
property, which by default is the location of the application that is
currently running the Rev engine. In your standalone, it's the folder that
contains your standalone... in the IDE, it's the folder that contains the
Revolution application.

>  Also, when should the "open file " command be used as opposed to the launch
> command?   Thanks.

Never. :-)

That's because they do different things - launch will execute programs,
whereas 'open file' just opens a file to read or write data to it.

HTH,

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software
Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/
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Re: open file versus launch commands

[James Cass]

Stephen -
"launch" should work within the IDE without having to build the 
standalone.  You can put the following code in a button as a test.  It 
even works in a multiline message box, using just the 5 lines of code 
within the mouseup handler.

on mouseUp
  answer file "Choose a text file to open..."
  put it into targetFile
  answer file "Choose your Text editor application..."
  put it into textEditorApp
  launch targetFile with textEditorApp
end mouseUp
HTH...James
On Jan 16, 2005, at 3:23 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks to James for the advice to try to use the "launch" command 
rather than
the "open file" command to open a file in the same folder as the 
Revolution
application.   The launch command does work on opening an application 
but only
after the Revolution program has been built as a standalone.   Am I 
correct in
that   one needs to first build a standalone for the launch command to 
work?
 Also, when should the "open file " command be used as opposed to the 
launch
command?   Thanks.
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open file versus launch commands

[Stgoldberg]

Thanks to James for the advice to try to use the "launch" command rather than 
the "open file" command to open a file in the same folder as the Revolution 
application.   The launch command does work on opening an application but only 
after the Revolution program has been built as a standalone.   Am I correct in 
that   one needs to first build a standalone for the launch command to work?  
 Also, when should the "open file " command be used as opposed to the launch 
command?   Thanks.   
Steve Goldberg
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screenshot sharpening

[Bob Hartley]

Hi All.
I thought I'd put this wee tip your way.
I have seen some blurred screenshots on a website recently and there were 
some suggestions on how to sharpen them.

Some suggestions were to use "sharpen" in an image manipulation package. (I 
use photoshop)

However my best tip is to use an "Unsharpen Mask" This will in effect 
create an unsharp selection of your image and then use this as a mask to 
reduce the affect. In the end you get a sharper image without the 
distortion that you sometimes get from the "sharpen" filter.

Cheers
Bob
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Re: Graphics question

[Alex Tweedly]

Paul Salyers wrote:
This is a non Rev question, but:
I need to insert text information in a jpg graphics then when the 
computer loads the pics, I want the information extracted and used in 
the program. Any one know anything about this?
You can do this with "exif" data. I wrote a library to extract this data 
in Rev (see in revonline under alextweedly), but I'm afraid I haven't 
yet done the "writing" side of the operation.  see www.exif.org (not as 
good as you might hop), or just Google "exif data" for lots of sites - I 
don't however know of any utility that is strong on writing Exif data.

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Re: employee database tutorial

[Bob Hartley]

At 11:02 16/01/2005, you wrote:
At 00:47 16/01/2005, you wrote:
Bob-

Hi Mark
Thanks for the tip, however, I have already seen the contact manager. I 
also found it very usefull when originally designing the "basic database 
primer" series.

I now need some more functionality and would like to get the other one for 
the searching and filtering help.
Anyone got the employee database tutorial? I've been searching for this for 
3 hours today and not written a thing to my app.

Al the best
Bob  

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Re: Trouble with graphics display in OS X

[Scott Rossi]

Recently, James Hurley wrote:

> I have a scripted solution for OS X. But it is not very good. You can
> see this best in Turtle Graphics applied to controls:
> 
> In the message box: go url
> "http://home.infostations.net/jhurley/ControlTurtles.rev";

James, I get: "stack is corrupted, check for ~ backup file"

Maybe needs to be uploaded again?

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Development & Design
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Re: Graphics question

[Bob Hartley]

At 14:19 16/01/2005, you wrote:


This is a non Rev question, but:
I need to insert text information in a jpg graphics then when the computer 
loads the pics, I want the information extracted and used in the program. 
Any one know anything about this?

I think jpeg 2000 could do this.
see
http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=500933.500948
Or possibly the DICOM format (but that is really for patient records in 
medical imaging).

cheers
bob


Paul Salyers
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Re: Graphics question

[Thomas Gutzmann]

I need to insert text information in a jpg graphics then when the 
computer loads the pics, I want the information extracted and used in 
the program. Any one know anything about this?
a) not too earnest: look at virus construction kits; this is exactly 
what you have to do if you want to do something like that

b) if it's Mac only, you can use one of the forks, but you must be 
aware of programs who strip meta data.

Cheers,
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Re: Trouble with graphics display in OS X

[James Hurley]

Message: 2
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:46:19 -0800
From: Scott Rossi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Trouble with graphics display in OS X
To: How to use Revolution 
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Recently, James Hurley wrote:
 I need to know whether my problem with OS X
 lies in my computer graphics card or with RR.
One other question James: are the OS9 and OSX systems you're comparing
running on the same box or different boxes?  Because another issue you *may*
be running into *might* have to do with the capability of the graphics
card/s (yet another variable in the problem).
Regardless, it still may be possible to script a solution around your
problem.
Regards,
Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Development & Design
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Scott
Same machine.
I have a scripted solution for OS X. But it is not very good. You can 
see this best in Turtle Graphics applied to controls:

In the message box: go url 
"http://home.infostations.net/jhurley/ControlTurtles.rev";

Just click the  button "Fixed/Not fixed for OS X"
The issues are related to the screen refresh in situations in which 
there is an evolving graphic, a display generated in a repeat loop, 
or mouseMove. One can force a refresh with "Wait 0 millisec" or 
"Unlock screen."

Without the forced refresh, things are displayed very quickly but 
only intermittently.

With the forced refresh things are displayed smoothly but much more 
slowly than in OS 9 or Windows.

I would hope there would be a compromise. But maybe not. It may be an 
inherent problem with the greater demands that OS X places on 
graphics display--as Richard pointed out.

Jim
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Graphics question

[Paul Salyers]

This is a non Rev question, but:
I need to insert text information in a jpg graphics then when the computer 
loads the pics, I want the information extracted and used in the program. 
Any one know anything about this?


Paul Salyers
PS1 - Senior Rep.
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Re: Problem with open file command

[James Cass]

Stephen -
Sounds like maybe you need to use the "launch" command.  Check it out 
in the Rev Documentation.

--snip--
launch command
Platform support: Win, MacOSX, MacOS Classic, Linux
Introduced in version 1.0 (Changed in version 1.1.1)
Starts up an application, optionally opening a document in the 
application.

launch [documentPath with] applicationPath
launch "SimpleText"
launch "/Documents/Projects/test.txt" with myApp
launch it with (field "Application")
--snip--
HTH...James
On Jan 16, 2005, at 12:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have been trying to get the "open file" command to work on my G5 
mac, e.g.
trying to open a ".txt" file in the same folder as the application, but
nothing happens.   Can anyone suggest what I might be doing wrong, and 
also what
sort of "files" one should expect Revolution to be able to open with 
this
command?   Thanks.
Stephen Goldberg
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Re: MacWorld part 2

[Mark Talluto]

Roger,
Ahhhyes!  That was it.  I really enjoyed using that tool almost as 
much as I enjoyed all the Amigas I owned.  I don't mean to take this in 
another direction, but that OS was truly ahead of its time.  I remember 
switching to the Mac after I felt like I was the last one to still use 
the system.  The Mac seemed so inefficient next to my true 
multitasking, OS fits on a diskette, Amiga computer.

The good old days.  :)
-Mark Talluto
On Jan 15, 2005, at 12:53 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mark,
Was it AmigaVision? I used that allot to make slideshows of weddings 
with
music, animation, and it could be recorded to videotape easily with the
Amiga's built-in TV-out capability. AmigaVision had drag & drop icons 
with
programatic if-then structures and control capabilities. It was 
great...
way ahead of its time.

In the xtalk arena, there was an Amiga development environment called
Foundation. The scripting language was very close to that of HyperCard.
And it had a very intuitive database builder that provided dbase
connectivity. Dbase was very popular at the time. Those were great 
times!
I miss my Amiga.

Roger Eller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I did a prototype of a commercial app (kiosk) on an Amiga with an
iconic language developed by Commodore.  For the life of me, I can not
remember its name.  Maybe someone out there used Amigas as well.  It 
is
very cool, but it too had its limitations.

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http://www.canelasoftware.com
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Re: Prograph (was Re: MacWorld part 2)

[Paul]

Thanks Dar.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 15, 2005, at 5:41 PM, Paul wrote:
I see. I am re-writing my Buzz-o-sonic program (frequency analyzer 
for measuring impulse-excited materials) in LabVIEW. I have not done 
much with RunRev yet - except a diary app I hope to release when I 
get the time. Are there any user lists like this for LabVIEW? This 
user list is one of the best things about RunRev.

There was back when I was a LabVIEW hotshot.  Check with your NI rep 
or check at the NI web site.  In my glory days I was an Alliance 
member and programmed LabVIEW for both Mac and Windows, but my 
licenses are so old, I now use customers' licenses.  Revolution is 
expensive but it beats going LabVIEW on two or three platforms.

Dar
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RE: RunRev vs RealBasic (Richard Gaskin)

[Bob Hartley]

Hi all.
Here is an alternative perspective on rev vs realbasic. Nothing to do with 
the product usabliity.

Go to these links on the apple store (I use windows myself)
Runtime revolution search
http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/71502/wo/NqzSeidBmxYv2IKanzr7Wtb2d1e/1.3.0.6.5.2.0.2.1.1
runrev search
http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/71502/wo/NqzSeidBmxYv2IKanzr7Wtb2d1e/5.0.11.1.0.6.45.0.1
Realbasic search
http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/71502/wo/NqzSeidBmxYv2IKanzr7Wtb2d1e/7.0.11.1.0.6.45.0.1
So if you dont want to go to the website, then here is a summary.
Nothing found when searching for runrev or revolution or runtime 
revolution. A search for realbasic showed that apple sell realbasic.

Now A NOVICE DEVELOPER who wants to make a wee programme for his mac may 
look on the apple store first and think a I should get this, it 
looks easy then later they discover runrev and think... Oh well I 
have realbasic so although runrev looks better, I now know how to use 
realbasic.

I did the opposite, I looked at realbasic and thought that runrev was 
better, however I cam uppon runrev by chance...

My 2p worth. 

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Re: employee database tutorial

[Bob Hartley]

At 00:47 16/01/2005, you wrote:
Bob-

Hi Mark
Thanks for the tip, however, I have already seen the contact manager. I 
also found it very usefull when originally designing the "basic database 
primer" series.

I now need some more functionality and would like to get the other one for 
the searching and filtering help.


...well, there's a Contact Manager database in revonline. Open
revonline, select Learning Center, then Sample Work, and finally
Sample Projects and All Projects. Here's the direct url (but watch the
line wrapping).

All the best
Bob 

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RE: RunRev vs RealBasic (Richard Gaskin)

[MisterX]

 
>  > - I sometimes have the impression that Revolution as a company
>  > doesn't really exist. They are hardly ever seen in this list,
>  > it's hard to get responses from them. I think that one of the
>  > secrets of the success for RB was (and is) their presence and
>  > visibility in the developer community.
> 
> Agreed 200% -- timely contact with a vendor is critical, as 
> is a regular 
> and ongoing vendor presence on their list.
> 
> Those were both so important I wanted to make sure they were included 
> here, and have cc'd Kevin to make sure he doesn't miss it.

But how many times do we have to come back this subject or tell Kevin this
(I've told him more than a dozen times at least! And I know others have
too!)? 

Just to hear another client request it again later... 

Ah, I know! No one put in a bugzilla request! LOL


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