Re: # POSSIBLY SPAM #::Win vs Mac text hilite
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 07.03.2005 08:40:28 use-revolution-bounces wrote: On Mac OS and OS X, hilited text in a field is drawn as normal, hilited with the hiliteColor. But on Windows, the hilitedColor is honored but the foreColor of the hilitedText is reversed. I have an app where the client would really like to use a yellow hilite, but with the inversion is becomes white when hilited, and against the yellow it's barely readable. Anyone know of a way to prevent the inversion of hilited text on Windows? No matter what you do, the text remains white. This is not how Windows works (text remains black on yellow) so it is a bug in rev... Tested on w2k, XP/W2K3... What's the Bugzilla number? -- I'll add my vote... -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Identifying the caller
Hi Graham, Le 7 mars 05, à 09:04, graham samuel [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Folks, I really should know this by now, but when a handler is called, can its script identify its caller and if so how? I guess there is some context description available but I don't know how to find it in the docs. And while we're at it, what if the invocation of the handler is the result of a send, e.g. send mouseUp to myMouseUpHandler Can I tell from within the handler that it wasn't a true mouse click that invoked it, and if so how? Obviously the engine does know this information - it's just a question of if and how it's made available to the developer. In order to know if a button received a true mouse click or not, I add a boolean parameter when the message is sent by script: send mouseUp true to btn My Button and in the script of the button: on mouseUp pFlag if pFlag then -- sent message else -- true mouse click Amicalement, Eric Chatonet. So Smart Software Pour les institutionnels, les entreprises et les associations Des logiciels sur mesure : gestion, multimédia, internet, etc. Windows, Mac OS et Linux... Avec la french touch For institutions, companies and associations Built-to-order applications: management, multimedia, internet, etc. Windows, Mac OS and Linux... With the French touch Web sitehttp://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Phone 33 (0)1 43 31 77 62 Mobile 33 (0)6 20 74 50 86 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: # POSSIBLY SPAM #::Win vs Mac text hilite
I haven't entered one yet! ;) On 07.03.2005 09:01:06 use-revolution-bounces wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 07.03.2005 08:40:28 use-revolution-bounces wrote: On Mac OS and OS X, hilited text in a field is drawn as normal, hilited with the hiliteColor. But on Windows, the hilitedColor is honored but the foreColor of the hilitedText is reversed. I have an app where the client would really like to use a yellow hilite, but with the inversion is becomes white when hilited, and against the yellow it's barely readable. Anyone know of a way to prevent the inversion of hilited text on Windows? No matter what you do, the text remains white. This is not how Windows works (text remains black on yellow) so it is a bug in rev... Tested on w2k, XP/W2K3... What's the Bugzilla number? -- I'll add my vote... - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGEInternet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message.The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries.END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Win vs Mac text hilite
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mac OS and OS X, hilited text in a field is drawn as normal, hilited with the hiliteColor. But on Windows, the hilitedColor is honored but the foreColor of the hilitedText is reversed. Anyone know of a way to prevent the inversion of hilited text on Windows? No matter what you do, the text remains white. This is not how Windows works (text remains black on yellow) so it is a bug in rev... Tested on w2k, XP/W2K3... What's the Bugzilla number? -- I'll add my vote... I haven't entered one yet! ;) Entering a bug report is the best way to make sure the bug is addressed. Fortunately it seems Monte was on the ball -- he filed #1847 on this: http://support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=1847 I just tossed 5 votes toward it... -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation __ Rev tools and more: http://www.fourthworld.com/rev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Win vs Mac text hilite
And 5 from me! Thanks for finding that! I was about to enter one... cheers Xavier On 07.03.2005 09:20:50 use-revolution-bounces wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mac OS and OS X, hilited text in a field is drawn as normal, hilited with the hiliteColor. But on Windows, the hilitedColor is honored but the foreColor of the hilitedText is reversed. Anyone know of a way to prevent the inversion of hilited text on Windows? No matter what you do, the text remains white. This is not how Windows works (text remains black on yellow) so it is a bug in rev... Tested on w2k, XP/W2K3... What's the Bugzilla number? -- I'll add my vote... I haven't entered one yet! ;) Entering a bug report is the best way to make sure the bug is addressed. Fortunately it seems Monte was on the ball -- he filed #1847 on this: http://support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=1847 I just tossed 5 votes toward it... - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGEInternet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message.The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries.END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Identifying the caller
Hi, gs when a handler is called, gs can its script identify its caller and if so how? I guess there is some gs context description available but I don't know how to find it in the gs docs. gs Obviously the engine does know this information - it's just a question gs of if and how it's made available to the developer. From time to time, i'm using this script which comes mostly from some part of the Rev debugger don't remember in details :-) So, anywhere you want to know the path of all the callers, just put PrintExecutionContexts whateveryoulike in your script and it does the trick. But, as it comes from *inside* Rev, and it's not in the Doc you have been warned :-) Hope this help Regards, thierry #--- on PrintExecutionContexts val put the executionContexts into t put empty into B set the itemdelimiter to comma get item 1 of line 1 of t put the name of it into tObj put item 2 of line 1 of t into tHandler put item 3 of line 1 of t into tLineNoCallNext delete line 1 of t delete last line of t put tHandler in tObj line tLineNoCallNextat the long time cr into H repeat for each line L in t get item 1 of L put tab item 2 of L in the name of it line item 3 of L cr after B end repeat Infos H val cr B end PrintExecutionContexts ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Identifying the caller
On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 16:09:33 -0600, Ken Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can check the executionContexts... the long id of the object that sent the message is in there, right above the long id of the object that is processing the message. Thanks Ken, that was just what I was looking for. BTW, I still believe it isn't in the docs - I had tried filtering with 'context' but the search gives up before you've spelt the word, and a search for 'execution' doesn't reveal anything either. Is this worth BZing? Graham Graham Samuel / The Living Fossil Co. / UK and France ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Identifying the caller
On 3/7/05 3:46 AM, graham samuel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 16:09:33 -0600, Ken Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can check the executionContexts... the long id of the object that sent the message is in there, right above the long id of the object that is processing the message. Thanks Ken, that was just what I was looking for. BTW, I still believe it isn't in the docs - I had tried filtering with 'context' but the search gives up before you've spelt the word, and a search for 'execution' doesn't reveal anything either. Is this worth BZing? Well, maybe if you mark it as an enhancement. Technically it is supposed to be for the IDE developers and more of an internal thing. Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Building standalones from command line
I have looking through the on-line documentation and found nothing. Is it possible to pass make file/script through RR compiler/RAD to build standalones? ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: more rawkeydown problems
On 06 Mar 2005, at 20:04, J. Landman Gay wrote: snip I'm not sure it is a bug, it is just the differences between operating systems. The Rev engine just passes on the key codes that the operating system sends. If you have the MC IDE, see the Character Chooser in the MetaCard Tools menu for examples of these differences. Sometimes you can use the macToISO and ISOtoMac functions to translate between the character sets, but I don't think those functions work with non-ascii keystrokes. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On 07 Mar 2005, at 00:23, Sarah Reichelt wrote: snip While differences between keyboards operating systems are annoying, the keys you are checking are mostly available using other messages. In NumLock is on, the numeric keys generate arrowKey messages and if NumLock is on, the number can be read directly in a keyDown or keyUp handler. Cheers, Sarah Thank you Jacqueline, Sarah and Tobi for your responses. The rev rawkeydown handler reports a kind of mixed raw keys values: ascii code and raw code in the range between 65000 - 65999. Seeing Tobi's little app. (tnx Tobi) I'm inclined to think the values of the rawkeydown handler in rev in the region above 65000 are due to rev's own system of administering values to keys (but i'll be wrong ;-) So I'm not sure this is due only to differences between operating systems and by this not a bug. If the help key is giving a value of 268762986 on mac os x, I consider this not a correct value though it is unique for the help key on mac os x. The same for the `key in american qwerty keyboard layout, it should give the ascii value and not a zero. And so on... Sarah you said: In NumLock is on, the numeric keys generate arrowKey messages and if NumLock is on, the number can be read directly in a keyDown or keyUp handler On win yes but not on mac os x. The numlockkey doesn't affect the value of the numerical keys on the numerical keypad in mac os x. And there is no numLockKey function we could use to poll the numLockKey condition like there is a capsLockKey function. (and the keyboard is not broken as the numlockkey works in win vpc) Revolution, being a crossplatform RAD, should make keyboard input as uniform as possible between platforms regarding it's own application and offshoots. But I'll refrain from bugzilla-ing until further notice. Greetings, Wouter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Wisconsin Rev Users/Midwest Rev User Group (Was Re:altBrowser application)
I am also in Wisconsin (Glendale, Milwaukee). I have not done much with RunRev recently as I'm working on a LabVIEW project. It is nice to know that there are other Wisconsinites. Cheers, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/6/05 7:38 PM, Derek Bump [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I have to deliver the altBrowser app with an installer or splash drop it into a directory then auto run the app from a directory off the windows pc ? You would have to deliver both the Standalone Application and the altBrowser.dll. You can put the altBrowser.dll in any directory you wish just as long as your app can find it when it's starting up. It's easiest to just put it into the same directory as your app, but you can also put it into system directories as others have mentioned. Yes I'm here in Oak Creek Wisconsin, what's your location Wis also ? Madison, WI. It's nice to see someone else from Wisconsin here. I was beginning to think I was the only one. :) Well, there's at least one more! I'm in Eau Claire, WI. :-) Say, Jacque Gay (who's in Minneapollis) and I were thinking about trying to organize a midwest Rev users group. If anyone is interested, please contact me off list. Thanks, Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Dr. Paul Bosomworth Owner/Developer BuzzMac Software LLC Ph: 414-352-5419 FAX: 253-540-9798 Web: http://www.buzzmac.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
2 new How-to stacks available
Hi everyone, I put 2 new How-to stacks on RevOnLine and Super RevOnLine (i.e. RevNet from Richard Gaskin :-): #009 How to fix the decorations (titlebar appearance) Shows all the different title bars a window can display with Rev 2.1 or later. In the Stack Property Inspector, a dialog lets you choose between 4 sets of title bar controls but 4 interesting combinations are absent: you will have a better control by scripting! #010 How to drag and drop files and folders Shows how to manage multiple files and/or folders drag and drop, how to know the right kind of data for each file and how to display corresponding data into a field, an image or a player. On RevOnLine: User name: So Smart Software Category: Programming On RevNet: Tutorials section To donwload RevNet, go to http://www.fourthworld.com/rev/index.html With best regards, Eric Chatonet. --- For institutions, companies and associations Built-to-order applications: management, multimedia, internet, etc. Windows, Mac OS and Linux... With the French touch --- Web site http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Post 24, Bd de Port-Royal 75005 Paris Phone (33) 143 317 762 Mobile (33) 620 745 086 --- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Arithmetic operations on dates ?
Are we talking about the fact that when we do something like: get the date convert it to dateItems The result is: 2005,3,7,2,0,0,2 instead of perhaps: 2005,3,7,0,0,0,2 ?? Michael On Mar 6, 2005, at 11:39 AM, Bill Vlahos wrote: I believe it is 2am. Bill Vlahos ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
HowTo Question?
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Re: Identifying the caller
Ken- Sunday, March 6, 2005, 2:09:33 PM, you wrote: KR You can check the executionContexts... the long id of the object that sent KR the message is in there, right above the long id of the object that is KR processing the message. ...although the usual caveats about using undocumented functions should be noted here. I consider this one safe because 1. there's no other way I know of to get this info, and 2. the IDE uses it so it's not likely to disappear in the near future. I think of it more as an omission in the documentation which will be fixed up Real Soon Now. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Export snapshot
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 If you are using OS X, put whatever it is on a card and try to print the card, with a dialog box of course... you can click Save as PDF from there (or Preview and use the Preview program to save it, if pre-X.3). IS there a way to save as a pdf by chance? - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCLG7A7aqtWrR9cZoRAkQBAJ91Hr+j6/dUPGz0E94LdG42olyyLACfYkPA YU0wsFKBySHI0vPZTQXp9sA= =938w -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 120MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Left/Right Shift?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I don't think there is any such beast built-in to Rev, but this *should* have equivalent functionality (though granted somewhat slower): function shift_left num, byBits return num * (2 ^ byBits) end shift_left function shift_right num, byBits return trunc(num / (2 ^ byBits)) end shift_right On Mar 6, 2005, at 5:00 PM, N wrote: What are the key words aka operators that do a left/right shift (bits)? Kevin - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCLHNu7aqtWrR9cZoRAvntAJ0W7D1LLciTcF9yiPVlhA9MKgx0UQCeJXMx n8K6ciMwUMc2PPHVD1h0nPk= =/51/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 120MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Building standalones from command line
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Look up the savingStandalone and standaloneSaved messages in the docs; perhaps you can use one or both of those to accomplish what you need to do? On Mar 7, 2005, at 9:09 AM, N wrote: I have looking through the on-line documentation and found nothing. Is it possible to pass make file/script through RR compiler/RAD to build standalones? ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCLHW87aqtWrR9cZoRArwSAJ44IDwWSofzhrbsSc5KWKa43ytfWgCghurZ 2mYtIiG5cN1N7KCGWmfW4sg= =zo3i -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 120MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [noob again]static text
Mikey- Sunday, March 6, 2005, 12:02:00 PM, you wrote: M I'll reiterate: I was surprised, because RR is the only development M tool I can remember that lacks a static text tool. It doesn't really ...and once again, HC never had a static text tool - you could simply paint a bitmap on the screen. RR's label field offers editable static *text* that can be moved about on the screen without having to cut and paste a bitmap. M I'll reiterate my call for a set of manuals. I take it you have some objection to ordering them? http://secure.runrev.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PRODProduct_Code=MANLPRNTCategory_Code=REVNBOOKStore_Code=SDREBWLP -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: HowTo Question?
How do I move a control from on card to another (the cards are not visable and are used only for data storage)? you must first create cards to move things to. a new stack has only card 1. create card now you have 2 cards copy button 1 to card 2 - and voila! you can use background behavior groups to group card as well. Any non-background group in a card is not seen elsewhere than that card. For that it's important to remember to create a group in the background group, not outside... Or it will only appear while you visit that card. read the rev docs on cards and stack structures... It will help you. Each record in the revdocs is a card! To bridge this all into one easy to grasp concept, a background is like a view to many different records with the same interface. Contrary to Filemaker, all backgrounds do not share the same cards! So it's more complex if you want it! But keep it simple. Since MetaCard and RunRev, one background per stack suffice... See ya! Xa ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [noob again]static text
cutting stuff that's already dead in this thread/ M I'll reiterate my call for a set of manuals. I take it you have some objection to ordering them? http://secure.runrev.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PRODProduct_Code=MANLPRNTCategory_Code=REVNBOOKStore_Code=SDREBWLP The objection I have is to paying for access to basic reference material. I'm not asking for printed manuals. I'm not aware of any products that have printed docs included any more. However, they have electronic docs included. This weekend I went through the web site tutorial pdf's and the documentation stack trying to find the info. I was looking for. Unfortunately that search was unsuccessful. A few tutorial movies, some random access help and an online user group is not the same thing. While it's obvous that most of you have grown comfortable to this setup, it is hardly helpful to new users (regardless of their past experience with tool x, y, z, or w), and it makes it harder to persuade clients and the powers-that-be that the tool is mature when it lacks something that is generally taken for granted. Sure, we can get people up to speed - uh, but we're going to have to do it in sort of a trial-and-error sort of fashion because there isn't any sort of theme-organized language reference or design guide...well, you could cough up another Benjamin for printed docs (which I'm assuming are complete and applicable for the current version), or there's this third party book for $40. Since we're in the mode of trying to decide if we're going to shell out for one or several corporate licenses, or put RR in the wait and see category and continue with the plan to convert our existing stacks to other environments, which sort of reduces the future value of RR to us, the little things such as this make a difference. It's a much more awkward sell. On the good news side of the coin, it didn't hurt that on a Sunday I was able to crank out a question on this latest issue and get a quick series of replies. The activity level on this list is somewhat encouraging. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
saving information.
Dear Rev Programers I need to know how to save field information from within a stack. I have a button save when I click it I want safe the information in the fields on a text file. I want it to add not replace. Paul Salyers PS1 - Senior Rep. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Http://ps1.SoftSeven.org ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Midi Comunications
Any midi device should have a clock to synch to. The computers, the soundcard (preferred if you use computer effects), sound mixer (if you can afford that kind of mixer) (best), the midi keyboard too (best for performers without need of effects). I maybe wrong regarding the best clock but I think that's what it comes down to... There's also the case where you use ASIO for midi (much less latency!) - popular driver from Steinberg. AFAIK, I choose the main device to which they all should synch to and the rest is magic, eh, fruity... I suppose this would be possible through a QuicktimeSynch as well but dont know if possible - could be easy for Mac programmers. You can also get ASIO for the Mac... Just showing you ways if it helps! Xavier -- http://monsieurx.com/runrev.php -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kurt Kaufman Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 01:26 To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: Midi Comunications Perhaps the most challenging aspect of handling MIDI data through whatever port (USB or serial) will be the clocking issue: The volume of data may be small compared to audio or video, but the continuous synchronization of the pulse between an external MIDI device and the computer is critical. Does anyone know of a good reference for this area of MIDI programming? (Re: OS X) Has Apple made available information about compatibility with its Audio MIDI Setup utility? Kurt ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [noob again]static text
Mikey- Monday, March 7, 2005, 8:42:50 AM, you wrote: M The objection I have is to paying for access to basic reference M material. I'm not asking for printed manuals. I'm not aware of any M products that have printed docs included any more. However, they have M electronic docs included. This weekend I went through the web site The printed docs are just what you get in the IDE under documentation, so obviously the online docs will be more current. In there, under How do I display text on a card? I see what I believe is the answer to your original question: To create a field that is pre-set to display static text, choose Object menuNew ControlLabel Field. Then use the Contents pane in the fie (sic) property inspector to edit the text. The runrev IDE has a finite learning curve. Granted, the docs need better searching tools (long-standing topic of complaining here in the list), but griping that there's no documentation isn't a substitute for taking the time to learn how to use the tools available. Runrev *isn't* HyperCard, and those of us with HC backgrounds have some unlearning to do (backgrounds and such) in order to fit into the new environment. MOn the good news side of the coin, it didn't hurt that on a Sunday I Mwas able to crank out a question on this latest issue and get a quick Mseries of replies. The activity level on this list is somewhat Mencouraging. Ain't this list great? I've certainly learned a lot here. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Export snapshot
On 3/7/05 7:09 AM, Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are using OS X, put whatever it is on a card and try to print the card, with a dialog box of course... you can click Save as PDF from there (or Preview and use the Preview program to save it, if pre-X.3). IS there a way to save as a pdf by chance? I was hoping there was a way to do it without user intervention. What I'm putting together is an app that will pick up email orders from my Miva Merchant store, generate a mailing label, pick up the actual pdf files to be printed and send that all on to my fulfillment center where they will produce and ship the item to the customer. They would like everything in pdf format. Currently I've used Sarah's POP library and Shao Sean's libSmtp libEmail to build most of it and I have it working great. It's just that the mailing label is a jpg that I create using the export snapshot feature. I'm waiting to see if the fulfillment people will accept the jpg instead of a pdf. I'm using Rev 2.2.1-- I don't know if the latest version has anything that would help me in this regard. Thanks, Marty Knapp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: saving information.
Here's one button script that would do it (assuming you pre-set the value in 'gMyTextFile'): on mouseUp global gMyTextFile -- contains the full pathname of your text file put --1--- cr fld first cr \ --2--- cr fld second cr \ --3--- cr fld third cr cr \ after url (file: gMyTextFile) end mouseUp This would put the following into your text file: --1--- first field stuff lniuo niyu gkjyv jytf --2--- second field stuff k,jn kjn lj,hvkj hftchf dxhn tgrfxh rtx --3--- third field stuff uytf uy5fyjt ktfli uglu --1--- 1st fld - round 2 oi hpioh iuhl iu --2--- 2nd fld - round 2 oipo8jp;oji' ... and so on. Phil Davis Paul Salyers wrote: Dear Rev Programers I need to know how to save field information from within a stack. I have a button save when I click it I want safe the information in the fields on a text file. I want it to add not replace. Paul Salyers PS1 - Senior Rep. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Http://ps1.SoftSeven.org ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [noob again]static text
Do you not have a Documentation button on your toolbar? Judy On Mon, 7 Mar 2005, Mikey wrote: The objection I have is to paying for access to basic reference material. I'm not asking for printed manuals. I'm not aware of any products that have printed docs included any more. However, they have electronic docs included. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [noob again]static text
The printed docs are just what you get in the IDE under documentation, so obviously the online docs will be more current. In there, under How do I display text on a card? I see what I believe is the answer to your original question: The runrev IDE has a finite learning curve. Granted, the docs need better searching tools (long-standing topic of complaining here in the list), but griping that there's no documentation isn't a substitute for taking the time to learn how to use the tools available. With all due respect, that stance won't get the money released, and it certainly doesn't get staff on board. Griping that the docs are inadequate is the frustration of a newbie trying to get a very simple issue resolved, who then needs to justify the decision. Luckily your stance isn't from someone with runrev.com in their email address or the decision as to which direction to go would be made and over with. In the case of a tool like RR, the docs need to be better because the paradigm is very different and often it's difficult to match the vocabulary, even for people familiar with cousins of it. Come to think of it, the docs on how to use the docs aren't complete either, leaving me with the question of What would have led me to search for what you were searching for to get the answer to the question I was rasing?. I'm afraid the answer is Nothing. I'm getting off this thread. Arguing about it isn't going to address anything. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
ftp puzzler.
humpf, I have a script that ftp's a few files up to my anonymous ftp space. This works OK on my Mac G3, but the same script and destination path fails under WinXP with a 'socket not open' error message. My script uses LibURLFtpUpload, but I've also tried that and put and get from the message box with no success. I can ftp OK on the XP machine using my ftp client, I can do http and post transactions from within rev, but anything from rev involving ftp seems to fail. I'm no comms expert, but AFAIK there's nothing unusual about the ftp server and the Windows firewall setup is plain vanilla. This is in RR 2.1.2 Working on Mac only is OK in the short term, but I'll need this to work on windows too ultimately. Any ideas what might be wrong ? Martin Baxter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Export snapshot
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 You might want to look into the Ghostscript project. If you can generate the needed PostScript source text, Ghostscript can convert that to a PDF. PostScript is just another computer language, but one specifically designed for handling the layout of pages. For example: %! newpath 72 72 moveto 144 144 lineto stroke showpage The above PostScript code simply creates a diagonal line in the lower-left-hand corner of the page. Not sure if this is within the bounds of your capabilities and what you are trying to accomplish, but it should work if you can put it all together... On Mar 7, 2005, at 12:30 PM, Marty Knapp wrote: On 3/7/05 7:09 AM, Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are using OS X, put whatever it is on a card and try to print the card, with a dialog box of course... you can click Save as PDF from there (or Preview and use the Preview program to save it, if pre-X.3). IS there a way to save as a pdf by chance? I was hoping there was a way to do it without user intervention. What I'm putting together is an app that will pick up email orders from my Miva Merchant store, generate a mailing label, pick up the actual pdf files to be printed and send that all on to my fulfillment center where they will produce and ship the item to the customer. They would like everything in pdf format. Currently I've used Sarah's POP library and Shao Sean's libSmtp libEmail to build most of it and I have it working great. It's just that the mailing label is a jpg that I create using the export snapshot feature. I'm waiting to see if the fulfillment people will accept the jpg instead of a pdf. I'm using Rev 2.2.1-- I don't know if the latest version has anything that would help me in this regard. Thanks, Marty Knapp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCLJlc7aqtWrR9cZoRAgMdAKCJUIDDx04poOF9FFtQ/s0wDsdQVACgh7Bv CPUHxCEyTv8UBoSoh55S0lQ= =oCDR -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 120MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Arithmetic operations on dates ?
Michael, In Revolution days start at 2 am - except for days that start daylight savings time or end daylight savings time, which start at 3 am or 1 am. If you are using seconds, these days have one hour more or less seconds than regular days. In a previous post you said Rev. converted 29 Feb properly to 1 Mar. I did not get that result and have not had time to recheck it, I'll let you know. Paul Looney ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Export snapshot
On 3/7/05 10:11 AM, Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You might want to look into the Ghostscript project. If you can generate the needed PostScript source text, Ghostscript can convert that to a PDF. PostScript is just another computer language, but one specifically designed for handling the layout of pages. For example: %! newpath 72 72 moveto 144 144 lineto stroke showpage The above PostScript code simply creates a diagonal line in the lower-left-hand corner of the page. Thanks for the tip Frank. I think I'll wait to see if the jpg will be acceptable, then go from there. If not I'll check out the Ghostscript thing. Marty Knapp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 18, Issue 24
But the online docs that are present (as far as I know) in every distribution of Revolution and Dreamcard are the manuals... Many people, including me have had trouble finding what they were looking for, but then it's a big language. Familiarising myself with the various sections of the docs, ie. not just the dictionary, has been of great benefit to me, and I recommend doing it. I don't say that the docs are perfect, by any means, but they are comprehensive - witness how many times an enquiry on this list is dealt with by someone replying 'check out whatever in the docs'. I've often found that that was all I needed to help with the difficulties that I've had. I long for a book like Winkler and Kamins HyperTalk book, where every single command and function in the language is explained in detail, with a nice clear example of it's use, but then Transcript is orders of magnitude broader and deeper than HyperTalk, and such a book would be a truly colossal undertaking. In the mean time, the provided docs actually do cover everything, though sometimes sparsely, and in those cases, one of the many kindly and knowledgeable people here will almost certainly be willing to oblige. I personally sprung for the printed docs (which are only the online docs printed out) as I like to browse at random, and It's been well worth it for me. Cheers, Mark M I'll reiterate my call for a set of manuals. I take it you have some objection to ordering them? http://secure.runrev.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc? Screen=PRODProduct_Code=MANLPRNTCategory_Code=REVNBOOKStore_Code=SD REBWLP The objection I have is to paying for access to basic reference material. I'm not asking for printed manuals. I'm not aware of any products that have printed docs included any more. However, they have electronic docs included. This weekend I went through the web site tutorial pdf's and the documentation stack trying to find the info. I was looking for. Unfortunately that search was unsuccessful. A few tutorial movies, some random access help and an online user group is not the same thing. While it's obvous that most of you have grown comfortable to this setup, it is hardly helpful to new users (regardless of their past experience with tool x, y, z, or w), and it makes it harder to persuade clients and the powers-that-be that the tool is mature when it lacks something that is generally taken for granted. Sure, we can get people up to speed - uh, but we're going to have to do it in sort of a trial-and-error sort of fashion because there isn't any sort of theme-organized language reference or design guide...well, you could cough up another Benjamin for printed docs (which I'm assuming are complete and applicable for the current version), or there's this third party book for $40. Since we're in the mode of trying to decide if we're going to shell out for one or several corporate licenses, or put RR in the wait and see category and continue with the plan to convert our existing stacks to other environments, which sort of reduces the future value of RR to us, the little things such as this make a difference. It's a much more awkward sell. On the good news side of the coin, it didn't hurt that on a Sunday I was able to crank out a question on this latest issue and get a quick series of replies. The activity level on this list is somewhat encouraging. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution End of use-revolution Digest, Vol 18, Issue 24 ** ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Export snapshot
On 3/7/05 7:09 AM, Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are using OS X, put whatever it is on a card and try to print the card, with a dialog box of course... you can click Save as PDF from there (or Preview and use the Preview program to save it, if pre-X.3). IS there a way to save as a pdf by chance? I was hoping there was a way to do it without user intervention. What I'm putting together is an app that will pick up email orders from my Miva Merchant store, generate a mailing label, pick up the actual pdf files to be printed and send that all on to my fulfillment center where they will produce and ship the item to the customer. They would like everything in pdf format. Currently I've used Sarah's POP library and Shao Sean's libSmtp libEmail to build most of it and I have it working great. It's just that the mailing label is a jpg that I create using the export snapshot feature. I'm waiting to see if the fulfillment people will accept the jpg instead of a pdf. I'm using Rev 2.2.1-- I don't know if the latest version has anything that would help me in this regard. Thanks, Marty Knapp I would look into PHP, which can create a pdf from a script. You could post data from rev to a PHP script, which could then output or return a pdf, or something along those lines. Martin Baxter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Export snapshot
On 3/7/05 11:44 AM, Martin Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would look into PHP, which can create a pdf from a script. You could post data from rev to a PHP script, which could then output or return a pdf, or something along those lines. Martin Baxter Cool. Thanks Martin Marty Knapp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Rev Packaged App hanging
REVers, Using Revolution, I've created a main stack that reads from and writes to an external preferences text file entitled TJsettings.txt. In the stack script (on openstack) starts with: put the filename of this stack into MyPathWay repeat until the last char of myPathWay is / delete last char of MyPathWay end repeat put myPathWay TJsettings.txt into MyPathWay answer myPathway --BUG TEST line open file MyPathWay read from file MyPathWay until EOF put it into TheSettings put theSettings into fld settings - then I'll pull info from fld setting to reset preferences Only thing is-- it's not working... The BUG TEST line results in Users/steve/Desktop/JeopardyQs/TJsettings.txt which is accurate. But nothing is appearing in the fld settings Any advice? Steve -- -- Steve Bonham Director, Faculty Technology Development Laboratory Center for Excellence in Teaching - Georgia Southern University Statesboro, GA 30460-8143 -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev Packaged App hanging
Steve Bonham wrote: REVers, Using Revolution, I've created a main stack that reads from and writes to an external preferences text file entitled TJsettings.txt. In the stack script (on openstack) starts with: put the filename of this stack into MyPathWay repeat until the last char of myPathWay is / delete last char of MyPathWay end repeat put myPathWay TJsettings.txt into MyPathWay answer myPathway --BUG TEST line open file MyPathWay read from file MyPathWay until EOF put it into TheSettings put theSettings into fld settings - then I'll pull info from fld setting to reset preferences Only thing is-- it's not working... The BUG TEST line results in Users/steve/Desktop/JeopardyQs/TJsettings.txt which is accurate. But nothing is appearing in the fld settings Any advice? The Subject line suggests the app is hanging - while the description sounds like it completes, just fails to get anything into the field. So I'm not quite sure if this will help, but ... open file MyPathWay put Result from open =the result cr after msg read from file MyPathWay until EOF put it into TheSettings put Result after read = the result cr after msg put theSettings into fld settings btw - did you include a close MyPathWay ? Is it possible that the file was already open and had reached EOF ? (I'm not sure what happens when you open a file that is already still open ) Alternatively, try put URL (file: MyPathWay) into TheSettings instead of the open and the read. -- Alex Tweedly http://www.tweedly.net -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.0 - Release Date: 02/03/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Suggestions?
On 3/7/05 4:11 PM, Richard Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Suggestions on how to do this. I've quite a number of ideas, but I'm not sure of the fastest and most stable (and perhaps easiest) way. One concern is with multiple users (the ones supplying data) trying to check in at the same time. Personally I'd suggest setting up a Rev CGI on your central server, with a database that it can access to read/write data. Just my 2 cents, Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Export snapshot
If you are using OS X, put whatever it is on a card and try to print the card, with a dialog box of course... you can click Save as PDF from there (or Preview and use the Preview program to save it, if pre-X.3). IS there a way to save as a pdf by chance? I was hoping there was a way to do it without user intervention. What I'm putting together is an app that will pick up email orders from my Miva Merchant store, generate a mailing label, pick up the actual pdf files to be printed and send that all on to my fulfillment center where they will produce and ship the item to the customer. They would like everything in pdf format. Could you AppleScript Preview to create the pdf? Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Arithmetic operations on dates ?
I don't see that days start a 2 am. If I have a list of dateItems 2005,3,8,23,59,59,0 (Tue March 8, 2005, one minute until midnight) and I add 2 to item six, convert the resulting list to dateItems, the list is 2005,3,8,0,0,1,4 (Wed March 9, 2005, one minute after midnight) You have specified a time, so that is shown accurately in the dateitems. What are the circumstances and/or the script where the day is starting at 2 am? Try this: put the short date into tNow convert tNow to dateItems This will give you the correct date but the time shown will be 2 am. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Suggestions?
Richard Miller asked: I've got a dedicated Mac server available, on which I want to place a Rev application to gather and disseminate the required information. The first 100 computers will continually inform that central application of their status, and the other 100 will continually ask this application for the status of the first 100 users. I suggest having a Rev stack running permanently on the server that communicates with clients using TCP/IP sockets. This should work since the data sent in each of your messages is small (socket messages are around 1400 KB max). For example scripts see the Rev site Video Tutorials Sample Projects Internet Chat (also the chatRev examples in Rev Online, User Spaces, General). The alternative of sending posts to a Rev CGI causes an instance of Rev to open for each post, as I understand things, so would seem to be more resource intensive. Rich [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Suggestions?
Richard Miller wrote: Looking for suggestions on how to best handle the following scenario. Imagine a number of computers spread out across the country (some PC's, some Mac's) running a custom Rev application. On each computer, the application continually (every 30-60 seconds) sends a small file (just a few characters) into a central server. This file contains information about the availability of the user (available now, within 10 minutes, not available). Let's say there are 100 of these computers and applications running at any given time, all reporting in every 30 seconds or so. What's the relationship between the user and the computer ? i.e. can the same user be on 2 of the machines at the same time ? if so, what should be reported as the status for that user - the one that happened to give the most recent status, or the most available? or what ? Does the status say User 1 is available now on machine 123.1.1.1 ? if not, is there already a scheme to prevent it (or simply an assumption that it shouldn't happen) ? is there a finite set of users ? how big ? or is user equivalent to computer ? I've also got another 100 computers (all Mac's) running a different Rev application. Each of these computers needs to know the combined status of the first 100 users, continually polling for this data every 30 seconds. So, for example, at any given moment it knows: User 1 is available now User 2 is not available User 3 is not available, User 4 will be available in 10 minutes etc.. I've got a dedicated Mac server available, on which I want to place a Rev application to gather and disseminate the required information. The first 100 computers will continually inform that central application of their status, and the other 100 will continually ask this application for the status of the first 100 users. Suggestions on how to do this. I've quite a number of ideas, but I'm not sure of the fastest and most stable (and perhaps easiest) way. One concern is with multiple users (the ones supplying data) trying to check in at the same time. Best way : (esp. if your user base might grow over time) - central app using a database. But for the current problem description this is probably overkill. Depending on your answers to the above questions, you could probably do Simplest way: (NB Only if users are unique and not too numerous) create a status file per user. on the user client: put myStatus into URL (http://remote.machine.net/statuses/; myUserName) on the server: run a Rev script that every 10 seconds (or whatever level of currency is required) does the equivalent of cd /httpdocs/statuses cat * ../newstatus cd .. mv newstatus allstatus (or just stick that shell script into a cron job) on the other clients: put URL http://remote.machine.net/allstatus; into allStatus No programming (or almost no programming) to do, very simple, easy to monitor (just look at files and dates). Interlocks are handed by the file system - the rename is an atomic operation, so safe (on Unix - I'm assuming OS X operates the same way) from read/write clashes. -- Alex Tweedly http://www.tweedly.net -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.0 - Release Date: 02/03/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev Packaged App hanging
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 No, it should be /Users/steve/Desktop/JeopardyQs/TJsettings.txt -- note the leading '/' character. Like the other posters, however, I do think it would be much easier if you just used the put URL method. Consider something like: function prefsFile switch the platform case MacOS put specialfolderpath(preferences) into spfp break case Win32 if word 1 of the systemVersion is NT then put specialFolderPath(26) into spfp else put specialFolderPath(system) into spfp end if break default put $HOME into spfp break end switch return file: spfp /TJsettings.ini -- replace filename to match yours end prefsFile Now you can do this: put mySettings into URL prefsFile() -- save settings to prefs file put URL prefsFile() into mySettings -- read settings from prefs file On Mar 7, 2005, at 4:17 PM, Steve Bonham wrote: The BUG TEST line results in Users/steve/Desktop/JeopardyQs/TJsettings.txt which is accurate. But nothing is appearing in the fld settings - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCLOu07aqtWrR9cZoRAggeAJ9ckgfzEGP5HsGKdVX8cla5X9QBFQCgj2ku uVWWWUCLeBQxV8jyGZeXgy4= =U5q/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 120MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [noob again]static text
Mikey wrote: In the case of a tool like RR, the docs need to be better because the paradigm is very different and often it's difficult to match the vocabulary, even for people familiar with cousins of it. I agree. While I feel Rev offers an unusually strong ROI over the long term, that ROI is the result of an unusual paradigm, requiring special care in guiding the new user beyond what would be needed for a non-proprietary language/object model such as C++ or Python. What languages/tools have you worked with before? Perhaps we can better tailor responses to where you're coming from. Come to think of it, the docs on how to use the docs aren't complete either, leaving me with the question of What would have led me to search for what you were searching for to get the answer to the question I was rasing?. I'm afraid the answer is Nothing. This is a topic of eager interest to me, as I'm working on some indexing/data mining tools and find the cognitive side of searching interesting. With more than 3,000 pages' worth of material I'm fairly confident that what you need is there. But I agree the search index is weak so finding things can be difficult. I came in late here -- could I trouble you to remind me what it was you were looking for, and what terms you used to find it? That would be very helpful for the team, who I believe are revising the indexing scheme as I write this. In the meantime, here's a tip: What the docs call FAQ isn't the sort of miscellaneous bin FAQ you find with most products; with Rev it's really the topical guide you're looking for. Pretend that FAQ is labeled User Guide and you may find what you need more easily, often without needing to use the search feature at all. Also, given the very unusual nature of Transcript I can't recommend stongly enough the value of learning by doing something very small at first. Getting the lay of the land with a very small task can make moving on to bigger things much easier. Earlier you had written: Since we're in the mode of trying to decide if we're going to shell out for one or several corporate licenses, or put RR in the wait and see category and continue with the plan to convert our existing stacks to other environments, which sort of reduces the future value of RR to us, the little things such as this make a difference. It's a much more awkward sell. That would be unfortunate, as I believe that once you get past this initial orientation you'll be quite happy with the results. But having worked in a few other languages myself I'm also keenly sensitive to your position, and have been lobbying for the return of some materials that were in an earlier version of Help which were aimed at programmers with different levels of experience with different specific tools. In lieu of that, for now you have us here on this list. :) FWIW, after teaching Transcript as a second language for some years now I've found the following pattern to be fairly consistent with most newcomers: Two days into the product: What the hell is going on? I can't figure this thing out! Damn, what were they thinking? One week: Wow. I've reviewed the language dictionary and I'm very intrigued by what's there. If only I could put all the parts together to make something useful. Two weeks: I just finished my first project. It was a bit of a challenge but I think I'm getting the hang of this. One month: Cool. I'm feeling confident with this. I can do most of what I need, and although I'm still looking up a lot of terms in the Dictionary I'm beginning to feel really good about this. Six months: I love this thing. I'm at least as productive with Rev as I had been with the other tool I'd been using for years, maybe more so. One year: I love this thing like no other. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
The Wisconsin Connection
On Mar 6, 2005, at 9:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes Im here in Oak Creek Wisconsin, whats your location Wis also ? I grew up 20 miles west of Madison; my parents still live there. Dave Calkins ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Suggestions?
This is most similar to the way I was imagining doing it. It does appear to be simple. And yes, the users are not very numerous (no more than 100 for the next six months) and they are all unique (one user per computer reporting their availability). Thanks. Richard On Mar 7, 2005, at 7:02 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote: Richard Miller wrote: Looking for suggestions on how to best handle the following scenario. Imagine a number of computers spread out across the country (some PC's, some Mac's) running a custom Rev application. On each computer, the application continually (every 30-60 seconds) sends a small file (just a few characters) into a central server. This file contains information about the availability of the user (available now, within 10 minutes, not available). Let's say there are 100 of these computers and applications running at any given time, all reporting in every 30 seconds or so. What's the relationship between the user and the computer ? i.e. can the same user be on 2 of the machines at the same time ? if so, what should be reported as the status for that user - the one that happened to give the most recent status, or the most available? or what ? Does the status say User 1 is available now on machine 123.1.1.1 ? if not, is there already a scheme to prevent it (or simply an assumption that it shouldn't happen) ? is there a finite set of users ? how big ? or is user equivalent to computer ? I've also got another 100 computers (all Mac's) running a different Rev application. Each of these computers needs to know the combined status of the first 100 users, continually polling for this data every 30 seconds. So, for example, at any given moment it knows: User 1 is available now User 2 is not available User 3 is not available, User 4 will be available in 10 minutes etc.. I've got a dedicated Mac server available, on which I want to place a Rev application to gather and disseminate the required information. The first 100 computers will continually inform that central application of their status, and the other 100 will continually ask this application for the status of the first 100 users. Suggestions on how to do this. I've quite a number of ideas, but I'm not sure of the fastest and most stable (and perhaps easiest) way. One concern is with multiple users (the ones supplying data) trying to check in at the same time. Best way : (esp. if your user base might grow over time) - central app using a database. But for the current problem description this is probably overkill. Depending on your answers to the above questions, you could probably do Simplest way: (NB Only if users are unique and not too numerous) create a status file per user. on the user client: put myStatus into URL (http://remote.machine.net/statuses/; myUserName) on the server: run a Rev script that every 10 seconds (or whatever level of currency is required) does the equivalent of cd /httpdocs/statuses cat * ../newstatus cd .. mv newstatus allstatus (or just stick that shell script into a cron job) on the other clients: put URL http://remote.machine.net/allstatus; into allStatus No programming (or almost no programming) to do, very simple, easy to monitor (just look at files and dates). Interlocks are handed by the file system - the rename is an atomic operation, so safe (on Unix - I'm assuming OS X operates the same way) from read/write clashes. -- Alex Tweedly http://www.tweedly.net -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.0 - Release Date: 02/03/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Export snapshot
On 3/7/05 3:25 PM, Sarah Reichelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IS there a way to save as a pdf by chance? I was hoping there was a way to do it without user intervention. What I'm putting together is an app that will pick up email orders from my Miva Merchant store, generate a mailing label, pick up the actual pdf files to be printed and send that all on to my fulfillment center where they will produce and ship the item to the customer. They would like everything in pdf format. Could you AppleScript Preview to create the pdf? Sarah Hey Sarah, Great job on the POP library, by the way! I've never touched Applescript. Basically I'm dumping a name and address into a field in a substack and exporting it with the snapshot feature, so as you know it can be in any graphic format that Rev handles. My fulfillment center has asked for a pdf, though. So maybe a simple Applescript could convert it using Preview (or Photoshop)? Marty Knapp BTW I just came home and checked my little app. I placed a couple of fake orders-- it picked up the orders on schedule, attached the pdf and my mailing label and sent it back to myself-- worked great! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Web browser kind of thing
Ok how hard would it be to make the window display and interact with a web site? I just want it to bring up a logon page, let them log and and edit info. using forms on the site. Not sure if this is a hard thing to do or not but if anybody could push in in the right directions I would be greatful. Can I create the HTML like forms in Rev and send in info. the the website via URL? I would have to use the GET but might not be that bad? Oh and I am really ne to Rev and this kind of programming :) Stephen -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 266.5.0 - Release Date: 2/25/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Web browser kind of thing
Ok how hard would it be to make the window display and interact with a web site? I just want it to bring up a logon page, let them log and and edit info. using forms on the site. Not sure if this is a hard thing to do or not but if anybody could push in in the right directions I would be greatful. Can I create the HTML like forms in Rev and send in info. the the website via URL? I would have to use the GET but might not be that bad? Oh and I am really ne to Rev and this kind of programming :) Howdy Checkout the url keyword and the post command. Urls are treated as containers in Rev so interacting with CGI scripts using HTTP GET is very easy. If you need HTTP POST then use the post command. Cheers -- Monte Goulding Sweat Technologies InstallGadget - How to create an installer in 10 seconds Download now from: http://www.sweattechnologies.com/InstallGadget ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
revCopyFile problems on OSX , shell or Applescript solution best?
Ello - I've run into the occasionally/often? bemoaned problem where revCopyFile fails under OSX. It seems to be particularly flakey in my case as I'm copying the same set of files in and out of various folders during testing of an app I'm developing. Searching the archive revealed suggestions along the lines of using applescript to tickle the folder using 'update folder' and various shell scripts. Can someone who's already 'been there' suggest the best solution? Ideally one that maintains resource forks etc. as revCopyFile is supposed to. Thanks in advance, Terry... Dr Terry Judd Lecturer in Educational Technology (Design) Biomedical Multimedia Unit Faculty of Medicine, Dentistry Health Sciences The University of Melbourne Parkville VIC 3052 AUSTRALIA ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Export snapshot
On 3/7/05 5:25 PM, Sarah Reichelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are using OS X, put whatever it is on a card and try to print the card, with a dialog box of course... you can click Save as PDF from there (or Preview and use the Preview program to save it, if pre-X.3). IS there a way to save as a pdf by chance? I was hoping there was a way to do it without user intervention. What I'm putting together is an app that will pick up email orders from my Miva Merchant store, generate a mailing label, pick up the actual pdf files to be printed and send that all on to my fulfillment center where they will produce and ship the item to the customer. They would like everything in pdf format. Could you AppleScript Preview to create the pdf? Actually, if you only care about OS X, this will create a PDF for you: function stsMakePDF pSrcPath,pDestPath switch (the platform) case MacOS if isOSX() then set the cursor to watch put /System/Library/Printers/Libraries/convert into tConvertApp get shell(tConvertApp -f q(pSrcPath) -o q(pDestPath) -j application/pdf) if it = then return OK else return Error : it end if else return Error : stsMakePDF only works on Mac OS X. end if break default return Error : stsMakePDF only works on Mac OS X. break end switch end stsMakePDF function isOSX set the itemDel to . return (item 1 of the systemVersion =10) end isOSX function q what return quote what quote end q HTH, Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Export snapshot
Actually, if you only care about OS X, this will create a PDF for you: function stsMakePDF pSrcPath,pDestPath switch (the platform) case MacOS if isOSX() then set the cursor to watch put /System/Library/Printers/Libraries/convert into tConvertApp get shell(tConvertApp -f q(pSrcPath) -o q(pDestPath) -j application/pdf) if it = then return OK else return Error : it end if else return Error : stsMakePDF only works on Mac OS X. end if break default return Error : stsMakePDF only works on Mac OS X. break end switch end stsMakePDF function isOSX set the itemDel to . return (item 1 of the systemVersion =10) end isOSX function q what return quote what quote end q As usual Ken always coming up with the goods! I'm coming in late on the thread. What's the source file here? HTML? If so I think Chipp uses a command line HTML to PDF converter on windows which could fit into this function nicely ;-) Cheers -- Monte Goulding Sweat Technologies InstallGadget - How to create an installer in 10 seconds Download now from: http://www.sweattechnologies.com/InstallGadget ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Export snapshot
On 3/7/05 8:52 PM, Ken Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, if you only care about OS X, this will create a PDF for you: function stsMakePDF pSrcPath,pDestPath switch (the platform) case MacOS if isOSX() then set the cursor to watch put /System/Library/Printers/Libraries/convert into tConvertApp get shell(tConvertApp -f q(pSrcPath) -o q(pDestPath) -j application/pdf) if it = then return OK else return Error : it end if else return Error : stsMakePDF only works on Mac OS X. end if break default return Error : stsMakePDF only works on Mac OS X. break end switch end stsMakePDF function isOSX set the itemDel to . return (item 1 of the systemVersion =10) end isOSX function q what return quote what quote end q Man you guys are smart. To adapt a line from one of my favorite movies, You guys are so far above me, I feel like a rope on the Goodyear blimp. (What About Bob w/Bill Murray A good laugh if you're a little twisted. This did indeed make a pdf of my jpg. Another question-- is there a way to set the page size in my scenario? The pdf open into an 8.5x11. This pdf is going to be sent to a label printer (at my fulfillment center, so I don't know what it will do or if it's a concern.) Thanks Ken. Marty Knapp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Export snapshot
On 3/7/05 9:04 PM, Monte Goulding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm coming in late on the thread. What's the source file here? HTML? If so I think Chipp uses a command line HTML to PDF converter on windows which could fit into this function nicely ;-) Hey Monte, The source file is a jpeg (or could be any other file type that can be generated from within Rev). I need to make a mailing label, so currently I'm just dumping the info into a substack with a field sized to the required dimensions and exporting a snapshot. (This is what my fulfillment center wants). Marty Knapp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revCopyFile problems on OSX
On 3/7/05 8:41 PM, Terry Judd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can someone who's already 'been there' suggest the best solution? Well, I can't say it's the best solution, but it's working for me: on copyFile pFile1,pFile2 delete file pFile2 switch the platform case win32 revCopyFile pFile1,pFile2 if the result is not empty then answer(revCopyFile failed) break case MacOS put binFile: pFile1 into tFile1 put binFile: pFile2 into tFile2 put URL tFile1 into URL tFile2 if the result is not empty then answer(put URL failed) break default answer(platform the platform needs more coding) end switch end copyFile Thanks to the gurus who guided me when I had the same problem. -- Dick ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
