Re: [ANN][EN][FR] New Sophisticated Plugin from So Smart Software
Hi Mark, Thanks for the kind words :-) Thanks for the feedback too: comments and requests are very important and useful. At the moment, there is no option to get all the results in one fell swoop. I did not provide such a feature since searching in deeper mode can be a bit long: FAQ: 479 xml files Dictionary: 1497 xml files Topics: 17 xml files Recipes: 55 cards And one of my ergonomic goals was to *appear* much faster than the docs itself :-) Letting the user beginning to read the more relevant results (always at top) while the search goes on. On the other hand, there would be no technical problem to add a Search All menu item. So such an enhancement could appear in the next version ;-) Le 15 juil. 05 à 01:00, Mark Swindell a écrit : Eric, Very nice! Is there an option to get ALL the results in one fell swoop? (i.e. the FAQ, Dictionary, Topics, Cookbook all at once without having to choose each and re-search?) Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. So Smart Software For institutions, companies and associations Built-to-order applications: management, multimedia, internet, etc. Windows, Mac OS and Linux... With the French touch Free plugins and tutorials on my website Web sitehttp://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Phone33 (0)1 43 31 77 62 Mobile33 (0)6 20 74 50 86 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: videoClip does stop playing????
Hi Ban, By definition, all code you put after a close stack command can't be executed :-) So try to stop you movie *before* closing the stack. Le 15 juil. 05 à 00:28, Ban Nguyen a écrit : on mouseUp close this stack stop playing videoClip my movie end mouseUp The problem is: the stack is closed but the video still play (you can here it) Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. So Smart Software For institutions, companies and associations Built-to-order applications: management, multimedia, internet, etc. Windows, Mac OS and Linux... With the French touch Free plugins and tutorials on my website Web sitehttp://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Phone33 (0)1 43 31 77 62 Mobile33 (0)6 20 74 50 86 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: videoClip does stop playing????
Hi Ban, Hello, I have a video (.mov) I create a button (play) with this code: on mouseUp play videoClip my movie end mouseUp I also create another button (close) with this code: on mouseUp close this stack stop playing videoClip my movie end mouseUp The problem is: the stack is closed but the video still play (you can here it) I don't know any other command to stop the video. Please help. Thank you use reverse order and the correct syntax for you commands, that should do the trick :-) on mouseUp play stop vc close this stack end mouseUp vc = short for videoclip No need to specify the name of the clip, since only one clip can be playing at a time... Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: help with loading audio clips into a stack
Hi Scott and Ban, This is exactly what I need but the only thing is I don't want user to play songs from his/her hard drive. I want to import 9 songs in the stack and they can only play 9 songs, and I don't want them to copy these songs into there hard drive, because these songs are copyrighted. Well, what may not be news to you is that anything that is played over the computer's speakers can be captured and saved, regardless of whether or not the files reside on the drive. That being said, AFAIK you can't get good playback control without using a player object that references external audio files. Combine this with the previous comment that any audio delivered with the stack will be loaded into memory, potentially eating up a lot of space (are the songs full length, 3 to 5 minutes each?). If you deliver the songs with the stack, you might write them out to the temp directory before playing and then delete when done. Or, instead of including audio in the stack and and writing out to the drive, you might consider storing the audio on the Web and accessing the files with a player object via URLs (makes for a smaller stack). Again, not a foolproof system for copy protection but a little less accessible than placing on the drive. Trevor Devore or Klaus Major might know some more tricks here. Thanks for the flowers but there is no way (that I know) to use a player with internal fiels command except the above mentioned way of storing the files internally and spit them out into the temp directory or somewhere else... Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Development Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: App Browser Woes.....
Hi, Well whoever allowed this to go into a production product need their brains testing! Sorry but that's the plain truth of the matter. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot! At the VERY VERY VERY least it should be a Preference that is defaulted to off, and the caption of this pref should read Do you want to save a small amount of refresh time but totally confuse yourself and make RunRev look as if it has been programmed by idiots Sorry for this Rant, and in general RunRev is a really cool tool and I love using it, but I am really getting sick of stupid little IDE bugs/features that cause me lots of wasted time. Take for example this particular refresh problem, is there ANYONE on this list that would want this functionality? Who in their right mind would sacrifice an up to date list view for a split-seconds worth of refresh time? I was slighly upset when I thought it was a genuine bug that had slipped in, now I know it was done deliberately I am FUMING! How do I officially complain to RunRev about this? Eric, If you do work out a patch Stack I would be really grateful if you would send me a copy. All the Best Dave Hi Dave and Chris, To be precise, the problem came with Rev 2.5.1. (no problem with 2.5) In order to save time, runRev guys imagined to keep the current controls list into a cache and rebuild this list only when a control was deleted or added. So, you have just to open the script of the revApplicationOverview stack and search for the revControlList function and comment the following lines: if the number of lines in lControlCache[pCard] is tNumControls then return lControlCache[pCard] I have no time now but may be I shall find a couple of minutes to write a patch stack to morrow :-) Le 14 juil. 05 à 15:17, David Burgun a écrit : How come when I change something in my stack, like the layer number or the object name etc. It doesn't change in the App Browser Window? I am running RunRev 2.6.5 build 108 on Mac OS X Tiger 10.4.2. Does anyone else have this problem?? Copy to runRev support. Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. So Smart Software For institutions, companies and associations Built-to-order applications: management, multimedia, internet, etc. Windows, Mac OS and Linux... With the French touch Free plugins and tutorials on my website Web sitehttp://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Phone33 (0)1 43 31 77 62 Mobile33 (0)6 20 74 50 86 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: App Browser Woes.....
Hi Dave, I don't want to blame runRev guys too rudely: they got a false good idea :-) As a programmer, I have to confess that it can happen to me too... But, on the other hand, as a user of a commercial product named Revolution, I expect more serious testing before any release... As Jim pointed it, my Objects Picker plugin works pretty well and, as for layers management provides arrows buttons to reorganise objects layers in a very convenient graphical way. You can even change multiple objects layers (non contiguous if you wish it) in one fell swoop and the list is of course immediately updated :-) Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. Le 15 juil. 05 à 09:28, David Burgun a écrit : Hi, Well whoever allowed this to go into a production product need their brains testing! Sorry but that's the plain truth of the matter. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot! At the VERY VERY VERY least it should be a Preference that is defaulted to off, and the caption of this pref should read Do you want to save a small amount of refresh time but totally confuse yourself and make RunRev look as if it has been programmed by idiots Sorry for this Rant, and in general RunRev is a really cool tool and I love using it, but I am really getting sick of stupid little IDE bugs/features that cause me lots of wasted time. Take for example this particular refresh problem, is there ANYONE on this list that would want this functionality? Who in their right mind would sacrifice an up to date list view for a split-seconds worth of refresh time? I was slighly upset when I thought it was a genuine bug that had slipped in, now I know it was done deliberately I am FUMING! How do I officially complain to RunRev about this? Eric, If you do work out a patch Stack I would be really grateful if you would send me a copy. All the Best Dave Hi Dave and Chris, To be precise, the problem came with Rev 2.5.1. (no problem with 2.5) In order to save time, runRev guys imagined to keep the current controls list into a cache and rebuild this list only when a control was deleted or added. So, you have just to open the script of the revApplicationOverview stack and search for the revControlList function and comment the following lines: if the number of lines in lControlCache[pCard] is tNumControls then return lControlCache[pCard] I have no time now but may be I shall find a couple of minutes to write a patch stack to morrow :-) Le 14 juil. 05 à 15:17, David Burgun a écrit : How come when I change something in my stack, like the layer number or the object name etc. It doesn't change in the App Browser Window? I am running RunRev 2.6.5 build 108 on Mac OS X Tiger 10.4.2. Does anyone else have this problem?? Copy to runRev support. Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. So Smart Software For institutions, companies and associations Built-to-order applications: management, multimedia, internet, etc. Windows, Mac OS and Linux... With the French touch Free plugins and tutorials on my website Web sitehttp://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Phone33 (0)1 43 31 77 62 Mobile33 (0)6 20 74 50 86 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: App Browser Woes.....
Hi Eric, Yes, I agree, I don't want to blame the programmers too much either, but their really should be more control on what goes into a Production piece of software that is being used to generate other programs.More testing, but also someone that makes a decision of what goes in and what does not. It should NOT be left to a programmer to make this decision. Usually they are too focused on the problem in hand and do not see the big picture or the terrible chaos that can be caused by their Quick-Fixes. As a programmer I have been guilty of this in the past. Thankfully we had a good QA and Release manager that threw my efforts out so as not to inflict my good intentions of the unsuspecting public! Programmers should remember the old saying - The Road to Hell is Paved with Good Intentions. Where can I get your object picker from? I will download it, I would rather do that then patch RunRev. And Best Regards to you from a Very Hot and Sunny London! Glad I got up early so I can get off early - TGIF! And a Great Weekend to all RunRev'ers wherever you may be! Dave Hi Dave, I don't want to blame runRev guys too rudely: they got a false good idea :-) As a programmer, I have to confess that it can happen to me too... But, on the other hand, as a user of a commercial product named Revolution, I expect more serious testing before any release... As Jim pointed it, my Objects Picker plugin works pretty well and, as for layers management provides arrows buttons to reorganise objects layers in a very convenient graphical way. You can even change multiple objects layers (non contiguous if you wish it) in one fell swoop and the list is of course immediately updated :-) Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. Le 15 juil. 05 à 09:28, David Burgun a écrit : Hi, Well whoever allowed this to go into a production product need their brains testing! Sorry but that's the plain truth of the matter. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot! At the VERY VERY VERY least it should be a Preference that is defaulted to off, and the caption of this pref should read Do you want to save a small amount of refresh time but totally confuse yourself and make RunRev look as if it has been programmed by idiots Sorry for this Rant, and in general RunRev is a really cool tool and I love using it, but I am really getting sick of stupid little IDE bugs/features that cause me lots of wasted time. Take for example this particular refresh problem, is there ANYONE on this list that would want this functionality? Who in their right mind would sacrifice an up to date list view for a split-seconds worth of refresh time? I was slighly upset when I thought it was a genuine bug that had slipped in, now I know it was done deliberately I am FUMING! How do I officially complain to RunRev about this? Eric, If you do work out a patch Stack I would be really grateful if you would send me a copy. All the Best Dave Hi Dave and Chris, To be precise, the problem came with Rev 2.5.1. (no problem with 2.5) In order to save time, runRev guys imagined to keep the current controls list into a cache and rebuild this list only when a control was deleted or added. So, you have just to open the script of the revApplicationOverview stack and search for the revControlList function and comment the following lines: if the number of lines in lControlCache[pCard] is tNumControls then return lControlCache[pCard] I have no time now but may be I shall find a couple of minutes to write a patch stack to morrow :-) Le 14 juil. 05 à 15:17, David Burgun a écrit : How come when I change something in my stack, like the layer number or the object name etc. It doesn't change in the App Browser Window? I am running RunRev 2.6.5 build 108 on Mac OS X Tiger 10.4.2. Does anyone else have this problem?? Copy to runRev support. Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. So Smart Software For institutions, companies and associations Built-to-order applications: management, multimedia, internet, etc. Windows, Mac OS and Linux... With the French touch Free plugins and tutorials on my website Web sitehttp://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Phone33 (0)1 43 31 77 62 Mobile33 (0)6 20 74 50 86 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution Bsd unix engine doesn't start
Le Jeudi 14 juillet 2005 à 15:57 -0300, Andre Garzia a écrit : On Jul 14, 2005, at 3:43 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 7/14/05 9:40 AM, Damien Girard wrote: Hi all, I am under FreeBSD 5.4, so I wan't to see if Runrev work under Bsd, I am going to the Runtime Revolution website, I download the Bsd engine (2.2.1) and Revolution 2.6 (linux tgz). I uncompress all files, I open a terminal emulator, and I done that : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ./Bsd And nothing else is done, Runrev doesn't start. Runrev bug ? I have also tryed with Revolution.x86 (FreeBSD have Linux emulation binaries), and I have got this error : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ./revolution.x86 ./revolution.x86: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6: ELF file OS ABI invalid This happens with CGIs too in Apache if certain libraries are not installed. Even though this library isn't used much, Revolution requires it to be there. Install it and you should be fine. if your trouble is with libGDK, there's a workaround setting a enviroment variable. If it is about some other lib, then I don't have a clue... Andre I haven't got trouble with libGDK because the GTK+ Look and feel have been included in Revolution 2.5 (not 2.2.1) And what is these library that runrev require ? Damien ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[ANN] Patch Stack for App Browser 2.5.1 and 2.6
Hi all, I you have followed the thread App Browser Woes. on this list, you know the facts: How come when I change something in my stack, like the layer number or the object name etc. It doesn't change in the App Browser Window? And my answer: To be precise, the problem came in with Rev 2.5.1. (no problem with prior versions) In order to save time, runRev guys imagined to keep the current controls list into a cache (good idea) and refresh this list only when a control is deleted or added (very bad idea). Here is a patch stack to correct the devastating side effects ;-) Just run the line below in the message box: go url http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/downloads/App%20Browser% 20Patch.rev In topic and as a reminder, you will find below a short specification of my Objects Picker plugin you can download from my website: Objects Picker makes it possible to edit properties and scripts in one click. It also offers dozens of powerful functions like the graphical reorganization of layers or the moving of objects, copying and pasting of properties or styles, the incremental denomination of objects, the management of profiles, and improved script edition, the bookmarking of objects as well as other functions... Objects Picker fits in well with Revolution IDE: it uses objects lists as in Rev Application Browser and uses the same shortcuts you specified for it as well it takes care of Revolution UI Elements In Lists preference. In a word, Objects Picker uses contextual menus to perform varied (and what are sometimes boring :-) actions, all at once, with just one mouse-click, on multiple objects: features are derived directly from programming experience and will help you save a lot of time when you are developing. Note that this heavy plugin (850 KB zip archive, 1.9 MB on disk) is the only one which is not free but you will get yours money's worth (€ 12 :-) Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. So Smart Software For institutions, companies and associations Built-to-order applications: management, multimedia, internet, etc. Windows, Mac OS and Linux... With the French touch Free plugins and tutorials on my website Web sitehttp://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Phone33 (0)1 43 31 77 62 Mobile33 (0)6 20 74 50 86 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
funtions on windows
My apology for the typos of yesterday message . Still upon further investigation we found that the following function: - function plural count, textw if count 1 then put s after textw if count = 0 then put no into count return count textw end plural --- works perfectly on Rev 2.6 on Mac G4 with OSX 10.3.9. However it does not work on Rev. 2.6 on Windows XP ( when called : Plural ( 3, Book) it returns ( 3 s) only again is this a bug on the XP version ?! any idea ? Muaadh Salih [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- All the best Muaadh Salih SOAS Department of Near Middle Eastern Studies Tel . +44 (0)2078984354 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: funtions on windows
Hi Muaadh, No time to test on Win XP but just a thought: avoid unnecessary spaces in your formulations: You write Plural ( 3, Book). Try Plural (3,Book) Le 15 juil. 05 à 12:23, Muaadh salih a écrit : My apology for the typos of yesterday message . Still upon further investigation we found that the following function: - function plural count, textw if count 1 then put s after textw if count = 0 then put no into count return count textw end plural --- works perfectly on Rev 2.6 on Mac G4 with OSX 10.3.9. However it does not work on Rev. 2.6 on Windows XP ( when called : Plural ( 3, Book) it returns ( 3 s) only again is this a bug on the XP version ?! Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. So Smart Software For institutions, companies and associations Built-to-order applications: management, multimedia, internet, etc. Windows, Mac OS and Linux... With the French touch Free plugins and tutorials on my website Web sitehttp://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Phone33 (0)1 43 31 77 62 Mobile33 (0)6 20 74 50 86 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: funtions on windows
Muaadh salih wrote: My apology for the typos of yesterday message . Still upon further investigation we found that the following function: - function plural count, textw if count 1 then put s after textw if count = 0 then put no into count return count textw end plural --- works perfectly on Rev 2.6 on Mac G4 with OSX 10.3.9. However it does not work on Rev. 2.6 on Windows XP ( when called : Plural ( 3, Book) it returns ( 3 s) only again is this a bug on the XP version ?! I created a new Mainstack, created a button, copied the above lines from your email, pasted them into the button script - and it works just fine. 2.6 on Win XP If it were me, I'd add put param(1) param(2) cr after msg in as the first line of the function put textw cr after msg immediately before and immediately after the line that should change textw and then see what I learn. (or, as I said off-list, send me a copy of the stack - but be sure to send it from the Windows machine in case there was some problem copying the script from the Mac to the PC - line endings etc.). -- Alex Tweedly http://www.tweedly.net -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.14/48 - Release Date: 13/07/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Quartam Reports, day late, dime short
Brian: I know nothing about this situation, other than what I read in the past day or two, but it seems to me that, tone aside, some of what Paul is saying IS professional. He explained to Jan specifically what his customers needed, and hoped that Jan had listened. As to trite remarks about ... missed deadlines, I'm not so sure that such remarks, if they're true, are trite. Explaining to the rest of us that a particular developer may not meet announced deadlines, while depressing, is actually useful to professional programmers who need to plan their schedules carefully. I know nothing about Jan or the product, but sometimes the knee jerk reaction on this list is if you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything. I'm not sure that is really in anyone's best interest. That said, I too hope that this product does well. Jon Brian Yennie wrote: Paul, Saying you don't mean to be disrespectful doesn't make it so. Flaming Jan repeatedly on-list immediately after a product release is quite disrespectful. Here's a suggestion. Make a feature request. Buy a copy of Quartam to support development. See if lots of other Rev users also want the feature. Watch it get implemented. Please be finished with the trite remarks about frosting on cakes, missed deadlines and your individual needs, and try a professional approach. Otherwise you are more than likely just going to be tuned out. - Brian Jan, I don't mean to be disrespectful but you have delivered the frosting without the cake. Quartam Reports does a lot of things we don't need: - data fields using everyday Transcript expressions - data groups with separate header and footer - flexible formatting options - aggregate functions without a line of code - support for printing conditions, color and inks - simplified printing commands for stacks, database cursors and automated queries - an advanced callback architecture that lets you combine data from multiple sources and does not deliver what we do need: - the ability to take information stored in a Revolution stack and print it in standard business format. Did anyone actually ask for the Quartam feature set? Did anyone beta test QR? You always tend to dismiss 9 to 5 Reports, but the fact is they got it right. Reports with HyperCard is a powerful business tool. That's why I invested the time in showing it to you, explaining what it meant to my business users, urging you to incorporate its basic functionality. We have all waited a long time for a Revolution solution. Based on missed deadlines to date, I am not optimistic about QR v 1.1 shipping in any sort of timely manner ;-) I am extremely disappointed. Paul Looney PS Are you saying definitively that v 1.1, if it ever ships, WILL support scrolling fields - and be a free upgrade? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: funtions on windows
I've just tried you script on Win XP Pro Rev 2.6. It returns the correct answer. Plural (3, Book) returns: 3 Books. Plural (0, Book) returns: no Books. Plural (1, Book) returns: 1 Book Doesn't seem like a bug in Win XP Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] function plural count, textw if count 1 then put s after textw if count = 0 then put no into count return count textw end plural --- works perfectly on Rev 2.6 on Mac G4 with OSX 10.3.9. However it does not work on Rev. 2.6 on Windows XP ( when called : Plural ( 3, Book) it returns ( 3 s) only again is this a bug on the XP version ?! any idea ? Muaadh Salih [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- All the best Muaadh Salih SOAS Department of Near Middle Eastern Studies Tel . +44 (0)2078984354 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.15/49 - Release Date: 14/07/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Third party Patch Manager
Anyone out there have a *Third party patch manager stack?* By this I mean, I've applied some patches provided by Chipp and Eric and maybe others. I forget exactly, and this is my point. For example, I'm still running 2.51 and *trying* to get to 2.6. I say trying, because my 2.51 key didn't unlock 2.6 and I've requested another key, but haven't gotten it yet - but that's another story. The point is, I know that 2.6 will require some of the same patches applied as 2.51. However, it may not need others, and I may not remember exactly what patches I applied prior, that need to be applied to the newer version (until, I suppose, a problem occurs and I remember I have a patch for that, although I probably won't remember who wrote it, and where I got it from). It would be nice, if when I apply a patch, I could drag it to a Patch Manager stack that, when I upgrade to newer versions, would show all previously applied patches with checkboxes, and I could choose to apply the patch or not. Maybe a date of when the patch was applied (dragged into the manager), so I can remember what version I applied the patch to. Otherwise, I can see myself hesitating to upgrade and cut over to a newer *official* version of Rev. A MUCH BETTER alternative (hint, hint) to this would be for Rev, itself, to maintain a Third Party Patches web page for developers, where developers could post their patches (instead of their individual WebPages) and Rev could edit the descriptions and categorize them by version number, as being applicable to a version. For example the recent app browser fix from Eric might be classified as: Applies to versions 2.51 to 2.6xx ONLY. Prior versions do not require this patch, and as of version 2.6yy, it's no longer applicable, as we took the silly if...then statement out ourselves. (OK, put a period after the word *applicable*). This would take some of the *fear* out of upgrading and in the long run make Rev more money... Jim ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Third party Patch Manager
Hi Jim, Your idea is a good idea, but is it to us to make for free Rev job that they asked us to pay for? ;-) As for the patches I write: . They test the running version in order to tell if the patch is applicable. . They test if the patch has been already applied or not. . They save the current stack as stack name old in order to let the user reverse the process if needed. . They apply the patch only when all conditions have been filled. Can I do more? Finally, a *Third party patch manager* makes me feel weird... Le 15 juil. 05 à 14:30, Jim Bufalini a écrit : Anyone out there have a *Third party patch manager stack?* By this I mean, I've applied some patches provided by Chipp and Eric and maybe others. I forget exactly, and this is my point. For example, I'm still running 2.51 and *trying* to get to 2.6. I say trying, because my 2.51 key didn't unlock 2.6 and I've requested another key, but haven't gotten it yet - but that's another story. The point is, I know that 2.6 will require some of the same patches applied as 2.51. However, it may not need others, and I may not remember exactly what patches I applied prior, that need to be applied to the newer version (until, I suppose, a problem occurs and I remember I have a patch for that, although I probably won't remember who wrote it, and where I got it from). It would be nice, if when I apply a patch, I could drag it to a Patch Manager stack that, when I upgrade to newer versions, would show all previously applied patches with checkboxes, and I could choose to apply the patch or not. Maybe a date of when the patch was applied (dragged into the manager), so I can remember what version I applied the patch to. Otherwise, I can see myself hesitating to upgrade and cut over to a newer *official* version of Rev. A MUCH BETTER alternative (hint, hint) to this would be for Rev, itself, to maintain a Third Party Patches web page for developers, where developers could post their patches (instead of their individual WebPages) and Rev could edit the descriptions and categorize them by version number, as being applicable to a version. For example the recent app browser fix from Eric might be classified as: Applies to versions 2.51 to 2.6xx ONLY. Prior versions do not require this patch, and as of version 2.6yy, it's no longer applicable, as we took the silly if...then statement out ourselves. (OK, put a period after the word *applicable*). This would take some of the *fear* out of upgrading and in the long run make Rev more money... Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. So Smart Software For institutions, companies and associations Built-to-order applications: management, multimedia, internet, etc. Windows, Mac OS and Linux... With the French touch Free plugins and tutorials on my website Web sitehttp://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Phone33 (0)1 43 31 77 62 Mobile33 (0)6 20 74 50 86 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Quartam Reports, day late, dime short
Hi Jan... If you need a script for properly printing a scrolling field, I have such a thing. I'd be happy to share it with you, if it would help you. It probably would not be too difficult to incorporate into your larger printing scripts. Cheers, Jonathan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jan Schenkel Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 1:39 AM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Quartam Reports, day late, dime short --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jan, I don't mean to be disrespectful but you have delivered the frosting without the cake. Quartam Reports does a lot of things we don't need: - data fields using everyday Transcript expressions - data groups with separate header and footer - flexible formatting options - aggregate functions without a line of code - support for printing conditions, color and inks - simplified printing commands for stacks, database cursors and automated queries - an advanced callback architecture that lets you combine data from multiple sources and does not deliver what we do need: - the ability to take information stored in a Revolution stack and print it in standard business format. Did anyone actually ask for the Quartam feature set? Did anyone beta test QR? You always tend to dismiss 9 to 5 Reports, but the fact is they got it right. Reports with HyperCard is a powerful business tool. That's why I invested the time in showing it to you, explaining what it meant to my business users, urging you to incorporate its basic functionality. We have all waited a long time for a Revolution solution. Based on missed deadlines to date, I am not optimistic about QR v 1.1 shipping in any sort of timely manner ;-) I am extremely disappointed. Paul Looney PS Are you saying definitively that v 1.1, if it ever ships, WILL support scrolling fields - and be a free upgrade? Hi Paul, As stated in my previous email, version 1.0, when it ships, WILL support scrolling fields - and be a free upgrade. I meant no disrespect towards 9-to-5 Reports: it is a tremendous tool that made HyperCard a viable solution for building business applications. But there are more ways to store data than in stacks. There are databases, xml-files and all the other places that I mentioned before. I felt these were important itms to integrate with. Incidentally, you can easily take data from a stack and print it in a report. A simplified command for this allows you to script a printing button: -- qrtReports_PrintReportForStack \ layout filepath,stack name,preview flag -- And then the report printing library will do the heavy lifting by itself, going through your stack one card at a time, and filling the report. An optional fourth parameter lets you specify a range: all (default), marked, unmarked or an MS-Word style range (think 1-7,9,14 to print the data on cards 1 through 7, card 9 and card 14) Quartam Reports was in public beta from the end of April, and while I primarily looked at what I expected from a report tool, I did ask for feedback from public and private beta testers. They have provided me with ideas for years to come. But while scrolling fields are high on every wish list, all you need to print reports is there, and more. I have most certainly not forgotten the great demo you showed me at MacWorld last year. But I can't help but be reminded of the paradox of software development: users want it shipped yesterday, packing features they haven't even thought they needed tomorrow, while never needing an upgrade. Now there's a challenge for a developer -- maybe I should get Jacque to send me a beta of her time warp stacks ;-) Best regards, Jan Schenkel. Quartam - Tools for Revolution http://www.quartam.com = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Quartam Reports, day late, dime short
On Jul 15 2005, at 13:09, Jon wrote: I know nothing about Jan or the product, but sometimes the knee jerk reaction on this list is if you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything. I'm not sure that is really in anyone's best interest. Hi Jon I think that people object not to the content of the raised comments, but to the tone of them (at least that was my reaction). Simply saying Why didn't you incorporate feature... instead of I demand a feature... goes a long way towards a nice and cool atmosphere on a list. greetings Björnke -- http://contest.wecode.org Now running: the first ChatRev coding contest! sponsors: Altuit Andre Garzia Fourth World Karl Becker Runtime Revolution TidBITS in cooperation with eHUG ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Third party Patch Manager
Eric, The idea is: You upload your patch to some Rev WebPage, ,just as you would upload it to your own Website or to RevOnline, or to your own user space. Initially, it shows up as *Not reviewed, use at your own risk.* List users (i.e. developers - please don't limit to some financial consideration - as in, did you buy our latest update pack, with such and such included?), at that point, can choose to download the patch, and apply it, just as they do now. The only difference is, when someone at Runrev gets around to it, they look at your patch and add commentary. The advantage is, all the Third Party patches are in *one* place! And, it gives Rev the convenience of reviewing all Third Party Patches in *one* place. And, it gives developers *one* place to go to find all the Third Party patches and determine what they need to *apply* to do upgrade to a new version. Fear of loss is a major motivating factor. If someone fears they may loose something, even minor, by upgrading, they won't do it. You don't need to *do more.* It's actually a *do less,* as I see that many messages on the list server are to the effect of, *Where can I find...?* Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eric Chatonet Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 3:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Third party Patch Manager Hi Jim, Your idea is a good idea, but is it to us to make for free Rev job that they asked us to pay for? ;-) As for the patches I write: . They test the running version in order to tell if the patch is applicable. . They test if the patch has been already applied or not. . They save the current stack as stack name old in order to let the user reverse the process if needed. . They apply the patch only when all conditions have been filled. Can I do more? Finally, a *Third party patch manager* makes me feel weird... Le 15 juil. 05 à 14:30, Jim Bufalini a écrit : Anyone out there have a *Third party patch manager stack?* By this I mean, I've applied some patches provided by Chipp and Eric and maybe others. I forget exactly, and this is my point. For example, I'm still running 2.51 and *trying* to get to 2.6. I say trying, because my 2.51 key didn't unlock 2.6 and I've requested another key, but haven't gotten it yet - but that's another story. The point is, I know that 2.6 will require some of the same patches applied as 2.51. However, it may not need others, and I may not remember exactly what patches I applied prior, that need to be applied to the newer version (until, I suppose, a problem occurs and I remember I have a patch for that, although I probably won't remember who wrote it, and where I got it from). It would be nice, if when I apply a patch, I could drag it to a Patch Manager stack that, when I upgrade to newer versions, would show all previously applied patches with checkboxes, and I could choose to apply the patch or not. Maybe a date of when the patch was applied (dragged into the manager), so I can remember what version I applied the patch to. Otherwise, I can see myself hesitating to upgrade and cut over to a newer *official* version of Rev. A MUCH BETTER alternative (hint, hint) to this would be for Rev, itself, to maintain a Third Party Patches web page for developers, where developers could post their patches (instead of their individual WebPages) and Rev could edit the descriptions and categorize them by version number, as being applicable to a version. For example the recent app browser fix from Eric might be classified as: Applies to versions 2.51 to 2.6xx ONLY. Prior versions do not require this patch, and as of version 2.6yy, it's no longer applicable, as we took the silly if...then statement out ourselves. (OK, put a period after the word *applicable*). This would take some of the *fear* out of upgrading and in the long run make Rev more money... Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. So Smart Software For institutions, companies and associations Built-to-order applications: management, multimedia, internet, etc. Windows, Mac OS and Linux... With the French touch Free plugins and tutorials on my website Web sitehttp://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Phone33 (0)1 43 31 77 62 Mobile33 (0)6 20 74 50 86 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage
Re: [ANN][EN][FR] New Sophisticated Plugin from So Smart Software
Eric, Perhaps a check mark for each resource to search with a search all selected resources button would solve both problems. Then the user can decide if he want to do a long search and go get some coffee, or just search all the easy places now. Dennis On Jul 15, 2005, at 2:14 AM, Eric Chatonet wrote: Hi Mark, Thanks for the kind words :-) Thanks for the feedback too: comments and requests are very important and useful. At the moment, there is no option to get all the results in one fell swoop. I did not provide such a feature since searching in deeper mode can be a bit long: FAQ: 479 xml files Dictionary: 1497 xml files Topics: 17 xml files Recipes: 55 cards And one of my ergonomic goals was to *appear* much faster than the docs itself :-) Letting the user beginning to read the more relevant results (always at top) while the search goes on. On the other hand, there would be no technical problem to add a Search All menu item. So such an enhancement could appear in the next version ;-) Le 15 juil. 05 à 01:00, Mark Swindell a écrit : Eric, Very nice! Is there an option to get ALL the results in one fell swoop? (i.e. the FAQ, Dictionary, Topics, Cookbook all at once without having to choose each and re-search?) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN][EN][FR] New Sophisticated Plugin from So Smart Software
Hi Dennis, Good idea. Thanks. We have to wait for version 1.1 ;-) I take the opportunity to tell how much are important all ideas and feedback from advanced users or beginners too. I don't make these tools for me... So all comments which can help me to improve the job are welcome. Nevertheless don't be too rude ;-) Le 15 juil. 05 à 16:22, Dennis Brown a écrit : Perhaps a check mark for each resource to search with a search all selected resources button would solve both problems. Then the user can decide if he want to do a long search and go get some coffee, or just search all the easy places now. Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. So Smart Software For institutions, companies and associations Built-to-order applications: management, multimedia, internet, etc. Windows, Mac OS and Linux... With the French touch Free plugins and tutorials on my website Web sitehttp://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Phone33 (0)1 43 31 77 62 Mobile33 (0)6 20 74 50 86 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Snap To
Hi revvers! Im wondering if anyone has a snap-to point script or algorithm they might want to share. Doesn't need to be a script but i would prefer a proven-working model or concept. I made a few test but none seem to work as i would like to... It's meant for window resizing and moving... cheers Xavier ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Third party Patch Manager
Hi again Jim, I think the users and not the patches providers may ask runRev in order to obtain such a thing :-) I think it would be useful for the community. I think it would be courageous from runRev to accept it. Le 15 juil. 05 à 16:17, Jim Bufalini a écrit : The idea is: You upload your patch to some Rev WebPage, ,just as you would upload it to your own Website or to RevOnline, or to your own user space. Initially, it shows up as *Not reviewed, use at your own risk.* List users (i.e. developers - please don't limit to some financial consideration - as in, did you buy our latest update pack, with such and such included?), at that point, can choose to download the patch, and apply it, just as they do now. The only difference is, when someone at Runrev gets around to it, they look at your patch and add commentary. The advantage is, all the Third Party patches are in *one* place! And, it gives Rev the convenience of reviewing all Third Party Patches in *one* place. And, it gives developers *one* place to go to find all the Third Party patches and determine what they need to *apply* to do upgrade to a new version. Fear of loss is a major motivating factor. If someone fears they may loose something, even minor, by upgrading, they won't do it. You don't need to *do more.* It's actually a *do less,* as I see that many messages on the list server are to the effect of, *Where can I find...?* Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. So Smart Software For institutions, companies and associations Built-to-order applications: management, multimedia, internet, etc. Windows, Mac OS and Linux... With the French touch Free plugins and tutorials on my website Web sitehttp://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Phone33 (0)1 43 31 77 62 Mobile33 (0)6 20 74 50 86 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: arcadeEngine
Malte, Congratulations on arcadeEngine. Looks like lots of fun--and a lot of work. Does it included changes in the engine specific to your routines? If so, are they specific to Dreamcard, or will they be available in future releases of Studio and Enterprise? Jim ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Third party Patch Manager
Eric Chatonet wrote: Hi again Jim, I think the users and not the patches providers may ask runRev in order to obtain such a thing :-) I think it would be useful for the community. I think it would be courageous from runRev to accept it. If I was RunRev, I wouldn't be that courageous :-) And, to be honest, I'd rather that RunRev kept their efforts for the things that we, the community, can't do . and organizing a list of known patches is something we can do. I think we could satisfy the needs with a scheme like the following : Someone hosts a site that collects a list of known patches. (I'll happily volunteer to do this, it's about time I used some of my web space for something useful - though in some ways it would be better if it were hosted by one of the already well-known sites like Ken or Richard (or revJournal ??)) The list consists of, for each patch, author, date, URL for the patch, description, version it was written for, Bugzilla number, fixed-in version Note the most important part of that is the Bugzilla number - either of a bug report or enhancement request. This ensures that RunRev are aware of the need (desire) for a change, and provides a reliable mechanism to verify whether the feature (or fix) has been incorporated into a later release. The fixed-in version can be filled in later, based on the changes in the BZ database when a new release comes out. The list of patches could be accessed via web browser, or via a small stack (again, I'll write this if there is interest but I won't be doing that until mid-August onwards). The stack would pick up any updates from the URL, allow the user to mark which patches she has applied to which version on which machines, etc. So at any time you could go run this stack, and determine if there are patches you'll need to apply to a new version, or whether there are new patches. The quality of the patches would be entirely up to the author of any patch - no judgment to be applied by the list-holder. The patches remain on the author's own web-site - and hence can be withdrawn, updated, or otherwise changed. Optionally, they could also be uploaded to the patch-list site, e.g. if the author didn't have web space available. -- Alex Tweedly http://www.tweedly.net -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.14/48 - Release Date: 13/07/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Third party Patch Manager
Hi Alex, Sounds good. On the other hand, you are really mature to join the revInterop (Rev Interoperability) project :-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/revInterop Le 15 juil. 05 à 17:20, Alex Tweedly a écrit : Eric Chatonet wrote: Hi again Jim, I think the users and not the patches providers may ask runRev in order to obtain such a thing :-) I think it would be useful for the community. I think it would be courageous from runRev to accept it. If I was RunRev, I wouldn't be that courageous :-) And, to be honest, I'd rather that RunRev kept their efforts for the things that we, the community, can't do . and organizing a list of known patches is something we can do. I think we could satisfy the needs with a scheme like the following : Someone hosts a site that collects a list of known patches. (I'll happily volunteer to do this, it's about time I used some of my web space for something useful - though in some ways it would be better if it were hosted by one of the already well-known sites like Ken or Richard (or revJournal ??)) The list consists of, for each patch, author, date, URL for the patch, description, version it was written for, Bugzilla number, fixed-in version Note the most important part of that is the Bugzilla number - either of a bug report or enhancement request. This ensures that RunRev are aware of the need (desire) for a change, and provides a reliable mechanism to verify whether the feature (or fix) has been incorporated into a later release. The fixed-in version can be filled in later, based on the changes in the BZ database when a new release comes out. The list of patches could be accessed via web browser, or via a small stack (again, I'll write this if there is interest but I won't be doing that until mid-August onwards). The stack would pick up any updates from the URL, allow the user to mark which patches she has applied to which version on which machines, etc. So at any time you could go run this stack, and determine if there are patches you'll need to apply to a new version, or whether there are new patches. The quality of the patches would be entirely up to the author of any patch - no judgment to be applied by the list-holder. The patches remain on the author's own web-site - and hence can be withdrawn, updated, or otherwise changed. Optionally, they could also be uploaded to the patch-list site, e.g. if the author didn't have web space available. Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. So Smart Software For institutions, companies and associations Built-to-order applications: management, multimedia, internet, etc. Windows, Mac OS and Linux... With the French touch Free plugins and tutorials on my website Web sitehttp://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Phone33 (0)1 43 31 77 62 Mobile33 (0)6 20 74 50 86 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Third party Patch Manager
Alex, Very good idea, and well put! Where did you get that brain of yours? Do you have a URL where I can download one like it? Perhaps I could just download a patch for mine :^) Dennis On Jul 15, 2005, at 11:20 AM, Alex Tweedly wrote: I think we could satisfy the needs with a scheme like the following : Someone hosts a site that collects a list of known patches. (I'll happily volunteer to do this, it's about time I used some of my web space for something useful - though in some ways it would be better if it were hosted by one of the already well-known sites like Ken or Richard (or revJournal ??)) The list consists of, for each patch, author, date, URL for the patch, description, version it was written for, Bugzilla number, fixed-in version Note the most important part of that is the Bugzilla number - either of a bug report or enhancement request. This ensures that RunRev are aware of the need (desire) for a change, and provides a reliable mechanism to verify whether the feature (or fix) has been incorporated into a later release. The fixed-in version can be filled in later, based on the changes in the BZ database when a new release comes out. The list of patches could be accessed via web browser, or via a small stack (again, I'll write this if there is interest but I won't be doing that until mid-August onwards). The stack would pick up any updates from the URL, allow the user to mark which patches she has applied to which version on which machines, etc. So at any time you could go run this stack, and determine if there are patches you'll need to apply to a new version, or whether there are new patches. The quality of the patches would be entirely up to the author of any patch - no judgment to be applied by the list-holder. The patches remain on the author's own web-site - and hence can be withdrawn, updated, or otherwise changed. Optionally, they could also be uploaded to the patch-list site, e.g. if the author didn't have web space available. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Patch Stack for App Browser 2.5.1 and 2.6
Eric, Have you posted this problem as a bug fix or feature request on Bugzilla? Devin On Jul 15, 2005, at 4:06 AM, Eric Chatonet wrote: Hi all, I you have followed the thread App Browser Woes. on this list, you know the facts: How come when I change something in my stack, like the layer number or the object name etc. It doesn't change in the App Browser Window? And my answer: To be precise, the problem came in with Rev 2.5.1. (no problem with prior versions) In order to save time, runRev guys imagined to keep the current controls list into a cache (good idea) and refresh this list only when a control is deleted or added (very bad idea). Here is a patch stack to correct the devastating side effects ;-) Just run the line below in the message box: go url http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/downloads/App%20Browser% 20Patch.rev In topic and as a reminder, you will find below a short specification of my Objects Picker plugin you can download from my website: Objects Picker makes it possible to edit properties and scripts in one click. It also offers dozens of powerful functions like the graphical reorganization of layers or the moving of objects, copying and pasting of properties or styles, the incremental denomination of objects, the management of profiles, and improved script edition, the bookmarking of objects as well as other functions... Objects Picker fits in well with Revolution IDE: it uses objects lists as in Rev Application Browser and uses the same shortcuts you specified for it as well it takes care of Revolution UI Elements In Lists preference. In a word, Objects Picker uses contextual menus to perform varied (and what are sometimes boring :-) actions, all at once, with just one mouse-click, on multiple objects: features are derived directly from programming experience and will help you save a lot of time when you are developing. Note that this heavy plugin (850 KB zip archive, 1.9 MB on disk) is the only one which is not free but you will get yours money's worth (€ 12 :-) Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN][EN][FR] New Sophisticated Plugin from So Smart
Mark Swindell [EMAIL PROTECTED] (14 Jul ) wrote: Eric, Very nice! Is there an option to get ALL the results in one fell swoop? (i.e. the FAQ, Dictionary, Topics, Cookbook all at once without having to choose each and re-search?) Mark Eric Chatonet wrote: (snip) I did not provide such a feature since searching in deeper mode can be a bit long: FAQ: 479 xml files Dictionary: 1497 xml files Topics: 17 xml files Recipes: 55 cards And one of my ergonomic goals was to *appear* much faster than the docs itself Letting the user beginning to read the more relevant results (always at top) while the search goes on. Dennis Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jul 15) wrote: Perhaps a check mark for each resource to search with a search all selected resources button would solve both problems. Then the user can decide if he want to do a long search and go get some coffee, or just search all the easy places now. Dennis and Eric Chatonet [EMAIL PROTECTED] (July 15) wrote: Hi Dennis, Good idea. Thanks. We have to wait for version 1.1 I take the opportunity to tell how much are important all ideas and feedback from advanced users or beginners too. I don't make these tools for me... So all comments which can help me to improve the job are welcome. Nevertheless don't be too rude. Hi Eric. I appreciate your open-mindedness and your valuable contributions to the Rev community. Hope I am not too rude when I direct your attention to my SearchDocs stack. This documentation search stack indeed allows simultaneous searches (as an option) of Dictionary, Faqs, and Topics - the Cookbook is not included. Search time through the about 2000 XML-files takes an average of 200 milliseconds, so there is no need to get some coffee while having to wait. This search time includes displaying all found lines with the searchstrings colored (as in your plugin) and providing full links to the involved XML files at the same time (so you can instantaneously view the found lines in full context). I did a test search with your and my tool seaching the Dictionary for the term abbreviated. The results differ, because you might apply a different search algorithm? Result for the Resource Picker: 3 related entries found (containing 32 lines according to my count) Result for Searchdocs XML 2.6: 43 found lines in 17 XML-files Different versions of my Searchdocs XML can be found and downloaded from http://www.sanke.org/MetaMedia, page Samples and Tools for Development or Screenshots (with commentaries and screenshots). Direct download of the latest version for Rev 2.6 is http://www.sanke.org/MetaMedia/Software/SearchDocsXML26-Rev.zip. All versions have an update button to adapt to new Rev versions and changes of the XML-files. Regards, Wilhelm Sanke ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Quickly find out if database is available
Ton, This is sort of indirect but might work. Is there also a web server running on these servers? If so, you could do a simple get URL on the IP address, which should tell you very quickly whether the server is running or not. Devin On Jul 15, 2005, at 5:10 AM, Ton Kuypers wrote: Hi, Is there a way to find out if there is a mySQL database on a specific ip-address? The question seems strange, but the reason is obvious: I have a mySQL database running on 2 servers and if the primary is not running, I need to switch to the second one. I can try to open a connection to the first one and on failure try to open the second one, but due to the timeout of this try to connect action, this takes to long. I need to to do this using OS9, OSx and Windows application... Warm regards, Ton Kuypers Digital Media Partners bvba Tel. +32 (0)477 / 739 530 Fax +32 (0)14 / 71 03 04 http://www.dmp-int.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Search/Replace Strange Behavior
On Jul 14, 2005, at 10:47 PM, Jeanne A. E. DeVoto wrote: At 11:58 AM -0700 7/14/2005, Mark Swindell wrote: I just had a strange behavior I wonder if anyone can explain. I have a card with 3 fields containing many pages of narrative text. They are extensively formatted with linked text, colors, etc. I used the search and replace to change occurrences of two spaces (I learned to type long ago on manual typewriters and can't shake the habit) to only one space. I just typed in two spaces in the find field, and one in the replace field. I limited the find/replace function to field text. I pressed replace, and all formatting was lost on all three fields. Is this a bug, or a feature? I certainly didn't expect it. It's a nuance or a design flaw, depending on how charitable you're feeling. The replace command treats its parameters as pure text, so if you do something like replace foo with bar in field Stuff you'll lose all formatting in the field. Replace seems to make a copy of the target text, then do the replace operation, and then swap the target text back into the field. The find/replace dialog really ought to be using htmlText, I think, although then a certain amount of conniptions would be required to avoid replacing text in an HTML tag It's a pretty nasty nuance, then. How's that? :) It renders the find and replace function useless for formatted text. And it did come as a shock, as it almost destroyed hours of work, because it can't be undone. (No one had ever mentioned that I should back up my stacks regularly.) This seems like a pretty big thing that ought to be addressed by the engineering corps up in Edinborough, no? Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
stupid dialogs
Just wondering if you also get this? When i close a stack and get asked to save a stack, any stack behind and below the top of the answer dialog gets moved smoothly below the dialog. The most stupid thing is that: 1: i have to move it back myself (not smoothly thanks) 2: when in the prefs is the button (haven't we heard that today already?) 3: why doesn't it move the stacks higher than the bottom of the stack above itself? This too should go in the annals of great but embarassing and on top of it, the totally counter productive programming practices awards! A good thing that 4: it doesn't do it for all windows correctly! cheers Xav ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN][EN][FR] New Sophisticated Plugin from So Smart
Sorry for the typo in my last post. The correct link for the direct download of the latest version of my documentation search stack for Rev 2.6 is http://www.sanke.org/Software/SearchDocsXML26-Rev.zip. (MetaMedia has to be left out). Regards, Wilhelm Sanke, Prof Educational Technology University Media Center University of Kassel Germany ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Revolution friendly virtual desktop managers. WinXP
Hi All. I am looking for a virtual desktop manager for windowsXP. Now the reason that this has relevance to the runrev list is, some of these don't hide all the runrev palletes on switching screens. The one I prefer at the moment that does do this properly (Managedesk) has some probelems with explorer and I'd prefer one that could perform drag and drop of files between desktops (I could do this on RISC OS in 1992). Does anyone have any virtual desktop recomendations that are revolution friendly? IE put all the rev windows in one screen per running revolution. This is handy when working on 2-3 rev apps. All the best Bob ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN][EN][FR] New Sophisticated Plugin from So Smart
Dear Wilhelm, Please, read the plugin docs before posting such a mail which hurts me and don't tell the truth. You search for abbreviated in the quick search mode i.e. through the headers only: there are indeed 3 headers in the dictionary which contain abbreviated. This intelligent search takes about 120 milliseconds. If you uncheck the Quick Search box to search deeper, you will not find 17 entries but 21 (145 contextual found lines when you find only 43). Why this difference? Your stack does not search the actual dictionary but through custom properties you have implemented (BTW a good idea for speed). Resources Picker searches always the real dictionary. As youts, the plugin provides full links to the involved entries. Did not you see that too? Do you allow me to add that Resources Picker is a research centre, providing many other search types than through the Docs: mailing lists, Rev On line, RevNet, customisable Web database (for instance, did you try to search for Searchdocs in the Web database? :-), all the web, etc. Regards, Eric Chatonet. Le 15 juil. 05 à 18:23, Wilhelm Sanke a écrit : Hi Eric. I appreciate your open-mindedness and your valuable contributions to the Rev community. Hope I am not too rude when I direct your attention to my SearchDocs stack. This documentation search stack indeed allows simultaneous searches (as an option) of Dictionary, Faqs, and Topics - the Cookbook is not included. Search time through the about 2000 XML-files takes an average of 200 milliseconds, so there is no need to get some coffee while having to wait. This search time includes displaying all found lines with the searchstrings colored (as in your plugin) and providing full links to the involved XML files at the same time (so you can instantaneously view the found lines in full context). I did a test search with your and my tool seaching the Dictionary for the term abbreviated. The results differ, because you might apply a different search algorithm? Result for the Resource Picker: 3 related entries found (containing 32 lines according to my count) Result for Searchdocs XML 2.6: 43 found lines in 17 XML-files So Smart Software For institutions, companies and associations Built-to-order applications: management, multimedia, internet, etc. Windows, Mac OS and Linux... With the French touch Free plugins and tutorials on my website Web sitehttp://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Phone33 (0)1 43 31 77 62 Mobile33 (0)6 20 74 50 86 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Quartam Reports, day late, dime short
Can't argue with that! Björnke von Gierke wrote: On Jul 15 2005, at 13:09, Jon wrote: I know nothing about Jan or the product, but sometimes the knee jerk reaction on this list is if you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything. I'm not sure that is really in anyone's best interest. Hi Jon I think that people object not to the content of the raised comments, but to the tone of them (at least that was my reaction). Simply saying Why didn't you incorporate feature... instead of I demand a feature... goes a long way towards a nice and cool atmosphere on a list. greetings Björnke ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution friendly virtual desktop managers. WinXP
Bob: If these desktop managers work for everything BUT Rev, does that say something? I'm always annoyed when I alttab away from Rev and then try to alttab back, only to discover that 1) most of the Rev windows remain hidden, and 2) the Rev window that does appear is rarely the one I was using most recently. I then have to manually start hiding windows until I can work in Rev again. To be honest, I would be hard pressed to write such a mis-behaving program in Windows if I were trying to. Perhaps another approach would be to lobby Rev to try to make the entire IDE more friendly in this particular regard. Jon Bob Hartley wrote: Hi All. I am looking for a virtual desktop manager for windowsXP. Now the reason that this has relevance to the runrev list is, some of these don't hide all the runrev palletes on switching screens. The one I prefer at the moment that does do this properly (Managedesk) has some probelems with explorer and I'd prefer one that could perform drag and drop of files between desktops (I could do this on RISC OS in 1992). Does anyone have any virtual desktop recomendations that are revolution friendly? IE put all the rev windows in one screen per running revolution. This is handy when working on 2-3 rev apps. All the best Bob ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: arcadeEngine
Hi Jim, Congratulations on arcadeEngine. Looks like lots of fun--and a lot of work. Thanks a lot! It was both lots of fun and work. It took almost 2 years to get it all done. (including research and rewrites) Does it included changes in the engine specific to your routines? If so, are they specific to Dreamcard, or will they be available in future releases of Studio and Enterprise? No. It is all written in pure Transcript. :-) It works with every version of Revolution and Dreamcard I have available. (including 1.1.1 on classic) All the best, Malte ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: videoClip does stop playing????
Hello, I have a video (.mov) I create a button (play) with this code: on mouseUp play videoClip my movie end mouseUp I also create another button (close) with this code: on mouseUp close this stack stop playing videoClip my movie end mouseUp The problem is: the stack is closed but the video still play (you can here it) I don't know any other command to stop the video. Please help. Thank you use reverse order and the correct syntax for you commands, that should do the trick :-) on mouseUp play stop vc close this stack end mouseUp vc = short for videoclip No need to specify the name of the clip, since only one clip can be playing at a time... Thank you it works - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Search/Replace Strange Behavior
At 9:34 AM -0700 7/15/2005, Mark Swindell wrote: It's a nuance or a design flaw, depending on how charitable you're feeling. The replace command treats its parameters as pure text, so if you do something like replace foo with bar in field Stuff you'll lose all formatting in the field. Replace seems to make a copy of the target text, then do the replace operation, and then swap the target text back into the field. It's a pretty nasty nuance, then. How's that? :) Sounds about right. ;-) It renders the find and replace function useless for formatted text. And it did come as a shock, as it almost destroyed hours of work, because it can't be undone. (No one had ever mentioned that I should back up my stacks regularly.) This seems like a pretty big thing that ought to be addressed by the engineering corps up in Edinborough, no? Agreed. I thought there was a report on the replace command's behavior, but I wasn't able to find it, so I've bugzillad this as 3008 and 3009. -- jeanne a. e. devoto ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jaedworks.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution friendly virtual desktop managers. WinXP
You wrote: Bob: Hi Jon If these desktop managers work for everything BUT Rev, does that say something? Well not exactly, they also dont always work with GIMP. However The one I am using seems to be OK-ish now. There must have been a conflict with another app. Mind you still not as good as the RISC OS implementation. I'm always annoyed when I alttab away from Rev and then try to alttab back, only to discover that 1) most of the Rev windows remain hidden, and 2) the Rev window that does appear is rarely the one I was using most recently. I then have to manually start hiding windows until I can work in Rev again. I do have slight annoyances, not with this particular scenario but others, however, this is only because I have multiple instances of rev running. Just my preference, and indeed there are benefits to not do this, stack swapping being one particular example. To be honest, I would be hard pressed to write such a mis-behaving program in Windows if I were trying to. Well all my questions can be answered with virtual desktops. Perhaps it is because my original computing environment was so lean in memory useage (Easiwriter reads/writes word2003 and is only 800K) that I grew up on a system with 2-3 monitors or 6-9 virtual desktops. I habe now been incluined to go to the virtual desktop route again and am instantly more productive. But really I'm pretty laid back about things, and actually only interested in a virtual desktop manager. :-) As for rev being poorly written, well I think it is actually marvelous. It has its problems but so do other things. Probably from a Pro point of view it may be slightly irritating when seing all these windows; however, from my point of view, I actually love the ease of writing transcript and I'm not annoyed by the IDE. Perhaps another approach would be to lobby Rev to try to make the entire IDE more friendly in this particular regard. Considering the amount of money they make in comparison to Microsoft, perhaps I should lobby MS to get virtual desktops implemented. Anyway: Every cloud has a silver lining. Or as Monty Python suggested I should Always look on the bright side.. I now have virtual desktops, just not the ideal one. All the best Bob; Sunny (honest) Scotland Jon Bob Hartley wrote: Hi All. I am looking for a virtual desktop manager for windowsXP. Now the reason that this has relevance to the runrev list is, some of these don't hide all the runrev palletes on switching screens. The one I prefer at the moment that does do this properly (Managedesk) has some probelems with explorer and I'd prefer one that could perform drag and drop of files between desktops (I could do this on RISC OS in 1992). Does anyone have any virtual desktop recomendations that are revolution friendly? IE put all the rev windows in one screen per running revolution. This is handy when working on 2-3 rev apps. All the best Bob ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Snap To
Xav, I didn't see a reply to this yet: Im wondering if anyone has a snap-to point script or algorithm they might want to share. Doesn't need to be a script but i would prefer a proven-working model or concept. The idea is to round off the coordinates to the nearest multiple of your grid points. If you put this in a button script, the button will only move to points at coordinates that are multiples of 8. on mouseDown repeat while the mouse is down -- (this is just for testing something!) show me at 8*(mouseH() div 8 ), 8*(mouseV() div 8) end repeat end mouseDown HTH, sorry if this isn't what you meant. Jim Lyons ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution friendly virtual desktop managers. WinXP
Already done: See Deskman at: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx -Chipp Bob Hartley wrote: Considering the amount of money they make in comparison to Microsoft, perhaps I should lobby MS to get virtual desktops implemented. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Arcade Engine
I have a couple of textbooks and I have created Runtime Rev arcade games to go with them. I just make them simple with fish jumping around and things like that by hiding and showing buttons and graphics -- that sort of thing. Very labor intensive. Is this Arcade Engine a good buy for me? I'd like to make something that has a more modern look than my 80-90s-looking games. I have Rev 2.1 studio. There isn't much info on the RunRev page. Anyone know anything about how it would be to create (royalty free) standalones for distribution with Arcade Engine? Thanks very much, Tom in Arizona ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
development tools question
Is it possible to have the horizontal development tools bar to float like the vertical one does? Joe in Orlando, Florida ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Arcade Engine
Hi Thomas, I have a couple of textbooks and I have created Runtime Rev arcade games to go with them. I just make them simple with fish jumping around and things like that by hiding and showing buttons and graphics -- that sort of thing. Very labor intensive. Sounds interesting! Is this Arcade Engine a good buy for me? I'd like to make something that has a more modern look than my 80-90s-looking games. I have Rev 2.1 studio. There isn't much info on the RunRev page. Anyone know anything about how it would be to create (royalty free) standalones for distribution with Arcade Engine? ArcadeEngine will allow you to add very smooth and pretty animation. It will add life to your apps. The best thing to judge if it can do what you want is to download the demo that you can find on runrevs website: http://www.runrev.com/section/revselect/arcadeengine/ This is just a small demonstration of what arcadeEngine can do. If you like that, I recommend that you download the library and Getting Started stack at the same URL. Once you've played with it, you'll see that scripting is very easy to do. Regarding the distribution: The only limitation on AE is that you can´t use it in Development mode unless you register. If you want to distribute your work, you can simply embed it as a substack to your stack. Compile your work for any platform you like or distribute to or release the stack with AE on board for use in the Dreamcard player. No more royalties for that. Your end users won´t have to register the library as it works in a standalone or the player without limitation. In addition you get free online support for the library. If you need help on using AE you can join the support forum at http://www.derbrill.com/arcadeengine/forum and your questions will be answered as soon as possible. I will prepare (and already have posted) some tutorials on using the library. And of course I am eager to see what users do with it. :-) All the best, Malte ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Arcade Engine
Recently, Thomas Cole wrote: Is this Arcade Engine a good buy for me? I'd like to make something that has a more modern look than my 80-90s-looking games. I have Rev 2.1 studio. There isn't much info on the RunRev page. Anyone know anything about how it would be to create (royalty free) standalones for distribution with Arcade Engine? ArcadeEngine is not about a look per se (although last I saw, there were a few spirograph-esque functions included) -- it's about functionality. Malte has provide many useful functions and commands for creating movement/animation/gameplay. The look is still up to you. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution friendly virtual desktop managers. WinXP
You wrote: Already done: See Deskman at: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx I Chipp. Thanks for the info. I've seen that one before. When you change screens it doesn't clear the iconbar. The other one I have is only $35 so not too bad. cheers Bob -Chipp Bob Hartley wrote: Considering the amount of money they make in comparison to Microsoft, perhaps I should lobby MS to get virtual desktops implemented. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Quartam Reports, day late, dime short
Jon, I know nothing about this situation, other than what I read in the past day or two, but it seems to me that, tone aside, some of what Paul is saying IS professional. That's exactly the point. The tone is not aside, and it wasn't subtle. It was an angry, rude, demanding rant. Saying I don't mean to hurt you is pretty pointless right before you intentionally step on someone's foot. He explained to Jan specifically what his customers needed, and hoped that Jan had listened. As to trite remarks about ... missed deadlines, I'm not so sure that such remarks, if they're true, are trite. Truth has nothing to do with whether they were trite. Calling them trite means they were overused and lost their meaning due to the angry, unprofessional presentation. Shouting weakens your point sometimes. Explaining to the rest of us that a particular developer may not meet announced deadlines, while depressing, is actually useful to professional programmers who need to plan their schedules carefully. Again, I never said that all of the content of the posts was false. Software schedules are notorious for slippage, and it's bad form to have your development rely on any unreleased software at all. If someone can calmly show me where a particular vendor is notoriously worse than others, with some real evidence, I'm all ears. Otherwise, it's hearsay. I know nothing about Jan or the product, but sometimes the knee jerk reaction on this list is if you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything. I'm not sure that is really in anyone's best interest. No. If there is a valid criticism, just present it in civil manner. It happens several times a day every day on this list, and it works quite well. Hey, don't get me wrong. If anyone wants to exercise their right to voice their opinion in whatever tone they want, there's nothing I can do about it. But the heck if it makes me want to help them, which is what this list is all about. And that's a pity. The signal to noise ratio on this list is damn good, and I would hate for that to change. With that said, I think I've put in my 2 cents. --- Brian Yennie Chief Technology Officer QLD Learning, LLC (310)-367-7364 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Snap To
Thanks Jim That i could do already. The problem is that finding approximated rects of corners of other windows can be taxing if not confusing... I've tried to do a double filter on h and v vectors but the same it's confusing... Though this gives me a new sub-filtering idea... cheers Xavier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Lyons Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 21:01 To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: Snap To Xav, I didn't see a reply to this yet: Im wondering if anyone has a snap-to point script or algorithm they might want to share. Doesn't need to be a script but i would prefer a proven-working model or concept. The idea is to round off the coordinates to the nearest multiple of your grid points. If you put this in a button script, the button will only move to points at coordinates that are multiples of 8. on mouseDown repeat while the mouse is down -- (this is just for testing something!) show me at 8*(mouseH() div 8 ), 8*(mouseV() div 8) end repeat end mouseDown HTH, sorry if this isn't what you meant. Jim Lyons ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Search/Replace Strange Behavior
On Fri, 15 Jul 2005, Mark Swindell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The find/replace dialog really ought to be using htmlText, I think, although then a certain amount of conniptions would be required to avoid replacing text in an HTML tag It's a pretty nasty nuance, then. How's that? It renders the find and replace function useless for formatted text. And it did come as a shock, as it almost destroyed hours of work, because it can't be undone. (No one had ever mentioned that I should back up my stacks regularly.) This seems like a pretty big thing that ought to be addressed by the engineering corps up in Edinborough, no? Mark Hi Mark, at least Jeanne A. E. DeVoto pointed into the right direction: - Put the HTMLtext of the field into a variable - do the replace in the variable - set the HTMLtext of the field to the variable like put the htmltext of fld X into tInterim replace searchstring with replacestring in tInterim set the htmltext of fld Xto tInterim. This is applicable in most cases, e.g. the coloring of the searchstrings in my Searchdocs stack is brought about by the lines put the htmltext of fld X into tInterim replace searchstring with FONT color=#FFsearchstring/FONT in tInterim set the htmltext of fld Xto tInterim Regards, Wilhelm Sanke ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Text Hyperlink
I'd like to thank you both for your quick response. It is appreciated. Sincerely, Doug Gilliland Sarasota, FL On 7/14/05, Lynch, Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Linktext is the way to go... Such as... Set the linktext of word 2 of field myField to myCard Then, in order to respond to it, you can do one of the following: If it is a locked field, do this: On linkclicked pLink If exists(card pLink of this stack) = true then go card pLink End linkclicked If this is in an unlocked field, linkclicked won't work. For an unlocked field, use this: On selectionchanged -- make sure it is a click action, rather than a highlighting action If word 4 of the selectedchunk = word 2 of the selectedchunk then exit selectionchanged -- then get the link information of the selected text and respond to it Put the linktext of the selection into tLink If exists(card tLink of this stack) = true then go card tLink End selectionchanged -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas Gilliland Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 12:04 PM To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Text Hyperlink How can I select a word in a scrolling text field and assign it actions? I have been placing transparent buttons over text in non-scrolling fields- works great but won't work for scrolling fields. Searched the documentation and Dan's book but no answers. Tried selecting the text and using link (hoping for a hyperlink) but that looks like it is more for grouping text. I know this is a simple question (as all questions are when you know the answer) but being a newbe who authored in HyperStudio for years, I can't figure it out. I do appreciate all the advice I have received in previous posts. Doug Gilliland Sarasota, FL ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
ZMODEM protocol support in Rev
Happy Friday. Has anyone worked with ZMODEM protocol in Rev? I need to upload and download files from a telco blackbox that I am connected to via a telnet session. The box's command that I want to support is: copy masterfile-conf zmodem: If you use windows Hyperterminal to telnet in there is support for the zmodem protocol and the command copies the file from the box to the Hyperterminal folder. But I would like to use Rev as the Telnet client and everything else works fine other than the ability to support the copy command. Any suggestions are appreciated. thanks, ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN][EN][FR] New Sophisticated Plugin from So Smart
On Fri Jul 15 Eric Chatonet eric.chatonet at sosmartsoftware.com wrote: Dear Wilhelm, Please, read the plugin docs before posting such a mail which hurts me and don't tell the truth. (snip) Dear Eric, Despite my earnest intention not to be rude it seems I underestimated this task (Here is the place for an appropriate smiley). What I tried to respond to was the question of the joint search of Dictionary, Faq, Topics etc. at the same time and your reservations about the longer search time needed then. Indeed I did not explore the many options you implemented in your research centre, and my comment about the differences of the found lines was more of an afterthought after a first test. Your stack does not search the actual dictionary but through custom properties you have implemented (BTW a good idea for speed). Resources Picker searches always the real dictionary. My tool SearchDocs XML searches the real dictionary, too, the only difference being that I stripped the XML tags and stored the pure text in arrays. The additional advantage of this procedure - apart from a momentous gain in speed - is that you can search for any length of a string in the docs. As an example, you could search for a longer string like move an animation to its starting frame, which in most cases would not be possible with the search functions in the Rev docs, because the searchstring would probably be interrupted by XML tags in the real XML files. I surely will explore your tool in full and provide feedback if questions or recommendations come up. Best regards, Wilhelm Sanke ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: ZMODEM protocol support in Rev
On Jul 15, 2005, at 6:39 PM, Glen Bojsza wrote: Happy Friday. Has anyone worked with ZMODEM protocol in Rev? I need to upload and download files from a telco blackbox that I am connected to via a telnet session. The box's command that I want to support is: Glen, are you using what operating system? Andre copy masterfile-conf zmodem: If you use windows Hyperterminal to telnet in there is support for the zmodem protocol and the command copies the file from the box to the Hyperterminal folder. But I would like to use Rev as the Telnet client and everything else works fine other than the ability to support the copy command. Any suggestions are appreciated. thanks, ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: ZMODEM protocol support in Rev
On Jul 15, 2005, at 6:39 PM, Glen Bojsza wrote: Happy Friday. Has anyone worked with ZMODEM protocol in Rev? I need to upload and download files from a telco blackbox that I am connected to via a telnet session. The box's command that I want to support is: copy masterfile-conf zmodem: well, don't really needed the answer for my previous email. I think the fastest way to use ZModem with Rev is using the same tecnique used by BBS back in the good old days. Use a shell program. If you're lucky to be on windows (argh, never thought I'd say that), you have tons of command line tools to do Z/X/YModem and Kermit. You would just use shell() to launch the program, that was the way that old BBS coped with file transfers. Altough some have builtin X and Zmodem. if you're on unixland you also have some tools available. The wonderfull BBS Documentary site got all those tools for download... Cheers andre If you use windows Hyperterminal to telnet in there is support for the zmodem protocol and the command copies the file from the box to the Hyperterminal folder. But I would like to use Rev as the Telnet client and everything else works fine other than the ability to support the copy command. Any suggestions are appreciated. thanks, ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Arcade Engine
Remember that Malte will answer any questions you can imagine about the Arcade Engine on Sunday 19.30 CET in ChatRev. get your copy at http://chatrev.bjoernke.com The time for the chatrev in seconds is: 1121621400 Put this into your message box to get your local time: convert 1121621400 to internet date;put it -- http://contest.wecode.org Now running: the first ChatRev coding contest! sponsors: Altuit Andre Garzia Fourth World Karl Becker Runtime Revolution TidBITS in cooperation with eHUG ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Search/Replace Strange Behavior
Mark- Friday, July 15, 2005, 9:34:12 AM, you wrote: MS because it can't be undone. (No one had ever mentioned that I should MS back up my stacks regularly.) This seems like a pretty big thing that Ahem... BACK UP YOUR STACKS REGULARLY. There. Now you've been told. Not just your stacks, either. You *do* make backups, yes? I use Chipp's altArchive plugin to save a copy just before I'm about to make a major change. http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/RunRevArchived/Plugins.htm -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Patch Stack for App Browser 2.5.1 and 2.6
Hi Devin, No I did not sent this to Bugzilla. As I do each time I provide the answer too, I sent a copy to support and to Mark Waddingham. May be it's not the right way. What's your opinion? Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. Le 15 juil. 05 à 18:22, Devin Asay a écrit : Eric, Have you posted this problem as a bug fix or feature request on Bugzilla? Devin On Jul 15, 2005, at 4:06 AM, Eric Chatonet wrote: Hi all, I you have followed the thread App Browser Woes. on this list, you know the facts: How come when I change something in my stack, like the layer number or the object name etc. It doesn't change in the App Browser Window? And my answer: To be precise, the problem came in with Rev 2.5.1. (no problem with prior versions) In order to save time, runRev guys imagined to keep the current controls list into a cache (good idea) and refresh this list only when a control is deleted or added (very bad idea). Here is a patch stack to correct the devastating side effects ;-) Just run the line below in the message box: go url http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/downloads/App%20Browser% 20Patch.rev In topic and as a reminder, you will find below a short specification of my Objects Picker plugin you can download from my website: Objects Picker makes it possible to edit properties and scripts in one click. It also offers dozens of powerful functions like the graphical reorganization of layers or the moving of objects, copying and pasting of properties or styles, the incremental denomination of objects, the management of profiles, and improved script edition, the bookmarking of objects as well as other functions... Objects Picker fits in well with Revolution IDE: it uses objects lists as in Rev Application Browser and uses the same shortcuts you specified for it as well it takes care of Revolution UI Elements In Lists preference. In a word, Objects Picker uses contextual menus to perform varied (and what are sometimes boring :-) actions, all at once, with just one mouse-click, on multiple objects: features are derived directly from programming experience and will help you save a lot of time when you are developing. Note that this heavy plugin (850 KB zip archive, 1.9 MB on disk) is the only one which is not free but you will get yours money's worth (€ 12 :-) Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University So Smart Software For institutions, companies and associations Built-to-order applications: management, multimedia, internet, etc. Windows, Mac OS and Linux... With the French touch Free plugins and tutorials on my website Web sitehttp://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Phone33 (0)1 43 31 77 62 Mobile33 (0)6 20 74 50 86 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Patch Stack for App Browser 2.5.1 and 2.6
Eric Chatonet wrote: Hi Devin, No I did not sent this to Bugzilla. As I do each time I provide the answer too, I sent a copy to support and to Mark Waddingham. May be it's not the right way. What's your opinion? I think it would be good to have it in Bugzilla. 1. More likely to be found by anyone searching to see if this problem they've just discovered is a already a known problem or not. (Searching the list archive isn't as reliable, nor as sure to be done, as searching BZ). 2. Gives everyone else the opportunity to vote for it. 3. Gives everyone a chance to be notified when it is fixed (or rejected, in the unlikely event that it was intended behaviour for some subtle reason that we didn't think of). 3a. Gives a reference number for the Patch Tracker to use :-) -- Alex. -- Alex Tweedly http://www.tweedly.net -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.14/48 - Release Date: 13/07/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Patch Stack for App Browser 2.5.1 and 2.6
On Jul 15, 2005, at 5:09 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote: Eric Chatonet wrote: Hi Devin, No I did not sent this to Bugzilla. As I do each time I provide the answer too, I sent a copy to support and to Mark Waddingham. May be it's not the right way. What's your opinion? I think it would be good to have it in Bugzilla. 1. More likely to be found by anyone searching to see if this problem they've just discovered is a already a known problem or not. (Searching the list archive isn't as reliable, nor as sure to be done, as searching BZ). 2. Gives everyone else the opportunity to vote for it. 3. Gives everyone a chance to be notified when it is fixed (or rejected, in the unlikely event that it was intended behaviour for some subtle reason that we didn't think of). 3a. Gives a reference number for the Patch Tracker to use :-) -- Alex. I'm inclined to agree with Alex, for the reasons he listed. I am happy you've alerted Mark W. separately, however, because it lights another little fire under this issue, and we would hope it will be fixed sooner. Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Patch Stack for App Browser 2.5.1 and 2.6
On Jul 15, 2005, at 7:06 AM, Eric Chatonet wrote: go url http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/downloads/App%20Browser% 20Patch.rev The stack is reporting that I am not using 2.5.1 or higher, here it's 2.5.1RC2... is something wrong? cheers Andre ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Quartam Reports, day late, dime short
Nope, I don't think that's the knee-jerk reaction, at least not very often. The knee-jerk reaction is more like, If you must criticize, please do so with consideration for the feelings of the object(s) of your criticism and keep the tone civil. I can't argue with that. On Jul 15, 2005, at 10:37 AM, Jon wrote: sometimes the knee jerk reaction on this list is if you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything. I'm not sure that is really in anyone's best interest. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: development tools question
If you download Chipp Walters' mini-me plug-in, it is. :-) dan On Jul 15, 2005, at 12:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to have the horizontal development tools bar to float like the vertical one does? Joe in Orlando, Florida ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Patch Stack for App Browser 2.5.1 and 2.6
On 7/15/05 6:19 PM, Devin Asay wrote: On Jul 15, 2005, at 5:09 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote: Eric Chatonet wrote: Hi Devin, No I did not sent this to Bugzilla. As I do each time I provide the answer too, I sent a copy to support and to Mark Waddingham. May be it's not the right way. What's your opinion? I think it would be good to have it in Bugzilla. 1. More likely to be found by anyone searching to see if this problem they've just discovered is a already a known problem or not. (Searching the list archive isn't as reliable, nor as sure to be done, as searching BZ). 2. Gives everyone else the opportunity to vote for it. 3. Gives everyone a chance to be notified when it is fixed (or rejected, in the unlikely event that it was intended behaviour for some subtle reason that we didn't think of). 3a. Gives a reference number for the Patch Tracker to use :-) -- Alex. I'm inclined to agree with Alex, for the reasons he listed. I am happy you've alerted Mark W. separately, however, because it lights another little fire under this issue, and we would hope it will be fixed sooner. It should go into Bugzilla, because Mark isn't always the one who fixes this type of bug. Putting it into Bugzilla automatically assigns the bug to the right person. Mark gets pretty busy; sending everything to him could actualy slow down the process. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
