Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 22, Issue 78
Hi All, Hold on a second here -- I hadn't throughly read all these emails about pricing, and figured they were a consequence of the runrev webstore country check. But I do not recall offering Quartam Reports at $199 -- in fact, I checked my archives, and while prices have dropped (Express was originally $149, and Pro was $349 in November of last year) the Pro edition has never gone below $249. However, I have extended the introductory price from three weeks after launch originally, to match the offers at the RunRev webstore (August 25). Runtime Revolution indeed has a special offer to get Quartam Reports Pro for $199, but only if there is a Revolution Enterprise in the mix. New payment methods will be available later this week. Best regards, Jan Schenkel. -- Quartam - Tools for Revolution http://www.quartam.com --- CHARLES W SZASZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have also been waiting for a long time for Quartam Reports Pro and would like to get the special price of $199. I also cannot find this special price at the Revolution site, which is the seller of Quartam Reports Pro. Charles Szasz Lead School Psychologist and Section 504 Coordinator Kanawha County Schools (304) 348-7770, Ext. 347 From: Glen Bojsza [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Quartam Reports Pricing To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I have been trying to find out what happen to the original pricing offer of $199 (that was advertised for the last few months on Quartam's site) for anyone that purchased Quartam Reports Pro if they purchased it with in the first few weeks of availability. Revolution gives this offer only if purchased with other Revolution products. If anyone can point me to the correct link or let me know how to purchase it for the $199 price for early adopters I would appreciate it. I've waited for some time for its release and now I can't seem to purchase it I just don't want to miss out on the early special. thanks, -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Quartam Reports pricing
Hi All, Hold on a second here -- I hadn't throughly read all these emails about pricing, and figured they were a consequence of the runrev webstore country check. But I do not recall offering Quartam Reports at $199 -- in fact, I checked my archives, and while prices have dropped (Express was originally $149, and Pro was $349 in November of last year) the Pro edition has never gone below $249. However, I have extended the introductory price from three weeks after launch originally, to match the offers at the RunRev webstore (August 25). Runtime Revolution indeed has a special offer to get Quartam Reports Pro for $199, but only if there is a Revolution Enterprise in the mix. New payment methods will be available later this week. Best regards, Jan Schenkel. -- Quartam - Tools for Revolution http://www.quartam.com --- CHARLES W SZASZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have also been waiting for a long time for Quartam Reports Pro and would like to get the special price of $199. I also cannot find this special price at the Revolution site, which is the seller of Quartam Reports Pro. Charles Szasz Lead School Psychologist and Section 504 Coordinator Kanawha County Schools (304) 348-7770, Ext. 347 From: Glen Bojsza [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Quartam Reports Pricing To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I have been trying to find out what happen to the original pricing offer of $199 (that was advertised for the last few months on Quartam's site) for anyone that purchased Quartam Reports Pro if they purchased it with in the first few weeks of availability. Revolution gives this offer only if purchased with other Revolution products. If anyone can point me to the correct link or let me know how to purchase it for the $199 price for early adopters I would appreciate it. I've waited for some time for its release and now I can't seem to purchase it I just don't want to miss out on the early special. thanks, -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Quartam - Tools for Revolution http://www.quartam.com = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: CGI to send back a file to save
Hi, I'm a bit late on this thread, but I have some code that might help. What I actually do is generate on-the-fly pdf files with Rev cgi, and users get the usual WinXP dialog asking what they want to do with the file, save it or open it : put Content-Type: application/pdf cr Content-Length : number of chars of myPDF cr Content-Disposition: attachment; filename= q myRequestName q cr cr q contains the quote char. the above line works well under WinXP and MacOSX. I guess a few mods (in Content-Type mostly) may solve your problem... Best, JB Short version: I need to know the proper HTTP header to set to force a browser to save the incoming data to a file. (at least I *think* that's what I need to know.) Long Scenario: Goal: create a CGI that responds to a GET request that will automatically generate a fooSoundFile.ram file in a variable based on the query string e.g. $QUERY_STRING = audioFile=hawaii_papayas.mp3 then the .ram filename should be hawaii_papayas.ram and contain the string: http://www.himalayanacademy.com/audio/tropical_fruit_music/ hawaii_papayas.mp3 [you should hear those papayas sing!] Now, generating all that is a easy enough. But the usual scenario is that you have all these .ram files prebuilt (which is what I am trying to avoid. Old .ram files lying around the web site are a *big* nuisance to maintain) and the user clicks on a link a href=/audio/tropical_fruit_music/hawaii_papayas.ramReal Player/a and the .ram file is downloaded-saved to the client side disk... Real Player is mapped to .ram in the internet helper apps, boots and reads this file and streams the audio. I want the CGI to take over that process and serve the .ram file dynamically. OK, so all I know how to do is: put http://www.himalayanacademy.com/audio/tropical_fruit_music/ hawaii_papayas.mp3 into tRamFile http://www.himalayanacademy.com/audio/tropical_fruit_music/ hawaii_papayas.mp3 put Content-Type: text/plain cr put Content-Length: the length of tRamFile cr cr put tRamFile of course this is not going to work... that string will appear as a literal in the user's browser. is it as simple as something like: # just guessing.. I haven't a clue... put Content-Type: binary/file cr put Content-Length: the length of tRamFile cr cr put tRamFile # where the browser can't read it, so it saves it ?? i.e. we can of course do a redirect, like this: put http://www.himalayanacademy.com/audio/tropical_fruit_music/ hawaii_papayas.mp3 into tRamFile put tRamFile into url (file: audio/tropical_fruit_music/ hawaii_papayas.ram) put Status: 301 Moved Permanently cr put Location:http://www.himalayanacademy.com/audio/ tropical_fruit_music/hawaii_papayas.ram cr cr But, then I end up once again, with all these .ram files on disk... so I was hoping to find a way to pipe it straight out of the CGI... i.e. to take what is coming back from port 80 and save it instead of trying to render it...maybe this is the wrong place to ask this... I will take it to Experts-Exchange if no one here knows. TIA Sivakatirswami ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
How do I get the resolution of an image accessed by a Player?
Hi, I am open ing a TIFF file via a player object, I can get the Width and Height of the image with the formattedWidth/Height properties, but how can I get the resolution or DPI? Thanks in Advance Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How do I get the resolution of an image accessed by a Player?
Hi Dave, Resolution depends on the ratio between the actual size and the current size of the image. If the current size is the actual size, the resolution is 72 DPI with most monitors. At half size 144 DPI, etc. With Rev objects all this does not make sense since I think Rev recalculates all prints at 72 DPI when they are resized. All things change when you want to print a TIFF image from the actual file by using the printer prefs. Then it works as above. But within Rev, you always get a 72 DPI resolution. I'm not a specialist of these things, others will correct me and bring to you more precise information. It's just my two cents. Le 18 juil. 05 à 12:23, David Burgun a écrit : I am open ing a TIFF file via a player object, I can get the Width and Height of the image with the formattedWidth/Height properties, but how can I get the resolution or DPI? Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. So Smart Software For institutions, companies and associations Built-to-order applications: management, multimedia, internet, etc. Windows, Mac OS and Linux... With the French touch Free plugins and tutorials on my website Web sitehttp://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Phone33 (0)1 43 31 77 62 Mobile33 (0)6 20 74 50 86 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How do I get the resolution of an image accessed by a Player?
Hi, I just need to display the current resolution with in the image (e.g the TIFF property), I am not going to change the DPI or use it to scale an image, it's just that we have the same images but with different resolutions and displaying the DPI of the underlying file is the best way to tell the difference. Thanks a lot Dave Hi Dave, Resolution depends on the ratio between the actual size and the current size of the image. If the current size is the actual size, the resolution is 72 DPI with most monitors. At half size 144 DPI, etc. With Rev objects all this does not make sense since I think Rev recalculates all prints at 72 DPI when they are resized. All things change when you want to print a TIFF image from the actual file by using the printer prefs. Then it works as above. But within Rev, you always get a 72 DPI resolution. I'm not a specialist of these things, others will correct me and bring to you more precise information. It's just my two cents. Le 18 juil. 05 à 12:23, David Burgun a écrit : I am open ing a TIFF file via a player object, I can get the Width and Height of the image with the formattedWidth/Height properties, but how can I get the resolution or DPI? Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. So Smart Software For institutions, companies and associations Built-to-order applications: management, multimedia, internet, etc. Windows, Mac OS and Linux... With the French touch Free plugins and tutorials on my website Web sitehttp://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Phone33 (0)1 43 31 77 62 Mobile33 (0)6 20 74 50 86 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Quartam Reports pricing
Also there is a place were people can download your program and try it out
first? Can you past that link here as well as how long does it work in trial
version?
Bill
On 7/18/05 3:47 AM, Jan Schenkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi All,
Hold on a second here -- I hadn't throughly read all
these emails about pricing, and figured they were a
consequence of the runrev webstore country check.
But I do not recall offering Quartam Reports at $199
-- in fact, I checked my archives, and while prices
have dropped (Express was originally $149, and Pro was
$349 in November of last year) the Pro edition has
never gone below $249.
However, I have extended the introductory price from
three weeks after launch originally, to match the
offers at the RunRev webstore (August 25).
Runtime Revolution indeed has a special offer to get
Quartam Reports Pro for $199, but only if there is a
Revolution Enterprise in the mix.
New payment methods will be available later this week.
Best regards,
Jan Schenkel.
--
Quartam - Tools for Revolution
http://www.quartam.com
--- CHARLES W SZASZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have also been waiting for a long time for Quartam
Reports Pro and would like to get the
special price of $199. I also cannot find this
special price at the Revolution site, which is the
seller of Quartam Reports Pro.
Charles Szasz
Lead School Psychologist and Section 504 Coordinator
Kanawha County Schools
(304) 348-7770, Ext. 347
From: Glen Bojsza [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Quartam Reports Pricing
To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Message-ID:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
I have been trying to find out what happen to the
original pricing
offer of $199 (that was advertised for the last
few months on
Quartam's site) for anyone that purchased Quartam
Reports Pro if they
purchased it with in the first few weeks of
availability.
Revolution gives this offer only if purchased with
other Revolution
products.
If anyone can point me to the correct link or let
me know how to
purchase it for the $199 price for early adopters
I would appreciate
it. I've waited for some time for its release and
now I can't seem to
purchase it I just don't want to miss out on
the early special.
thanks,
--
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embed/install font
I'm creating a presentation and I need to be sure the user has access to a Unicode font. I'd like to standardize on Bitstream's Vera font, which is free and very good. 1) Is there any way to access the font dynamically without installing it on the user's system? A while ago there was a thread Own fontsuite with standalone? Several authors referenced the EXT.dll as a way to dynamically access fonts on the PC. How is this done? Has anyone successfully employed this technique? 2) If I can't access it dynamically, how do I install it? I purchased InstallGadget, but that currently doesn't update the Windows registry upon installation. Any ideas on how to address this problem would be greatly appreciated. Brad ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How do I get the resolution of an image accessed by a Player?
Hi David, Hi, I just need to display the current resolution with in the image (e.g the TIFF property), I am not going to change the DPI or use it to scale an image, it's just that we have the same images but with different resolutions and displaying the DPI of the underlying file is the best way to tell the difference. i don't think that you can check the resolution with Rev's build in capabilities. Like most (non image edititing) apps, Rev is only aware of 72 DPI and does not know about resolution per se... Rev will always display images at 72 DPI! You could use Alex Tweedley's nice EXIF Lib (via Rev online, i think) or use Applescript Image Events on a mac to retrieve image resolution (and more...) Thanks a lot Dave Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Problem with Editable Fields
Hi, I have the a number of fields in a card that have to be range checked, to do this i have the following code: on openField set the cpSaveTextOfMe to the text of me end openField on closeField if (the text of me 0) or (the text of me 999) then set the text of me to the cpSaveTextOfMe of me select the text of me beep end closeField There is also a Done Button that has this script: on mouseUp save this stack close this stack end mouseUp If I enter an invalid number and then click in another field, I get beep and the contents of the field are restored and all is well. However, if I enter an invalid number and then click the Done button, it looks like the mouseUp handler is run BEFORE the closeField handler. Since the value stored in the stack is the invalid data. Is this the correct action? If so, what is the best way to make this work so that bad values are not saved in the stack. I really don't want to have to validate all fields from the Done and other buttons on the card. Thanks in Advance Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: embed/install font
I remember the days long ago in Hypercard where you could install a font as a resource in a stack, and it 'just worked', even though we were warned not to for some reason. sqb I'm creating a presentation and I need to be sure the user has access to a Unicode font. I'd like to standardize on Bitstream's Vera font, which is free and very good. 1) Is there any way to access the font dynamically without installing it on the user's system? A while ago there was a thread Own fontsuite with standalone? Several authors referenced the EXT.dll as a way to dynamically access fonts on the PC. How is this done? Has anyone successfully employed this technique? 2) If I can't access it dynamically, how do I install it? I purchased InstallGadget, but that currently doesn't update the Windows registry upon installation. Any ideas on how to address this problem would be greatly appreciated. Brad ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Problem with Editable Fields
Hi Dave, May be another approach, more ergonomic, could help you: Just allow numbers to be typed into your field with a generic handler like the following: on keyDown pKey if pKey is an integer and the number of chars of target 3 then pass keyDown end keyDown It's only to get you started: you will find you have probably to build a rawKeyDown handler to be more precise and manage the current selection (if the user selects a portion and wants to type in). Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. Le 18 juil. 05 à 17:32, David Burgun a écrit : I have the a number of fields in a card that have to be range checked, to do this i have the following code: on openField set the cpSaveTextOfMe to the text of me end openField on closeField if (the text of me 0) or (the text of me 999) then set the text of me to the cpSaveTextOfMe of me select the text of me beep end closeField There is also a Done Button that has this script: on mouseUp save this stack close this stack end mouseUp If I enter an invalid number and then click in another field, I get beep and the contents of the field are restored and all is well. However, if I enter an invalid number and then click the Done button, it looks like the mouseUp handler is run BEFORE the closeField handler. Since the value stored in the stack is the invalid data. Is this the correct action? If so, what is the best way to make this work so that bad values are not saved in the stack. I really don't want to have to validate all fields from the Done and other buttons on the card. So Smart Software For institutions, companies and associations Built-to-order applications: management, multimedia, internet, etc. Windows, Mac OS and Linux... With the French touch Free plugins and tutorials on my website Web sitehttp://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Phone33 (0)1 43 31 77 62 Mobile33 (0)6 20 74 50 86 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: embed/install font
On Jul 18, 2005, at 6:53 AM, Brad Borch wrote: I'm creating a presentation and I need to be sure the user has access to a Unicode font. I'd like to standardize on Bitstream's Vera font, which is free and very good. 1) Is there any way to access the font dynamically without installing it on the user's system? A while ago there was a thread Own fontsuite with standalone? Several authors referenced the EXT.dll as a way to dynamically access fonts on the PC. How is this done? Has anyone successfully employed this technique? 2) If I can't access it dynamically, how do I install it? I purchased InstallGadget, but that currently doesn't update the Windows registry upon installation. Any ideas on how to address this problem would be greatly appreciated. Brad, This is how I solve the problem: http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/ use-revolution/2004-April/036224.html Mark Talluto -- CANELA Software http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: External for running one instance on windows
Hi Trevor, This is great. I've been looking for a good solution to this problem for quite some time. I've been using a partial solution with the EXT.dll, but it doesn't always work. One question: Will this work on any version of Windows, or is it specific to, say, 2000/XP? Chris On Jul 16, 2005, at 4:14 PM, Trevor DeVore wrote: Hi people of the list, I put together an external this morning that you can use to limit your application to one running instance on Windows. It uses a mutex object on Windows which you can read about here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/ dllproc/base/using_mutex_objects.asp There is a readme with the archive but basically there are two handlers you use: get ewinRegisterApp(My_App_Unique_String) ewinUnregisterApp You can ewinRegisterApp(My_App_Unique_String) when your app first launches. If it returns true then there is only one instance of your app running. If it returns false then another app has registered the same string (in this case My_App_Unique_String) and you should quit. When you quit your app you call ewinUnregisterApp to release the mutex object you created with ewinRegisterApp(). Now you may be asking yourself what would happen if your app crashes. Would ewinRegisterApp() still return false? The answer is no, it would return true. Windows knows that the app that created the original mutex object has gone the way of all misbehaved software and it will gladly give you control of the orphaned mutex object. Anyway, I've tested this on Win XP so far and it seems to be working nicely. Note that for every time you call ewinRegisterApp () in one app you need to call ewinUnregisterApp in order for another app to be able to have ewinRegisterApp() return true. I may fix that, I may not. It doesn't really bother me. Anyway, you can download it at: http://www.mangomultimedia.com/download/revolution/enhancedwin/ EnhancedWin.zip There is also a command called ewinOpenURL in the external that will always do the right thing when trying to open a url or launch an email client on Windows. You may find that useful as well. If you have any questions or problems let me know. If you want the source code you can have that too. It was compiled with Visual C+ + .Net. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Multimedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally The Fluency Company http://www.readnaturally.com -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: External for running one instance on windows
This external is prolly a bit easier to use than the old way, but... There is a cross platform method for doing this, which has been discussed on this group. It has the convenience of checking to make sure that the first version is running, then if the first instance communicates back to the second instance that it is running, the second instance will shut down. It involves the use of ports, which can be a pain to use. Just FYI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Sheffield Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 12:16 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: External for running one instance on windows Hi Trevor, This is great. I've been looking for a good solution to this problem for quite some time. I've been using a partial solution with the EXT.dll, but it doesn't always work. One question: Will this work on any version of Windows, or is it specific to, say, 2000/XP? Chris On Jul 16, 2005, at 4:14 PM, Trevor DeVore wrote: Hi people of the list, I put together an external this morning that you can use to limit your application to one running instance on Windows. It uses a mutex object on Windows which you can read about here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/ dllproc/base/using_mutex_objects.asp There is a readme with the archive but basically there are two handlers you use: get ewinRegisterApp(My_App_Unique_String) ewinUnregisterApp You can ewinRegisterApp(My_App_Unique_String) when your app first launches. If it returns true then there is only one instance of your app running. If it returns false then another app has registered the same string (in this case My_App_Unique_String) and you should quit. When you quit your app you call ewinUnregisterApp to release the mutex object you created with ewinRegisterApp(). Now you may be asking yourself what would happen if your app crashes. Would ewinRegisterApp() still return false? The answer is no, it would return true. Windows knows that the app that created the original mutex object has gone the way of all misbehaved software and it will gladly give you control of the orphaned mutex object. Anyway, I've tested this on Win XP so far and it seems to be working nicely. Note that for every time you call ewinRegisterApp () in one app you need to call ewinUnregisterApp in order for another app to be able to have ewinRegisterApp() return true. I may fix that, I may not. It doesn't really bother me. Anyway, you can download it at: http://www.mangomultimedia.com/download/revolution/enhancedwin/ EnhancedWin.zip There is also a command called ewinOpenURL in the external that will always do the right thing when trying to open a url or launch an email client on Windows. You may find that useful as well. If you have any questions or problems let me know. If you want the source code you can have that too. It was compiled with Visual C+ + .Net. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Multimedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally The Fluency Company http://www.readnaturally.com -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: External for running one instance on windows
I tried that at one time but could never make it work right. Of course, that was back when I was still kind of new at Rev, so I probably wasn't doing something right. If Trevor's solution doesn't work for all versions of Windows, maybe I'll take another stab at doing it this other way. Chris On Jul 18, 2005, at 10:20 AM, Lynch, Jonathan wrote: This external is prolly a bit easier to use than the old way, but... There is a cross platform method for doing this, which has been discussed on this group. It has the convenience of checking to make sure that the first version is running, then if the first instance communicates back to the second instance that it is running, the second instance will shut down. It involves the use of ports, which can be a pain to use. Just FYI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Sheffield Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 12:16 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: External for running one instance on windows Hi Trevor, This is great. I've been looking for a good solution to this problem for quite some time. I've been using a partial solution with the EXT.dll, but it doesn't always work. One question: Will this work on any version of Windows, or is it specific to, say, 2000/XP? Chris On Jul 16, 2005, at 4:14 PM, Trevor DeVore wrote: Hi people of the list, I put together an external this morning that you can use to limit your application to one running instance on Windows. It uses a mutex object on Windows which you can read about here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/ dllproc/base/using_mutex_objects.asp There is a readme with the archive but basically there are two handlers you use: get ewinRegisterApp(My_App_Unique_String) ewinUnregisterApp You can ewinRegisterApp(My_App_Unique_String) when your app first launches. If it returns true then there is only one instance of your app running. If it returns false then another app has registered the same string (in this case My_App_Unique_String) and you should quit. When you quit your app you call ewinUnregisterApp to release the mutex object you created with ewinRegisterApp(). Now you may be asking yourself what would happen if your app crashes. Would ewinRegisterApp() still return false? The answer is no, it would return true. Windows knows that the app that created the original mutex object has gone the way of all misbehaved software and it will gladly give you control of the orphaned mutex object. Anyway, I've tested this on Win XP so far and it seems to be working nicely. Note that for every time you call ewinRegisterApp () in one app you need to call ewinUnregisterApp in order for another app to be able to have ewinRegisterApp() return true. I may fix that, I may not. It doesn't really bother me. Anyway, you can download it at: http://www.mangomultimedia.com/download/revolution/enhancedwin/ EnhancedWin.zip There is also a command called ewinOpenURL in the external that will always do the right thing when trying to open a url or launch an email client on Windows. You may find that useful as well. If you have any questions or problems let me know. If you want the source code you can have that too. It was compiled with Visual C+ + .Net. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Multimedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally The Fluency Company http://www.readnaturally.com -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally The Fluency Company http://www.readnaturally.com -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: External for running one instance on windows
Once I figured it out (with advice from the more experienced folks here), it worked great - but it was really a pain to work through. A convenient to use external like this would make doing this much easier - it is a great idea! I was using this for a program that runs in the background, and autolaunches on startup - thus it was essential that the second instance verify that the first instance was working. Otherwise, if your first instance gets hung up for some reason, you might have a hard time starting a working copy of the program. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Sheffield Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 12:29 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: External for running one instance on windows I tried that at one time but could never make it work right. Of course, that was back when I was still kind of new at Rev, so I probably wasn't doing something right. If Trevor's solution doesn't work for all versions of Windows, maybe I'll take another stab at doing it this other way. Chris On Jul 18, 2005, at 10:20 AM, Lynch, Jonathan wrote: This external is prolly a bit easier to use than the old way, but... There is a cross platform method for doing this, which has been discussed on this group. It has the convenience of checking to make sure that the first version is running, then if the first instance communicates back to the second instance that it is running, the second instance will shut down. It involves the use of ports, which can be a pain to use. Just FYI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Sheffield Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 12:16 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: External for running one instance on windows Hi Trevor, This is great. I've been looking for a good solution to this problem for quite some time. I've been using a partial solution with the EXT.dll, but it doesn't always work. One question: Will this work on any version of Windows, or is it specific to, say, 2000/XP? Chris On Jul 16, 2005, at 4:14 PM, Trevor DeVore wrote: Hi people of the list, I put together an external this morning that you can use to limit your application to one running instance on Windows. It uses a mutex object on Windows which you can read about here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/ dllproc/base/using_mutex_objects.asp There is a readme with the archive but basically there are two handlers you use: get ewinRegisterApp(My_App_Unique_String) ewinUnregisterApp You can ewinRegisterApp(My_App_Unique_String) when your app first launches. If it returns true then there is only one instance of your app running. If it returns false then another app has registered the same string (in this case My_App_Unique_String) and you should quit. When you quit your app you call ewinUnregisterApp to release the mutex object you created with ewinRegisterApp(). Now you may be asking yourself what would happen if your app crashes. Would ewinRegisterApp() still return false? The answer is no, it would return true. Windows knows that the app that created the original mutex object has gone the way of all misbehaved software and it will gladly give you control of the orphaned mutex object. Anyway, I've tested this on Win XP so far and it seems to be working nicely. Note that for every time you call ewinRegisterApp () in one app you need to call ewinUnregisterApp in order for another app to be able to have ewinRegisterApp() return true. I may fix that, I may not. It doesn't really bother me. Anyway, you can download it at: http://www.mangomultimedia.com/download/revolution/enhancedwin/ EnhancedWin.zip There is also a command called ewinOpenURL in the external that will always do the right thing when trying to open a url or launch an email client on Windows. You may find that useful as well. If you have any questions or problems let me know. If you want the source code you can have that too. It was compiled with Visual C+ + .Net. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Multimedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally The Fluency Company http://www.readnaturally.com -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list
Screen fonts great in Rev, bad in Word- why?
Why do screen fonts look so good in Rev and Pages and so bad in Word and AppleWorks? Even with Font smoothing turned on in AppleWorks Times still looks terrible... hardly useable. I'm using OS X Tiger. I also set the system font smoothing pref to flat panel. What am I missing? Thanks Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Problem with Save As Standalone App
Hello, I am having problem with Save As Standalone App. I have a Rev file (about 400,000 KB) when I save it as standalone app (making an exe file). It took a long time to finish. The exe file size is only 1,620 KB. I could not open it. I don't know what's wrong. Could someone help me with this? Thank you ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Need a revolution Consultant/mentor
I am a new runtime revolution user looking for a consultant to help me design and build software to run my manufacturing business. My company manufactures lawn mower accessories (you can see our products at http://www.acceleratorindustries.com/ ). We are located in Bellevue, Washington. I have a good deal of experience programming in Hypercard, and have done enough dabbling in revolution to feel comfortable with the environment and the transcript language. I need someone who would like to work with me on an ongoing basis, and who I would be personally compatible with. I would like to set up a system using runtime as a front end to a database. If you are interested please call me or reply off list (I am not currently subscribed to the general list). Peter Andonian 425-562-3013 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Revolution unbooted
Hi Please excuse my intrusion. I have been lurking around the edge of the runrev community for a little while. I have been playing around with runrev on windows/linux and I am very impressed. I really think this product could have some potential in my business. I have a small query though Can anybody comment on the stability of a runrev app (connected through ODBC to SQL Server) running on a linux/windows box for many many days without rebooting? Are memory leaks a problem? I am looking into developing something for a client which could potential be left running for a considerable number of days. All help gratefully appreciated :) Please free to email me privately if you have any specific advice that may be OT on the list. Regards Seamus Brady -- seamus brady managing director corvideon software consultants -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.corvideon.ie 086 8497887 -- simplicity, reliability and value for money -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
How to place the window in the center of the screen?
Placing the window in the middle of the screen is a simple script: on openstack set the loc of this stack to the screenloc end openstack Stephen Goldberg From: Ban Nguyen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: place the window in the middle of screen? To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com =20 Hello, =20 How to place the window in the center of the screen?=A0 Please help =20 =20 =20 HTMLFONT FACE=3Darial,helveticaHTMLFONT COLOR=3D#00 FACE=3DGen= eva FAMILY=3DSANSSERIF SIZE=3D2Placing the window in the middle of the= screen is a simple script:BR BR on openstackBR set the loc of this stack to the screenlocBR end openstackBR BR Stephen GoldbergBR BR BR BLOCKQUOTE CITE STYLE=3DBORDER-LEFT: #ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;=20= MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px TYPE=3DCITE/FONTFONT COLOR=3D#0= 0 FACE=3DGeneva FAMILY=3DSANSSERIF SIZE=3D2From: Ban Nguyen l= t;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;BR Subject: place the window in the middle of screen?BR To: How to use Revolution lt;use-revolution@lists.runrev.comBR BR Hello,BR BR How to place the window in the center of the screen?=A0 Please helpBR BR BR /BLOCKQUOTE/FONTFONT COLOR=3D#00 FACE=3DGeneva FAMILY=3DSANSSE= RIF SIZE=3D2BR BR /FONTFONT COLOR=3D#00 FACE=3DGeneva FAMILY=3DSANSSERIF SIZE=3D= 2/FONT/HTML ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
What is 'Constellation' ?
Slow on the uptake as usual; was intrigued by Jon's - 'using Constellation' - what is 'Constellation' ??? Sincerely, Richmond __ See Mathewson's software at: http://members.maclaunch.com/richmond/default.html ___ --- The Think Different Store http://www.thinkdifferentstore.com/ For All Your Mac Gear --- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Problem with Editable Fields
You can also try this in the done button: On MouseUp Send DoThisScript to me in 0 seconds End MouseUp Then put the original mouseup script into a DoThisScript handler in the button. This will ensure that the script runs after other handlers. However, it seems odd that mouseup would be occuring before closefield. Is it possible that your done button is non-focusing? This would mean that when you press the button, the focus never leaves the field you were in, thus not sending a closefield message. If this is the case, you need to make sure your button is focusable. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Chatonet Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 11:42 AM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Problem with Editable Fields Hi Dave, May be another approach, more ergonomic, could help you: Just allow numbers to be typed into your field with a generic handler like the following: on keyDown pKey if pKey is an integer and the number of chars of target 3 then pass keyDown end keyDown It's only to get you started: you will find you have probably to build a rawKeyDown handler to be more precise and manage the current selection (if the user selects a portion and wants to type in). Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. Le 18 juil. 05 à 17:32, David Burgun a écrit : I have the a number of fields in a card that have to be range checked, to do this i have the following code: on openField set the cpSaveTextOfMe to the text of me end openField on closeField if (the text of me 0) or (the text of me 999) then set the text of me to the cpSaveTextOfMe of me select the text of me beep end closeField There is also a Done Button that has this script: on mouseUp save this stack close this stack end mouseUp If I enter an invalid number and then click in another field, I get beep and the contents of the field are restored and all is well. However, if I enter an invalid number and then click the Done button, it looks like the mouseUp handler is run BEFORE the closeField handler. Since the value stored in the stack is the invalid data. Is this the correct action? If so, what is the best way to make this work so that bad values are not saved in the stack. I really don't want to have to validate all fields from the Done and other buttons on the card. So Smart Software For institutions, companies and associations Built-to-order applications: management, multimedia, internet, etc. Windows, Mac OS and Linux... With the French touch Free plugins and tutorials on my website Web sitehttp://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Phone33 (0)1 43 31 77 62 Mobile33 (0)6 20 74 50 86 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: What is 'Constellation' ?
Just follow this link: http://www.daniels-mara.com/products/ Dennis On Jul 13, 2005, at 11:58 AM, Mathewson wrote: Slow on the uptake as usual; was intrigued by Jon's - 'using Constellation' - what is 'Constellation' ??? Sincerely, Richmond __ See Mathewson's software at: http://members.maclaunch.com/richmond/default.html ___ --- The Think Different Store http://www.thinkdifferentstore.com/ For All Your Mac Gear --- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: embed/install font
Mark, I put the installer created by IC into a custom property in my rev app. My rev app spits out the installer Thanks for the pointer. I've done a fair bit of work in Director, Flash, etc. A long time ago I did Hypercard work. I'm sure with a little bit of guidance I'll get custom properties, but if you could just point me to a brief explanation of how this works and how to suck up and spit out (as I've heard the process referred to in some posts) something like another file or executable, I'd appreciate it. Brad -- Mark Talluto wrote: On Jul 18, 2005, at 6:53 AM, Brad Borch wrote: I'm creating a presentation and I need to be sure the user has access to a Unicode font. I'd like to standardize on Bitstream's Vera font, which is free and very good. 1) Is there any way to access the font dynamically without installing it on the user's system? A while ago there was a thread Own fontsuite with standalone? Several authors referenced the EXT.dll as a way to dynamically access fonts on the PC. How is this done? Has anyone successfully employed this technique? 2) If I can't access it dynamically, how do I install it? I purchased InstallGadget, but that currently doesn't update the Windows registry upon installation. Any ideas on how to address this problem would be greatly appreciated. Brad, This is how I solve the problem: http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/ use-revolution/2004-April/036224.html Mark Talluto ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: embed/install font
Brad. There are lots of resources. The docs are actually pretty good on this point. I wrote an eBook on the subject (it's for sale at the Rev online store as Chapter 21 for, I think, $5). I also gave a free online conference on the subject a while back. You can download the stack with examples and the chat log from the Rev site for nothing. On Jul 18, 2005, at 10:11 AM, Brad Borch wrote: Mark, I put the installer created by IC into a custom property in my rev app. My rev app spits out the installer Thanks for the pointer. I've done a fair bit of work in Director, Flash, etc. A long time ago I did Hypercard work. I'm sure with a little bit of guidance I'll get custom properties, but if you could just point me to a brief explanation of how this works and how to suck up and spit out (as I've heard the process referred to in some posts) something like another file or executable, I'd appreciate it. Brad Dan Shafer, Revolution Consultant and Author http://www.shafermedia.com Get my book, Revolution: Software at the Speed of Thought From http://www.revolutionpros.com, Click My Stuff ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution unbooted
Mark: I run my Windows XP box (and ran my Windows 2000 box) for 1-2 weeks at a time. Eventually, something becomes unstable, and I have to re-boot, but often I only have to re-bot because I install a patch. I think your pessimism about Windows (at least in this regard) is a bit excessive. :) Jon Mark Wieder wrote: Seamus- Tuesday, July 12, 2005, 9:57:10 AM, you wrote: SB Can anybody comment on the stability of a runrev app (connected through SB ODBC to SQL Server) running on a linux/windows box for many many days SB without rebooting? Are memory leaks a problem? I am looking into SB developing something for a client which could potential be left running SB for a considerable number of days. I would *never* run a windows box for several days without rebooting. Windows needs to be rebooted regularly in order to rebuild its driver database, maintain the registry, etc. That's part of why it takes so long to boot up. If you prevent this from taking place the system can get seriously messed up. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: embed/install font
Thanks Chip, I'll see if I can get this going however, I can't get some of the customers to agree to loading anything at all on their machines, yeah, go figure !! I know I sound like a worn out record, but I really don't have a good answer when they say to me but we didn't have to do this with your ToolBook projects Thanks again, Bob... Bob, Here's how I would probably go about this on XP.. 1) Research what registry entries are changed in Windows when installing a TrueType font 2) Suck up the font into your app: set the uMyCustomFont of this stack to URL (binfile:C:/myfont.ttf) 3) On startup spit it back out: a) find the specialFolder(36) which gives you the current Windows directory and append it with /Fonts: put specialFolder(36) /Fonts/ into tFontPath check to see if your font exists put myfont.ttf after tFontPath if there is not a file tFontPath then put the uMyCustomFont of this stack into URL (binfile: tFontPath) -- SET REGISTRY STUFF IF NECESSARY end if then check to see if you need a restart, or you can just start using the font. As mentioned, I believe there's a DLL somewhere which may make this easier, but I don't know where. -Chipp ~~~ _ Take advantage of powerful junk e-mail filters built on patented Microsoft® SmartScreen Technology. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
XMLRPC Authentication
Looking into sending xmlrpc calls that require basic http authentication... any ideas as it is not documented in the xmlrpc create request, but is AFAIK part of the libUrl stack... just can't find any docs at the moment... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Icons for plugins [2]
Bob Maybe I mis-read your request... Upgrade to version 5 of the Scripter's Scrapbook as the icon contains all the required sizes including 32x32. /H The Scripter's Scrapbook www.FlexibleLearning.com/ssbk.htm - I'm using Chip's incredibly wonderful altPlugin to manage a bunch of other great plugins, but a lot of the plugins don't seem top come with a 32 x 32 pixels icon by default. Are there any available for specifically RevNet, Color Picker, Resources Picker, and Scripters Scrapbook or do I have to continue to generate my own ? Tnx, Bob... Bob Earp - White Rock, BC - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Icons for plugins
Bob I cannot help you with RevNet, ColorPicker and Rersources Picker, but the icon set for the Scripter's Scrapbook is available at www.FlexibleLearning.com/ssbk/ssbk5.ico and it includes 32x32. Let me know if you need anything else. /H - I'm using Chip's incredibly wonderful altPlugin to manage a bunch of other great plugins, but a lot of the plugins don't seem top come with a 32 x 32 pixels icon by default. Are there any available for specifically RevNet, Color Picker, Resources Picker, and Scripters Scrapbook or do I have to continue to generate my own ? Tnx, Bob... Bob Earp - White Rock, BC - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Icons for plugins
Hi Bob, Sorry as for my plugins: they don't come with a specific icon :-( But if you create some, I would be very pleased to see them :-) Le 18 juil. 05 à 21:11, Bob Earp a écrit : I'm using Chip's incredibly wonderful altPlugin to manage a bunch of other great plugins, but a lot of the plugins don't seem top come with a 32 x 32 pixels icon by default. Are there any available for specifically RevNet, Color Picker, Resources Picker, and Scripters Scrapbook or do I have to continue to generate my own ? Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. So Smart Software For institutions, companies and associations Built-to-order applications: management, multimedia, internet, etc. Windows, Mac OS and Linux... With the French touch Free plugins and tutorials on my website Web sitehttp://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Phone33 (0)1 43 31 77 62 Mobile33 (0)6 20 74 50 86 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: embed/install font
Bob Earp wrote: I know I sound like a worn out record, but I really don't have a good answer when they say to me but we didn't have to do this with your ToolBook projects So it goes when a product is made by a co-founder of an OS vendor who doesn't publish all of their APIs. ;) -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Problem with Save As Standalone App
On 7/18/05 11:52 AM, Ban Nguyen wrote: Hello, I am having problem with Save As Standalone App. I have a Rev file (about 400,000 KB) when I save it as standalone app (making an exe file). It took a long time to finish. The exe file size is only 1,620 KB. I could not open it. I don't know what's wrong. Could someone help me with this? Thank you We don't have enough information. Do you get an error message? Did you enter all the settings in the Standalone Application Settings (in the File menu) before you did the build? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Scripting conference stack available - Script Anatomy 2
Oops; forgot to post the time and date for our next conference: 1122134400 To convert this number, paste this into the message box: get 1122134400;convert it to system date and time;put it I love this seconds stuff. :) On 7/18/05 12:49 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: The scripting conference stack for this coming weekend is now available for download from the usual place: http://support.runrev.com/scriptingconferences/ This conference topic is Script Anatomy 2, presented by the capable Frank Leahy. It discusses the difference between handlers and functions, where to place scripts in your stack, writing reuseable code, and more. Download the stack in preparation for the conference, and we'll see you this weekend. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: development tools question
There's also DeskView, part of the devolution toolkit, shown in the middle of the screen shot here: http://www.fourthworld.com/products/devolution/index.html DeskView not only shows small proxie images of all of your open windows, but right-clicking on any of them lets you quickly change stack mode, save, edit scripts, toggle decorations, and more devolution is free to use, and support is optionally available with a modest annual fee. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation __ Rev tools and more: http://www.fourthworld.com/rev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: embed/install font
I need this BIG time, and it mnay be a show stopper form me moving a whole mess of customers form ToolBook (where this isa breeze to do) to Rev. At RevConWest Andre Garcia said that he thought he had a way of doing this by using a custom property to store the font, but I haven't heard from him since then. Bob Earp - White Rock, BC. I remember the days long ago in Hypercard where you could install a font as a resource in a stack, and it 'just worked', even though we were warned not to for some reason. sqb I'm creating a presentation and I need to be sure the user has access to a Unicode font. I'd like to standardize on Bitstream's Vera font, which is free and very good. 1) Is there any way to access the font dynamically without installing it on the user's system? A while ago there was a thread Own fontsuite with standalone? Several authors referenced the EXT.dll as a way to dynamically access fonts on the PC. How is this done? Has anyone successfully employed this technique? 2) If I can't access it dynamically, how do I install it? I purchased InstallGadget, but that currently doesn't update the Windows registry upon installation. Any ideas on how to address this problem would be greatly appreciated. Brad _ Powerful Parental Controls Let your child discover the best the Internet has to offer. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: External for running one instance on windows
Trevor- Sunday, July 17, 2005, 12:25:01 PM, you wrote: TD I don't know what a critical section is so it made the decision much TD easier :-) g As I understand it, they're almost the same thing - mutexes work with multiple threads in an single application, critical section objects work with multiple threads in a single process. It doesn't help things any that critical section is also used to refer to the code governed by a mutex. Here's a fairly concise, albeit microsoftian, writeup: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dllproc/base/critical_section_objects.asp -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Problem with Editable Fields
Feel free to send your stack to me, and I will check it out and see if I see anything obvious. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Burgun Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 1:50 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: RE: Problem with Editable Fields Hi, Tried what you suggested, the invalid values still gets saved. I know the closeField gets called because I hear the beep. I put a breakpoint on both all three handler, mouseUp, NewMouseUp and closeField and when the done key is pressed it enters the mouseUp handler BEFORE closeField, so the old value gets saved. It pot luck if the closeField function gets called at all in the case, I am guess that it depends on timing, if the script gets run before the close stack command is issued. This really is silly, what I want to do is so straight forward, I just cannot understand why it is so difficult in RunRev? Am I missing something or is it impossible to range check a field without jumping thru hoops? Thanks a lot Dave You can also try this in the done button: On MouseUp Send DoThisScript to me in 0 seconds End MouseUp Then put the original mouseup script into a DoThisScript handler in the button. This will ensure that the script runs after other handlers. However, it seems odd that mouseup would be occuring before closefield. Is it possible that your done button is non-focusing? This would mean that when you press the button, the focus never leaves the field you were in, thus not sending a closefield message. If this is the case, you need to make sure your button is focusable. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Chatonet Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 11:42 AM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Problem with Editable Fields Hi Dave, May be another approach, more ergonomic, could help you: Just allow numbers to be typed into your field with a generic handler like the following: on keyDown pKey if pKey is an integer and the number of chars of target 3 then pass keyDown end keyDown It's only to get you started: you will find you have probably to build a rawKeyDown handler to be more precise and manage the current selection (if the user selects a portion and wants to type in). Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. Le 18 juil. 05 à 17:32, David Burgun a écrit : I have the a number of fields in a card that have to be range checked, to do this i have the following code: on openField set the cpSaveTextOfMe to the text of me end openField on closeField if (the text of me 0) or (the text of me 999) then set the text of me to the cpSaveTextOfMe of me select the text of me beep end closeField There is also a Done Button that has this script: on mouseUp save this stack close this stack end mouseUp If I enter an invalid number and then click in another field, I get beep and the contents of the field are restored and all is well. However, if I enter an invalid number and then click the Done button, it looks like the mouseUp handler is run BEFORE the closeField handler. Since the value stored in the stack is the invalid data. Is this the correct action? If so, what is the best way to make this work so that bad values are not saved in the stack. I really don't want to have to validate all fields from the Done and other buttons on the card. So Smart Software For institutions, companies and associations Built-to-order applications: management, multimedia, internet, etc. Windows, Mac OS and Linux... With the French touch Free plugins and tutorials on my website Web sitehttp://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Phone33 (0)1 43 31 77 62 Mobile33 (0)6 20 74 50 86 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your
RE: Problem with Editable Fields
Hi, Tried what you suggested, the invalid values still gets saved. I know the closeField gets called because I hear the beep. I put a breakpoint on both all three handler, mouseUp, NewMouseUp and closeField and when the done key is pressed it enters the mouseUp handler BEFORE closeField, so the old value gets saved. It pot luck if the closeField function gets called at all in the case, I am guess that it depends on timing, if the script gets run before the close stack command is issued. This really is silly, what I want to do is so straight forward, I just cannot understand why it is so difficult in RunRev? Am I missing something or is it impossible to range check a field without jumping thru hoops? Thanks a lot Dave You can also try this in the done button: On MouseUp Send DoThisScript to me in 0 seconds End MouseUp Then put the original mouseup script into a DoThisScript handler in the button. This will ensure that the script runs after other handlers. However, it seems odd that mouseup would be occuring before closefield. Is it possible that your done button is non-focusing? This would mean that when you press the button, the focus never leaves the field you were in, thus not sending a closefield message. If this is the case, you need to make sure your button is focusable. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Chatonet Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 11:42 AM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Problem with Editable Fields Hi Dave, May be another approach, more ergonomic, could help you: Just allow numbers to be typed into your field with a generic handler like the following: on keyDown pKey if pKey is an integer and the number of chars of target 3 then pass keyDown end keyDown It's only to get you started: you will find you have probably to build a rawKeyDown handler to be more precise and manage the current selection (if the user selects a portion and wants to type in). Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. Le 18 juil. 05 à 17:32, David Burgun a écrit : I have the a number of fields in a card that have to be range checked, to do this i have the following code: on openField set the cpSaveTextOfMe to the text of me end openField on closeField if (the text of me 0) or (the text of me 999) then set the text of me to the cpSaveTextOfMe of me select the text of me beep end closeField There is also a Done Button that has this script: on mouseUp save this stack close this stack end mouseUp If I enter an invalid number and then click in another field, I get beep and the contents of the field are restored and all is well. However, if I enter an invalid number and then click the Done button, it looks like the mouseUp handler is run BEFORE the closeField handler. Since the value stored in the stack is the invalid data. Is this the correct action? If so, what is the best way to make this work so that bad values are not saved in the stack. I really don't want to have to validate all fields from the Done and other buttons on the card. So Smart Software For institutions, companies and associations Built-to-order applications: management, multimedia, internet, etc. Windows, Mac OS and Linux... With the French touch Free plugins and tutorials on my website Web sitehttp://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Phone33 (0)1 43 31 77 62 Mobile33 (0)6 20 74 50 86 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Scripting conference stack available - Script Anatomy 2
The scripting conference stack for this coming weekend is now available for download from the usual place: http://support.runrev.com/scriptingconferences/ This conference topic is Script Anatomy 2, presented by the capable Frank Leahy. It discusses the difference between handlers and functions, where to place scripts in your stack, writing reuseable code, and more. Download the stack in preparation for the conference, and we'll see you this weekend. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: XMLRPC Authentication
On Jul 18, 2005, at 3:47 PM, david bovill wrote: Looking into sending xmlrpc calls that require basic http authentication... any ideas as it is not documented in the xmlrpc create request, but is AFAIK part of the libUrl stack... just can't find any docs at the moment... David, many ways to do that David, one is to script the basic auth header yourself using the set httpheader property. it's fairly easy, just get your username and password and to like this: put the cusername of this stack : the cpassword of this stack into tToken put format(Authorization: Basic %s, base64encode(tToken)) into tAuthToken set the httpheaders to tAuthToken then call your method. other more professional ways, refer to libURL Real Docs at http:// support.runrev.com/resources/liburlrealdocs.html cheers andre ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Naming conventions
Dennis- Sunday, July 17, 2005, 10:31:45 AM, you wrote: DB Is there any advantage to putting the main block of comments outside DB the handler vs inside the handler? I think it looks cleaner having them outside, but no, there's no advantage other than just your own preference. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: embed/install font
On Jul 18, 2005, at 10:11 AM, Brad Borch wrote: Mark, I put the installer created by IC into a custom property in my rev app. My rev app spits out the installer Thanks for the pointer. I've done a fair bit of work in Director, Flash, etc. A long time ago I did Hypercard work. I'm sure with a little bit of guidance I'll get custom properties, but if you could just point me to a brief explanation of how this works and how to suck up and spit out (as I've heard the process referred to in some posts) something like another file or executable, I'd appreciate it. Brad, There is a file called CS Fonts Installer on RevNet. You can find RevNet in the plugins for Revolution. It will get you started. The thing to remember is: 1. Mac fonts can be written to the fonts folder of the OS without using a third party installer. Thus, they are super easy to work with. 2. Win fonts need to be installed by a third party installer like the one I use from www.clickteam.com The reason is that the installer will setup the registry appropriately for you. This can also be done from within Rev, but I have not spent the time to work it out. Thus, I suck up the installer created by the clickteam product and place that into a custom property. I then write that custom property back out to the user's hard drive, run the installer, and delete the installer when done all from Rev. Works very well. The file I have on RevNet is a bit old, but easier to read than the version I am currently using. If you want the newer version, just let me know. It deals with all sorts of things besides fonts, but is not as use friendly at first. Keep writing back if you have any questions. Mark Talluto -- CANELA Software http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Icons for plugins
I'm using Chip's incredibly wonderful altPlugin to manage a bunch of other great plugins, but a lot of the plugins don't seem top come with a 32 x 32 pixels icon by default. Are there any available for specifically RevNet, Color Picker, Resources Picker, and Scripters Scrapbook or do I have to continue to generate my own ? Tnx, Bob... Bob Earp - White Rock, BC _ Take advantage of powerful junk e-mail filters built on patented Microsoft® SmartScreen Technology. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Problem with Editable Fields
--- David Burgun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Tried what you suggested, the invalid values still gets saved. I know the closeField gets called because I hear the beep. I put a breakpoint on both all three handler, mouseUp, NewMouseUp and closeField and when the done key is pressed it enters the mouseUp handler BEFORE closeField, so the old value gets saved. It pot luck if the closeField function gets called at all in the case, I am guess that it depends on timing, if the script gets run before the close stack command is issued. This really is silly, what I want to do is so straight forward, I just cannot understand why it is so difficult in RunRev? Am I missing something or is it impossible to range check a field without jumping thru hoops? Thanks a lot Dave Hi Dave, Try putting this at the front of your mouseUp handler in the button script: -- select empty -- This will trigger the closeField before the stuff in the button happens ; you may have to set a custom property or such to check if no error occured. All this is due to the fact that on Mac, unlike on Windows and Unix, buttons cannot receive the keyboard focus (by default) so the focus remains with the field. So it's your job to trigger the closeField. Annoying, perhaps, but that's the way the cookie crumbles... Jan Schenkel. Quartam - Tools for Revolution http://www.quartam.com = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: embed/install font
On 7/18/05 10:39 AM, Stephen Barncard wrote: I remember the days long ago in Hypercard where you could install a font as a resource in a stack, and it 'just worked', even though we were warned not to for some reason. The reason was a complete and comprehensive system crash if a print job was in the queue and the user closed the stack. Not recommended. If you never printed from the stack, it was okay. I don't think OS X even allows embedded fonts any more (anyone know?) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: What is 'Constellation' ?
I wonder why it took 5 days for this message to reach me (via Rev)?!? In any event, Constellation is a new editor and property editor that Jerry Daniels is writing. Check it out at http://www.daniels-mara.com/products/constellation.htm :) Jon Mathewson wrote: Slow on the uptake as usual; was intrigued by Jon's - 'using Constellation' - what is 'Constellation' ??? Sincerely, Richmond __ See Mathewson's software at: http://members.maclaunch.com/richmond/default.html ___ --- The Think Different Store http://www.thinkdifferentstore.com/ For All Your Mac Gear --- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Screen fonts great in Rev, bad in Word- why?
On 18 Jul 2005, at 17:38, Mark Swindell wrote: Why do screen fonts look so good in Rev and Pages and so bad in Word and AppleWorks? Even with Font smoothing turned on in AppleWorks Times still looks terrible... hardly useable. I'm using OS X Tiger. I also set the system font smoothing pref to flat panel. What am I missing? My memory's a bit rusty here, but I think that AppleWorks doesn't use the Quartz font rendering (or whatever it's called). This was added to Rev (then Metacard??) shortly after OS X was released. There used to be a third-party System Preference thingy called Silk that allowed this to be enabled for apps that didn't support the new OS X font rendering. I know it worked well for AppleWorks. I'm not sure if Silk still works in Tiger. Cheers Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
How to customize the scroll bar, progress bar, and slider bar?
Hello everyone, Is the anyway to customize the look of scroll bar, progress bar, and slider bar? I have been searching the list but have not come across to any tutorials? Does anyone know please help? Thank you ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: embed/install font
Bob, Here's how I would probably go about this on XP.. 1) Research what registry entries are changed in Windows when installing a TrueType font 2) Suck up the font into your app: set the uMyCustomFont of this stack to URL (binfile:C:/myfont.ttf) 3) On startup spit it back out: a) find the specialFolder(36) which gives you the current Windows directory and append it with /Fonts: put specialFolder(36) /Fonts/ into tFontPath check to see if your font exists put myfont.ttf after tFontPath if there is not a file tFontPath then put the uMyCustomFont of this stack into URL (binfile: tFontPath) -- SET REGISTRY STUFF IF NECESSARY end if then check to see if you need a restart, or you can just start using the font. As mentioned, I believe there's a DLL somewhere which may make this easier, but I don't know where. -Chipp Bob Earp wrote: I need this BIG time, and it mnay be a show stopper form me moving a whole mess of customers form ToolBook (where this isa breeze to do) to Rev. At RevConWest Andre Garcia said that he thought he had a way of doing this by using a custom property to store the font, but I haven't heard from him since then. Bob Earp - White Rock, BC. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution unbooted
Seamus- Tuesday, July 12, 2005, 9:57:10 AM, you wrote: SB Can anybody comment on the stability of a runrev app (connected through SB ODBC to SQL Server) running on a linux/windows box for many many days SB without rebooting? Are memory leaks a problem? I am looking into SB developing something for a client which could potential be left running SB for a considerable number of days. I would *never* run a windows box for several days without rebooting. Windows needs to be rebooted regularly in order to rebuild its driver database, maintain the registry, etc. That's part of why it takes so long to boot up. If you prevent this from taking place the system can get seriously messed up. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Problem with Save As Standalone App
Hello, I am having problem with Save As Standalone App. I have a Rev file (about 400,000 KB) when I save it as standalone app (making an exe file). It took a long time to finish. The exe file size is only 1,620 KB. I could not open it. I don't know what's wrong. Could someone help me with this? Thank you ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to customize the scroll bar, progress bar, and slider bar?
Hi Ban, actually there was a thread quite recently. You will need to roll your own Scrollbar to customize it. Look at this thread: http://mail.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2005-July/062687.html Download Klaus stack. You also find a scrollbar with a proportional thumb in my userspace in Revonline: User: Malte Stack: propscroll Cheers, malte -- ArcadeEngine prepare to WOW your audience within minutes http://www.runrev.com/section/revselect/arcadeengine http://www.derbrill.com/arcadeengine/forum ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Jacque's Great!
I've retained Jacque (as in J. Landman Gay) as a Rev consultant, on a per-hour basis, on and off over the past few months. The job is pretty much done now. Not only did she prepare my HC stacks for transition to Rev, she also helped me to learn to fly on my own wings in Rev. She was patient and resourceful. My stacks have grown quite complex over the years, since I wrote the first simple one in HC 1.0. Because I'm a self-taught do-it-yourself end-user, you can imagine all the bad scripting practices to be found in my stacks. Complex plus bad scripting practices = big headaches for the consultant. You can imagine. Anyway, she did a great job, technically, while patiently suggesting better scripting practices, and otherwise treating me nice. The stacks are all very stable, now. She was willing to work on my stacks herself, or to be available as a consultant by email when I came across stuff I couldn't fix. We did some of each. I don't really know what the going rate is, but her fees seem quite reasonable. The days I posted dumb questions on the list -- those weren't her fault. That happened either before I retained her, or on the rare days she wasn't available by email and I was impatient about fixing some problem. (BTW, the debugger anomaly, discussed last week, if anyone remembers it, turned out to be a bug. It will only debug a bg script on card 1 of the background. I built a fresh, clean stack in 2.6.1 to confirm it. It's been posted on BZ. That one wasn't dumb, contrary to my own self-doubt.) I guess other folks on this list also earn their daily bread as self-employed X-talk consultants. I don't want to diminish their ability by comparison. Judging by their messages on the list, they know their stuff, too. This is just one endorsement for Jacque, from one grateful client. Cheers, Tim Miller --awww, what the heck-- Timothy Miller, Ph.D. Clinical Psychologist Stockton, CA ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: embed/install font
Hi Bob, Y'know I'm pretty sure there's a way to install fonts w/out putting them in the fonts folder. I know Adboe does it this way, and I've seen utilities that do the same...perhaps it a function of the registry. In anycase, I suppose you could always 'install and deinstall' a font at the beginning and end of your program execution. That way your users would never know about it. best, Chipp Bob Earp wrote: Thanks Chip, I'll see if I can get this going however, I can't get some of the customers to agree to loading anything at all on their machines, yeah, go figure !! I know I sound like a worn out record, but I really don't have a good answer when they say to me but we didn't have to do this with your ToolBook projects ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution unbooted
Mark, I concur with Jon. I regularly use 3 separate Windows XP machines, and multiple programs on each and never find the NEED TO reboot them, other than for service patches and app installs. best, Chipp Jon wrote: Mark: I run my Windows XP box (and ran my Windows 2000 box) for 1-2 weeks at a time. Eventually, something becomes unstable, and I have to re-boot, but often I only have to re-bot because I install a patch. I think your pessimism about Windows (at least in this regard) is a bit excessive. :) Jon Mark Wieder wrote: I would *never* run a windows box for several days without rebooting. Windows needs to be rebooted regularly in order to rebuild its driver database, maintain the registry, etc. That's part of why it takes so long to boot up. If you prevent this from taking place the system can get seriously messed up. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: development tools question
Yes, DeskView was the inspiration for 'miniMe' (the plugin I don't distribute). Richard and I were representing RR at a recent Apple WorldWide developer conference, and he showed it to me in beta state. It was so cool I ended up writing a similar plugin that evening in my hotel. I think Deskview has actually more functionality as well. I highly recommend it! :-) -Chipp Richard Gaskin wrote: There's also DeskView, part of the devolution toolkit, shown in the middle of the screen shot here: http://www.fourthworld.com/products/devolution/index.html DeskView not only shows small proxie images of all of your open windows, but right-clicking on any of them lets you quickly change stack mode, save, edit scripts, toggle decorations, and more devolution is free to use, and support is optionally available with a modest annual fee. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Jacque's Great!
Amen to that, brother. I've hired Jacque myself in the past, and recently recommended her to a client whose work I'd love to do but things are just too busy here right now to do it well. She's always done a great job and has a rare gift for communication as well, offering good feedback on topics that might be difficult for anyone else but from her it's always well recieved and highly productive. In fact, if there's any reason I'm at all diplomatic on my better days, I owe at least some of that to her feedback over the years. :) The only thing that mystifies me about Jacque is how she's able to take such good care of so many people and then also find the time to take care of so many more with the online scripting conference series. releasing balloons that read Hurray for Jacque -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Jacque's Great!
On Jul 18, 2005, at 8:23 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: releasing balloons that read Hurray for Jacque I want one! Jacque is great and that is one of the reasons I like this list so much, it's a place where consultants on the same niche praise each other with no regrets or competition!!! :D Many cheers to Jacque! Andre ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Jacque's Great!
Andre Garzia wrote: On Jul 18, 2005, at 8:23 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: releasing balloons that read Hurray for Jacque I want one! Jacque is great and that is one of the reasons I like this list so much, it's a place where consultants on the same niche praise each other with no regrets or competition!!! :D It's also a testimony to the good marketing from Kevin, Rod, and the others at RunRev. As their user base grows most full-time Rev consultants I know are booked many months ahead with lots of interesting work. These days there's plenty of work to go around. Let's just hope Rev doesn't become so popular that we get commoditized like VB and Java programmers ;) It's a good thing for future Rev scripters that I don't own the company: it's such a competitive advantage for our clients that I'd stop selling it and make it a private club for existing customers only. :) -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Look and Feel, Metal texture -- Windows questions
Hello! I'm using Dreamcard in Windows XP, and have been trying the various options under Look and Feel in the View menu. I'm not sure what some of the options are supposed to look like, but I'm not really seeing much difference after choosing Mac OS Platinum Emulated. Am I not understanding what this menu option is supposed to do? Is it supposed to cause my project to take on a Mac-like appearance, so I can make sure my cross-platform visual design bases are covered? The only difference I see is a slight 3D-ing of the edges of some of the controls. Does this sound right? Shouldn't it be a much more drastic difference? I'm also not clear on what the Metal texture checkbox in the stack inspector is supposed to be doing -- it just flashes the project's window, but doesn't seem to change anything, that I can see. What effect is it supposed to have? I've just started with Dreamcard for Windows, after having used HyperCard extensively many years ago, so many apologies if this is a dumb newbie question! :-) Thanks! CJ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
a maze-game stack?
Hello List, My space invaders stack now done (oh! how I wish arcadeEngine had come out just a couple of weeks earlier!), it's now onto the next game: a maze game stack. In this game, language students have a birds-eye view of a 2D maze. They then hear a sound (a phoneme), after which they begin to manoeuver an object thru the maze lanes and onto a goal-area. Their movement thru the maze is of course limited by the walls, i.e., if the object they are moving contacts a wall then movement is stopped with some type of audible feedback. (Very behavioristic.) My (admittedly vague) question, then, is about how to make both the maze and the bumped into the wall algorithm. As for the maze itelf, the only options I see are to draw the maze either with (a) a graphics application and then import it to the stack, or (b) RunRev's create command. I'd prefer option (b), since it'd allow a new maze to be created for each new game. And as for the bumped algorithm, I'm hoping arcadeEngine's collision function will make things relatively simple. Many thanks in advance for the handholding yet again on this one. Cheers, Nicolas Cueto ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
MatchText and PCRE
The documentation says to see the PCRE manual for regular expression syntax. The PCRE manual refers to certain properties set as part of a C program. Consequently, I am unsure of the answers to the following four questions. True, I can experiment to see how these currently work but that will not answer the question of whether those behaviours are modifiable, so I am seeking answers before I dive in to using matchText. Is it greedy? If so, is that reversible and how? Does the dot match newline? If not, can it be made to do so? Does a pattern like .* match empty? If not, can it be changed? Is case-sensitivity in matchText affected by Rev's caseSensitive property? It appears not. Is case sensitivity settable? thanks David ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: CGI to send back a file to save
Aloha JB: Yes, I did get this working with help from someone on Expert's Exchange. But thank you... your note confirms the method... I use this for this context (sending a realAudio.ram file) [SNIP] put tURLStem tMainFolder / tYear / tAudioFileName into tAbsoluteURL # send this out to the browser as a file put Content-Type: audio/x-pn-realaudio cr put Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=real-player.ram cr cr put tAbsoluteURL it works great... and opens some interesting doors for dynamic file delivery... but I was told I didn't need a quote characater around the file name, didn't use it, and it seems to work just fine.. Regards Sivakatirswami On Jul 17, 2005, at 10:54 PM, jbv wrote: Hi, I'm a bit late on this thread, but I have some code that might help. What I actually do is generate on-the-fly pdf files with Rev cgi, and users get the usual WinXP dialog asking what they want to do with the file, save it or open it : put Content-Type: application/pdf cr Content-Length : number of chars of myPDF cr Content-Disposition: attachment; filename= q myRequestName q cr cr q contains the quote char. the above line works well under WinXP and MacOSX. I guess a few mods (in Content-Type mostly) may solve your problem... Best, JB Short version: I need to know the proper HTTP header to set to force a browser to save the incoming data to a file. (at least I *think* that's what I need to know.) Long Scenario: Goal: create a CGI that responds to a GET request that will automatically generate a fooSoundFile.ram file in a variable based on the query string e.g. $QUERY_STRING = audioFile=hawaii_papayas.mp3 then the .ram filename should be hawaii_papayas.ram and contain the string: http://www.himalayanacademy.com/audio/tropical_fruit_music/ hawaii_papayas.mp3 [you should hear those papayas sing!] Now, generating all that is a easy enough. But the usual scenario is that you have all these .ram files prebuilt (which is what I am trying to avoid. Old .ram files lying around the web site are a *big* nuisance to maintain) and the user clicks on a link a href=/audio/tropical_fruit_music/hawaii_papayas.ramReal Player/a and the .ram file is downloaded-saved to the client side disk... Real Player is mapped to .ram in the internet helper apps, boots and reads this file and streams the audio. I want the CGI to take over that process and serve the .ram file dynamically. OK, so all I know how to do is: put http://www.himalayanacademy.com/audio/tropical_fruit_music/ hawaii_papayas.mp3 into tRamFile http://www.himalayanacademy.com/audio/tropical_fruit_music/ hawaii_papayas.mp3 put Content-Type: text/plain cr put Content-Length: the length of tRamFile cr cr put tRamFile of course this is not going to work... that string will appear as a literal in the user's browser. is it as simple as something like: # just guessing.. I haven't a clue... put Content-Type: binary/file cr put Content-Length: the length of tRamFile cr cr put tRamFile # where the browser can't read it, so it saves it ?? i.e. we can of course do a redirect, like this: put http://www.himalayanacademy.com/audio/tropical_fruit_music/ hawaii_papayas.mp3 into tRamFile put tRamFile into url (file: audio/tropical_fruit_music/ hawaii_papayas.ram) put Status: 301 Moved Permanently cr put Location:http://www.himalayanacademy.com/audio/ tropical_fruit_music/hawaii_papayas.ram cr cr But, then I end up once again, with all these .ram files on disk... so I was hoping to find a way to pipe it straight out of the CGI... i.e. to take what is coming back from port 80 and save it instead of trying to render it...maybe this is the wrong place to ask this... I will take it to Experts-Exchange if no one here knows. TIA Sivakatirswami ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Jacque's Great!
Timothy- Monday, July 18, 2005, 4:04:38 PM, you wrote: TM I've retained Jacque (as in J. Landman Gay) as a Rev consultant, on a Ah... you're in good hands then. Just watch her estimates - she tends to list everything in seconds these days... g TM (BTW, the debugger anomaly, discussed last week, if anyone remembers TM it, turned out to be a bug. It will only debug a bg script on card 1 TM of the background. I built a fresh, clean stack in 2.6.1 to confirm TM it. It's been posted on BZ. That one wasn't dumb, contrary to my own TM self-doubt.) Thanks for persevering on that one. I was convinced it was something in your code. BTW - if you publish the BZ number it's easier to find and vote for bugs. That one's #3011 - took me several tries to find it. I just verified it myself and threw five votes its way. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Look and Feel, Metal texture -- Windows questions
I'm using Dreamcard in Windows XP, and have been trying the various options under Look and Feel in the View menu. I'm not sure what some of the options are supposed to look like, but I'm not really seeing much difference after choosing Mac OS Platinum Emulated. Am I not understanding what this menu option is supposed to do? Is it supposed to cause my project to take on a Mac-like appearance, so I can make sure my cross-platform visual design bases are covered? The only difference I see is a slight 3D-ing of the edges of some of the controls. Does this sound right? Shouldn't it be a much more drastic difference? This particular option is to make your stacks look as if they were running under Mac OS 9 or earlier, not Mac OS X. You are right, it is just to help you check the look when doing cross-platform development, but it is not terribly useful. If possible, always check your apps on the actual release platforms. If you can't get access to the right sort of computer, ask the list for volunteers. I'm also not clear on what the Metal texture checkbox in the stack inspector is supposed to be doing -- it just flashes the project's window, but doesn't seem to change anything, that I can see. What effect is it supposed to have? This is Mac OS X only, it has no effect on Windows, although I guess setting it will redraw the window. HTH, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Jacque's Great!
Hear, hear! While I have never hired Jacque, I have imposed on her good nature many times over many years, first on the Hypercard list and now here. She is unfailingly helpful, polite and extremely knowledgeable. Many thanks to Jacque and all the other helpful folk on this list. Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution unbooted
Jon, Chipp- Monday, July 18, 2005, 4:11:17 PM, you wrote: CW I concur with Jon. I regularly use 3 separate Windows XP machines, and CW multiple programs on each and never find the NEED TO reboot them, other CW than for service patches and app installs. The *need* to reboot them is subtler than that. Windows is a set of multi-level interdependent drivers and libraries that is dynamically rebuilt each time Windows reboots. My rule of thumb when making system changes is to reboot three times - each successive boot builds on the previous dependency model. Things can get a bit tenuous if Windows isn't allowed to reassure itself every so often about what's holding it up. Michael Swaine had a good writeup of the process in an article a while back called House of Cards, but I can't find a reference to it at the moment. Granted my rebooting every day my be a bit compulsive, but I figure it's a good habit to get into and this ensures that it gets done. Jon - your eventually something becomes unstable is *exactly* what I'm talking about. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[Slightly OT] Ransomware as a Model for Rev Toolmaking?
A friend of mine pointed me to an intriguing business concept called RansomWare and as I thought about it, it seemed there might be some possible use for it in the Rev developer community. Under this model, a developer offers to produce a given product, sets a development price threshold for it, and asks people to commit what they would be willing to pay for such a product if he were to produce it. In one model, these people provide concrete evidence of their willingness to participate by actually paying the amount they commit to; in another model, they simply promise to do so when the product is finished and released. Once the threshold is reached, the developer completes and releases the product free to the entire community. If the threshold isn't reached, meaning the community doesn't find the need for the tool compelling enough to fork over the threshold amount, the moneys that have been contributed, if any, are donated to a charity announced in advance. References: http://www.danielsolis.com/meatbot/ransom.html http://lists.essential.org/pipermail/random-bits/2002-November/ 000979.html Just an intriguing thought for a lazy summer evening. ~~ Dan Shafer, Revolution Consultant and Author http://www.shafermedia.com Get my book, Revolution: Software at the Speed of Thought From http://www.revolutionpros.com, Click My Stuff ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: [Slightly OT] Ransomware as a Model for Rev Toolmaking?
Sounds like Capitalism (raising money, investors, etc.) with a Communist ending. :-) Except for the *donation to a charity* part (people who put up money, should get it returned, if no tool is produced, so that they can put that same money towards another project, that is close to threshold) it sounds interesting... For example, I just requested a quote from someone to produce what's called a Browser Helper Object (BHO) external for Rev. The price was a little steep for me at this time, but if there were several people who could use this now, and were willing to share the development cost, I certainly wouldn't mind if it were released to the entire community on completion. Seems like a way to get what you need now and make it available to others, who may not have an immediate need, but may have in the future. If you have no clue as to what a BHO is, you can see the definition here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Browser_Helper_Object. Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dan Shafer Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 6:01 PM To: Revolution List Subject: [Slightly OT] Ransomware as a Model for Rev Toolmaking? A friend of mine pointed me to an intriguing business concept called RansomWare and as I thought about it, it seemed there might be some possible use for it in the Rev developer community. Under this model, a developer offers to produce a given product, sets a development price threshold for it, and asks people to commit what they would be willing to pay for such a product if he were to produce it. In one model, these people provide concrete evidence of their willingness to participate by actually paying the amount they commit to; in another model, they simply promise to do so when the product is finished and released. Once the threshold is reached, the developer completes and releases the product free to the entire community. If the threshold isn't reached, meaning the community doesn't find the need for the tool compelling enough to fork over the threshold amount, the moneys that have been contributed, if any, are donated to a charity announced in advance. References: http://www.danielsolis.com/meatbot/ransom.html http://lists.essential.org/pipermail/random-bits/2002-November/ 000979.html Just an intriguing thought for a lazy summer evening. ~~ Dan Shafer, Revolution Consultant and Author http://www.shafermedia.com Get my book, Revolution: Software at the Speed of Thought From http://www.revolutionpros.com, Click My Stuff ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: embed/install font
At 1:11 PM -0400 7/18/2005, Brad Borch wrote: Thanks for the pointer. I've done a fair bit of work in Director, Flash, etc. A long time ago I did Hypercard work. I'm sure with a little bit of guidance I'll get custom properties, but if you could just point me to a brief explanation of how this works and how to suck up and spit out (as I've heard the process referred to in some posts) something like another file or executable, I'd appreciate it. How to store a file in a custom property: You can use a URL to store a file in a custom property: set the myStoredFile of stack My Stack \ to URL binfile:mypicture.jpg You restore the file by putting the custom property's value into a URL: put the myStoredFile of stack My Stack \ into URL binfile:mypicture.jpg Tip: To save space, compress the file before storing it: set the myStoredFile of stack My Stack \ to compress(URL binfile:mypicture.jpg) -- jeanne a. e. devoto ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jaedworks.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Revolution unbooted
Mark, No offense meant but in 5 years of NT server maintenance, i've never heard such non-sense. we run servers for 5-6 months non-stop and except for service packs or security fixes, there is absolutely no need to reboot them EVER. 3 times??? woah! I wonder who gave you that idea... ;) Now, these are dedicated servers - my home computer is another mess and we're talking lots of stuff running... But i never reboot unless i really need to. Micheal Swaine is a Mac bigot and i've never seen a response from him or a non-biased article from him. Believe me, 1 reboot is sufficient - windows does its cleanups before boot and after installations (if the installer does). Have you seen a difference between 1, dos or 3 reboots? I haven't in 5 years ;) - This is not MacOS (where sometimes 2 reboots were better than 1 under some extension conditions.) Im sure you'll find the right information at technet.microsoft.com. cheers Xavier MacOS, NT System engineer by trade -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Wieder Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 05:11 To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Revolution unbooted Jon, Chipp- Monday, July 18, 2005, 4:11:17 PM, you wrote: CW I concur with Jon. I regularly use 3 separate Windows XP machines, CW and multiple programs on each and never find the NEED TO reboot CW them, other than for service patches and app installs. The *need* to reboot them is subtler than that. Windows is a set of multi-level interdependent drivers and libraries that is dynamically rebuilt each time Windows reboots. My rule of thumb when making system changes is to reboot three times - each successive boot builds on the previous dependency model. Things can get a bit tenuous if Windows isn't allowed to reassure itself every so often about what's holding it up. Michael Swaine had a good writeup of the process in an article a while back called House of Cards, but I can't find a reference to it at the moment. Granted my rebooting every day my be a bit compulsive, but I figure it's a good habit to get into and this ensures that it gets done. Jon - your eventually something becomes unstable is *exactly* what I'm talking about. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
