Re: Popup Button Help Needed

2006-02-14 Thread Garrett Hylltun

Bonjour Eric,

I do not understand what you mean by using a message box.

Merci,
-Garrett

On Feb 13, 2006, at 11:05 PM, Eric Chatonet wrote:


Hi Garret,

Just set the TraversalOn of your popup menu button to false:
Not possible in the property inspector so use the message box as an  
alternative way :-)

set the traversalOn of btn "MyMenu" to false

Le 14 févr. 06 à 07:59, Garrett Hylltun a écrit :

I have a bit of a problem with my popup menu in a field editor.   
As soon as the field editor is right clicked in, the popup menu  
steals the focus from the field editor.  I used a focus command,  
but once the focus was taken from the editor, if a word was  
highlighted, it is no longer highlighted.


Any suggestions on how to retain the focus on the editor, or re- 
highlight the word or words that were highlighted before the focus  
was lost?


Best Regards from Paris,
Eric Chatonet
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Re: Popup Button Help Needed

2006-02-14 Thread Eric Chatonet

Bonjour Garret :-)

Just type in the message box:
set the traversalOn of btn  to false
And press enter :-)

Le 14 févr. 06 à 09:08, Garrett Hylltun a écrit :


Bonjour Eric,

I do not understand what you mean by using a message box.

Merci,
-Garrett

On Feb 13, 2006, at 11:05 PM, Eric Chatonet wrote:


Hi Garret,

Just set the TraversalOn of your popup menu button to false:
Not possible in the property inspector so use the message box as  
an alternative way :-)

set the traversalOn of btn "MyMenu" to false

Le 14 févr. 06 à 07:59, Garrett Hylltun a écrit :

I have a bit of a problem with my popup menu in a field editor.   
As soon as the field editor is right clicked in, the popup menu  
steals the focus from the field editor.  I used a focus command,  
but once the focus was taken from the editor, if a word was  
highlighted, it is no longer highlighted.


Any suggestions on how to retain the focus on the editor, or re- 
highlight the word or words that were highlighted before the  
focus was lost?


Best Regards from Paris,
Eric Chatonet
- 
-

http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/


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Re: Popup Button Help Needed

2006-02-14 Thread Garrett Hylltun


Ah..  Got it!

Merci beaucoup Eric :-)


On Feb 14, 2006, at 12:13 AM, Eric Chatonet wrote:


Bonjour Garret :-)

Just type in the message box:
set the traversalOn of btn  to false
And press enter :-)

Le 14 févr. 06 à 09:08, Garrett Hylltun a écrit :


Bonjour Eric,

I do not understand what you mean by using a message box.

Merci,
-Garrett

On Feb 13, 2006, at 11:05 PM, Eric Chatonet wrote:


Hi Garret,

Just set the TraversalOn of your popup menu button to false:
Not possible in the property inspector so use the message box as  
an alternative way :-)

set the traversalOn of btn "MyMenu" to false

Le 14 févr. 06 à 07:59, Garrett Hylltun a écrit :

I have a bit of a problem with my popup menu in a field editor.   
As soon as the field editor is right clicked in, the popup menu  
steals the focus from the field editor.  I used a focus command,  
but once the focus was taken from the editor, if a word was  
highlighted, it is no longer highlighted.


Any suggestions on how to retain the focus on the editor, or re- 
highlight the word or words that were highlighted before the  
focus was lost?


Best Regards from Paris,
Eric Chatonet
 
--
http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]/



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Re: Getting Started with a Database

2006-02-14 Thread Ruslan Zasukhin
On 2/14/06 5:44 AM, "Lynn Fredricks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi Kay,
Hi Lynn,

>> PS Ruslan I noted your earlier post and as I stated in my
>> last after a little more trouble shooting I may need to post
>> my problem. I am registered with the Valentina list and I
>> must ask do you ever sleep? Your support is phenomenal - some

Thank you.

>> of the Rev officials could take a lesson of making more
>> regular appearances on this list. Lastly though, as stated by
>> Stephen, having a working 'utility client' is essential in
>> getting past the chicken and the egg and so without an
>> equivalent 'CocoaValentina' it is taking me a little longer
>> to troubleshoot my current problem - hard to tell is it Rev,
>> my code or Valentina.

> Valentina Studio has been getting updates fairly regularly, so if there's an
> issue there it will be solved.

Right. 

Btw good news, Valentina Studio already works in Universal Binary format.

 
> We keep Ruslan on a pure caffeine drip 24 hours a day :-)

:-) last 10 years it seems

-- 
Best regards,

Ruslan Zasukhin
VP Engineering and New Technology
Paradigma Software, Inc

Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information
http://www.paradigmasoft.com

[I feel the need: the need for speed]


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Re: Getting Started with a Database

2006-02-14 Thread Klaus Major

Hi Ruslan and all,


...

We keep Ruslan on a pure caffeine drip 24 hours a day :-)


:-) last 10 years it seems


the most funny ever description of you and your amazing 24/7 work has  
been on

the old Paradigma website:

A user wrote:
##
The amazing thing about Paradigma is their support AI, a program  
called RUSLAN.


It is a real breakthrough for Ukranian computer science, because it  
seems to have
passed the Turing test in almost every respect. It jokes, it pretends  
to be not too fluent
in English, it answers questions on deep technical issues, it plans  
ahead and claims

to write software.

It has even dropped mysterious references to having a girlfriend,  
though some say
that the database program called Valentina may be the real object of  
affection.


The only giveaway is that it is too fast, sometimes solutions seems  
to be to be

implemented even before the question is asked.

So join us on the Valentina support list and see if you can make  
Ruslan give himself away.
Oh yes, Valentina, the fast, scriptable Macintosh database engine  
with lots of APIs isn't too bad either...

###

:-D


Best regards,

Ruslan Zasukhin
VP Engineering and New Technology
Paradigma Software, Inc

Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information
http://www.paradigmasoft.com

[I feel the need: the need for speed]


Best from germanksi

Klaus Major
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.major-k.de

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Rev 2.7 Evaluation (Win XP)

2006-02-14 Thread Brian K. Maher
Hi Folks,

I just installed Rev 2.7 on XP and obtained a 30 day trial code.  It appears 
that there is a bug and you are forced to re-enter the trial code information 
every time you start Rev up.  Can anyone else confirm this?

Thanks, Brian

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Re: Rev 2.7 Evaluation (Win XP)

2006-02-14 Thread Pat Trendler

Confirmed.

Pat

- Original Message - 
From: "Brian K. Maher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "How to use Revolution" 
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 10:32 PM
Subject: Rev 2.7 Evaluation (Win XP)



Hi Folks,

I just installed Rev 2.7 on XP and obtained a 30 day trial code.  It 
appears that there is a bug and you are forced to re-enter the trial code 
information every time you start Rev up.  Can anyone else confirm this?


Thanks, Brian

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More Constellation scripts....

2006-02-14 Thread David Bovill
And yes - getActiveTab() and getNoTabs() no longer work from CPO's or  
message box - I think they have moved to different locations



function cons_GetTabScriptObjects
-- set the defaultStack to "revTranscriptGadget"
-- put getActiveTab() into activeTab -- (in Cons. stack script;  
returns number of the active tab)
-- put getNoTabs() into numOfTabs -- (in Cons. stack script;  
returns the number of tabs in use)


put the long id of group "tabs" of cd 1 of stack  
"revConstellation" into consTabGroup

put the number of buttons in consTabGroup into maxBtns
repeat with btnNum = 1 to maxBtns
put the long id of btn btnNum of consTabGroup into  
consTabButton

if the label of consTabButton is not space then
put the cObjectID of consTabButton into scriptObject --  
(long id of any tab's object)

put scriptObject & return after scriptObjects
end if
end repeat
delete last char of scriptObjects
return scriptObjects
end cons_GetTabScriptObjects

function cons_GetNumberOfTabs
put 0 into theRealNoBtns
put the long id of group "tabs" of cd 1 of stack  
"revConstellation" into consTabGroup

put the number of buttons in consTabGroup into maxBtns
repeat with btnNum = 1 to maxBtns
put the long id of btn btnNum of consTabGroup into  
consTabButton

if the label of consTabButton is not space then
add 1 to theRealNoBtns
end if
end repeat
return theRealNoBtns
end cons_GetNumberOfTabs

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Small bug

2006-02-14 Thread David Bovill
Clicking on a handler name in the handler tree - say "mouseDown"  
finds stuff in comments for instance the following comment:


-- put menu_GetChecked("Can customise script", targetObject)  
-- won't work as the menu is checked dynamically on mouseDown


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Re: Rev 2.7 Evaluation (Win XP)

2006-02-14 Thread Mark Waddingham

Hi Brian,

I just installed Rev 2.7 on XP and obtained a 30 day trial code.   
It appears that there is a bug and you are forced to re-enter the  
trial code information every time you start Rev up.  Can anyone  
else confirm this?


You shouldn't need to re-enter the trial code - although it might  
appear that you do.


When run after licensing, you should be presented with the dialog  
which says 'x days remaining' and the 'Unlock' button has become  
'Continue'. You should then immediately be able to click 'Continue'  
and use the product.


If this is not the case with your installation, please email me off- 
list so I can help trouble-shoot.


We are aware that the current dialog is not at all clear on this  
matter and are taking steps to rectify it.


Warmest Regards,

Mark.

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Rev 2.7 GM 1 (Win XP), stack blendlevel

2006-02-14 Thread Klaus Major

Hi Mark,

when you drag the blendlevel slider for a stack on Win XP
the stack turns BLACK (at about blendlevel 1), then there is an ugly  
flash

and then it works as exspected... Sounds familiar to me :-/


Regards

Klaus Major
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http://www.major-k.de

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Re: Revolution RUMORS!

2006-02-14 Thread David Burgun


On 14 Feb 2006, at 02:13, Phil Davis wrote:


Kay C Lan wrote:

On 2/14/06, Heather Nagey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Dear list folks,

I regret that Richmond is back  on the moderated list - he won't be
able to post without approval.
I would hope that now that 2.7 is 'Official' that Richmond's time  
in the
corner may be over. I agree with a few others here that Richmond's  
act was
not so much a case of intentional hacking but merely an indication  
that he

is more curious than most.
Curiosity may have moderated the cat, but let's face it, the cat's  
now out

of the bag:-)



My two cents' worth:

Curiosity is no excuse for taking license with someone else's  
property. Richmond circumvented RunRev's control of their own  
product marketing activities. If he had done that in an employment  
context, it could even be considered an offense worthy of  
dismissal. As I see it, RunRev will be completely justified even if  
they decide to never let him back on the list.


All he did was to press the cancel key, the only action that was  
available to him unless he wanted to Command+Option+Escape his way  
out of the page and thereby lose whatever else was open in the  
Browser. I also fail to see how he "circumvented RunRev's control of  
their own product marketing activities", it's clear from that fact  
that he managed to do what he did with very little effort that they  
didn't have "control" to start with.


In the case he were employed then RunRev would have been paying him a  
salary, that's why they may have dismissed him, e.g. paying him to  
keep his mouth shut. Since (I assume) they are not paying him  
anything, I hardly see that he owes them anything. In fact, since  
presumably he pays RunRev a license fee and promotes their products,  
he could be argued that RunRev in fact owe him he the duty to keep a  
functioning website or at least to keep him and the other developers  
informed of what is going on and not just "go silent" for a few days  
at a time.


Think of it this way: What if it had been your company, your  
product, your marketing he compromised? How would you feel?


If it had been my Company then I would have had more consideration  
for my developers and would have kept them better informed of what  
was going on with the product(s) that they had put their faith in and  
invested time and money on. Also if I'd made such a hash of "keeping  
the cat in the bag (pipe?)" then I'd have felt embarrassed and a bit  
annoyed I suppose, but I'd like to think that I'd have been grown up  
enough to realize where the real fault lay and not let pride get in  
the way of sense and fair play.


All the Best
Dave

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Re: Revolution RUMORS!

2006-02-14 Thread David Burgun


On 14 Feb 2006, at 03:55, kee nethery wrote:



On Feb 13, 2006, at 6:36 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:


kee nethery wrote:

To use the house analogy, the homeowner gave me instructions on  
how  to get into his house and get stuff I was supposed to be  
able to get.  I followed the homeowner's instructions and saw  
things that perhaps  the homeowner might not want me to see, but  
since I was following the  homeowner's instructions, I figured  
the news was public knowledge.  All this fuss could have been  
avoided if the homeowner had locked the  door that I had been  
told to use.

I do not see Richmond as a villain in this situation.


Okay, I see your point and I have been corrected in email too.  
When I posted I didn't realize how easy it was to gain access to  
the site. I apologize to Richmond for calling him unethical. Maybe  
he was just thoughtless.


But just to extend the analogy, suppose I arrived at the home and  
found the door lock broken with a sign over it "Please knock".  
Suppose I went in anyway and accidentally saw the homeowner  
engaged in a private activity. I hope I would back out quietly,  
and resist the impulse to grab my videocamera.


A better analogy, in this case would be, if you had entered the first  
door as usual and then found that the key would not work properly on  
the second door, but that the first was locked behind you and that to  
get out would perhaps cause you to damage yourself in some way.


By this I mean that once you had opened the page, all that it was  
possible to do was to either press cancel or try to hack the username  
and password. You could not close the window that was asking you to  
log on and so it was stuck open. If you had downloads in progress  
they would have been lost since the only way out was to force-quit  
the browser.


This example seems kind of specific. :-) Do you per chance live in  
a house that once upon a time had a broken door lock and ...


lol!

All the Best
Dave


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Re: Revolution RUMORS!

2006-02-14 Thread David Burgun


On 14 Feb 2006, at 04:06, Richard Gaskin wrote:


J. Landman Gay wrote:

kee nethery wrote:
This example seems kind of specific. :-) Do you per chance live  
in a  house that once upon a time had a broken door lock and ...

Ah my, you should have been a diplomat. :)
And let me tell you, if I *ever* get my hands on that guy with the  
camera...


It's worse than you think:  He sold me the video, and I'm just  
about to upload it to iFilm


Can I have a copy?!?!?!?

Take Care
Dave



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Re: Revolution RUMORS!

2006-02-14 Thread David Burgun


On 14 Feb 2006, at 04:28, Judy Perry wrote:


I would agree, however, RunRev clearly didn't want this information
available now.  Sure, they may have forgotten to 'lock the door', but
that's not a good excuse to go inside anyway.


The point is that it was hard to back out, the window was stuck  
"open" in the Browser.


And, so, Richmond had to know that he was "scooping" after  
snooping.  Did

he think that the company would thank him for this?  Unless you can
answer "yes" with a straight face, it's difficult to identify a  
rationale

that justifies the behavior.


I guess he was just annoyed at being left with a non-working site for  
days at a time! I for one was glad to see that something horrid  
hadn't happened to RunRev. Apart from that, all he did was post it to  
the RunRev list. He could have posted it to a lot of more public  
places and maybe have caused real damage. Also he could have posted  
it under another name/alias. The fact that he did it under his own  
name speaks oceans to me!


And, of course, I say this as someone who has spent waaa too  
much time

on the naughty seat myself.


Do tell!

All the Best
Dave


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Re: Rev 2.7 Evaluation (Win XP)

2006-02-14 Thread Brian K. Maher
Hi Mark,

>You shouldn't need to re-enter the trial code - although it might  
>appear that you do.
>
>When run after licensing, you should be presented with the dialog  
>which says 'x days remaining' and the 'Unlock' button has become  
>'Continue'. You should then immediately be able to click 'Continue'  
>and use the product.
>
>If this is not the case with your installation, please email me off- 
>list so I can help trouble-shoot.
>
>We are aware that the current dialog is not at all clear on this  
>matter and are taking steps to rectify it.

Thanks for the info.  Punching through the dialog by clicking the Continue 
button does indeed work as you state.

Thanks, Brian

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Rev 2.7 Bug (Crash)

2006-02-14 Thread Brian K. Maher
Hi Folks,

I was testing a SQL locking issue and found that the revDataFromQuery function 
will cause Rev to crash if the query fails due to a locked record.  My ODBC 
connection specifies "repeatable read" as the default isolation level in the 
ODBC DSN configuration.  The code is as follows:

on mouseUp
  put revOpenDatabase("ODBC","S2K",,"xyz","xyz") into vDB
  
  try
put revDataFromQuery(,,vDB,"SELECT * FROM PUB.Customer") into vResult
answer (line 1 of vResult)
  catch vError
answer vError
  end try
  
  revCloseDatabase vDB
  
  answer "Done"
end mouseUp

Cheers, Brian

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Re: Revolution RUMORS!

2006-02-14 Thread David Burgun
Well, since the RunRev site and the Use Revolution list have been  
down (I was unable to post to it, although I could read it) for days.  
I guess I didn't have much else to do! Also knowing that a new  
version it almost ready makes it hard to stay focused!


All the Best
Dave



On 14 Feb 2006, at 04:42, Garrett Hylltun wrote:

You're all spending too much time on this and not enough time on  
Rev!  :-(


-Garrett
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Re: ANN: Save Plugin plugin

2006-02-14 Thread Todd Geist


On Feb 13, 2006, at 11:40 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:

 Third-party plugins are now stored globally so that they are
persistent across multiple version installs.



I see a Plugins folder inside the 2.7.0-gm-1 folder.  How is this  
different then it was before and how will this effect multiple  
installs?  Won't there be a different folder for each Rev install?


Thanks

Todd

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Re: ANN: Save Plugin plugin

2006-02-14 Thread Mark Waddingham

Hi Todd,

I see a Plugins folder inside the 2.7.0-gm-1 folder.  How is this  
different then it was before and how will this effect multiple  
installs?  Won't there be a different folder for each Rev install?


This is mentioned in the 'Whats_New.txt' file...

Basically, the user can put all customizations for a specific  
Revolution Edition (e.g. Dreamcard, Studio, Enterprise) into a folder  
inside 'Documents' (or 'My Documents' on Windows) and they will  
persist across all 2.7-and-later versions of Revolution.


Mark's plugin (a very useful first addition to 2.7!) makes it easier  
to install plugins as this will create the necessary folder structure  
for you, as well as copy the file into the appropriate place.


Incidentally, this customization folder allows you to do the same for  
externals, database drivers and even Revolution IDE components.


Warmest Regards,

Mark.


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Re: deleting multiple controls all at once

2006-02-14 Thread Rob Cozens

Hi Josh,


if I need a command like this my overall approach needs to change


One can remove _all_ controls created since a stack was opened (or 
saved--whichever comes last) by simply removing the stack from RAM 
without saving it.


If a stack's destroyStack property is true, simply closing the stack 
removes it from RAM; otherwise one must quit RunRev or the standalone 
to remove the stack from RAM.


Rob Cozens
CCW, Serendipity Software Company

"And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three;
Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee."

from "The Triple Foole" by John Donne (1572-1631)

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Re: Mac Help Authoring

2006-02-14 Thread Rob Cozens

Hi Scott,


What are some of
the applications you use to author help files for
your applications?


I use Runtime Revolution to create hypertext user manuals with 
context-sensitive access from the parent stack.  My help files are 
therefore platform independent and capable of running any Transcript 
handler.


Rob Cozens
CCW, Serendipity Software Company

"And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three;
Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee."

from "The Triple Foole" by John Donne (1572-1631)


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Re: Getting Started with a Database

2006-02-14 Thread David Burgun

Hi Trevor,

Thanks for taking the time to reply on this.


On 13 Feb 2006, at 18:41, Trevor DeVore wrote:


On Feb 13, 2006, at 5:52 AM, David Burgun wrote:

Haven't had much luck in getting this to work. I downloaded and  
installed MySQL. I then downloaded libDatabase and sample stack  
called libdb_recipes. When I run up the "recipes.rev" stack, I get  
an error:


"libdberr: unable to connect to database (Unknown database  
'recipes')".


Hi David,

It looks like you haven't created the recipes database in MySQL.   
Did you import the recipes.sql file into your MySQL database?


I am really not sure what I have to do. I downloaded  
libDatabase_2.zip. This expanded into a folder called "libDatabase  
2.0" which contains the following files and folders:


libDatabase.rev
Change Log.txt
docs folder
   bmm-code.css
   Getting Started.pdf
   libDatabase Handlers.html

I then downloaded:

recipes.rev
recipes.sql

and put them in the "libDatabase 2.0" folder. I then double-clicked  
the "recipes.rev" file and got the message:


"libdberr: unable to connect to database (Unknown database 'recipes')".

I am not sure how to import recipes.sql into the MySQL database and  
can't seem to find any information on how to do it anywhere.


I have now looked that three database solutions and none of them seem  
to work and there seems to be very little "getting-started"  
information supplied with them.


Also, I highly recommend using version 2 of the libDatabase library  
(available from the same page as version 1).  Version 2 does not  
have an example stack but there is a getting started doc which  
describes the differences between version 1 and 2 along with code  
explaining the main functionality.


All I want is a simple database in order to build a prototype  
application to take to a prospective client and try to convince them  
to buy into the project.


I need to store and retrieve via the following fields:

Name | Type | Size | ImageFilePathName

I have a CD with around 200,000 objects on it that I want to enter  
into the database.


I don't want to lay out a lot of money at this stage nor do I want to  
have a massive learning curve to get it working. If I get the go  
ahead on the project then the database will be extended, a run time  
license purchased and I will of course be prepared to invest a lot of  
time learning about it. But right now, time is of the essence and I  
just want to get something up and running ASAP!


Thanks for all your help and sorry for not replying sooner, the list  
was broken for me as far as sending was concerned.


All the Best
Dave




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Re: Getting Started with a Database

2006-02-14 Thread David Burgun

Hi,

I downloaded and installed this and running the test stack:

go URL "http://www.gadgetplugins.com/altsqlite/SQLite3Demo.rev";

seems to work ok, this (although there are problems running under  
RunRev 2.7, so I am using 2.6.1).


I can't seem to find out what the restrictions are on the Demo copy??

Thanks a lot
All the Best
Dave




On 13 Feb 2006, at 19:55, Scott Kane wrote:


Hi David,

Not sure if it has been mentioned or not to you,
but I heartly recommend altSQLite.  It's zero
configuration (database can be in the same folder
as your binary). it's pretty lean and is fast
enough for the number of records you are looking
at.

Check it out at:

http://www.altuit.com

Scott Kane



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"MegaWidget" question

2006-02-14 Thread Len Morgan
I'm wondering anyone has created a "megawidget" (sorry for the TCL/TK 
term - that's my background) that would visually simulate a DIP switch?  
I'd like to create a micro-app for a friend that would visually show and 
allow the user to manipulate the switches on a multiposition DIP switch 
and then calculate what those switches mean.  For example, it is common 
to use 3 or 4 DIP switches to set the baud rate for a modem so I'd like 
to let the user toggle the switches back and forth and display the baud 
rate that would give them.  Alternatively, I'd also like to provide a 
drop down box with the possible choices and upon selection, "set" the 
switches on the screen.


This seems like it would need a modified checkbutton (one image for 
switch-on and one for switch-off) and then a way of assembling more than 
one of these into a group with a nice box around them that looks like 
the body of the switch itself.


Is something like this possible?  I think if I had the images, I could 
code it and make a generic DIP switch control that could make one as big 
or small as necessary.


Thanks

Len Morgan
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Re: Revolution RUMORS!

2006-02-14 Thread Stephen Barncard
You're obfuscating the fact that he POSTED the information on this 
forum, not that he got 'stuck in the site'.

Please end this thread.


On 14 Feb 2006, at 04:28, Judy Perry wrote:


I would agree, however, RunRev clearly didn't want this information
available now.  Sure, they may have forgotten to 'lock the door', but
that's not a good excuse to go inside anyway.


The point is that it was hard to back out, the window was stuck 
"open" in the Browser.


Dave


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RE: "MegaWidget" question

2006-02-14 Thread MisterX
there's lots of ways...

easiest would be to use 2 icons, one for the non-hilited state of the button
and one for the hilited state (ON). You set the hilited of the button on and
off and it will show or switch that icon and it's a on-off switch... 

set the button's auto-hilite to off with this little script

on mouseup
  set the hilite of me to not the hilite of me
end mouseup

very easy!

choice of icons will make the button more dipswitch like...
scanning dipswitches in on and off states is also allowed but icons look
usually better and are easier to find...

Depends how cool you want those icon or switches to look...

cheers
Xavier
http://monsieurx.com

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Len Morgan
> Sent: Tuesday, 14 February, 2006 18:03
> To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
> Subject: "MegaWidget" question
> 
> I'm wondering anyone has created a "megawidget" (sorry for 
> the TCL/TK term - that's my background) that would visually 
> simulate a DIP switch?  
> I'd like to create a micro-app for a friend that would 
> visually show and allow the user to manipulate the switches 
> on a multiposition DIP switch and then calculate what those 
> switches mean.  For example, it is common to use 3 or 4 DIP 
> switches to set the baud rate for a modem so I'd like to let 
> the user toggle the switches back and forth and display the 
> baud rate that would give them.  Alternatively, I'd also like 
> to provide a drop down box with the possible choices and upon 
> selection, "set" the switches on the screen.
> 
> This seems like it would need a modified checkbutton (one 
> image for switch-on and one for switch-off) and then a way of 
> assembling more than one of these into a group with a nice 
> box around them that looks like the body of the switch itself.
> 
> Is something like this possible?  I think if I had the 
> images, I could code it and make a generic DIP switch control 
> that could make one as big or small as necessary.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Len Morgan
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2.7 Bugs

2006-02-14 Thread Éric Miclo

Hello,

In the previous version you couldn't place Rev's folder in a folder  
who's name contained an accented char because the docs wouldn't be  
usable.
You were even warned upon opening the docs and the message said that  
the "fix was due shortly"


Now you're not warned anymore but the bug is still there with a new  
bug: when placed in such a folder, trying to compile a stack for  
several platforms leads to a "you d'ont have one of the engines"  
message despite the fact that all engines are in their respective  
folders.


I'm afraid that if so obvious bugs are not corrected, the long list  
of known (and annoying) bugs is still that long.
Personally I'd prefer not to see a bunch of new functionalities in  
the next revision of Rev but a reduction of the amount of bugs and  
consolidation of some features (like the table object or the geometry  
manager).


Best,

ÉrIC

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RE: "MegaWidget" question

2006-02-14 Thread Len Morgan

MisterX wrote:

choice of icons will make the button more dipswitch like...
scanning dipswitches in on and off states is also allowed but icons look
usually better and are easier to find...

Depends how cool you want those icon or switches to look...

cheers
Xavier

Well, that's a big part of what I was looking for: the icons.  The 3D aspect of a DIP 
switch makes it a little difficult to scan.  I was hoping someone might have seen 
something like this somewhere since I am "graphically challenged."  :-(

len

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Re: "MegaWidget" question

2006-02-14 Thread Jim Ault
You could grab images off a web page (try google images search, or a DIP
manufacturer's site) save them as a png and import them into Rev.

Jim Ault
Las Vegas


On 2/14/06 9:57 AM, "Len Morgan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> MisterX wrote:
> 
> choice of icons will make the button more dipswitch like...
> scanning dipswitches in on and off states is also allowed but icons look
> usually better and are easier to find...
> 
> Depends how cool you want those icon or switches to look...
> 
> cheers
> Xavier
> 
> Well, that's a big part of what I was looking for: the icons.  The 3D aspect
> of a DIP switch makes it a little difficult to scan.  I was hoping someone
> might have seen something like this somewhere since I am "graphically
> challenged."  :-(
> 


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Problem with Pass command

2006-02-14 Thread Stgoldberg
Perhaps someone can help with the following problem   I have involving the 
pass command.   I have a button that performs a certain action. A field (it 
could also be another button) overlies the button.   I'd like to arrange so 
that 
if I click on the field the message passes through it to the button.   How can 
I do this?   I've set the locktext of the field to true and had either no 
script associated with the field or inserted the following script:
on mouseUp
pass mouseUp
end mouseUp

Nothing happens though. How can I get the button to react?   Thanks very 
much.
Steve Goldberg
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Re: Contrib to old topics - why isn't Rev more popular?

2006-02-14 Thread Jerry Daniels

Garrett, et al.,

I don't think RunRev will mind us talking about Constellation on the  
board as they're selling it now! They were always very good about  
that anyway. This post is in direct response to Garret's problems  
with finding a development environs where he feels more comfort and  
less discomfort (if I may put words in his mouth).


With Constellation, we've tried very hard to come up with an  
alternate workflow for Revolution developers, but that's a fairly  
subtle thing to communicate in the "buy me now" atmosphere of web  
pages and bytes. Dan Shafer's (www.shafermedia.com) love of SmallTalk  
browsers and Chipp Walters' (www.altuit.com) frustrations with script  
editors in general were two talented and productive voices that urged  
me into building Constellation.


Also, back in the early 90's, I built a front end for CompileIt!  
called "HPW." I really liked creating an alternate workflow for  
CompileIt! users that was more project oriented. What I learned there  
was: CompileIt! was perfect for a quick demo and that's what made it  
sell. But when the demo was done and the developer used it day after  
day, he/she started losing his/her marbles.


Now, well into the 2000's, I'm trying my hand at another alternate  
workflow for another great development tool: Revolution. My alternate  
workflow for Revolution is now Constellation and its "gadgets." It's  
for those people who are done "demoing" Revolution and really want to  
work with it.


Creating Constellation has been a learning experience in the extreme.  
I was unprepared for the diversity of users and their preferences,  
but Constellation users--starting with version 2.10--have been  
telling me: "This is the one!"..."You've got it!"...and good stuff  
like that. So I'm beginnning to believe we ARE getting it. The early  
adopters got a good deal financially and had a strong voice in the  
direction of the product.


So, Garrett, here's the big delta between today's Constellation and  
last years: choice. You can really choose how you want your  
development environment to work.


We now have very flexible and clear editor "states": script-only;  
scripts & props; props-only. However, in scripts-only you can make  
the handlers disappear with a click. In props only you can make the  
preview pane disappear with a single click.


More flex: you can have Constellation "remember" how you like each  
and every object and open it that way--if you like. Would you like to  
see your properties in folders? Done, with one click. Would you like  
to organize your handlers into folders? A few comments in the script  
and it's done in one (click).


Trevor DeVore and his company (www.mangomultimedia.com) do GREAT work  
in Rev and other environs. He LOVES to use custom properties and  
custom property sets. He uses BBEdit to do his scripting--not  
Constellation or Revolution IDE. He uses Constellation to edit his  
properties and to debug his scripts. Making all that work seamlessly  
for him so he and his brother can pull down the bucks to support  
their families and deliver great products was a great boost in the  
arm for my products.


Scott Rossi (www.tactilemedia.com) has come out with a FANTASTIC  
alignment plugin (tmAlign), that makes aligning fields and buttons  
into the 21st century. When tmAlign is used with Constellation, it  
makes property editing fun, effective and downright holistic. With or  
without tmAlign, Constellation lets you can drag a property from one  
object to another. Hold down the shift key and the property gets  
applied to all the objects (that have that property) being edited in  
Constellation.


This is the stuff of alternate workflows. Subtle but dramatic. And  
the perfect add-on sale for Revolution, if I may say so.  
Constellation can go as far as we can imagine it. Why not give it a  
shot?


Best,

Jerry Daniels





Artists, Consultants & Developers
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http://www.daniels-mara.com/products
http://www.daniels-mara.com

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On Feb 13, 2006, at 4:26 PM, Garrett Hylltun wrote:



On Feb 13, 2006, at 1:17 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote:


Garrett Hylltun wrote:



One other thing.  The IDE in Rev kind of throws me off also, but  
I  believe it's due to myself having Attention Deficit Disorder.   
I can  easily work in an IDE that is simply and editor with a few  
buttons  and tools that I can open and close when needed, but  
with Rev, the  many open windows and lack of a main editor window  
where I can access  all the code of my project really throws me off.



You might want to look at Constellation.
It's not quite "one big editor window" - but it does feature one  
large window with multiple panes for different aspects of an IDE,  
and multiple tabbed pages for editing different scripts.


http://www.daniels-mara.com/products/


Yeah, bought that last year also.  At the time it made things worse  
for me.  But I haven't run it aga

Re: "MegaWidget" question

2006-02-14 Thread Klaus Major

Hi freinds,


there's lots of ways...

easiest would be to use 2 icons, one for the non-hilited state of  
the button
and one for the hilited state (ON). You set the hilited of the  
button on and

off and it will show or switch that icon and it's a on-off switch...

set the button's auto-hilite to off with this little script

on mouseup
  set the hilite of me to not the hilite of me
end mouseup

very easy!


Even easier: Use a simple checkbox with your icons ;-)


choice of icons will make the button more dipswitch like...
scanning dipswitches in on and off states is also allowed but icons  
look

usually better and are easier to find...

Depends how cool you want those icon or switches to look...

cheers
Xavier
http://monsieurx.com



I'm wondering anyone has created a "megawidget" (sorry for
the TCL/TK term - that's my background) that would visually
simulate a DIP switch?
...

Thanks

Len Morgan


Regards

Klaus Major
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.major-k.de

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Re: Problem with Pass command

2006-02-14 Thread Klaus Major

Hi Steve,

Perhaps someone can help with the following problem   I have  
involving the
pass command.   I have a button that performs a certain action. A  
field (it
could also be another button) overlies the button.   I'd like to  
arrange so that
if I click on the field the message passes through it to the  
button.   How can
I do this?   I've set the locktext of the field to true and had  
either no

script associated with the field or inserted the following script:
on mouseUp
pass mouseUp
end mouseUp

Nothing happens though. How can I get the button to react?   Thanks  
very

much.


"passing" doesn't work, as you experienced but you can "send" mouseup  
to your button!


on mouseUp
  ### do field stuff here if necessary
  send "mouseUp" to btn "your buttonname here"
end mouseUp


Steve Goldberg


Regards

Klaus Major
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.major-k.de

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Re: Getting Started with a Database

2006-02-14 Thread Trevor DeVore

Hi David,

It looks like you haven't created the recipes database in MySQL.   
Did you import the recipes.sql file into your MySQL database?


I am really not sure what I have to do. I downloaded  
libDatabase_2.zip. This expanded into a folder called "libDatabase  
2.0" which contains the following files and folders:


libDatabase.rev
Change Log.txt
docs folder
   bmm-code.css
   Getting Started.pdf
   libDatabase Handlers.html

I then downloaded:

recipes.rev
recipes.sql

and put them in the "libDatabase 2.0" folder. I then double-clicked  
the "recipes.rev" file and got the message:


"libdberr: unable to connect to database (Unknown database  
'recipes')".


I am not sure how to import recipes.sql into the MySQL database and  
can't seem to find any information on how to do it anywhere.


A couple of things to address here.

Creating the database
The recipes.rev file assumes that you have already created the  
recipes table in your MySQL database.  That is what the recipes.sql  
file is for.  I did a search on google on the phrase "import sql into  
mysql" and there were some useful results.  Some people mentioned  
some MySQL database editors you could download.  Those will have the  
ability to import a sql file through a menu option.  In CocoaMySQL it  
is File->Import->CocoaMySQL dump.


libDatabase 2.0
The recipes.rev stack will not work with libDatabase 2.x as there  
were some changes to the API which made the two incompatible.   
libDatabase 2.x is marked as beta mainly because I haven't had time  
to put together example stacks, etc.  If you use the recipes.rev  
stack with libDatabase 1.x and understand the concepts then switching  
to libDatabase 2.x in your project should be very easy.


I have now looked that three database solutions and none of them  
seem to work and there seems to be very little "getting-started"  
information supplied with them.


libDatabase does work, it just doesn't have any good introduction to  
databases documentation/examples with it.  I believe the Getting  
Started guide that comes with libDatabase 2.x contains enough  
information for someone who has a solid understanding of both  
Revolution and SQL databases.  If you are new to databases then you  
may have difficulties because there isn't an "Introduction to SQL  
Databases and Revolution using libDatabase" article.  I would love to  
write one someday but I don't know when that will happen.


Also, I highly recommend using version 2 of the libDatabase  
library (available from the same page as version 1).  Version 2  
does not have an example stack but there is a getting started doc  
which describes the differences between version 1 and 2 along with  
code explaining the main functionality.


All I want is a simple database in order to build a prototype  
application to take to a prospective client and try to convince  
them to buy into the project.


I need to store and retrieve via the following fields:

Name | Type | Size | ImageFilePathName

I have a CD with around 200,000 objects on it that I want to enter  
into the database.


I don't want to lay out a lot of money at this stage nor do I want  
to have a massive learning curve to get it working. If I get the go  
ahead on the project then the database will be extended, a run time  
license purchased and I will of course be prepared to invest a lot  
of time learning about it. But right now, time is of the essence  
and I just want to get something up and running ASAP!


I don't know that you can get around a learning curve given the  
current state of things, even to just have the 4 fields that you  
desire.  Given that time is of the essence and this seems to be a  
prototype I would bypass SQL altogether.  Just use a card database to  
store the information (do you need all 200,000 records for the  
prototype?) and show proof of concept.  If you get the go ahead then  
you can learn about SQL databases and implement one in your project.   
SQL is an incredibly powerful way to manage your data so it is  
definitely worth learning about IMO.



--
Trevor DeVore
Blue Mango Multimedia
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Re: Contrib to old topics - why isn't Rev more popular?

2006-02-14 Thread Charles Hartman


On Feb 14, 2006, at 1:29 PM, Jerry Daniels wrote:


http://www.daniels-mara.com/products/


Yeah, bought that last year also.  At the time it made things  
worse for me.  But I haven't run it again yet, so maybe I should  
give it a try again.  :-)


Simply no comparison. As far as I'm concerned, Constellation makes  
Rev a usable programming environment. And you wouldn't believe how  
much it's developed in just the last three or four months.


Charles Hartman

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Re: Contrib to old topics - why isn't Rev more popular?

2006-02-14 Thread Jeanne A. E. DeVoto

At 4:23 PM -0600 2/13/2006, J. Landman Gay wrote:
Good points. The docs need to clearly describe the conventions that 
are being used when documenting the dictionary entries. As you point 
out, many of us are so used to these conventions that we don't even 
think about it any more. What you are seeing is pretty standard for 
xtalk documentation, but of course if you are a newcomer there is no 
way you'd know that.



There used to be an "About the Documentation" item on the docs start 
page, which I think got dropped when the docs browser was changed - 
much of it was no longer relevant, but it did contain the syntax 
conventions:


"The Transcript Dictionary has some additional features:

* The icons near the top of the dictionary window for Mac OS, OS X, 
Unix, and Windows indicate which platforms each Transcript term is 
supported on.


* The syntax for each language term (other than keywords) is provided 
in boldface typewriter text. The syntax description uses the standard 
conventions to indicate parts of the syntax:


[]  Square brackets enclose optional portions.
{}  Curly braces enclose sets of alternatives from which you choose.
| Vertical bars separate different alternatives.

Italics indicate placeholders that you don't enter literally."

As far as I know, these syntax conventions still apply throughout the 
dictionary.

--
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Re: ANN: Save Plugin plugin

2006-02-14 Thread Mark Wieder
Mark-

Tuesday, February 14, 2006, 7:56:58 AM, you wrote:

> Incidentally, this customization folder allows you to do the same for
> externals, database drivers and even Revolution IDE components.

Thanks - I wasn't aware of that. But in that case you wouldn't want to
use my plugin plugin for it since I append a ".rev" to the stack name.

-- 
-Mark Wieder
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Split Command

2006-02-14 Thread Gregory Lypny

Hello everyone,

If I create an array from a list field using the split command and  
return as the only delimiter, am I guaranteed that the number of each  
line becomes its own array element key?  That is, does line 1 become  
array element 1, line 2 array element 2, and so on?  This seems to be  
the case in a couple of experiments I've done.


Gregory
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RE: Getting Started with a Database

2006-02-14 Thread Scott Kane
Hi  David,
 
The restriction is that you can't incorporate the trial key in your own
application.
You must buy a license.
 
I've not tested on 2.7 as yet so I can't suggest what may be the problem
there.  Needless to say Chipp and co' will fix it if it is indeed a
problem...
 
Scott

-Original Message-
From: David Burgun [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 15 February 2006 3:48 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; How to use Revolution
Subject: Re: Getting Started with a Database


Hi, 

I downloaded and installed this and running the test stack:

go URL "http://www.gadgetplugins.com/altsqlite/SQLite3Demo.rev";


seems to work ok, this (although there are problems running under RunRev
2.7, so I am using 2.6.1).

I can't seem to find out what the restrictions are on the Demo copy??

Thanks a lot
All the Best
Dave




On 13 Feb 2006, at 19:55, Scott Kane wrote:


Hi David,

Not sure if it has been mentioned or not to you,
but I heartly recommend altSQLite.  It's zero
configuration (database can be in the same folder
as your binary). it's pretty lean and is fast
enough for the number of records you are looking
at.

Check it out at:

http://www.altuit.com

Scott Kane



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Oh how much fun it is to claim votes back from Godzilla

2006-02-14 Thread Malte Brill

Bugzilla I mean. Just collected 25. as some of my pet bugs are gone. :-)

Thanks Runrev.

Malte, now looking for new pets...

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Sorting by dateTime

2006-02-14 Thread Gregory Lypny

Hello again,

There's obviously something I don't understand about sorting.  I  
typed this into the message box.


set useSystemDate to true
set the itemDelimiter to tab
put \
1 & tab & "01/10/1999 5:54 AM" & return & \
2 & tab & "30/09/1999 9:16 PM" & return & \
3 & tab & "15/08/1999 8:23 PM" into d
sort lines of d dateTime by second item in each
put d

And I get this back.

2   30/09/1999 9:16 PM
3   15/08/1999 8:23 PM
1   01/10/1999 5:54 AM

Revolution isn't treating the dates as strings; otherwise the order  
would be 1, 3, and 2, which it is when I omit dateTime from the  
direction of the sort.  I checked to make sure that my system date  
format is dd/mm/ and that the time uses a twelve-hour clock.


Any thoughts?

Gregory




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Using 'the backdrop'

2006-02-14 Thread Graham Samuel
In order to concentrate the minds of my users (schoolchildren), I  
have been using a do-it-yourself version of the backdrop idea which  
involves calculating the available screen real estate on the target  
machine. I recently tried to switch to the inbuilt Revolution way of  
doing this, using 'set the backdrop to ' but it seems to me  
not to work in a very cross-platform way (I'm talking about Macs and  
PCs, not Unix).


On the Mac, I still get the menuBar, and the dock swings into view  
when the mouse gets to the bottom of the screen; but on the PC, the  
whole screen gets covered, including the dock-like thing at the  
bottom of the screen (I can never remember what this is called -  
maybe it's the taskbar), with the result that you can't get back to  
the PC desktop without quitting the RunRev standalone.


Both these schemes have their advantages, but the key issue is that  
they don't provide the same user experience on the different  
platforms. I wondered how other people use 'the backdrop' in cross- 
platform situations?


Graham


 
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Re: Using 'the backdrop'

2006-02-14 Thread Richard Gaskin

Graham Samuel wrote:
On the Mac, I still get the menuBar, and the dock swings into view when 
the mouse gets to the bottom of the screen; but on the PC, the whole 
screen gets covered, including the dock-like thing at the bottom of the 
screen (I can never remember what this is called - maybe it's the 
taskbar), with the result that you can't get back to the PC desktop 
without quitting the RunRev standalone.


Both these schemes have their advantages, but the key issue is that they 
don't provide the same user experience on the different platforms. I 
wondered how other people use 'the backdrop' in cross-platform situations?


The other desktop objects have their own commands, giving you control 
over specific elements:


  set the backdrop to "blue"
  hide menubar
  show taskbar

On OS X, hiding the menubar also hides the Dock.

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copy locked text

2006-02-14 Thread Jerry Muelver
For a helpdesk application, I have fields with hyperlinks in their text. 
The

fields have lockText and traversalOn both set to true, so the links will
work. The user can mouse-drag to select text, Ctrl-C to copy (highlight
disappears... oh, well...), and Ctrl-V in another app to paste. Perfect.
Just what I need for helpdesk and CRM applications.

However, only the first such select-and-copy works. Select another, and 
when

you paste you get the first selection. Select another, even from the field
after is is blanked and rewritten, and you can paste only the first
selection. Less than perfect

I've tried "How do I allowing copying from lockText" in the Help file, 
which

got me this far. Now I need, "How do I copy again?" to keep me going.

- Jerry Muelver
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Re: Problem with Pass command

2006-02-14 Thread J. Landman Gay

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Perhaps someone can help with the following problem   I have involving the 
pass command.   I have a button that performs a certain action. A field (it 
could also be another button) overlies the button.   I'd like to arrange so that 
if I click on the field the message passes through it to the button.   How can 
I do this?   I've set the locktext of the field to true and had either no 
script associated with the field or inserted the following script:

on mouseUp
pass mouseUp
end mouseUp

Nothing happens though. How can I get the button to react?   Thanks very 
much.


As Klaus said, you'll have to use "send mouseup" to the button. The 
"pass" command will pass the message on through the message hierarchy, 
but since your button and your field are at the same level in the 
hierarchy, neither will see any messages that go through the other. 
Physical layering doesn't determine message order.


There's a good script conference stack on the message hierarchy that 
explains it very well.


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Re: copy locked text

2006-02-14 Thread Eric Chatonet

Hi Jerry,

Just try to set the autohilite of your field to true.
If so, highlight *should* not disappear and the right selected chunk  
*should* be copied.
Or there is another problem and I have not enough information to  
understand it :-)


Le 14 févr. 06 à 21:34, Jerry Muelver a écrit :

For a helpdesk application, I have fields with hyperlinks in their  
text. The
fields have lockText and traversalOn both set to true, so the links  
will
work. The user can mouse-drag to select text, Ctrl-C to copy  
(highlight
disappears... oh, well...), and Ctrl-V in another app to paste.  
Perfect.

Just what I need for helpdesk and CRM applications.

However, only the first such select-and-copy works. Select another,  
and when
you paste you get the first selection. Select another, even from  
the field

after is is blanked and rewritten, and you can paste only the first
selection. Less than perfect

I've tried "How do I allowing copying from lockText" in the Help  
file, which

got me this far. Now I need, "How do I copy again?" to keep me going.


Best Regards from Paris,
Eric Chatonet
 
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Re: Contrib to old topics - why isn't Rev more popular?

2006-02-14 Thread Garrett Hylltun


On Feb 14, 2006, at 10:29 AM, Jerry Daniels wrote:

This is the stuff of alternate workflows. Subtle but dramatic. And  
the perfect add-on sale for Revolution, if I may say so.  
Constellation can go as far as we can imagine it. Why not give it a  
shot?


Best,

Jerry Daniels


Eh.  I fear that my comment might have been taken the wrong  
way.  A.D.D. is the crux of my problem, not Constellation.   
Constellation is just fine and I don't regret the purchase.


With Rev open, stack open, tools, inspector, gadget bar,  
constellation open, docs browser open and of course all the pretty  
eye candy that is OSX  ;-)


Ok, seems I need to update anyway, I'm like using version 1.3 or  
something like that here.


-Garrett
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Cards within Stacks

2006-02-14 Thread Jeff Honken
Well here's a newbie question that I have.  Do all cards within the same
stack have to be the same size?  What I would like to do is present the
user with a card that they can input various search criteria.  The
program would then take that information and do a search on another card
within that stack.  i.e. User inputs last Name of a person and the form
queries the database displaying the results.  I know I can use the Ask
command but I would like to give multiple items that they can query on.
Is there a way to use a smaller card for this query box?  Jeff





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Re: Sorting by dateTime

2006-02-14 Thread J. Landman Gay

Gregory Lypny wrote:

Hello again,

There's obviously something I don't understand about sorting.  I  typed 
this into the message box.


set useSystemDate to true
set the itemDelimiter to tab
put \
1 & tab & "01/10/1999 5:54 AM" & return & \
2 & tab & "30/09/1999 9:16 PM" & return & \
3 & tab & "15/08/1999 8:23 PM" into d
sort lines of d dateTime by second item in each
put d

And I get this back.

230/09/1999 9:16 PM
315/08/1999 8:23 PM
101/10/1999 5:54 AM

Revolution isn't treating the dates as strings; otherwise the order  
would be 1, 3, and 2, which it is when I omit dateTime from the  
direction of the sort.  I checked to make sure that my system date  
format is dd/mm/ and that the time uses a twelve-hour clock.


Any thoughts?


Try this syntax:

  sort lines of d dateTime by item 2 of each

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Re: send "Rawkeydown param" problem

2006-02-14 Thread Howard Bornstein
On 2/12/06, J. Landman Gay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I'm in one of those black "I hate Rev" moods, based on my inability to
> > find the information I need to solve my problem.
>
> Hopefully you are only grey now.
>
> --

Yes, I looked at the new docs in 2.7 and they seem much improved.
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Re: Cards within Stacks

2006-02-14 Thread Sarah Reichelt
On 2/15/06, Jeff Honken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well here's a newbie question that I have.  Do all cards within the same
> stack have to be the same size?  What I would like to do is present the
> user with a card that they can input various search criteria.  The
> program would then take that information and do a search on another card
> within that stack.  i.e. User inputs last Name of a person and the form
> queries the database displaying the results.  I know I can use the Ask
> command but I would like to give multiple items that they can query on.
> Is there a way to use a smaller card for this query box?  Jeff

You can't set a card size - it just takes it's size from the size of
the stack that contains it. However you can change the stack size by
script as you navigate through the cards, if that is what you want to
do.

A neater solution is to use a sub-stack for such purposes and make it
whatever size you like. It then opens while the main stack is still
open.

HTH,
Sarah
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Re: Cards within Stacks

2006-02-14 Thread Klaus Major

Hi Jeff,

Well here's a newbie question that I have.  Do all cards within the  
same
stack have to be the same size?  What I would like to do is present  
the

user with a card that they can input various search criteria.  The
program would then take that information and do a search on another  
card
within that stack.  i.e. User inputs last Name of a person and the  
form

queries the database displaying the results.  I know I can use the Ask
command but I would like to give multiple items that they can query  
on.

Is there a way to use a smaller card for this query box?  Jeff


sure, set the stack's size "on opencard" and back to old size "on  
closecard".


Cardsize = stacksize! :-)


Regards

Klaus Major
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.major-k.de

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GOTO Equivalent in Rev?

2006-02-14 Thread Garrett Hylltun

Is there a goto equivalent in Rev?

I have a popup menu, button bar and menu bar, all of which offer the  
same functions, cut, copy, paste etc.  I don't want to have separate  
code for each of the related handlers.  I want the copy button, copy  
menu entry and copy popup menu entry to all use just one handler (per  
say).


Thanks,
-Garrett
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Re: 2.7 Bugs

2006-02-14 Thread Éric Miclo

Is that a documentation's bug?

When looking at the dictionary of version 2.7, the new transcript  
terms (like antiAlliased or changedDesktop) show "2.7" in the  
platform column and if you click on the corresponding line there is  
no definition (the bottom field that should contain it retains the  
one of the previous selected term).


ÉrIC

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Re: Split Command

2006-02-14 Thread Martin Baxter

Gregory Lypny wrote:

Hello everyone,

If I create an array from a list field using the split command and  
return as the only delimiter, am I guaranteed that the number of each  
line becomes its own array element key?  That is, does line 1 become  
array element 1, line 2 array element 2, and so on?  This seems to be  
the case in a couple of experiments I've done.


Gregory


Yes, that's my experience, and I've done that a lot. But in case you are 
expecting the array keys to be numerically ordered, note that you should 
not rely on that. If you loop through the elements later you may find 
the order of keys is not what you are expecting, especially if you have 
edited the array in the meantime.


Martin Baxter
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Re: GOTO Equivalent in Rev?

2006-02-14 Thread Peter T. Evensen
You can have the handlers for the buttons and the handlers for the menu all 
call the same handlers for the cut, copy, and paste, etc.  You would put 
the CopyStuff handler in the Stack (probably) and then have the following 
in the button (for example):


on mouseUp
CopyStuff
end mouseUp

in the menu handler you'd have:

on menuPick pMenuItem
if pMenuItem is "Copy" then
CopyStuff
end if
end menuPick

in the stack you'd have:

on CopyStuff
-- copy the appropriate stuff to the clipboard.
end CopyStuff

At 03:24 PM 2/14/2006, you wrote:

Is there a goto equivalent in Rev?

I have a popup menu, button bar and menu bar, all of which offer the
same functions, cut, copy, paste etc.  I don't want to have separate
code for each of the related handlers.  I want the copy button, copy
menu entry and copy popup menu entry to all use just one handler (per
say).

Thanks,
-Garrett
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Please clarify incompatibility re 2.7

2006-02-14 Thread Timothy Miller

Hi,

Jacque's previous message regarding incompatible stack formats 
worries me. It's probably no big deal, but, better safe than sorry.


If I have been running my stacks without problem on version 2.6.1, in 
Macintosh OS X, and I now upgrade to 2.7, what kind of problems, if 
any, will I have if I need to use the Mac OS X Rev version 2.6.1 
again, for some reason?


Actually, I'm talking about Dreamcard, not RR.

Yes, I am extensively backed up, but I'm continually adding new data 
to my stacks. Backups soon become obsolete and data loss costs me 
plenty money.


I use DC version 2.6 for for Macintosh OS 9.2 occasionally, and would 
like to keep on doing it. If I upgrade to 2.7 for Macinotsh OS X, 
will I deprive myself of the opportunity to run those stacks on Rev 
version 2.6 for Macintosh OS 9.2?


AFAIK, 2.7 isn't ready for Mac OS 9.2. I guess 2.6.1 might be the end 
of the line for that platform.


Thanks in advance,

Tim
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Re: Contrib to old topics - why isn't Rev more popular?

2006-02-14 Thread Garrett Hylltun


On Feb 14, 2006, at 10:29 AM, Jerry Daniels wrote:


Garrett, et al.,

I don't think RunRev will mind us talking about Constellation on  
the board as they're selling it


Well, it helps if I freaking update now and then!  I'm using like  
version 1.3 here.



Just updated to the latest, and this is a lot different.  With props  
and other things out of the way, and the drawer with all the gadgets  
listed, I think this is much better.  :-)


Thanks Jerry,
-Garrett
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Re: Cards within Stacks

2006-02-14 Thread Eric Chatonet

Hi Jeff,

Even if Sarah pointed out the right direction from an ergonomic point  
of view, you might be interested in the "How to Change Card  
Dimensions Smoothly" tutorial (the way used in the property inspector  
when you switch to another pane).
You will access this tutorial through "Tutorials Picker" a free  
plugin that interfaces with the So Smart Software website in order to  
display all available tutorials stacks directly from the web.

You will find it by going to http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/.
Revolution/Plugins or Tutorials section.

Best Regards from Paris,
Eric Chatonet

Le 14 févr. 06 à 22:17, Jeff Honken a écrit :

Well here's a newbie question that I have.  Do all cards within the  
same
stack have to be the same size?  What I would like to do is present  
the

user with a card that they can input various search criteria.  The
program would then take that information and do a search on another  
card
within that stack.  i.e. User inputs last Name of a person and the  
form

queries the database displaying the results.  I know I can use the Ask
command but I would like to give multiple items that they can query  
on.

Is there a way to use a smaller card for this query box?  Jeff


 
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2.7 BUG: Getting Started with a Database

2006-02-14 Thread Chipp Walters

Hi David and Scott,

altSQLite3 does work fine with 2.7. Just tested it, but you have to know 
where to install the DLL/bundle to.


Find the folder where Rev in installed, then be sure and copy the 
bundle/DLL to the folder below.


/Externals/Database Drivers

Next, update your database drives.txt file to have the last line read:

altSQLite3,dbsqlite3.dll

so it will appear in the standalone settings for proper inclusion into 
the standalone.


NOTE!!!

Currently, standalone inclusion of 3rd party database drivers DOES NOT 
APPEAR TO WORK IN Rev 2.7. RunRev is aware of this problem and is 
working on fixing it.


So..the workaround is to manually copy the dbsqlite3.dll to your folder 
named:



/Externals/Database Drivers

inside your standalone application folder.

I assume the same is true for Mac, though I haven't tested it yet.

Once this is done, everything should work fine.

We will be upgrading the altSQLite3 Demo stack to manage this process 
automatically (other than the standalone builder bug).


best,

Chipp

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Re: GOTO Equivalent in Rev?

2006-02-14 Thread Garrett Hylltun

I feel a Mr Burns impression coming on now..

"Exccellent!"

Thank you Peter :-)
-Garrett


On Feb 14, 2006, at 1:47 PM, Peter T. Evensen wrote:

You can have the handlers for the buttons and the handlers for the  
menu all call the same handlers for the cut, copy, and paste, etc.   
You would put the CopyStuff handler in the Stack (probably) and  
then have the following in the button (for example):


on mouseUp
CopyStuff
end mouseUp

in the menu handler you'd have:

on menuPick pMenuItem
if pMenuItem is "Copy" then
CopyStuff
end if
end menuPick

in the stack you'd have:

on CopyStuff
-- copy the appropriate stuff to the clipboard.
end CopyStuff

At 03:24 PM 2/14/2006, you wrote:

Is there a goto equivalent in Rev?

I have a popup menu, button bar and menu bar, all of which offer the
same functions, cut, copy, paste etc.  I don't want to have separate
code for each of the related handlers.  I want the copy button, copy
menu entry and copy popup menu entry to all use just one handler (per
say).

Thanks,
-Garrett
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Re: Please clarify incompatibility re 2.7

2006-02-14 Thread Peter T. Evensen

Stacks saved with 2.7 will not open on anything prior to 2.7.

Jacque was referring to an undocumented way of forcing 2.7 to save stacks 
in the old format.  The issue is any new properties introduced in 2.7, like 
the antiAliased property of a graphic, would be lost doing so.


At 03:49 PM 2/14/2006, you wrote:

Hi,

Jacque's previous message regarding incompatible stack formats worries me. 
It's probably no big deal, but, better safe than sorry.


If I have been running my stacks without problem on version 2.6.1, in 
Macintosh OS X, and I now upgrade to 2.7, what kind of problems, if any, 
will I have if I need to use the Mac OS X Rev version 2.6.1 again, for 
some reason?


Actually, I'm talking about Dreamcard, not RR.

Yes, I am extensively backed up, but I'm continually adding new data to my 
stacks. Backups soon become obsolete and data loss costs me plenty money.


I use DC version 2.6 for for Macintosh OS 9.2 occasionally, and would like 
to keep on doing it. If I upgrade to 2.7 for Macinotsh OS X, will I 
deprive myself of the opportunity to run those stacks on Rev version 2.6 
for Macintosh OS 9.2?


AFAIK, 2.7 isn't ready for Mac OS 9.2. I guess 2.6.1 might be the end of 
the line for that platform.


Peter T. Evensen
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Bad image

2006-02-14 Thread curry


Has anyone ever seen an error message in Rev that says something 
about "Bad image"? I have a user reporting this keeps popping up, and 
have requested the word-for-word error message but want to go ahead 
and see if anyone has heard of it.


Thank you,

Curry
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Re: Please clarify incompatibility re 2.7

2006-02-14 Thread J. Landman Gay

Timothy Miller wrote:

Hi,

Jacque's previous message regarding incompatible stack formats worries 
me. It's probably no big deal, but, better safe than sorry.


If I have been running my stacks without problem on version 2.6.1, in 
Macintosh OS X, and I now upgrade to 2.7, what kind of problems, if any, 
will I have if I need to use the Mac OS X Rev version 2.6.1 again, for 
some reason?


Stacks saved in version 2.7 will no longer open in version 2.6.1 or 
earlier. You will get an error that the stack is corrupted. They will 
still open fine in 2.7.


There is a property you can set before saving in 2.7 that will make the 
stack compatible with 2.6. However, the information has been removed 
from the What's New text file and it isn't in the dictionary. I'm not 
sure why. Possibly it is because any 2.7 features you've used in a stack 
will be lost if saved in 2.6 format and they don't want people to risk 
that loss.



AFAIK, 2.7 isn't ready for Mac OS 9.2. I guess 2.6.1 might be the end

> of the line for that platform.

The download page on the web site says that an OS 9 version is to be 
available soon, so it doesn't look like they are planning to discontinue it.


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set the name of last group not working?

2006-02-14 Thread Josh Mellicker

The doc says:

   Tip:  To refer to the newly-created group, use the last keyword:

 group button "Yes" and button "No"
 set the name of last group to "Do It"


Yet with this script:

clone group "dave"
set the name of it to "spooky" -- correctly names the clone
group "spooky" AND fld "water"
set the name of last group to "drinking" --Rev renames the cloned  
group "spooky" to "drinking", and leaves the name of the master group  
to grp "id 1028"



I get the same result when changing the last line to:

set the name of it to "drinking"


---

Is this a bug in Rev?

Or am I doing something wrong?

How do you name a newly formed group that consists of a group and a  
field?



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Re: set the name of last group not working?

2006-02-14 Thread Peter T. Evensen
Are you on the card in which you are creating these groups?  There was a 
bug where the ID of a cloned or copied object was not being set properly, 
which caused all sorts of bizarre results (like what you describe).  This 
bug only happened if you were not on the card in which you were creating 
the objects.   I believe it was fixed in 2.7.  This bug might happen in 
other cases.  Did you try this with 2.7?


At 04:34 PM 2/14/2006, you wrote:

The doc says:

   Tip:  To refer to the newly-created group, use the last keyword:

 group button "Yes" and button "No"
 set the name of last group to "Do It"


Yet with this script:

clone group "dave"
set the name of it to "spooky" -- correctly names the clone
group "spooky" AND fld "water"
set the name of last group to "drinking" --Rev renames the cloned
group "spooky" to "drinking", and leaves the name of the master group
to grp "id 1028"


I get the same result when changing the last line to:

set the name of it to "drinking"


---

Is this a bug in Rev?

Or am I doing something wrong?

How do you name a newly formed group that consists of a group and a
field?


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Screen DPI

2006-02-14 Thread Peter T. Evensen
What is the screen DPI.  I know on Mac, it is usually 72.  I'm wanting to 
create a pseudo-WYSIWYG card editor that lets you specify a size, like 3 x 
5, and it displays an appropriately sized card for one to place text 
on.   72 on Windows seems a bit small.  I was just wondering if anyone had 
a rule of thumb they used.


Thanks!

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RevZilla Reminder re: 2.7 Release

2006-02-14 Thread Ken Ray
For those of you who have used RevZilla, keep in mind that with version 2.7
now out, you will have that choice automatically in the "Version" popup of
the "Post a Bug" screen, but it will not default to 2.7 unless you go to the
"Options" tab and change the value in the "Default Version" field to "2.7".

Also, check the bugs you've voted on (go to the "Voting" tab and click "Show
Items I Have Voted On"). If any of the bugs you voted on have been closed,
resolved, or verified, you'll get a dialog box letting you know that. Click
"Yes" to see them in the list. Click the "State" column to sort by the state
of the bug, and then for each bug marked "RESO" or "CLOS", select the bug
and choose "Remove My Votes From This Item" in the action menu in the
lower-left corner of the window. This will allow you to recover your votes
and re-apply them to new bugs. :-)

(NOTE: I will make it easier to recover the votes from multiple bugs for a
future version of RevZilla so you don't have to do them one at a time...)

And for those of you who *haven't* tried RevZilla, you can download it at:

  http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads/RevZilla2.htm

Thanks for listening!

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software
Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Contrib to old topics - why isn't Rev more popular?

2006-02-14 Thread Jerry Daniels

Garrett,

Me and Mary Jane (the Mrs. Daniels) were talking about your situation  
with Constellation, etc.  and I was quite hopeful you'd flourish  
under Constellation 2.1's UI. The elements of v2.1 aren't all that  
different than v1.3, but they're being used much more effectively.


Mary Jane didn't think v2.1 would matter as A.D.D is A.D.D. But then  
she's not a mutt like me, she's all loaded up with Irish genes and  
you know what they call Gaelic foresight don't you? Death.


Best,

Jerry Daniels





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On Feb 14, 2006, at 4:09 PM, Garrett Hylltun wrote:



On Feb 14, 2006, at 10:29 AM, Jerry Daniels wrote:


Garrett, et al.,

I don't think RunRev will mind us talking about Constellation on  
the board as they're selling it


Well, it helps if I freaking update now and then!  I'm using like  
version 1.3 here.



Just updated to the latest, and this is a lot different.  With  
props and other things out of the way, and the drawer with all the  
gadgets listed, I think this is much better.  :-)


Thanks Jerry,
-Garrett
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Re: set the name of last group not working?

2006-02-14 Thread Josh Mellicker


On Feb 14, 2006, at 2:38 PM, Peter T. Evensen wrote:


Are you on the card in which you are creating these groups?


Yes.


  There was a bug where the ID of a cloned or copied object was not  
being set properly, which caused all sorts of bizarre results (like  
what you describe).  This bug only happened if you were not on the  
card in which you were creating the objects.   I believe it was  
fixed in 2.7.  This bug might happen in other cases.  Did you try  
this with 2.7?


Yes.

I simplified it down to:

 group grp "daveGroup" AND fld "spooky"
 set the name of last group to "newName" --Rev renames the wrong  
thing- how do you rename the top group?



Someone download this stack, click the blue button and tell me I'm  
crazy!


http://revcoders.org/stacks/badNaming.rev








At 04:34 PM 2/14/2006, you wrote:

The doc says:

   Tip:  To refer to the newly-created group, use the last keyword:

 group button "Yes" and button "No"
 set the name of last group to "Do It"


Yet with this script:

clone group "dave"
set the name of it to "spooky" -- correctly names the clone
group "spooky" AND fld "water"
set the name of last group to "drinking" --Rev renames the cloned
group "spooky" to "drinking", and leaves the name of the master group
to grp "id 1028"


I get the same result when changing the last line to:

set the name of it to "drinking"


---

Is this a bug in Rev?

Or am I doing something wrong?

How do you name a newly formed group that consists of a group and a
field?


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Re: set the name of last group not working?

2006-02-14 Thread Josh Mellicker

As Homer would say: "Doh"!

set the name of the owner of the last group to "whatever"

works.


(it is an error in Rev or the doc though!)



On Feb 14, 2006, at 2:34 PM, Josh Mellicker wrote:


The doc says:

   Tip:  To refer to the newly-created group, use the last keyword:

 group button "Yes" and button "No"
 set the name of last group to "Do It"


Yet with this script:

clone group "dave"
set the name of it to "spooky" -- correctly names the clone
group "spooky" AND fld "water"
set the name of last group to "drinking" --Rev renames the cloned  
group "spooky" to "drinking", and leaves the name of the master  
group to grp "id 1028"



I get the same result when changing the last line to:

set the name of it to "drinking"


---

Is this a bug in Rev?

Or am I doing something wrong?

How do you name a newly formed group that consists of a group and a  
field?



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Combo Box

2006-02-14 Thread Jeff Honken
Thanks to all of those that answered my question on resizing cards.  I
have one more question for the day.  How do you program in the menu
picks for a Combo Box?  I've been scanning the docs but it's alluding
me.  I know I can use the IDE GUI to add them but I would like to
program them in.  Jeff




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Re: Screen DPI

2006-02-14 Thread simplsol

Peter,
Long ago all Macs used 72 DPI for screen resolution. Today it is more 
like 90 DPI but can be more or less. Flat panels may be over 120 DPI. 
And resolutions are bound to go higher as everyone tries to accommodate 
pictures and movies.
More madness: most 17" screens and most 19" screens have the same 
resolution - so the DPI varies significantly depending on the screen 
where it is viewed.
I would just design the at print resolution, 72 DPI (3" x 5" = 216 x 
360).

Paul Looney

-Original Message-
From: Peter T. Evensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: use-revolution-lists.runrev.com 
Sent: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 16:52:08 -0600
Subject: Screen DPI

   What is the screen DPI. I know on Mac, it is usually 72. I'm wanting 
to create a pseudo-WYSIWYG card editor that lets you specify a size, 
like 3 x 5, and it displays an appropriately sized card for one to 
place text on. 72 on Windows seems a bit small. I was just wondering if 
anyone had a rule of thumb they used. 

 
Thanks! 
 
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314-629-5248 or 888-628-4588  
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Re: Cards within Stacks

2006-02-14 Thread Mark Wieder
Sarah-

Tuesday, February 14, 2006, 1:17:10 PM, you wrote:

> You can't set a card size - it just takes it's size from the size of
> the stack that contains it. However you can change the stack size by
> script as you navigate through the cards, if that is what you want to
> do.

There *are* those of us, though, who find this behavior very annoying,
as when the Property Inspector changes its size...

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Re: GOTO Equivalent in Rev?

2006-02-14 Thread Mark Wieder
Garrett-

Tuesday, February 14, 2006, 2:15:11 PM, you wrote:

> I feel a Mr Burns impression coming on now..

> "Exccellent!"

Uh oh. Sounds like you just had one of those runrev "Aha!" moments...

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Re: Please clarify incompatibility re 2.7

2006-02-14 Thread Mark Wieder
Jacque-

> Stacks saved in version 2.7 will no longer open in version 2.6.1 or
> earlier. You will get an error that the stack is corrupted. They will
> still open fine in 2.7.

And interestingly, plugins that have been saved with 2.7 don't even
show up in the plugins list in 2.6.1.

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Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 29, Issue 32

2006-02-14 Thread Gregory Lypny

Thank you, Jacqueline.

Actually, both work on my home Mac, which suggests to me that  
Revolution did not pick up the changes to my system settings at  
work.  Perhaps I needed to quit the program and boot it back up again.


Gregory

On Tue, Feb 14, 2006, at 5:41 PM, use-revolution- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Message: 15
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 15:12:50 -0600
From: "J. Landman Gay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sorting by dateTime
To: How to use Revolution 
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Gregory Lypny wrote:

Hello again,

There's obviously something I don't understand about sorting.  I   
typed

this into the message box.

set useSystemDate to true
set the itemDelimiter to tab
put \
1 & tab & "01/10/1999 5:54 AM" & return & \
2 & tab & "30/09/1999 9:16 PM" & return & \
3 & tab & "15/08/1999 8:23 PM" into d
sort lines of d dateTime by second item in each
put d

And I get this back.

230/09/1999 9:16 PM
315/08/1999 8:23 PM
101/10/1999 5:54 AM

Revolution isn't treating the dates as strings; otherwise the order
would be 1, 3, and 2, which it is when I omit dateTime from the
direction of the sort.  I checked to make sure that my system date
format is dd/mm/ and that the time uses a twelve-hour clock.

Any thoughts?


Try this syntax:

   sort lines of d dateTime by item 2 of each


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Re: Split Command

2006-02-14 Thread Gregory Lypny
Thanks, Martin.  That's exactly what I needed to know.  I recall now  
that the order of the keys is a different story.


Gregory

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Message: 21
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 21:39:56 +
From: Martin Baxter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Split Command
To: How to use Revolution 
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Gregory Lypny wrote:

Hello everyone,

If I create an array from a list field using the split command and
return as the only delimiter, am I guaranteed that the number of each
line becomes its own array element key?  That is, does line 1 become
array element 1, line 2 array element 2, and so on?  This seems to be
the case in a couple of experiments I've done.

Gregory


Yes, that's my experience, and I've done that a lot. But in case  
you are
expecting the array keys to be numerically ordered, note that you  
should

not rely on that. If you loop through the elements later you may find
the order of keys is not what you are expecting, especially if you  
have

edited the array in the meantime.

Martin Baxter


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converting a standalone back to a stack?

2006-02-14 Thread kee nethery
Is this possible? What I want to do is to capture some code that I  
thought I'd never need again that only exists in a standalone. Other  
than opening the standalone contents with a text editor and searching  
for the script, is there a way to just convert the standalone back to  
a stack?


Thanks, Kee Nethery
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Re: Getting Started with a Database

2006-02-14 Thread Kay C Lan
On 2/15/06, David Burgun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I have now looked that three database solutions and none of them seem
> to work and there seems to be very little "getting-started"
> information supplied with them.
>

Just confirm that you have a copy of the MySQL reference manual. I can't
remember if this is part of the 'full download', if not you can download it
here:

http://dev.mysql.com/doc/

I use the pdf version as Preview makes it extremely fast (after a slow
opening as the file is HUGE) to "find" terms.

Chapter 3 is a very straight forward 'Tutorial' which you can do through the
Terminal, although as previously posted CocoaMySQL is your friend and I
can't emphasis enough how easy this makes life.

If you are having troubles right from the start of the Tutorial then back
track to Chapter 2 which covers installation and a few possible problems
that you may encounter.

Once you have a functional installation, and confirmed that you can connect
locally, with CocoaMySQL the learning curve needed to create, add, update
and query the database that you describe will be minor.

For your initial setup of CocoaMySQL the enteries will be:
Host: localhost
User: root
Password: [yourpassword]

NOTE: the installation instruction for MySQL make it clear that after a
virgin install the root account (which is the MySQL root account NOT the OSX
root account so the password can be different) has no password but your
first action should be to allocate a password for the account.

Once connected you will have only one DB to look at, the mysql DB which you
shouldn't touch for a while until you understand what it does - but
basically it keeps a DB on all the users and DBs you create with MySQL.

>From here you are a DB Demi-god, you can use the CocoaMySQL GUI to create,
in your case:
1 x db
1 x table
4 or 5 fields (you might consider an Id field unless the Name field can be
guaranteed to be unique in all cases)

My guess would be that apart from your Id and Size field ( which would be
unsigned INTegers) your fields would be VARCHAR with sizes varying from 4
for the Type, to 256 for the ImageFilePathName (although this could be
limiting if the path names are very very long - so you might need a TEXT
field).

Initially, to make troubleshooting easy, I'd suggest you allow all fields to
be NULL.

Once you have CocoaMySQL (or Terminal) and MySQL talking to each other and
you have created your DB, the I recommend you use Rev WITHOUT Trevor's libDB
to confirm that you can use the Rev DB calls (not the DB Query Builder) to
communicate with MySQL. This should be a quick simple stack with 4 or 5
fields a button called something appropriate like 'Add Data'. In your button
you should have these calls:

-- this assumes that your db is called myTestDb, your MySQL root account
password is myTestDbPassword and your stack is called MyStack
-- this is a 9 line script so be carefull of where line breaks have occured

on mouseUp
if (the propDbRef of stack "MyStack" = "") then
 set the propDbRef of stack "MyStack" to
revOpenDatabase("MySQL",,"myTestDb","root","myTestDbPassword")
end if

put "INSERT INTO myTestDB (ID,Name,Type,SizeImageFilePathName) VALUES (" &
quote & field "ID" of stack "MyStack" & quote & comma & quote & field "Name"
of stack "MyStack" & quote & comma & quote & field "Size" of stack "MyStack"
& quote & comma & quote & field "ImageFilePathName" of stack "MyStack" &
quote & ")"

revExecuteSQL the propDbRef of stack "MyStack",tMyDbQuery
on mouseUp

Use the debugger and Variable Watcher to step through the script to see what
tMyDbQuery looks like.

You should then be able to change all the data in the fields and press the
"Add Data" button at your hearts content and then confirm the data entered
your Db by using the 'Content' pane of CocoaMySQL. Note that to see the
updates you will need to deselect your Test DB and select it again to get an
updated view of the Db.

Having achieved this you can then go ahead an use Trevor's excellent libDb
knowing that MySQL works, you have a Db that has data, and Rev can
communicate with the Db. From here on any failures to add,alter or retrieve
data will be a failure in your own code - reassuring isn't it;-)


HTH
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Sheepshaver

2006-02-14 Thread Mark Wieder
All-

I see there's a new experimental version of Sheepshaver for Intel Macs
running OSX 10.4.4. Has anyone tried this out?

http://www.gibix.net/dokuwiki/en:projects:sheepshaver

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Re: Cards within Stacks

2006-02-14 Thread Sarah Reichelt
> > You can't set a card size - it just takes it's size from the size of
> > the stack that contains it. However you can change the stack size by
> > script as you navigate through the cards, if that is what you want to
> > do.
>
> There *are* those of us, though, who find this behavior very annoying,
> as when the Property Inspector changes its size...
>

I agree completely :-)

Remember the tutorial that came with Rev 1.1? I hated the way the
window appeared to leap all over my screen...

Sarah
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Re: Combo Box

2006-02-14 Thread Sarah Reichelt
On 2/15/06, Jeff Honken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks to all of those that answered my question on resizing cards.  I
> have one more question for the day.  How do you program in the menu
> picks for a Combo Box?  I've been scanning the docs but it's alluding
> me.  I know I can use the IDE GUI to add them but I would like to
> program them in.  Jeff

Put "Option 1" & cr & "Option 2" & cr & "Option 3" into myList
put myList into btn "Combo"

Cheers,
Sarah
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Revolution 2.7 documentation panic

2006-02-14 Thread Hervé Chaudet
Where is it possible to find the transcript commands and functions  
for each library (old button  "objects"), the bookmarks, and the  
quick reference guides in the new Revolution (2.7) documentation ?


I need these functionnalities before migrating to the new version.

Help appreciated !

H. Chaudet

 
-
Herve Chaudet  e-mail :  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Laboratoire d'Informatique Fondamentale - UMR CNRS 6166
  Faculte de Medecine - 27, Bd Jean Moulin - 13385 Marseille cedex 5  
- France

  Tel 33-(0)-491-79-19-10 ; Fax 33-(0)-491-79-40-13
 
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Re: Please clarify incompatibility re 2.7

2006-02-14 Thread J. Landman Gay

Mark Wieder wrote:

Jacque-



Stacks saved in version 2.7 will no longer open in version 2.6.1 or
earlier. You will get an error that the stack is corrupted. They will
still open fine in 2.7.



And interestingly, plugins that have been saved with 2.7 don't even
show up in the plugins list in 2.6.1.



I guess I'm not surprised. The file header has changed, and that's what 
the engine uses to identify a file as a "stack". So 2.6.x doesn't see 
the new stacks, though 2.7 recognizes both.


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HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
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RE: Combo Box

2006-02-14 Thread Jeff Honken
Sarah,
  Thanks,  Jeff

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sarah
Reichelt
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 7:59 PM
To: How to use Revolution
Subject: Re: Combo Box

On 2/15/06, Jeff Honken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks to all of those that answered my question on resizing cards.  I
> have one more question for the day.  How do you program in the menu
> picks for a Combo Box?  I've been scanning the docs but it's alluding
> me.  I know I can use the IDE GUI to add them but I would like to
> program them in.  Jeff

Put "Option 1" & cr & "Option 2" & cr & "Option 3" into myList
put myList into btn "Combo"

Cheers,
Sarah
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Rev 2.7 docs- improved performance

2006-02-14 Thread Kurt Kaufman
At first glance, the stack-based documentation for 2.7 seems greatly  
improved in terms of responsiveness.  No more waiting for the  
spinning busy cursor when searching for a term (both Mac OSX and WinXP).

Thank you!

Kurt
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Congratulations to Rev Team!

2006-02-14 Thread Sivakatirswami
Congratulations to the whole Rev team for the 2.7 update. The new web  
site design, docs interface and feature shows a great deal of  
visionary think and a lot of hard work. I've been "praying" for a lot  
of new these new feature and there they are!


Thank you

Sivakatirswami



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New Features Where's the Scoop?

2006-02-14 Thread Sivakatirswami

Can anyone help me (us) find  info on the new features?

in particular:

Syntax and Sample code for the following?

* Window level transitions. Now you can perform transitions with alpha
channels on an entire window, allowing effects such as rippling  
applications

on the desktop.

* New image rendering options. Render an image from any object on- 
screen,

preserving the alpha channel, then transform and save.

* Multi-monitor Support. Revolution solutions can now be built to  
support

multiple monitors, including different backdrops on each monitor.


I'm particularly interested in the latter feature but a search  
through the dictionary under "monitor" or "screen" doesn't reveal the  
new "powers"  the doc still say:


screenloc()

If the system has more than one monitor, the screenLoc function  
returns the rectangle of the main screen.


We are interested in implementing a Keynote or Powerpoint kind of  
option to have the presentor's notes on one screen the screen that is  
mirror out to the projector port for the audience.. on the main  
monitor...or vice versa...


Typically one has a powerbook and the "public" screen is monitor 2  
which is plugged into the projector and the "private"

screen is the LCD of the box itself.


Sivakatirswami


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Re: New Features Where's the Scoop?

2006-02-14 Thread Trevor DeVore

On Feb 14, 2006, at 9:08 PM, Sivakatirswami wrote:


Can anyone help me (us) find  info on the new features?

in particular:

Syntax and Sample code for the following?


Take a look at the Whats_New.txt file in the Revolution 2.7  
application folder.



* Window level transitions. Now you can perform transitions with alpha
channels on an entire window, allowing effects such as rippling  
applications

on the desktop.


Search for "Visual Effects".

* New image rendering options. Render an image from any object on- 
screen,

preserving the alpha channel, then transform and save.


I think this is the new import/export snapshot.  Search for "Import/ 
Export Snapshot of Object" in the Whats_New file.


* Multi-monitor Support. Revolution solutions can now be built to  
support

multiple monitors, including different backdrops on each monitor.


Search for "Multiple Monitor Support".

Hope this helps,


--
Trevor DeVore
Blue Mango Multimedia
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Re: converting a standalone back to a stack?

2006-02-14 Thread Phil Davis
Apparently stacks are separated from the engine and from each other 
(when there are substacks) by a certain string of chars. Something 
appeared on the list ages ago about this - I can't look for it right 
now. I think someone posted code to extract the stacks.


Phil Davis


kee nethery wrote:
Is this possible? What I want to do is to capture some code that I  
thought I'd never need again that only exists in a standalone. Other  
than opening the standalone contents with a text editor and searching  
for the script, is there a way to just convert the standalone back to  a 
stack?


Thanks, Kee Nethery


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RE: RevZilla Reminder re: 2.7 Release

2006-02-14 Thread MisterX
Hi Ken

> For those of you who have used RevZilla, keep in mind that 
> with version 2.7 now out, you will have that choice 
> automatically in the "Version" popup of the "Post a Bug" 
> screen, but it will not default to 2.7 unless you go to the 
> "Options" tab and change the value in the "Default Version" 
> field to "2.7".

I was amazed at this feature.

> Also, check the bugs you've voted on (go to the "Voting" tab 
> and click "Show Items I Have Voted On"). If any of the bugs 
> you voted on have been closed, resolved, or verified, you'll 
> get a dialog box letting you know that. Click "Yes" to see 
> them in the list. Click the "State" column to sort by the 
> state of the bug, and then for each bug marked "RESO" or 
> "CLOS", select the bug and choose "Remove My Votes From This 
> Item" in the action menu in the lower-left corner of the 
> window. This will allow you to recover your votes and 
> re-apply them to new bugs. :-)

but I can't get my fixed bugs listed in my bugs.

my voted bugs tells me I have fixed bugs and when I tell it that I want to
see them, I never see them!

in bugzilla I have 18 bugs, in revzilla only 13 show up...

REOP is not shown... Granted in bugzilla when I voted and removed my bugs
they still show up in my bug list which RevZilla doesn't.

And then for my buglist, I can't see ALL my bugs (fixed for example) to
reopen one or the other...

well, then Rev just crashed badly... But there's an NTEvent!!! 

cheers
Xavier

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Re: converting a standalone back to a stack?

2006-02-14 Thread kee nethery

thank you.

I did find that I could open the raw stack file under Mac OS X by  
opening the package and examining the content and finding the file  
that had the name of the source stack. Was able to open that source  
stack as a file with a text editor. I wouldn't want to try to rebuild  
it as a stack but the little bit of script code that I needed was  
findable by using Search in the text editor.


Thanks,
Kee Nethery


On Feb 14, 2006, at 10:01 PM, Phil Davis wrote:

Apparently stacks are separated from the engine and from each other  
(when there are substacks) by a certain string of chars. Something  
appeared on the list ages ago about this - I can't look for it  
right now. I think someone posted code to extract the stacks.


Phil Davis

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