Dumb Window size Question

[stomfi]

I'm using a runrev runtime on a Linux Live CD.
Depending on the platform, the live CD sets the screen size from the 
capabilities of the video card, using a frame buffer.

This can be any valid size from 1200x1024 to 640x480.

I can easily find out the screen size with the xwininfo shell tool.

I want to know how I can tell my runrev windows and all objects on 
them to scale for these different screen sizes.


I am a real newbie for the under the hood stuff as I use runrev for 
the GUI bits and do all the information processing with the 
wonderful Linux shell tools.

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Re: Mac stacks look like Windows

[Marty Knapp]

Same for me. Also get buttons that have the OS 9 look rather than the 
Aqua look.

Marty Knapp


So far my experience with Rev 2.7 has left much to be desired.
The latest:

When I open a stack that has been automatically converted to the new 
file format by Rev 2.7, with a new standalone (created with Rev 2.7) I 
get the Windows appearance (blue hilights on buttons, raised scroll 
bars, etc.). None of these stacks has ever been on a Windows computer. 
I have no Windows standalones. I don't run Windows. This has never 
happened before.


Before I add this to Bugzilla, I'd like to know if anyone else has 
observed this. (OS X 10.4.3, Al PB, 1 gig., Rev 2.7)

Paul Looney


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Re: Mac stacks look like Windows

[David Vaughan]

On 18/02/2006, at 15:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



So far my experience with Rev 2.7 has left much to be desired.
The latest:

When I open a stack that has been automatically converted to the new
file format by Rev 2.7, with a new standalone (created with Rev 2.7) I
get the Windows appearance (blue hilights on buttons, raised scroll
bars, etc.). None of these stacks has ever been on a Windows computer.
I have no Windows standalones. I don't run Windows. This has never
happened before.

Before I add this to Bugzilla, I'd like to know if anyone else has
observed this. (OS X 10.4.3, Al PB, 1 gig., Rev 2.7)


Not seen on a few stacks here, Paul
OSX 10.4.5 PB17 1GB Rev 2.7

No other repeatable problems with 2.7 either, so far. On one occasion  
Rev crashed not long after Constellation closed the object inspector  
next to the script pane but left the slide-out window frame behind.


regards
David


Paul Looney

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Re: drag 'n' drop reordering

[Josh Mellicker]

True dat.

Thanks so much, that is awesome!


On Feb 17, 2006, at 8:42 PM, Scott Rossi wrote:


Recently, Josh Mellicker wrote:


 go url "http://www.tactilemedia.com/download/getinline.rev";



That's just what I was thinking of... but man, that's even more code
than I was coming up with :o


That's because the code is dealing with formatted text within a single
field, not discrete button objects which is (arguably) easier to  
deal with.


Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design
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Mac stacks look like Windows

[simplsol]

So far my experience with Rev 2.7 has left much to be desired.
The latest:

When I open a stack that has been automatically converted to the new 
file format by Rev 2.7, with a new standalone (created with Rev 2.7) I 
get the Windows appearance (blue hilights on buttons, raised scroll 
bars, etc.). None of these stacks has ever been on a Windows computer. 
I have no Windows standalones. I don't run Windows. This has never 
happened before.


Before I add this to Bugzilla, I'd like to know if anyone else has 
observed this. (OS X 10.4.3, Al PB, 1 gig., Rev 2.7)

Paul Looney
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Problems with 2.7 hanging on Table tab panel access

[simplsol]

Before entering this in Bugzilla I'd like to know if others are having 
the same problem:


Almost every time I click on the Table tab in the Object Inspector, Rev 
hangs. If it doesn't hang on opening the panel, it hangs when I click 
the first option (whatever it is).


Is anyone else experiencing this? Is anyone else still using the 
builtin Inspector?

Paul Looney
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Re: Followup on disabled files in 2.7

[simplsol]

Sarah,
Are the new stacks still identified as Rev stacks in the Finder?
Paul Looney


-Original Message-
From: Sarah Reichelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: How to use Revolution 
Sent: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 14:22:00 +1000
Subject: Re: Followup on disabled files in 2.7

   > Is anyone having (or not having) a problem opening stacks saved in 
2.7

- without using the Recent Files menu?
Has anyone made a new standalone in 2.7 - and been able to open stacks
saved in 2.7?


I have done this. I have a configuration app that reads one of the
substacks of a second app. I had to re-build the config app using 2.7,
but once I did this, it was able to open the stack from the second app
(also built using 2.7) without any problem.

This is using OS X 10.4.4 ona couple of different computers, but I
didn't check the filetypes.

Sarah
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Re: drag 'n' drop reordering

[Scott Rossi]

Recently, Josh Mellicker wrote:

>>  go url "http://www.tactilemedia.com/download/getinline.rev";

> That's just what I was thinking of... but man, that's even more code
> than I was coming up with :o

That's because the code is dealing with formatted text within a single
field, not discrete button objects which is (arguably) easier to deal with.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design
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Re: Followup on disabled files in 2.7

[Sarah Reichelt]

> Is anyone having (or not having) a problem opening stacks saved in 2.7
> - without using the Recent Files menu?
> Has anyone made a new standalone in 2.7 - and been able to open stacks
> saved in 2.7?

I have done this. I have a configuration app that reads one of the
substacks of a second app. I had to re-build the config app using 2.7,
but once I did this, it was able to open the stack from the second app
(also built using 2.7) without any problem.

This is using OS X 10.4.4 ona couple of different computers, but I
didn't check the filetypes.

Sarah
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Re: drag 'n' drop reordering

[Josh Mellicker]

Thanks!

That's just what I was thinking of... but man, that's even more code  
than I was coming up with :o



On Feb 17, 2006, at 6:47 PM, Scott Rossi wrote:


Recently, Josh Mellicker wrote:


I have a set of buttons that I'd like the user to be able to reorder
by dragging and dropping


Here's one way (execute in your message box):

  go url "http://www.tactilemedia.com/download/getinline.rev";

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design
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Re: drag 'n' drop reordering

[Scott Rossi]

Recently, I wrote:

>> I have a set of buttons that I'd like the user to be able to reorder
>> by dragging and dropping

> Here's one way (execute in your message box):
>
>   go url "http://www.tactilemedia.com/download/getinline.rev";

Oops -- just re-read your message.  The above is for lines of text, which
may not fit your situation.  Relating to the sample you cite, storing the
locs of your buttons and using the move command should do what you need.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design
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Re: drag 'n' drop reordering

[Scott Rossi]

Recently, Josh Mellicker wrote:

> I have a set of buttons that I'd like the user to be able to reorder
> by dragging and dropping

Here's one way (execute in your message box):

  go url "http://www.tactilemedia.com/download/getinline.rev";

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design
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Re: Disabled files in 2.7 - Followup

[simplsol]

Jacque,
My pleasure:
It is now bug 3336
Paul Looney

-Original Message-
From: J. Landman Gay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: How to use Revolution 
Sent: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 15:56:42 -0600
Subject: Re: Disabled files in 2.7 - Followup

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
> The original 2.6.1 Type and Creator are 
> RSTK and Revo 
> After opening a stack in 2.7 the Type and Creator are converted to 
> STK and MacO 
 
 This has got to be a bug. The plist for Rev 2.7 still lists "RSTK" as 
the proper file type, and the creator code is still "Revo". 

 
 I looked at a newly saved stack and saw that the creator was "MacO" 
and the file type was "STK". It is the incorrect file type 
that will prevent stacks from opening, but the creator code needs to be 
fixed as well. 

 
Can you bugzilla this for us? 
-- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com 
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Re: Advice? Purchasing Quandary...

[simplsol]

Judy,
Based on the numerous, fundamental and significant problems I've found 
in a brief use of 2.7, I wouldn't recommend waiting for the new and 
probably similar Media.
2.6.1 is a much more solid product, which your students should find 
useful. And they will get a lesson in software evolution.

Best wishes for the new semester.
Paul Looney

-Original Message-
From: Chipp Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: How to use Revolution 
Sent: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 14:12:52 -0600
Subject: Re: Advice? Purchasing Quandary...

  Hi Judy, 
 
 I'd contact Kevin about this. I'm sure he can work something out with 
you seeing as how you're promoting his product at the university level. 
It's certainly in his best interests to make it work for you. 

 
-Chipp 
 
Judy Perry wrote: 
 
> Any recommendations? 
 
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drag 'n' drop reordering

[Josh Mellicker]

I have a set of buttons that I'd like the user to be able to reorder  
by dragging and dropping



a la

http://demo.script.aculo.us/ajax/sortable_elements

http://tool-man.org/examples/sorting.html



I can think of several ways to approach this... but I think my noob  
brain is overcomplicating things.



Does anyone have a more elegant way to achieve this?


(I also need to know the final order once the user is done sorting)
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RE: Installer design and backdrops

[Ken Apthorpe]

MeshInstall looks nicer, pending a final release. And, if you could have a
MacOSX version available as well anytime real soon now  it would be the
installer of my dreams.

Ken
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http://www.nabble.com/Installer-design-and-backdrops-t1136505.html#a3000411
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Re: Stack structure, media and memory?

[Ken Apthorpe]

Klaus and Jacque

Thank you both for your informative replies.  Time to experiment...

Ken
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Re: [ANN] libDatabase 2.0.1.20

[Pierre Sahores]

Le 17 févr. 06 à 21:24, Trevor DeVore a écrit :


On Feb 17, 2006, at 12:17 PM, Pierre Sahores wrote:

Indeed, i'm very interested by your libDatabase solution and i  
will test it extensivelly as soon as possible. She is probably  
more suitable than mine in about pedagogic tasks. Thanks for your  
work on this great lib. I will report you how she works for me and  
some collegues i'm, at this time, working with on a Web GIS system.


Pierre,

Thanks.  I would be very interested to get your feedback.  Question  
- Do you know what the accepted form of escaping strings for  
insertion into the PostGreSQL database is?


value='the value' is the main rule to apply. Special chars alike  
lonly quote or simple quote need to be preceded with \. The best is  
to see the man for more deteailled explainations or, else, to test  
and read the pg error messages whose are always very well wrotten,  
detailled and helpfull in terms of a pedagocial point of view.


I don't use PostGreSQL myself but I've read information that says  
PostGreSQL supports C-style escaped characters (\f, \r, etc.) but  
that this was going to be deprecated and you only need to escape  
single quotes with '' and that to use escaped characters you should  
prefix the value to insert with an "E" (or something like that).   
Right now libDatabase uses the escape characters, but I'm thinking  
it should just escape the single quote.


I don't never use "E" or so as escape char and don't know about this  
escape way.



--
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Blue Mango Multimedia
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Best,

--
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www.sahores-conseil.com

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Followup on disabled files in 2.7

[simplsol]

Yesterday I noted that opening some 2.6.1 stacks in 2.7 made it 
impossible for 2.7 to recognize them again after they were closed. They 
appeared grayed out from the Open menu. The only way that 2.7 would 
open them was through the Recent Files menu. This is a problem with a 
standalone - that doesn't have a recent files menu. 
 Richard wisely suggested remaking a new standalone in 2.7 because that 
should correspond with the new file format. I have done so. (By the way 
the standalone builder has improved significantly over the years - 
seems to still have a bug applying the selected icon to the new app - 
and wants to cut off 22 pixels on OS X - but is certainly usable.) 
 The new standalone had the same problem. The new app will not open any 
stack previously opened by 2.7 

I dusted off ResEdit and discovered the following: 
The original 2.6.1 Type and Creator are 
RSTK and Revo 
After opening a stack in 2.7 the Type and Creator are converted to 
STK and MacO 
 
 Is anyone having (or not having) a problem opening stacks saved in 2.7 
- without using the Recent Files menu? 
 Has anyone made a new standalone in 2.7 - and been able to open stacks 
saved in 2.7? 

(OS X 10.4.4, Al PB 1.67, 1 gig., Rev 2.7) 
 Paul Looney 
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Standalones, externals, file paths in 2.7

[Jon Seymour]

Hi,

I decided to make the leap to 2.7 and have found it a little  
depressing. Thanks to Jacqueline for the answer on the image library  
2.6 --> 2.7, but I'm curious as to how in the world I was going to  
figure that out? Why didn't the installer just move or copy the  
library to its new home? On a similar note:


I'm using OS X to build standalones for Mac and Win32. I use a small  
"splash screen" stack as the app as recommended by many. I've been  
really careful to handle all the nuances/differences in x-platform  
filepath structure in scripts, and the process has been working for  
months through countless new builds. Now, first, when I save as  
standalone for Win32 under 2.7, out of nowhere comes an "Externals"  
folder in the same directory as the exe. It's empty, but...I do use  
the altBrowser plugin and have carefully assigned the location of its  
externals in another location.  When I launch the exe, the splash  
screen shows and then fails to go anywhere. Two possible problems, I  
think: first, there is a change in the methodology used to construct  
filepaths for Win in 2.7, or...this Externals folder wants to house  
altBrowser and that is somehow causing a problem. Any thoughts? I do  
not develop on Win so I'm a little stuck.


Can someone point me in the direction of any documentation on changes  
in the standalone settings or file path construction? I'm a little  
frazzled with my app breaking at this point!


Thanks,

Jon

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Re: Disabled files in 2.7 - Followup

[J. Landman Gay]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


The original 2.6.1 Type and Creator are
RSTK and Revo
After opening a stack in 2.7 the Type and Creator are converted to
STK and MacO


This has got to be a bug. The plist for Rev 2.7 still lists "RSTK" as 
the proper file type, and the creator code is still "Revo".


I looked at a newly saved stack and saw that the creator was "MacO" and 
the file type was "STK". It is the incorrect file type that 
will prevent stacks from opening, but the creator code needs to be fixed 
as well.


Can you bugzilla this for us?
--
Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
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RE: Sqlite on Linux

[Jeff Honken]

Chipp,
I haven't received anything from Chris.  Do you have a direct email that
I can email him.  I'd like him to try

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
and
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Jeff
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chipp
Walters
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 1:51 PM
To: How to use Revolution
Subject: Re: Sqlite on Linux

Jeff,

Chris Bohnert of Altuit has previously sent 2 support emails to you and 
it appears you aren't getting them (though we have no record of a 
bounce). Perhaps you can check your JUNK folder or give us another email

address to respond to?

We generally try our best at getting back to our valued customers! :-)

thanks,

Chipp

Jeff Honken wrote:
> I emailed Altuit yesterday but I havn't heard back from them.

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Disabled files in 2.7 - Followup

[simplsol]

Yesterday I noted that opening some 2.6.1 stacks in 2.7 made it 
impossible for 2.7 to recognize them again after they were closed. They 
appeared grayed out from the Open menu. The only way that 2.7 would 
open them was through the Recent Files menu. This is a problem with a 
standalone - that doesn't have a recent files menu.
 Richard wisely suggested remaking a new standalone in 2.7 because that 
should correspond with the new file format. I have done so. (By the way 
the standalone builder has improved significantly over the years - 
seems to still have a bug applying the selected icon to the new app - 
and wants to cut off 22 pixels on OS X - but is certainly usable.)
 The new standalone had the same problem. The new app will not open any 
stack previously opened by 2.7

I dusted off ResEdit and discovered the following:
The original 2.6.1 Type and Creator are
RSTK and Revo
After opening a stack in 2.7 the Type and Creator are converted to
STK and MacO

 Is anyone having (or not having) a problem opening stacks saved in 2.7 
- without using the Recent Files menu?
 Has anyone made a new standalone in 2.7 - and been able to open stacks 
saved in 2.7?

(OS X 10.4.4, Al PB 1.67, 1 gig., Rev 2.7)
 Paul Looney
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Re: Sqlite on Linux

[Chipp Walters]

Jeff,

Chris Bohnert of Altuit has previously sent 2 support emails to you and 
it appears you aren't getting them (though we have no record of a 
bounce). Perhaps you can check your JUNK folder or give us another email 
address to respond to?


We generally try our best at getting back to our valued customers! :-)

thanks,

Chipp

Jeff Honken wrote:

I emailed Altuit yesterday but I havn't heard back from them.


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Re: Is SMIL still alive?

[Pierre Sahores]

Because CSS2+AJAX are yet so powerfull and suitables, SMIL don't  
probably make lots sense anymore ...

--
Pierre Sahores
www.sahores-conseil.com


Le 17 févr. 06 à 00:44, Thomas McCarthy a écrit :



I've been looking into smil file format recently, but

1. most things on the net look a little dated.
2. QuickTime doesn't seem to like smil files.
3. Firefox dosen't seem to like smil pages

Is this format losing support?
thanks

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Re: [ANN] libDatabase 2.0.1.20

[Trevor DeVore]

On Feb 17, 2006, at 12:17 PM, Pierre Sahores wrote:

Indeed, i'm very interested by your libDatabase solution and i will  
test it extensivelly as soon as possible. She is probably more  
suitable than mine in about pedagogic tasks. Thanks for your work  
on this great lib. I will report you how she works for me and some  
collegues i'm, at this time, working with on a Web GIS system.


Pierre,

Thanks.  I would be very interested to get your feedback.  Question -  
Do you know what the accepted form of escaping strings for insertion  
into the PostGreSQL database is?


I don't use PostGreSQL myself but I've read information that says  
PostGreSQL supports C-style escaped characters (\f, \r, etc.) but  
that this was going to be deprecated and you only need to escape  
single quotes with '' and that to use escaped characters you should  
prefix the value to insert with an "E" (or something like that).   
Right now libDatabase uses the escape characters, but I'm thinking it  
should just escape the single quote.



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Re: [ANN] libDatabase 2.0.1.20

[Pierre Sahores]

Dear Trevor,

"well, all circumstances with PostGreSQL"... True even if there are  
work-arounds to let Rev+PostgreSQL become the best partners on both  
the Linux platform (shell pipes to psql) and Mac OS X (an home-made  
revisited RevDB).


Indeed, i'm very interested by your libDatabase solution and i will  
test it extensivelly as soon as possible. She is probably more  
suitable than mine in about pedagogic tasks. Thanks for your work on  
this great lib. I will report you how she works for me and some  
collegues i'm, at this time, working with on a Web GIS system.


Best Regards from Paris,

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Le 16 févr. 06 à 23:18, Trevor DeVore a écrit :

I've uploaded a new version of libDatabase 2.  RevDB has some  
issues when using arrays with binding under certain circumstances  
(well, all circumstances with PostGreSQL).  What this means  to the  
average user is that libdb_updateTable and libdb_addToTable  
wouldn't work.


web: 
zip file: 



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Re: Advice? Purchasing Quandary...

[Chipp Walters]

Hi Judy,

I'd contact Kevin about this. I'm sure he can work something out with 
you seeing as how you're promoting his product at the university level. 
It's certainly in his best interests to make it work for you.


-Chipp

Judy Perry wrote:


Any recommendations?


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Re: Export Snapshot

[J. Landman Gay]

Marty Knapp wrote:

I've located the crash log, but I'm not familiar with bugzilla - where 
do I access it?




Include a description of the problem, attach your crash log, and if you 
like, a screenshot. Be sure to set the version number of the bug report 
to 2.7.


Or you can use Ken Ray's Revzilla stack to submit reports:



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Re: Stack structure, media and memory?

[J. Landman Gay]

Ken Apthorpe wrote:


However, I can't find info on what exactly happens to loaded media when a
card (or substack) is closed, in terms of memory purging.  I've had other
stand alone media-heavy apps hang because of memory overload so it's an
issue for me.


This is never an issue in Revolution. Memory is handled automatically. 
When a card is closed, the memory its media used is recycled. It also 
makes excellent use of virtual memory as necessary. You don't even have 
to think about it. All you really need to know is that you'll need 
enough RAM initially to load the entire stackfile (about as much as the 
file size of your stack on disk; this includes the substacks in the 
file, of course.)


That is the advantage to using external media files, rather than 
embedding them into the stack. A referenced media file will be unloaded 
when it is no longer needed, and it doesn't count as part of the stack 
size when the stack is opened in RAM. Movie files, audio files, and 
other large media files should, in general, always be referenced from 
disk. You won't have to worry about memory if you do that.


If you want to worry about it anyway, you can always just set the 
filename of the player in question to empty. That removes all the media 
content and clears memory. But you really don't have to do that.


If you are replacing one movie in a player with another (by changing the 
player's filename reference) then memory is swapped as needed. The old 
file is dumped and the new media is loaded.



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Re: Spam:Re: Index for Revolution PDF Document

[Peter T. Evensen]

Since the user's guide isn't final, I don't think the index would be that 
useful.  I would assume they'd generate one when the document is finalized.


At 01:27 PM 2/17/2006, you wrote:

David Burgun wrote:

Hi,
Since I have the full version of Acrobat, I can create indexes and  have 
created one for the RunRev PDF. I am not sure if I am allowed to

distribute this, but if I am, I would be happy to send it anyone that
wants it!


Actually, I think you should send it to RR. :)


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Re: Path problem in RevGOURL + How to find current directory path

[Alex Tweedly]

MITTAL Pradeep Kumar wrote:


Hello,

I want to launch html file which is present in the current directory (
from where the exe runs)

But the syntax like this does not work.
revGoURL "file:///index.htm"

Perhaps the RevGOUrl requires complete path of the file.

Do you know how can we find out what is the current direcory path in
rev??
 


You can use the built in function "defaultFolder" (or simply "folder")
Note that this gives you a full path - so you should not add "//" to the 
start of it



So that I can use revGoUrl "file://" & curPath & "/index.htm"

 


put the defaultFolder into curPath
RevGoURL ("file:" & curPath & "/index.htm")-- Note simply 'file:' 
without any leading /s



It's always a good idea to add the parentheses in a case like this.
For RevGoURL, I think it would be OK without it, but other cases would 
not be, e.g.


   put URL ("file:" & curPath & "/index.htm") into myData
puts the content of the index.html file into the variable

   put URL "file:" & curPath & "/index.htm" into myData
puts the URL "file:" (i.e. empty),  followed by the path, followed by 
the string "index.htm" into the variable.


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Re: Index for Revolution PDF Document

[J. Landman Gay]

David Burgun wrote:

Hi,

Since I have the full version of Acrobat, I can create indexes and  have 
created one for the RunRev PDF. I am not sure if I am allowed to  
distribute this, but if I am, I would be happy to send it anyone that  
wants it!


Actually, I think you should send it to RR. :)

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Re: Revolution 2.7 documentation panic

[J. Landman Gay]

Thomas McGrath III wrote:
My document opened fine in "Preview" on OSX and did not even try to  
open Acrobat. ???


... Just double checked and it goes right to Preview and not Acrobat  at 
all.


Same here. I suspect the problem occurs mostly on Windows machines.

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Re: Standalone Application and dB

[Trevor DeVore]

On Feb 17, 2006, at 11:13 AM, Benjamin Bacon wrote:


Hey Everyone,

Trying to save a standalone application that uses MySQL. I am quite  
the newbie, start using Revolution yesterday, so this maybe in the  
manual but I couldn't find it. When saving a standalone  
application, do I need to move the MySQL libraries (dll I guess on  
Windoze)  somewhere to use them? I am developing on a Windows  
machine right now but I am more familiar with Linux/OS X.


For windows you need to put the libmySQL.dll file in the same  
directory as the application.  I think the standalone builder will do  
this for you though.



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Re: Database query for pull down option/menu

[Benjamin Bacon]

Hey thanks! I will give this a try too. Scott pointed me to a great 
example he made and it solved the problem!


/Benjamin

Josh Mellicker wrote:

Wow! One I might be able to help on.

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In Revolution, put this script into your option menu:


ON menupick pChoice

put pChoice into queryValue
put  pChoice & " chosen" into field "status"

get libUrlFormData("queryvalue", queryValue)
post it to url 
"http://www.yourweburl.com/thepathtoyour/phpscript.php";


IF the result is empty THEN -- executed OK
put it into fld "listOfFiles"
ELSE
put the result into field "task_desc" -- there was some 
error in executing the PHP script

END IF


END menupick

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Now, make a text file on your server (called "phpscript.php" or 
"whatever.php"):



$result = mysql_query($sql) or die("Error #" . mysql_errno() . ":" . 
mysql_error() );



if (mysql_num_rows($result)) {

//found at least one

while ($row=mysql_fetch_array($result)) {
echo $row['myFileName']."\n";
}


} else {

//didn't find any

echo "I did not find any records.";


}


?>




On Feb 16, 2006, at 9:59 PM, Benjamin Bacon wrote:


Hi everyone,

I am trying to create two pull down menu's that are based on MySQL 
query's. Then based on what the user choses from the pull down menu's 
they can get a listing of available files based on what is already in 
the database. Can anyone help me on this one. I greatly appreciate 
the help. I am quite fresh with Revolution development and I have 
look in the manual and searched the web/documentation.


Thanks!
Benjamin
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Standalone Application and dB

[Benjamin Bacon]

Hey Everyone,

Trying to save a standalone application that uses MySQL. I am quite the 
newbie, start using Revolution yesterday, so this maybe in the manual 
but I couldn't find it. When saving a standalone application, do I need 
to move the MySQL libraries (dll I guess on Windoze)  somewhere to use 
them? I am developing on a Windows machine right now but I am more 
familiar with Linux/OS X.


Thanks!!

Benjamin

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Re: [HUMOUR?] Re: Custom image library 2.6 -> 2.7

[Stephen Barncard]

yeah, Had the same feelings. I really despise that "My" terminology 
myself. Total lemming-words, like Win this and Win that. It's 
Microsoft-Speak and I,  a card-holdling, 
pry-from-my-cold-dead-fingers Mac diehard, have a bit of hesitation 
typing those words. And now, it's etched in stone in the code 
forever. Kinda like the RFC misspellings:


"So what if somebody (probably Tim Berners-Lee, who wrote the 
original HTTP spec) was a better engineer than speller? Yes, the 
correct spelling is referrer, but the term referer is embedded into 
the code of millions of browsers and servers and it's too late to 
change now."



J. Landman Gay wrote:
If it does not already exist, create a folder in your Documents 
folder called "My Revolution [edition]". That is, if you have the 
Enterprise


I'm not at all sure I could bring myself to name a folder beginning 
with the word "my". Every nerve twitches at the thought. I already 
have a serious problem with "My Computer", "My Documents" etc. To me 
this is like "My first coloring book :-)", eeeuuuw. Surprise! I am 
not a 5 year old. Are folders whose names do not begin with the word 
"my" in some way not really mine. Or is this actually a dynamic 
scoping mechanism like in Perl?


Martin Baxter


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Re: [HUMOUR?] Re: Custom image library 2.6 -> 2.7

[J. Landman Gay]

Martin Baxter wrote:
> J. Landman Gay wrote:
>
>> If it does not already exist, create a folder in your Documents folder
>> called "My Revolution [edition]". That is, if you have the Enterprise
>
>
> I'm not at all sure I could bring myself to name a folder beginning with
> the word "my". Every nerve twitches at the thought. I already have a
> serious problem with "My Computer", "My Documents" etc. To me this is
> like "My first coloring book :-)", eeeuuuw. Surprise! I am not a 5 year
> old. Are folders whose names do not begin with the word "my" in some way
> not really mine. Or is this actually a dynamic scoping mechanism like in
> Perl?


Frankly, I have exactly the same reaction. I abhor "My" anything. I 
think it is a symptom of My Mac background. My my.


However, on an up note, this is scheduled to be changed in a later 
release, so that the name of that folder can be assigned by the user. 
We're still early in the game with 2.7, so for now it is a hard-coded 
path but that will change.


I could not bring myself to make a folder called "My Enterprise" either, 
so what I did was copy the words from an email and paste it into a new 
folder title. Try that. It eases the pain.


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Path problem in RevGOURL + How to find current directory path

[MITTAL Pradeep Kumar]

Hello,
 
I want to launch html file which is present in the current directory (
from where the exe runs)
 
But the syntax like this does not work.
revGoURL "file:///index.htm"
 
Perhaps the RevGOUrl requires complete path of the file.
 
Do you know how can we find out what is the current direcory path in
rev??
So that I can use revGoUrl "file:///" & curPath & "/index.htm"
 
Please let me know if you have any ideas.
 
Thanks
Best Regards
Pradeep
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Database query for pull down option/menu

[Josh Mellicker]

Wow! One I might be able to help on.

___

In Revolution, put this script into your option menu:


ON menupick pChoice

put pChoice into queryValue
put  pChoice & " chosen" into field "status"

get libUrlFormData("queryvalue", queryValue)
post it to url "http://www.yourweburl.com/thepathtoyour/ 
phpscript.php"


IF the result is empty THEN -- executed OK
put it into fld "listOfFiles"
ELSE
put the result into field "task_desc" -- there was some  
error in executing the PHP script

END IF


END menupick

___

Now, make a text file on your server (called "phpscript.php" or  
"whatever.php"):



$result = mysql_query($sql) or die("Error #" . mysql_errno() . ":" .  
mysql_error() );



if (mysql_num_rows($result)) {

//found at least one

while ($row=mysql_fetch_array($result)) {
echo $row['myFileName']."\n";
}


} else {

//didn't find any

echo "I did not find any records.";


}


?>




On Feb 16, 2006, at 9:59 PM, Benjamin Bacon wrote:


Hi everyone,

I am trying to create two pull down menu's that are based on MySQL  
query's. Then based on what the user choses from the pull down  
menu's they can get a listing of available files based on what is  
already in the database. Can anyone help me on this one. I greatly  
appreciate the help. I am quite fresh with Revolution development  
and I have look in the manual and searched the web/documentation.


Thanks!
Benjamin
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Advice? Purchasing Quandary...

[Judy Perry]

Here's the issue:

The semester started a week or so ago.

Unfortunately, this coincides with the new Rev release in which (a) DC is
no more but there is Media (which won't be out for a few more weeks) and
(b) the file format in 2.7 has changed, meaning that even if my students
purchase DC, anything they've worked on using the 30 day trial (while
waiting for purchasing to go through) will be unusable by the time they
get their DC license.

If they purchase Media, I don't really know when they'll get it, but at
least it will be in the 2.7 file format.  OTOH, as I had already quoted
them the DC price, I'll have to eat the $70 difference (between a DC
10-pack and 10 individual Media licences).

Yikes

Any recommendations?

Thanks,

Judy


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global variables vs. custom properties POLL!

[Josh Mellicker]

Just curious what the count will be if I can get a few folks voting:


just two clicks:


one here:

http://revcoders.org/global-variables-vs-custom-properties/


one more to vote (poll to right of page)
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MonsieurX's TAOO Tiki is gone!

[MisterX]

Sorry if this comes as more bad news... I had to take the TAOO Tiki web site
down on MonsieurX.
 
The volume of traffic was going to exceed - for "this month" alone and just
for the tiki - by 2X the traffic capacity which i've never exceeded in the
past years including all my mad driving videos, mp3s and hoard of stacks!
This is amazing, and it was just a startup test for tiki without any
referencing from the top site! Did i get hacked ? what happened? I just dont
have the budget, or time to look into it...
 
For the dozen users who registered, and really gave a big hand, i present my
most profound apologies.
 
Not all is lost, dont despair... The TAOO project is still being furiously
developped...
MonsieurX is still there along with all the goodies that make my cyber
garage...
 
As Arnold said: "I'll be back"...
 
Cheers and hava great weekend!
Xavier
http://monsieurx.com - Not just NitroMethane for your revIDE
 
 
 
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Re: Missing Chapter 8 & 9

[simplsol]

Documentation is always a work in process.
But the 2.7 doc has a table of contents that lists chapters which do 
not exist.
Would be nice to have something like "known problems". How could anyone 
tell if these chapters were supposed to be in the current edition or 
not. Other than this list, how can anyone tell if problems such as 
these have already been reported - the email address listed in the 
preface doesn't help see other reports.
Chapter 9 would seem to be particularly relevant in that it proposed to 
describe the file paths which have changed in the new version.

PL
PS
Now my ISP is reporting that the link:
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not working.

-Original Message-
From: Peter T. Evensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: How to use Revolution 
Sent: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 11:11:11 -0600
Subject: Re: Missing Chapter 8 & 9

   If you read the preface, the user's guide is a work in progress. I 
believe chapters 8 & 9 are coming and they are soliciting feedback on 
what is currently there. 

 
At 10:12 PM 2/16/2006, you wrote: 
 >Is the new pdf for the documentation in 2.7 missing chapters 8 & 9? I 
>can't find them in mine. If someone else has the same experience with 

theirs, let me know and I'll Bugzilla it. 

>Paul Looney 
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RE: [HUMOUR?] Re: Custom image library 2.6 -> 2.7

[MisterX]

I was thinking about in My MOjO (sounds good don't it?)... but after reading
wikipedia (and learning another thing) I thought it was at my nono to say
such a thing no matter how loosely typed ;).

so in my hOhO... it is...

> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Mark Wieder
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> To: How to use Revolution
> Subject: Re: [HUMOUR?] Re: Custom image library 2.6 -> 2.7
> 
> xavier-
> 
> Friday, February 17, 2006, 7:46:18 AM, you wrote:
> 
> > actually i should have said  In My OHO since iM on windoze... ;)
> 
> ...or maybe hOHO...
> 
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Re: video screen-capture on Windows

[SB]

Thanks, Chipp!

Sandy


Check out Camtasia at www.techsmith.com

best,
Chipp

SB wrote:


What are some good Windows softwares that will do audio-video screen
captures?


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Re: [HUMOUR?] Re: Custom image library 2.6 -> 2.7

[Mark Wieder]

Martin-

Friday, February 17, 2006, 1:11:47 AM, you wrote:

> I'm not at all sure I could bring myself to name a folder beginning with
> the word "my". Every nerve twitches at the thought. I already have a
> serious problem with "My Computer", "My Documents" etc. To me this is
> like "My first coloring book :-)", eeeuuuw. Surprise! I am not a 5 year
> old. Are folders whose names do not begin with the word "my" in some way
> not really mine. Or is this actually a dynamic scoping mechanism like in
> Perl?

IMO one of the signs of the downfall of western civilization is that
the cartoon interface of XP and OSX is not just accepted but admired.

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Re: [HUMOUR?] Re: Custom image library 2.6 -> 2.7

[Mark Wieder]

Martin-

Friday, February 17, 2006, 1:11:47 AM, you wrote:

> I'm not at all sure I could bring myself to name a folder beginning with
> the word "my". Every nerve twitches at the thought. I already have a
> serious problem with "My Computer", "My Documents" etc. To me this is
> like "My first coloring book :-)", eeeuuuw. Surprise! I am not a 5 year
> old. Are folders whose names do not begin with the word "my" in some way
> not really mine. Or is this actually a dynamic scoping mechanism like in
> Perl?

ROTFL. I'm surprised RR didn't call it "My Plugins".

...but as long as there's no talking paper clip I'm still on board.

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Re: PDF Document Title Incorrect???

[David Burgun]

Done!

On 17 Feb 2006, at 17:39, Kevin Miller wrote:


On 17/2/06 17:11, "David Burgun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Has anyone noticed that the title property of the PDF document is
"Microsoft Word - User Guide 2 " ?!?!?!?


We've provided new material and set up an email address  
specifically for
feedback so we can build on it.  We've published this address  
together with
our intentions for the material in the Preface, which is on Page 1  
of the
new User's Guide.  Please read this preface, then use the email  
address

listed there for any and all feedback, so we can properly address it.
Unfortunately, we cannot properly address this kind of feedback on the
mailing list.

Kind regards,

Kevin

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Re: Disabled files in 2.7

[Mark Wieder]

Paul-

Friday, February 17, 2006, 4:42:02 AM, you wrote:

> As much as "misery loves company", I'm sorry you share this problem.
> Did you have it in prior versions as well?
> I my case it started when the stack was open as Rev hung (while trying
> to open the Table panel in the Inspector.

Yes, for me at least it's not a 2.7 thing. And my stack does open
properly, just not reliably in the Recent Files menuItem. I went
through and cleaned out the history preference and it still comes back
to haunt me.

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Re: Revolution 2.7 documentation panic

[Mark Wieder]

Charles-

Friday, February 17, 2006, 5:36:36 AM, you wrote:


> On Feb 17, 2006, at 2:35 AM, Mark Wieder wrote:

  hard-coded path to Adobe
 Reader
>>
>>> You're kidding!
>>
>> It'll be fixed in some point-release down the line. But apparently I'm
>> the only person around here with Acrobat installed.

> Maybe. But I try never to use Adobe Acrobat Reader on the Mac.  
> Preview is noticeably faster, and I usually have it running in the  
> dock, so the delay would be much less than if the other app has to  
> open. I don't see why this would be hard-wired at all, since  
> resolving filetypes is what an OS is for. . . . But this is OT by now
> (especially since I'm not on 2.7 at this point!). Sorry.

I should have mentioned the hard-coded path is on Windows. OSX does
indeed open Preview and all is well there.

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Re: PDF Document Title Incorrect???

[Kevin Miller]

On 17/2/06 17:11, "David Burgun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Has anyone noticed that the title property of the PDF document is
> "Microsoft Word - User Guide 2 " ?!?!?!?

We've provided new material and set up an email address specifically for
feedback so we can build on it.  We've published this address together with
our intentions for the material in the Preface, which is on Page 1 of the
new User's Guide.  Please read this preface, then use the email address
listed there for any and all feedback, so we can properly address it.
Unfortunately, we cannot properly address this kind of feedback on the
mailing list.

Kind regards,

Kevin

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Re: video screen-capture on Windows

[Josh Mellicker]

We use Camtasia and are very happy with it.

On Feb 16, 2006, at 2:46 PM, SB wrote:


Hi folks,

We are playing videos of screen captures in our Rev product.

On the Mac, the software we use to capture the videos is Snapzpro.

What are some good Windows softwares that will do audio-video  
screen captures?


Thanks,
Sandy

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Re: [HUMOUR?] Re: Custom image library 2.6 -> 2.7

[Mark Wieder]

xavier-

Friday, February 17, 2006, 7:46:18 AM, you wrote:

> actually i should have said  In My OHO since iM on windoze... ;)

...or maybe hOHO...

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Re: Spam:Re: Index for Revolution PDF Document

[David Burgun]

Hi,

It's the same PDF file, I have just created a separate index file  
that can be used in conjunction with the PDF you download yourself.  
You double-click on a file called RRIndex.pdx and it allows you to  
enter words or phrases and when you hit search it gives a list of the  
lines where this appears in the PDF file. Double-clicking on one of  
these lines will open the PDF document at the line where it appear. I  
have only tried this on Mac OS X, not sure if it will work on other  
platforms.


All the Best
Dave

On 17 Feb 2006, at 17:14, Peter T. Evensen wrote:

The latest version is available at http://downloads.runrev.com/ 
userguide/userguide.pdf


This one doesn't have an index.

I'm guessing RunRev would probably prefer that people download and  
comment on the latest version from the official source.


At 11:05 AM 2/17/2006, you wrote:

Hi,

I am not sure if I am allowed to send it out, I don't want to
infringe any copyright issues. Does anyone know if this is allowed or
not?

Thanks
Dave

On 17 Feb 2006, at 16:59, Mikey wrote:


Dave,
Please send me a copy of the document with the index...

Mike.


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Re: Spam:Re: Index for Revolution PDF Document

[Peter T. Evensen]

The latest version is available at 
http://downloads.runrev.com/userguide/userguide.pdf


This one doesn't have an index.

I'm guessing RunRev would probably prefer that people download and comment 
on the latest version from the official source.


At 11:05 AM 2/17/2006, you wrote:

Hi,

I am not sure if I am allowed to send it out, I don't want to
infringe any copyright issues. Does anyone know if this is allowed or
not?

Thanks
Dave

On 17 Feb 2006, at 16:59, Mikey wrote:


Dave,
Please send me a copy of the document with the index...

Mike.


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PDF Document Title Incorrect???

[David Burgun]

Hi,

Has anyone noticed that the title property of the PDF document is  
"Microsoft Word - User Guide 2 " ?!?!?!?


Guess this is wrong???

All the Best
Dave

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Re: Missing Chapter 8 & 9

[Peter T. Evensen]

If you read the preface, the user's guide is a work in progress.  I believe 
chapters 8 & 9 are coming and they are soliciting feedback on what is 
currently there.


At 10:12 PM 2/16/2006, you wrote:
Is the new pdf for the documentation in 2.7 missing chapters 8 & 9? I 
can't find them in mine. If someone else has the same experience with 
theirs, let me know and I'll Bugzilla it.

Paul Looney
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Re: Index for Revolution PDF Document

[David Burgun]

Hi,

I am not sure if I am allowed to send it out, I don't want to  
infringe any copyright issues. Does anyone know if this is allowed or  
not?


Thanks
Dave

On 17 Feb 2006, at 16:59, Mikey wrote:


Dave,
Please send me a copy of the document with the index...

Mike.




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Re: Index for Revolution PDF Document

[Mikey]

Dave,
Please send me a copy of the document with the index...

Mike.




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Re: File sharing, locking, etc... between multiple users...

[Jonathan Lynch]

Hello again,

That is useful stuff to consider. At some point, I am going to create an app
called Manager Mage, or some such thing, - that will be used for
coordinating the efforts of each individual.

Task Mage approaches this from a very different perspective.

It is from the point of view of the stream of consciousness of the person
sitting at his desk, working on multiple projects.

Date oriented to-do list programs just suck, because not all tasks can be
assigned to a date or time. Most tasks, in my experience, are on-going.

So, task mage uses task files that do not have a particular date or time
attached to them. Each task file has its own sub-to-do list, and any item in
a sub-to-do list can be assigned to the calendar as needed, but it doesn't
have to be.

So, from the users perspective, when he is on the front page of task mage,
he has a to do list on the right side of the screen that automatically
organizes his tasks into whatever categories and sub-categories he sets up
for himself.

The left side of the screen contains a table that is used as a schedule for
the current day, that he can use his today schedule or not as he wishes. All
he has to do is drag items from his to-do list to his schedule.

Each item in his to-do list contains a link to that task file.

So, when he is working on a task, he can just click the link for that task,
go to the task, make whatever changes to his notes, status, sub-to-do list,
etc... that he needs to make, then go back to the front page to see what he
needs to work on next.

He can also add new tasks very quickly.

The idea is to be able to switch between tasks, make changes, and go back to
what you were doing so quickly that the yours short-term memory has not
dropped the details of what your were working on at that moment.

This allows for efficient multi-tasking.

In general, multitasking is very ineffecient, as has been shown by multiple
studies, because it takes considerable mental effort and time to orient on a
task, then re-orient on what you working on before you switched.

Task Mage eliminates that problem.

And I know it works, because I use it all day long at work, and it makes me
way more efficient, and with using it I almost never forget about tasks.


Manager coordination is a whole other perspective - one that will require a
different app that integrates with Task Mage.

Gonna take me forever to finish this project.

Cheers,

Jonathan


On 2/17/06, Jim Ault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the note.  Very glad that my ramblings might have triggered
> something valuable for you.
>
> Something more.  Those not interested.. . stop reading now.  You won't
> miss
> a thing  :-)
>
> As you may have realized by now, I tried to use some of the HCard ways of
> handling stacks to think about work flow organization where each part of
> the
> process becomes an object that only deals with its children and next level
> parent(s).
>
> Children know how to locate their parent(s) at any moment, therefore when
> the parent changes, the child can reference that change and respond
> accordingly.
>
> In the work flow sense, a child is actually the individual worker
> executing
> a step in the work flow, so there can be two workers each using their own
> child to update to the same parent or group of parents.  These parents can
> be at the same level, each having a different function.
>
> An example would be a staff meeting event.  Work flow would include
> scheduling, updating, building the agenda, sending notices to attendees
> and
> other parties, inviting comments, publishing the list of attendees,
> post-meeting minutes, notification of interested parties, archiving for
> future reference, scheduling follow-up.
>
> All of these parts could be a parent and the child would be the particular
> staff meeting on Thur at 9 am [metaphor would be a card in a 'scheduled
> event stack].  It would know that it needed to report to the parent that
> handled any scheduling, the one that handled invitations, the one that
> handled archiving of company information, etc.
>
> In this scheme,
> ...the child would ask each parent "Are there any updates to me (running
> on
> Rebecca's computer [metaphor would be a card on her computer that would
> show
> the data from the card in the 'scheduled event stack')?"
>
> ...the child would say "Here is the revised list of attendees for your
> consideration, from me (running on Mark's computer), which submits the new
> data to the parent for updating and availability to any object that
> requests/requires it.  Basically , you have a lot of 'landing zones' for
> data that is handled by one-or-more parents.
>
> Here the child does not know or care what the parent does with the new
> data.
> Time and date stamping is essential.
> I would encourage designing, building, and embedding an audit trail now to
> help with the debugging and design.  It is an invaluable tool.
>
> Hypercard of course.
>
> Hope you head stops swimming over the wee

Index for Revolution PDF Document

[David Burgun]

Hi,

Since I have the full version of Acrobat, I can create indexes and  
have created one for the RunRev PDF. I am not sure if I am allowed to  
distribute this, but if I am, I would be happy to send it anyone that  
wants it!


It makes searching a real breeze!

All the Best
Dave

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Re: Missing Chapter 8 & 9

[simplsol]

Seems Kevin & Company are already aware of this, so I will not add it 
to Bugzilla.

PL

-Original Message-
From: Kay C Lan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: How to use Revolution 
Sent: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 23:44:18 +0800
Subject: Re: Missing Chapter 8 & 9

   And I imagine Bugzilla is not the 'current' answer for Doc problems. 
Please

note on the first page of the docs:

Please send all comments and feedback to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
All comments will be read and you will receive a reply.
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Re: "Missing" Chapter 8 & 9

[simplsol]

Kevin,
Thanks for the guidance.
PL

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: How to use Revolution 
Sent: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 15:27:31 +
Subject: Re: "Missing" Chapter 8 & 9

  On 17/2/06 04:12, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Is the new pdf for the documentation in 2.7 missing chapters 8 & 9? I
can't find them in mine. If someone else has the same experience with
theirs, let me know and I'll Bugzilla it.


For more information about this, please read the preface to the User's 
Guide

- on page 1.

Kind regards,

Kevin

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Re: [HUMOUR?] Re: Custom image library 2.6 -> 2.7

[Jim Ault]

and I am on Mac, Virtual PC, and Windows.


On 2/17/06 7:46 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> actually i should have said  In My OHO since iM on windoze... ;)
> 
> 
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 17/02/2006 16:42:13:
> 
>> Don't you mean iMOHO?
>> 
>> 
>> On 2/17/06 2:47 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 


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Re: File sharing, locking, etc... between multiple users...

[Jim Ault]

Thanks for the note.  Very glad that my ramblings might have triggered
something valuable for you.

Something more.  Those not interested.. . stop reading now.  You won't miss
a thing  :-)

As you may have realized by now, I tried to use some of the HCard ways of
handling stacks to think about work flow organization where each part of the
process becomes an object that only deals with its children and next level
parent(s).

Children know how to locate their parent(s) at any moment, therefore when
the parent changes, the child can reference that change and respond
accordingly.

In the work flow sense, a child is actually the individual worker executing
a step in the work flow, so there can be two workers each using their own
child to update to the same parent or group of parents.  These parents can
be at the same level, each having a different function.

An example would be a staff meeting event.  Work flow would include
scheduling, updating, building the agenda, sending notices to attendees and
other parties, inviting comments, publishing the list of attendees,
post-meeting minutes, notification of interested parties, archiving for
future reference, scheduling follow-up.

All of these parts could be a parent and the child would be the particular
staff meeting on Thur at 9 am [metaphor would be a card in a 'scheduled
event stack].  It would know that it needed to report to the parent that
handled any scheduling, the one that handled invitations, the one that
handled archiving of company information, etc.

In this scheme, 
...the child would ask each parent "Are there any updates to me (running on
Rebecca's computer [metaphor would be a card on her computer that would show
the data from the card in the 'scheduled event stack')?"

 ...the child would say "Here is the revised list of attendees for your
consideration, from me (running on Mark's computer), which submits the new
data to the parent for updating and availability to any object that
requests/requires it.  Basically , you have a lot of 'landing zones' for
data that is handled by one-or-more parents.

Here the child does not know or care what the parent does with the new data.
Time and date stamping is essential.
I would encourage designing, building, and embedding an audit trail now to
help with the debugging and design.  It is an invaluable tool.

Hypercard of course.

Hope you head stops swimming over the weekend.

Jim Ault
Las Vegas

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> I just want to say, Jim, your ideas on this topic are greatly appreciated.
> 
> Please share all of the here, as many of us might use them, or adapt them to
> our needs.
> 
> Take care,
> 
> Jonathan
> 


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Re: Printing DLOG on Mac OS X

[Klaus Major]

Hi Yves,


Hi list

is there a way to get the printing DLOG on mac OS X appearing in  
sheet mode ?


I'm not sure, but iI think this is not possible since the dialogs do  
not "belong" to Rev.



Thank you.

Greetings.

Yves COPPE
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Regards

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Sqlite on Linux

[Jeff Honken]

I've compiled my application on Windows and I've moved it to Linux.  I
get the following error when I try to access the Sqlite database with my
application on Linux:

Failed to load dbsqlite.so error dbsqlite.so: cannot open shared object
file: No such file or directoryfound
/root/Linux/externals/database_drivers/dbsqlite.so
symbols 7134656,7134544,7134624
called idcounterptrx12.db
���ph'l�Fȥ�*

I've tried it on Fedora Core 4, RedHat 7.3 and 8.0.  All with the same
error.  I've set the permissions to 777 for the file and I've tripple
checked that the file is there and in that directory.  It's creating a
file called c:/test.db on my hard drive which I'm sure the .so is
creating.  I emailed Altuit yesterday but I havn't heard back from them.
Is anyone else using the Altuit .so on Linux that has seen this problem
before.  Any help would be appreciated.  Jeff




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Re: [HUMOUR?] Re: Custom image library 2.6 -> 2.7

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actually i should have said  In My OHO since iM on windoze... ;)



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 17/02/2006 16:42:13:

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> 
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> > 
> > narcissist IMOHO ;)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > just for the humor of it!!! ;)
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> > 
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Re: Missing Chapter 8 & 9

[Kay C Lan]

And I imagine Bugzilla is not the 'current' answer for Doc problems. Please
note on the first page of the docs:

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Re: [HUMOUR?] Re: Custom image library 2.6 -> 2.7

[Jim Ault]

Don't you mean iMOHO?


On 2/17/06 2:47 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> They dont use "my" - they use 'i'... Which is a bit egocentrical if not
> 
> narcissist IMOHO ;)
> 
> 
> 
> just for the humor of it!!! ;)
> 
> 
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 17/02/2005 10:59:55:
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Re: Pointlessness [was Revolution RUMORS!]

[Kevin Miller]

On 17/2/06 15:27, "Jonathan Lynch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Perhaps RunRev will reinstate him after a period. I, for one, appreciate
> some of his posts.

While I appreciate the debate on this subject, its not like we are looking
at a first time here.  We would not have moderated him if we had not
previously agreed with him he would be extra careful after last time.  That
said, of course we will look at restating him (again).  However another
issue relating to our software licensing has arisen, we must resolve it
first.

If you wish to continue to comment on this matter, please take it up with
Heather or myself directly, off-list.

Kind regards,

Kevin

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Re: File sharing, locking, etc... between multiple users...

[Jonathan Lynch]

I just want to say, Jim, your ideas on this topic are greatly appreciated.

Please share all of the here, as many of us might use them, or adapt them to
our needs.

Take care,

Jonathan


On 2/17/06, Jonathan Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The way I am setting it up, the user will always know who has locked out
> the task file - it tells you when you open it, in a field in the upper left
> of the task viewer card.
>
> I intend to include instant messaging, either as a substack of Task Mage
> or as a separate stack in Work Mage. That way, a user who wants access can
> instant message the person who has it locked and tell the to get out.
>
> Which is not perfect.
>
> Your idea about stacking data chatroom style is a good one, I will give it
> some thought. A given task file, in task mage, is way more complicated than
> a simple field, so it might not be practical - but it bears thinking about.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jonathan
>
>
>  On 2/16/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > WOW Jim,
> > These are some really good (extremely creative) ideas! Thank you for
> > sharing them.
> > Paul Looney
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jim Ault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: How to use Revolution 
> > Sent: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 08:59:36 -0800
> > Subject: Re: File sharing, locking, etc... between multiple users...
> >
> >As a design hint from my little corner of the world, you might think
> > of this
> > massive challenge along the lines of "event looping".  Every part of the
> >
> > solution actually operates on its own event loop and timing, sorta like
> > people attending a cocktail party.
> >
> > Everyone has there own agenda for enjoying the evening, their own
> > requirements, preferences and behaviors.  There are, however, limits and
> >
> > rules.
> >
> > Be careful of customer-driven design.  I have been there many times and
> > had
> > to defend the cogent database structure in spite of pressure to 'just
> > make
> > it work by Friday'.
> >
> > If you would like a few tips or design ideas, contact me off the list.
> > I
> > did an accounting system that worked on the principle of messaging,
> > queues,
> > conditions, and error checking.  One of the concepts that helped me was
> > 'semaphore' that signaled when tasks needed to be done and when and
> > where
> > they were located.  Kind of like "Is everybody here" when you don't
> > know who
> > "everybody" should be.
> >
> > Object-oriented-style seemed to make sense to me, and I did this in
> > Hypercard in the late 80's.  Of course, they were all Mac.
> >
> > Each day was its own object, worried only about its data and results,
> > then
> > knew when it was to be archived.  Each day was a stack that had its own
> > functions depending on the day of the week (Fri was different from Wed,
> > etc)
> > and time of the month (the last week was different than the first).
> >
> > This scheme allowed me to give each stack all the room it needed to deal
> > with its nature, including holidays, snow closures, etc.  Each day-stack
> >
> > would report in on a schedule + when queried.  Each card in the
> > day-stack
> > served a purpose.  Friday had more cards than a Tue (like employee hours
> > summary), unless a particular Tue was the end of the month.  You get the
> >
> > idea.  The "day stack creator" would make my day the way it needed to
> > be,
> > and then the day was self-sufficient, no matter which computer/hard
> > drive it
> > was on.  If it were on a back up drive, it would know that (Rinaldi
> > XCMD) by
> > asking the parent stack for the current drive list locations.
> >
> > Navigating from stack to stack for the manager and account was a snap,
> > since
> > that is something that HCard does very well.
> >
> > I also did their point of sale software in Hypercard,
> > object-oriented-style.
> > They sold Macintoshes mail order.  They were the first and very
> > successful,
> > until purchased, then died.  Had fun on the softball team :-)
> >
> > As usual, this may be of no help whatsoever with your circumstance.  In
> > that
> > event kindly disregard this morning wake-up tome.
> >
> > May Task Mage have good Luck Mage.
> >
> > Jim Ault
> > Las Vegas
> >
> >
> > On 2/16/06 6:53 AM, "Jonathan Lynch" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > The company my wife works for is starting to use Task Mage, because
> > they got
> > > fed up with MS Project
> > >
> > > This is great, because it gives me a customer driven process for
> > further
> > > development of Task Mage.
> > >
> > >
> > > One of the things they need is to be able to have shared use of
> > tasks, which
> > > are stored at a remote location and accessed via FTP. This is all very
> >
> > > doable, and I have made good progress in setting this up.
> > >
> > > But wow, sharing and locking files gets very complicated. The basic
> > model is
> > > simple, but the details, and cascading changes involved are just a
> > huge pain
> > > in the bahonkus.
> > >
> > > That's it, that's

Re: Pointlessness [was Revolution RUMORS!]

[Jonathan Lynch]

I think it is a point on Richmond's side that he has not created a new Email
list and attempted to rejoin the list.

I think we would recognized it if he had.

So, clearly, he is respecting RunRev's wish to keep his posts moderated.
This would indicate that it is not his intention to be disruptive. I realize
that intentions are not everything, but they do matter.


Perhaps RunRev will reinstate him after a period. I, for one, appreciate
some of his posts.
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Re: "Missing" Chapter 8 & 9

[Kevin Miller]

On 17/2/06 04:12, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Is the new pdf for the documentation in 2.7 missing chapters 8 & 9? I
> can't find them in mine. If someone else has the same experience with
> theirs, let me know and I'll Bugzilla it.

For more information about this, please read the preface to the User's Guide
- on page 1.

Kind regards,

Kevin

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Re: Revolution 2.7 documentation panic

[David Burgun]

One thing I've done is to create an Index using Acrobat, makes  
finding things in the document a breeze!


Not sure if I am allowed to send this to anyone and if I am if it  
would be of use?


All the Best
Dave

On 17 Feb 2006, at 13:36, Charles Hartman wrote:



On Feb 17, 2006, at 2:35 AM, Mark Wieder wrote:


 hard-coded path to Adobe
Reader



You're kidding!


It'll be fixed in some point-release down the line. But apparently  
I'm

the only person around here with Acrobat installed.


Maybe. But I try never to use Adobe Acrobat Reader on the Mac.  
Preview is noticeably faster, and I usually have it running in the  
dock, so the delay would be much less than if the other app has to  
open. I don't see why this would be hard-wired at all, since  
resolving filetypes is what an OS is for. . . . But this is OT by  
now (especially since I'm not on 2.7 at this point!). Sorry.


Charles

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Re: Getting Started with a Database

[Kay C Lan]

Thanks Trevor for the insight.
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Re: Missing Chapter 8 & 9

[David Burgun]

I guess you mean the Table of Contents? I can't find an Index.  
Chapter 11 is missing also!


All the Best
Dave

On 17 Feb 2006, at 15:03, Thomas McGrath III wrote:

8 is empty in the index and so should not be there, but 9 is in the  
index and is missing completely.


Verified here OSX 10.4.5  & REV 2.7

Tom

On Feb 17, 2006, at 9:46 AM, Scott Rossi wrote:


Is the new pdf for the documentation in 2.7 missing chapters 8 & 9?



Yes, the chapters are missing in my file too.


Wait a minute.  There's 18 minutes missing from the Nixon tapes as  
well!


Connection?

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Re: Missing Chapter 8 & 9

[Thomas McGrath III]

8 is empty in the index and so should not be there, but 9 is in the  
index and is missing completely.


Verified here OSX 10.4.5  & REV 2.7

Tom

On Feb 17, 2006, at 9:46 AM, Scott Rossi wrote:


Is the new pdf for the documentation in 2.7 missing chapters 8 & 9?



Yes, the chapters are missing in my file too.


Wait a minute.  There's 18 minutes missing from the Nixon tapes as  
well!


Connection?

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Re: [HUMOUR?] Re: Custom image library 2.6 -> 2.7

[Thomas McGrath III]

HHH

This made i really laugh.

Thanks xavier,

Tom


On Feb 17, 2006, at 5:47 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

They dont use "my" - they use 'i'... Which is a bit egocentrical if  
not

narcissist IMOHO ;)

just for the humor of it!!! ;)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 17/02/2005 10:59:55:


Apple does not use and never used such a suffix.
Fortunately :-)

Le 17 févr. 06 à 10:55, Mark Smith a écrit :


Couldn't agree more. I don't know where this awful 'my' suffix came
from (MSoft? Apple?), but it makes everything sound like My Little
Pony

Mark

On 17 Feb 2006, at 09:11, Martin Baxter wrote:


J. Landman Gay wrote:

If it does not already exist, create a folder in your Documents
folder called "My Revolution [edition]". That is, if you have the
Enterprise


I'm not at all sure I could bring myself to name a folder
beginning with the word "my". Every nerve twitches at the thought.
I already have a serious problem with "My Computer", "My
Documents" etc. To me this is like "My first coloring book :-)",
eeeuuuw. Surprise! I am not a 5 year old. Are folders whose names
do not begin with the word "my" in some way not really mine. Or is
this actually a dynamic scoping mechanism like in Perl?

Martin Baxter


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Re: Missing Chapter 8 & 9

[Scott Rossi]

>> Is the new pdf for the documentation in 2.7 missing chapters 8 & 9?

> Yes, the chapters are missing in my file too.

Wait a minute.  There's 18 minutes missing from the Nixon tapes as well!

Connection?

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Re: Revolution 2.7 documentation panic

[Thomas McGrath III]

My document opened fine in "Preview" on OSX and did not even try to  
open Acrobat. ???


... Just double checked and it goes right to Preview and not Acrobat  
at all.



Tom


On Feb 17, 2006, at 2:35 AM, Mark Wieder wrote:


Charles-

Thursday, February 16, 2006, 3:59:50 PM, you wrote:


 hard-coded path to Adobe
Reader



You're kidding!


It'll be fixed in some point-release down the line. But apparently I'm
the only person around here with Acrobat installed.

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Re: Missing Chapter 8 & 9

[David Burgun]

Hi,

Yes, the chapters are missing in my file too.

Cheers
Dave

On 17 Feb 2006, at 04:12, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Is the new pdf for the documentation in 2.7 missing chapters 8 & 9?  
I can't find them in mine. If someone else has the same experience  
with theirs, let me know and I'll Bugzilla it.

Paul Looney
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Re: Custom image library 2.6 -> 2.7

[Robert Brenstein]

J. Landman Gay wrote:
If it does not already exist, create a folder in your Documents 
folder called "My Revolution [edition]". That is, if you have the 
Enterprise version, your folder would be called "My Revolution 
Enterprise". Inside that folder is where all the extras go, in 
these subfolders:


  Plug ins now load from "Plugins" folder
  Database drivers now load from "Database Drivers" folder
  Externals now load from "Externals" folder
  External & database drivers loaded here are picked up by Standalone Builder
  Object Libraries are stored in Resources/Object Libraries
  Image Libraries are stored in Resources/Image Libraries

For your image libraries, make a subfolder inside the "My 
Revolution " folder called "Resources". Inside that, a 
folder called "Image Libraries". Inside that, your libraries.


Note that so far these folders aren't created by default, you have 
to make them.


Why is that?  Why not, for example, put plugins in a single folder 
where we expect users to change its contents?


--
 Richard Gaskin
 Fourth World Media Corporation



And how will things be handled if a different version of the same 
plugin or driver is needed for a different version of Revolution?


Robert
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Small bug in video capture sample stack

[Thomas McCarthy]

I just tried the video capture sample stack. It worked but there was a small 
bug. The revVideo displayed relative to my screen's top left corner. So if I 
moved the stack anywhere but that corner, the image displayed incorrectly.


The problem was in in the image "video"
Before:
 --put globalLoc(the topLeft of me),globalLoc(the bottomRight of me) into tRect

After:
  put the topLeft of me,the bottomRight of me into tRect
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Re: Revolution 2.7 documentation panic

[Charles Hartman]

On Feb 17, 2006, at 2:35 AM, Mark Wieder wrote:


 hard-coded path to Adobe
Reader



You're kidding!


It'll be fixed in some point-release down the line. But apparently I'm
the only person around here with Acrobat installed.


Maybe. But I try never to use Adobe Acrobat Reader on the Mac.  
Preview is noticeably faster, and I usually have it running in the  
dock, so the delay would be much less than if the other app has to  
open. I don't see why this would be hard-wired at all, since  
resolving filetypes is what an OS is for. . . . But this is OT by now  
(especially since I'm not on 2.7 at this point!). Sorry.


Charles

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Re: Pointlessness [was Revolution RUMORS!]

[David Burgun]

On 15 Feb 2006, at 22:35, David Vaughan wrote:


On 16/02/2006, at 5:00, David Burgun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Yes, in order to stop other people getting into the same position.
Once the cat was out of the bag there was no need for anyone to go to
the site again. It could be argued that he should be praised for his
selfless actions and RunRev chastised for their unsafe site!


David, I have full regard for the value of your posts on other  
topics but what you have above is about the most specious argument  
for anything that I have ever seen on this site.


It was supposed to be specious - well more tongue in cheek really. It  
was supposed to be on par with the posts condemning Richmond for his  
actions, which I found specious but rather than be rude or make  
personal attacks thought it better form to show the other side of the  
coin in a similar manner.


Your later paragraphs, about the list to which the material might  
have been posted and possible consequences thereof, are pure  
sophistry.


You've lost me there! I was trying to find out what the actual crime  
was! As far as I can see it can only be one of the following:


1.  Posting to the RunRev List.
2.  Posting to *any* list or Newsgroup.

My point was the given that the information was posted in the first  
place, then out of the two options above, option 1 was the safest/ 
best for RunRev and for RunRev developers. I could actually  
understand RunRev's position more if option 2 had been taken.


Runtime owns this particular list and may include or exclude any  
person on their own cognizance and in their own commercial interests.


I fully agree that they have the right to include or exclude anyone.  
It just depends on what is trying to be achieved as to how effective  
an exclusion would be. It is next to impossible to police a mailing.


One reason for excluding someone would be to try to stop the excluded  
person from posting in a manner similar to the post they were  
excluded for in the first place. This is impossible to achieve unless  
EVERY message from EVERY subscriber is moderated - a very time  
consuming and therefore expensive business.


Another reason would be to punish the person and stop them getting  
help from the list. This seems pointless in this case (except that it  
might make the person doing the excluding feel better for a little  
while and cause the person being excluded some slight hassle), since  
stopping someone getting help is likely to hurt the RunRev too. In  
any case, even if every message is moderated it would be ineffective  
as a punishment , since, they can just sign up (or have already  
signed up) under a different name and email address.


Over many years, I have found them to walk a pretty good line, with  
tolerance, humour and only the occasional fit of pique :-).


I agree it's one of the better lists I have participated in. I guess  
I just believe in free speech and fairness and since I was a bit  
peeved at being treated poorly by RunRev, thought that the act of  
putting Richmond in the "naughty-corner" a bit over the top. On  
reflection, the people at RunRev were probably frazzled by the  
problems they had in getting the site up and running and took it out  
on the first person that seemed to compound their problems.


Should we infer from your last line that you like to have the last  
word? I promise not to write on the topic again, so here you go:

Would have been ended!


I suppose I am like most people. Sometimes I like to have the last  
word and sometimes I don't mind if someone else has it! In this case  
it just depends on what I am doing when the message arrives. At the  
moment I am running a time consuming stack that is (hopefully!)  
creating a 200,000+ record database for me and so have some time to  
spare. Looking at the my record counter, I'm up to 199,000 already,  
(time flies furiously!) and so back to work!


Have a Great Weekend
All the Best
Dave


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Printing DLOG on Mac OS X

[Yves COPPE]

Hi list

is there a way to get the printing DLOG on mac OS X appearing in  
sheet mode ?


Thank you.

Greetings.

Yves COPPE
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Re: How to get print dialogs when printing stacks

[simplsol]

Worked perfectly!
Thank you, Sarah!
PL

-Original Message-
From: Sarah Reichelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: How to use Revolution 
Sent: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 15:39:24 +1000
Subject: Re: How to get print dialogs when printing stacks

  On 2/17/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

This only works if followed by revPrintField or revPrintText:

revShowPrintDialog true,true

Is there a way to get these two dialog boxes when printing a stack?
Paul Looney



Try something like this:

answer printer  -- gives you the first dialog
open printing with dialog  -- gives the second dialog
print cards  -- queues the cards for printing
close printing  -- actually prints

Cheers,
Sarah
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Re: Disabled files in 2.7

[simplsol]

Mark,
As much as "misery loves company", I'm sorry you share this problem.
Did you have it in prior versions as well?
I my case it started when the stack was open as Rev hung (while trying 
to open the Table panel in the Inspector.

Paul Looney

-Original Message-
From: Mark Wieder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: How to use Revolution 
Sent: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 23:27:42 -0800
Subject: Re: Disabled files in 2.7

  simplsol-

Thursday, February 16, 2006, 6:32:50 PM, you wrote:


 Stack no longer exists in this location


...I absolutely hate this error message. I have one stack I'm working
on that brings this up every *other* time I launch the stack. I have
to open it from the "Open Stack" menu instead of "Open Recent File".
And I have no idea why.

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Re: File sharing, locking, etc... between multiple users...

[Jonathan Lynch]

The way I am setting it up, the user will always know who has locked out the
task file - it tells you when you open it, in a field in the upper left of
the task viewer card.

I intend to include instant messaging, either as a substack of Task Mage or
as a separate stack in Work Mage. That way, a user who wants access can
instant message the person who has it locked and tell the to get out.

Which is not perfect.

Your idea about stacking data chatroom style is a good one, I will give it
some thought. A given task file, in task mage, is way more complicated than
a simple field, so it might not be practical - but it bears thinking about.

Thanks,

Jonathan


On 2/16/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> WOW Jim,
> These are some really good (extremely creative) ideas! Thank you for
> sharing them.
> Paul Looney
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Ault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: How to use Revolution 
> Sent: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 08:59:36 -0800
> Subject: Re: File sharing, locking, etc... between multiple users...
>
>As a design hint from my little corner of the world, you might think
> of this
> massive challenge along the lines of "event looping".  Every part of the
> solution actually operates on its own event loop and timing, sorta like
> people attending a cocktail party.
>
> Everyone has there own agenda for enjoying the evening, their own
> requirements, preferences and behaviors.  There are, however, limits and
> rules.
>
> Be careful of customer-driven design.  I have been there many times and
> had
> to defend the cogent database structure in spite of pressure to 'just
> make
> it work by Friday'.
>
> If you would like a few tips or design ideas, contact me off the list.
> I
> did an accounting system that worked on the principle of messaging,
> queues,
> conditions, and error checking.  One of the concepts that helped me was
> 'semaphore' that signaled when tasks needed to be done and when and
> where
> they were located.  Kind of like "Is everybody here" when you don't
> know who
> "everybody" should be.
>
> Object-oriented-style seemed to make sense to me, and I did this in
> Hypercard in the late 80's.  Of course, they were all Mac.
>
> Each day was its own object, worried only about its data and results,
> then
> knew when it was to be archived.  Each day was a stack that had its own
> functions depending on the day of the week (Fri was different from Wed,
> etc)
> and time of the month (the last week was different than the first).
>
> This scheme allowed me to give each stack all the room it needed to deal
> with its nature, including holidays, snow closures, etc.  Each day-stack
> would report in on a schedule + when queried.  Each card in the
> day-stack
> served a purpose.  Friday had more cards than a Tue (like employee hours
> summary), unless a particular Tue was the end of the month.  You get the
> idea.  The "day stack creator" would make my day the way it needed to
> be,
> and then the day was self-sufficient, no matter which computer/hard
> drive it
> was on.  If it were on a back up drive, it would know that (Rinaldi
> XCMD) by
> asking the parent stack for the current drive list locations.
>
> Navigating from stack to stack for the manager and account was a snap,
> since
> that is something that HCard does very well.
>
> I also did their point of sale software in Hypercard,
> object-oriented-style.
> They sold Macintoshes mail order.  They were the first and very
> successful,
> until purchased, then died.  Had fun on the softball team :-)
>
> As usual, this may be of no help whatsoever with your circumstance.  In
> that
> event kindly disregard this morning wake-up tome.
>
> May Task Mage have good Luck Mage.
>
> Jim Ault
> Las Vegas
>
>
> On 2/16/06 6:53 AM, "Jonathan Lynch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > The company my wife works for is starting to use Task Mage, because
> they got
> > fed up with MS Project
> >
> > This is great, because it gives me a customer driven process for
> further
> > development of Task Mage.
> >
> >
> > One of the things they need is to be able to have shared use of
> tasks, which
> > are stored at a remote location and accessed via FTP. This is all very
> > doable, and I have made good progress in setting this up.
> >
> > But wow, sharing and locking files gets very complicated. The basic
> model is
> > simple, but the details, and cascading changes involved are just a
> huge pain
> > in the bahonkus.
> >
> > That's it, that's all I wanted to say... Just venting as parts of my
> brain
> > ooze out of my ears.
> >
> > Jonathan
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Re: send "mouseUp" & real click

[sims]

At 11:59 AM + 2/17/06, Dave Cragg wrote:
It's different in the sense that a click will generate both 
mouseDown and mouseUp events. So if your mouseUp depended on 
anything that be set by mouseDown, Klaus's idea is probably better.


No go.



Also, manual clicking will ensure that the stack with the button is 
the defaultstack and possibly the topstack. Depending on what action 
your mouseUp handler takes, could that be a factor?


I added a btn to another stack in the app - made that topstack - 
clicked and it would work,

but still cannot get send in time.

Send in time would automate the 'coming out of sleep mode' and set up 
the app to
collect data. I'd rather not need to depend on an Earthling to do 
something   ;-)


ciao,
sims

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Re: send "mouseUp" & real click

[Dave Cragg]

On 17 Feb 2006, at 11:48, sims wrote:


At 12:46 PM +0100 2/17/06, Klaus Major wrote:


I have an OS X app which uses an external, it collects data and  
all runs fine.
If that computer is set to 'sleep', upon wakeup the external is  
not collecting that data.
If I then physically use the mouse to click a btn to stop &  
restart that external it works fine (external collects data  
properly)
If I use a  send "mouseUp" to that btn it does not work the same  
as when I physically click with the mouse

(the external does not collect data)
I have tried all sorts of 'send in X seconds' and still no  
happiness.
Is it possible that sending a 'mouseUp' to a btn is different  
than an actual mouse click?

Any suggestions?


you could try

click at the loc of btn "the one that wants to be touched physically"

Maybe that will work...(?)


Tried that, doesn't work.  Flowers & chocolates have no effect  
either  ;-)




Sounds like you're clicking the wrong buttons.

Dave
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Re: send "mouseUp" & real click

[Klaus Major]

Hi sims,


At 12:46 PM +0100 2/17/06, Klaus Major wrote:


I have an OS X app which uses an external, it collects data and  
all runs fine.
If that computer is set to 'sleep', upon wakeup the external is  
not collecting that data.
If I then physically use the mouse to click a btn to stop &  
restart that external it works fine (external collects data  
properly)
If I use a  send "mouseUp" to that btn it does not work the same  
as when I physically click with the mouse

(the external does not collect data)
I have tried all sorts of 'send in X seconds' and still no  
happiness.
Is it possible that sending a 'mouseUp' to a btn is different  
than an actual mouse click?

Any suggestions?


you could try
click at the loc of btn "the one that wants to be touched physically"
Maybe that will work...(?)
Tried that, doesn't work.  Flowers & chocolates have no effect  
either  ;-)


LOL :-D

Did you try money or the good ol' "I will make you a big star" approach?


ciao,
sims

European Rev Conference  2006
www.techietours.com


Best

Klaus Major
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.major-k.de

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Re: send "mouseUp" & real click

[Dave Cragg]

On 17 Feb 2006, at 11:36, sims wrote:

I have an OS X app which uses an external, it collects data and all  
runs fine.


If that computer is set to 'sleep', upon wakeup the external is not  
collecting that data.


If I then physically use the mouse to click a btn to stop & restart  
that external it works fine (external collects data properly)


If I use a  send "mouseUp" to that btn it does not work the same as  
when I physically click with the mouse

(the external does not collect data)

I have tried all sorts of 'send in X seconds' and still no happiness.

Is it possible that sending a 'mouseUp' to a btn is different than  
an actual mouse click?


It's different in the sense that a click will generate both mouseDown  
and mouseUp events. So if your mouseUp depended on anything that be  
set by mouseDown, Klaus's idea is probably better.


Also, manual clicking will ensure that the stack with the button is  
the defaultstack and possibly the topstack. Depending on what action  
your mouseUp handler takes, could that be a factor?


Cheers
Dave
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Re: send "mouseUp" & real click

[sims]

At 12:46 PM +0100 2/17/06, Klaus Major wrote:


I have an OS X app which uses an external, it collects data and all 
runs fine.
If that computer is set to 'sleep', upon wakeup the external is not 
collecting that data.
If I then physically use the mouse to click a btn to stop & restart 
that external it works fine (external collects data properly)
If I use a  send "mouseUp" to that btn it does not work the same as 
when I physically click with the mouse

(the external does not collect data)
I have tried all sorts of 'send in X seconds' and still no happiness.
Is it possible that sending a 'mouseUp' to a btn is different than 
an actual mouse click?

Any suggestions?


you could try

click at the loc of btn "the one that wants to be touched physically"

Maybe that will work...(?)


Tried that, doesn't work.  Flowers & chocolates have no effect either  ;-)

ciao,
sims

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www.techietours.com
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Re: send "mouseUp" & real click

[Klaus Major]

Hi sims,

I have an OS X app which uses an external, it collects data and all  
runs fine.
If that computer is set to 'sleep', upon wakeup the external is not  
collecting that data.
If I then physically use the mouse to click a btn to stop & restart  
that external it works fine (external collects data properly)
If I use a  send "mouseUp" to that btn it does not work the same as  
when I physically click with the mouse

(the external does not collect data)
I have tried all sorts of 'send in X seconds' and still no happiness.
Is it possible that sending a 'mouseUp' to a btn is different than  
an actual mouse click?

Any suggestions?


you could try

click at the loc of btn "the one that wants to be touched physically"

Maybe that will work...(?)


ciao,
sims

European Rev Conference  2006
www.techietours.com


Regards

Klaus Major
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.major-k.de

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send "mouseUp" & real click

[sims]

I have an OS X app which uses an external, it collects data and all runs fine.

If that computer is set to 'sleep', upon wakeup the external is not 
collecting that data.


If I then physically use the mouse to click a btn to stop & restart 
that external it works fine (external collects data properly)


If I use a  send "mouseUp" to that btn it does not work the same as 
when I physically click with the mouse

(the external does not collect data)

I have tried all sorts of 'send in X seconds' and still no happiness.

Is it possible that sending a 'mouseUp' to a btn is different than an 
actual mouse click?


Any suggestions?

ciao,
sims

European Rev Conference  2006
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Re: [HUMOUR?] Re: Custom image library 2.6 -> 2.7

[Klaus Major]

Hi Xavier,

They dont use "my" - they use 'i'... Which is a bit egocentrical if  
not

narcissist IMOHO ;)


BUT they use "i" (small caps) and correct english is "I" (= ich, je,  
io, ik etc...)
in capital letter, so this may relativise the narcissist tendency a  
bit :-D



just for the humor of it!!! ;)


Regards

Klaus Major
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.major-k.de

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