Re: Revolution 2.7.4 Released
On Sep 23, 2006, at 5:16 PM, Luis wrote: It's like the printers you buy nowadays: They don't include the cable!!! When Stromberg-Carlson tried to get into the computer biz in the 50s, they so shorted customers that eventually many customers decided to just buy just the display or more often just the CRT tubes and build the computers themselves. I tried to look for info on SC and computers of the 50s online and found nothing. I found radios, CRT displays, phones, telco switches, film recorders, but not computers. It looks like nobody even admits to having ordered one. In this particular case, I agree with Dan. RunRev provides a good tool. Dar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: mySQL problem... HELPPPPPP
On 9/23/06 8:18 PM, Ton Kuypers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Ton, The strange thing is, that when I update the jobs, the old ones are still there, even when the UserID is not correct anymore. Using the same query in CocoaMySQL gives the correct result. When I click on a Job, I can see the correct (new) userID is in the record, but the query still retrieves it. I even removed all extra stuff and just sent the query (giving the correct result in CocoaMySQL) using the revDataFromQuery command, but I keep on getting the same (incorrect) result :-( Anyone any suggestions? I'm running RR version 2.7.2 on OS X, using a mySQL 4.1 database with the MyISAM engine Sounds strange. * You sure that you have SINGLE database which you query from app and CocoaMySQL? * I could think that in APP you not finish transaction, but you use MyISAM. So not a case. * how exactly looks your INCORRECT result? -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: TemplateGroup Investigation
Recently, Cal Horner wrote: Does anyone out there actually use the templateGroup feature? I do -- I use it to establish several properties of a group before creating a group, such as location, margins, and name. Perhaps you have used it and found it to be too difficult or time consuming? Too difficult or time consuming compared to what? For me, it's no more difficult to use than any other object's template properties. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Printing more than one page
Dan, This is the (same) link I was given that is confusing... http://www.shafermediastore.com/tech_main.html It displays a price of $29.95 (not specifically stating whether its and EBook or Printed). Below that Order a Printed Copy but that's the same price $29.95. If that is the correct price for the SmartEBook that's fine too. But I understood it was $5. Investigating further, there is indeed a link at the top of the first paragraph to theSmartEBook where I would expect to find a specific EBook price, but again the price is shown at $29.95 or you can order a printed copy at - $29.95. http://www.shafermediastore.com/tech/tech1_speedthought.html Clicking the SmartEBook link there's more blurb here... http://www.shafermediastore.com/SmartEWhat.html Specifics about what EBook means - but no opportunity to buy. Would appreciate some clarity. Thanks, Adrian On 23 Sep 2006, at 20:14, Dan Shafer wrote: I'll have to go look at the pages again, but I could swear there were links there to the store. Anyway, you can get to all of the downloadable Rev SmartEBooks here: http://www.shafermediastore.com/tech_main.html ___ Adrian Williams Design Ltd (trading as Club Type), 44 Mill Lane, Merstham, Redhill, Surrey RH1 3HQ, UK Telephone/Facsimile: 01737 643300 dFax (computer reception): 0870 0515681 International tel/fax (UK)+44 1737 643300 International dFax: (UK)+44 870 0515681 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.clubtype.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How do I make a background field?
Thanks for the links, Devin! Judy On Fri, 22 Sep 2006, Devin Asay wrote: I put together some notes about Rev groups for the students in my beginning Rev programming class. You can read them at: http://revolution.byu.edu/groups/Groups.html See also the discussion on Object Hierarchy and the Message Path in: http://revolution.byu.edu/scripts/ScriptsCont.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution 2.7.4 Released
Huh??? When did 'one year of free updates/maintenance releases/etc.' get dropped?? Thanking the stars my economic livelihood doesn't rely upon them... Judy On Fri, 22 Sep 2006, Bill Marriott wrote: Alright. Am I correct that the price of update packs has increased now? Early update $188/yr (was $150) Standard update $253/yr (was $199) Lynn Fredricks wrote Rev without an update pack previously came with 30 days of updates. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution 2.7.4 Released
I'm coming in on this late, so perhaps this has already been answered, and if so, apologies, but... is there a difference between upgrades (which I would understand as being from Studio - Enterprise or whatever's next on the developmental food chain) and new releases (e.g., from 2.7.1 - 2.7.2)?? Judy On Fri, 22 Sep 2006, Kevin Miller wrote: On 22/9/06 23:52, Bill Marriott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alright. Am I correct that the price of update packs has increased now? No, we have not changed any pricing at all (beyond giving away 3 months of free upgrades with a new license purchase instead of 1 month). Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution - User-Centric Development Tools ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
re: Who's Kevin?
Thanks Klausss (sorry Klaus, I just couldn't resist it!) for the input. I was surprised to see it was the CEO! I was almost sure it would be a kid who had been fired and threw a spanner in the works before leaving the office. Anyway I saw Mr. Miller had a post on another Theme, just after ours on the same date, maybe he's still trying to work out what happened himself. Havn't been able to repeat the incident and as Runtime are gracefully giving me the new update free (Just in time - I bought my Media 2.7.2. in August about three days before 2.7.3 was released),I can probably forget about it. Oh! I should have said it was the 'CANC' KEY not a button. Bye everybody Barry - Barry Barber wrote: While using my Media IDE I deleted a text field with the 'Canc' button on Windows XP but also got a message box which contained [EMAIL PROTECTED]!! No close button or OK etc..It just stayed there unremovable, it froze the Rev tool bar completely and would not let Rev shut down in any way.I had to log out and reboot to get things back to normal. Who is Kevin and why should I want to email him anyway?(no suggestions to last bit, please!) -- Klaus Major wrote: Hi Barry, well, I really don't know what is going on there, but that surely is Mr. Kevin Miller, CEO of Runtime Revolution Ltd. Just drop him a line, maybe he can shed some light on this ;-) Best Klaus Major ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Who's Kevin?
Hi Barry, Thanks Klausss (sorry Klaus, I just couldn't resist it!) no problem Alva... ehm Barry ;-) for the input. I was surprised to see it was the CEO! I was almost sure it would be a kid who had been fired and threw a spanner in the works before leaving the office. LOL :-D Anyway I saw Mr. Miller had a post on another Theme, just after ours on the same date, maybe he's still trying to work out what happened himself. Havn't been able to repeat the incident and as Runtime are gracefully giving me the new update free (Just in time - I bought my Media 2.7.2. in August about three days before 2.7.3 was released),I can probably forget about it. That's good to hear. Oh! I should have said it was the 'CANC' KEY not a button. Bye everybody Barry Regards from germany Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Thank You, Scott and Kevin (was Revolution 2.7.4 Released)
So maybe we should gather up our thoughts and state what we'd expect from a tool such as Revolution (I wonder how they're getting on at the improve Revolution mailing list...). Apologies if my thought seem a little disjointed, been up all night messing about with audio (ouch!). Cheers, Luis. I, for one, am grateful that Revolution even exists. I started with Hypercard, which died a long, lingering death. We waited, and waited, and waited for Apple to update it. There were rumors. So many rumors. And finally we all had to accept that Apple had genuinely abandoned it. And panic ensued. If it had not been for Metacard, I don't know what choices we would have had. I do not know C, or Pascal, or any of the traditional languages. I learned to program by trial and error in Hypercard. And the help of some awesome books, particularly Hypertalk 2.2 co-authored by our very own Jeanne DeVoto. I've never seen a better programming reference. Good job, Jeanne! So Hypercard was dead, and Metacard hadn't quite popped into the realm visibly yet. I went out and bought $500 worth of C books, assuming I would have to learn to program all over again. The language in C is so radically different, I might as well not know anything. Then Metacard appeared to save the day. And they literally did save the day. They were what Hypercard would be if it had been regularly updated and maintained. And I never cracked the spiffy new C books except to look up a few oddball things on methodology. Revolution existed as an IDE, if I remember correctly. You could buy Revolution, or you could buy Metacard. The engine was the same, the IDE was different. And Revolution had some agreement with Metacard to license the engine, or something like that. (Please pardon any errors.) Then the two merged, or Revolution bought out Metacard, or something to that effect. I'm not very clear on the combining of the two. Except to know that the engine is the same and the language is the same, and it looks like it's going to be around for a very long time. I am grateful to feel confident that my beloved programming tool is still in existance, and expecting to remain so for a long time to come. I have no doubt that it is a very frustrating thing to update and maintain a tool such as this. And Kevin probably hears a lot more griping than he does thank you's. The ending could have been much different, had Scott Raney not created Metacard, and had Kevin Miller not carried the torch further. So to Scott and Kevin, THANK YOU. Consider any future gripes minor to the THANK YOU for providing this tool. As for desired features, give me a few months and I'm sure I will find several :-D Shari -- Gypsy King Software Mac and Windows shareware games http://www.gypsyware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Thank You, Scott and Kevin (was Revolution 2.7.4 Released)
Shari, (SNIP) So Hypercard was dead, and Metacard hadn't quite popped into the realm visibly yet. (SNIP) you probably missed it, but in the second half of the 90's, Oracle Media Object helped bridge the gap between the death of HC and the maturity of MC. OMO was a very good product too, not expensive, and rock solid. AFAIR it only went for Mac and Win platforms though. JB ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: about Galaxy
Sivakatirswami- Saturday, September 23, 2006, 1:58:07 AM, you wrote: 2) there is some latent memory of stacks that are not really being closed, even though I have destroy stack set to true and I keep getting into infinite loops where Rev keeps thinking a stack that is closed and removed from memory is still there. Asking me to purge. I click purge and same dialog keeps coming back. I have to force quit and start again. It happened enough times... I've seen this behavior as well, though not recently, so my guess is that something got changed/fixed in a recent version. I know the save operation got fixed up a bit lately, so maybe something along the way also cured the infinite loop... -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: about Galaxy
Sivakatirswami- Saturday, September 23, 2006, 6:58:45 PM, you wrote: I was just trying to encourage Run Rev to keep upping the ante on the IDE I'd have to respectfully disagree with this. For my two cents' worth, I'd rather have the team working on the engine: fixing bugs and adding new features, etc. The IDE is something that third parties can work on: making improvements and drop-in replacements for existing features ala Galaxy, or by adding plugins. But the engine is something that only the rev team can modify. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: about Galaxy
It's exactly me tought too, Mark and All ;-) Best, Pierre I'd have to respectfully disagree with this. For my two cents' worth, I'd rather have the team working on the engine: fixing bugs and adding new features, etc. The IDE is something that third parties can work on: making improvements and drop-in replacements for existing features ala Galaxy, or by adding plugins. But the engine is something that only the rev team can modify. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Pierre Sahores www.sahores-conseil.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution 2.7.4 Released
On 9/24/06 3:59 AM, Judy Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Huh??? When did 'one year of free updates/maintenance releases/etc.' get dropped?? According to the Internet Wayback machine, this happened sometime early in 2004. I know what you mean, though... I was involved with MetaCard/Revolution before that and so my mindset is still back there... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Digest Reply Link
On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 15:40:05 -0700 Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Re: Digest Reply Link Richard- Saturday, September 16, 2006, 1:18:46 PM, you wrote: Maybe we could turn the problem inside-out: It shouldn't be too hard to toss together a lil' Rev stack that displays the list archives and handles setting up reply emails. The archives are here: a href=lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/lists.runrev.com/ pipermail/use-revolution//a A little UI, a couple libURL calls, and it's done Actually I've been waiting for someone to do that for a while now. My ArchiveSearch plugin does allow you to do that, but it's a search engine rather than a message browser. I'm not sure the archives lend themselves to browsing readily in that manner, but I do think a rev solution would be nice. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's been done, in one form, at least. I have a stack called RevDigests Reader, created by someone on this list, a while back. I use it to reply to this list. I can't find any credits in the stack on a quick perusal, and I can't remember who authored it. Age-related dementia strikes again. It allows you to read messages individually and reply to the list with a button-click. Unless that was a feature that I tweaked separately (I have a habit of customizing things for my own use.) It should be available somewhere in the userspaces, IIRC. -- Peter Peter M. Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig/ +---+ Any universe simple enough to be understood is incapable of evolving a brain complex enough to understand it. +---+ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Thank You, Scott and Kevin (was Revolution 2.7.4 Released)
On Sep 24, 2006, at 9:51 AM, jbv wrote: Shari, (SNIP) So Hypercard was dead, and Metacard hadn't quite popped into the realm visibly yet. (SNIP) you probably missed it, but in the second half of the 90's, Oracle Media Object helped bridge the gap between the death of HC and the maturity of MC. OMO was a very good product too, not expensive, and rock solid. AFAIR it only went for Mac and Win platforms though. And in the early-mid 90's there was Spinnaker Plus, which became OMO and WinPlus. Spinnaker Plus' manual (which I have right here - believe it or not, I'm still supporting a program made with Spinnaker Plus!) was written by our very own Dan Shafer. We are indeed a community with a history! t -- Tereza Snyder Califex Software, Inc. www.califexsoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: about Galaxy
What, they're working on the engine?!... He he... ;) Cheers, Luis. On 24 Sep 2006, at 19:16, Pierre Sahores wrote: It's exactly me tought too, Mark and All ;-) Best, Pierre I'd have to respectfully disagree with this. For my two cents' worth, I'd rather have the team working on the engine: fixing bugs and adding new features, etc. The IDE is something that third parties can work on: making improvements and drop-in replacements for existing features ala Galaxy, or by adding plugins. But the engine is something that only the rev team can modify. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Pierre Sahores www.sahores-conseil.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: about Galaxy
I respectfully disagree with your respectful disagreement. Here's my 2 cents, for whatever it's worth. In order for Rev to succeed, it needs to have a decent out of the box user experience. Look what happened to MetaCard which never had one. Besides, asking that a script editor be at least as good as a previous version (2.7 is way slower and IMO 'unfriendlier' than the 2.6 version) shouldn't be such a problem. I'm pretty much staying off of 2.7 for that reason alone. Besides, while Jerry and Trevor are two of the best Rev programmers and do great work, the burden of running two IDE's (Galaxy and Rev's) does take a toll on performance. Now, if Rev could just 'get out of the way' and let Galaxy take over, it might make things different. But, like Sivakatirswami, I, too have seen some performance issues on earlier versions of Galaxy, enough to put me off using it. The other issue for me is that while Galaxy is cross platform, it is programmed mostly on Macs and I use PCs. Since I quit using it, I've created some of my own tools to do some of the heavy lifting for me. I've combined some features of Transcript Gadget with Inspector Gadget and added a script manager plugin. These aren't for public consumptions as they are still works in progress-- but I digress. Up to now, these tools work great for me. Just last week I tried them out on a Mac and lo and behold, lots and lots of problems. Which goes to show how difficult it is to program on one platform for another, especially tough IDE type stuff. It's certainly not impossible, but difficult. And, because Galaxy can't be completely removed without restarting Rev (unlike Constellation and Jerry's previous products), it is sometimes hard to figure out exactly where the problem lies...Galaxy or Rev. All I want to do is get work done, and it's enough for me to try and debug 1 IDE (Rev's) and not have to be concerned about another. Perhaps it's time for Galaxy to consider becoming like MetaCard, a complete seperate IDE for the Rev engine. Then Jerry and Trevor wouldn't have to worry about coding 'around' Rev's own IDE. They certainly would have more control over the interface-- and Galaxy's interface is a most beautiful thing, not to mention well-thought out and functional. -Chipp On 9/24/06, Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd have to respectfully disagree with this. For my two cents' worth, I'd rather have the team working on the engine: fixing bugs and adding new features, etc. The IDE is something that third parties can work on: making improvements and drop-in replacements for existing features ala Galaxy, or by adding plugins. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Printing more than one page
You need just to scroll down on that page farther. The eBook price did change. But the three SmartEBooks on specific topics are $5 each and are clearly listed on that page. On 9/24/06, Adrian Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan, This is the (same) link I was given that is confusing... http://www.shafermediastore.com/tech_main.html It displays a price of $29.95 (not specifically stating whether its and EBook or Printed). Below that Order a Printed Copy but that's the same price $29.95. If that is the correct price for the SmartEBook that's fine too. But I understood it was $5. Investigating further, there is indeed a link at the top of the first paragraph to theSmartEBook where I would expect to find a specific EBook price, but again the price is shown at $29.95 or you can order a printed copy at - $29.95. http://www.shafermediastore.com/tech/tech1_speedthought.html Clicking the SmartEBook link there's more blurb here... http://www.shafermediastore.com/SmartEWhat.html Specifics about what EBook means - but no opportunity to buy. Would appreciate some clarity. Thanks, Adrian On 23 Sep 2006, at 20:14, Dan Shafer wrote: I'll have to go look at the pages again, but I could swear there were links there to the store. Anyway, you can get to all of the downloadable Rev SmartEBooks here: http://www.shafermediastore.com/tech_main.html ___ Adrian Williams Design Ltd (trading as Club Type), 44 Mill Lane, Merstham, Redhill, Surrey RH1 3HQ, UK Telephone/Facsimile: 01737 643300 dFax (computer reception): 0870 0515681 International tel/fax (UK)+44 1737 643300 International dFax: (UK)+44 870 0515681 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.clubtype.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- ~~ Dan Shafer, Information Product Consultant and Author http://www.shafermedia.com Get my book, Revolution: Software at the Speed of Thought From http://www.shafermediastore.com/tech_main.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Thank You, Scott and Kevin (was Revolution 2.7.4 Released)
On Sep 24, 2006, at 9:51 AM, jbv wrote: Shari, (SNIP) So Hypercard was dead, and Metacard hadn't quite popped into the realm visibly yet. (SNIP) you probably missed it, but in the second half of the 90's, Oracle Media Object helped bridge the gap between the death of HC and the maturity of MC. On Sep 24, 2006, at 7:30 PM, Tereza Snyder wrote: We are indeed a community with a history! I'll throw in a little tidbit of scarcely known history... During this early foundation period of the language we have grown to love, even the Amiga computer had a development environment that used a hyperTalk/transcript like syntax. Actually it was exactly the same syntax, and also used the stacks of cards metaphore. Wonder where that idea came from... I wish I still had the installation diskettes (yep, floppies). This Amiga dev environment was called Foundation. Sadly, it never evolved pased version 1.0. Roger Eller [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: about Galaxy
On Sep 24, 2006, at 7:37 PM, Chip Walters wrote: Perhaps it's time for Galaxy to consider becoming like MetaCard, a complete seperate IDE for the Rev engine. Then Jerry and Trevor wouldn't have to worry about coding 'around' Rev's own IDE. They certainly would have more control over the interface-- and Galaxy's interface is a most beautiful thing, not to mention well-thought out and functional. -Chipp If Galaxy produced a commercial IDE replacement, wouldn't that be in violation of the prime directive? I mean, I remember way back, reading in the license agreement that you can create anything you wish with Revolution EXCEPT software that directly competes with RunTime and its IDE. I've felt like even the current incarnation of Galaxy is bordering on this thin line. Maybe the rules are different now. It seems that RunTime itself isn't concerned, but rather welcomes the 3rd party stuff. Would the same be true if it became a competitive product? Isn't the production of the MetaCard IDE a little different by being an opensource project? Roger Eller [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: about Galaxy
Roger.E.Eller wrote: On Sep 24, 2006, at 7:37 PM, Chip Walters wrote: Perhaps it's time for Galaxy to consider becoming like MetaCard, a complete seperate IDE for the Rev engine. If Galaxy produced a commercial IDE replacement, wouldn't that be in violation of the prime directive? I mean, I remember way back, reading in the license agreement that you can create anything you wish with Revolution EXCEPT software that directly competes with RunTime and its IDE. Actually it's the opposite: an IDE is just a collection of stacks, but all stacks need the engine to run, and need a licensed engine to edit scripts. So regardless of whether the Rev IDE is running, you still need a Rev license to edit scripts. That's the beauty of it: RunRev can watch a thousand flowers bloom (as Scott Raney used to say), and still all roads lead back to Rev. Any third-party IDE must rely on a Rev sale to be operational. A win-win-win for all -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: about Galaxy
On Sep 24, 2006, at 7:36 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: So regardless of whether the Rev IDE is running, you still need a Rev license to edit scripts. Over the scripting limit. Or is there something new? Dar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution 2.7.4 Released
Heather Nagey wrote: months at the bundle price. To introduce this new trial period, we are having an amnesty for purchasers of Revolution in the last 3 months, who didn't get the update pack at time of purchase. If you bought a new license after 22nd July 2006, you will be able to unlock version 2.7.4 even if you didn't buy an update pack. Just use the code you received on purchase. No, your license does not expire! When your update pack is over, you can either renew it, or simply continue to use the last version you were able to unlock with it. Your latest copy of Revolution will not stop working. That's good news. Now, about th Linux version being stuck at 2.6.3. Jerry Muelver ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Package for Windows -- Best Practice
I just had my first standalone for Windows which put a .dll (the rev xml lib) into an externals folders. So, this is the first time I'm distributing a windows standalone which requires additional components. It seems obvious, but correct me if I am wrong: 1) make a new folder New Rev App 2) move New Rev App.exe and externals (folder) into the new folder. 3) zip the whole thing. Windows users will download NewRevApp.zip; unpack it and get a folder on their desktop /New Rev App/ which contains the application and the externals folder. Is this all the correct way to do it? Sivakatirswami www.himalayanacademy.com Get Hinduism Today Digital Edition. It's Free! http://www.hinduismtoday.com/digital/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: mySQL problem... HELPPPPPP
On 9/23/06, Ton Kuypers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I even removed all extra stuff and just sent the query (giving the correct result in CocoaMySQL) using the revDataFromQuery command, but I keep on getting the same (incorrect) result :-( Do you get incorrect data when you run revDataFromQuery from the message box? Are you using the DB Query builder, harder to troubleshoot, or is this all hand generated? When I've experience something similar it is usually because I use global, local and temporary variables of similar names and occasionally use one out of context: gMyDbSqlQuery,lMyDbSqlQuery,tMyDbSqlQuery gMyDbData,lMyDbData,tMyDbData Those t's and 'ls can be hard to distinguish with a quick glance at the Variable Watcher, but obviously some contain newer data and others older. HTH ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Package for Windows -- Best Practice
Sivakatirswami, Yes, create a new folder, put the DLL and EXE there and then launch the EXE to make sure it runs. Then zip it. Once you have the folder you may want to try Monte Goulding's InstallGadget (built in Rev) to build an installer for it. http://www.sweattechnologies.com/InstallGadget/ best, Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution 2.7.4 Released
Carp! ..., er, CRAP!!! And I just demonstrated the use of the Wayback machine to resurrect a neat little Mayan culture site (formerly at www.halfmoon.org) for my 'Computer Impact on Society' course... never thought I'd need to actually have to USE it myself... grrr Feeling old... Judy On Sun, 24 Sep 2006, Ken Ray wrote: On 9/24/06 3:59 AM, Judy Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Huh??? When did 'one year of free updates/maintenance releases/etc.' get dropped?? According to the Internet Wayback machine, this happened sometime early in 2004. I know what you mean, though... I was involved with MetaCard/Revolution before that and so my mindset is still back there... Ken Ray ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
