Delayed Mouse Clicks
I have a button that, when clicked, runs a process that takes a few seconds. I'd like to do a little error prevention and prevent the user from accidentally clicking on it multiple times while it is already processing. Currently, if the button is clicked and then clicked multiple times before the first process is done, the mouseUp script will run over and over again after each script is completed. Any ideas? Secondly, does anyone know of a way to change the dock's icon (OS X) of your application while it is running? Cheers, Trevor Hopkins Exeter, UK _ The new Windows Live Toolbar helps you guard against viruses http://toolbar.live.com/?mkt=en-gb ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Delayed Mouse Clicks
Hi Trevor, The easiest solution to take care of multiple clicks is to set the cursor to watch while the script is running. If you are running a handler with messages, you might need to set a property. on mouseUp if the cRunning of me is false then set the cRunning of me to true repeat forever with messages -- do whatever you need in your repeat loop -- exit repeat when finished end repeat set the cRunning of to false else beep end if end mouseUp You can change the icon in the dock using the icon property: set the icon of this stack to 1234 (1234 would be the number of an image). Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 29-sep-2006, om 9:12 heeft Trevor Hopkins het volgende geschreven: I have a button that, when clicked, runs a process that takes a few seconds. I'd like to do a little error prevention and prevent the user from accidentally clicking on it multiple times while it is already processing. Currently, if the button is clicked and then clicked multiple times before the first process is done, the mouseUp script will run over and over again after each script is completed. Any ideas? Secondly, does anyone know of a way to change the dock's icon (OS X) of your application while it is running? Cheers, Trevor Hopkins Exeter, UK ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: how to validate fields
Hello, Èric Chatonet has recently add a new tutorial on his site "So Smart Softare" that might be of interest to you. You will find it at this address : http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/?r=revolution_index&l=en It is named : "How to master users data in entry boxes" I think it answers your question. hope that helps Best regards from Grenoble André Le 28 sept. 06 à 21:31, Alvaro Abril - Tecnologia a écrit : Dear Sirs: I need to validate fields.. for example.. only enter numbers in some fields.. i need for example fields with format for example Q1.000.50 How i can to put these automatic conditions in a field? Cordialmente, Alvaro Abril Tecnología Divertia S.A. www.fantasticguatemala.com Tel. 502 2410 4600 Fax.502 2410 4646 Guatemala ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution, MySQL vs FileMaker
True, but in that instance I'd push it all over an encrypted channel. Especially so if it's an externally hosted database. Cheers, Luis. Josh Mellicker wrote: On Sep 28, 2006, at 1:26 AM, Luis wrote: Hiya, You have to be careful with some providers, quite a few of them will not allow remote connections, only local access (such as using php on the server) to server the data. Cheers, Luis. If your site has cPanel, there is a section where you can add access hosts by IP, in a box that also says: Host (% wildcard is allowed): the % means any remote client can connect (if they know the username, password and domain) I examined security issues, but if someone can sniff this info they can also sniff the info you're passing to serverside middleware and so I don't see how this is any more insecure than other options. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: MySQL version
On 9/29/06, Cat Kutay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am running Revolution 2.6 and mySQL 5.1.They seem to be incompatable, it that correct? Rev's MySQL drivers use the old style passwords. If you can set your MySQL server to allow version 4 passwords, it will work fine. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Delayed Mouse Clicks
On 9/29/06, Trevor Hopkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have a button that, when clicked, runs a process that takes a few seconds. I'd like to do a little error prevention and prevent the user from accidentally clicking on it multiple times while it is already processing. Currently, if the button is clicked and then clicked multiple times before the first process is done, the mouseUp script will run over and over again after each script is completed. Any ideas? My preference is to disable the button at the start of the mouseUp handler and enable it again at the end. Secondly, does anyone know of a way to change the dock's icon (OS X) of your application while it is running? Yes, this is now possible although unsupported. If you set "the icon" to the ID of a suitable image i.e. 128 x 128 pixels or less, then the dock icon changes to match. Check the "What's New.txt" file in your Rev folder for more details. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Delayed Mouse Clicks
Hi Sarah and Trevor, On 9/29/06, Trevor Hopkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have a button that, when clicked, runs a process that takes a few seconds. I'd like to do a little error prevention and prevent the user from accidentally clicking on it multiple times while it is already processing. Currently, if the button is clicked and then clicked multiple times before the first process is done, the mouseUp script will run over and over again after each script is completed. Any ideas? My preference is to disable the button at the start of the mouseUp handler and enable it again at the end. Simple and beautiful solution :-) Secondly, does anyone know of a way to change the dock's icon (OS X) of your application while it is running? Yes, this is now possible although unsupported. If you set "the icon" to the ID of a suitable image i.e. 128 x 128 pixels or less, then the dock icon changes to match. Check the "What's New.txt" file in your Rev folder for more details. Although officially unsupported, this feature seems to be that mature that even RunRev relies on it! The dock icon showing the actual version number is generated "on the fly" at the startup of Rev and it works just fine, so i think this is a usable feature right now. Cheers, Sarah Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: MySQL version
On 9/29/06, Ruslan Zasukhin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 9/29/06 7:33 AM, "Cat Kutay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am running Revolution 2.6 and mySQL 5.1.They seem to be incompatable, > it that correct? Cat, See my prev email about license of 5.0 mySQL. Even if you use driver in your app -- you should pay them most probably for 5.x Ruslan, I understand that you really want to sell Valentina, but in this case, your answer was completely irrelevant to Cat's problem. Please try to restrict your advertising to more appropriate postings. Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Delayed Mouse Clicks
Hi Sarah, Trevor and Klaus,
You might also clear pending events at the mouseUp handler's end:
put flushEvents("mouseUp") into tHell ;-)
Le 29 sept. 06 à 13:42, Klaus Major a écrit :
Hi Sarah and Trevor,
On 9/29/06, Trevor Hopkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I have a button that, when clicked, runs a process that takes a
few seconds.
I'd like to do a little error prevention and prevent the user from
accidentally clicking on it multiple times while it is already
processing.
Currently, if the button is clicked and then clicked multiple
times before
the first process is done, the mouseUp script will run over and
over again
after each script is completed.
Any ideas?
My preference is to disable the button at the start of the mouseUp
handler and enable it again at the end.
Simple and beautiful solution :-)
Secondly, does anyone know of a way to change the dock's icon (OS
X) of your
application while it is running?
Yes, this is now possible although unsupported. If you set "the icon"
to the ID of a suitable image i.e. 128 x 128 pixels or less, then the
dock icon changes to match. Check the "What's New.txt" file in your
Rev folder for more details.
Although officially unsupported, this feature seems to be that
mature that
even RunRev relies on it!
The dock icon showing the actual version number is generated "on
the fly"
at the startup of Rev and it works just fine, so i think this is a
usable feature
right now.
Best Regards from Paris,
Eric Chatonet
--
http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
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Re: Delayed Mouse Clicks
Bonjour Eric,
Hi Sarah, Trevor and Klaus,
You might also clear pending events at the mouseUp handler's end:
put flushEvents("mouseUp") into tHell ;-)
Ah, yes, always for get this one!
Or the more existentialist approach:
put flushEvents("mouseUp") into l_enfer_c_est_nous
## :-D
Have a nice weekend.
Regards from sunny germany
Klaus Major
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Re: [OT] Re: Filthy Apples
http://www.roughlydrafted.com/RD/Home/E83D58B3-10E0-4A9C-8847- BCE665EE235C.html On 28 Sep 2006, at 21:05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://daringfireball.net/linked/2006/september#tue-26-recycles Gr W. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: MySQL version
On 9/29/06 2:44 PM, "Sarah Reichelt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> I am running Revolution 2.6 and mySQL 5.1.They seem to be incompatable, >>> it that correct? >> >> Cat, >> >> See my prev email about license of 5.0 mySQL. >> >> Even if you use driver in your app -- >> you should pay them most probably for 5.x > > > Ruslan, I understand that you really want to sell Valentina, but in > this case, your answer was completely irrelevant to Cat's problem. > Please try to restrict your advertising to more appropriate postings. Okay Sarah, in fact I have forget to write direct point: yes, most probably they are not compatible, because Revolution most probably do not use drivers of 5.0. But you, Sarah, also write: > Rev's MySQL drivers use the old style passwords. If you can set your > MySQL server to allow version 4 passwords, it will work fine. Hmm, so Rev use 5.x also ? This raise issue... -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Delayed Mouse Clicks
Aloha Eric 'n Klaus,
Thanks for both of your precious reminders ;-)
Best,
Pierre
Le 29 sept. 06 à 13:55, Klaus Major a écrit :
Bonjour Eric,
Hi Sarah, Trevor and Klaus,
You might also clear pending events at the mouseUp handler's end:
put flushEvents("mouseUp") into tHell ;-)
Ah, yes, always for get this one!
Or the more existentialist approach:
put flushEvents("mouseUp") into l_enfer_c_est_nous
## :-D
Have a nice weekend.
Regards from sunny germany
Klaus Major
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.major-k.de
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Re: MySQL version
Some useful instructions for new mySQL and Revolution: http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/tips/data004.htm Viktoras ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution, MySQL vs FileMaker
One more on the subject: Why not install FM Pro Server and then access it via ODBC with Standalones in the client machines? Does it work? I have been able to connect to MySQL with RR's Query Builder but I couldn't do the same to connect to FM Pro with ODBC, I have the drivers and the ODBC Administrator (All this on Mac OS X 10.4), I created the DSN and nada. Ideas please... Saludos, Javier Miranda V. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
A bug in the revSpeechVoices function?
It is in the subject ;-)
I run DreamCard 2.6.1 build 152 (sorry!)
I wonder if this bug is known - and if it is solved in the newer
Revoltion versions...
the help says:
=
revSpeechVoices([voiceGender])
revSpeechVoices()
revSpeechVoices("female")
put revSpeechVoices("neuter") into button "Voices Menu"
See also: revSetSpeechVoice command, revSpeak command
Description
Use the revSpeechVoices function to find out what voices can be used to
speak text on the current system.
Parameters:
The voiceGender is one of "male", "female", or "neuter". If you don't
specify a voiceGender, all voices are returned.
in fact, revSpeechVoices() only gives all the voices (OK)
revSpeechVoices("female") gives only the female voices (OK)...
but revSpeechVoices("male") et revSpeechVoices("neuter") give also the
female voices!!
it is to make a small english pronunciation stak for my son
(a very difficult subject for the french people ;-))
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Rev built-in db access
Greetings,
I already use V4REV external in one application but recently thought I
would try Rev's built in access for a new, simpler project. I want to
access the Valentina db using just Rev's supplied commands but I can't
even open a val db. I am using Rev enterprise 2.7.2 on OS X 10.3.9. The
Val db is made for v2 of Valentina.
I have the simple:
on mouseup
answer file "choose file"
put it into fname ---this looks like:
/Users/ronbarber/Documents/Revolution Enterprise/2.7.2-gm-1/test.vdb
put revOpenDatabase("Valentina","",fname"","",) into dbid
put "select ref from book" into sqlword
put revdatafromquery(,,dbid,sqlword) into thetext
end mouseup
I get the following for "dbid":
revdberr,invalid database type
Do I have to init Val or set the externals or is there a problem with
the file name or...?
Thanks
Ron
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Re: MySQL version
I'm not sure. I am using rev 2.7 and mySQL 5.1.11-beta and all is well. Works great. There was a change in the SQL drivers lately, but I thought it was when 2.6 came out. I am running Revolution 2.6 and mySQL 5.1.They seem to be incompatable, it that correct? -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution, MySQL vs FileMaker
all new Dreamhost MySQL connections are v5.0 or greater. They dumped 4.x over a half year ago. * This is why you can note that even host providers do not switch to 5.0 actively. -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Simulating Keystrokes
Hey, I know I can simulate keystrokes from Revolution to my stack by sending the keyDown message, but is there any way to send keystrokes to the system or to other programs? I would like to send keystrokes like "F9" to activate expose, but it would be very nice to be able to send any keystroke. TTFN Bridger ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: A bug in the revSpeechVoices function?
On 9/29/06 9:23 AM, "Dom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is in the subject ;-) > I run DreamCard 2.6.1 build 152 (sorry!) > > I wonder if this bug is known - and if it is solved in the newer > Revoltion versions... No Dom, sorry - it's not solved in Rev 2.7.4 and shows the same problem. And apparently the bug report (#2764) was filed in 2005 and confirmed. Hopefully this will be addressed in the next version of Rev... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Simulating Keystrokes
You can also use the command type to simulate keystrokes. But that doesn't answer your question (I just thought I'd through this out there as it is another way to do simulated keystrokes). You could probably do it with AppleScript. It probably has a mechanism to send keystrokes, or at least activate expose. At 09:34 AM 9/29/2006, you wrote: Hey, I know I can simulate keystrokes from Revolution to my stack by sending the keyDown message, but is there any way to send keystrokes to the system or to other programs? I would like to send keystrokes like "F9" to activate expose, but it would be very nice to be able to send any keystroke. TTFN Bridger ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Quicktime question
Lately I've been incorporating Quicktime mp4 movies into my Rev standalones. When distributing the standalones to others, I've included the Quicktime Player installer, in case they do not have Quicktime (especially Windows users). If they forget to install Quicktime, the movie instead appears as a blank space. My question is as follows: Is there some way, if the user forgets to install Quicktime, that I can have a message in the blank space indicating that the user should install Quicktime? It would be sort similar to what developers do on a web page when a picture doesn't appear; instead there is text explaining what the subject of the picture is. I tried putting a field over the Quicktime movie area with text in it. However, the blank Quicktime box remains layered over the text. Any suggestions? Thanks. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Revolution, MySQL vs FileMaker
> all new Dreamhost MySQL connections are v5.0 or greater. They > dumped 4.x over a half year ago. > > > > >* This is why you can note that even host providers do not switch to > >5.0 actively. I share Stephen's enthusiasm for DreamHost. Several Rev users have gotten RevCGIs to run there. Also, they have a large number of "one-click installs" of popular web applications that are just wonderful. You can get an unlimited number of domains per account for very little. One caveat is that some web apps have security sensitive parts deactivated. Its possible to compile and upload your own version of PHP (for example) and get around this in some cases. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks Worldwide Business Operations Runtime Revolution, Ltd ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
re: delayed mouse clicks
This isn't as elegant as some of the the other solutions, but it gets the job done, especially when you want no clicks anywhere at all while a script is running. I just put a transparent button with no script that covers the entire stack in the top layer. on whatEver show btn "preventActions" --the script in question hide btn "preventActions" end whatEver Greetings from sunny Estonia! Lars ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Quicktime question
You should be able to do a check for the QT version when launching your app, then prompt them to install if it comes up empty. Just bear in mind that you can't legally distribute the QT installer without a license from Apple. It's a free license, but rather restricted - things like only being able to distribute the newest version. Ian On 29 Sep 2006, at 16:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lately I've been incorporating Quicktime mp4 movies into my Rev standalones. When distributing the standalones to others, I've included the Quicktime Player installer, in case they do not have Quicktime (especially Windows users). If they forget to install Quicktime, the movie instead appears as a blank space. My question is as follows: Is there some way, if the user forgets to install Quicktime, that I can have a message in the blank space indicating that the user should install Quicktime? It would be sort similar to what developers do on a web page when a picture doesn't appear; instead there is text explaining what the subject of the picture is. I tried putting a field over the Quicktime movie area with text in it. However, the blank Quicktime box remains layered over the text. Any suggestions? Thanks. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Re: Filthy Apples
And doesn't t his underscore a very interesting thing about the way Americans have come to think about personal responsibility? If I purchase something that I know will eventually be a problem to get rid of, isn't that my responsibility and not the manufacturers to make sure there is a way? When did we come to think it was the manufacturer's PRIMARY responsibility and not the consumer's? And btw, did anyone ever see what they did with the spent nuclear fuel for the Delorean in Back To The Future? Bob Sneidar IT Manager Logos Management Calvary Chapel CM On Sep 28, 2006, at 3:19 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: How ironic. Greenpeace targets Apple because it knows Apple's consumers are most influenced by these sort of issues. Frankly, I'd be VERY surprised if Dell, HP and the rest aren't as bad or worse than Apple. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[OT] Re: Filthy Apples
I had no intention, in my original posting, of implying that Apple computers were filthier than any other manufacturer . . . I am absolutely sure that all computers are filled with filthy muck! And, as another poster pointed out, that is the price for fancy technology. But filthy muck may not have to go on being the price of fancy technology - and as we are all paying our hard-earned money to the companies that manufacture the fancy technology we might consider changing some of our "feature requests" from ever more mind-bogglingly fast processors (face it when was the last time you managed to have gulp of your favourite drink before the fancy technology made its next move?) to technology that is fancy in a different way. To speed this on its way I propose that a fund should be set up; all people who purchase computers should be obliged to deposit 1 US dollar per machine purchased into it - as a prize for the person who can first produce a computer that contains no poisonous metals . . . OK, OK, . . . I am finding it difficult to get the monitor I designed from potatoes to feature multiple resolutions :) facetious, or not, it might be sensible to cut down on the Cadmium! sincerely, Richmond Mathewson "Philosophical problems are confusions arising owing to the fluidity of meanings users attach to words and phrases." Mathewson, 2006 ___ All New Yahoo! Mail Tired of [EMAIL PROTECTED]@! come-ons? Let our SpamGuard protect you. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Quicktime question
Hi Steve - You can check the QTVersion before starting the player. If the QTVersion = 0.0, QT is not installed. Phil Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lately I've been incorporating Quicktime mp4 movies into my Rev standalones. When distributing the standalones to others, I've included the Quicktime Player installer, in case they do not have Quicktime (especially Windows users). If they forget to install Quicktime, the movie instead appears as a blank space. My question is as follows: Is there some way, if the user forgets to install Quicktime, that I can have a message in the blank space indicating that the user should install Quicktime? It would be sort similar to what developers do on a web page when a picture doesn't appear; instead there is text explaining what the subject of the picture is. I tried putting a field over the Quicktime movie area with text in it. However, the blank Quicktime box remains layered over the text. Any suggestions? Thanks. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[OT] Re: Filthy Apples
Um . . . morality . . . responsibility . . . With all due respect to Bob Sneidar (who wishes to lay the responsibility for filthy computers completely in the purchaser's lap), I think that this case is mutual . . . The theory that manufacturers will only manufacture what is demanded of them (so the responsibility for filthy things lies with the consumer) forgets 'push' - if, for the sake of argument, we look at one manufacturer of filthy computers (er . . . Apple) we can see that they spend buckets of money creating demand. of course not everyone if seduced by Steve Jobs' blandishments (? hm ?) therefore the responsibility must be shared. Computer manufacturers setting up their own recycling operations and offering trade-ins might be a good start. Richmond Mathewson "Philosophical problems are confusions arising owing to the fluidity of meanings users attach to words and phrases." Mathewson, 2006 ___ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev built-in db access
On 9/29/06 5:23 PM, "ron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Greetings,
> I already use V4REV external in one application but recently thought I
> would try Rev's built in access for a new, simpler project. I want to
> access the Valentina db using just Rev's supplied commands but I can't
> even open a val db. I am using Rev enterprise 2.7.2 on OS X 10.3.9. The
> Val db is made for v2 of Valentina.
>
> I have the simple:
>
> on mouseup
>answer file "choose file"
>put it into fname ---this looks like:
> /Users/ronbarber/Documents/Revolution Enterprise/2.7.2-gm-1/test.vdb
>put revOpenDatabase("Valentina","",fname"","",) into dbid
>put "select ref from book" into sqlword
>put revdatafromquery(,,dbid,sqlword) into thetext
> end mouseup
>
> I get the following for "dbid":
>
> revdberr,invalid database type
>
> Do I have to init Val or set the externals or is there a problem with
> the file name or...?
Hi Ron,
Do you use 2.4.2 build ?
I believe this build contains Examples/TestProject
Which do testing of each API function and RBDB way,
As well as bridge ways.
Please check it.
I have CC to Valentina list. I think Kirill can help you
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Re: how to validate fields
Hi Alverio,
I need to validate fields.. for example.. only enter numbers in some
fields.. i need for example fields with format for example Q1.000.50
How i can to put these automatic conditions in a field?
Validation of user field input is generally triggered by a
closeField, enterInField, or (for single line fields) returnInField
message; however character, security, and mask restrictions are
better enforced in keyDown frontScript handlers.
Common validation may include:
* Required field -- Cannot be empty
* Restricted length --Maximum number of characters
* Restricted height -- Maximum number of lines
* Numeric precision -- Number of characters right of the
decimal separator
* Numeric formatting -- Insert/allow thousands separators in numbers
* Specific format -- Date, time, number, currency
* Secure field -- User input is not displayed
* Full field -- Input length must = specified field length
* Auto entry -- Close field when input length = specified field length
* Field mask -- Input must be compliant with mask format
defined for the field
* Xref field -- Validate input as a key to a record or
existing in a table
* Restricted characters -- Digits only, alpha only, uppercase
only, disallowed characters,
low order characters only, positive numbers only,
integers only
Scritping and testing all these possibilities is not trivial; however
once in place -- and I'm still in the testing stage myself -- these
validation checks can be specified in a Data Dictionary and be
automatically enforced with no further scripting.
But there is another approach: design your application so field
validation is minimalized.
If the user selects a date from a calendar, she can _never_ enter an
invalid date. (Incorrect date, yes; but invalid, never.) Likewise
for times selected from a clock image.
If the user selects field input from a pull-down list instead of
typing, the input cannot be invalid (though it might be illogical
juxtaposed with other input).
If, in your example "Q1.000.50", the decimal points are constant, you
could have three user input fields ("Q1", "000", and "50") , validate
each field separately, and concatenate them between decimals to form
the working input.
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Re: Quicktime question
Hi Steve, If the QTVersion is 0.0, QuickTime is not installed (except on Unix, where QTVersion always returns 2.0). If for some reason this doesn't work for you, you could check for QuickTime application files or check the registry if you are on Windows. Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 29-sep-2006, om 17:03 heeft [EMAIL PROTECTED] het volgende geschreven: Lately I've been incorporating Quicktime mp4 movies into my Rev standalones. When distributing the standalones to others, I've included the Quicktime Player installer, in case they do not have Quicktime (especially Windows users). If they forget to install Quicktime, the movie instead appears as a blank space. My question is as follows: Is there some way, if the user forgets to install Quicktime, that I can have a message in the blank space indicating that the user should install Quicktime? It would be sort similar to what developers do on a web page when a picture doesn't appear; instead there is text explaining what the subject of the picture is. I tried putting a field over the Quicktime movie area with text in it. However, the blank Quicktime box remains layered over the text. Any suggestions? Thanks. Steve Goldberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Simulating Keystrokes
Hi Bridger, On Mac OS X, you could use AppleScript GIU scripting. Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 29-sep-2006, om 16:34 heeft Bridger Maxwell het volgende geschreven: Hey, I know I can simulate keystrokes from Revolution to my stack by sending the keyDown message, but is there any way to send keystrokes to the system or to other programs? I would like to send keystrokes like "F9" to activate expose, but it would be very nice to be able to send any keystroke. TTFN Bridger ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: A bug in the revSpeechVoices function?
Ken Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hopefully this will be addressed in the next version of Rev... L'espoir fait vivre ;-) Hope for the best ;-) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: A bug in the revSpeechVoices function?
On Sep 29, 2006, at 8:23 AM, Dom wrote:
in fact, revSpeechVoices() only gives all the voices (OK)
revSpeechVoices("female") gives only the female voices (OK)...
but revSpeechVoices("male") et revSpeechVoices("neuter") give also the
female voices!!
A partial workaround is to "subtract" the two lists to make a "male
or neuter" list.
Dar Scott
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Re: Simulating Keystrokes
On Sep 29, 2006, at 10:34 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote: On Mac OS X, you could use AppleScript GIU scripting. Windows has WSH, the windows scripting host that can handle scripting in several languages with VBBcript and JScript built in. Any of the languages have access to the object WSHShell which has the method SendKeys. You might have to activate the window. I don't think these are recognized by 'do', so you will need to use shell() with cscript. You can probably find examples of the script you need online. I have seen some tools around. And you can make an external. I don't know the situation if the app should not be brought forward. To simulate sending a control-alt-del, start the task manager. I think you can send the rest to a process. Dar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Simulating Keystrokes
Hey, Thanks for all the suggestions. I think that should work for what I am doing, but I was wondering if there was any way to send keystrokes so it seems to the system to be coming from the keyboard. I realize this would probably be a security hole, but I have seen programs, at least on windows, that can simulate any keystroke as if it was coming from the keyboard. Is AS GUI commands as versatile? TTFN Bridger ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
GIF format is going to be free
I don't know if and / or how this affects Revolution but I saw that the GIF format will no longer require fees as of October 1st. http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/node/1772 regards ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Simulating Keystrokes
On Sep 29, 2006, at 12:21 PM, Bridger Maxwell wrote: I was wondering if there was any way to send keystrokes so it seems to the system to be coming from the keyboard. You should be able to insert keystrokes into the HID stream on XP with an external. To get lower, you can replace the keyboard driver. I'm not sure what "seems to the system" means. Do you have something in particular in mind? I think the start menu and bar are windows and you can send keystrokes to them with SendKeys(). Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Quicktime question
Thanks Phil (and Ian Wood and Mark Schonewille)! Knowing that there is no Quicktime version on someone's computer will enable the script to hide the player and see the underlying message. Steve Goldberg In a message dated 9/29/06 2:45:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > From: Phil Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Quicktime question > To: How to use Revolution > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hi Steve - > > You can check the QTVersion before starting the player. If the QTVersion = > 0.0, > QT is not installed. > > Phil Davis > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Lately I've been incorporating Quicktime mp4 movies into my Rev > standalones. > > When distributing the standalones to others, I've included the Quicktime > > Player installer, in case they do not have Quicktime (especially Windows > users). > > If they forget to install Quicktime, the movie instead appears as a blank > > space. My question is as follows: > > Is there some way, if the user forgets to install Quicktime, that I can > have > > a message in the blank space indicating that the user should install > > Quicktime? It would be sort similar to what developers do on a web page > when a > > picture doesn't appear; instead there is text explaining what the subject > of the > > picture is. I tried putting a field over the Quicktime movie area with > text in > > it. However, the blank Quicktime box remains layered over the text. > Any > > suggestions? Thanks. > > Steve Goldberg > ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Revolution, MySQL vs FileMaker
> 3. If you include one or more of the MySQL drivers in your > non-GPL application (so that your application can run with > MySQL), you need a commercial license for the driver(s) in > question. The MySQL drivers currently include an ODBC driver, > a JDBC driver and the C language library. > > Does this mean Runtime Revolution, Inc., pays MySQL, since > they include drivers? > > But it does seem Rick is correct, that distributing a > standalone that includes drivers needs a license- or am I > misreading it? I have two reads on MySQL licensing; I have a certain bias because of my relationship with Paradigma when wearing my Paradigma hat, so be warned :-) The first one is that MySQL AB has tightened up their licensing a few times (granted, interpretations of the GPL have also morphed in that time) and that, based on what I have read, if you incorporate MySQL drivers in your application and its not GPL, you need to pay them. Also, if its commercial venture of any kind, you have to pay them (dig through their references to compensation); it doesn't necessarily matter if you simply tell your customer they need to download MySQL and install it yourself. I visit their website about once a month to see what they are doing with licensing, so maybe something has changed since then. The second one is, they have previously had sprinkled around their website a statement that if you arent sure if you can use it free or not, you should call them or just pay up. From feedback from others who have called, usually the answer is - pay up, and here is a plan, just for you. So the licensing confusion puts you into a position where you are encouraged to call them and enter into a negotiation of pricing. MySQL AB has greatly benefited over the years because of license confusion - a huge number of people in the world assume its free to use, but also a huge number of people don't know the difference really between public domain and GPL. Several years ago when the computer industry was just getting a handle on what GPL means, MySQL AB did a lot of suing - I don't know about now. Now Ill try to put on my Runtime hat if you can suspend disbelief :-) Support for MySQL helps Runtime, because it's a popular database system and supporting it enables customers to make choices. With my Paradigma hat on, I can agree with that - MySQL is not a horrible product, and its popular, and choice and competition in the market are good for everyone, as long as you understand and are happy with their licensing. Now with both hats: I wouldn't incorporate anything into a product if I wasn't really sure in my own head what the license means. If there was any doubt of what to incorporate into Revolution or Valentina, I would be dead set against it. If you have read MySQL's terms and are happy with them and the product, be happy :-) But, if you are relying heavily on the community to help you make a licensing decision because you cannot comprehend the license - please save yourself some heartache and sleepless nights later. Im the sort of person who will not sign anything at all unless I understand the fine print completely - mortgages, codicils, immigration papers, intellectual property licenses, everything. I don't rely on a lawyer saying "yeah, you're good" without some deep explanation. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software, Inc Joining Worlds of Information Deploy True Client-Server Database Solutions Royalty Free with Valentina Developer Network http://www.paradigmasoft.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Revolution, MySQL vs FileMaker
I'm not sure if I have this right. Rev includes some MySQL drivers with the package. But we can't distribute an application built using those drivers without some kind of license with MySQL inc.? is that right? I have two reads on MySQL licensing; I have a certain bias because of my relationship with Paradigma when wearing my Paradigma hat, so be warned :-) Im the sort of person who will not sign anything at all unless I understand the fine print completely - mortgages, codicils, immigration papers, intellectual property licenses, everything. I don't rely on a lawyer saying "yeah, you're good" without some deep explanation. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution, MySQL vs FileMaker
On 9/29/06 4:45 PM, "Stephen Barncard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm not sure if I have this right. > > Rev includes some MySQL drivers with the package. But we can't > distribute an application built using those drivers without some kind > of license with MySQL inc.? > > is that right? Sort of... you can't distribute a non-GPLed application without a license from MySQL. This generally covers all commercial applications. In general there are (IMHO) two free uses of mySQL: (1) distributing a fully GPL-compliant application, and (2) accessing a mySQL DB at an ISP via browser-based input (or the equivalent), so that the drivers and database are fully in the hands of the ISP and there's nothing for you to "distribute". I may be wrong, but this is my understanding of the licensing arrangements. Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Revolution, MySQL vs FileMaker
I'm not sure if I have this right. Rev includes some MySQL drivers with the package. But we can't distribute an application built using those drivers without some kind of license with MySQL inc.? is that right? Probably yes, although I am not qualified to give legal advice :) The licensing fees that RR pays to MySQL likely cover only their distributing the drivers with their products, that is in essence your using them in Rev IDE. RR may be even exempted since they sell a development environment. Either way, the way I read it, if you produce a commercial program that you sell (that probably includes also work for hire unless clients pays MySQL) and it includes MySQL drivers or requires users to use MySQL, then you need to pay license to MySQL. It would actually be nice if RR could clarify this for us. Robert ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution, MySQL vs FileMaker
On 9/30/06 1:04 AM, "Ken Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 9/29/06 4:45 PM, "Stephen Barncard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> I'm not sure if I have this right. >> >> Rev includes some MySQL drivers with the package. But we can't >> distribute an application built using those drivers without some kind >> of license with MySQL inc.? >> >> is that right? > > Sort of... you can't distribute a non-GPLed application without a license > from MySQL. This generally covers all commercial applications. > > In general there are (IMHO) two free uses of mySQL: (1) distributing a fully > GPL-compliant application, and (2) accessing a mySQL DB at an ISP via > browser-based input (or the equivalent), so that the drivers and database > are fully in the hands of the ISP and there's nothing for you to > "distribute". > > I may be wrong, but this is my understanding of the licensing arrangements. Hi Ken, This is exactly how me also understand this. Also I want add another points: MySQL commercial license require that you pay a) PER SERVER i.e. If you develop something for school or game or accounting or ... Other app that you want sale by 1000 copies you need pay them 1000 * $400 = $400,000 Although most probably exists some special volume discounts which you can obtain if call them Actually this is NORMAL for db vendors that sale DBMS SERVERS. Look on MS SQL, Oracle, Sybase. You need pay for EACH server. b) PER YEAR mySQL want that $400 per server EACH YEAR of use. c) PER APPLICATION. if you have develop 3 applications you need pay for each. actually this is masked for mySQL because of "per server" license D) Note, that commercial license do not say that IF you use driver but store db on some ISP host you get it for free. Commercial license says: IF your non-GPL app uses driver - you must pay. Point. - P.S. (sorry for kind of advertise, which I consider as information): Valentina have quite REVERSE nature of license for Valentina Embedded Server that was designed specially for Application Developers. Note, all Revolution, REALbasic, Director, VisualBASIC, Delphi, C#, C/C++ developers are who? Right. We all are Application developers. We all get as result of our job some .EXE. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution, MySQL vs FileMaker
- P.S. (sorry for kind of advertise, which I consider as information): yes, I need to know this. Ruslan, I've gone a long way into my project. I have questions: 1. Does Valentina run the main MySQL syntax as is, or is it very different. 2. Is there a tool like CocoaMySQL (macintosh) to administer the Valentina Database? 3. You quoted a developer price for Valentina - $199 - is that for one seat, deployed on any number of applications? 4. The cost of the Valentina server - per user? sqb Valentina have quite REVERSE nature of license for Valentina Embedded Server that was designed specially for Application Developers. Note, all Revolution, REALbasic, Director, VisualBASIC, Delphi, C#, C/C++ developers are who? Right. We all are Application developers. We all get as result of our job some .EXE. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution, MySQL vs FileMaker
On 9/29/06 6:12 PM, "Ruslan Zasukhin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> In general there are (IMHO) two free uses of mySQL: (1) distributing a fully >> GPL-compliant application, and (2) accessing a mySQL DB at an ISP via >> browser-based input (or the equivalent), so that the drivers and database >> are fully in the hands of the ISP and there's nothing for you to >> "distribute". >> >> I may be wrong, but this is my understanding of the licensing arrangements. > > Hi Ken, > > MySQL commercial license require that you pay > > a) PER SERVER > b) PER YEAR > c) PER APPLICATION. Note that the license is usually negotiated with the customer, so it may end up being one, two, or all of the above, depending. MySQL AB, although they are (as I think Lynn put it) "profiting on the confusion of the licensing arrangements", they are also quite flexible in their licensing and are willing to adjust things based on the specific parameters of the application being distributed. (At least, that's how they have been to me.) As always, it's a "right tool for the right job" kind of argument. There are many situations where Valentina/PostgreSQL/mySQL/SQLLite/(fill in your favorite DB) doesn't fit the bill. Just my 2 cents from personal experience, Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: GIF format is going to be free
I think GIF export has been in Rev for sometime now. GIF import has always worked (to my knowledge). best, Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Quicktime question
A quick question - I have a QuickTime mp4 - which plays fine in QuickTime Player - but with Rev o the intel PowerMac I have here - the fan goes really crazy and the film stutters a bit. What"s the low down on the difference in getting QuickTime to play movies from QuickTime Player or Rev? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Quicktime question
On 9/29/06 9:15 PM, "David Bovill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A quick question - I have a QuickTime mp4 - which plays fine in > QuickTime Player - but with Rev o the intel PowerMac I have here - the > fan goes really crazy and the film stutters a bit. What"s the low down > on the difference in getting QuickTime to play movies from QuickTime > Player or Rev? Are you playing this through a standalone or the Rev IDE? Because if it's a standalone, you'll have to build it as a Universal Binary or Intel Only standalone otherwise QuickTime will be interpreted through the Rosetta interpreter and will slow down QT playback... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Revolution, MySQL vs FileMaker
> D) Note, that commercial license do not say that IF you use > driver but store db on some ISP host you get it for free. > Commercial license says: IF your non-GPL app uses driver - > you must pay. Point. Yes, this is how dreamhost lets you have all those nice apps - like Ken said, you don't lay your hands on much of anything. > P.S. (sorry for kind of advertise, which I consider as information): > > Valentina have quite REVERSE nature of license for Valentina > Embedded Server that was designed specially for Application > Developers. And there you have it - the Valentina license was designed to compete with mySQL :-) Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software, Inc Joining Worlds of Information Deploy True Client-Server Database Solutions Royalty Free with Valentina Developer Network http://www.paradigmasoft.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Revolution, MySQL vs FileMaker
> In general there are (IMHO) two free uses of mySQL: (1) > distributing a fully GPL-compliant application, and (2) > accessing a mySQL DB at an ISP via browser-based input (or > the equivalent), so that the drivers and database are fully > in the hands of the ISP and there's nothing for you to "distribute". > > I may be wrong, but this is my understanding of the licensing > arrangements. Im not sure #1 doesn't have additional strings attached, but that's been my read. However #2 is my understanding as well, allowing jo blow to set up Wordpress, Joomla and other goodies without worry. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software, Inc Joining Worlds of Information Deploy True Client-Server Database Solutions Royalty Free with Valentina Developer Network http://www.paradigmasoft.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Revolution, MySQL vs FileMaker
> Note that the license is usually negotiated with the > customer, so it may end up being one, two, or all of the > above, depending. MySQL AB, although they are (as I think > Lynn put it) "profiting on the confusion of the licensing > arrangements", they are also quite flexible in their > licensing and are willing to adjust things based on the > specific parameters of the application being distributed. (At > least, that's how they have been to me.) That's true - but they cleverly put you into a situation where you have to come to them. Dang, why didn't I think of that first?;-) > As always, it's a "right tool for the right job" kind of > argument. There are many situations where > Valentina/PostgreSQL/mySQL/SQLLite/(fill in your favorite DB) > doesn't fit the bill. > > Just my 2 cents from personal experience, The market is packed full of dbs so developers have lots of choices. Valentina thrives because it has a unique underlying technology - so choose it if you fall in love with its unique features. The downside is that we don't wave the GPL flag. In a general sense though, I strongly urge anyone who has to make a choice to think about where your product/company is going to be down the road. If you ported to Revolution from another environment, you know that can be painful. Moving your customers to a new db back end also comes with its own special brand of pain. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software, Inc Joining Worlds of Information Deploy True Client-Server Database Solutions Royalty Free with Valentina Developer Network http://www.paradigmasoft.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Re: Filthy Apples
I believe that here in California, there is a new state law that requires depositing all such used computing equipment at a state-designated/approved recycling/disposal facility. Judy On Fri, 29 Sep 2006, Richmond Mathewson wrote: > I had no intention, in my original posting, of > implying that Apple computers were filthier than any > other manufacturer . . . > > I am absolutely sure that all computers are filled > with filthy muck! > > And, as another poster pointed out, that is the price > for fancy technology. > > But filthy muck may not have to go on being the price > of fancy technology - and as we are all paying our > hard-earned money to the companies that manufacture > the fancy technology we might consider changing some > of our "feature requests" from ever more > mind-bogglingly fast processors (face it when was the > last time you managed to have gulp of your favourite > drink before the fancy technology made its next move?) > to technology that is fancy in a different way. > > To speed this on its way I propose that a fund should > be set up; all people who purchase computers should be > obliged to deposit 1 US dollar per machine purchased > into it - as a prize for the person who can first > produce a computer that contains no poisonous metals . > . . > > OK, OK, . . . I am finding it difficult to get the > monitor I designed from potatoes to feature multiple > resolutions :) > > facetious, or not, it might be sensible to cut down on > the Cadmium! > > sincerely, Richmond Mathewson > > > > "Philosophical problems are confusions arising owing to the fluidity of > meanings users attach to words and phrases." >Mathewson, 2006 > > > > > ___ > All New Yahoo! Mail ? Tired of [EMAIL PROTECTED]@! come-ons? Let our > SpamGuard protect you. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Re: Filthy Apples
And even better, this year consumers in California pay about $10/item more on purchase price for recycling monitors and computers. My local 'sanitary engineers', Sunset Scavenger, is now only two happy to take my old monitors now... I believe that here in California, there is a new state law that requires depositing all such used computing equipment at a state-designated/approved recycling/disposal facility. Judy -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
SRe: [OT] Re: Filthy Apples
So, do you think this is a good thing or a bad thing? Judy On Fri, 29 Sep 2006, Stephen Barncard wrote: > And even better, this year consumers in California pay about $10/item > more on purchase price for recycling monitors and computers. My local > 'sanitary engineers', Sunset Scavenger, is now only two happy to take > my old monitors now... > > > >I believe that here in California, there is a new state law that requires > >depositing all such used computing equipment at a > >state-designated/approved recycling/disposal facility. > > ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
