When my relatives moved to Linux

2006-11-09 Thread Richmond Mathewson
I made a jolly little stack (on a Mac computer),
Family.rev, to 
test my kids' knowledge of word such as aunt,
uncle, 
cousin and so on.

It is available on RevOnline: Family Words

So, took it downstairs and popped it on my Linux boxes
and . . .

dull thud!

an important part of the functionality would not work.

Card 2 features a family tree with 14 text boxes for 
end-users to fill in with kinship terms 

[doesn't it sound all pompous and pseudo-academic 
when I use words like 'end-users' and 'kinship terms' 
instead of 'kids' and 'family words'? - jargonised 
nonsense really] 

and by each textbox there is a 'tick' image - when 
the kid clicks on it, it checks the content of the
textbox 
and how many other textboxes have had text entered 
correctly into them; if that total is 14 it send a 'go
next' 
signal.

Worked on Mac,

Nothing doing on Linux.

Help gratefully received, Richmond Mathewson



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Re: When my relatives moved to Linux

2006-11-09 Thread Bill Marriott
FWIW, it seems to work as intended on Windows.

Now, what exactly happens on Linux? And which flavor of Linux?

I looked at the script of your stack... you really like the brute force 
approach to programming, it seems! I can't quite figure out what it all does 
or how... maybe you could run the debugger and at least indicate where it 
seems to go south in the code?

Richmond Mathewson reported:


I made a jolly little stack (on a Mac computer),

[...]

Worked on Mac,

Nothing doing on Linux.
 



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Re: When my relatives moved to Linux

2006-11-09 Thread Bill Marriott
Followup:

Are you running this on Linux as a standalone? I bet you are, because the 
stack doesn't work on Windows or Mac as a standalone, either.

You're running into the 10-statement runtime limitation with that do field 
'fSum' business.

Easy way to fix that:

put 0 into fld SSS
repeat with i = 1 to 14
  if the vis of img(Y  i) = true then add 1 to fld SSS
end repeat
put fld SSS into SSUM
if SSum = 14 then
  doSuccess
else
  put empty into fld SSS
end if

Then in the card or stack script,

on doSuccess
  wait 50 ticks
  visual effect venetian blinds
  go next
end doSuccess

The loop condenses your brute force script considerably.

Or, just put the whole thing into an object that is static.



Bill Marriott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 FWIW, it seems to work as intended on Windows.

 Now, what exactly happens on Linux? And which flavor of Linux?

 I looked at the script of your stack... you really like the brute force 
 approach to programming, it seems! I can't quite figure out what it all 
 does or how... maybe you could run the debugger and at least indicate 
 where it seems to go south in the code?

 Richmond Mathewson reported:


 I made a jolly little stack (on a Mac computer),

 [...]

 Worked on Mac,

 Nothing doing on Linux.
 


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Re: When my relatives moved to Linux

2006-11-09 Thread John Craig
Works fine on Suse Linux 10 and Rev 2.6.1 - after I reread your mail and 
actually played it properly and clicked the check marks!
You're a lot younger than I imagined you - that picture IS up to date, 
isn't it??


JC

Richmond Mathewson wrote:

I made a jolly little stack (on a Mac computer),
Family.rev, to 
test my kids' knowledge of word such as aunt,
uncle, 
cousin and so on.


It is available on RevOnline: Family Words

So, took it downstairs and popped it on my Linux boxes
and . . .

dull thud!

an important part of the functionality would not work.

Card 2 features a family tree with 14 text boxes for 
end-users to fill in with kinship terms 

[doesn't it sound all pompous and pseudo-academic 
when I use words like 'end-users' and 'kinship terms' 
instead of 'kids' and 'family words'? - jargonised 
nonsense really] 

and by each textbox there is a 'tick' image - when 
the kid clicks on it, it checks the content of the
textbox 
and how many other textboxes have had text entered 
correctly into them; if that total is 14 it send a 'go
next' 
signal.


Worked on Mac,

Nothing doing on Linux.

Help gratefully received, Richmond Mathewson



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   Mathewson 2006




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Re: When my relatives moved to Linux

2006-11-09 Thread John Craig

OK - so I had to read your email one more time - ignore picture remark!

John Craig wrote:
Works fine on Suse Linux 10 and Rev 2.6.1 - after I reread your mail 
and actually played it properly and clicked the check marks!
You're a lot younger than I imagined you - that picture IS up to date, 
isn't it??


JC

Richmond Mathewson wrote:

I made a jolly little stack (on a Mac computer),
Family.rev, to test my kids' knowledge of word such as aunt,
uncle, cousin and so on.

It is available on RevOnline: Family Words

So, took it downstairs and popped it on my Linux boxes
and . . .

dull thud!

an important part of the functionality would not work.

Card 2 features a family tree with 14 text boxes for end-users to 
fill in with kinship terms
[doesn't it sound all pompous and pseudo-academic when I use words 
like 'end-users' and 'kinship terms' instead of 'kids' and 'family 
words'? - jargonised nonsense really]
and by each textbox there is a 'tick' image - when the kid clicks on 
it, it checks the content of the
textbox and how many other textboxes have had text entered correctly 
into them; if that total is 14 it send a 'go

next' signal.

Worked on Mac,

Nothing doing on Linux.

Help gratefully received, Richmond Mathewson



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Re: When my relatives moved to Linux

2006-11-09 Thread John Craig

Didn't work as standalone on Suse either.

Bill Marriott wrote:

Followup:

Are you running this on Linux as a standalone? I bet you are, because the 
stack doesn't work on Windows or Mac as a standalone, either.


You're running into the 10-statement runtime limitation with that do field 
'fSum' business.


Easy way to fix that:

put 0 into fld SSS
repeat with i = 1 to 14
  if the vis of img(Y  i) = true then add 1 to fld SSS
end repeat
put fld SSS into SSUM
if SSum = 14 then
  doSuccess
else
  put empty into fld SSS
end if

Then in the card or stack script,

on doSuccess
  wait 50 ticks
  visual effect venetian blinds
  go next
end doSuccess

The loop condenses your brute force script considerably.

Or, just put the whole thing into an object that is static.



Bill Marriott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  

FWIW, it seems to work as intended on Windows.

Now, what exactly happens on Linux? And which flavor of Linux?

I looked at the script of your stack... you really like the brute force 
approach to programming, it seems! I can't quite figure out what it all 
does or how... maybe you could run the debugger and at least indicate 
where it seems to go south in the code?


Richmond Mathewson reported:


I made a jolly little stack (on a Mac computer),


[...]

Worked on Mac,

Nothing doing on Linux.



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libURLSetStatusCallback

2006-11-09 Thread jhonken
Dave,
  Thanks that works great.  I'm still not understanding how the
libUrlSetStatusCallback works.  I've been reading the docs and I keep
getting an error with the following test code:
 
libURLSetStatusCallback myProgress,the long ID of me

go stack URL http://www.x12help.com/mystack.rev; in a new window

put myProgress into fld tester

 

I have a button that is executing the code above and an empty field
called tester.  From what I've read I think the messages is going into
MyProgress which I think I should be able to put out to a field or
progress bar.  I keep getting the error below.  I'd appreciate any help
I could get.  Jeff

executing at 9:45:37 AM

Type Chunk: no such object

Object Monitor

Line put myProgress into fld tester

Hint tester

 


On 8 Nov 2006, at 22:04, jhonken wrote:

 How would you catch an error with the Go Stack URL if the URL was  
 non
 existant would you use the URLStatus?

 Also can you combine the Go Stack URL with the URLStatus and  
 feed it
 to a progrress bar?

You won't be able to use urlStatus, but you can use  
libUrlSetStatusCallback to track the progress.

As for checking errors, it is probably easier to check the result.

go stack url myUrl
put the result into tRes
if tRes is not empty then
   answer tRes
end if

Cheers
Dave

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cscreen shell command

2006-11-09 Thread Jon Adams

Hi,

Would somebody be kind enough to send me a copy of cscreen. 
Apparently, the authors site is down for an indefinite period of time.


Thanks in advance,

Jon
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Re: libURLSetStatusCallback

2006-11-09 Thread Dave Cragg


On 9 Nov 2006, at 14:55, jhonken wrote:


Dave,
  Thanks that works great.  I'm still not understanding how the
libUrlSetStatusCallback works.  I've been reading the docs and I keep
getting an error with the following test code:

libURLSetStatusCallback myProgress,the long ID of me

go stack URL http://www.x12help.com/mystack.rev; in a new window

put myProgress into fld tester



I have a button that is executing the code above and an empty field
called tester.


myProgress is the name of a handler (message). Try something like this:

on mouseUp
  libURLSetStatusCallback myProgress,the long ID of me
  go stack URL http://www.x12help.com/mystack.rev;
end mouseUp


on myProgress pUrl, pStatusString
  put pStatusString into field tester
end myProgress

Cheers
Dave
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Re: Clipboard Anomally [BUG]?

2006-11-09 Thread Chipp Walters

Kay,
Isn't there a simpler recipe...like open up BBEdit, select text, copy, then
paste into fld text?

Frankly, I'm not sure I even understand where the bug lies, the failure to
copy the text by Rev, or the failure of Automator to put the text on the
clipboard in a timely matter?

If I were you, I might want to try and distill this into a simpler form,
where anyone can recreate the bug in the minimal number of steps, w/out
introducing so many different outside variables.

Oh, and I might try:
wait 10 seconds with messages

Good luck!

-Chipp
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Rev CGI, Linux, MySQL, invalid database type

2006-11-09 Thread Dave Cragg

Hi

I'm getting the often mentioned invalid database type when  
connecting to a MySQL server from a Rev CGI on Linux. I've done this  
successfully before, but not on this server. So I'm wondering what  
I've forgotten or overlooked.


The CGI setup is fine. Non-database CGIs work.

The Rev engine I'm using is version 2.6.1 (that's the engine  
version).  I'm using revdb_setdriverpath to set the driver path.


The MySQL version is 3.23.58. Is it possible the driver from Rev  
2.1.2 (equivalent revVersion package) doesn't work with that version?  
(I used it before with MySQL 4.x.


The revdb_connect line is like this:

   put revdb_connect(mysql,sDBHost,sDBName,sDBUser,sDBPass) into  
sDBID


I've tried mysql in various case combinations, but with no luck.  
(It worked in lower case before.)


Any help appreciated.

Cheers
Dave
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Re: cscreen shell command

2006-11-09 Thread Mark Schonewille

Assuming there are no copyright issues...

http://economy-x-talk.com/software/cscreen.zip

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Op 9-nov-2006, om 17:36 heeft Jon Adams het volgende geschreven:


Hi,

Would somebody be kind enough to send me a copy of cscreen.  
Apparently, the authors site is down for an indefinite period of time.


Thanks in advance,

Jon




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Re: Rev CGI, Linux, MySQL, invalid database type

2006-11-09 Thread Viktoras Didziulis
Hi Dave, 
 
try executing in mySQL admin before connecting to the database: 
SET PASSWORD FOR 'user'@'host'=OLD_PASSWORD('password'); 
 
hint source: 
http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/tips/data004.htm 
 
Viktoras 
 
---Original Message--- 
 
From: Dave Cragg 
Date: 11/09/06 18:06:40 
To: How to use Revolution 
Subject: Rev CGI, Linux, MySQL, invalid database type 
 
Hi 
 
I'm getting the often mentioned invalid database type when 
connecting to a MySQL server from a Rev CGI on Linux. I've done this 
successfully before, but not on this server. So I'm wondering what 
I've forgotten or overlooked. 
 
The CGI setup is fine. Non-database CGIs work. 
 
The Rev engine I'm using is version 2.6.1 (that's the engine 
version). I'm using revdb_setdriverpath to set the driver path. 
 
The MySQL version is 3.23.58. Is it possible the driver from Rev 
2.1.2 (equivalent revVersion package) doesn't work with that version? 
(I used it before with MySQL 4.x. 
 
The revdb_connect line is like this: 
 
put revdb_connect(mysql,sDBHost,sDBName,sDBUser,sDBPass) into 
sDBID 
 
I've tried mysql in various case combinations, but with no luck. 
(It worked in lower case before.) 
 
Any help appreciated. 
 
Cheers 
Dave 
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Re: Rev CGI, Linux, MySQL, invalid database type

2006-11-09 Thread chris bohnert

Hi Dave,

You might try:

chmod 774 dbmysql.so

and failing that

chown apache:apache dbmysql.so (assuming your cgis run as apache)

and then tweak back to the appropriate level of security for your instance.

--
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On 11/9/06, Viktoras Didziulis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi Dave,

try executing in mySQL admin before connecting to the database:
SET PASSWORD FOR 'user'@'host'=OLD_PASSWORD('password');

hint source:
http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/tips/data004.htm

Viktoras

---Original Message---

From: Dave Cragg
Date: 11/09/06 18:06:40
To: How to use Revolution
Subject: Rev CGI, Linux, MySQL, invalid database type

Hi

I'm getting the often mentioned invalid database type when
connecting to a MySQL server from a Rev CGI on Linux. I've done this
successfully before, but not on this server. So I'm wondering what
I've forgotten or overlooked.

The CGI setup is fine. Non-database CGIs work.

The Rev engine I'm using is version 2.6.1 (that's the engine
version). I'm using revdb_setdriverpath to set the driver path.

The MySQL version is 3.23.58. Is it possible the driver from Rev
2.1.2 (equivalent revVersion package) doesn't work with that version?
(I used it before with MySQL 4.x.

The revdb_connect line is like this:

put revdb_connect(mysql,sDBHost,sDBName,sDBUser,sDBPass) into
sDBID

I've tried mysql in various case combinations, but with no luck.
(It worked in lower case before.)

Any help appreciated.

Cheers
Dave
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RE: libURLSetStatusCallback

2006-11-09 Thread jhonken
Dave,
  Again that worked great.  I'm going to try to feed it into a progress
bar next.  Jeff

-Original Message-
From: Dave Cragg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:53 AM
To: How to use Revolution
Subject: Re: libURLSetStatusCallback



On 9 Nov 2006, at 14:55, jhonken wrote:

 Dave,
   Thanks that works great.  I'm still not understanding how the 
 libUrlSetStatusCallback works.  I've been reading the docs and I keep

 getting an error with the following test code:

 libURLSetStatusCallback myProgress,the long ID of me

 go stack URL http://www.x12help.com/mystack.rev; in a new window

 put myProgress into fld tester



 I have a button that is executing the code above and an empty field 
 called tester.

myProgress is the name of a handler (message). Try something like this:

on mouseUp
   libURLSetStatusCallback myProgress,the long ID of me
   go stack URL http://www.x12help.com/mystack.rev;
end mouseUp


on myProgress pUrl, pStatusString
   put pStatusString into field tester
end myProgress

Cheers
Dave
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Re: Newbie information and list attitude

2006-11-09 Thread FlexibleLearning
Welcome, Francis!
 
Old hand newbies, newbie old hands, old hand old hands and newbie newbies  
are all welcome with their contributions that enrich everyone's experience. No  
one knows everything, we all have our own areas of uncertainty, and every  
question, every answer, every comment is a potential goldmine for  someone.

/H

.../...

I have benefitted enormously from this  forum because
you guys know so much (and yet I have 30 years of
experience  in programming).

I have not often given to this forum because I'm  reticent
to offer my limited knowledge (and also very slow on the draw  !),
but I hope to remedy this situation ...

.../...
 
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Thanks to all the non-native English speakers

2006-11-09 Thread FlexibleLearning
It occured to me that credit should be given to  all those whose mother 
tongue is not English for writing here. It is hard enough  to write in a 
foreign 
language, but all you guys and gals have to do it in  a 'technical' way as 
well. 
The time needed to transfer your thoughts into  English should not be 
under-estimated, especially when 'we' take it all for  granted.

/H  

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Re: Open Letter to Rev: Quality Is Job #1

2006-11-09 Thread Dave


On 7 Nov 2006, at 18:39, Marielle Lange wrote:


Luis wrote in response to Jacque:
And, when elaborating a point for which you have no control is an  
especially telling consequence of an inability to be forthcoming  
with the facts. Just a thought.

The above is a weak and wordy way of calling Jacque a liar.


Can you please stop this!?

My own understanding is that you put in Luis' mouth words he never  
had.


Take the facts: I had *exactly* the same problems as Luis. I sent 3  
emails to support, spaced by a week, I only got an answer only on  
the third email.


Take his perspective. He is a new guy, he tries to send emails to  
support, they don't get answered what is he supposed to think?


Ok, I see this, but isn't there an auto-responder assigning a ticket  
number to the problem? If this was received, obviously the RunRev  
servers got the message. If you'd didn't then the message was never  
logged on the system, therefore the reason it got dropped needs to be  
figured out.




Conclusion:
Don't reply to an old ticket if you want to be sure that your  
request is treated promptly


See above, if there is not a new ticket number supplied then it  
didn't get through.


Cheers
Dave


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When my relatives moved to Linux

2006-11-09 Thread Richmond Mathewson
Thank all of you for the help.

Although, I have to say that my favourite bit was the
picture comment :)

That photograph was a random kiddo I pulled off the
net - most of my pupils are aged between 6 and 10
years old and don't want a photo of the 44 year-old
goat spoiling their learning experience.

I thought the 10 statement limitation was confined to
the old Free 2.0.1 version. I built standalones on
Linux using the Free Novell Linux 2.2 version.

I haven't tried building a standalone on Mac as had no
need to.

Am I to take it that standalones - however they are
built (!!!) - have constraints placed upon them that
are not placed, for example, on stacks running with a
stack runner variant?

sincerely, Richmond Mathewson



Its time to do Philosophy and stop worrying about what dead men said.

   Mathewson 2006




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re: When my relatives moved to Linux

2006-11-09 Thread Bernard Devlin


Am I to take it that standalones - however they are
built (!!!) - have constraints placed upon them that
are not placed, for example, on stacks running with a
stack runner variant?


You can test it for yourself by just having a standalone/player  
execute this:


answer the scriptLimits


Whilst the items are all 0,0,0,0 in the IDE, they will have non-zero  
values when executed in the standalone.  I don't have any player  
here, but it is my belief that a player is just another standalone.



Bernard
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Re: Thanks to all the non-native English speakers

2006-11-09 Thread Bernard Devlin
If one looks at the frappr map, it looks like about half of the users  
might be non-native English speakers (I know the map is only the tip  
of the ice-berg - I'm not even on it myself):


http://www.frappr.com/runtimerevolution

 (to get the map to display in Firefox I find I have to go and look  
at some of the photos, then go back to the map page to get it load  
the actual map)


Since a large proportion of the most knowledgeable rev users seem to  
be non-native English speakers, it makes one wonder if the English- 
like nature of Transcript is of much benefit.  Maybe it is just the  
'natural language' like nature of Transcript that makes it appealing  
and useful :-)


I think we should also be aware of the extra difficulty in reading  
the documentation that is only in English (not that I expect runrev  
to  translate it into multiple languages).  There are times myself  
when I mis-read the nuance of something that is actually quite  
clearly documented, and in my own native tongue.


The scary thought is that sometimes I only realise after some months  
of reading comments by some users on the list, that English is not  
that person's first language.  Good programmers, and good  
linguists...  They put me to shame on both counts!


Bernard


It occured to me that credit should be given to  all those whose mother
tongue is not English for writing here. It is hard enough  to write  
in a foreign
language, but all you guys and gals have to do it in  a 'technical'  
way as well.

The time needed to transfer your thoughts into  English should not be
under-estimated, especially when 'we' take it all for  granted.

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Re: Clipboard Anomally [BUG]?

2006-11-09 Thread Jim Ault
On 11/8/06 11:47 PM, Kay C Lan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The occasional failure of the IDE to paste the contents of the clipboard.

This has been discussed before on this list, probably about a year ago.
Don't know if there is a Bugzilla or not.

Yes, the clipboardData is not 100% reliable.  I did create one solution for
AppleScript, moving text by copy in Excel, paste into BBEdit, copy, then
paste into Rev in order to bring some table data from Excel.  This produced
cleaner formatting(tabs), but still was not 100% reliable.  Without the
BBEdit step, less than 50% reliable.

My end solution was to parse the returned 'result' for the quote/comma list
format of AppleScript.  Works fine for limited needs.

If the simple Applescript return does not work for you, I would suggest you
save as a tempFile.txt to the desktop from AppleScript, then
put url (file:pathfilenameUsed.txt) into theVarYouWant
delete file pathfilenameUsed.txt

I can post the script I use to pass variables directly to Excel, then use
the returned values in Rev.  This does not involve triggering Excel VBA
macros, although you could.

Jim Ault
Las Vegas

On 11/8/06 11:47 PM, Kay C Lan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well folks with the opportunity to spend all yesterday scripting, what
 did I do. I went bug hunting. I've never submitted a bug into Bugzilla
 but I felt it was time I stepped up and gave it a shot so I went after
 the 'IDE anomaly' that irks me most.
 
 The occasional failure of the IDE to paste the contents of the clipboard.
 
 Here is my recipe. Sorry this is Mac specific as it uses Automator - I
 guess there is some Windows equivalent of Automator which might
 produce a similar result.
 
 Basically when you run this script nothing ends up in field Text,
 nothing in the msg box, but if you select any other application that
 handles text and select 'Paste' or the keyboard shortcut, the contents
 of your file will be pasted. Going back to Rev and using either the
 keyboard or the menu will NOT paste anything into field Text.
 
 TextEdit Test
 Step 1: Start TextEdit, create a new document and enter some text.
 From the 'Format' menu select Make Plain Text and save to your
 desktop with a useful name like 'Input.txt' I left the Encoding as
 'Western (Mac OS Roman)'
 
 Step 2: If you are familiar with Automator:
 i) Finder action to Ask For Finder Items
 ii) Finder action to Open Finder Item Open with TextEdit
 iii) TextEdit action to Get Contents of TextEdit Document
 iv) System action to Copy to Clipboard
 v) TextEdit action to New Text File Save as Output.txt to 'Desktop'
 
 
 If you are not familiar with Automator:
 a) Select 'New' from the 'File' menu.
 b) Choose 'Finder' in Library column, Applications folder.
 c) Select from the 'Action' Column: Ask for Finder Items
 The defaults should be: Type: Files, Start at: Desktop, Allow Multiple: No
 d) Select from the 'Action' Column: Open Finder Items
 Change Open with: from the Default Application to TextEdit
 e) Choose 'TextEdit' in the Library column
 f) Drag Get Contents of TextEdit Document from the Action column to
 the Automator window.
 g) Drag Copy to Clipboard from the Action column to the Automator window.
 h) Choose 'TextEdit' from the Library column.
 i) Drag New Text File from the Action column to the Automator window.
 Set 'Save as' to Output.txt and 'Where' to Desktop
 
 
 Step 3: Save as... Text to CB TextEdit as an application. The name
 must be the same as used in the Rev script.
 
 Step 4: Click the Automator 'Run' button to confirm that it operates
 as expected (delete the Output.txt file created on your desktop)
 
 Step 5: In Rev create a new stack with one button Start and one field Text
 Step 6: In the button place the following script:
 
 Be careful of line breaks, line numbers are commented at the end.
 
 on mouseUP  --1
 set the clipboardData[text] to empty  --2
 do tell application  quote  Text to CB TextEdit  quote 
 return  run  return  end tell  return  tell application 
 quote  Revolution  quote  return  activate  return  end
 tell as AppleScript  --3
 --do tell application  quote  Text to CB BBEdit  quote 
 return  run  return  end tell  return  tell application 
 quote  Revolution  quote  return  activate  return  end
 tell as AppleScript  --4
 wait 10 seconds  --gives Automator time to do it's thing  --5
 select text of field Text  --6
 paste  --7
 --the breakpoint is here so that you can use the Variable Watcher
 to see that tMyStore initially contains empty then it is empty.  --8
 breakpoint  --9
 put the clipboard into tMyStore  --10
 put the clipboardData[Text] into tMyStore  --11
 put tMyStore into msg  --12
 end mouseUp  --13
 
 You'll notice in the script above a 'do' statement at line 4 which has
 been commented out. Because TextEdit isn't the most powerful text
 editor around I thought I'd give it another go using BBEdit, and one
 further step, converting the file contents to ASCII. I imagine this
 might be 

Re: Rev CGI, Linux, MySQL, invalid database type

2006-11-09 Thread Dave Cragg

Thanks Viktoras, Chris

It seems I had the wrong Linux engine and driver combination. I re- 
uploaded the CGI engine for Rev 2.5 and the driver from the Rev 2.5  
regular package and it runs now.



On 9 Nov 2006, at 16:24, Viktoras Didziulis wrote:

try executing in mySQL admin before connecting to the database:
SET PASSWORD FOR 'user'@'host'=OLD_PASSWORD('password');


I think this issue only affects versions of MySQL 4.1 and later.  
That's when the new password formats were introduced.


Sorry to bother you.

Cheers
Dave


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Re: When my relatives moved to Linux

2006-11-09 Thread Robert Brenstein

Am I to take it that standalones - however they are
built (!!!) - have constraints placed upon them that
are not placed, for example, on stacks running with a
stack runner variant?

sincerely, Richmond Mathewson



Yes, any standalone including running under player or stackrunner.
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Group margin

2006-11-09 Thread Peter T. Evensen
Is there a way to adjust the group?  I have some grouped controls and I 
made the width of the group smaller than the width of the items and added a 
horizontal scroll bar.  The problem is that there is a several pixels 
margin on the left and right, so that the scroll bar is wider than it needs 
to be and when I scroll all the way to the left, the objects are several 
pixels too far to the right.


I tried adjusting the leftmargin, but that doesn't seem to have any 
effect.  I set it to 0, and I still have the blank space on the 
left.  Although if I set the leftmargin to -4 then it has no space on the left.


I guess I found a work-around.  But is this the way groups are supposed to 
work?  I did another test with just some boxes (no check boxes) and setting 
leftmargin to 0 accomplished the same thing.  I'm just wondering why I need 
0 in one case and -4 in another.


Thanks!

Peter T. Evensen
http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com
314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 



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Re: Clipboard Anomally [BUG]?

2006-11-09 Thread Kay C Lan

On 11/9/06, Chipp Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Isn't there a simpler recipe...like open up BBEdit, select text, copy, then
paste into fld text?


Yes, that works perfectly well, and I've long since discovered my own
workarounds, but I guess I failed to express my point clearly. Not the
first time:-)


Frankly, I'm not sure I even understand where the bug lies, the failure to
copy the text by Rev, or the failure of Automator to put the text on the
clipboard in a timely matter?


The 'possible' bug is that the keyboard shortcut for pasting text in
Rev occasionally doesn't work. I experience this several times a Rev
session BUT can not reproduce it reliably. I know that others on the
list have experienced the same anomaly. Jim, in his solution mentions
a 'not 100% reliable', which again means hard to actually pin down,
even harder to troubleshoot.

Through other scripting I've been doing I came across this situation
where Automator puts text into the clipboard and EVERY other
application can paste that text EXCEPT Rev. This happens, for me
anyway, EVERY TIME. Yes, it could be a problem with TextEdit, BBEdit
or Automator. But I feel that if others were to try this and got a
100% FAILURE, then that will help Rev quickly locate if the problem is
with Rev or one of the other Apps. If it is with Rev I fell that this
might go a long way in solving the random failure of Rev to paste the
clipboard.

Yes I do applogise, my recipe does look as though it is long and
tedious to work through, but actually, if you've done any work with
Automator, the whole process of creating a small text file, the
Autmator app and the Rev Stack should not be more than 10min.

Thanks to those who can spare the time:-)
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Re: Clipboard Anomally [BUG]?

2006-11-09 Thread Kay C Lan

On 11/9/06, Chipp Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Isn't there a simpler recipe...like open up BBEdit, select text, copy, then
paste into fld text?


Sorry, I didn't even make that clear:-(

As a recipe for showing the bug, no, what you propose does not do it.
Or doesn't do it frequently. I do have a firm belief that the
'trigger' for the bug is switching between apps. I typically have
several apps open and copy and paste code snippets from them. This
includes Preview and/or Acrobat, BBEdit and CopyPaste. But it's never
predictable.

As a recipe for getting BBEdit text into a Rev field, what you suggest
works 99.9% of the time, and I acknowledge that my process isn't a
logical way to get a text file into Rev, but I'm more focused on a
100% repeatable situation where the clipboard contains text, but Rev
won't paste it.

Now I hope I've expressed myself clearly:-)
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Unselect

2006-11-09 Thread Hershel Fisch
Hi all,
How do I unselect a hilitedLine in a list fld (lock text = true focusable=
false) ?
TIA Hershel

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Re: Unselect

2006-11-09 Thread Sarah Reichelt

On 11/10/06, Hershel Fisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi all,
How do I unselect a hilitedLine in a list fld (lock text = true focusable=
false) ?


set the hilitedLines of fld Whatever to empty

HTH,
Sarah
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Re: Clipboard Anomally [BUG]?

2006-11-09 Thread J. Landman Gay

Kay C Lan wrote:

On 11/9/06, Chipp Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Isn't there a simpler recipe...like open up BBEdit, select text, copy, 
then

paste into fld text?


Sorry, I didn't even make that clear:-(

As a recipe for showing the bug, no, what you propose does not do it.
Or doesn't do it frequently. I do have a firm belief that the
'trigger' for the bug is switching between apps. I typically have
several apps open and copy and paste code snippets from them. This
includes Preview and/or Acrobat, BBEdit and CopyPaste. But it's never
predictable.

As a recipe for getting BBEdit text into a Rev field, what you suggest
works 99.9% of the time, and I acknowledge that my process isn't a
logical way to get a text file into Rev, but I'm more focused on a
100% repeatable situation where the clipboard contains text, but Rev
won't paste it.

Now I hope I've expressed myself clearly:-)


Do you have an openfield script in the field that won't accept a paste? 
Someone recently notified me of a problem with that, but I haven't had 
time to verify it yet. I don't think all openfield scripts cause a 
problem, but some particular ones might. Maybe we can narrow it down.


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Re: Group margin

2006-11-09 Thread J. Landman Gay

Peter T. Evensen wrote:
Is there a way to adjust the group?  I have some grouped controls and I 
made the width of the group smaller than the width of the items and 
added a horizontal scroll bar.  The problem is that there is a several 
pixels margin on the left and right, so that the scroll bar is wider 
than it needs to be and when I scroll all the way to the left, the 
objects are several pixels too far to the right.


I tried adjusting the leftmargin, but that doesn't seem to have any 
effect.  I set it to 0, and I still have the blank space on the left.  
Although if I set the leftmargin to -4 then it has no space on the left.


Make sure the group's boundingrect is set to empty. Then open the group 
for editing (you don't have to change anything, but you might want to 
jiggle an object or two) and then stop editing it. It sounds like the 
group's boundaries may be off, and doing this might force a reset of the 
edges. I seem to remember having this same problem a few years ago and 
that's how I fixed it.


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Re: Group margin

2006-11-09 Thread Martin Blackman

I was under the impression that groups had a 4 pixel 'moat' and there
was little one could do about it..but use of the margins property, now
thats an idea
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Re: Clipboard Anomally [BUG]?

2006-11-09 Thread Chipp Walters

Kay,

Can you paste via the menu? If so, then I imagine there is a problem with
the key shortcut, which would be an IDE bug and you could create a
frontscript plugin to override (if you really had to have this functionality
now). If you cannot paste via the menu, then perhaps you can put in the msg
box:

put the clipboarddata[text]  (I think that's the correct syntax)

and see if the data is even on the clipboard at all. If it's not on the
clipboard, then you can switch to another program (other than BBedit or
TeachText) and see if you can paste it there. If you cannot, then perhaps
there's a problem with Automator. If you can paste it there, and it never
shows in Rev, you have an engine bug.

best,

Chipp
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Re: Clipboard Anomally [BUG]?

2006-11-09 Thread J. Landman Gay

Chipp Walters wrote:

If you cannot paste via the menu, then perhaps you can put in the msg
box:

put the clipboarddata[text]  (I think that's the correct syntax)

and see if the data is even on the clipboard at all.


Speaking of clipboards, I'm having some trouble in Windows. I found that 
if I have something on the clipboard and then I do some other action in 
the OS -- like launching an application -- the clipboard gets emptied. 
For example, I had some text on the clipboard, then I launched Rev, 
opened a stack, and tried to paste and the clipboard was gone. I thought 
it was a Rev bug, but when I repeated the experiment and opened Notepad 
instead, the same thing happened. But if both apps were already running, 
then the clipboard transfered over as long as I didn't do anything else 
in between. What makes that happen, and is there a workaround?


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Re: Clipboard Anomally [BUG]?

2006-11-09 Thread Jim Ault
On 11/9/06 9:32 PM, Chipp Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Kay,
 
 Can you paste via the menu? If so, then I imagine there is a problem with
 the key shortcut, which would be an IDE bug and you could create a
 frontscript plugin to override (if you really had to have this functionality
 now). If you cannot paste via the menu, then perhaps you can put in the msg
 box: 

The keyboard shortcut not working for cut, copy, paste on Mac OSX and Rev
2.6.1 and for 2.7.2 has been discussed before (not sure about WinXP).  I
experience it every week and just start using the menu when it occurs.
Restarting Rev will fix it, but when developing, it is not worth the restart
just for this.  This is not limited to text between apps, but also copy
object, paste object, duplicate object within Rev.

From my days of programming with Excel intensively on Win and Mac, the
clipboard has many definitions (bit maps, charts, cell ranges, spinners,
etc) that I got used to clipboard data not being 'transportable' between
apps.  I just assumed that Rev was managing the clipboard in its own way and
the compatibility with the system clipboard environment was not perfect.

I could be wrong and it is a bug.  My opinion is not to trust the Rev
clipboard, just like the Excel variations I found.

Jim Ault
Las Vegas


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RE: Clipboard Anomally [BUG]?

2006-11-09 Thread MisterX

on windows, you just cannot rely on menu shortcuts, anywhere... 

On Metacard they work though! Though the clipboard has it's issues too in MC
(like text between backslashed being stripped out! MC v2.5.1)

Launching new apps to paste into them certainly works (however, you will
loose your rev stack's selection for which another frontscript is needed)...

Lots of bugzillas since 2.1.2 have been posted but these features don't seem
to be tested for long because they go through every PC release unchecked...

I made a plugin 2 years ago to address this issue but it was ignored at
large as I remember - but it works great here! Trying to fix the html
problems of pasting out of rev also didn't work as I posted a week or 2 ago
- but that post too was ignored at large...

Regards,
Xavier

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Ault
 Sent: Friday, 10 November, 2006 07:26
 To: How to use Revolution
 Subject: Re: Clipboard Anomally [BUG]?
 
 On 11/9/06 9:32 PM, Chipp Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Kay,
  
  Can you paste via the menu? If so, then I imagine there is 
 a problem 
  with the key shortcut, which would be an IDE bug and you 
 could create 
  a frontscript plugin to override (if you really had to have this 
  functionality now). If you cannot paste via the menu, then 
 perhaps you 
  can put in the msg
  box: 
 
 The keyboard shortcut not working for cut, copy, paste on Mac 
 OSX and Rev
 2.6.1 and for 2.7.2 has been discussed before (not sure about 
 WinXP).  I experience it every week and just start using the 
 menu when it occurs.
 Restarting Rev will fix it, but when developing, it is not 
 worth the restart just for this.  This is not limited to text 
 between apps, but also copy object, paste object, duplicate 
 object within Rev.
 
 From my days of programming with Excel intensively on Win 
 and Mac, the
 clipboard has many definitions (bit maps, charts, cell 
 ranges, spinners,
 etc) that I got used to clipboard data not being 
 'transportable' between apps.  I just assumed that Rev was 
 managing the clipboard in its own way and the compatibility 
 with the system clipboard environment was not perfect.
 
 I could be wrong and it is a bug.  My opinion is not to trust 
 the Rev clipboard, just like the Excel variations I found.
 
 Jim Ault
 Las Vegas
 
 
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[REM] Scripter's Scrapbook half price offer

2006-11-09 Thread FlexibleLearning
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--
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Re: Clipboard Anomally [BUG]?

2006-11-09 Thread Chipp Walters

On 11/9/06, J. Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Speaking of clipboards, I'm having some trouble in Windows. I found that
if I have something on the clipboard and then I do some other action in
the OS -- like launching an application -- the clipboard gets emptied.
For example, I had some text on the clipboard, then I launched Rev,
opened a stack, and tried to paste and the clipboard was gone. I thought
it was a Rev bug, but when I repeated the experiment and opened Notepad
instead, the same thing happened. But if both apps were already running,
then the clipboard transfered over as long as I didn't do anything else
in between. What makes that happen, and is there a workaround?



Hi Jacque,
Actually, I find copy/paste clipboard issues always occur when launching
Rev. Rev seems to always start with a clear clipboard on XP. I don't have
the same problem with copy/paste text in other apps. I do have problems
copy/paste images to Photoshop on occassion, but there is a registry hack
for it.

best,
Chipp
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