Which property is the backgroundColor of a tab button?

2007-05-10 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hello,

I don't find the property to set the backgroundColor of a tab menu button
and its whole shape. If I change the backgroundColor of btn Tab Menu,
nothing changes, same with all other color properties.

The funny thing is, that the rectangle which sits below the TAB has a very
soft "white" color from the scratch, which gets darker to the bottom of the
rectangle. All patterns are also empty.

 

Thanks for any hint

Tiemo

 

 

 

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Disappearing Mouse

2007-05-10 Thread Nic Prioleau
Fellow Revers...

I am activating a combo-box by using: "click at 192,228" which DOES activate 
the combo-box but my mouse pointer disappears. Am I doing something wrong or 
could this be a bug. Hitting the escape key closes the combo-box and my mouse 
re-appears.

Regards
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Apache Server with RunRev stacks doing the processing?

2007-05-10 Thread Gil Dawson

Kee--

Are you still using acgidispatcher?  Are you using it on 10.4.9?

I just downloaded it and I'm having trouble getting it to work. 
Sentman's support page is broken and he's not answering my email, so 
I'm looking for confirmation that the problem isn't a "broken in 
Tiger" thing.


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Trying again

2007-05-10 Thread Len Morgan
For some reason, my requests for help are not only going unanswered but 
also never making it to the archive.  What's up with the mailing list?


I've got a database connection problem (still) that I'm trying to 
resolve but if no one can see the messages I'm sending, nothing is going 
to happen.


Am I doing something wrong?  How long should it be before a message to 
this list shows up in the archive?


len morgan
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Re: Trying again

2007-05-10 Thread Scott Kane
Am I doing something wrong?  How long should it be before a message to 
this list shows up in the archive?


Message recieved via the list right this moment - AU EST 10:44 PM.

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Re: Dynamic Language Runtime

2007-05-10 Thread David Bovill

Thanks for the lowdown Mark! It's a pity OSA didn't take off - I remember
having some success with coding JavaScript, AppleScript, and event tried but
failed some python I think all within Rev IDE (back when we had MetaCard),
its just that the incentives were not there for the language communities to
make them OSA compatible. It seems from what you are saying that this may
not be a problem with the DLR / .NET approach?

NB - the DLR stand for Docklands Light Railway where I come from :)
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Re: Making OS-Specific Standalones

2007-05-10 Thread Chris Sheffield

Hi Bridger,

Check out the savingStandalone message. Very useful for setting  
custom props at the time of building a standalone.


Chris


On May 9, 2007, at 6:28 PM, Bridger Maxwell wrote:


Hey,
 Is there any way to have the Windows standalone saved differently  
from the

OS X standalone?  I would like the Windows standalone to have custom
properties containing the externals to be unpacked, but because OS  
X uses
bundles this is not an issue and I don't want these custom  
properties to be
saved as part of the OS X standalone (no need to use extra  
memory).  I know
I could just build for Windows, clear the externals, and build it  
again for

OS X, but is there an easier way so I don't get mixed up?

 Thank You,
   Bridger Maxwell
   www.FieryFerret.com
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Re: contextual menu cursor image

2007-05-10 Thread Richard Gaskin

Stephen Barncard wrote:

>>If we had a message notifying us when the Control key is down
>>without another key or a mouseDown I'd probably start using it.  I
>>guess in the meantime we'd have to poll for that, no?
>>
>>Maybe Apple's onto something in blowing that off that part of their
>>own spec. ;)
>
> actually it can be done without polling, this is how I'm controlling
> the cursor, with a script in a locked field. works for my particular
> caseymmv...
...
>
> ON mouseWithin
>   cursorHandler
> END mouseWithin
...

While you're not doing the polling yourself, I believe all messages tied 
to the idleRate (mouseWithin, mouseStillDown, idle, maybe one or two 
others) are accomplished by the engine doing the polling.


The polling messages related to mouse actions (mouseWithin, 
mouseStillDown) can be especially problematic as they can't be used in 
libraries, or even card or stack scripts:  to minimize the impact of the 
engine's polling on the rest of the system, as noted in the docs those 
messages are only sent  to a control if the control has its own handler 
for them.



I just double-checked this, with a stack that has two buttons.  One 
button has this script:


on mouseWithin
  put the ticks && the target
  pass mouseWithin
end mouseWithin

The handler is also in the card script, and the second button has no 
script at all.


When mousing over the two buttons, I get the expected string in the 
Message Box only when the mouse is over the button that has its own 
mouseWithin handler, but not in the button whose script is empty.


With other non-polling messages, of course the message would pass 
through to the card and be handled there.



That said, the engine does its polling pretty efficiently, so in spite 
of whatever caveats folks might have for the mouseStillDown and 
mouseWithin messages, there's probably no noticeable penalty for using them.


But if you want to generalize the mouseWithin handling in a stack, 
library, or backScript, you'd have to replicate the mouseWithin handler 
in each control where you want that behavior triggered.



For the long term it might be helpful to add a BZ request for a message 
to be sent when the Control key is down, regardless of whether it has 
another key pressed with it.  There are tradeoffs for that, though, and 
maybe a new message is what's needed.


I have a similar request for mouseStillDown:


For checking whether the Control key is down, my hunch is that the OS X 
API already has a message available that could be tapped into, so 
tapping into that within Rev should be relatively straightforward once 
we figure out what that message should be called.  ControlKeyDown would 
seem logical enough, but it would be problematic to send it without 
another key since so many scripts currently expect the message to be 
sent only when two or more keys are pressed.


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Reference an Internal Image?

2007-05-10 Thread Scott Rossi
Am I mistaken or is there a way for an image object to reference a second
imported image?  I know one can set the icon of a button to the id of an
image, but I seem to recall being able to somehow do this with images as
well.  Using "put img 1 into img 2" and "set the text of img 2 to the text
of img 1" both appear to result in copies of img 1, not references.

Perhaps my memory is faulty...

Thanks & Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design


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Re: Reference an Internal Image?

2007-05-10 Thread Stephen Barncard

the filename??


Am I mistaken or is there a way for an image object to reference a second
imported image?  I know one can set the icon of a button to the id of an
image, but I seem to recall being able to somehow do this with images as
well.  Using "put img 1 into img 2" and "set the text of img 2 to the text
of img 1" both appear to result in copies of img 1, not references.

Perhaps my memory is faulty...

Thanks & Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design


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closeStack doesn't close Stack:(

2007-05-10 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hello again, I thought that would have been a basic, but:

on menuPick

--

send "closeStack" to this card

exit to top

--  

nothing happens! (tried it also without "send", just closeStack)

My on closeStack handler gets the message and has a pass close Stack at the
end. Probably I am missing some rev basics :(

How do I close my app correctly?

Thank you for any help

Tiemo

 

 

 

 

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Re: closeStack doesn't close Stack:(

2007-05-10 Thread Jim Sims


On May 10, 2007, at 6:03 PM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote:



   send "closeStack" to this card


The Documentation Dictionary is your friend.
In the dictionary you will find the information displayed:

Handle the closeStack message if you want to perform cleanup or do  
other tasks when the user closes a window.


A stack is closed when the user or a handler closes the stack window.

The actual closing is not triggered by the closeStack message


In the section named "See Also:", you will generally find some pretty  
good clues on where else to

look, in this case you'll find "close command" among others.

Maybe "close" will help you.




Jim Sims
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AW: closeStack doesn't close Stack:(

2007-05-10 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Sorry Jim for asking such a basic, I must have read over it at least three
times. Good thanks, it's Friday again :)
Have a nice weekend
Tiemo

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> 
> 
> On May 10, 2007, at 6:03 PM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote:
> 
> >
> >send "closeStack" to this card
> 
> The Documentation Dictionary is your friend.
> In the dictionary you will find the information displayed:
> 
> Handle the closeStack message if you want to perform cleanup or do
> other tasks when the user closes a window.
> 
> A stack is closed when the user or a handler closes the stack window.
> 
> The actual closing is not triggered by the closeStack message
> 
> 
> In the section named "See Also:", you will generally find some pretty
> good clues on where else to
> look, in this case you'll find "close command" among others.
> 
> Maybe "close" will help you.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: protecting images in standalone?

2007-05-10 Thread Howard Bornstein

On 5/9/07, Scott Rossi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



You can import images into custom properties and them display them in
image
objects:
[import]
set the myCoolImage of this cd to url ("binfile:" & imagePath)
[display]
put the myCoolImage of this cd into img 1



I'd like to do the same thing with a music file; embed it into the stack
directly. I can set a custom property to an mp3 file, but I can't figure out
how to play or reference it then. The custom property contains the actual
mp3 data, but I can't set a player to it because it wants a file name, not
the data directly. Same issue for a movie.

Once I've set a custom property to contain the music or video data, how do I
reference it? Do I then need to spin it out as a temporary file and then
reference that? Then clean up the file when I'm done?

--
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Re: protecting images in standalone?

2007-05-10 Thread Jim Sims


On May 10, 2007, at 6:37 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote:

I'd like to do the same thing with a music file; embed it into the  
stack
directly. I can set a custom property to an mp3 file, but I can't  
figure out
how to play or reference it then. The custom property contains the  
actual
mp3 data, but I can't set a player to it because it wants a file  
name, not

the data directly. Same issue for a movie.

Once I've set a custom property to contain the music or video data,  
how do I
reference it? Do I then need to spin it out as a temporary file and  
then

reference that? Then clean up the file when I'm done?


I do the same thing with video files in an application  
(www.einspine.com).

I keep them in custom properties and then turn them into temp files and
reference them by using tempName.  I also write over the video file  
after
I am done playing it with a word or two as they can be found in the  
trash,

when written over the user cannot grab them and play them.


Jim Sims
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www.EZPZapps.com


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Re: protecting images in standalone?

2007-05-10 Thread Eric Chatonet

Hi Howard,

Le 10 mai 07 à 18:37, Howard Bornstein a écrit :

I'd like to do the same thing with a music file; embed it into the  
stack
directly. I can set a custom property to an mp3 file, but I can't  
figure out
how to play or reference it then. The custom property contains the  
actual
mp3 data, but I can't set a player to it because it wants a file  
name, not

the data directly. Same issue for a movie.

Once I've set a custom property to contain the music or video data,  
how do I
reference it? Do I then need to spin it out as a temporary file and  
then

reference that? Then clean up the file when I'm done?

--
Regards,

Howard Bornstein


Sims has answered yet and this is the right answer :-)

Nevertheless, the "How to Monitor a QuickTime Player by Script"  
tutorial might help you since it demonstrates this method among others:
The stack shows you how to monitor a QT player to play music (mp3  
included) and provide all the usual commands, and more, to the user.
How to know if the right version of QT is installed, manage  
durations, progress, quick searches, sound level, loops, play-lists,  
etc.
The main commands are embedded in a scripted group, which you can  
export into any project. This scripted group is able to monitor, not  
only sound files, but also the video files as well.

Print function included.

You will access this tutorial through "Tutorials Picker" a free  
plugin that interfaces with the So Smart Software website in order to  
display all available tutorials stacks directly from the web.

You will find it by going to http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/.
Revolution/Plugins or Tutorials section.

Best regards from Paris,
Eric Chatonet.

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Re: protecting images in standalone?

2007-05-10 Thread Howard Bornstein

Thanks Jim and Eric,

I suspected that was the only way. It'd be nice to be able to reference
these sources directly in the stack but making a temp file isn't too bad.
Just some extra overhead. Oh well. :-)

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AW: protecting images in standalone?

2007-05-10 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Jim, that sounds great, but doesn't the performance suffer badly, when
including 180MB of videos into you stack, even if it is one or more
substacks, when opening and accessing the stack? What do you think where is
the limit with doing like that? I will create an app with about 6GB of video
material, splitted into 18.000 clips :) 
Tiemo


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> An: How to use Revolution
> Betreff: Re: protecting images in standalone?
> 
> 
> On May 10, 2007, at 6:37 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote:
> 
> > I'd like to do the same thing with a music file; embed it into the
> > stack
> > directly. I can set a custom property to an mp3 file, but I can't
> > figure out
> > how to play or reference it then. The custom property contains the
> > actual
> > mp3 data, but I can't set a player to it because it wants a file
> > name, not
> > the data directly. Same issue for a movie.
> >
> > Once I've set a custom property to contain the music or video data,
> > how do I
> > reference it? Do I then need to spin it out as a temporary file and
> > then
> > reference that? Then clean up the file when I'm done?
> 
> I do the same thing with video files in an application
> (www.einspine.com).
> I keep them in custom properties and then turn them into temp files and
> reference them by using tempName.  I also write over the video file
> after
> I am done playing it with a word or two as they can be found in the
> trash,
> when written over the user cannot grab them and play them.
> 
> 
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> www.EZPZapps.com
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Re: AW: protecting images in standalone?

2007-05-10 Thread Richard Gaskin

Tiemo wrote:

Jim, that sounds great, but doesn't the performance suffer badly, when
including 180MB of videos into you stack, even if it is one or more
substacks, when opening and accessing the stack? What do you think where is
the limit with doing like that? I will create an app with about 6GB of video
material, splitted into 18.000 clips :) 


I think you've brought up an important consideration, Tiemo.  When Rev 
loads a stack file, it reads the entire stack file into memory, and 
custom properties come along for the ride.


On modern systems, a couple megs of images probably won't matter, but 
embedding a 6GB video would almost certainly exceed available RAM, and 
on some systems may even exceed swap space.


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Re: strange blending ink problem

2007-05-10 Thread Mark Talluto


On May 9, 2007, at 11:32 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote:

What does "somehow altered" mean? Does the value of the ink  
property change, or is only the visual appearance different? I seem  
to be experiencing a problem that makes the same inks behave  
differently on Mac OS X and Windows.



Hi Mark,

Unfortunately, I don't know the specifics of the change.  I just know  
that I needed images with white space to be transparent over multi  
colored backgrounds.  I was using srcAnd for Win and srcOr for Macs  
to get most of what I wanted.  After the bug report I am now able to  
use srcAnd for both platforms and am getting the transparency effect  
I requested.



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AW: AW: protecting images in standalone?

2007-05-10 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Yes I know, that's why I am asking. I would think that even a 180MB stack (
I assume this size, because his app setup is about 180MB) of Jim would be
very uncomfortable, but he seems to be happy with it?
Tiemo

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> Betreff: Re: AW: protecting images in standalone?
> 
> Tiemo wrote:
> > Jim, that sounds great, but doesn't the performance suffer badly, when
> > including 180MB of videos into you stack, even if it is one or more
> > substacks, when opening and accessing the stack? What do you think where
> is
> > the limit with doing like that? I will create an app with about 6GB of
> video
> > material, splitted into 18.000 clips :)
> 
> I think you've brought up an important consideration, Tiemo.  When Rev
> loads a stack file, it reads the entire stack file into memory, and
> custom properties come along for the ride.
> 
> On modern systems, a couple megs of images probably won't matter, but
> embedding a 6GB video would almost certainly exceed available RAM, and
> on some systems may even exceed swap space.
> 
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Re: Apache Server with RunRev stacks doing the processing?

2007-05-10 Thread kee nethery


On May 6, 2007, at 8:00 AM, Gil Dawson wrote:


Kee--

Are you still using acgidispatcher?


yes but I'm using an old version and I'm only using it on one  
Hypercard stack that responds to WebStar style AppleScript  
communications.

Are you using it on 10.4.9? yes.



I just downloaded it and I'm having trouble getting it to work.  
Sentman's support page is broken and he's not answering my email,  
so I'm looking for confirmation that the problem isn't a "broken in  
Tiger" thing.


I think it is a it is broken thing. We had to use an old version  
because the latest version didn't work for us.


My suggestion is to use Andre's RevHTTP stack and have that be the  
web server on a different port, bypass Apache. That works flawlessly  
and is a much longer term solution. We are moving away from  
acgidispatcher.


Kee


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Re: AW: AW: protecting images in standalone?

2007-05-10 Thread Jim Sims


On May 10, 2007, at 8:21 PM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote:

Yes I know, that's why I am asking. I would think that even a 180MB  
stack (
I assume this size, because his app setup is about 180MB) of Jim  
would be

very uncomfortable, but he seems to be happy with it?


The videos are in user properties in individual files that get read -  
played

and then dumped. None of the videos is over 35 seconds in length.


ciao,
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AW: AW: AW: protecting images in standalone?

2007-05-10 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Clever, that makes sense!
Have a nice sunset in Malta!
Tiemo

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> 
> 
> On May 10, 2007, at 8:21 PM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote:
> 
> > Yes I know, that's why I am asking. I would think that even a 180MB
> > stack (
> > I assume this size, because his app setup is about 180MB) of Jim
> > would be
> > very uncomfortable, but he seems to be happy with it?
> 
> The videos are in user properties in individual files that get read -
> played
> and then dumped. None of the videos is over 35 seconds in length.
> 
> 
> ciao,
> sims
> 
> 
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performance of RevXML

2007-05-10 Thread Klaus Major

Hi friends,

does anyone have some experience/hints with/for the performance of  
RevXML with big XML files?
I mean when (size in MB) can on reach the limit of the handling of  
xml files.


Are 20 MB (or even bigger) files a problem?
Should one try to split the data into smaller files?

In our latest project we want to avoid using a "real" database engine.
Any hints are very welcome!

Thanks in advance.


Best

Klaus Major
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http://www.major-k.de

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Re: protecting images in standalone?

2007-05-10 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Howard Bornstein wrote:

> Once I've set a custom property to contain the music or video data, how do I
> reference it? Do I then need to spin it out as a temporary file and then
> reference that? Then clean up the file when I'm done?

As far as I know, this is the usual method.

However, Trevor Devore once explained that it is possible import a video
file as a videoClip and play it directly on the card.  You can position the
the movie by declaring a point location, and once playback is done the
videoClip is closed.
 play videoClip 1 at loc of grc 1

The docs say a videoClip can be QuickTime, AVI or MPEG formats.  And the
syntax for controlling a videoClip is a little wonky.
 play pause videoClip "myCoolClip.mov"

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design


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Re: protecting images in standalone?

2007-05-10 Thread Klaus Major

Hi Scott and all,


Am 10.05.2007 um 20:51 schrieb Scott Rossi:


Recently, Howard Bornstein wrote:

Once I've set a custom property to contain the music or video  
data, how do I
reference it? Do I then need to spin it out as a temporary file  
and then

reference that? Then clean up the file when I'm done?


As far as I know, this is the usual method.

However, Trevor Devore once explained that it is possible import a  
video
file as a videoClip and play it directly on the card.  You can  
position the

the movie by declaring a point location, and once playback is done the
videoClip is closed.
 play videoClip 1 at loc of grc 1

The docs say a videoClip can be QuickTime, AVI or MPEG formats.


Important hint:
You can only play QT videoclips on the Mac!
And with AVI files are restricted to the good ol' "Cinepak" codec!
If they did not change this in the engine sicne the MC days, which is  
very unlikely.


Similar restrictions apply for audiclips.

Still waiting for an overhaul of the multimedia engine, right Scott? ;-)


And the syntax for controlling a videoClip is a little wonky.
 play pause videoClip "myCoolClip.mov"

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design


Regards

Klaus Major
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.major-k.de

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Re: protecting images in standalone?

2007-05-10 Thread Howard Bornstein

On 5/10/07, Scott Rossi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


As far as I know, this is the usual method.

However, Trevor Devore once explained that it is possible import a video
file as a videoClip and play it directly on the card.  You can position
the
the movie by declaring a point location, and once playback is done the
videoClip is closed.
play videoClip 1 at loc of grc 1

The docs say a videoClip can be QuickTime, AVI or MPEG formats.  And the
syntax for controlling a videoClip is a little wonky.
play pause videoClip "myCoolClip.mov"



Thanks Scott,

I think I'll stick to the more modern player object. It's only a couple of
extra lines of code to write the file and it works fine!

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Regards,

Howard Bornstein
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[ANN] Revolution StandardLib 1.0b1 Posted

2007-05-10 Thread Ken Ray
Hello everyone! 

This message is to announce that the RevInterop group 
(http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/revInterop/) have been working on a 
"Standard Library" for Revolution and a beta version of the library is 
now available. This library, called "stdLib.rev" contains a variety of 
useful functions
and commands that the initial working group felt
were very useful for anyone programming in Revolution. However the main 
issue is not the actual code, but whether the first pass at the library 
has a good "core" set of handlers and functions for developers to use.

The full list of functions/commands, along with a place for providing
your feedback is at the following Wiki page on the Sons of Thunder web
site:

http://www.sonsothunder.com/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=Main.RevolutionStdLib

If you are interested in reviewing the handlers in this library, please 
go to the Wiki and add your comments. Just a note of caution, though: 
I'm sure many of you will see what you might
consider "glaring omissions" or are wondering just why certain handlers
were included. Please keep in mind that (a) this is a first public pass
at the library, and (b) we don't want to load the library up with a lot
of useful, although esoteric, handlers. Of course, that is up to this
group to work through, so please provide whatever feedback you feel is
appropriate.

The end result of this effort will (hopefully) be a common library of 
handlers that
both experienced developers and newcomers can start to use in their
development efforts; it may also help RunRev answer the question about
why there isn't a standard library for Revolution like there is in other
languages... :-)

(If you want to get a copy of the beta of the Standard Library, you can 
join RevInterop and download it from the Files area. Don't worry - when 
the first version of "stdLib.rev" is released, we'll make it publicly 
accessible so you don't need to join RevInterop to get it. This isn't 
meant to solicit new users to RevInterop... ;-)

In any event, enjoy this first effort, and I'm looking forward to your
feedback!

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/
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Re: performance of RevXML

2007-05-10 Thread Bill Marriott
Klaus,

> does anyone have some experience/hints with/for the performance of  RevXML 
> with big XML files? [...] we want to avoid using a "real" database engine.

Your biggest issue with "big" anything is memory usage, because the source 
table and any transformations you do with it are stored in RAM. As your data 
gets larger and larger, you run the risk of slowing down considerably or 
even running out of it. Not everyone has a gigabyte or more to play with.

The advantage of using a "real" database engine, like SQLite integrated with 
Rev 2.8.1, is that you'll be able to manipulate large tables with 
high-performance SQL commands, keeping your memory footprint down to just 
what is needed for on-screen display.

- Bill 



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Re: protecting images in standalone?

2007-05-10 Thread Howard Bornstein

On 5/10/07, Jim Sims <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 I also write over the video file after I am done playing it with a word
or two as they can be found in the trash, when written over the user cannot
grab them and play them.




Hmm, I used Delete File to get rid of the temp file but it deletes it
directly rather than moving it to the trash. What are you using?

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RE: protecting images in standalone?

2007-05-10 Thread Robert Mann
 Sounds Like I should try and put the pictures into customproperties I
created a customproperty for the stack 
ctgfork1 
now how to I put the picture into it, if I open the property inspector I
only can add text to it? I have looked at the manual for customproperties it
shows some code to add the picture to the property but can not get it to
work
tried this

set the itemdelimiter to slash
put the effective filename of this stack into dbPath
delete the last item of dbPath
put "/ctgfork01.PNG" after dbPath   # 
set the ctgfork1 of stack "specs" to URL "binfile:dbPath"

did not work?

Thanks
Rob


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard
Bornstein
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 3:24 PM
To: How to use Revolution
Subject: Re: protecting images in standalone?

On 5/10/07, Scott Rossi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> As far as I know, this is the usual method.
>
> However, Trevor Devore once explained that it is possible import a video
> file as a videoClip and play it directly on the card.  You can position
> the
> the movie by declaring a point location, and once playback is done the
> videoClip is closed.
> play videoClip 1 at loc of grc 1
>
> The docs say a videoClip can be QuickTime, AVI or MPEG formats.  And the
> syntax for controlling a videoClip is a little wonky.
> play pause videoClip "myCoolClip.mov"
>

Thanks Scott,

I think I'll stick to the more modern player object. It's only a couple of
extra lines of code to write the file and it works fine!

-- 
Regards,

Howard Bornstein
---
www.designeq.com
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Re: protecting images in standalone?

2007-05-10 Thread Jim Sims


On May 11, 2007, at 4:18 AM, Howard Bornstein wrote:


Hmm, I used Delete File to get rid of the temp file but it deletes it
directly rather than moving it to the trash. What are you using?


There was some event where in the trash a folder named 'recovered files'
(or something like that) was found, inside that folder was a few of the
reconstituted .mov files that could be taken out of the trash and then
played with the QT player. I had been using 'delete file', but even so,
when this event happened I included a step where I put "bob" into url
the temp file. When adding that the file shrunk to 4k and only had
"bob" in it if such an event happened again.


Jim Sims
Custom Software Development
www.EZPZapps.com


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