Re: Getting vScroll movement of a field scrollbar
On Dec 11, 2007 11:12 AM, James Hurley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 11, 2007 7:05 AM, James Hurley jhurley0305 at Good thought, but it doesn't work unless the mouse leaves and reenters the field. Yes, but that shouldn't be a problem. I figured you'd do something like this: on scrollbarDrag tNewPosition --do fancy stuff put tNewPosition into tStart end scrollDrag That way, tStart is always being updated with the last position of the drag. There are probably other times you want to initialize tStart, like on openCard or openStack handlers, but as a last resort, the most up to date would be an 'one mouseEnter' handler. Once inside the field the 'on scrollbarDrag' message should keep track of every movement so all you need to do is update tStart after every move. HTH ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Getting vScroll movement of a field scrollbar
Hello, Could be I am wrong (I don’t know what’s your aim with your buttons), but one solution could be to replace your buttons with images and use the imageSource of characters: - choose (if possible) a character that is impossible to appear in your field (e.g., $, €, £, %, …). - set the textStyle of this character to link - past an image in your stack and - set the imageSource of the char to the ID number of this image. If the field has its lockText property set to true, then the image is clickable. Then, in the field script, you can have a handler of the following type : ON mouseUp IF the textstyle of the clicktext is « link » THEN - - the handler of your current button END IF END mouseUp Just an idea, don’t know if that could help Best regards from Grenoble André Le 11 déc. 07 à 00:05, James Hurley a écrit : I have a field with button superimposed on the text. I would like the buttons to scroll with the field. I set the field script to: local tStart on mouseDown put the vScroll of me into tStart end mouseDown on scrollbarDrag newValue put tStart comma newValue into msg box end scrollbarDrag The idea was to get the vertical movement of the scrollbar and move the buttons accordingly. But the field's scrollbar does not appear to get the mouseDown message and so I don't get the tStart variable How do I get the initial position of the scrollbar? Jim Hurley ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Menubar on Windows???
Hi Ian, Thanks for the help, I realize I have to set the MenuBar property for Mac but are you saying that I should set it *only* for Mac? If so, how does it know which MenuBar to display under windows? I have the MenuBar in a separate stack and do something like this at present: set the menubar of this stack to myMenuBarGroupLongName Where myMenuBarGroupLongName is set to a Stack other than this stack. Thanks a lot All the Best Dave On 10 Dec 2007, at 15:54, Ian Wood wrote: If you look at the docs for 'menubar' you'll see that it is a Mac- specific property. This is because the menubar is the bar appearing at the top of the screen (not the top of each window), which doesn't exist on Windows or Linux. If the stack's menubar property isn't set to the group it should be visible at the top of the window, normal for Windows. Ian On 10 Dec 2007, at 15:37, Dave wrote: Hi All, I'm trying to get the Menubar to work on Windows, it works fine on Mac OS X. In the preOpenStack hander I execute: set the menubar of this stack to myMenuBarGroupLongName Which Displays the Menu Bar on Mac and I expected it to display the Menubar in the stack that is being executed in windows, but instead nothing seems to happen, e.g. the Window is the same as before the set the menubar code was executed. So how do I get the menubar displayed under Windows??? Thanks a lot All the Best Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Menubar on Windows???
On 11 Dec 2007, at 13:29, Dave wrote: Thanks for the help, I realize I have to set the MenuBar property for Mac but are you saying that I should set it *only* for Mac? If so, how does it know which MenuBar to display under windows? It should have no effect at all on Windows. I have the MenuBar in a separate stack and do something like this at present: set the menubar of this stack to myMenuBarGroupLongName Where myMenuBarGroupLongName is set to a Stack other than this stack. OK, I think that's the problem. Windows programmers will have to chip in here, but I think the menu group for a stack has to exist on that stack. Ian ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Menubar on Windows???
Hi One has to consider that windows menu are in-window just like any other group of objects. While mac menus are not... I dont know how Rev handles mac menus, but once the menu group on windows is set, there's no more to it... When a PC made stack is run on OSX, does the menu work correctly? Regards, -=- Xavier Bury Clearstream Services TNS NT LAN Server ext 36465 Voice: +352 243 3 6465 Fax: +352 243 63 6465 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/12/2007 15:00:03: On 11 Dec 2007, at 13:29, Dave wrote: Thanks for the help, I realize I have to set the MenuBar property for Mac but are you saying that I should set it *only* for Mac? If so, how does it know which MenuBar to display under windows? It should have no effect at all on Windows. I have the MenuBar in a separate stack and do something like this at present: set the menubar of this stack to myMenuBarGroupLongName Where myMenuBarGroupLongName is set to a Stack other than this stack. OK, I think that's the problem. Windows programmers will have to chip in here, but I think the menu group for a stack has to exist on that stack. Ian ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Clearstream Services S.A. 42 Avenue JF Kennedy, L-1855 Luxembourg Société anonyme is organised with limited liability in the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg R.C.S. Luxembourg B 60911. - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. Legally required information for business correspondence/ Gesetzliche Pflichtangaben fuer Geschaeftskorrespondenz: http://deutsche-boerse.com/letterhead END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Getting vScroll movement of a field scrollbar
Hi Jim, May be I don't understand the problem ;-) But: I created a scrolling field, added a button overlaying the field and grouped both with group margins = zero. Then I locked the group: this makes the button disappear appropriately. In the script of the field: on scrollbardrag pPos set the top of btn Test to value - pPos end scrollbardrag value is the top of the button when field's vScroll = zero. In the script of the card: on preOpenCard send scrollbardrag the vScroll of fld ScrollingField to fld ScrollingField end preOpenCard Actually this works for me in any case and I don't mind any initial position :-) What did I miss? Le 11 déc. 07 à 00:05, James Hurley a écrit : I have a field with button superimposed on the text. I would like the buttons to scroll with the field. I set the field script to: local tStart on mouseDown put the vScroll of me into tStart end mouseDown on scrollbarDrag newValue put tStart comma newValue into msg box end scrollbarDrag The idea was to get the vertical movement of the scrollbar and move the buttons accordingly. But the field's scrollbar does not appear to get the mouseDown message and so I don't get the tStart variable How do I get the initial position of the scrollbar? Jim Hurley Best regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. Plugins and tutorials for Revolution: http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Menubar on Windows???
On 11 Dec 2007, at 14:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi One has to consider that windows menu are in-window just like any other group of objects. While mac menus are not... I dont know how Rev handles mac menus, but once the menu group on windows is set, there's no more to it... This is what I don't understand. How to I set the menu group on Windows? I can (and have set it and it works ok on Mac). I have a Menubar group in a stack called MenuBar how can I use this menubar group as the menu bar for the current stack under Windows? Thanks a lot All the Best Dave When a PC made stack is run on OSX, does the menu work correctly? Regards, -=- Xavier Bury Clearstream Services TNS NT LAN Server ext 36465 Voice: +352 243 3 6465 Fax: +352 243 63 6465 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/12/2007 15:00:03: On 11 Dec 2007, at 13:29, Dave wrote: Thanks for the help, I realize I have to set the MenuBar property for Mac but are you saying that I should set it *only* for Mac? If so, how does it know which MenuBar to display under windows? It should have no effect at all on Windows. I have the MenuBar in a separate stack and do something like this at present: set the menubar of this stack to myMenuBarGroupLongName Where myMenuBarGroupLongName is set to a Stack other than this stack. OK, I think that's the problem. Windows programmers will have to chip in here, but I think the menu group for a stack has to exist on that stack. Ian ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- -- Clearstream Services S.A. 42 Avenue JF Kennedy, L-1855 Luxembourg Société anonyme is organised with limited liability in the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg R.C.S. Luxembourg B 60911. - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. Legally required information for business correspondence/ Gesetzliche Pflichtangaben fuer Geschaeftskorrespondenz: http://deutsche-boerse.com/letterhead END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Menubar on Windows???
Not sure of the syntax but either you say set the menubar [of this stack] to whatevergroupname or go to the menu builder and set it there via the edit button... Although i think there is or was a bug that made it forget which was the menugroup... I never had the issue as the window's menu is pretty much anything you want and i dont port my stacks to osx... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/12/2007 16:17:27: On 11 Dec 2007, at 14:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi One has to consider that windows menu are in-window just like any other group of objects. While mac menus are not... I dont know how Rev handles mac menus, but once the menu group on windows is set, there's no more to it... This is what I don't understand. How to I set the menu group on Windows? I can (and have set it and it works ok on Mac). I have a Menubar group in a stack called MenuBar how can I use this menubar group as the menu bar for the current stack under Windows? Thanks a lot All the Best Dave When a PC made stack is run on OSX, does the menu work correctly? Regards, -=- Xavier Bury Clearstream Services TNS NT LAN Server ext 36465 Voice: +352 243 3 6465 Fax: +352 243 63 6465 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/12/2007 15:00:03: On 11 Dec 2007, at 13:29, Dave wrote: Thanks for the help, I realize I have to set the MenuBar property for Mac but are you saying that I should set it *only* for Mac? If so, how does it know which MenuBar to display under windows? It should have no effect at all on Windows. I have the MenuBar in a separate stack and do something like this at present: set the menubar of this stack to myMenuBarGroupLongName Where myMenuBarGroupLongName is set to a Stack other than this stack. OK, I think that's the problem. Windows programmers will have to chip in here, but I think the menu group for a stack has to exist on that stack. Ian ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- -- Clearstream Services S.A. 42 Avenue JF Kennedy, L-1855 Luxembourg Société anonyme is organised with limited liability in the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg R.C.S. Luxembourg B 60911. - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. Legally required information for business correspondence/ Gesetzliche Pflichtangaben fuer Geschaeftskorrespondenz: http://deutsche-boerse.com/letterhead END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Clearstream Services S.A. 42 Avenue JF Kennedy, L-1855 Luxembourg Société anonyme is organised with limited liability in the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg R.C.S. Luxembourg B 60911. - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be
Re: Menubar on Windows???
Dave wrote: This is what I don't understand. How to I set the menu group on Windows? I can (and have set it and it works ok on Mac). I have a Menubar group in a stack called MenuBar how can I use this menubar group as the menu bar for the current stack under Windows? From the Rev Dictionary entry for menubar: On Mac OS systems, when a stack's menubar property is set, the stack is scrolled and resized on Mac OS systems so that the group is not visible in the stack window. (On Unix and Windows systems, this is not necessary, since the menu bar is normally displayed in the window.) On Windows (and pretty every other OS but Mac), the convention is the have menus at the top of the window. Only Mac detaches them to have a separate menu bar at the top of the monitor. To facilitate this, the menuBar property of a stack defines a group in a stack which will be automatically scrolled out of view when run on OS X, but will appear in place on all other systems. While contrary to convention, it's possible to have a menu bar on Windows which is separate from the stack. In fact, Rev does this, and one of the products we develop here does also (though we're in the process of redesigning it to adhere to convention in the next version). To have a separate menu bar on Windows just build the menu group in a separate stack and open it as palette so that it doesn't get covered by the other windows in your application. If your other windows are resizable you can also adjust the windowBoundingRect property to account for your menubar stack, so zooming won't submarine the top of the document below the menu stack. -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Menubar on Windows???
Hi Richard, While the idea of a floating menubar is really nice (and so NeXT like!), it does pose a few problems on windows: - win32 task bar object - rev here is a nightmare - click on one and the menubar still stays behind/hidden for example... - If you hide the application, dont forget to hide the menu - but maybe that's not wanted but maybe yes other times - submarining the menu as you mentioned - but sometimes it is the other way around. And there's a bug in RR where the palettes are submarined by the normal stacks (fixed in 2.9?) - it's not standard and most windows users hate separate menus (as far as i've heard and seen them moan) - a separate menu steals more desktop real-estate than an included menu There's reasons why it could be cool but when you are used to menus being always on top of the window, you dont have to look for them. The same goes for a Mac user who sees their window while the menu of another application (which is active with no [overlapping] windows) is visible... just my two revcents... -=- Xavier Bury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/12/2007 16:36:57: Dave wrote: This is what I don't understand. How to I set the menu group on Windows? I can (and have set it and it works ok on Mac). I have a Menubar group in a stack called MenuBar how can I use this menubar group as the menu bar for the current stack under Windows? From the Rev Dictionary entry for menubar: On Mac OS systems, when a stack's menubar property is set, the stack is scrolled and resized on Mac OS systems so that the group is not visible in the stack window. (On Unix and Windows systems, this is not necessary, since the menu bar is normally displayed in the window.) On Windows (and pretty every other OS but Mac), the convention is the have menus at the top of the window. Only Mac detaches them to have a separate menu bar at the top of the monitor. To facilitate this, the menuBar property of a stack defines a group in a stack which will be automatically scrolled out of view when run on OS X, but will appear in place on all other systems. While contrary to convention, it's possible to have a menu bar on Windows which is separate from the stack. In fact, Rev does this, and one of the products we develop here does also (though we're in the process of redesigning it to adhere to convention in the next version). To have a separate menu bar on Windows just build the menu group in a separate stack and open it as palette so that it doesn't get covered by the other windows in your application. If your other windows are resizable you can also adjust the windowBoundingRect property to account for your menubar stack, so zooming won't submarine the top of the document below the menu stack. -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Clearstream Services S.A. 42 Avenue JF Kennedy, L-1855 Luxembourg Société anonyme is organised with limited liability in the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg R.C.S. Luxembourg B 60911. - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. Legally required information for business correspondence/ Gesetzliche Pflichtangaben fuer Geschaeftskorrespondenz: http://deutsche-boerse.com/letterhead END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Menubar on Windows???
Hi Xaxier, I do agree. When I came to Windows (without leaving the Mac: I work with since more than twenty years), I did not like the menus 'in' the windows. Question of habit ;-) But I have to say that, with large screens we have now, it's seems more appropriate... Actually, I build sophisticated applications without menus but toolbars (at the top of the window) AND contextual menus that appear more intuitive for more advanced users: hierarchy in the way to access provided functions sounds to me as an ergonomic rule. Letting this apart, Richard explanation is, as usual, complete and clear :-) One way to avoid problems is to begin a project with Win32 and just setting the menu bar group using the menu builder then switch to Mac... Le 11 déc. 07 à 16:50, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Hi Richard, While the idea of a floating menubar is really nice (and so NeXT like!), it does pose a few problems on windows: - win32 task bar object - rev here is a nightmare - click on one and the menubar still stays behind/hidden for example... - If you hide the application, dont forget to hide the menu - but maybe that's not wanted but maybe yes other times - submarining the menu as you mentioned - but sometimes it is the other way around. And there's a bug in RR where the palettes are submarined by the normal stacks (fixed in 2.9?) - it's not standard and most windows users hate separate menus (as far as i've heard and seen them moan) - a separate menu steals more desktop real-estate than an included menu There's reasons why it could be cool but when you are used to menus being always on top of the window, you dont have to look for them. The same goes for a Mac user who sees their window while the menu of another application (which is active with no [overlapping] windows) is visible... just my two revcents... -=- Xavier Bury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/12/2007 16:36:57: Dave wrote: This is what I don't understand. How to I set the menu group on Windows? I can (and have set it and it works ok on Mac). I have a Menubar group in a stack called MenuBar how can I use this menubar group as the menu bar for the current stack under Windows? From the Rev Dictionary entry for menubar: On Mac OS systems, when a stack's menubar property is set, the stack is scrolled and resized on Mac OS systems so that the group is not visible in the stack window. (On Unix and Windows systems, this is not necessary, since the menu bar is normally displayed in the window.) On Windows (and pretty every other OS but Mac), the convention is the have menus at the top of the window. Only Mac detaches them to have a separate menu bar at the top of the monitor. To facilitate this, the menuBar property of a stack defines a group in a stack which will be automatically scrolled out of view when run on OS X, but will appear in place on all other systems. While contrary to convention, it's possible to have a menu bar on Windows which is separate from the stack. In fact, Rev does this, and one of the products we develop here does also (though we're in the process of redesigning it to adhere to convention in the next version). To have a separate menu bar on Windows just build the menu group in a separate stack and open it as palette so that it doesn't get covered by the other windows in your application. If your other windows are resizable you can also adjust the windowBoundingRect property to account for your menubar stack, so zooming won't submarine the top of the document below the menu stack. -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal Best regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. Plugins and tutorials for Revolution: http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Menu option on Mac
Hello The simple applications that we develop do not use Menubars. However, the default Menubar created by Revolution on the stand alone for Mac includes the About... option as the first one, and I would like to do something when the user select that option. I have seen some Revolution applications doing this. How can I do it? Regards, Andres Martinez www.baKno.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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Your AppleScript should look something like this: --3 lines, watch line wraps tell application Finder open folder Macintosh HD:Users:MeUser:Desktop:myFolder end tell Your Rev script should look like this: --a do statement is single line so you'll need to unwrap this --the tricky bit is quotes and spaces in the right place do tell application quote Finder quote cr open folder quote Macintosh HD:Users:MeUser:Desktop:myFolder quote cr end tell as applescript Just FYI, there's a couple of other approaches (some are best practices) when executing AppleScript from Rev... 1) Put the script into a custom property or field and execute it (although I wouldn't recommend fields for a variety of reasons): do (the openFolderScript of this stack) as AppleScript 2) If you need to do it inline, use the \ line continuation feature to help make your code more readable: put Macintosh HD:Users:MeUser:Desktop:myFolder into tFolder put tell application quote Finder quote cr \ open folder quote tFolder quote cr \ end tell into tScript do tScript as AppleScript 3) Use backquotes (`) for quotation marks while building your script, then replace them with double quotes before you execute your script (a variation of #2 above is shown below): put tell application`Finder` cr \ open folder `Macintosh HD:Users:MeUser:Desktop:myFolder` cr \ end tell into tScript replace ` with quote in tScript do tScript as AppleScript 4) Use the format() function to put in quotes (\) and returns (\n) on the fly (be careful though as you can't use continuation chars with format IIRC): put format(tell application \Finder\\n) \ format(open folder \Macintosh HD:Users:MeUser:Desktop:myFolder\\n) \ end tell into tScript do tScript as AppleScript Personally, I usually use #3 unless it's a one-liner, in which case I use #4 (if it's not too complex), but to each their own. :-) Also with the upcoming Rev 2.9 having the ability to do do ... as ... scriptingLanguage supporting VBScript and JavaScript (on Windows), having a good way to handle other scripting languages is important, IMHO. Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Menubar on Windows???
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:17:27 +, Dave wrote: This is what I don't understand. How to I set the menu group on Windows? I can (and have set it and it works ok on Mac). I have a Menubar group in a stack called MenuBar how can I use this menubar group as the menu bar for the current stack under Windows? Richard provided one way to make this happen (the floating palette that's only a menu while all your other stack windows don't have a menu bar at all). But as he pointed out, this is non-standard. So to make the same set of menus appear in all of your open stack windows, you will need to copy the group that contains the buttons that act as the menus (the menu group) to each stack - there isn't a way of setting a defaultMenuBar as there is in OS X. And since they will need to be copied, it is strongly recommended to *NOT* put the code that deals with the menu items inside the buttons that make up the menubar itself, as if you need to make a change to the code, you'd have to copy and paste it between all the same buttons in each of the open stacks... I tend to use (as do many others here on the list) a convention where the buttons in the menu group have no script at all, and the menu group has a single menupick handler that strips away the crud from the menu item name, collapses it into a single word and calls a centralized set of menu handlers (either in the main stack script or in a library or backscript). Something like this: on menuPick pMenuItemName put the short name of the target into tMenuName put ,...,!c,!n,!r,!u into tSpecialChars repeat for each item tItem in tSpecialChars replace tItem with in pMenuItemName end repeat do (tMenuName _ pMenuItemName) end menuPick So if you selected Page Setup... from the File menu, the menuPick handler above would do the command File_PageSetup, which you could trap in the mainstack script/library/backscript: on File_PageSetup -- your code here end File_PageSetup Other people I know do something similar but like one large DoMenu handler, so they'll change the last line of the 'menuPick' handler code above to: do (DoMenu tMenuName , pMenuItemName) and have a DoMenu handler like this: on DoMenu pMenu,pItem switch pMenu case File switch pItem case New -- code here break case PageSetup -- code here break -- etc. for all File menu items end switch break case Edit -- same switch structure here for Edit menu items break end switch end DoMenu Anyway, hope this helps get the mental juices flowing... ;-) Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Menubar on Windows???
xavier.bury wrote: While the idea of a floating menubar is really nice (and so NeXT like!), it does pose a few problems on windows: - win32 task bar object - rev here is a nightmare - click on one and the menubar still stays behind/hidden for example... - If you hide the application, dont forget to hide the menu - but maybe that's not wanted but maybe yes other times - submarining the menu as you mentioned - but sometimes it is the other way around. And there's a bug in RR where the palettes are submarined by the normal stacks (fixed in 2.9?) - it's not standard and most windows users hate separate menus (as far as i've heard and seen them moan) - a separate menu steals more desktop real-estate than an included menu There's reasons why it could be cool but when you are used to menus being always on top of the window, you dont have to look for them. The same goes for a Mac user who sees their window while the menu of another application (which is active with no [overlapping] windows) is visible... just my two revcents... I'd say more like a dollar's worth. :) You raise some very valuable issues, perhaps most importantly the consistency of the user experience for the person running your app in Windows. Just as Mac users would find it disconcerting to have their menus at the top of the window rather than in the menu bar, Windows users are accustomed to having menus at the top of their window, and changing that long-established convention risks being accused of a Mac port (I've had that with the one app I still ship which has a detached menu bar). In that app, we went that route because we had a very Mac Classic design, with lots of separate windows providing different views into the data. Since then, software design on the Mac has evolved to favor multiple panes in a single window where we used to use multiple windows. For example, in the olden days video editing software commonly had at least three windows: preview, timeline, and clips. In iMovie and other modern apps these are now panes in a single window. This migration to single-window UIs extends to email, iPhoto, tabbed web browsers, and a great many others. With OS X this migration is esp. useful, since Apple has now joined the rest of the world with interleaved windows. In Classic, all windows of an app came forward when any of them were clicked, but in OS X (and Window, UNIX, Linux, etc.) windows are fully interleaved: bringing a window forward only brings that one window forward, and any other windows, even those of the same app, are left where they were in the stacking order. This interleaving creates a need for more window management than is needed with a single-window UI. In older-style apps, to see all of the data views in various windows one would need to manually bring them all forward, or select Bring All To Front from the Window menu. But if you migrate those views to multiple panes within a single window, just one click brings everything you need to the front. For us Rev developers, this trend makes it easier to deliver HIG-conformant apps for all platforms, since we can make one menu bar in our one window and it'll display appropriately on OS X in the menu bar and at the top of the window for all other OSes. But sometimes redesigning a multi-window app to a single-window one is challenging and will require some thought to how the panes are laid out. So while prepping for a future single-window version, there are a couple things that can be done to make a detached menu bar slightly less cumbersome on Windows: In addition to adjusting the windowBoundingRect noted in my last post, there's also the minimize behavior. For that we trap the iconify message in the mainStack, and when the window being iconified is the menu bar we iconify all stacks. Similarly, when any stack is uniconified we make sure the menu bar stack is uniconified as well. But tossing in my own $0.02, I would encourage those making apps with detached menu bars to consider migrating to a design which supports the Windows convention of having the menu bar at the top of the window. While a quickie Mac port can get away with a detached menu bar for a first version, to be successful on Windows you'll want to adopt standard Windows conventions. And in the long term, if your app uses multiple windows you may find you can simplify your menu work while you simplify the user experience by migrating to multiple panes in a single window instead. -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
OT: VMware and Parallels
Hello Everyone, I have run into an issue with 2.9 b2, OS 10.4.11, and Parallels 3 build 5580. I have found Revolution created applications to be very unstable when made to run via a shortcut in the startup folder under both XP and Vista under the virtualization. I spent way too much time before trying it on a true PC boxes. I found the software to be stable on the real PC boxes. I decided to give VMware a try as I really make strong use of the virtualization technology both of these products provide. My applications under VMware did not crash. Using VMwares new beta conversion tool (parallels to vmware converter), it was very simple to give this a try. If you have been having any problems with Parallels, I thought you might be interested and willing to try VMware. Side note: Rev 2.8.1 is very stable under Parallels. The combination of Rev 2.9 and Parallels 3 causes the instability. Since everything works correctly on a real pc and on vmware, I am inclined to believe the problem is with Parallels and not Rev. YMMV. Mark Talluto -- CANELA Software http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: (no subject)
Thanks Ken, i was using a custom prop and ran it as applescript. Works fine. What i still dont understand is why everything went unresponsive (the finder) and why it now works... Maddening. What might happen tomorrow? -Original Message- From: Ken Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: 12/11/2007 8:56 AM Subject: Re: (no subject) Your AppleScript should look something like this: --3 lines, watch line wraps tell application Finder open folder Macintosh HD:Users:MeUser:Desktop:myFolder end tell Your Rev script should look like this: --a do statement is single line so you'll need to unwrap this --the tricky bit is quotes and spaces in the right place do tell application quote Finder quote cr open folder quote Macintosh HD:Users:MeUser:Desktop:myFolder quote cr end tell as applescript Just FYI, there's a couple of other approaches (some are best practices) when executing AppleScript from Rev... 1) Put the script into a custom property or field and execute it (although I wouldn't recommend fields for a variety of reasons): do (the openFolderScript of this stack) as AppleScript 2) If you need to do it inline, use the \ line continuation feature to help make your code more readable: put Macintosh HD:Users:MeUser:Desktop:myFolder into tFolder put tell application quote Finder quote cr \ open folder quote tFolder quote cr \ end tell into tScript do tScript as AppleScript 3) Use backquotes (`) for quotation marks while building your script, then replace them with double quotes before you execute your script (a variation of #2 above is shown below): put tell application`Finder` cr \ open folder `Macintosh HD:Users:MeUser:Desktop:myFolder` cr \ end tell into tScript replace ` with quote in tScript do tScript as AppleScript 4) Use the format() function to put in quotes (\) and returns (\n) on the fly (be careful though as you can't use continuation chars with format IIRC): put format(tell application \Finder\\n) \ format(open folder \Macintosh HD:Users:MeUser:Desktop:myFolder\\n) \ end tell into tScript do tScript as AppleScript Personally, I usually use #3 unless it's a one-liner, in which case I use #4 (if it's not too complex), but to each their own. :-) Also with the upcoming Rev 2.9 having the ability to do do ... as ... scriptingLanguage supporting VBScript and JavaScript (on Windows), having a good way to handle other scripting languages is important, IMHO. Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: VMware and Parallels
On Dec 11, 2007, at 1:38 PM, Mark Talluto wrote: I have run into an issue with 2.9 b2, OS 10.4.11, and Parallels 3 build 5580. Hey Mark, Just a quick note that 5582 just came out for Parallels and it is the official release (not beta) for Leopard. Maybe that would help as well. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems www.bluemangolearning.com-www.screensteps.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Packages
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:31:17 +, Mark Smith wrote: This is great! I couldn't find this anywhere. So here's a function that uses it - maybe someone has better code for converting the path to applescript. Well you can have AppleScript do it for you using as POSIX file: function thePackages pFolder put tell application quote Finder quote cr \ packages of folder ( quote pFolder quote \ as POSIX file) cr end tell into tScr do tScr as applescript put the result into tList replace comma with cr in tList repeat for each line L in tList get wordoffset(file, L) put word it + 1 of L cr after tPackages end repeat replace quote with empty in tPackages return char 1 to -2 of tPackages end thePackages Either way works... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: VMware and Parallels
Hi Mark, The problems I reported a couple of days ago with not appearing text for a program running WindowsXP was under VMWare's Fusion as I mentioned. Perhaps the problems will disappear if/when I'm able to test the program on a real PC Box. This program was compiled using Rev 2.8.1. Have you been noting similar text problems with your experiments? Otherwise, my program ran just fine. Joe Wilkins On Dec 11, 2007, at 10:38 AM, Mark Talluto wrote: Hello Everyone, I have run into an issue with 2.9 b2, OS 10.4.11, and Parallels 3 build 5580. I have found Revolution created applications to be very unstable when made to run via a shortcut in the startup folder under both XP and Vista under the virtualization. I spent way too much time before trying it on a true PC boxes. I found the software to be stable on the real PC boxes. I decided to give VMware a try as I really make strong use of the virtualization technology both of these products provide. My applications under VMware did not crash. Using VMwares new beta conversion tool (parallels to vmware converter), it was very simple to give this a try. If you have been having any problems with Parallels, I thought you might be interested and willing to try VMware. Side note: Rev 2.8.1 is very stable under Parallels. The combination of Rev 2.9 and Parallels 3 causes the instability. Since everything works correctly on a real pc and on vmware, I am inclined to believe the problem is with Parallels and not Rev. YMMV. Mark Talluto -- CANELA Software http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Packages
Thanks, Ken! I had tried packages of POSIX folder..., but it didn't work, of course. Can you recommend a good Applescript book? Not an intro to scripting, but something fairly in-depth? If not, could you write one? :) Best, Mark On 11 Dec 2007, at 18:54, Ken Ray wrote: On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:31:17 +, Mark Smith wrote: This is great! I couldn't find this anywhere. So here's a function that uses it - maybe someone has better code for converting the path to applescript. Well you can have AppleScript do it for you using as POSIX file: function thePackages pFolder put tell application quote Finder quote cr \ packages of folder ( quote pFolder quote \ as POSIX file) cr end tell into tScr do tScr as applescript put the result into tList replace comma with cr in tList repeat for each line L in tList get wordoffset(file, L) put word it + 1 of L cr after tPackages end repeat replace quote with empty in tPackages return char 1 to -2 of tPackages end thePackages Either way works... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
OT: AppleScript Book Recommendations (Was Re: Packages)
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:11:52 +, Mark Smith wrote: Thanks, Ken! I had tried packages of POSIX folder..., but it didn't work, of course. Can you recommend a good Applescript book? Not an intro to scripting, but something fairly in-depth? If not, could you write one? :) :-) Actually, I have/use: AppleScript, The Missing Manual (Pogue Press/O'Reilly) (c) 2005 by Adam Goldstein (Has sections organized by function, like backing up file, commanding other applications, saving files, etc.) AppleScript in a Nutshell (O'Reilly) (c) 2001 by Bruce W. Perry (More technical, dictionary-type format) And the venerable... Danny Goodman's AppleScript Handbook, 2nd Ed (Random House) (c) 1994 by Danny Goodman (More basic, beginner-level stuff with sections of controlling other apps) Of the three, The Missing Manual is one I use the most when I'm looking to write a specific function, and Nutshell when I'm looking for a specific token to do a specific thing. Both I'd recommend... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Trouble figuring out printpapersize and small fonts
I am trying to print from Revolution onto a 2 inch wide X .75 inch tall barcode label. I'm having a very hard time, however, because: 1)? I don't know the secret formula for creating the printpapersize dimensions. According to the docs, 8.5 x 11 equates to a printpapersize of 595, 842.? So, if I'm doing my math right, a label that's 2 x .75 inches would have a papersize of 153, 57?? I'm telling the printer to print landscape, which also complicates things.? I don't know which end is up when defining papersize dimensions. (e.g.? 11 is to 842 as 2 is to 153) 2)? I'm having a hard time getting any fonts to print less than 8 point.? (I'm on a Mac).? When I go to see all the sizes that I can use to set a font like Courier, it looks like I can go down to 6, but when I print, it comes out huge.? Anyone know of any fonts that will print at size 6? More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Trouble figuring out printpapersize and small fonts
Oh, I forgot to mention, I'm printing using a Dymo Labelwriter 400 printer hook up to my Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 2:59 pm Subject: Trouble figuring out printpapersize and small fonts I am trying to print from Revolution onto a 2 inch wide X .75 inch tall barcode label. I'm having a very hard time, however, because: 1)? I don't know the secret formula for creating the printpapersize dimensions. According to the docs, 8.5 x 11 equates to a printpapersize of 595, 842.? So, if I'm doing my math right, a label that's 2 x .75 inches would have a papersize of 153, 57?? I'm telling the printer to print landscape, which also complicates things.? I don't know which end is up when defining papersize dimensions. (e.g.? 11 is to 842 as 2 is to 153) 2)? I'm having a hard time getting any fonts to print less than 8 point.? (I'm on a Mac).? When I go to see all the sizes that I can use to set a font like Courier, it looks like I can go down to 6, but when I print, it comes out huge.? Anyone know of any fonts that will print at size 6? More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Menu option on Mac
On Dec 11, 2007, at 9:49 AM, Andres Martinez wrote: Hello The simple applications that we develop do not use Menubars. However, the default Menubar created by Revolution on the stand alone for Mac includes the About... option as the first one, and I would like to do something when the user select that option. I have seen some Revolution applications doing this. How can I do it? Andres, In order to make the About... option in the default standalone menu work on a Mac, you'll have to create at least a minimal menu. The easiest way to do this is to open Tools Menu Builder. Create a new menu and give it a name, say myMenu. Then delete the File and Edit menus. In the remaining Help menu, delete the first item, Help, leaving only a - and the About item on the next line. Then close the Menu Builder. Hide the new group. In the group script create a menuPick handler like this: on menuPick what switch what case About -- display the about box here break end switch end menuPick In an openStack or preOpenStack handler make this group the menubar group: on openstack set the menubar of this stack to myMenu end openstack Now when you create a standalone from the stack the about menu will function. You don't have to worry about the Quit option because the OS handles that. Others may have different ideas about how to do this, but this will work. Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Getting vScroll movement of a field scrollbar
My thanks to all who replied. Eric's protocol works wonderfully well--see his description below. (When he says that this makes the button disappear appropriately I think he means that the button will disappear as it passes off the top of the field.) Very slick. Jim Message: 20 Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:02:08 +0100 From: Eric Chatonet [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Getting vScroll movement of a field scrollbar To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hi Jim, May be I don't understand the problem ;-) But: I created a scrolling field, added a button overlaying the field and grouped both with group margins = zero. Then I locked the group: this makes the button disappear appropriately. In the script of the field: on scrollbardrag pPos set the top of btn Test to value - pPos end scrollbardrag value is the top of the button when field's vScroll = zero. In the script of the card: on preOpenCard send scrollbardrag the vScroll of fld ScrollingField to fld ScrollingField end preOpenCard Actually this works for me in any case and I don't mind any initial position :-) What did I miss? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Getting vScroll movement of a field scrollbar
Hi Jim, Le 11 déc. 07 à 21:23, James Hurley a écrit : My thanks to all who replied. Eric's protocol works wonderfully well--see his description below. (When he says that this makes the button disappear appropriately I think he means that the button will disappear as it passes off the top of the field.) You are completely right: your English is better than mine ;-) Grouping and locking the group with 'no' margins, as you understood it :-), makes the button(s) as they were really incorporated in the field. Glad to help you who helped me with Bezier curves some time ago: in this field you are a master :-) Very slick. Jim Message: 20 Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:02:08 +0100 From: Eric Chatonet [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Getting vScroll movement of a field scrollbar To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: 7A404ABC-7D1F-466A- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hi Jim, May be I don't understand the problem ;-) But: I created a scrolling field, added a button overlaying the field and grouped both with group margins = zero. Then I locked the group: this makes the button disappear appropriately. In the script of the field: on scrollbardrag pPos set the top of btn Test to value - pPos end scrollbardrag value is the top of the button when field's vScroll = zero. In the script of the card: on preOpenCard send scrollbardrag the vScroll of fld ScrollingField to fld ScrollingField end preOpenCard Actually this works for me in any case and I don't mind any initial position :-) Best regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. Plugins and tutorials for Revolution: http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Getting vScroll movement of a field scrollbar
Hi James, Probably, I confused between Jim and James Hurley: Not a problem: glad to help :-) Le 11 déc. 07 à 21:38, Eric Chatonet a écrit : You are completely right: your English is better than mine ;-) Grouping and locking the group with 'no' margins, as you understood it :-), makes the button(s) as they were really incorporated in the field. Glad to help you who helped me with Bezier curves some time ago: in this field you are a master :-) Best regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. Plugins and tutorials for Revolution: http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Menu option on Mac
Thanks Devin It worked perfectly!!! : ) Regards, Andres Martinez www.baKno.com On Dec 11, 2007, at 3:22 PM, Devin Asay wrote: On Dec 11, 2007, at 9:49 AM, Andres Martinez wrote: Hello The simple applications that we develop do not use Menubars. However, the default Menubar created by Revolution on the stand alone for Mac includes the About... option as the first one, and I would like to do something when the user select that option. I have seen some Revolution applications doing this. How can I do it? Andres, In order to make the About... option in the default standalone menu work on a Mac, you'll have to create at least a minimal menu. The easiest way to do this is to open Tools Menu Builder. Create a new menu and give it a name, say myMenu. Then delete the File and Edit menus. In the remaining Help menu, delete the first item, Help, leaving only a - and the About item on the next line. Then close the Menu Builder. Hide the new group. In the group script create a menuPick handler like this: on menuPick what switch what case About -- display the about box here break end switch end menuPick In an openStack or preOpenStack handler make this group the menubar group: on openstack set the menubar of this stack to myMenu end openstack Now when you create a standalone from the stack the about menu will function. You don't have to worry about the Quit option because the OS handles that. Others may have different ideas about how to do this, but this will work. Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Rev 2.9 beta buttons won't move (trying again)
Hello everyone: When I build a standalone using Rev 2.9 beta 9, my rectangle buttons will neither play a sound nor move according to the scripts below, even though they work perfectly in the IDE. on mouseDown -- in the button script moveButtons end mouseDown - on moveButtons -- in the main stack script set the playloudness of audioClip Click 3.aif to 50 play audioClip Click 3.aif move the target relative 2,2 in 4 ticks move the target relative -2,-2 in 4 ticks end moveButtons Usually the button script (other included commands) will function, but sometimes not. I filed a bug report about this with quality control, but now I'm wondering if anyone else has observed this problem, or could try to duplicate it in the 2.9 beta. Thank you. Paul Gabel iMac Intel Leopard ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Also OT: Ron Paul
Has anyone on this list heard of Ron Paul? If so, just curious what the people whose brains have been trained to think logically through a life of programming code think. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Also OT: Ron Paul
Tax hack dressed up like a candidate. Think scientology as politics. -Original Message- From: Josh Mellicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: 12/11/2007 6:14 PM Subject: Also OT: Ron Paul Has anyone on this list heard of Ron Paul? If so, just curious what the people whose brains have been trained to think logically through a life of programming code think. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Also OT: Ron Paul
On Dec 11, 2007, at 6:14 PM, Josh Mellicker wrote: Has anyone on this list heard of Ron Paul? Yes. If so, just curious what the people whose brains have been trained to think logically through a life of programming code think. You'll find about the same range of political opinions you would find among illogical brains. I get the implication that logical brains prefer Ron Paul. I'll give that the consideration it deserves. Tim ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Also OT: Ron Paul
This is seriously off topic bad form... Sorry i lost track of place and purpous... I have read that programmers as a group tend towards libratarianism (more proof i am not a real programmer). -Original Message- From: Josh Mellicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: 12/11/2007 6:14 PM Subject: Also OT: Ron Paul Has anyone on this list heard of Ron Paul? If so, just curious what the people whose brains have been trained to think logically through a life of programming code think. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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On Dec 12, 2007 12:56 AM, Ken Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just FYI, there's a couple of other approaches (some are best practices) when executing AppleScript from Rev... As usual, some excellent advice from the experts. Thanks for sharing. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
