Re: Reversing a list

2008-04-03 Thread Mark Schonewille

Hi Sarah,

After a little discussion in ChatRev, this is what I end up with:

function reverseList theListArray
  split theListArray by cr
  put the keys of theListArray
  combine theListArray by cr and tab
  sort lines of theListArray numeric descending by item 1 of each
  split theListArray by column
  return theListArray[2]
end reverseList

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On 3 apr 2008, at 06:00, Sarah Reichelt wrote:

OK people, what's the fastest way to reverse the order of lines in a
list. I have a list of images gathered together by filtering matching
files from a set of folders. Now I want to be able to reverse the
order, but their file names are varied and so I have no obvious way to
sort them.

I realise I could just use a repeat for each loop and put each one
before a new list variable, but that seems rather clumsy, and using
before slows down when I have thousands of records.

I'm hoping that Jacque will chime in with one of her custom sort ideas
that I never can think of, but anyone is welcome to come up with some
elegant solution.

Cheers,
Sarah
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Re: Reversing a list

2008-04-03 Thread BNig

hi,

 -- Jan Schenkels solution:
##
local sLineCount, sCurrentLine

on mouseUp
put 0 into sCurrentLine
put the number of lines in field 1 into sLineCount
put the millisec into tStart
sort field 1 by ReverseOrder()
put the millisec - tStart
end mouseUp

function ReverseOrder
add 1 to sCurrentLine
return sLineCount - sCurrentLine
end ReverseOrder
##

I tried this on field with 10 lines filled with number from 1 to 10, it
works and is fast.

I then tried it with a field filled with 10 line filled with numbers
1 to 9

then it does not work correctly. Since I dont even understand the syntax in
the first place I have no idea why.

on the 10 lines once the last lines are:

00020
90001
00019
00018
00017
00016
00015
00014
00013
00012
00011
00010
9
9
8
7
6
5
4
3
2
1

While Mark Schonewilles solution:

on mouseUp pMouseBtnNo
put the millisec into tStart
put field 1 into temp
put reverseList(temp) into temp2
put temp2 into field 1
put the millisec - tStart
end mouseUp

function reverseList theListArray
split theListArray by cr
--   put the keys of theListArray
combine theListArray by cr and tab
sort lines of theListArray numeric descending by item 1 of each
split theListArray by column
return theListArray[2]
end reverseList
--

on the same list in the field works for small and large number of lines and
repeatedly and  still is very fast (580 msec) on a MacBook Pro 2.33

I didnt try where the cutoff for correct results in Jans function is.
 I thought just to mention the problem because it might not be so obvious
for lists that are not easily checked for consistency

and thanks for these functions, I always enjoy the discussions on the list

regards

Bernd

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Re: Reversing a list

2008-04-03 Thread wayne durden
Hi Bernd,

I suspect the issue in the large list is that it is taking more than a
second to populate the sort list or the start time is near the rollover of
milliSecond ...

Wayne


On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 9:21 AM, BNig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 hi,

  -- Jan Schenkels solution:
 ##
 local sLineCount, sCurrentLine

 on mouseUp
put 0 into sCurrentLine
 put the number of lines in field 1 into sLineCount
put the millisec into tStart
 sort field 1 by ReverseOrder()
 put the millisec - tStart
 end mouseUp

 function ReverseOrder
add 1 to sCurrentLine
return sLineCount - sCurrentLine
 end ReverseOrder
 ##

 I tried this on field with 10 lines filled with number from 1 to 10, it
 works and is fast.

 I then tried it with a field filled with 10 line filled with numbers
 1 to 9

 then it does not work correctly. Since I dont even understand the syntax
 in
 the first place I have no idea why.

 on the 10 lines once the last lines are:

 00020
 90001
 00019
 00018
 00017
 00016
 00015
 00014
 00013
 00012
 00011
 00010
 9
 9
 8
 7
 6
 5
 4
 3
 2
 1

 While Mark Schonewilles solution:

 on mouseUp pMouseBtnNo
put the millisec into tStart
put field 1 into temp
put reverseList(temp) into temp2
put temp2 into field 1
put the millisec - tStart
 end mouseUp

 function reverseList theListArray
split theListArray by cr
--   put the keys of theListArray
combine theListArray by cr and tab
sort lines of theListArray numeric descending by item 1 of each
split theListArray by column
return theListArray[2]
 end reverseList
 --

 on the same list in the field works for small and large number of lines
 and
 repeatedly and  still is very fast (580 msec) on a MacBook Pro 2.33

 I didnt try where the cutoff for correct results in Jans function is.
  I thought just to mention the problem because it might not be so obvious
 for lists that are not easily checked for consistency

 and thanks for these functions, I always enjoy the discussions on the list

 regards

 Bernd

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Textifier

2008-04-03 Thread Richmond Mathewson
Just uploaded a version of 'Textifier' that also
exports images of objects to a series of nested
folders dependent on which stack /substack / card they
reside.

HOWEVER;

some of the images of the objects come out all
wrong;

Please, if you can spare the time, download this and
have a 'play' with it.

Grateful for feedback, whether on or off list.

sincerely, Richmond Mathewson



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Reversing a list

2008-04-03 Thread Richmond Mathewson
Try this:

on mouseUp
  put the number of lines of fld fZ into TNUM
  put the number of lines of fld fZ + 1 into ANUM
  repeat for each line ZNUM in fld fZ
put (ANUM -1) into ANUM
put ZNUM into line ANUM of fld fA
  end repeat
end mouseUp

where fld fZ is the starting field and fA is the
finishing field.

love, Richmond



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Reversing a list

2008-04-03 Thread Richmond Mathewson
Just uploaded Back to Fronter to revOnline for those
of you who are too busy to populate a lists with lots
of data.

Be there or be square!

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Reversing a list

2008-04-03 Thread Richmond Mathewson
Stupid Me! realise that the line:

put the number of lines of fld fZ into TNUM

is redundant and only serves to slow the thing down.

Clumsy or not (!!):

on mouseUp
  put the number of lines of fld fZ + 1 into ANUM
  repeat for each line ZNUM in fld fZ
put (ANUM -1) into ANUM
put ZNUM into line ANUM of fld fA
  end repeat
end mouseUp

does things bl**dy quickly, and without the need of
some fancy homemade function!

love, Richmond.



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Re: Reversing a list

2008-04-03 Thread Eric Chatonet

Hi Richmond,

Le 3 avr. 08 à 17:28, Richmond Mathewson a écrit :

Stupid Me! realise that the line:

put the number of lines of fld fZ into TNUM

is redundant and only serves to slow the thing down.

Clumsy or not (!!):

on mouseUp
  put the number of lines of fld fZ + 1 into ANUM
  repeat for each line ZNUM in fld fZ
put (ANUM -1) into ANUM
put ZNUM into line ANUM of fld fA
  end repeat
end mouseUp

does things bl**dy quickly, and without the need of
some fancy homemade function!


If you want to speed up this by about one hundred:

  put fld fZ into tList
  put the number of lines of tList + 1 into ANUM
  repeat for each line ZNUM in tList
put (ANUM -1) into ANUM
put ZNUM into line ANUM of tReverseList
  end repeat
  put tReverseList into fld fA

Best regards from Paris,
Eric Chatonet.

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Re: Reversing a list

2008-04-03 Thread J. Landman Gay

BNig wrote:


I tried this on field with 10 lines filled with number from 1 to 10, it
works and is fast.

I then tried it with a field filled with 10 line filled with numbers
1 to 9

then it does not work correctly. Since I dont even understand the syntax in
the first place I have no idea why.


Because you have substituted numbers for alpha characters, you'll need 
to sort numeric. Then it seems to work. Eric's solution is similar to 
mine, so I tested mine, and adding numeric fixed it.


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Rev on Web?

2008-04-03 Thread Dan Friedman
You can make a Rev standalone and run it from the internet on Windows, no
problem!  Is there a way to do this on a Mac?

Thanks,
Dan


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Re: activating palette loses textselection?

2008-04-03 Thread David Bovill
On 02/04/2008, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Klaus Major wrote:

  OK - no answer - but it only happens when the target of the text-
   palette is
   a non-list field?
  
 
  No, ANY field.
  Looks like the engine automatically puts the focus on the first field
   in the stack, palette or not.


Yes - but not the other way round - so list fields, I think all locked
fields do not loose their selections - only the open field.

In my experience, IIRC, it's not limited to fields but any controls. Once
 another control gets focus, text selection in an open field is lost.


Menus are OK - as are buttons that have the traversalOn set to false?
TraversalOn set to false for list fields does not seem to work - the
selection in an unlocked field is lost. This behaviour seems unrelated to
whether the stack is a palette or not.

I had submitted this request some time ago for a related issue:

 Indication of selected text not currently in focus:
 http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=3327

 Perhaps you and some of the others here might add some refinements to that
 to better clarify the scope of what's needed.


Done - not sure about this. But from where i can see according to the docs:

If the lockText is true and the traversalOn is false, the user can neither
 select nor edit the field's text.


Well I have a list field here with lockText = true, traversalOn = false,
autohilite = true and well selection is fine??? My take on this would be
that the traversalOn = false should be able to allow text palettes for
buttons, menus and fields???


Menus are OK - as are buttons that have the traversalOn set to false?
TraversalOn set to false for list fields does not seem to work - the
selection in an unlocked field is lost. This behaviour seems unrelated to
whether the stack is a palette or not.
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Re: Rev on Web?

2008-04-03 Thread Devin Asay


On Apr 3, 2008, at 10:34 AM, Dan Friedman wrote:
You can make a Rev standalone and run it from the internet on  
Windows, no

problem!  Is there a way to do this on a Mac?



Dan,

Can you explain more about what you mean by run it from the  
internet? There should be no difference between the way this works  
for Mac vs. Windows. The most common way to do this, Mac or Windows,  
is to create a small standalone that simply opens a stack that is  
stored on a web server with the command:


  go to stack URL http://myserver.domain.com/mystack.rev;

If it's working for you in Windows but not in Mac, the most likely  
culprit is that the internet libraries are not being packaged with  
the standalone. In the standalone applications settings window, make  
sure that the Internet library is selected under Script libraries.  
(You'll have to Select Inclusions manually to be able to do this.)


Let us know if it works out.

Regards,

Devin

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Re: Rev on Web?

2008-04-03 Thread Dan Friedman
Devin,

No, no... Not a stack, an application!  Basically, we're replicating a web
app with no install.

On Windows, I can put http://www.mydomain.com/myapp.exe; in a web browser
and run it (ya have to click run).  Can you do something similar for the
Mac - where no install is needed, or player.

Thanks,
-Dan



 Dan,
 
 Can you explain more about what you mean by run it from the
 internet? There should be no difference between the way this works
 for Mac vs. Windows. The most common way to do this, Mac or Windows,
 is to create a small standalone that simply opens a stack that is
 stored on a web server with the command:
 
go to stack URL http://myserver.domain.com/mystack.rev;
 
 If it's working for you in Windows but not in Mac, the most likely
 culprit is that the internet libraries are not being packaged with
 the standalone. In the standalone applications settings window, make
 sure that the Internet library is selected under Script libraries.
 (You'll have to Select Inclusions manually to be able to do this.)
 
 Let us know if it works out.
 
 Regards,
 
 Devin
 
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Re: Rev on Web?

2008-04-03 Thread Devin Asay


On Apr 3, 2008, at 11:08 AM, Dan Friedman wrote:

Devin,

No, no... Not a stack, an application!  Basically, we're  
replicating a web

app with no install.

On Windows, I can put http://www.mydomain.com/myapp.exe; in a web  
browser
and run it (ya have to click run).  Can you do something similar  
for the

Mac - where no install is needed, or player.


Ah, I understand now. There is no way I know of to do this on a Mac  
that I know of. You pretty much have to have a Rev engine running  
locally, which means an install would be required.


Devin




Dan,

Can you explain more about what you mean by run it from the
internet? There should be no difference between the way this works
for Mac vs. Windows. The most common way to do this, Mac or Windows,
is to create a small standalone that simply opens a stack that is
stored on a web server with the command:

   go to stack URL http://myserver.domain.com/mystack.rev;

If it's working for you in Windows but not in Mac, the most likely
culprit is that the internet libraries are not being packaged with
the standalone. In the standalone applications settings window, make
sure that the Internet library is selected under Script libraries.
(You'll have to Select Inclusions manually to be able to do this.)

Let us know if it works out.

Regards,

Devin

Devin Asay
Humanities Technology and Research Support Center
Brigham Young University






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Re: Using revDatabaseColumnNamed returns weird character when database field has NULL

2008-04-03 Thread Ben Rubinstein

On 2/4/08 20:36, mfstuart wrote:

Testing my application that accesses MSSQL thru ODBC (in 2.8.1) on WINXP, I
manually typed in some records into the table using Enterprise Manager. I
left some fields without any values, and therefore MSSQL displays NULL,
for no value. OK so far.

When using the subjects rev command, I see that for the fields without any
value (NULL), it puts some character (a square) into the field on the
stack.

So my question is, how do I look for nulls in a SQL table field and NOT put
it into the field on the stack?


Hi Mark,

I think this might be a bug that is fixed in 2.9:

http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=5440

I suggest download the latest beta and test with that.

HTH,

- Ben

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Apple Text Box?

2008-04-03 Thread Paul Gabel

Hi everyone:

Is it possible within a Rev standalone to call up the Apple Text Box,  
similarly to how answer color will bring up the Color Box?


Paul Gabel
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New Site, Revolution 2.9 launched

2008-04-03 Thread Bill Marriott
Hi everyone,

I'm sure a lot of you have noticed that the runrev.com web site looks a bit 
different in the last couple of hours.

We've launched a new look and feel, based on a content management system and 
storefront that we've written in-house that incorporates a variety of 
technologies, including Revolution.

There are still some glitches associated with the switchover from our 
staging server. And some content issues we'll be addressing quickly over the 
next few days and weeks. But overall, we think the new site -- even in its 
current, work-in-progress state -- is a much better experience for visitors 
than the old one.

In other news, Revolution 2.9 is live. We'll be sending out notification 
letters tomorrow morning. Enterprise users with active licenses can use 
check for updates to obtain the new version. Studio users with active 
licenses can download the appropriate version by going to the site and 
choosing Downloads  All Downloads.

Most of the marketing materials about the new version are live on the 
site... We know there are some issues with images and whatnot, those will be 
cleaned up in short order.

I'll also be sending out an update to registered beta testers with a roundup 
of the Open Beta and other news.

Thanks for everyone's participation

- Bill Marriott
  Director of Marketing
  Runtime Revolution
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Congratulations!

2008-04-03 Thread Mark Schonewille

Hi!

I'd like to congratulate the RunRev team with the release of 2.9!  
Revolution 2.9 is definitely the best release ever. Thank you RunRev,  
for your commitment to make your product better. You have been very  
succesful.


Not every bug has been fixed, in fact there are more bug reports than  
ever, but I am sure that's because people feel their bug reports are  
taken seriously now and feel encouraged to report more bugs.


The new website also looks great and I very much like the story about  
Revolution at NASA, which is on the front page.


Thanks for making my professional life as a programmer a little easier.

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Re: Apple Text Box?

2008-04-03 Thread Stephen Barncard
One would have to either create an external or make one completely 
from scratch in Rev (I'm sure that's possible.)


I don't think such a beast exists in W*ndows, so Rev probably isn't 
going to make one.




Hi everyone:

Is it possible within a Rev standalone to call up the Apple Text 
Box, similarly to how answer color will bring up the Color Box?


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Re: New Site, Revolution 2.9 launched

2008-04-03 Thread Judy Perry
Is anyone else having an update installer stall?

Mine (2.7) under updating shows the update installer window with its
different periodic bits of promo, but the progress bar shows zero
progress after several minutes.

Any ideas?

Thanks!

Judy
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Re: Apple Text Box?

2008-04-03 Thread Mark Schonewille

Hi Paul,

Do you mean the character palette? If you know how to do it, it is  
very simple:


tell application Finder
	open item  
System:Library:Components:CharacterPalette 
.component:Contents:SharedSupport:CharPaletteServer of the startup disk

end tell

Mind line wraps. This should work in Tiger and Leopard. Courtesy of  
MacOSXHints.com.


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On 3 apr 2008, at 22:48, Paul Gabel wrote:

Hi everyone:

Is it possible within a Rev standalone to call up the Apple Text  
Box, similarly to how answer color will bring up the Color Box?


Paul Gabel


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Re: New Site, Revolution 2.9 launched

2008-04-03 Thread Mark Schonewille

Hi Judy,

It is working fine here, but I am sure the servers are very busy now.  
A small delay of a few minutes is possible. If it takes too long, you  
should be able to cancel and try again later.


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On 3 apr 2008, at 23:34, Judy Perry wrote:

Is anyone else having an update installer stall?

Mine (2.7) under updating shows the update installer window with its
different periodic bits of promo, but the progress bar shows zero
progress after several minutes.

Any ideas?

Thanks!

Judy


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Re: Apple Text Box?

2008-04-03 Thread Stephen Barncard

I think he means the box you get when you type cmd-T in TextEdit.

It shows all the fonts and families and other font style stuff and 
also has a convenient slider for Text size. Is this apple-scriptable?




Hi Paul,

Do you mean the character palette? If you know how to do it, it is 
very simple:


tell application Finder
	open item 
System:Library:Components:CharacterPalette.component:Contents:SharedSupport:CharPaletteServer 
of the startup disk

end tell

Mind line wraps. This should work in Tiger and Leopard. Courtesy of 
MacOSXHints.com.


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On 3 apr 2008, at 22:48, Paul Gabel wrote:

Hi everyone:

Is it possible within a Rev standalone to call up the Apple Text 
Box, similarly to how answer color will bring up the Color Box?


Paul Gabel





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Re: Apple Text Box?

2008-04-03 Thread Devin Asay


On Apr 3, 2008, at 3:38 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote:

Hi Paul,

Do you mean the character palette?


Mark,

I assumed he meant this one:

http://asay.byu.edu/textbox.png

that you get in standard Cocoa apps like TextEdit.

Which one were you talking about, Paul?

Regards,

Devin


If you know how to do it, it is very simple:

tell application Finder
	open item  
System:Library:Components:CharacterPalette.component:Contents:SharedS 
upport:CharPaletteServer of the startup disk

end tell

Mind line wraps. This should work in Tiger and Leopard. Courtesy of  
MacOSXHints.com.


Best regards,




On 3 apr 2008, at 22:48, Paul Gabel wrote:

Hi everyone:

Is it possible within a Rev standalone to call up the Apple Text  
Box, similarly to how answer color will bring up the Color Box?


Paul Gabel


Devin Asay
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Brigham Young University

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Re: New Site, Revolution 2.9 launched

2008-04-03 Thread Sarah Reichelt
On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 7:34 AM, Judy Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is anyone else having an update installer stall?

  Mine (2.7) under updating shows the update installer window with its
  different periodic bits of promo, but the progress bar shows zero
  progress after several minutes.

  Any ideas?



Yes, I have an idea. How about all you folk on the other side of the
planet go to sleep and let me get my update :-)

But seriously, mine is coming in, but it's slow, so I'm sure Mark is
right and the servers are being overloaded.
Congratulations to all at RunRev on the release and on the new site.

Cheers,
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2.9.0

2008-04-03 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Well, I just downloaded the new Studio 2.9.0 Version and tried to open  
an HyperCard Stack. Response was that it was not recognized as a  
Stack. Guess I should have checked this out while it was in beta, but  
it never ever entered my mind that this issue would not have been  
addressed.


Do we have a solution, such as giving the name of the HyperCard a .rev  
extension? Well, I tried that. Didn't work.


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Re: 2.9.0

2008-04-03 Thread Bill Marriott
Hi Joe,

 Do we have a solution, such as giving the name of the HyperCard a .rev 
 extension? Well, I tried that. Didn't work.

I've just opened several HyperCard stacks successfully with 2.9. I give them 
the extension .mc but I don't know if that is the key.

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Re: 2.9.0

2008-04-03 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
I also tried to open the HC stack with 2.8.1 and that didn't work  
either. Unfortunately, I didn't keep my copy of 2.7.4 around. I had  
used it to convert some HC stacks to Rev stacks, so it should have  
worked. Guess I'll have to download that version again, if I still  
can. We'll see.


Joe Wilkins

On Apr 3, 2008, at 3:33 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:

Well, I just downloaded the new Studio 2.9.0 Version and tried to  
open an HyperCard Stack. Response was that it was not recognized as  
a Stack. Guess I should have checked this out while it was in beta,  
but it never ever entered my mind that this issue would not have  
been addressed.


Do we have a solution, such as giving the name of the HyperCard  
a .rev extension? Well, I tried that. Didn't work.


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Re: 2.9.0

2008-04-03 Thread Mark Schonewille

Hi Joe,

I imported an arbitrary HyperCard stack without problems. I also  
noticed that I don't even need to choose All Files in the open file  
dialog. Apparently, the file type filters have been adjusted. The  
stack I imported has no file extension but its file type is WILDSTAK.


Can you open your HyperCard stack in HyperCard?

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On 4 apr 2008, at 00:33, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:
Well, I just downloaded the new Studio 2.9.0 Version and tried to  
open an HyperCard Stack. Response was that it was not recognized as  
a Stack. Guess I should have checked this out while it was in beta,  
but it never ever entered my mind that this issue would not have  
been addressed.


Do we have a solution, such as giving the name of the HyperCard  
a .rev extension? Well, I tried that. Didn't work.


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Re: 2.9.0

2008-04-03 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Hmn! Tried that, but no luck. Can't imagine what would be different  
between our HC stacks. Bet Jacqui knows!


Joe Wilkins

On Apr 3, 2008, at 3:41 PM, Bill Marriott wrote:


Hi Joe,

Do we have a solution, such as giving the name of the HyperCard  
a .rev

extension? Well, I tried that. Didn't work.


I've just opened several HyperCard stacks successfully with 2.9. I  
give them

the extension .mc but I don't know if that is the key.

- Bill



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Re: 2.9.0

2008-04-03 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins

Hi Mark,

Yes, I use it every day, though not on OSX - on a G4 running 9.2.2.

Get Info shows its Kind as an HyperCard document, but when I put an  
extension of .mc (I had also tried .rev earlier), it says the Kind is  
a StackRunner document. Except for going back to 2.7.4 and converting  
it, I don't have any other ideas.


Joe Wilkins


On Apr 3, 2008, at 3:48 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote:


Hi Joe,

I imported an arbitrary HyperCard stack without problems. I also  
noticed that I don't even need to choose All Files in the open  
file dialog. Apparently, the file type filters have been adjusted.  
The stack I imported has no file extension but its file type is  
WILDSTAK.


Can you open your HyperCard stack in HyperCard?

Best regards,

Mark Schonewille

--

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http://economy-x-talk.com
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On 4 apr 2008, at 00:33, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:
Well, I just downloaded the new Studio 2.9.0 Version and tried to  
open an HyperCard Stack. Response was that it was not recognized as  
a Stack. Guess I should have checked this out while it was in beta,  
but it never ever entered my mind that this issue would not have  
been addressed.


Do we have a solution, such as giving the name of the HyperCard  
a .rev extension? Well, I tried that. Didn't work.


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Re: 2.9.0

2008-04-03 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Unfortunately, 2.7.4 for OSX is no longer available on the rev website  
downloads page. Maybe it needs to be added so we can still convert HC  
to Rev.?


Joe Wilkins

On Apr 3, 2008, at 3:48 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:

I also tried to open the HC stack with 2.8.1 and that didn't work  
either. Unfortunately, I didn't keep my copy of 2.7.4 around. I had  
used it to convert some HC stacks to Rev stacks, so it should have  
worked. Guess I'll have to download that version again, if I still  
can. We'll see.


Joe Wilkins

On Apr 3, 2008, at 3:33 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:

Well, I just downloaded the new Studio 2.9.0 Version and tried to  
open an HyperCard Stack. Response was that it was not recognized as  
a Stack. Guess I should have checked this out while it was in beta,  
but it never ever entered my mind that this issue would not have  
been addressed.


Do we have a solution, such as giving the name of the HyperCard  
a .rev extension? Well, I tried that. Didn't work.


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Re: New Site, Revolution 2.9 launched

2008-04-03 Thread Judy Perry
Hi Sarah,

How slow is your slow?  On my side, after about 10 minutes, still
nothing on the progress bar...  normal?

Judy

On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Sarah Reichelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 7:34 AM, Judy Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Is anyone else having an update installer stall?
  
Mine (2.7) under updating shows the update installer window with its
different periodic bits of promo, but the progress bar shows zero
progress after several minutes.
  
Any ideas?
  


  Yes, I have an idea. How about all you folk on the other side of the
  planet go to sleep and let me get my update :-)

  But seriously, mine is coming in, but it's slow, so I'm sure Mark is
  right and the servers are being overloaded.
  Congratulations to all at RunRev on the release and on the new site.

  Cheers,
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Re: 2.9.0

2008-04-03 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
I remember now that I had problems with a really old HC stack when I  
first started making some conversions, but this one is quite new.


Joe Wilkins

On Apr 3, 2008, at 3:52 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:

Hmn! Tried that, but no luck. Can't imagine what would be different  
between our HC stacks. Bet Jacqui knows!


Joe Wilkins

On Apr 3, 2008, at 3:41 PM, Bill Marriott wrote:


Hi Joe,

Do we have a solution, such as giving the name of the HyperCard  
a .rev

extension? Well, I tried that. Didn't work.


I've just opened several HyperCard stacks successfully with 2.9. I  
give them

the extension .mc but I don't know if that is the key.

- Bill



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Re: 2.9.0

2008-04-03 Thread Mark Schonewille

Hi Joe,

Did you compact the stack in HyperCard before importing it? It happens  
very rarely (never happened to any of my own stacks), but there might  
be some garbage in your stack that makes Rev think it isn't a  
HyperCard stack.


Is the file size different, after you have copied it over to the Mac  
OS X machine? Do you use any compression tools when transferring it to  
the other machine?


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On 4 apr 2008, at 00:57, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:

Hi Mark,

Yes, I use it every day, though not on OSX - on a G4 running 9.2.2.

Get Info shows its Kind as an HyperCard document, but when I put an  
extension of .mc (I had also tried .rev earlier), it says the Kind  
is a StackRunner document. Except for going back to 2.7.4 and  
converting it, I don't have any other ideas.


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ANN A celebration puzzle for 2.9

2008-04-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Having just seen the announcement on the RunRev site of the official release of 
Revolution v2.9, I have uploaded to my User Space (BarryB) a little game built 
with Alex Tweedys amazing Image Jigsaw stack.
Hope it will amuse someone.Sorry I couldnt make something entirely mine but Im 
still trying.
Vive le Revolution!
Barry Barber

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Apple Text Box

2008-04-03 Thread Paul Gabel

Hi:

I mean —

The box you get when you type cmd-T in TextEdit. It shows all the  
fonts and families and other font style stuff and also has a  
convenient slider for Text size. as Stephen Barncard wrote.


I'm getting the impression that it's not possible, or at least not  
feasible for me.


Paul Gabel
Santa Cruz, California


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Re: 2.9.0 Solved

2008-04-03 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Mark, you're a genius. Compacting the stack before transferring it did  
the trick. It's a small stack 56k, but was 201k before compacting.  
Lots of bloat!


Thanks, this needs to go down in the FAQs!

Joe Wilkins

On Apr 3, 2008, at 4:10 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote:


Hi Joe,

Did you compact the stack in HyperCard before importing it? It  
happens very rarely (never happened to any of my own stacks), but  
there might be some garbage in your stack that makes Rev think it  
isn't a HyperCard stack.


Is the file size different, after you have copied it over to the Mac  
OS X machine? Do you use any compression tools when transferring it  
to the other machine?


Best regards,

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On 4 apr 2008, at 00:57, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:

Hi Mark,

Yes, I use it every day, though not on OSX - on a G4 running 9.2.2.

Get Info shows its Kind as an HyperCard document, but when I put an  
extension of .mc (I had also tried .rev earlier), it says the Kind  
is a StackRunner document. Except for going back to 2.7.4 and  
converting it, I don't have any other ideas.


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Re: New Site, Revolution 2.9 launched

2008-04-03 Thread Sarah Reichelt
The progress bar did move Judy. I would guess the whole download took
about 15 minutes. Have you tried downloading the complete installer
from the RunRev site? That might work better for you.

Sarah


On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Judy Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Sarah,

  How slow is your slow?  On my side, after about 10 minutes, still
  nothing on the progress bar...  normal?

  Judy

  On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Sarah Reichelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 7:34 AM, Judy Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is anyone else having an update installer stall?

  Mine (2.7) under updating shows the update installer window with its
  different periodic bits of promo, but the progress bar shows zero
  progress after several minutes.

  Any ideas?

  
  
Yes, I have an idea. How about all you folk on the other side of the
planet go to sleep and let me get my update :-)
  
But seriously, mine is coming in, but it's slow, so I'm sure Mark is
right and the servers are being overloaded.
Congratulations to all at RunRev on the release and on the new site.
  
Cheers,
Sarah
  
  
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combox borders in Linux/Gnome

2008-04-03 Thread Richard Gaskin
Under Ubunto/Gnome, combobox controls in v2.9 always have a heavy 
2-pixel border, regardless what I set the borderwidth to.


Anyone know a workaround to get them to have a more convention look 
under Gnome?


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Re: Reversing a list

2008-04-03 Thread Sarah Reichelt
And the winner is...

Jacque (with one modification).

local tCount

function reverseList pList
put the number of lines in pList into tCount
sort lines of pList by mySort()
return pList
end reverseList

function mySort
subtract 1 from tCount
return tCount
end mySort

I had thought that Jacque's must be faster than Jan's because Jan's
does more operations per cycle, but it was a bit slower. Then I
noticed that Jacque had used sort lines of pList by mySort(each)
where Jan had left out the each. Deleting the each from Jacque's
function made it the fastest. Fractionally faster than Jan's, it takes
about 2/3 of the time of Mark's solution using arrays, and it way
faster than the string method.

Thanks everyone - fun and instructive :-)

Cheers,
Sarah
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System requirements?

2008-04-03 Thread Richard Gaskin


I couldn't find the system requirements for Rev 2.9 on the new site - 
where are they?


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Re: System requirements?

2008-04-03 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
This is all I find, and Classic still isn't possible with 2.9.0 as  
far as I can tell: (but you're right, it doesn't list the system  
requirements to use Rev)


Revolution is the only development tool that enables anyone to create  
true standalone applications for:


Mac OS X, including Leopard
Mac OS Classic
Windows Vista, XP, 2000, and 98SE
Modern versions of Linux
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I couldn't find the system requirements for Rev 2.9 on the new site  
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Re: System requirements?

2008-04-03 Thread Richard Gaskin

Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:

Modern versions of Linux


Right - what does that mean?

Are there limitations with specific window managers, or specific 
versions of them?


I'm releasing a pubic beta of my first Linux version of one of my 
products, and I'm finding myself using some very flexible language to 
describe where people can expect it to work. ;)


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Re: New Site, Revolution 2.9 launched

2008-04-03 Thread Richard Gaskin

Bill Marriott wrote:

I'm sure a lot of you have noticed that the runrev.com web site looks a bit 
different in the last couple of hours.

...

In other news, Revolution 2.9 is live.


Congrats to the team on both front.  The web site looks great, with many 
improvements in both usability and aesthetics.  And v2.9 - what can I 
say, it may well be the best release ever.


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Re: System requirements?

2008-04-03 Thread Bill Marriott
You have to be running from Mac OS X to build for Mac Classic, just as in 
Rev 2.6.1.


Joe Lewis Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
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 This is all I find, and Classic still isn't possible with 2.9.0 as  far 
 as I can tell: (but you're right, it doesn't list the system  requirements 
 to use Rev)

 Revolution is the only development tool that enables anyone to create 
 true standalone applications for:

 Mac OS X, including Leopard
 Mac OS Classic
 Windows Vista, XP, 2000, and 98SE
 Modern versions of Linux
 Joe Wilkins

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 I couldn't find the system requirements for Rev 2.9 on the new site  - 
 where are they?

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Re: System requirements?

2008-04-03 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Well, I must be doing something else wrong, since the Build for: Mac  
OS can't be set. Looks as if it could be, but can't be. And I'm  
running from Leopard.


Joe Wilkins

On Apr 3, 2008, at 6:42 PM, Bill Marriott wrote:

You have to be running from Mac OS X to build for Mac Classic, just  
as in

Rev 2.6.1.


Joe Lewis Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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This is all I find, and Classic still isn't possible with 2.9.0  
as  far
as I can tell: (but you're right, it doesn't list the system   
requirements

to use Rev)

Revolution is the only development tool that enables anyone to create
true standalone applications for:

Mac OS X, including Leopard
Mac OS Classic
Windows Vista, XP, 2000, and 98SE
Modern versions of Linux
Joe Wilkins

On Apr 3, 2008, at 6:04 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:



I couldn't find the system requirements for Rev 2.9 on the new  
site  -

where are they?

--
Richard Gaskin
Fourth World Media Corporation




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Re: System requirements?

2008-04-03 Thread Sarah Reichelt
On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Joe Lewis Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well, I must be doing something else wrong, since the Build for: Mac OS
 can't be set. Looks as if it could be, but can't be. And I'm running from
 Leopard.

I haven't tried building, but I can check the Mac OS check box here
and I'm also running Leopard. Are you sure the correct version of Rev
is launched? 2.8 couldn't build for Mac Classic, so it has to be 2.9.

Sarah
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2.9 - New Site

2008-04-03 Thread Bryan McCormick
Noice as we say here on the East Coast. Really like the new look and 
feel of the site. Kudos on 2.9, 3.0 here we come.

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Re: System requirements?

2008-04-03 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Very strange, Sarah. It's definitely 2.9.0, Build 610. And I can't  
check the Mac OS box.


Joe Wilkins

On Apr 3, 2008, at 7:04 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote:

On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Joe Lewis Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:
Well, I must be doing something else wrong, since the Build for:  
Mac OS
can't be set. Looks as if it could be, but can't be. And I'm  
running from

Leopard.


I haven't tried building, but I can check the Mac OS check box here
and I'm also running Leopard. Are you sure the correct version of Rev
is launched? 2.8 couldn't build for Mac Classic, so it has to be 2.9.

Sarah
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Re: System requirements? SOLVED

2008-04-03 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Well, guys and gals, I feel kind of stupid; maybe I can attribute it  
to my poor eyesight, but it seems to me that most of the time, when  
you want to set a check box, you click on either the box or the words.  
I normally click on the box. In this case that does not work. You have  
to click on the words Mac OS. Doing that it works. Duh!


Sorry to have made some of you scratch their heads, but thanks.

Joe Wilkins

On Apr 3, 2008, at 7:50 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:

Very strange, Sarah. It's definitely 2.9.0, Build 610. And I can't  
check the Mac OS box.


Joe Wilkins

On Apr 3, 2008, at 7:04 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote:

On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Joe Lewis Wilkins  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, I must be doing something else wrong, since the Build for:  
Mac OS
can't be set. Looks as if it could be, but can't be. And I'm  
running from

Leopard.


I haven't tried building, but I can check the Mac OS check box here
and I'm also running Leopard. Are you sure the correct version of Rev
is launched? 2.8 couldn't build for Mac Classic, so it has to be 2.9.

Sarah
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New Classic Standalone with 2.9.0

2008-04-03 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins



Hi all,

I just compiled a Classic Standalone using 2.9.0 with my very small HC  
stack (56k) that suddenly grew to 2.2 MB, and when transferred to a  
Mac G4 running 9.2.2, it produces an error dialog that says it cannot  
be opened due to a type -199 error. Rather disappointing; particularly  
since this is a very small stack with a number of fields and a few  
buttons, that just does a number of fairly elementary structural  
calculations. Nothing fancy at all.


The compiled standalone as an OSX Intel opens OK, and appears to work  
as it should, though it is 3.1 MB in size.


Just thought you'd like to know.

Joe Wilkins
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