Re: why does this not work and how do you do it?
OK, thanks, its now clear why the send to card doesn't work. But still, surely in the two object one script example, focus should work? That is, the only script on the card is from the very first example: on mouseUp ask think of a number if it is not a number then put empty into field Field focus on field Field else put it into field Field focus on field Field end if end mouseUp Focus not going to field in this case when you type in is a bug, yes? Peter -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/why-does-this-not-work-and-how-do-you-do-it--tp16593303p16625617.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Stack Translators
Richmond, isn't it a simply huge task to write a decent cross compiler? And there's the problem of picking a language to do the cross compile into? What do you pick - Python, Ruby, Lua? You notice even PythonCard didn't ever seriously consider imports from HC. And its not obviously in Rev's interest. And then, when you have it, how are you going to use it? Like all insurance, its going to sit there and wait for the day when an asteroid strikes Edinburgh. And that's when you'll find that oops, it doesn't quite work as well as we had thought it would It would be nice if it existed as insurance, but its a bit hard to see it happening. Surely the answer, if one is really worried about getting locked into Rev, is to move to something one is not worried about getting locked into? Or is the motivation quite different? In the Hypercard days, it was to run it on Windows. It was visible all along that getting locked not only into a programming language and an OS but also hardware from one particular vendor was a bit of a risky bet. But Rev is cross platform and on any old hardware, so its much safer, your only risk is a similar risk to any other language. After all, what happens if you picked Python, and the Pythonistas all one day move en masse to Ruby or whatever? Peter Richmond Mathewson wrote: I wondered whether a set of stacks that could convert RR stacks into 'compilables' for other computing languages might be useful. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Stack-Translators-tp16625279p16625881.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Rev cgi server and SSL
I have a web page that is secured by an SSL certificate. Users access it by going to https://mywebpage.html;. This page sends a cgi request (containing credit card information) to my MacMini server, located elsewhere. The server is not SSL protected. The credit card data is then processed via a Rev SSL routine to a secure payment gateway, then immediately discarded. Is there any security issues with this approach? Do I need to get an SSL certificate for the server? I've noticed that Firefox and Safari post a warning message when one hits the Submit button on the web page, saying that while the web page is secure, the data is being sent to a potentially unsafe location (presumably because the form is directed to an http address). Internet Explorer doesn't show any message. Would it be worthwhile to get an SSL certificate for the server? Thanks. Richard Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: File paths on a web server
Could you use AppleScript? That might get you out of the sandbox where the CGI is running. What is probably stopping you is that Apache typically is run by a different user than the current logged in user, for security purposes. tell application System Events set username to the current user's name return username end tell Hi All, I've run into this problem before and solved it with Ken Ray's help, but now (with Leopard) the old solution doesn't work. I need to find the name of the current user on the web server computer. The cgi stacks need to be able to find a file in the current user's public folder, but I can't get to it if I don't know the name of the user. I've tried my previous solution using the shell command who, but although who works fine in Terminal, it doesn't return anything when used in a CGI script. I've also tried whoami and even specialFolderPath(). Any ideas? I can't use a different file arrangement because that isn't mine to control. Cheers, Sarah --- Brian Yennie ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev cgi server and SSL
Browsers will warn of certificates they do not have in their repertoire. If you want to cater for the general population your best bet, to avoid the warnings, is to get a certificate from a known vendor (ie: known to the browsers). If the audience is limited, you can generate a certificate and get them to install it in their browsers. Cheers, Luis. On 11 Apr 2008, at 08:01, Richard Miller wrote: I have a web page that is secured by an SSL certificate. Users access it by going to https://mywebpage.html;. This page sends a cgi request (containing credit card information) to my MacMini server, located elsewhere. The server is not SSL protected. The credit card data is then processed via a Rev SSL routine to a secure payment gateway, then immediately discarded. Is there any security issues with this approach? Do I need to get an SSL certificate for the server? I've noticed that Firefox and Safari post a warning message when one hits the Submit button on the web page, saying that while the web page is secure, the data is being sent to a potentially unsafe location (presumably because the form is directed to an http address). Internet Explorer doesn't show any message. Would it be worthwhile to get an SSL certificate for the server? Thanks. Richard Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
Le 10 avr. 08 à 17:19, Thomas McGrath III a écrit : Ok, now that the 2.9 version has been out for a little while I need to know how many people are experiencing the Freeze while performing a Save problem (computer lock up with force restart the only way out). I can not use 2.9 at all since it now happens every time I go to save after writing some code. I have installed RR from scratch and repaired permissions on my HD and removed most extra preference panes etc. from my system and still have the instant freezes when saving with 2.9. This does NOT happen with 2.8 which I am using everyday. The same stacks will freeze in 2.9 but not in 2.8. How many people are experiencing this Freeze on Save??? I am using 2.9 daily ; I am experiencing this freeze when saving but not systematically, only from time to time (something like one or two times a day). Best regards from Grenoble André___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev cgi server and SSL
Hi Luis, I wish this was the problem, but I am using a very well known vendor one of the biggest on the Internet. Seems the problem lies with the sending to an http address. Richard On Apr 11, 2008, at 3:36 AM, Luis wrote: Browsers will warn of certificates they do not have in their repertoire. If you want to cater for the general population your best bet, to avoid the warnings, is to get a certificate from a known vendor (ie: known to the browsers). If the audience is limited, you can generate a certificate and get them to install it in their browsers. Cheers, Luis. On 11 Apr 2008, at 08:01, Richard Miller wrote: I have a web page that is secured by an SSL certificate. Users access it by going to https://mywebpage.html;. This page sends a cgi request (containing credit card information) to my MacMini server, located elsewhere. The server is not SSL protected. The credit card data is then processed via a Rev SSL routine to a secure payment gateway, then immediately discarded. Is there any security issues with this approach? Do I need to get an SSL certificate for the server? I've noticed that Firefox and Safari post a warning message when one hits the Submit button on the web page, saying that while the web page is secure, the data is being sent to a potentially unsafe location (presumably because the form is directed to an http address). Internet Explorer doesn't show any message. Would it be worthwhile to get an SSL certificate for the server? Thanks. Richard Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Re: Win Style Stack Resizer broken?
Hi Bill, its filed under number 6340. Regards, Claus. - original Nachricht Betreff: Re: Win Style Stack Resizer broken? Gesendet: So, 06. Apr 2008 Von: Bill Marriott[EMAIL PROTECTED] Yup, happens on Windows (but not Mac). Go ahead and file a report in RQCC :) New Mainstack Development - Object Library - Win Style Stack Resizer - Place Object (move mouse over placed graphic) error: executing at 2:20:59 PM Type cursor: can't find image Object Win Style Stack Resizer Line set cursor to the cWinCursor of me Hint 200308 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution --- original Nachricht Ende ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Stack Translators
Peter Alcibiades wrote: Rev is cross platform and on any old hardware Really? Must try it on an Iyonix running RISC OS 5! I don't know about Symbian OS . . . Any OLD hardware ??? Well, it cannot spit a standalone out for the Amiga I have (admittedly rotting in the attic in Scotland), nor many of the other pieces of old but not done-for stuff lying around schools just waiting to be used for some good. As the 'developed world' keeps being 'charitable' and dumping old machines on schools in supposedly less-developed countries this is not entirely as daft as it seems. Ooh; does Runtime Revolution produce standalones that will run on the $100 laptop ? Now I know that RR's argument is that to develop for RISC OS and so forth is not commercially viable (and they are, probably, right). However, consider the following: While PCs running RISC OS are a serious case of niche market, a vast number of embedded systems run RISC OS and use ARM processors. Therefore is might behoove some interested parties to look into the possibilities both of developing translators to turn RR code into code for funny machines with funny operating systems, and vice versa. My motivation is pretty near ground zero as I work with Macs and Ubuntu . . . mind you, if somebody were to lob me a RISC OS PC and a jolly good contract I would probably sit up and take notice very quickly indeed! I am fairly well locked into RR; however I have found that I can move to most O-O languages when the need arises - what I learnt in the past with HC and happy line-number languages have left me with sufficient transferable skills as to allow me to adapt fairly quickly. I would suspect that that is true of most users of RR. If you wish, you are free to read this as Richmond going through one of his bl**dy-minded patches; alternatively you could see that the old HC article might be making a point that is still relevant today. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. ___ Yahoo! For Good helps you make a difference http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev cgi server and SSL
What exactly do you mean by 'The server is not SSL protected.'? Is the certificate installed on the server? Apple Server Admin pdf - http://manuals.info.apple.com/en/Server_Administration_v10.5.pdf These might be of help: https://support.comodo.com/index.php? _m=knowledgebase_a=viewarticlekbarticleid=901nav=0,1 Nice background - http://www.afp548.com/Articles/web/sslcert.html Cheers, Luis. On 11 Apr 2008, at 09:03, Richard Miller wrote: Hi Luis, I wish this was the problem, but I am using a very well known vendor one of the biggest on the Internet. Seems the problem lies with the sending to an http address. Richard On Apr 11, 2008, at 3:36 AM, Luis wrote: Browsers will warn of certificates they do not have in their repertoire. If you want to cater for the general population your best bet, to avoid the warnings, is to get a certificate from a known vendor (ie: known to the browsers). If the audience is limited, you can generate a certificate and get them to install it in their browsers. Cheers, Luis. On 11 Apr 2008, at 08:01, Richard Miller wrote: I have a web page that is secured by an SSL certificate. Users access it by going to https://mywebpage.html;. This page sends a cgi request (containing credit card information) to my MacMini server, located elsewhere. The server is not SSL protected. The credit card data is then processed via a Rev SSL routine to a secure payment gateway, then immediately discarded. Is there any security issues with this approach? Do I need to get an SSL certificate for the server? I've noticed that Firefox and Safari post a warning message when one hits the Submit button on the web page, saying that while the web page is secure, the data is being sent to a potentially unsafe location (presumably because the form is directed to an http address). Internet Explorer doesn't show any message. Would it be worthwhile to get an SSL certificate for the server? Thanks. Richard Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev cgi server and SSL
There is no certificate on the server. I had not installed one and didn't think I needed to. The web page is secure and the connection from the server to the payment gateway is secure. I don't think there is actually a security issue here, but Firefox and Safari don't know this, so they report a potential problem (enough to scare customers). I could install a certificate on the server, but it's somewhat problematic because I already use the IP address of the server throughout several custom Rev programs. My understanding is that by installing a certificate on the server, I will not be able to refer to the server by its IP address, but would instead be forced to refer to it by a domain name (meaning, I'd have to change a lot of previous programming). I'd like to avoid that. Richard On Apr 11, 2008, at 4:55 AM, Luis wrote: What exactly do you mean by 'The server is not SSL protected.'? Is the certificate installed on the server? Apple Server Admin pdf - http://manuals.info.apple.com/en/Server_Administration_v10.5.pdf These might be of help: https://support.comodo.com/index.php? _m=knowledgebase_a=viewarticlekbarticleid=901nav=0,1 Nice background - http://www.afp548.com/Articles/web/sslcert.html Cheers, Luis. On 11 Apr 2008, at 09:03, Richard Miller wrote: Hi Luis, I wish this was the problem, but I am using a very well known vendor one of the biggest on the Internet. Seems the problem lies with the sending to an http address. Richard On Apr 11, 2008, at 3:36 AM, Luis wrote: Browsers will warn of certificates they do not have in their repertoire. If you want to cater for the general population your best bet, to avoid the warnings, is to get a certificate from a known vendor (ie: known to the browsers). If the audience is limited, you can generate a certificate and get them to install it in their browsers. Cheers, Luis. On 11 Apr 2008, at 08:01, Richard Miller wrote: I have a web page that is secured by an SSL certificate. Users access it by going to https://mywebpage.html;. This page sends a cgi request (containing credit card information) to my MacMini server, located elsewhere. The server is not SSL protected. The credit card data is then processed via a Rev SSL routine to a secure payment gateway, then immediately discarded. Is there any security issues with this approach? Do I need to get an SSL certificate for the server? I've noticed that Firefox and Safari post a warning message when one hits the Submit button on the web page, saying that while the web page is secure, the data is being sent to a potentially unsafe location (presumably because the form is directed to an http address). Internet Explorer doesn't show any message. Would it be worthwhile to get an SSL certificate for the server? Thanks. Richard Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Stack Translators
The 'Of course it runs BSD' cliche comes to mind. A lot of these old machines, and now a lot of embedded systems, can run Linux. The only difference is the CPU and however well the UI stuff degrades. Actually, I'm surprised that Rev Linux builds do not include Linux for PPC, of which all the 'major' distros have an option. I do like to make the most of old kit, but in some cases there is more time 'wasted' on something that may not reach completion. It's difficult to judge, but resources do become scarce. Salt to taste: What's the difference? http://news.squeak.org/ 2008/03/31/whats-the-difference/ Cheers, Luis. On 11 Apr 2008, at 10:30, Richmond Mathewson wrote: Peter Alcibiades wrote: Rev is cross platform and on any old hardware Really? Must try it on an Iyonix running RISC OS 5! I don't know about Symbian OS . . . Any OLD hardware ??? Well, it cannot spit a standalone out for the Amiga I have (admittedly rotting in the attic in Scotland), nor many of the other pieces of old but not done-for stuff lying around schools just waiting to be used for some good. As the 'developed world' keeps being 'charitable' and dumping old machines on schools in supposedly less-developed countries this is not entirely as daft as it seems. Ooh; does Runtime Revolution produce standalones that will run on the $100 laptop ? Now I know that RR's argument is that to develop for RISC OS and so forth is not commercially viable (and they are, probably, right). However, consider the following: While PCs running RISC OS are a serious case of niche market, a vast number of embedded systems run RISC OS and use ARM processors. Therefore is might behoove some interested parties to look into the possibilities both of developing translators to turn RR code into code for funny machines with funny operating systems, and vice versa. My motivation is pretty near ground zero as I work with Macs and Ubuntu . . . mind you, if somebody were to lob me a RISC OS PC and a jolly good contract I would probably sit up and take notice very quickly indeed! I am fairly well locked into RR; however I have found that I can move to most O-O languages when the need arises - what I learnt in the past with HC and happy line-number languages have left me with sufficient transferable skills as to allow me to adapt fairly quickly. I would suspect that that is true of most users of RR. If you wish, you are free to read this as Richmond going through one of his bl**dy-minded patches; alternatively you could see that the old HC article might be making a point that is still relevant today. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. ___ Yahoo! For Good helps you make a difference http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Problems with RevBrowser in palette window or drawer?
Hi all, can someone confirm that RevBrowser does not work (means nothing will be displayed, although no error or something occurs, the window is just empty) if opened in a palette window? Did not find a hint in the docs. I'm on OS X Leopard. I even tried the Rev browser example stack and opened the browser window as palette, same empty window. Then I tried to have a browser in a drawer, which did work in general but causes horrible redraw problems in the parent stack, and the drawer looks detached. But that might be a general drawer problem. Please don't tell me that drawers should be avoided anyway :-) Thanks in advance! Best Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: File paths on a web server
--- Sarah Reichelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I've run into this problem before and solved it with Ken Ray's help, but now (with Leopard) the old solution doesn't work. I need to find the name of the current user on the web server computer. The cgi stacks need to be able to find a file in the current user's public folder, but I can't get to it if I don't know the name of the user. I've tried my previous solution using the shell command who, but although who works fine in Terminal, it doesn't return anything when used in a CGI script. I've also tried whoami and even specialFolderPath(). Any ideas? I can't use a different file arrangement because that isn't mine to control. Cheers, Sarah The tricky part is that the cgi-engine is started from the Apache process, which in turn is running as the 'httpd' user - not the user currently logged on to your computer. This 'httpd' user has no home directory. I'm afraid you'll have to find a way to transfer the user id in your query, or read it from a configuration file in a fixed location. Hope this helped, Jan Schenkel. Quartam Reports PDF Library for Revolution http://www.quartam.com = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev GM1?
Mark You should be able to download it right from the RunRev site, since it is the current release version: https://www.runrev.com/downloads/free-trial/ If memory serves, I just downloaded the trial and then entered my own unlock code instead of the demo unlock code. Marian On Apr 10, 2008, at 10:46 PM, Mark Swindell wrote: I'm a currently paid-up customer who has been participating in the beta program all along. I never got a GM1 announcement or link for download. Is there a download site, or is it still by mail-out only? Thanks ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev cgi server and SSL
You'd need the certificate on the server: The browsers are complaining that the data is sent to a server that is not 'certified'. You could opt for clients to install the certificate as part of the list their browsers have (essentially 'approving' the server) or opt for 'Do not ask again' when they get the warning. You should still be able to refer to the server by its IP address, this is what the Domain will resolve to anyway, so there needn't be a need to change your code. I'd got the Domain name route: This will cover you in case your server's IP address changes in the future. Cheers, Luis. On 11 Apr 2008, at 11:52, Richard Miller wrote: There is no certificate on the server. I had not installed one and didn't think I needed to. The web page is secure and the connection from the server to the payment gateway is secure. I don't think there is actually a security issue here, but Firefox and Safari don't know this, so they report a potential problem (enough to scare customers). I could install a certificate on the server, but it's somewhat problematic because I already use the IP address of the server throughout several custom Rev programs. My understanding is that by installing a certificate on the server, I will not be able to refer to the server by its IP address, but would instead be forced to refer to it by a domain name (meaning, I'd have to change a lot of previous programming). I'd like to avoid that. Richard On Apr 11, 2008, at 4:55 AM, Luis wrote: What exactly do you mean by 'The server is not SSL protected.'? Is the certificate installed on the server? Apple Server Admin pdf - http://manuals.info.apple.com/en/Server_Administration_v10.5.pdf These might be of help: https://support.comodo.com/index.php? _m=knowledgebase_a=viewarticlekbarticleid=901nav=0,1 Nice background - http://www.afp548.com/Articles/web/sslcert.html Cheers, Luis. On 11 Apr 2008, at 09:03, Richard Miller wrote: Hi Luis, I wish this was the problem, but I am using a very well known vendor one of the biggest on the Internet. Seems the problem lies with the sending to an http address. Richard On Apr 11, 2008, at 3:36 AM, Luis wrote: Browsers will warn of certificates they do not have in their repertoire. If you want to cater for the general population your best bet, to avoid the warnings, is to get a certificate from a known vendor (ie: known to the browsers). If the audience is limited, you can generate a certificate and get them to install it in their browsers. Cheers, Luis. On 11 Apr 2008, at 08:01, Richard Miller wrote: I have a web page that is secured by an SSL certificate. Users access it by going to https://mywebpage.html;. This page sends a cgi request (containing credit card information) to my MacMini server, located elsewhere. The server is not SSL protected. The credit card data is then processed via a Rev SSL routine to a secure payment gateway, then immediately discarded. Is there any security issues with this approach? Do I need to get an SSL certificate for the server? I've noticed that Firefox and Safari post a warning message when one hits the Submit button on the web page, saying that while the web page is secure, the data is being sent to a potentially unsafe location (presumably because the form is directed to an http address). Internet Explorer doesn't show any message. Would it be worthwhile to get an SSL certificate for the server? Thanks. Richard Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and
Re: Rev GM1?
Thanks. I tried that but my old code didn't work. Heather sent me a new one this morning. Mark On Apr 11, 2008, at 4:18 AM, Petrides, M.D. Marian wrote: Mark You should be able to download it right from the RunRev site, since it is the current release version: https://www.runrev.com/downloads/free-trial/ If memory serves, I just downloaded the trial and then entered my own unlock code instead of the demo unlock code. Marian On Apr 10, 2008, at 10:46 PM, Mark Swindell wrote: I'm a currently paid-up customer who has been participating in the beta program all along. I never got a GM1 announcement or link for download. Is there a download site, or is it still by mail-out only? Thanks ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Thanks, Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: why does this not work and how do you do it?
Peter Acibiades wrote: on mouseUp ask think of a number I knew Revolution is was clever but is it also telepathic? ;.) Best regards Barry ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: problem with drag-dropping a text string
I still can't get it to work. Jacque, thanks for the tip about the allowableDragActions -- that makes the copy vs move part work reliably. But no matter what I do I can't set the dragdata (or the dragdata[text]) to a modified text string and get it to drop into the target field. I've tried transforming the text in a dragStart handler per Eric's suggestion and setting the dragdata then, I've tried doing it in a dragEnter in the target field script. I even tried using a global, myDragData, that is set in the drag start and then in the dragenter handler I set the dragdata[text] to myDragData. All fail. No matter what I do I have not been able to *set* the dragData or the dragData[text] to any string and have it actually drop that string into my target field. It's acting as though the 'set the dragData...' command is ignored no matter where I try to do it. Also, an empty dragDrop handler in the target field blocks the drop. Doesn't this mean that the dragDrop message is sent *before* the drop? So it still seems to me that if I could set the dragData at all, I ought to be able to do it in the dragDrop handler in the target field. Well, I'll take a look at the tutorial on the subject when I get a moment (I already have a full-time non-rev job...). Could someone try setting the dragData[text] to finally got it to work! and give me a recipe? Peter M. Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] J. Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric Chatonet wrote: Sounds better to set all this in a dragStart handler: on dragStart set the dragImage to ID [set the dragImageOffset to point] set the dragData[type] to data end dragStart In your case: set the dragData[text] to Transform(the dragData[text]) -- specific function That didn't work either until I remembered to set the allowableDragActions. Then it worked. Peter, try that. I was getting bizarre results too until I remembered to set that property in a dragStart handler. It's a new keyword as of 2.9. One thing I noticed. If I set the allowableDragActions to move,copy (the example in the docs) or copy,move it will only move text, even if the target field sets the dragaction to copy. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com Peter M. Brigham wrote: I am trying to modify the dragdata before a text string is dropped, and it's not working, so I must be doing something wrong. The idea is for the user to select some text from one field (unlocked), and drag it to to a target field (unlocked), and I want to insert a tab in place of a space in the text and drop the modified text into the target field. Both fields are in the same group on the same card. Here's my script (in the target field): on dragDrop set the dragaction to copy put the dragData into mLine -- works fine, so does using the 'dragData[text]' set the itemdelimiter to tab put item 2 of mLine into mChunk put length(word 1 of mChunk) into w put tab into char w+1 of mChunk put mChunk into item 2 of mLine set the dragdata to mLine -- set the dragdata[text] to mLine -- I tried this too pass dragDrop end dragDrop There are no other handlers in the script, and no other dragdrop handlers in the group, card, or stack scripts. The original selected text is dropped without modification into the target field. The dragDrop handler is getting triggered, since setting a breakpoint and doing the drag-drop opens up the script in the debugger, and the data is manipulated correctly as I step through the script, so at the end mLine contains the proper string -- but the original string is what appears in the target field, even when I substitute 'set the dragdata to something inane'. So the command 'set the dragData to...' is being ignored, apparently. I tried instead modifying the dragdata in a dragStart handler in the starting field, but it seems that the dragdata is not yet set at that point, since put the dragdata into mLine shows mLine = empty in the debugger, which doesn't really make sense -- shouldn't the engine know by that point what the dragdata is? I tried putting a 'wait 25 millisecs with messages' line just after setting the dragdata, before passing the dragdrop, figuring maybe setting the dragdata property takes a little time for some reason (but why should it?) -- still no go. Uh oh, another problem -- suddenly, setting the dragAction to copy now doesn't work. I swear it was working before. I just tried setting the dragaction in a dragstart handler and in a dragleave handler in the starting field, as well as in the dragdrop handler in the target field, but in all cases the text is moved instead of being copied, unless of course I hold down the optionkey. I *swear* it was working properly before...! Oh -- the problem is the wait with messages command that I just put in -- this apparently allows the dragaction to reset to none. When I take out the wait
Hardcopy documentation for 2.9
I have a few questions about the hardcopy documentation for 2.9 that I hope one of you can answer: 1. Is it available right now or just preorder? How long will delivery to a US address take? 2. Is it simply a hardcopy printout of the User Guide PDF that comes with 2.9? or does it include a Transcript Dictionary, too? 3. Is there an easy way to print out the Transcript Dictionary, the way you can print out the PDF of the User Guide? Thanks. Marian ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Keeping Entered Text in a Standalone and Application Icons
1. I have two really basic questions. I have used Rev for quite some time, but the standalones I created were fine as read-onlys because I didn't need the users to enter text that they would need to see the next time they launched the application. I know it's a simple question, but how do I make a standalone that will save the user's entries in a field so that they will be in the field the next time the application is launched? I want the user to enter data that will be saved for later. But I don't even know how to make a standalone that could be used as a journal! 2. I have a baseball game. I have a picture of a baseball. I want to make an application icon for Mac and Windows standalones. What is an easy way to do this simple thing? Is there a freeware program? Thanks, Tom in Arizona ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Hardcopy documentation for 2.9
Hi Marian, I think very few of us know the answers to these questions. Perhaps you should write to support and let us know the answer? Thanks, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 11-apr-2008, om 17:12 heeft Marian Petrides, M.D. het volgende geschreven: I have a few questions about the hardcopy documentation for 2.9 that I hope one of you can answer: 1. Is it available right now or just preorder? How long will delivery to a US address take? 2. Is it simply a hardcopy printout of the User Guide PDF that comes with 2.9? or does it include a Transcript Dictionary, too? 3. Is there an easy way to print out the Transcript Dictionary, the way you can print out the PDF of the User Guide? Thanks. Marian ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: problem with drag-dropping a text string
Hi Peter, I just made the experiment by selecting a chunk of text in an unlocked field and setting the dragData[text] to a different value in a dragStart handler. When dropping it in Rev or in another application the result was the one I expected, i.e. the text I had set by script. Difficult to tell you what you probably miss without having more details ;-) Le 11 avr. 08 à 16:29, Peter Brigham a écrit : I still can't get it to work. Jacque, thanks for the tip about the allowableDragActions -- that makes the copy vs move part work reliably. But no matter what I do I can't set the dragdata (or the dragdata[text]) to a modified text string and get it to drop into the target field. I've tried transforming the text in a dragStart handler per Eric's suggestion and setting the dragdata then, I've tried doing it in a dragEnter in the target field script. I even tried using a global, myDragData, that is set in the drag start and then in the dragenter handler I set the dragdata[text] to myDragData. All fail. No matter what I do I have not been able to *set* the dragData or the dragData[text] to any string and have it actually drop that string into my target field. It's acting as though the 'set the dragData...' command is ignored no matter where I try to do it. Also, an empty dragDrop handler in the target field blocks the drop. Doesn't this mean that the dragDrop message is sent *before* the drop? So it still seems to me that if I could set the dragData at all, I ought to be able to do it in the dragDrop handler in the target field. Well, I'll take a look at the tutorial on the subject when I get a moment (I already have a full-time non-rev job...). Could someone try setting the dragData[text] to finally got it to work! and give me a recipe? Peter M. Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] J. Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric Chatonet wrote: Sounds better to set all this in a dragStart handler: on dragStart set the dragImage to ID [set the dragImageOffset to point] set the dragData[type] to data end dragStart In your case: set the dragData[text] to Transform(the dragData[text]) -- specific function That didn't work either until I remembered to set the allowableDragActions. Then it worked. Peter, try that. I was getting bizarre results too until I remembered to set that property in a dragStart handler. It's a new keyword as of 2.9. One thing I noticed. If I set the allowableDragActions to move,copy (the example in the docs) or copy,move it will only move text, even if the target field sets the dragaction to copy. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com Peter M. Brigham wrote: I am trying to modify the dragdata before a text string is dropped, and it's not working, so I must be doing something wrong. The idea is for the user to select some text from one field (unlocked), and drag it to to a target field (unlocked), and I want to insert a tab in place of a space in the text and drop the modified text into the target field. Both fields are in the same group on the same card. Here's my script (in the target field): on dragDrop set the dragaction to copy put the dragData into mLine -- works fine, so does using the 'dragData[text]' set the itemdelimiter to tab put item 2 of mLine into mChunk put length(word 1 of mChunk) into w put tab into char w+1 of mChunk put mChunk into item 2 of mLine set the dragdata to mLine -- set the dragdata[text] to mLine -- I tried this too pass dragDrop end dragDrop There are no other handlers in the script, and no other dragdrop handlers in the group, card, or stack scripts. The original selected text is dropped without modification into the target field. The dragDrop handler is getting triggered, since setting a breakpoint and doing the drag-drop opens up the script in the debugger, and the data is manipulated correctly as I step through the script, so at the end mLine contains the proper string -- but the original string is what appears in the target field, even when I substitute 'set the dragdata to something inane'. So the command 'set the dragData to...' is being ignored, apparently. I tried instead modifying the dragdata in a dragStart handler in the starting field, but it seems that the dragdata is not yet set at that point, since put the dragdata into mLine shows mLine = empty in the debugger, which doesn't really make sense -- shouldn't the engine know by that point what the dragdata is? I tried putting a 'wait 25 millisecs with messages' line just after setting the dragdata, before passing the dragdrop, figuring maybe setting the dragdata property takes a little time for some reason (but why should it?) -- still no go. Uh oh, another problem -- suddenly, setting the dragAction to copy now doesn't work. I swear it was working before. I just tried setting the dragaction in a
Re: Keeping Entered Text in a Standalone and Application Icons
Recently, Tom Cole wrote: how do I make a standalone that will save the user's entries in a field so that they will be in the field the next time the application is launched? I want the user to enter data that will be saved for later. But I don't even know how to make a standalone that could be used as a journal! Since you cannot save changes to the standalone itself, you either need to use the splash screen approach when building your standalone and keep your data stack separate from the engine, or save your users' data to external file -- text file or stack. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Hardcopy documentation for 2.9
On 11 Apr 2008, at 17:12, Marian Petrides, M.D. wrote: 3. Is there an easy way to print out the Transcript Dictionary, the way you can print out the PDF of the User Guide? I don't know about 1 and 2, but you can easily make a printing script on top of my documentation reader, to create the dictionary as pdf, or print it. For example (untested): on mouseUp repeat with x = 1 to the number of lines in field list of stack bvg docu set the hilitedline of field list of stack bvg docu to x send selectionchanged to field list of stack bvg docu put the htmltext of field text of stack bvg docu after theText end repeat revPrintText theText --or whatever end mouseUp Note that you need lots of time, as well as a tree's worth of paper to print onto (best to test it first with just few entries in the field list). BvG Docu can be found on my page: bjoernke.com/runrev/stacks.php have fun Björnke -- official ChatRev page: http://chatrev.bjoernke.com Chat with other RunRev developers: go stack URL http://homepage.mac.com/bvg/chatrev1.3.rev; ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Hardcopy documentation for 2.9
Thanks! On Apr 11, 2008, at 10:39 AM, Björnke von Gierke wrote: On 11 Apr 2008, at 17:12, Marian Petrides, M.D. wrote: 3. Is there an easy way to print out the Transcript Dictionary, the way you can print out the PDF of the User Guide? I don't know about 1 and 2, but you can easily make a printing script on top of my documentation reader, to create the dictionary as pdf, or print it. For example (untested): on mouseUp repeat with x = 1 to the number of lines in field list of stack bvg docu set the hilitedline of field list of stack bvg docu to x send selectionchanged to field list of stack bvg docu put the htmltext of field text of stack bvg docu after theText end repeat revPrintText theText --or whatever end mouseUp Note that you need lots of time, as well as a tree's worth of paper to print onto (best to test it first with just few entries in the field list). BvG Docu can be found on my page: bjoernke.com/runrev/stacks.php have fun Björnke -- official ChatRev page: http://chatrev.bjoernke.com Chat with other RunRev developers: go stack URL http://homepage.mac.com/bvg/chatrev1.3.rev; ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Display non ASCII font names in a menu.
Hi all, I wish to show non ASCII font names into a font selection menu. Does anybody have an idea on how to do that? And if yes, how? Regards, Damien ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev GM1?
Revolution 2.9 shipped officially on April 4th. Everyone in our database was sent a notification. If you needed a new serial number, it was enclosed with the mailing. If you had an active update pack, you received a download link. If you had not purchased yet, you received a sales pitch :) The beta tester database is a separate list, and it's possible if you never requested a trial version and were only a beta tester, you did not receive a GM1 announcement. We are actually working on a wrap up mail for the beta test list, hopefully to go out sometime next week. - Bill ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Display non ASCII font names in a menu.
Hi Damien, This is Japanese sample. go stack url http://www.kenjikojima.com/runrev/handbook/download/JpnFontmenu.rev Kenji Kojima On Apr 11, 2008, at 12:06 PM, GIRARD Damien wrote: Hi all, I wish to show non ASCII font names into a font selection menu. Does anybody have an idea on how to do that? And if yes, how? Regards, Damien ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Hardcopy documentation for 2.9
Marian Petrides, M.D. wrote: Thanks! On Apr 11, 2008, at 10:39 AM, Björnke von Gierke wrote: On 11 Apr 2008, at 17:12, Marian Petrides, M.D. wrote: 3. Is there an easy way to print out the Transcript Dictionary, the way you can print out the PDF of the User Guide? Be cautious. I think when you print out all the docs it comes to thousands and thousands of pages. You may be at it for a week, and will have to hover over your printer all that time in order to replace the paper at intervals. Tread carefully... -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Display non ASCII font names in a menu.
Hi Kenji Kojima, Thanks, I am looking forward. Note: Revolution lost my french keymap when I open your stack. (Rev bug.) Damien Kenji Kojima a écrit : Hi Damien, This is Japanese sample. go stack url http://www.kenjikojima.com/runrev/handbook/download/JpnFontmenu.rev; Kenji Kojima On Apr 11, 2008, at 12:06 PM, GIRARD Damien wrote: Hi all, I wish to show non ASCII font names into a font selection menu. Does anybody have an idea on how to do that? And if yes, how? Regards, Damien ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: problem with drag-dropping a text string
Peter Brigham wrote: Could someone try setting the dragData[text] to finally got it to work! and give me a recipe? I was able to do it with a single dragStart handler in the source field. No handlers in the target field were required. on dragStart set the allowableDragActions to copy set the dragData[text] to got it to work! end dragStart That's all it needs in my simple test, which is just a blank stack with two unlocked fields. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Hardcopy documentation for 2.9
Thanks for the tip Jackie. Well, I successfully printed out all 400 pages of the User Guide-- although single-sided is going to be a binding nightmare ? 3 or 4 volumes?. However, given your cautionary note, I may hold off on printing the Transcript Dictionary for now. Heather told me that RunRev is coming up with a PDF and hardcopy version of the Transcript Dictionary once the User Guide is out (it's at the printer now) and I have an older version of the dictionary (the one that goes with 2.1 or 2.2) to tide me over for now. M On Apr 11, 2008, at 12:24 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Marian Petrides, M.D. wrote: Thanks! On Apr 11, 2008, at 10:39 AM, Björnke von Gierke wrote: On 11 Apr 2008, at 17:12, Marian Petrides, M.D. wrote: 3. Is there an easy way to print out the Transcript Dictionary, the way you can print out the PDF of the User Guide? Be cautious. I think when you print out all the docs it comes to thousands and thousands of pages. You may be at it for a week, and will have to hover over your printer all that time in order to replace the paper at intervals. Tread carefully... -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: why does this not work and how do you do it?
Peter Alcibiades wrote: OK, thanks, its now clear why the send to card doesn't work. But still, surely in the two object one script example, focus should work? That is, the only script on the card is from the very first example: on mouseUp ask think of a number if it is not a number then put empty into field Field focus on field Field else put it into field Field focus on field Field end if end mouseUp Focus not going to field in this case when you type in is a bug, yes? Probably, since it works fine here on Mac OS X. Apparently it's a Linux bug. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Hardcopy documentation for 2.9
Petrides, M.D. Marian wrote: Heather told me that RunRev is coming up with a PDF and hardcopy version of the Transcript Dictionary once the User Guide is out (it's at the printer now) He's probably trying to figure out how to bind all the paper together. :) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
SQLite database file from third-party sources?
Hello, I am unable to access SQLite databases from third-party sources. Has anyone ever been able to use an SQLite database file that was not created by the SQLite external for Revolution? If you were successful, was there a special trick to make this work and which version of the external and which version of Revolution did you use? Best regards, Mark Schonewille -- Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz A large collection of scripts for HyperCard, Revolution, SuperCard and other programming languages can be found at http://runrev.info ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: SQLite database file from third-party sources?
On 11 Apr 2008, at 18:56, Mark Schonewille wrote: I am unable to access SQLite databases from third-party sources. Has anyone ever been able to use an SQLite database file that was not created by the SQLite external for Revolution? If you were successful, was there a special trick to make this work and which version of the external and which version of Revolution did you use? I do this all the time with Aperture's DB, but only reading data. Rev 2.7 and newer, whatever version of the external is in the default install. OS X, not tried on Windows or Linux. Ian ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: SQLite database file from third-party sources?
Thanks for the reply, Ian. Would it be possible to send me a small sample database, which hasn't been touched by Rev? Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 11-apr-2008, om 20:11 heeft Ian Wood het volgende geschreven: I do this all the time with Aperture's DB, but only reading data. Rev 2.7 and newer, whatever version of the external is in the default install. OS X, not tried on Windows or Linux. Ian ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Keeping Entered Text in a Standalone and Application Icons
Hi Tom, Tom Cole wrote: 2. I have a baseball game. I have a picture of a baseball. I want to make an application icon for Mac and Windows standalones. What is an easy way to do this simple thing? Is there a freeware program? Thanks, Tom in Arizona Check out the It's almost that time thread on this list in recent days. That will probably answer all your questions about icon software. -- Phil Davis PDS Labs Professional Software Development http://pdslabs.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev cgi server and SSL
Richard- Aside from the technical issues, if I were on the customer side of things and in the middle of processing a credit card transaction my browser gave me a security warning, I would immediately abort the process and never go back, resulting in a lost sale for you and your client. -- Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
SQLite database file from third-party sources?
Yes, I made an sqlite database using both sqlitebrowser and also the firefox plugin sqlite manager. Both were super easy, but the firefox plug in is a lot faster, it did 15k records in a flash, whereas squlite browser choked. I imported a tab delimited file to sqlite. Saved it. Then I connected to it. This was from one of the 2.9 linux betas. Connection seemed OK. I didn't try queries or adds, just wanted to verify connection. The db had never been touched by Rev until the connection was set up. This is Debian Lenny, pretty much up to date. Around the same time there was a correspondence about how tab delimited files and custom properties or arrays were as good or better, and I thought OK they are going to be a lot faster and easier to write. So didn't pursue it further. Did you have trouble with queries after it reported the connection was made? Or could you not get it to make the connection? Peter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: SQLite database file from third-party sources?
I created my SQLite database with SQLite Manager and access it all the time. On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 2:15 PM, Mark Schonewille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the reply, Ian. Would it be possible to send me a small sample database, which hasn't been touched by Rev? Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 11-apr-2008, om 20:11 heeft Ian Wood het volgende geschreven: I do this all the time with Aperture's DB, but only reading data. Rev 2.7 and newer, whatever version of the external is in the default install. OS X, not tried on Windows or Linux. Ian ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.bluewatermaritime.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Why doesn't start using work?
Thanks for the suggestion of answer the result that is better then what I was doing to check things. My call is on pre-open and that seems not to be where I should put it. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
'answer (there is a file it)' returns false after selecting a file
Had to give up a project a couple months ago that was being derailed by a Rev bug that had no workaround. Was wondering if anyone can tell me if this is fixed in 2.9. In the message window, I type the following answer file The prompt... answer (there is a file it) This returns false if the file name contains certain extended ASCII characters, such as the Czech Ř (R with caron) or Ů (U with ring above) or Polish Ł (L with stroke). Can anyone confirm that this bug still exists in 2.9? It is a deal-breaker. Thanks. Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 'answer (there is a file it)' returns false after selecting a file
Hi Mark, No, this problem has not been fixed on Mac OS X. This is no reason the give up on a project. You could use AppleScript on Mac OS X and shortFilePath() on Windows. Replacing so many routines with AppleScript is no fun, but it is possible. On Windows, it is just a sight inconvenience. Has this bug been reported? Which number does it have? Best regards, Mark Schonewille -- Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz A large collection of scripts for HyperCard, Revolution, SuperCard and other programming languages can be found at http://runrev.info On 12 apr 2008, at 01:25, Mark E. Powell wrote: Had to give up a project a couple months ago that was being derailed by a Rev bug that had no workaround. Was wondering if anyone can tell me if this is fixed in 2.9. In the message window, I type the following answer file The prompt... answer (there is a file it) This returns false if the file name contains certain extended ASCII characters, such as the Czech Ř (R with caron) or Ů (U with ring above) or Polish Ł (L with stroke). Can anyone confirm that this bug still exists in 2.9? It is a deal- breaker. Thanks. Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Keeping Entered Text in a Standalone and Application Icons
1. I have two really basic questions. I have used Rev for quite some time, but the standalones I created were fine as read-onlys because I didn't need the users to enter text that they would need to see the next time they launched the application. I know it's a simple question, but how do I make a standalone that will save the user's entries in a field so that they will be in the field the next time the application is launched? I want the user to enter data that will be saved for later. But I don't even know how to make a standalone that could be used as a journal! You might find this article useful http://www.revjournal.com/tutorials/saving_data_in_revolution.html. It's been a while since I wrote it, but the techniques are still valid. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: File paths on a web server
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Brian Yennie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could you use AppleScript? That might get you out of the sandbox where the CGI is running. What is probably stopping you is that Apache typically is run by a different user than the current logged in user, for security purposes. tell application System Events set username to the current user's name return username end tell Thanks Brian, I'll give that a go. The other possibility that occurred to me was to list all the folders in /Users to get a list of the users on that computer, then check the Public folder of each to see which contained the files folders I needed. Then I could save that data to a preference file and update it any time the correct files could not be found. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 'answer (there is a file it)' returns false after selecting a file
Appreciate the response. How do I get the real file name using shortFilePath()? I understand I can address the given file that way, but I need to report its actual file name. This is no reason the give up on a project. You could use AppleScript on Mac OS X and shortFilePath() on Windows. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Feature Request Posted
Howdy List: After years of needing this feature in Revolution, I thought it would be worthwhile to formally request it on Rev's QCC: Extend Icon/Image References to Include Binary Data in Custom Properties http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=6375 Please vote if you feel this feature worthy (and I hope you do). Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
On Apr 10, 2008, at 11:19 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: How many people are experiencing this Freeze on Save??? I have not seen the problem on my computer. But, my cohort Hans has the problem every day he works in Rev. We have found that saving his work in GLX 2 is the most reliable form of saving. The problem only happens when he does command - S which uses Rev's saving routines. In most cases, it brings his entire system down forcing him to force shutdown his computer. Not a happy moment when this happens after a long coding session. Luckily he has not lost much work due to diligent saving in GLX 2. Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Feature Request Posted
Done. Good idea. Phil Davis Scott Rossi wrote: Howdy List: After years of needing this feature in Revolution, I thought it would be worthwhile to formally request it on Rev's QCC: Extend Icon/Image References to Include Binary Data in Custom Properties http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=6375 Please vote if you feel this feature worthy (and I hope you do). Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design -- Phil Davis PDS Labs Professional Software Development http://pdslabs.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Problems with RevBrowser in palette window or drawer?
Hi Klaus - I seem to recall that altBrowser wouldn't work with palettes on OSX. I guess that's still the case. Terry... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Klaus Major Sent: Fri 4/11/2008 7:34 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Problems with RevBrowser in palette window or drawer? Hi all, can someone confirm that RevBrowser does not work (means nothing will be displayed, although no error or something occurs, the window is just empty) if opened in a palette window? Did not find a hint in the docs. I'm on OS X Leopard. I even tried the Rev browser example stack and opened the browser window as palette, same empty window. Then I tried to have a browser in a drawer, which did work in general but causes horrible redraw problems in the parent stack, and the drawer looks detached. But that might be a general drawer problem. Please don't tell me that drawers should be avoided anyway :-) Thanks in advance! Best Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Feature Request Posted
Oh Boy! we need this: I put in 5 votes out my hundred. Great idea. Only caveat: I sometimes change the appearance of a given instance by resetting the size of the original image in the hidden library... on one card the same icon for a button may be 40 pixels tall, and then on another, 500 pixels tall... but there is only a single image in my hidden image library card, and I do this by dynamically changing the size of that hidden image, just before showing it on screen. Each image has a custom prop that contains its native original size.. (I always bring them in big and secondary instances are smaller versions) I would have to noodle how to do that if the image were a binary string in a custom prop. But at any rate, there's no question this would such a useful feature. Sivakatirswami Phil Davis wrote: Done. Good idea. Phil Davis Scott Rossi wrote: Howdy List: After years of needing this feature in Revolution, I thought it would be worthwhile to formally request it on Rev's QCC: Extend Icon/Image References to Include Binary Data in Custom Properties http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=6375 Please vote if you feel this feature worthy (and I hope you do). Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Bug? Rev app creates invisible files?
I can verify this with a lot more frequency (finder bug): in fact the immediate non-appearance of files in the finder has become so common place in my work flows that I no longer regard it as a problem... I think of it more like it's a little kid who is hiding behind the bushes for a bit, but will come out when he gets tired of not getting attention... photoshop batch processing, Indesign Creo/Kodak Postscript exports, Distiller hot folders driving PDF generation... processing AIFF to ACC in itunes...Version Cue etc. output is very often invisible until the finder snaps out of it... ...then all the kids show up... this happens locally and more egregiously over the network on mounted volumes--which is more understandable, but none the less disconcerting for some. Blink, Gee! it didn't work... (I get a support call..) Oh Wait! never mind, its there now...sorry to bother you... Richard Gaskin wrote: FWIW, I have seen some rare cases where new files on the Desktop aren't visible in OS X, and I've found I can make them visible by tickling the Finder by trying to create either another file or a folder with the same name -- then the Finder will give me That name is already used warning, and the previously invisible file becomes visible. But I can't recall which programs I've seen this with. Maybe it was just Rev/MC, but I believe this has also happened with a couple others. It's been very rare, and I haven't been able to come up with a recipe for reproducing it reliably. Whatever the cause, I believe this is a bug in the Finder rather than Rev. I could be wrong; if it was limited to just Rev maybe there's something about the way they're using the API that isn't kosher. But I suspect if that were the case the problem would be more consistently evident, and in my experience it's very, very rare (may three times over as many years). ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: good Rev demos
Colin: go to http://www.hinduismtoday.com/digital/ subscribe (its free) and download the Digital Edition of Hinduism Today. The site is a very retro 1997 design (we are working on that... will be launching a new site later this year) but Hinduism Today Digital Edition (HTDE) rocks for those who a) are willing to install an executable b) have the bandwidth Of course this app is not content, in and of itself, it's a content delivery system, so if your Flash crowd are purely creative and not interested in the big picture then, like Mark says, they may just shrug The whole thing is Revolution from end to end-- (well almost, the back end subscription dBase is PostGreSQL--but CGI that handle registration, delivery, the executable that is installed etc. is all Revolution. The must run in a browser sentiment is softening. In fact, the conventional wisdom now is: if you *can* get users to download an executable, its *way* better that they have a sticky application on the client machine that locks in your users in a way that a regular web site can never do...there's a growing segment of web users who are pretty sick of the info glut and are happy to be able to go off line and use your sticky app that is focus on a single content theme instead of staring at a 4 column web page with 150 links squeezed onto a single screen. So, both are important elements in an enterprise delivery system. At any rate... I really don't think that building the same HTDE app in Flash would even be remotely possible in any reasonable time frame. The beauty of it is: You are working in a single language across the entire framework (minus a few shell calls to do the PostGreSQL queries... i.e. you do need to know a bit of SQL talk..) Andre recently ramped up the Media Viewer stack in HTDE... the UI that is generate by the executable is installed on the client machine, but when you click on View Multi-media you get a stack downloaded over the net, and it then in turn downloads another small data base stack with all the meta data for the media viewer. I believe others are doing similar things and are in fact way ahead of us... but, it works... Again, this is a delivery framework... not content as such... so its a different animal ... but shows possibilities. b) Colin Holgate wrote: At 4:18 PM +0200 4/10/08, Björnke von Gierke wrote: I still think you should specify your demand a bit more, as just asking for every rev application on the planet is not a good way to get information about those that you actually want. I think I have enough leads now! It is a bit abstract a request, I know, but I want to show things that are both not a stereotypical HyperCard like stack, and not something that a Flash person would say oh I could do that in about 10 minutes in Flash. The more like a standard OSX app they look the better, because even if you could do something on those lines in Flash, it would no doubt have that Flash-like feel to it, enough to not feel like a real application. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Feature Request Posted
Recently, Sivakatirswami wrote: Oh Boy! we need this: I put in 5 votes out my hundred. Great idea. Many thanks for your vote. Only caveat: I sometimes change the appearance of a given instance by resetting the size of the original image in the hidden library... ... I would have to noodle how to do that if the image were a binary string in a custom prop. The feature request calls for *adding* the ability to reference binary image data, not replacing the existing image referencing features. You would not have to change anything in your scripts. Regardless, if I understand your explanation, I believe you'll get the same result if the lockLoc of your target image is true. If your target object is something other than an image, you're SOL, thus the feature request. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
saving all open stacks in standalone
I want to save all the stacks that are open in a standalone. These are separate stack files, not substacks. What syntax needs to be changed to make the following work? if theKey is Q then put the stacks into saveUsAll repeat with x = 1 to the number of lines of saveUsAll save stack (line x of saveUsAll) end repeat quit end if Thanks, Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
