Beta testers who get nothing . . .
Well I tested the 2.9 Beta at quite a considerable cost in time to myself, and with my extant licence for RevMedia 2.7.1 expected some sort of acknowledgement. But it was not to be. Pity really. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. ___ Yahoo! For Good helps you make a difference http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: copyright infringement question
Not a lawyer either (although ended up in court too many times), nor a commercial software developer - so take what I say with a grain of salt, but basically with Richard and Chipp on this one. How do you think the Japanese go so good at making cars; by buying examples of the competition and driving, examining and testing them to the very limits, and then deciding where to do it better (and probably cheaper). First reliability, then handling, then performance and finally style - but lets face it, most cars either have a twin or a triplet these days, you know exactly which make/model is competing with which make/model. I think it really comes down to how you approach it, the Japanese way (very generalized term here - don't mean to offend anyone) to examine, study and then say OK, let's build a better gearbox, better engine and better air conditioner. Then there is the pirate option; OK lets copy this gearbox, engine and air conditioner using cheap material and labour. I do find this statement from Richard a little surprising, especially considering another recent post: On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:22 PM, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But as a software designer, my only question about reverse engineering would be, Why bother? Software is expensive to write, and the only software worth writing is that which hasn't been written before. It's almost always more cost-effective to simply buy an existing software than to reproduce it. I would think GLX2 is a perfect example. Gee it has a script field just like Rev's; has Run, Trace and Step just like Rev's; script colourization and a Handler menu just like Rev's; and blimey, Rev's is FREE and you want me to pay money for GLX2. Yet there is clearly a large number of people on this list who vote with their wallet. I may be wrong, and Jerry will probably correct me, but I imagine it is an intimate knowledge of all that is wrong with the Rev script editor; plus an excellent knowledge/focus on efficiency, that makes GLX2 such a compelling product. So has Rev taken legal action against Jerry? Of course the other argument could be that there may be a hundred Win examples out there, but none for the Mac. So again, IMHO, having a look at the best of the Win products to aggregate the best of the best would seem to be a very sensible path to maximize the chance of developing a successful Mac version. I don't know who said know thy enemy, but I think it applies in this case: which I think is what Richard was really getting at; know, not copy; improve, not repeat; understand, not underestimate. My 0.08 cents and worth less every day. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: This has to be easy! Tell a program not to open a file
Thanks, Sarah. Although that's a security crater, it is also kind of a relief as I don't need to change much in my installer projects. For other projects, I'll have to come up with fancy names like GoinStallUrPC. Feel free to make suggestions ;-) Best regards, Mark Schonewille -- Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz A large collection of scripts for HyperCard, Revolution, SuperCard and other programming languages can be found at http://runrev.info On 16 apr 2008, at 00:56, Sarah Reichelt wrote: There is a way that I read about and I'm not sure that I remember it exactly, but apparently if your app's file name is Install.exe or maybe it was Setup.exe, then Vista automatically puts you into admin mode. This seems such an enormous security flaw that I can't believe they actually do it, but you might like to give it a test. Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Alphabeticisation ?
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 3:01 AM, Richmond Mathewson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trying to a alphabeticise a list-field and getting nowhere . . . More details please. If you're only trying to convert the first letter of each line then: 6 line script, with line numbers 1 put field listField into tStore 2 repeat for each line tLine in tStore 3put tLine return after tStore2 4put toUpper(char 1 of word 1 of tLine) into char 1 of word 1 of line -1 of tStore2 5 end repeat 6 put line 1 to -1 of tStore2 into field listField HTH ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Alphabeticisation ?
Kay C Lan wrote: If you're only trying to convert the first letter of each line Thank you very much. BUT I'm trying for full alphabeticisation. Maybe I could use your script recursively ? ? ? Have to wait til the weekend anyway. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. ___ Yahoo! For Good helps you make a difference http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: copyright infringement question
b.t.w. some products even won't install if they find reverse engineering (disassembling, etc..) tools present on the machine. But those days as interpreted languages are becoming more and more common, trying to disassemble software seems to be worthless activity, because the code is not compiled but rather obfuscated or encrypted in some way. Still, once the post appeared on the Rev list, I wonder, if it is possible to reverse engineer a rev application which stores the scripts in encrypted stacks? Reading and exploring RAM contents during execution of an application? V. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Hinduism Today
Hinduism Today http://www.hinduismtoday.com/digital/ downloads files into a cache which, presumably, is somewhere on the Hard Drive on which the operating system resides. This may not always be convenient for end users, and I wonder if an option whereby users could cache elsewhere (e.g. on another Drive) might be introduced. The reason I am posting this message here is because I am sure this is more a Runtime Revolution question than a Hindu one. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. ___ Yahoo! For Good helps you make a difference http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Hinduism Today
Hiya, Browsers have adjustable caches, so you can set it to a more comfortable size. I haven't seen the option to relocate the cache, might be doable in Firefox. Don't know if this will work: Find the cache folder, relocate it but place an alias/shortcut to it at its original location. Cheers, Luis. On 16 Apr 2008, at 11:15, Richmond Mathewson wrote: Hinduism Today http://www.hinduismtoday.com/digital/ downloads files into a cache which, presumably, is somewhere on the Hard Drive on which the operating system resides. This may not always be convenient for end users, and I wonder if an option whereby users could cache elsewhere (e.g. on another Drive) might be introduced. The reason I am posting this message here is because I am sure this is more a Runtime Revolution question than a Hindu one. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. ___ Yahoo! For Good helps you make a difference http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Beta testers who get nothing . . .
Richmond, Such is the nature of public betas. People who beta tested OSX as part of the public beta still had to buy it. However, I thought purchasers of 2.7 got a free upgrade. Or am I wrong? You might want to check with Rev support. M On Apr 16, 2008, at 3:07 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: Well I tested the 2.9 Beta at quite a considerable cost in time to myself, and with my extant licence for RevMedia 2.7.1 expected some sort of acknowledgement. But it was not to be. Pity really. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Hinduism Today
Browsers have adjustable caches, so you can set it to a more comfortable size. I haven't seen the option to relocate the cache, might be doable in Firefox. Entirely misses the point as Hinduism Today is a standalone authored in RR by Sivakatirswami which does the downloading and caching all by itself without recourse to a web-browser program. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. ___ Yahoo! For Good helps you make a difference http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Hinduism Today
Ooops! :) Cheers, Luis. On 16 Apr 2008, at 12:17, Richmond Mathewson wrote: Browsers have adjustable caches, so you can set it to a more comfortable size. I haven't seen the option to relocate the cache, might be doable in Firefox. Entirely misses the point as Hinduism Today is a standalone authored in RR by Sivakatirswami which does the downloading and caching all by itself without recourse to a web-browser program. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. ___ Yahoo! For Good helps you make a difference http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Beta testers who get nothing . . .
Here is a message that was posted concerning the release of 2.9 being free: Subject:Re: concerning 2.9 as free From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: February 25, 2008 10:19:39 AM PST Heather has posted this information in the forums. I'll do the same here: You get Rev 2.9 for free if: - You had an active update pack/license on 1 February 2006 - You purchased any version of Revolution 2.7.x - You bought a RevSelect Holiday bundle - You have an active license pack valid on the date of 2.9's release The free updates do not affect any other aspect of licensing. Your license is not extended another three months or year, for example. You are just getting the new version. Example 1: Bill has a Studio 2.6.1 license that expired Feb 5, 2006. He has not purchased any new versions since then. He gets Rev 2.9 for free, but otherwise his license is still inactive. He'll have to renew the license for any future versions. Example 2: Charles bought Revolution 2.7.3 and 2.8.1 and the RevSelect Holiday Bundle. His license is current through December 2008. He'll receive Rev 2.9 as part of his update pack license, as well as any versions released the rest of this year. We have not announced what versions will follow 2.9, but you're correct that if you don't have an update pack, these will not be free upgrades. (A good reason to get your licks in on the final beta.) Bill ++ On Apr 16, 2008, at 4:14 AM, Petrides, M.D. Marian wrote: Richmond, Such is the nature of public betas. People who beta tested OSX as part of the public beta still had to buy it. However, I thought purchasers of 2.7 got a free upgrade. Or am I wrong? You might want to check with Rev support. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
Mark, While this problem still has no 'recipe', I have had the stack that was saving go corrupt so I not only have to save in alternate ways but also I have to do a compress file in the finder to ensure a recent backup. I also archive the stack and of course use Time Machine. What is the method for saving in GLX2? You see, I have just gone back to 2.8 instead of continuing to freeze my machine but would love to play with the new additions to drag and drop and of course the wonderful bug fixes in 2.9. Thanks Tom McGrath On Apr 11, 2008, at 11:18 PM, Mark Talluto wrote: On Apr 10, 2008, at 11:19 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: How many people are experiencing this Freeze on Save??? I have not seen the problem on my computer. But, my cohort Hans has the problem every day he works in Rev. We have found that saving his work in GLX 2 is the most reliable form of saving. The problem only happens when he does command - S which uses Rev's saving routines. In most cases, it brings his entire system down forcing him to force shutdown his computer. Not a happy moment when this happens after a long coding session. Luckily he has not lost much work due to diligent saving in GLX 2. Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
ANN: libITS countdown to release
Announcement: I am pleased to announce that I am 90 percent complete in the fixes and changes to libITS, libITSDocs, and Examples, and I expect to release this extensive cross-platform library to the Revolution community in the very near future. More information to come... Although I have used Revolution for a few years now and have made a living doing so, this is the biggest project I have taken on and I am very excited about releasing this to this community. The Revolution community has given, and still gives, me so much over the years that this seems like the only way to repay that kindness. You keep what you have by giving it away! - unknown What goes around, comes around! - unknown In order to get what you want out of life, you have to help enough other people get what they want! - Grandpa Nolan The countdown has begun Tom McGrath Lazy River Software Thomas McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.lazyriversoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: This has to be easy! Tell a program not to open a file
On Apr 15, 2008, at 6:47 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote: So... let me rephrase that question. Is there a way to run my app in administrator modus, without having to ask the user to open the properties window and set admin mode manually? I add a manifest file using HeavenTools. I posted a lesson on it a little while ago which shows how to do it and provides an example manifest file. http://revolution.screenstepslive.com/lessons/567-Adding-a-Windows-Vista-Manifest-To-a-Revolution-Executable Regards, -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems www.bluemangolearning.com-www.screensteps.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Smallest PC that can run Revolution?
What is the smallest PC that anyone has managed to get a Revolution application running on - any operating system? Is there a hand held? Something without a built in screen? The Eee PC is one of the smallest I can find so far and certainly cheap - and the only one I know of that people have actually got Rev running on? I guess none of the Windows Mobile operating systems are an option? Found a couple more that seem possible: - http://www.elonexone.co.uk (seems delayed) - http://h71016.www7.hp.com/dstore/ctoBases.asp?BEID=19701ProductLineId=539oi=E9CEDFamilyId=2769LowPrice=%24729.00LowBaseId=23430jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN# - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CloudBook ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Beta testers who get nothing . . .
Richmond, The most important thing we all got out of the beta was a much-improved product. We're still evaluating what we want to do to recognize active testers. There will be a final beta update shortly with this info and a wrap-up on the beta program in general. Bill ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: This has to be easy! Tell a program not to open a file
Thanks, Trevor, that's a nice tutorial. Now, how do I do this on my Mac running Mac OS X? I was thinking that supplying an external manifest file with the executable might work, but I'm not sure how to do this. Best regards, Mark Schonewille -- Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz A large collection of scripts for HyperCard, Revolution, SuperCard and other programming languages can be found at http://runrev.info On 16 apr 2008, at 15:11, Trevor DeVore wrote: I add a manifest file using HeavenTools. I posted a lesson on it a little while ago which shows how to do it and provides an example manifest file. http://revolution.screenstepslive.com/lessons/567-Adding-a-Windows-Vista-Manifest-To-a-Revolution-Executable Regards, -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems www.bluemangolearning.com-www.screensteps.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Alphabeticisation ?
And sort lines of fld myListField is not useful because? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: copyright infringement question
How do you think the Japanese go so good at making cars; by buying examples of the competition and driving, examining and testing them to the very limits, and then deciding where to do it better (and probably cheaper). First reliability, then handling, then performance and finally style - but lets face it, most cars either have a twin or a triplet these days, you know exactly which make/model is competing with which make/model. I think it really comes down to how you approach it, the Japanese way (very generalized term here - don't mean to offend anyone) to examine, study and then say OK, let's build a better gearbox, better engine and better air conditioner. Then there is the pirate option; OK lets copy this gearbox, engine and air conditioner using cheap material and labour. EULAs aside, I agree with Richard that there are legal forms of reverse engineering. Check out this entry on wikipedia and the cloning of the PC: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_PC The Japanese have internalized the notion of continuous improvement in the manufacturing process, which served them well not only in creating cars that are more efficient but also break down less. They took to TQM (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_Quality_Management) like fish-to-water. What is facinating and going on _right now_ is the outsourcing of manufacturing jobs to China. Id beware about tossing around terms like copyright, trademarks and patents as they are different types of intellectual property and treated entirely different by individual governments. Something Id like to point out though, something that IS going on right now in IP you might be interested in is what is happening with Orphaned Works: http://judiciary.house.gov/oversight.aspx?ID=427 In a nutshell, there are folks lobbying to allow free use of so called orphaned works, if the original owner cannot be located. The suggested means of location has been to allow no protection for works that arent registered in privately run registrars. Think if you've created thousands of bits of IP. If you havent registered them, someone could claim they couldn't find you, and go ahead and use your work. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software http://www.paradigmasoft.com Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Database Server ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: This has to be easy! Tell a program not to open a file
On Apr 16, 2008, at 9:38 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Thanks, Trevor, that's a nice tutorial. Now, how do I do this on my Mac running Mac OS X? I was thinking that supplying an external manifest file with the executable might work, but I'm not sure how to do this. VMWare :-) I haven't experimented with external manifest files myself so I can't be much help there. I've just gone the embedded route. Regards, -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems www.bluemangolearning.com-www.screensteps.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: This has to be easy! Tell a program not to open a file
On Apr 16, 2008, at 10:40 AM, Ken Ray wrote: http://revolution.screenstepslive.com/lessons/567-Adding-a-Windows-Vista-Mani fest-To-a-Revolution-Executable Sweet, Trevor! That's going to help a lot of people (especially me!). Glad to hear it. You can subscribe to the RSS feed of lessons at revolution.screenstepslive.com in your favorite RSS reader if you want to know when new lessons are posted. RSS Feed http://revolution.screenstepslive.com/lessons/feed Regards, -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems www.bluemangolearning.com-www.screensteps.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
Jim, Thanks for the advice and of course what appears to be a simple thing turns out to be a major complication for me. I created the account then had to reenter serial numbers in RR that would not accept them. Finally, entering old ones and getting a new error then reentering new ones got RR to accept them. This required logging out each time. So I turned on user switching. So much for a clean account now. Logout Login Copy serial numbers Logout Login Paste/ not work Logout Login recopy logout login repaste logout login find old serial nums logout login etc. Set User Switching Switching users another few times and then: Then need to copy RR project to shared folder. Switch Then need to copy resources to shared folder. Switch Not enough resources (song files etc.) Switch Since the stack works with songs, launch itunes, no songs, Switch copy songs to shared folder Switch Now library is working and iTunes is working and RR is working Error on trying to save: Can't save stack libITS due to an error: can't open stack backup file Check the file path, and make sure you have sufficient permissions. I am not even using GLX2 in RR in this new user account, which is what normally is set to back up my stacks. So I look for an RR backup setting and find none. What is causing this backup file to happen and what path is it referring to? If I can find that maybe I can deal with the Permissions. A bit frustrated and feeling lost again Tom McGrath On Apr 10, 2008, at 2:14 PM, Jimmieson, Phil wrote: Hi Tom, have you tried setting up a new user account under OSX, and trying your stacks using that? It may be that the crash is something to do with a preference or setting related to your usual user account. If crashes continue under that then its probably a system thing causing the Rev problem. Phil Jimmieson The University of Liverpool, Computer Science Dept, Ashton Bldg, Ashton Street, Liverpool L69 3BX 0151 795 4236 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: This has to be easy! Tell a program not to open a file
On Apr 16, 2008, at 9:38 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Thanks, Trevor, that's a nice tutorial. Now, how do I do this on my Mac running Mac OS X? I was thinking that supplying an external manifest file with the executable might work, but I'm not sure how to do this. Though not helpful now perhaps a feature request to embed manifest files when building a Windows standalone might be in order as well so you could do this easily on OS X. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems www.bluemangolearning.com-www.screensteps.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: This has to be easy! Tell a program not to open a file
On 4/16/08 8:11 AM, Trevor DeVore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 15, 2008, at 6:47 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote: So... let me rephrase that question. Is there a way to run my app in administrator modus, without having to ask the user to open the properties window and set admin mode manually? I add a manifest file using HeavenTools. I posted a lesson on it a little while ago which shows how to do it and provides an example manifest file. http://revolution.screenstepslive.com/lessons/567-Adding-a-Windows-Vista-Mani fest-To-a-Revolution-Executable Sweet, Trevor! That's going to help a lot of people (especially me!). :-) Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Easy quick hypertalk coding question
Hi, Right, that's why I started with asking for the script. It ought to be a simple mistake. Best regards, Mark Schonewille -- Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz A large collection of scripts for HyperCard, Revolution, SuperCard and other programming languages can be found at http://runrev.info On 15 apr 2008, at 07:26, J. Landman Gay wrote: snip If your index field is simply a number, it should work without any extra scripting. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Altuit altAnswerDate
Hi Folks, I'm trying to use the altAnswerDate calendar widget from the Altuit RunRev site. I want to use a preOpenStack script in the stack to load and save a preferences file but this causes an error which I can't seem to overcome. OpenCard and preOpenCard get the same error. Any thoughts? Jim H ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
Jac, That did it. Thanks for the explanation. Apparently the shared folder was the problem. And of course, the stack saved WITHOUT any problems so now the Freeze is locally suspect. Something changed between 2.8 and the way 2.9 saves that is now in conflict with one of my local settings. This feels like the old OS9 days using the Extensions Manager. Oh well, now to find where the conflict lives. Thank you, Tom McGrath On Apr 16, 2008, at 11:36 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Thomas McGrath III wrote: Error on trying to save: Can't save stack libITS due to an error: can't open stack backup file Check the file path, and make sure you have sufficient permissions. I am not even using GLX2 in RR in this new user account, which is what normally is set to back up my stacks. So I look for an RR backup setting and find none. What is causing this backup file to happen and what path is it referring to? If I can find that maybe I can deal with the Permissions. When Rev saves a stack, it first renames the original by adding a tilde at the end of the file name. Then it tries to copy the stack into a new file. If for some reason the duplication doesn't succeed, you get that error. The backup it is refering to is the original copy, now renamed, which you should be able to find in its original enclosing folder. You can restore the original by removing the tilde from the file name. It won't have your new changes in it, of course, but you'll have the orginal copy to work with again. The error when saving is almost always due to an inability to write to the hard drive. That can be a permissions error, a hard drive error, a disk full error, or anything else that prevents the duplicate stack from being created. I would check the permissions on the stack file itself, on its enclosing folder (you copied it from the shared directory, right? Does it still belong to the original owner?), the permissions on the Rev app itself as well as Rev's enclosing folder. Rev needs to be able to read and write. As an experiment, give everyone all permissions for all the folders and files -- the owner, the group, and everyone -- just to see if that's the problem. Basically you want anyone to be able to copy and write to that user's account. You can change the permissions back later, but see if that fixes it for now. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
Thomas McGrath III wrote: Error on trying to save: Can't save stack libITS due to an error: can't open stack backup file Check the file path, and make sure you have sufficient permissions. I am not even using GLX2 in RR in this new user account, which is what normally is set to back up my stacks. So I look for an RR backup setting and find none. What is causing this backup file to happen and what path is it referring to? If I can find that maybe I can deal with the Permissions. When Rev saves a stack, it first renames the original by adding a tilde at the end of the file name. Then it tries to copy the stack into a new file. If for some reason the duplication doesn't succeed, you get that error. The backup it is refering to is the original copy, now renamed, which you should be able to find in its original enclosing folder. You can restore the original by removing the tilde from the file name. It won't have your new changes in it, of course, but you'll have the orginal copy to work with again. The error when saving is almost always due to an inability to write to the hard drive. That can be a permissions error, a hard drive error, a disk full error, or anything else that prevents the duplicate stack from being created. I would check the permissions on the stack file itself, on its enclosing folder (you copied it from the shared directory, right? Does it still belong to the original owner?), the permissions on the Rev app itself as well as Rev's enclosing folder. Rev needs to be able to read and write. As an experiment, give everyone all permissions for all the folders and files -- the owner, the group, and everyone -- just to see if that's the problem. Basically you want anyone to be able to copy and write to that user's account. You can change the permissions back later, but see if that fixes it for now. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
Guess who's computer is no longer FREEZING when saving on OSX in Revolution? ME.. I deleted a series of LOGIN items from my Accounts/Login Items in System Settings. I had previously uninstalled a series of applications that added menu items etc. to my system but that did not help. Then I noticed that a new user account has no login items at all. So I went and deleted the relevant items that were still in the Login Items tab. I had deleted the preference panes and applications but there were still items in the login items tab for those apps. I am sorry that I don't know which ones were creating problems for me since I deleted a bunch. I can try and use Time machine to go back but I don't want to on my whole system. Does anyone know where these Login Items are/were stored? A very happy Revolution user Tom McGrath ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
copyright etc.
Again, grateful thanks to you kind individuals and for your many thoughtful posts. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
Thomas, GLX2 has auto-save (save every n times you compile) and auto- archive. These are preferences on the Prefs Palette. Best, Jerry Daniels Daniels Mara, Inc. Makers of GLX2 http://www.daniels-mara.com/glx2 On Apr 16, 2008, at 7:42 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: What is the method for saving in GLX2? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
From Memory I can remember these were in the Login folder: iStat (some plugin - although I had deleted the preference pane for this) USBOverdrive EyeTV (some plugin - deleted the app before) xKeys (some plugin - deleted the app before) These apps were installed previously and I un-installed them: Google Desktop DivX iStat Menus Version Cue CS3 Wacom Tablet XKeys This is still installed: Flip4Mac WMV SO the only ones that I am questioning are the EyeTV plugin, the USBOverdrive, and xKeys, and iStat Tom On Apr 16, 2008, at 12:20 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Guess who's computer is no longer FREEZING when saving on OSX in Revolution? I am sorry that I don't know which ones were creating problems for me since I deleted a bunch. A very happy Revolution user Tom McGrath ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Smallest PC that can run Revolution?
Um, well it is fairly large in physical terms: however I got RR to run on a 300 MHz Pentium II with 32 MB RAM running Damn Small Linux. Grinds along at such a slow pace that makes me appreciate my G4 Mac like never before! Have no problem on my G4 Mac-mini with 256 MB RAM. Would like to offer as an alternative to David Bovill's challenge the following: What is the lowest specification computer you can get Runtime Revolution to run on? I suppose Running RR 1.1.1 Classic on a Performa 5260 CD with 32 MB RAM hardly counts as we should, presumably be confining ourselves to recent versions of RR. Let's say Post 2.0.1. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. ___ Yahoo! For Good helps you make a difference http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: copyright infringement question
Kay, All script editors have more things in common than not. That said, GLX2 script editor differs from Rev script editor in several, fundamental ways. GLX2 has... - One window and up to 20 tabs for browsing scripts of different objects - Handler links within scripts so you can jump to a handler nearly anywhere - Clairvoyance where GLX2 tries to guess the name of the hander/token/ variable/constant you're typing. - Breadcrumbs that provide a trail of handler names you've been working on - It's own script colors with two motifs: alabaster and chalkboard My earlier attempts at solving the problem of scripting and editing properties (Constellation/Galaxy) were MUCH more cutting edge, innovative, comprehensive and less derivative of Rev IDE than GLX2. And I iterated Constellation/Galaxy considerably trying to please my users and give them what they wanted and needed. Galaxy and Constellation were pretty unsuccessful, too. They even angered some people. I ended up with cult software. And a small cult. So why did I un-innovate GLX2? It should be plain by now. The large body of Rev users didn't want drastic change, but rather a few innovations and lots of optimization where possible. Why? I have many theories, but the wallet votes were what I started to count. But in talking about innovation, I should mention my strong belief that a product is not just a snapshot of a UI or the code beneath it. A good app is more like a river than a lake. A river flows and changes. Since GLX2 came out nearly a year and a half ago, we've published over 300 versions via our auto updater--fixing bugs, adding small enhancements. that's an average of 20 a month. We have a beta track for the adventurous. We now have a social-style web site to support it with precise user control over email and RSS notifications. You get the idea. Innovation is not only skin deep. Given all that, I'm pretty certain that I could sell more GLX2 if it was less innovative and more optimizing in nature. I wouldn't be using it myself, if that were the case. GLX2 is as little innovation as I can stand (in a product that i use) at the moment and it's enough like other Rev IDE components that Kevin Miller is happy to use it. NOTE: Kevin's pretty conservative Rev user. Legal action from Runtime Revolution against Daniels Mara for GLX2? They'd have to sue themselves, then. They're selling it! I have always collaborated with the team in Scotland on the above mentioned products and some others that are about to be released at the RevLive conference in Las Vegas new month. They're great partners. Why should people buy GLX2? They shouldn't, but they CAN. It's a choice. Choice is good. Diversity is good. Not everyone has to use the same tools, speak the same language, walk the same way, etc. Diversity is the cornerstone of evolution. There's still plenty of differences in GLX2 vs. Rev script editor to make it a choice. I have jumped into this conversation in the middle and may have misunderstood the intent and nature of the whole thing, but I used it as an opportunity to flog my product and company, regardless. Thanks for the opportunity. Best, Jerry Daniels Daniels Mara, Inc. Makers of GLX2 http://www.daniels-mara.com/glx2 - product site http://glx2help.ning.com - support site On Apr 16, 2008, at 3:35 AM, Kay C Lan wrote: I would think GLX2 is a perfect example. Gee it has a script field just like Rev's; has Run, Trace and Step just like Rev's; script colourization and a Handler menu just like Rev's; and blimey, Rev's is FREE and you want me to pay money for GLX2. Yet there is clearly a large number of people on this list who vote with their wallet. I may be wrong, and Jerry will probably correct me, but I imagine it is an intimate knowledge of all that is wrong with the Rev script editor; plus an excellent knowledge/focus on efficiency, that makes GLX2 such a compelling product. So has Rev taken legal action against Jerry? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Alphabeticisation ?
Of course if one wanted to be b*tchy the fact that sort lines of fld myListField occurred to neither Kay C Lan or myself could be blamed on something to do with the RR Documentation: I remember having an argument with the chief librarian at the Ivan Vasov Library here in Plovdiv: 1. At my Universities (Durham and SIUC) the libraries, if I remember correctly, use the Dewy Decimal system with open stacks: this means that if you know the fieldyou are interested in you can go to that part of the library and browse for books you may have never heard of before. 2. At Plovdiv the stacks are inaccessible (a last hurrah for Communism) and books are only by checking in either a title or author card system and then asking one of the many librarians to go and get the book for you (this normally involves a 1-2 hour wait). The problem about Plovdiv is that you have precious little chance of finding a book in your subject area of which you have not previously heard. However, in my case, the reason I did not think of sort lines of fld myListField is because I like making life difficult for myself and am not terribly good at thinking in straight lines :) Mind you, that does not mean that my story about libraries is irrelevant. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. ___ Yahoo! For Good helps you make a difference http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: mouseMove Bug
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 23:27:25 -0400, Gregory Lypny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone, I put the handler below into a field to experiment with mouseMove and mouseLine. Unfortunately, the handler continues to operate even when I select the Edit tool! Gregory In the discussion of the use of messages on the IDE and at runtime, no one commented on the actual content of this script. Two problems that will prevent it from working as you want: on mouseMove if the mouseChunk is not empty then put the value of the mouseLine set the backgroundColor of the line 1 to totalLines of me to empty -- there's an extra the -- should be of line 1 to... not of the line 1 to... -- and totalLines of me won't work unless you have previously -- put the number of lines of me into the variable totalLines -- probably what you want is line 1 to -1 of me set the backgroundColor of the mouseLine to yellow set the loc of button Option Menu to the mouseLoc end if end mouseMove Peter M. Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
a minor cosmetic annoyance
Speaking of mousemove... I don't know if anyone else is annoyed by this behavior When you have an unlocked scrolling field and you move the cursor into it, it changes to an ibeam. The problem for me is that it's an ibeam even if you move the cursor over the scrollbar. I find it mildly troublesome that when I want to drag or click on the scrollbar, the cursor is an ibeam -- it really ought to be an arrow, since you are not about to set down the insertion point. If you want to correct this, put the script below suitably high in the message path (or into an individual field, if you prefer not to have it as general behavior). on mousemove if not (the target contains field) then pass mousemove if not the vScrollbar of the target then pass mousemove if the locktext of the target then pass mousemove put the scrollbarwidth of the target into sw put the borderwidth of the target into bw add bw to sw if the mouseH = (the right of the target) - sw then set the defaultcursor to iBeam else set the defaultcursor to arrow end if end mousemove on mouseleave set the defaultcursor to empty end mouseleave This works for vertical scrollbars -- you can do the same for horizontal ones, with suitable changes in the script. Peter M. Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
I see this problem on newly created stacks and I don't think it is a permissions issue. It seems to be random when it crashes. It will work fine several times and then crash. Nothing apparently different on my end. I never had this problem with any previous version of Rev or any other program I've ever seen. Bill On Wednesday, April 16, 2008, at 09:13AM, J. Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thomas McGrath III wrote: Error on trying to save: Can't save stack libITS due to an error: can't open stack backup file Check the file path, and make sure you have sufficient permissions. I am not even using GLX2 in RR in this new user account, which is what normally is set to back up my stacks. So I look for an RR backup setting and find none. What is causing this backup file to happen and what path is it referring to? If I can find that maybe I can deal with the Permissions. When Rev saves a stack, it first renames the original by adding a tilde at the end of the file name. Then it tries to copy the stack into a new file. If for some reason the duplication doesn't succeed, you get that error. The backup it is refering to is the original copy, now renamed, which you should be able to find in its original enclosing folder. You can restore the original by removing the tilde from the file name. It won't have your new changes in it, of course, but you'll have the orginal copy to work with again. The error when saving is almost always due to an inability to write to the hard drive. That can be a permissions error, a hard drive error, a disk full error, or anything else that prevents the duplicate stack from being created. I would check the permissions on the stack file itself, on its enclosing folder (you copied it from the shared directory, right? Does it still belong to the original owner?), the permissions on the Rev app itself as well as Rev's enclosing folder. Rev needs to be able to read and write. As an experiment, give everyone all permissions for all the folders and files -- the owner, the group, and everyone -- just to see if that's the problem. Basically you want anyone to be able to copy and write to that user's account. You can change the permissions back later, but see if that fixes it for now. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
httpproxy authentication agent simulation
Hello, 1. I need fileupload from runrev via http using a proxy. This works with on mouseUp answer file Which file ... Welche Datei soll auf den Server geladen werden? set httpproxy to http://proxy:8080; put it into dateiname set the itemdelimiter to / put the last item of dateiname into shortname put dateiname wird aufgeladen ... into field protokoll put libUrlMultipartFormData(tForm, pdftitel, shortname,submit,Datei auf Server hochladen!) into tData set the httpheaders to line 1 of tForm delete line 1 of tForm put libUrlMultipartFormAddPart(tForm, filename,file dateiname, multipart/form-data, binary) into tData put http://htaccessusername:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/upload.cgi into tURL post tForm to url tUrl set the htmltext of field protokoll to it end mouseUp 2. But the proxy (http) needs a) authentication and perhaps b) only allows Mozilla or IE compatible browsers for http access. Now I have written a workaround in Perl: use LWP::UserAgent; my $ua = LWP::UserAgent-new; ... $ua-proxy(['http', 'ftp'], 'http://proxyusername:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:8080/'); $ua-agent(Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)); ... which allows http-upload through a proxy with authentication and agent simulation. 3. Question Is it possible to define httpproxy authentication agent simulation? Then I must not use Perl for a workaround ... Regards, Mit freundlichen Grüßen Franz Böhmisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.animabit.de GF Animabit Multimedia Software GmbH Am Sonnenhang 22 D-94136 Thyrnau Tel +49 (0)8501-8538 Fax +49 (0)8501-8537 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
On Apr 16, 2008, at 5:42 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Mark, While this problem still has no 'recipe', I have had the stack that was saving go corrupt so I not only have to save in alternate ways but also I have to do a compress file in the finder to ensure a recent backup. I also archive the stack and of course use Time Machine. What is the method for saving in GLX2? You see, I have just gone back to 2.8 instead of continuing to freeze my machine but would love to play with the new additions to drag and drop and of course the wonderful bug fixes in 2.9. Thanks Tom McGrath Hi Tom, Hans tells me that he will not allow himself to use the Rev IDE for saving. In other words, no command - S unless he has a script visible in GLX2. When GLX2 is open and a script is visible from the stack he is working on, then the G scripts are in use. For some reason, this works quite well. We have come to believe that the issue is with the saving dialog from Rev. The dialog is the last thing he sees. I use save in my projects all the time (in scripts) and have never had any issue. Thus, I think it is really the IDE that is causing all this grief. Maybe Rev could just do a diff on the 2.8.1 and 2.9 saving routines and see what has changed and get us back in shape. Because of all of this, we are very paranoid when saving around here. We both use Chronosync as our backup system. It backs up our work every 15 minutes to multiple locations. Because one can develop in Rev so quickly, 15 minutes could be a lot of work lost. Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
a minor cosmetic annoyance
My experience with cursors in RR is that unless one explicitly tells the cursor what form it should be it can change its form (say when it enters a text field) and then persist in that form elsewhere. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. ___ Yahoo! For Good helps you make a difference http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: a minor cosmetic annoyance
Peter Brigham wrote: I don't know if anyone else is annoyed by this behavior When you have an unlocked scrolling field and you move the cursor into it, it changes to an ibeam. The problem for me is that it's an ibeam even if you move the cursor over the scrollbar. I think there may be something else at play there. I just did this test: 1. Create a new stack 2. Add a field control 3. Switch to browse tool 4. Move mouse between text area and scrollbar - the cursor updated as expected. Perhaps the lockCursor is set for some reason? -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
On Apr 16, 2008, at 9:39 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: From Memory I can remember these were in the Login folder: iStat (some plugin - although I had deleted the preference pane for this) USBOverdrive EyeTV (some plugin - deleted the app before) xKeys (some plugin - deleted the app before) These apps were installed previously and I un-installed them: Google Desktop DivX iStat Menus Version Cue CS3 Wacom Tablet XKeys Very interesting list Thomas. Hans took out USBOverdrive from his login items. He has been saving a lot since to test it out. No crashes yet! He will run like this for another few days and see how it goes. I do not have USBOverdrive in my login items and have never seen this before. This may be it. Will post again later. Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: httpproxy authentication agent simulation
Franz, you can spoof the user-agent using another httpHeader: set the httpHeaders to User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727) -- or somesuch, this will override the default user-agent. I'm pretty sure you can do http authentication with a header too, using the WWW-Authenticate: header, but I'm not sure exactly what form it takes. Hope this helps, Mark On 16 Apr 2008, at 18:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, 1. I need fileupload from runrev via http using a proxy. This works with on mouseUp answer file Which file ... Welche Datei soll auf den Server geladen werden? set httpproxy to http://proxy:8080; put it into dateiname set the itemdelimiter to / put the last item of dateiname into shortname put dateiname wird aufgeladen ... into field protokoll put libUrlMultipartFormData(tForm, pdftitel, shortname,submit,Datei auf Server hochladen!) into tData set the httpheaders to line 1 of tForm delete line 1 of tForm put libUrlMultipartFormAddPart(tForm, filename,file dateiname, multipart/form-data, binary) into tData put http://htaccessusername:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/upload.cgi into tURL post tForm to url tUrl set the htmltext of field protokoll to it end mouseUp 2. But the proxy (http) needs a) authentication and perhaps b) only allows Mozilla or IE compatible browsers for http access. Now I have written a workaround in Perl: use LWP::UserAgent; my $ua = LWP::UserAgent-new; ... $ua-proxy(['http', 'ftp'], 'http:// proxyusername:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:8080/'); $ua-agent(Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)); ... which allows http-upload through a proxy with authentication and agent simulation. 3. Question Is it possible to define httpproxy authentication agent simulation? Then I must not use Perl for a workaround ... Regards, Mit freundlichen Grüßen Franz Böhmisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.animabit.de GF Animabit Multimedia Software GmbH Am Sonnenhang 22 D-94136 Thyrnau Tel +49 (0)8501-8538 Fax +49 (0)8501-8537 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
Well, in trying to track down this freeze I started to reinstall some of my applications. EyeTV seems to have no effect on RR Saving. Flip4Mac WMV has no effect. --- iKey brings back the Freeze. iKey is a software and USB hardware keyboard (iKeys) combination. I use Revolution to use the iKeys keyboard to control my Robots and my TV etc. I also use a plugin called irTrans and another software called iRed which uses a device called iRTrans (infrared send and receiver). This allows me to use Revolution to respond to keypresses on the the iKeys and send IR commands via USB to the iRTrans device that then sends the IR command to the Robot, TV, etc. I have loved having total control over a Robot from a RR interface. I further uninstalled each of these in turn and they all work by themselves and won't cause RR to freeze, except one situation where iKeys is set to open at startup in it's preferences window then RR freezes. As far as I can tell the application iKey.app is the actual start up file in the login items tab in Accounts in System Preferences. If I delete this in Login Items but still use the same application (but not at startup) then I have no Freeze. The program iKeys works fine and RR saves just fine, it is only when this item is in the Login Items that I am experiencing the Freeze. Yet it seems that the login just launches the same exact program (reveal in finder in the Login Items preferences pane points to the same app I launch). The iKeys app has software and an engine that also has a main menu bar menu. iRed has a plugin irTrans and a software iRed to edit and send the ir commands. --- Here is the info from iKeys: iKey - Easy, Powerful Automation for Mac OS X Programming by Philippe HUPÉ Design by Philippe HUPÉ and Julian MILLER Manual by Adam ENGST iKey is guaranteed to serve and protect mankind. Mac users anyway! Web Site: http://www.scriptsoftware.com/ikey/ Tech Support Forum: http://www.scriptsoftware.com/forum/ Contacts: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Apr 16, 2008, at 12:39 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: From Memory I can remember these were in the Login folder: iStat (some plugin - although I had deleted the preference pane for this) USBOverdrive EyeTV (some plugin - deleted the app before) xKeys (some plugin - deleted the app before) These apps were installed previously and I un-installed them: Google Desktop DivX iStat Menus Version Cue CS3 Wacom Tablet XKeys This is still installed: Flip4Mac WMV SO the only ones that I am questioning are the EyeTV plugin, the USBOverdrive, and xKeys, and iStat Tom On Apr 16, 2008, at 12:20 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Guess who's computer is no longer FREEZING when saving on OSX in Revolution? I am sorry that I don't know which ones were creating problems for me since I deleted a bunch. A very happy Revolution user Tom McGrath ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
OT: Re: Alphabeticisation ?
Richmond- The problem about Plovdiv is that you have precious little chance of finding a book in your subject area of which you have not previously heard. It's not just Plovdiv. Libraries are going this way in general as computerized systems replace card catalogs and closed stacks become standard. The University of California's Doe Library went to a closed stack system some years ago for some obscure bureaucratic reasons. The (backhanded obligatory Arthur C Clarke reference) serendipity of contextual proximity is what we've all but lost with the demise of open stacks and physical card catalogs. -- Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
OSX icons for standalones
I just found this yesterday for making OSX icon sets from image files. The UI is a bit funky, so it took me a bit to figure out how to use it, both otherwise it works fine. Free as in beer. http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/icons_screensavers/img2icns.html -- Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Question
Hi Joe, I have never had the save problem described on this list recently (I only use the Rev IDE without any plugins other than my own). The problem with metal windows under Leopard has been solved AFAIK. Why don't you just download the trial and give it a try? Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 16-apr-2008, om 20:14 heeft [EMAIL PROTECTED] het volgende geschreven: Hi everyone, I use Revolution Media on Mac OX on an Intel Mac. I read recently here that there are two problems with version 2.9 that are stopping me from downloading it. Apparently saving after coding causes a lockup crash and there is a problem with Metal appearance. Have those issues been cleared or should I wait for version 2.9.1? Thanks in advance for the continuing support I get from this very helpful group. Joe in Orlando, FL ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
2.9 Question
Hi everyone, I use Revolution Media on Mac OX on an Intel Mac. I read recently here that there are two problems with version 2.9 that are stopping me from downloading it. Apparently saving after coding causes a lockup crash and there is a problem with Metal appearance. Have those issues been cleared or should I wait for version 2.9.1? Thanks in advance for the continuing support I get from this very helpful group. Joe in Orlando, FL ** Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp0030002851) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
Mark, I also suspected USBOverdrive and now I have narrowed down the iKey and Xkeys as contributing factors. Since both of these are used for I/ O - USB - Serial connections that might be a factor since the save checks I/O devices and since some devices are connected over USB. I don't know but right now with both USBOverdrive and iKeys uninstalled and removed from my Login Items I have not had a crash for the first time since 2.9 came out. I will keep testing over the next few days to see if this is indeed where the problem lies. Thanks for hanging in there and your feedback. Tom McGrath P.S. Tell Hans he is not alone. :-) On Apr 16, 2008, at 2:10 PM, Mark Talluto wrote: On Apr 16, 2008, at 9:39 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: From Memory I can remember these were in the Login folder: iStat (some plugin - although I had deleted the preference pane for this) USBOverdrive EyeTV (some plugin - deleted the app before) xKeys (some plugin - deleted the app before) These apps were installed previously and I un-installed them: Google Desktop DivX iStat Menus Version Cue CS3 Wacom Tablet XKeys Very interesting list Thomas. Hans took out USBOverdrive from his login items. He has been saving a lot since to test it out. No crashes yet! He will run like this for another few days and see how it goes. I do not have USBOverdrive in my login items and have never seen this before. This may be it. Will post again later. Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Question
Joe, Rest assured that only a very very small subset of users have experienced the Freeze Save problem and we have been tracking it down along with/for the Rev team. We had a couple of work-arounds and yet it seems it might be a conflict outside of the Rev software. I have removed the offending software for now and contacted the company about this conflict. Also, using GLX2 to save my stacks I have never had the freeze issue at all. To be safe if you use USBOverdrive or iKey/xKeys then you might want to remove them when using the new version. Lastly, I think the Metal issue was resolved. Maybe others can chime in on that one though. Go ahead and download 2.9, you will love the fixes and the speed increase. I know I have. Regards, Tom McGrath On Apr 16, 2008, at 2:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, I use Revolution Media on Mac OX on an Intel Mac. I read recently here that there are two problems with version 2.9 that are stopping me from downloading it. Apparently saving after coding causes a lockup crash and there is a problem with Metal appearance. Have those issues been cleared or should I wait for version 2.9.1? Thanks in advance for the continuing support I get from this very helpful group. Joe in Orlando, FL ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[OT] Rev 2.9 hits a home run with users.
That's funny; as a Scot I seem to recall a home run is a term from the game of Baseball used in the United States of America; in Scotland we play Shinty (an altogether different game) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shinty , Curling and Golf. I would suppose that hole in one would be understood by almost everyone, the North Americans, amongst others, having adopted Golf. It is also Scottish. Whatever may be meant by home run in this context, I am sure that 2.9 is a considerably better version of Runtime Revolution than previous versions as it has undergone a vast amount of Beta testing. I can only congratulate Bill Marriott in his effecting something in the outfield :) sincerely, Richmond Mathewson A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. ___ Yahoo! For Good helps you make a difference http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Question
Hi Joe, mind you that revolution media is not up to 2.9 yet. from runrevs website as of today: Please note that the latest shipping version of Media is 2.7.4, Media for 2.9 is coming soon. Anyone purchasing Media after 1st of February 2008 will receive this version free when it ships aside from that I am using Media (2.7.4) on a current iMac with Leopard and it runs fine the way it is. But I dont use metal anyways. (just bought the license the other day, thought since it is valid for the Media 2.9 version I would not risk much) regarding freezes of Studio 2.9 and Leopard: I had three freezes in all, since I save often, no problem, many people have no problem at all, looks like it is some kind of specific setup that produces the freeze. regards Bernd LunchnMeets wrote: Hi everyone, I use Revolution Media on Mac OX on an Intel Mac. I read recently here that there are two problems with version 2.9 that are stopping me from downloading it. Apparently saving after coding causes a lockup crash and there is a problem with Metal appearance. Have those issues been cleared or should I wait for version 2.9.1? Thanks in advance for the continuing support I get from this very helpful group. Joe in Orlando, FL -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/2.9-Question-tp16730281p16731775.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Question
BNig wrote: Hi Joe, mind you that revolution media is not up to 2.9 yet. Check again. :) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Question
that is what it says on revs website http://newserver.runrev.com/products/revolution-media/product-overview/ I would gladly be mistaken. :) Bernd J. Landman Gay wrote: BNig wrote: Hi Joe, mind you that revolution media is not up to 2.9 yet. Check again. :) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/2.9-Question-tp16730281p16732654.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Question
Bernd- I would gladly be mistaken. :) http://newserver.runrev.com/downloads/all-downloads/revolution-media/ Be glad. -- -- Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
On Apr 16, 2008, at 12:01 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: I will keep testing over the next few days to see if this is indeed where the problem lies. Thanks for hanging in there and your feedback. Tom McGrath P.S. Tell Hans he is not alone. :-) Ok. Here is the latest over here. Hans put USBOverdrive back into the mix and got rev to crash within 4 saves using the rev ide. He misses USBOverdrive and has gone back to using GLX2 to save all his work. We have a working solution over here until this gets ironed out. Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Question
I am :)) yours gladly Bernd Mark Wieder wrote: Bernd- I would gladly be mistaken. :) http://newserver.runrev.com/downloads/all-downloads/revolution-media/ Be glad. -- -- Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/2.9-Question-tp16730281p16733532.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
Mark Talluto wrote: Ok. Here is the latest over here. Hans put USBOverdrive back into the mix and got rev to crash within 4 saves using the rev ide. He misses USBOverdrive and has gone back to using GLX2 to save all his work. We have a working solution over here until this gets ironed out. Mark W. is going to be delighted with this discovery. :) I use SteerMouse and haven't had any problem at all saving. Might be worth a look if you only use USBOverdrive for mouse control. http://plentycom.jp/en/steermouse/ -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
On Apr 16, 2008, at 4:49 PM, Mark Talluto wrote: Ok. Here is the latest over here. Hans put USBOverdrive back into the mix and got rev to crash within 4 saves using the rev ide. He misses USBOverdrive and has gone back to using GLX2 to save all his work. We have a working solution over here until this gets ironed out. Perhaps happenstance that both crash related items (USB overdrive, and iKeys or X-keys) have to do with USB devices? -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsystems.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: copyright infringement question
Thank you for that. The middle was right where it was needed. Cheers, Luis. Jerry Daniels wrote: Kay, All script editors have more things in common than not. That said, GLX2 script editor differs from Rev script editor in several, fundamental ways. GLX2 has... - One window and up to 20 tabs for browsing scripts of different objects - Handler links within scripts so you can jump to a handler nearly anywhere - Clairvoyance where GLX2 tries to guess the name of the hander/token/variable/constant you're typing. - Breadcrumbs that provide a trail of handler names you've been working on - It's own script colors with two motifs: alabaster and chalkboard My earlier attempts at solving the problem of scripting and editing properties (Constellation/Galaxy) were MUCH more cutting edge, innovative, comprehensive and less derivative of Rev IDE than GLX2. And I iterated Constellation/Galaxy considerably trying to please my users and give them what they wanted and needed. Galaxy and Constellation were pretty unsuccessful, too. They even angered some people. I ended up with cult software. And a small cult. So why did I un-innovate GLX2? It should be plain by now. The large body of Rev users didn't want drastic change, but rather a few innovations and lots of optimization where possible. Why? I have many theories, but the wallet votes were what I started to count. But in talking about innovation, I should mention my strong belief that a product is not just a snapshot of a UI or the code beneath it. A good app is more like a river than a lake. A river flows and changes. Since GLX2 came out nearly a year and a half ago, we've published over 300 versions via our auto updater--fixing bugs, adding small enhancements. that's an average of 20 a month. We have a beta track for the adventurous. We now have a social-style web site to support it with precise user control over email and RSS notifications. You get the idea. Innovation is not only skin deep. Given all that, I'm pretty certain that I could sell more GLX2 if it was less innovative and more optimizing in nature. I wouldn't be using it myself, if that were the case. GLX2 is as little innovation as I can stand (in a product that i use) at the moment and it's enough like other Rev IDE components that Kevin Miller is happy to use it. NOTE: Kevin's pretty conservative Rev user. Legal action from Runtime Revolution against Daniels Mara for GLX2? They'd have to sue themselves, then. They're selling it! I have always collaborated with the team in Scotland on the above mentioned products and some others that are about to be released at the RevLive conference in Las Vegas new month. They're great partners. Why should people buy GLX2? They shouldn't, but they CAN. It's a choice. Choice is good. Diversity is good. Not everyone has to use the same tools, speak the same language, walk the same way, etc. Diversity is the cornerstone of evolution. There's still plenty of differences in GLX2 vs. Rev script editor to make it a choice. I have jumped into this conversation in the middle and may have misunderstood the intent and nature of the whole thing, but I used it as an opportunity to flog my product and company, regardless. Thanks for the opportunity. Best, Jerry Daniels Daniels Mara, Inc. Makers of GLX2 http://www.daniels-mara.com/glx2 - product site http://glx2help.ning.com - support site On Apr 16, 2008, at 3:35 AM, Kay C Lan wrote: I would think GLX2 is a perfect example. Gee it has a script field just like Rev's; has Run, Trace and Step just like Rev's; script colourization and a Handler menu just like Rev's; and blimey, Rev's is FREE and you want me to pay money for GLX2. Yet there is clearly a large number of people on this list who vote with their wallet. I may be wrong, and Jerry will probably correct me, but I imagine it is an intimate knowledge of all that is wrong with the Rev script editor; plus an excellent knowledge/focus on efficiency, that makes GLX2 such a compelling product. So has Rev taken legal action against Jerry? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
Are all these OS X freezes happening on recent 10.5 installs? Cheers, Luis. Mark Talluto wrote: On Apr 16, 2008, at 9:39 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: From Memory I can remember these were in the Login folder: iStat (some plugin - although I had deleted the preference pane for this) USBOverdrive EyeTV (some plugin - deleted the app before) xKeys (some plugin - deleted the app before) These apps were installed previously and I un-installed them: Google Desktop DivX iStat Menus Version Cue CS3 Wacom Tablet XKeys Very interesting list Thomas. Hans took out USBOverdrive from his login items. He has been saving a lot since to test it out. No crashes yet! He will run like this for another few days and see how it goes. I do not have USBOverdrive in my login items and have never seen this before. This may be it. Will post again later. Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
Normally OS X will prevent 'badly behaved' drivers (have noted USB drivers specifically) from loading into the system, especially so on OS X 10.5. Having them then 'forced into being' as startup items is asking them to load up again. Note that some apps have to make specific changes to be OS X 10.5 friendly (I have seen this with TechTool) and not just drivers, so check for updates. Cheers, Luis. Thomas McGrath III wrote: Mark, I also suspected USBOverdrive and now I have narrowed down the iKey and Xkeys as contributing factors. Since both of these are used for I/O - USB - Serial connections that might be a factor since the save checks I/O devices and since some devices are connected over USB. I don't know but right now with both USBOverdrive and iKeys uninstalled and removed from my Login Items I have not had a crash for the first time since 2.9 came out. I will keep testing over the next few days to see if this is indeed where the problem lies. Thanks for hanging in there and your feedback. Tom McGrath P.S. Tell Hans he is not alone. :-) On Apr 16, 2008, at 2:10 PM, Mark Talluto wrote: On Apr 16, 2008, at 9:39 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: From Memory I can remember these were in the Login folder: iStat (some plugin - although I had deleted the preference pane for this) USBOverdrive EyeTV (some plugin - deleted the app before) xKeys (some plugin - deleted the app before) These apps were installed previously and I un-installed them: Google Desktop DivX iStat Menus Version Cue CS3 Wacom Tablet XKeys Very interesting list Thomas. Hans took out USBOverdrive from his login items. He has been saving a lot since to test it out. No crashes yet! He will run like this for another few days and see how it goes. I do not have USBOverdrive in my login items and have never seen this before. This may be it. Will post again later. Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OSX icons for standalones
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 4:15 AM, Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just found this yesterday for making OSX icon sets from image files. The UI is a bit funky, so it took me a bit to figure out how to use it, both otherwise it works fine. Free as in beer. http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/icons_screensavers/img2icns.html Thanks for the info Mark. This is extremely fast easy to use. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OSX icons for standalones
Hi Mark and Sarah, I like that tool too, but I really wish I had a command line utility or external to do the job. Best regards, Mark Schonewille -- Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz A large collection of scripts for HyperCard, Revolution, SuperCard and other programming languages can be found at http://runrev.info On 17 apr 2008, at 00:41, Sarah Reichelt wrote: Thanks for the info Mark. This is extremely fast easy to use. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Question
LunchnMeets wrote: ...and there is a problem with Metal appearance. Apple solved all problems related to that short-lived motif: Important: In Mac OS X v10.5 and later, there are no brushed metal windows. Windows that were designed as brushed metal windows to run in earlier versions of Mac OS X should adopt the Leopard look in Mac OS X v10.5. For the most part this is automatic. You may need to adjust your layout so that no window-frame material is visible on the sides of the window and you should ensure that the controls you used in the toolbar are still appropriate. http://developer.apple.com/documentation/UserExperience/Conceptual/OSXHIGuidelines/XHIGWindows/chapter_18_section_3.html# One less platform-specific anomaly to deal with. :) -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Question
If one really needs to use the metal look, then use Eric Chatonet's method using a small metal graphic as a background image. Looks great, no hassles. It's in one of his lessons, free, online. LunchnMeets wrote: ...and there is a problem with Metal appearance. Apple solved all problems related to that short-lived motif: Important: In Mac OS X v10.5 and later, there are no brushed metal windows. Windows that were designed as brushed metal windows to run in earlier versions of Mac OS X should adopt the Leopard look in Mac OS X v10.5. For the most part this is automatic. You may need to adjust your layout so that no window-frame material is visible on the sides of the window and you should ensure that the controls you used in the toolbar are still appropriate. http://developer.apple.com/documentation/UserExperience/Conceptual/OSXHIGuidelines/XHIGWindows/chapter_18_section_3.html# One less platform-specific anomaly to deal with. :) -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Rev 2.9 hits a home run with users.
Thanks! And sorry for the Ameri-centro headline ;) What do you think of the new newsletter name and format? Richmond wrote That's funny; as a Scot I seem to recall a home run is a term from the game of Baseball used in the United States of America; in Scotland we play Shinty (an altogether different game) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shinty , Curling and Golf. I would suppose that hole in one would be understood by almost everyone, the North Americans, amongst others, having adopted Golf. It is also Scottish. Whatever may be meant by home run in this context, I am sure that 2.9 is a considerably better version of Runtime Revolution than previous versions as it has undergone a vast amount of Beta testing. I can only congratulate Bill Marriott in his effecting something in the outfield :) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OSX icons for standalones
I like that tool too, but I really wish I had a command line utility or external to do the job. I completely agree. Then we could do it all from inside Rev just by specifying an image or image file. It could even become part of the standalone builder! Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Beta testers who get nothing . . .
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 6:07 PM, Richmond Mathewson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I tested the 2.9 Beta at quite a considerable cost in time to myself, and with my extant licence for RevMedia 2.7.1 expected some sort of acknowledgement. But it was not to be. Pity really. For my part, I thoroughly enjoyed beta-testing. All I expected to get out of it was for Revolution to be improved and I certainly got that. I gather from the newsletter that there were about 800 beta testers, so I don't see that acknowledging us all in the credits would have been possible. What did you expect Richmond? Perhaps next time you should stay out of the beta program if you do not feel that the intrinsic rewards are sufficient. Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
On Apr 16, 2008, at 3:30 PM, Luis wrote: Are all these OS X freezes happening on recent 10.5 installs? Hans has a fresh install of OS 10.5.2. Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
On Apr 16, 2008, at 2:36 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Mark Talluto wrote: Ok. Here is the latest over here. Hans put USBOverdrive back into the mix and got rev to crash within 4 saves using the rev ide. He misses USBOverdrive and has gone back to using GLX2 to save all his work. We have a working solution over here until this gets ironed out. Mark W. is going to be delighted with this discovery. :) I use SteerMouse and haven't had any problem at all saving. Might be worth a look if you only use USBOverdrive for mouse control. http://plentycom.jp/en/steermouse/ Thanks Jaque, I'll let you know how it goes. -Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Alphabeticisation ?
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 9:39 PM, Bill Marriott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And sort lines of fld myListField is not useful because? No, just me having too much trouble with the English language. Is alphabeticise a real word, or is it a real Scottish word ;-) I didn't read the problem as simple as 'I want to order a field alphabetically', which is why I qualified my response with 'more details please'. I assumed it was a little more complex, so provided a method of capitalization (real word) of a particular letter of each line. In the end, Richmond's got his solution :-) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Alphabeticisation ?
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 12:49 AM, Richmond Mathewson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course if one wanted to be b*tchy the fact that sort lines of fld myListField occurred to neither Kay C Lan or myself could be blamed on something to do with the RR Documentation: Hey, I don't blame the docs, I blame it purely on my lack of a grasp of the English language, or if alphabeticisation is a Scottish word, then a lack of a grasp of the Scottish language ;-) I just assumed your problem was more complex than just a simple sort. Those who do want to get b*tchy would probably say your problems are just more complex ;-) but they probably don't appreciate your tangents on this list as much as I do :-) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: copyright infringement question
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 12:27 AM, Jerry Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have jumped into this conversation in the middle and may have misunderstood the intent and nature of the whole thing, No, I think this first statement was just perfect. All script editors have more things in common than not. That said, GLX2 script editor differs from Rev script editor in several, fundamental ways. If you are going to compete in the market, then you'll always have more in common than not, that's why IMHO Sadhunathan doesn't need to fear legal repercussions if he's not simply copying another product, but after identifying X,Y and Z that every version/make/implementation of the product has, goes on to identify the few key fundamental improvements he'd like to implement in his own version. but I used it as an opportunity to flog my product and company, regardless. Thanks for the opportunity. Glad I could offer the segue. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
2.9 and recording as a movie
Hi, The 2.8.1 version of RunRev had a lot of issues on the Mac, ones that we really couldn't tolerate, so we moved it to another engine. However, we would like to use RR for our PC version. One hurdle I'm not sure how to address is one of exporting to a movie. I'd like to export an animation made in RR 2.9 directly to a .avi file. How can I do this? Thank you! Art ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OSX icons for standalones
On Apr 16, 2008, at 4:08 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: I like that tool too, but I really wish I had a command line utility or external to do the job. I completely agree. Then we could do it all from inside Rev just by specifying an image or image file. It could even become part of the standalone builder! I've been hoping for an icon-building feature incorporated into the standalone builder for a long time. Maybe it's not so far-fetched after all. Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Re: Alphabeticisation ?
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 2:29 AM, Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The University of California's Doe Library went to a closed stack system some years ago for some obscure bureaucratic reasons. The (backhanded obligatory Arthur C Clarke reference) serendipity of contextual proximity is what we've all but lost with the demise of open stacks and physical card catalogs. OK, I'm not a Librarian, but my wife is and so I asked her and this is what she discovered just now. She can access the University of California's Doe Library via the internet from halfway across the planet, in fact she can access every University of California Library by a system called Melvyl - which is the front end for OPAC (Online Public Access Catalogue - my wife normally uses a system called Oliver) Through Melvyl and OPAC you can search by: Title, Title begins with Journal Title Journal Title begins with Author Keywords in name Author last name first Author organisation Author/Title Subject Keywords ISBN ISSN My wife says Universities generally don't use Dewy because the system is designed for small collections, Universities uses Library of Congress system which provides finer categorisation for more accurate searches. My wife who teaches 'Information Literacy' at University to graduates, typically School Librarians, laughs at 'card' systems as being 'way too restrictive' and that if you couldn't find a host of books on any given subject with Melvyn, then you're an idiot - her words not mine. For Richmond, my wife checked out the University of Durham Library which is also online and indicated there you can ALSO search by: Classification mark, Shelf mark, Place of publication, and in Arabic or Chinese language. She tried to access the Plovdiv National Library but couldn't, although from her limited perspective it appeared that they were transferring to an OPAC system and that their catalogue may become available online at some future date - again, that is her impression, not necessarily reality. So, next time you're off to the library Richmond you could simply do a search of the online catalogue at Durham Uni, get a bunch of book names within the subject of interest and take the list to Plovdiv to see if they have any of them. Lastly my wife indicates that in general the physical book collection at libraries are getting smaller, and should be, to reflect the reality that access to more accurate data is readily available via the internet. If a library these days has an encyclopedia collection, then the librarians aren't doing their job. OK, can we go any further OT ;-) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: a minor cosmetic annoyance
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:36:35 -0700, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter Brigham wrote: I don't know if anyone else is annoyed by this behavior When you have an unlocked scrolling field and you move the cursor into it, it changes to an ibeam. The problem for me is that it's an ibeam even if you move the cursor over the scrollbar. I think there may be something else at play there. I just did this test: 1. Create a new stack 2. Add a field control 3. Switch to browse tool 4. Move mouse between text area and scrollbar - the cursor updated as expected. Perhaps the lockCursor is set for some reason? Hmm. I'll check that out. I have long been bothered by the persistent ibeam problem, and I tested it again with a virgin stack and one scrolling field before writing the above email, and it behaved as I described -- but I had not closed Rev first and had been working in the stack system I spend most of my time with (practice management). I thought I had cleaned out all the lock cursor commands from that stack system, but it looks as if there is something in my system that locks the cursor. Now quite sure how, exactly, because I have mouseleave handlers that unlock the cursor in a number of my controls. But when I restarted Rev just now and once more made a virgin stack and scrolling field, it behaves properly. I've got some more detective work to do. Meanwhile, as Emily Latella used to say on the old Saturday Night Live never mind. Peter M. Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
10.5.2 here. And once I put xKeys iKey back in I got the crash the second save. I am going to consider Hans solution for now. I keep USBOverdrive for some software but I can live without it for now. Tom On Apr 16, 2008, at 6:30 PM, Luis wrote: Are all these OS X freezes happening on recent 10.5 installs? Cheers, Luis. Mark Talluto wrote: On Apr 16, 2008, at 9:39 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: From Memory I can remember these were in the Login folder: iStat (some plugin - although I had deleted the preference pane for this) USBOverdrive EyeTV (some plugin - deleted the app before) xKeys (some plugin - deleted the app before) These apps were installed previously and I un-installed them: Google Desktop DivX iStat Menus Version Cue CS3 Wacom Tablet XKeys Very interesting list Thomas. Hans took out USBOverdrive from his login items. He has been saving a lot since to test it out. No crashes yet! He will run like this for another few days and see how it goes. I do not have USBOverdrive in my login items and have never seen this before. This may be it. Will post again later. Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Thomas McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 10.5.2 here. And once I put xKeys iKey back in I got the crash the second save. I am going to consider Hans solution for now. I keep USBOverdrive for some software but I can live without it for now. I use USBOverdrive Tom, and while I mostly save using GLX2, I sometimes do a standard save, and I haven't had any problems. One other thing to check is that you have Leopard-compatible versions of all these utilities. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Problem with put URL and websites
Based on replies I have received (thanks for them) I don't think I explained the situation properly. Let me try again: Until a month ago, I was able to retrieve the drive time between two zip codes by using (for example): put http://www.mapquest.com/maps/01778/03861/; into bunchofText Up until about a month ago, bunchofText would contain (for example): Total Estimated Time: 1 hour 35 minutes Therefore, it was a simple matter of using offset(Total Estimated Time:, bunchofText) to retrieve the drive time between two zip codes. Then, suddenly my script didn't work. Using Variable Watcher I found that bunchofText now contains some mysterious code. It now looks like this: Total Estimated Time: span class=timeSpan id=dirTimeSummary/ span Obviously, I now can't retrieve the drive time. Does anyone have any ideas what I should do? Incidentally, I have tried using revBrowser. But when I use the following script: on mouseup put the windowid of this stack into tWinID put http://www.mapquest.com/maps/01778/03861/; into tAddress put revBrowserOpen(tWinID,tAddress) into tBrowserID revBrowserSet tBrowserID, showborder,true revBrowserSet tBrowserID, rect,rect of img browserimage put revBrowserGet(tBrowserID,htmltext) end mouseup Revolution crashes Any suggestions/help would be most appreciated! Thanks Fred Moyer ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Problem with put URL and websites
I will repeat my contention that the provider has either reformatted their output to your browser or you are not getting the same page somehow. span class=timeSpan id=dirTimeSummary/span looks like it should have a text string just before /span thus it appears that the data you want is missing. Further examination: When I use your url to get the page in a browser, there is a delay before the page appears, this version has no Estimated time, then a refresh occurs and the time now appears. My guess is that the server has changed the way it serves the page and you will likely need to put a wait into your script. Actually, this might mean cannot simply do put url HTTP into tVar since it looks like you are being sent a preliminary version with advertising, then the final version. How much work do you want to do to get the Estimated time? Jim Ault Las Vegas On 4/16/08 8:55 PM, Fred moyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Based on replies I have received (thanks for them) I don't think I explained the situation properly. Let me try again: Until a month ago, I was able to retrieve the drive time between two zip codes by using (for example): put http://www.mapquest.com/maps/01778/03861/; into bunchofText Up until about a month ago, bunchofText would contain (for example): Total Estimated Time: 1 hour 35 minutes Therefore, it was a simple matter of using offset(Total Estimated Time:, bunchofText) to retrieve the drive time between two zip codes. Then, suddenly my script didn't work. Using Variable Watcher I found that bunchofText now contains some mysterious code. It now looks like this: Total Estimated Time: span class=timeSpan id=dirTimeSummary/ span Obviously, I now can't retrieve the drive time. Does anyone have any ideas what I should do? Incidentally, I have tried using revBrowser. But when I use the following script: on mouseup put the windowid of this stack into tWinID put http://www.mapquest.com/maps/01778/03861/; into tAddress put revBrowserOpen(tWinID,tAddress) into tBrowserID revBrowserSet tBrowserID, showborder,true revBrowserSet tBrowserID, rect,rect of img browserimage put revBrowserGet(tBrowserID,htmltext) end mouseup Revolution crashes Any suggestions/help would be most appreciated! Thanks Fred Moyer ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Rev 2.9 hits a home run with users.
Richmond- The rules of Shinty made no sense to me (but then I've never figured out Cricket, even after having it explained to me with a game in progress) until I had it translated into Simple English: Shinty a traditional game played in the Scottish Highlands. It involves 2 teams of twelve players using a stick (known as a caman from Scottish Gaelic) to put a ball in the opposing teams net. http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shinty -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Problem with put URL and websites
Warning: I don't know much about this kind of thing. Is it possible that the TimeSpan item is being set by the drawLocations JS function in this file?: http://content.mqcdn.com/dotcom-release-11-build.19/cdn/js/dojo/dojo.js.results.js (That's a ref in the source of your mapquest URL below). Phil Davis Fred moyer wrote: Based on replies I have received (thanks for them) I don't think I explained the situation properly. Let me try again: Until a month ago, I was able to retrieve the drive time between two zip codes by using (for example): put http://www.mapquest.com/maps/01778/03861/; into bunchofText Up until about a month ago, bunchofText would contain (for example): Total Estimated Time: 1 hour 35 minutes Therefore, it was a simple matter of using offset(Total Estimated Time:, bunchofText) to retrieve the drive time between two zip codes. Then, suddenly my script didn't work. Using Variable Watcher I found that bunchofText now contains some mysterious code. It now looks like this: Total Estimated Time: span class=timeSpan id=dirTimeSummary/span Obviously, I now can't retrieve the drive time. Does anyone have any ideas what I should do? Incidentally, I have tried using revBrowser. But when I use the following script: on mouseup put the windowid of this stack into tWinID put http://www.mapquest.com/maps/01778/03861/; into tAddress put revBrowserOpen(tWinID,tAddress) into tBrowserID revBrowserSet tBrowserID, showborder,true revBrowserSet tBrowserID, rect,rect of img browserimage put revBrowserGet(tBrowserID,htmltext) end mouseup Revolution crashes Any suggestions/help would be most appreciated! Thanks Fred Moyer ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Phil Davis PDS Labs Professional Software Development http://pdslabs.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Problem with put URL and websites
It appears that MapQuest is relying on some kind of JavaScript component that it's not finding when retrieving the URL from within Revolution which, if correct, is why you're getting empty data between the tags. I would continue experimenting with RevBrowser, but otherwise you may have to find a different mapping service. I briefly looked at maps.google.com The basic service didn't seem to offer ZIP-code-based directions, but I didn't dig very deep. There might be some alternative service/setting buried there. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design Recently, Fred moyer wrote: Based on replies I have received (thanks for them) I don't think I explained the situation properly. Let me try again: Until a month ago, I was able to retrieve the drive time between two zip codes by using (for example): put http://www.mapquest.com/maps/01778/03861/; into bunchofText Up until about a month ago, bunchofText would contain (for example): Total Estimated Time: 1 hour 35 minutes Therefore, it was a simple matter of using offset(Total Estimated Time:, bunchofText) to retrieve the drive time between two zip codes. Then, suddenly my script didn't work. Using Variable Watcher I found that bunchofText now contains some mysterious code. It now looks like this: Total Estimated Time: span class=timeSpan id=dirTimeSummary/ span Obviously, I now can't retrieve the drive time. Does anyone have any ideas what I should do? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
