AW: WMV recipes
Hi Richard, I am using sorenson squeeze. It has a good batch processing feature, if you have to encode multiple files and a lot of filters. I wanted to switch to WMVs too, but get irregular results, when trying to control a bit more as just play and stop, so I decided to go with QT again. Just my 2 cents Tiemo What programs are you doing the compression in? Currently just QT Player Pro w/Flip4Mac. If we can find a better solution using another tool I'd be happy to give it a try. What would you recommend? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Wrong way round - Revolution
Richard Gaskin wrote: Revolution is a fine name by itself... Actually it is a terrible name. It means overthrow the government or go round and round. I believe this name has been costing the company sales and credibility for years. One would get a much better name by simply dropping the last three syllables. Certainly this should be done before mass distribution commences. BTW, I hope none of the non-US visitors to the convention in Las Vegas tell Customs that they are going to a revolution meeting! Paul Looney ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Smallest PC that can run Revolution?
On 16/4/08 14:30, David Bovill wrote: What is the smallest PC that anyone has managed to get a Revolution application running on - any operating system? Is there a hand held? Something without a built in screen? The Eee PC is one of the smallest I can find so far and certainly cheap - and the only one I know of that people have actually got Rev running on? I guess none of the Windows Mobile operating systems are an option? We've installed a Rev-built app on a bunch of very small custom built units that were running Windows Embedded, on a fanless VIA Mini-ITX motherboard http://www.viatech.com/, with a 256MB solid-state disk. (These were installed in vehicles, so it was important to have no moving parts and low power requirements.) Had no problems except that we had to fiddle with the OS image a few times before we got the combination of components we needed. We also evaluated Puppy Linux on the same hardware (we ended up with 75 units, so the potential saving on Windows Embedded licenses was considerable); it all worked fine except that we needed better multimedia support than Rev made available on Linux at that time. With 2.9 I suspect we could have gone that route. - Ben ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Inheritance ?
Devi Asay wrote: Or it could be a bug in Rev. No, I don't think it is; I have been fiddling around, and it seems that backgroundColor is normally inherited, so it must be something to do with opacity. I just have to remember, in future, to set the backgroundColor of every field explicitly. Re the fonts: your recipe certainly does the trick. What bothers me is that with the textSize set to, for example, 32, it still defaults to 10 or 12 when transferred. I wonder if this happens between, say, 2 Macs or 2 Wins that don't have the same font sets installed? sincerely, Richmond Mathewson A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. __ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Wrong way round - Revolution
On Apr 19, 2008, at 5:36 PM, Paul Looney wrote: Revolution is a fine name by itself... Actually it is a terrible name. It means overthrow the government or go round and round I've wondered a few times what (some) people think when examining their web log files and see the word Revolution. Having it show up at the wrong place might get you a knock on your door by some guy with highly polished shoes and dark sunglasses ;-) 72.9.snip - Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0) cpc4 snip - Revolution (MacOS) sims ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: This has to be easy! Tell a program not to open a file
On Apr 21, 2008, at 9:26 PM, Jim Ault wrote: That is the catch, there is no manifest folder until after I use the Wizard. There is a '1' in the Version folder, though. Once you add the manifest using the wizard, a folder exists, the '1' exists, and you can edit as your instructions say. What version of Rev did you build the standalone with? 2.9 or an earlier version? Maybe the manifest is a new feature. Let me know and I will update the instructions. Regards, -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems www.bluemangolearning.com-www.screensteps.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Rev on a Linux based Nokia N810? (was Smallest PC that can run Revolution?)
Thanks a lot for that Ben NB - what about the new Linux based Nokia Tablets... it seems like quite a few Linux apps are being ported without too much trouble - seems GTK+ / Gnome based... not sure what Rev 2.9 requires... * http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware/nokia-n810-review.ars/4 * http://maemo.org/intro/ 2008/4/22 Ben Rubinstein [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 16/4/08 14:30, David Bovill wrote: What is the smallest PC that anyone has managed to get a Revolution application running on - any operating system? Is there a hand held? Something without a built in screen? The Eee PC is one of the smallest I can find so far and certainly cheap - and the only one I know of that people have actually got Rev running on? I guess none of the Windows Mobile operating systems are an option? We've installed a Rev-built app on a bunch of very small custom built units that were running Windows Embedded, on a fanless VIA Mini-ITX motherboard http://www.viatech.com/, with a 256MB solid-state disk. (These were installed in vehicles, so it was important to have no moving parts and low power requirements.) Had no problems except that we had to fiddle with the OS image a few times before we got the combination of components we needed. We also evaluated Puppy Linux on the same hardware (we ended up with 75 units, so the potential saving on Windows Embedded licenses was considerable); it all worked fine except that we needed better multimedia support than Rev made available on Linux at that time. With 2.9 I suspect we could have gone that route. - Ben ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
answer file sdsdsd with type... broken on Win?
Hi all, can someone check if this works on Windows before I bugreport it? ... answer file sdsdsd with type|jpg| ... Should only show JPEG files in the dialog, but doesn't! ALL files can be selected :-/ Has been working until Rev 2.9 and does work on a Mac of course EXCEPT that bundle files like Keynote or Numbers docuemnts can be selected, too. Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Wrong way round - Revolution
Paul Looney wrote: Richard Gaskin wrote: Revolution is a fine name by itself... Actually it is a terrible name. I meant in contrast to Mirye Runtime Revolution. I trust you agree on at least that. It means overthrow the government A little rebellion now and then is a good thing. - Thomas Jefferson -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: answer file sdsdsd with type... broken on Win?
Klaus, The following works fine on Win XP: answer file with type Stack|rev| Best regards, Mark Schonewille -- Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz A large collection of scripts for HyperCard, Revolution, SuperCard and other programming languages can be found at http://runrev.info On 22 apr 2008, at 15:24, Klaus Major wrote: Hi all, can someone check if this works on Windows before I bugreport it? ... answer file sdsdsd with type|jpg| ... snip ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Wrong way round - Revolution
Richard, Yes, I agree with that. Mirye Runtime Revolution looks like an attempt to hijack the name. I think Jefferson would agree. ;-) Paul Looney On Apr 22, 2008, at 6:35 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Paul Looney wrote: Richard Gaskin wrote: Revolution is a fine name by itself... Actually it is a terrible name. I meant in contrast to Mirye Runtime Revolution. I trust you agree on at least that. It means overthrow the government A little rebellion now and then is a good thing. - Thomas Jefferson -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: answer file sdsdsd with type... broken on Win?
Klaus Major wrote: can someone check if this works on Windows before I bugreport it? ... answer file sdsdsd with type|jpg| ... Should only show JPEG files in the dialog, but doesn't! ALL files can be selected :-/ Using that string I get the same result as you, but it could be because the empty first part of the string is throwing it off. The type specifier has three parts: the description, the Windows file extension, and the Mac file type, each separated by a pipe (|). I've found the Mac portion can be omitted, but the description seems to be required. When I use: answer file sdsdsd with type Image files|jpg ...it works as expected. -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: answer file sdsdsd with type... broken on Win?
Hi Mark, thanks for testing! Klaus, The following works fine on Win XP: answer file with type Stack|rev| But will fail if you omit the Stack part :-/ This used to work fine before 2.9x But looks like revmail is also broken: With a field xyz containing lots of umlauts fkjdfkjd üüääöö üüäö??ßßß ÜÄÖ I get this in the body in Outlook Win: fkjdfkjdfüüääöö üüäö??ÃYÃYÃYÃY ÃoÃÃ- Works fine on the Mac of course... Big fun! :-/ Best regards, Mark Schonewille -- Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Best Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: answer file sdsdsd with type... broken on Win?
Hi Richard, Klaus Major wrote: can someone check if this works on Windows before I bugreport it? ... answer file sdsdsd with type|jpg| ... Should only show JPEG files in the dialog, but doesn't! ALL files can be selected :-/ Using that string I get the same result as you, but it could be because the empty first part of the string is throwing it off. Thanks for testing, but has been working this way before Rev 2.9X. The type specifier has three parts: the description, the Windows file extension, and the Mac file type, each separated by a pipe (|). I've found the Mac portion can be omitted, but the description seems to be required. When I use: answer file sdsdsd with type Image files|jpg ...it works as expected. OK, will have to change my (previously working) script accordingly, thanks. -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com Best Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Query about mod operator
Thanks Jim and Colin, especially the cautions about integer functions used for non-integer operations. Turns out I snipped out (after missing in my scan-over) the examples that would have proved your points, namely: 0.25, 0, 0 0.5, 0, 0 0.75, 0.5, 0 These are the only exact divisors of 8 for which the mods come out correctly, that is, as 0. .25 decimal = .01 binary, exactly .5 decimal = .1 binary, exactly .75 decimal = .11 binary, exactly That said, 4 things: 1) Other languages have an fmod for floating point, could Rev? (or does it have one that is hidden?). 2) Because I don't know of an fmod, when I need to use such functionality, I write my own function that bypasses the non- integer / binary problems. 3) That usually involves converting to integer, using the built in function, and converting back. I have never been unable to produce a function this way that gives the correct values (except extreme fringe-of-precision numbers). 4) A related joke that hard-core programmers probably know already: Why do programmers have trouble distinguishing between Christmas and Halloween? Because 25 dec = 31 oct. (for those not understanding, octal is base 8, and is a direct conversion from base 2, so used some in nitty gritty low level and hardware programming (still used? I'm not sure, I don't). In octal, 31 represents three 8s and one 1, 24+1= 25 in decimal. ) nerdy, nerdy, nerdy, - Mick On Apr 22, 2008, at 6:48 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Message: 3 Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 11:43:20 -0700 From: Jim Ault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mick, It seems thatd divides 8 if and only if the mod is NOT correct (until we get to 1, of course. I got similar results using 7 instead of 8.. Seems like it should work, I think it's a bug. You need to use caution when working with fractions in computer operations. Binary means that math involving fractions in base 10 is not precise as you would normally think about it. This has been covered on the list in the last couple months. I think that 'mod' would exhibit the same apparent irregularities that all other math functions do when dealing with fractions. If you want to be more accurate in this case: put 100 into mult put ((8 * mult) mod (div * mult))/ mult into theDiff but again, you need to be aware of the binary nature of computers expressing fractions when calculating theDiff. All computer languages have the same limitation. This is why floating point libraries are added to scientific processing to achieve accuracy for using decimal values. Hope this helps shed light on the subject. Jim Ault Las Vegas On 4/21/08 11:18 AM, Mick Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting, I don't think it has to do with dividing by zero I ran this script: ON tst REPEAT WITH i = 1 to 100 put i * .01 into iDiv put 8 mod iDiv into modiDiv put 8 div iDiv into intQuotient put 8 - (intQuotient * iDiv + modiDiv) into theDiff put iDiv , modiDiv , theDiff into line i of field 1 END repeat END tst The (partial) results are: 0.01, 0.01, -0.01 0.02, 0.02, -0.02 snip 0.98, 0.16, 0 0.99, 0.08, 0 1, 0, 0 It seems thatd divides 8 if and only if the mod is NOT correct (until we get to 1, of course. I got similar results using 7 instead of 8.. Seems like it should work, I think it's a bug. - Mick Message: 15 Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:39:33 -0400 From: Colin Holgate [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Apr 21, 2008, at 10:11 AM, Paul Williams wrote: why does 8 mod 0.05 return 0.05 ? Mod is normally an integer operation, and as you wouldn't want to risk a divide by zero issue, perhaps it divides by at least 1? That would give a remainder that was equal to the fraction. ___ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 13:30:47 -0700 From: Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...and from the docs... Note: Using non-integer number and divisor usually produces sensible results. However, mathematically, modulus is generally defined as a function over the integers, and the results using non-integers may not consistently be what you expect. -- Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
did the filename changed from 2.8 to 2.9?
Hi there, With Rev 2.8 I have build a simple code to get the path to a subfolder of my app, which worked fine in 2.8. It looks like this: put the filename of me into tPathApp -- 2.9: /Volumes/myApp/ set the itemdelimiter to slash if the platform = MacOS then delete item -4 to -1 of tPathApp -- 2.9: empty else delete item -1 of tPathApp end if put tPathApp /pics/ into tPathPic -- 2.9: /pics/ Migrating my stack to 2.9 my code doesn't work anymore on Mac. tPathApp contains just /pics/ and not: /Volumes/myApp/pics/ what I wanted it to be, where I am not surprised, when reading my code now. What the hell did I wanted to delete with item -4 to -1 from the filename :)? Why did it worked under 2.8 and why doesn't it work under 2.9 anymore? I am completely puzzled. Btw. On Win it does work on 2.9 as on 2.8. Because I don't have a Mac available right now, testing is really hard. Can anybody shed some light on this mystery? Thank you ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
comment on - Wrong way round - Revolution
There is a movie studio in Santa Monica that has the name Revolution Studios (and another in France Revolution Studio of which I've never seen a film, just on google) and I wonder if there has been any problem with the names. I chuckle every time I see it at the beginning of a film. - Mick On Apr 22, 2008, at 6:48 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Message: 31 Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 08:36:37 -0700 From: Paul Looney [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Wrong way round - Revolution To: Revolution use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Richard Gaskin wrote: Revolution is a fine name by itself... Actually it is a terrible name. It means overthrow the government or go round and round. I believe this name has been costing the company sales and credibility for years. One would get a much better name by simply dropping the last three syllables. Certainly this should be done before mass distribution commences. BTW, I hope none of the non-US visitors to the convention in Las Vegas tell Customs that they are going to a revolution meeting! Paul Looney ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: did the filename changed from 2.8 to 2.9?
Hi Tiemo, Hi there, With Rev 2.8 I have build a simple code to get the path to a subfolder of my app, which worked fine in 2.8. It looks like this: put the filename of me into tPathApp -- 2.9: /Volumes/myApp/ set the itemdelimiter to slash if the platform = MacOS then delete item -4 to -1 of tPathApp -- 2.9: empty else delete item -1 of tPathApp end if put tPathApp /pics/ into tPathPic -- 2.9: /pics/ Migrating my stack to 2.9 my code doesn't work anymore on Mac. tPathApp contains just /pics/ and not: /Volumes/myApp/pics/ what I wanted it to be, where I am not surprised, when reading my code now. What the hell did I wanted to delete with item -4 to -1 from the filename :)? Why did it worked under 2.8 and why doesn't it work under 2.9 anymore? I am completely puzzled. Btw. On Win it does work on 2.9 as on 2.8. Because I don't have a Mac available right now, testing is really hard. Works fine here. We use it in our runtimes to set the path to externals manually and did not have any problems. Can anybody shed some light on this mystery? Thank you OK, tit for tat :-) Could you please run this line on Windows in the messagebox and see if this works OK?: revmail [EMAIL PROTECTED],, üäöüäüßßÜÄÖ,üäöüäüßßÜÄÖ I get glibberish in Outlook here :-/ Best Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: did the filename changed from 2.8 to 2.9?
On 22 Apr 2008, at 15:24, Klaus Major wrote: Works fine here. We use it in our runtimes to set the path to externals manually and did not have any problems. Same here. No changes seen between 2.8 and 2.9. Ian ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Query about mod operator
There's a long-standing debate between engineers and people about whether computers should be made to think like humans or the other way around. For microchip instruction sets I'll leave that debate to the pros in that field, but with high-level languages like Transcript I tend to favor people. In a related discussion on the trunc function some time ago, I came up with this more reliable alternative: function logicalTrunc n if n is not a number then return NAN get offset(., n) if it 0 then delete char it to -1 of n end if return n end logicalTrunc which Kay C. Lan made more efficient with: function anotherLogicalTrunc n if n is not a number then return NAN set the itemDelimiter to . return item 1 of n end anotherLogicalTrunc Similarly, it seems we could do something like this for mod: function logicalMod n set the itemdel to . get item 2 of n if it is empty then return 0 else return it end logicalMod Where would this fail? And should we expect a high-level language to return results like this from the engine directly, or is there some benefit to having illogical byproducts of microchip design as our result that I'm not understanding? -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: did the filename changed from 2.8 to 2.9?
And what are the items -4 to -1 in the Mac path? Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:use-revolution- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Ian Wood Gesendet: Dienstag, 22. April 2008 16:30 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: did the filename changed from 2.8 to 2.9? On 22 Apr 2008, at 15:24, Klaus Major wrote: Works fine here. We use it in our runtimes to set the path to externals manually and did not have any problems. Same here. No changes seen between 2.8 and 2.9. Ian ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Query about mod operator
At 7:31 AM -0700 4/22/08, Richard Gaskin wrote: if n is not a number then return NAN get offset(., n) Do you know that in many countries a number might be written like this?: 10.000,1234 Try setting your International number settings to Belgium, you'll see. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Query about mod operator
Colin Holgate wrote: At 7:31 AM -0700 4/22/08, Richard Gaskin wrote: if n is not a number then return NAN get offset(., n) Do you know that in many countries a number might be written like this?: 10.000,1234 Try setting your International number settings to Belgium, you'll see. True. Let's say we account for the delimiter, since we're proposing an engine change and it's a one-liner to obtain that from the OS. Can you think of any reason why a high-level language wouldn't return results like what's proposed? -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AW: did the filename changed from 2.8 to 2.9?
Hi Tiemo, And what are the items -4 to -1 in the Mac path? Anatomy of a Mac executable bundle: Name of App.app/Contents/MacOS/Name of App Tiemo Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Option Menu Problem
Hi All, I have an option menu that is set dynamically based on a list of items. The list can be empty, on the menu object I have the showName property set true. When the list is not empty all works ok, when an item is selected, the new selection is shown as the menu contents, however when the list is empty the name of the menu object shows in the object contents rather that it just being empty. If I set the show name property to false then when the list is empty it shows as empty in the contents but when not empty the selected item is not displayed when selected. How can I get the desired effect? Thanks a lot All the Best Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Option Menu Problem
On Apr 22, 2008, at 11:11 AM, Dave wrote: I have an option menu that is set dynamically based on a list of items. The list can be empty, on the menu object I have the showName property set true. When the list is not empty all works ok, when an item is selected, the new selection is shown as the menu contents, however when the list is empty the name of the menu object shows in the object contents rather that it just being empty. If I set the show name property to false then when the list is empty it shows as empty in the contents but when not empty the selected item is not displayed when selected. How can I get the desired effect? Try setting the text to a space ( ) and disabling the menu when there are no items to select. Will this work for you? Regards, -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems ScreenSteps: http://www.screensteps.com Developer Resources: http://revolution.bluemangolearning.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: AW: did the filename changed from 2.8 to 2.9?
Hi Klaus, so this operation seems to be correct. Could the problem be in addressing the relative path to the subfolder /pics/ of the application? Could there something have been changed or to be set? Or am I on the wrong lane? Tiemo And what are the items -4 to -1 in the Mac path? Anatomy of a Mac executable bundle: Name of App.app/Contents/MacOS/Name of App Tiemo Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
lock screen question
Hello Fellow Revolutionaries, I need to find out if multiple lock screens will actually cause an unlock screen in between. Or what else is causing the screen update. Example on SomeHandler lock screen send SomeOtherHandler pParam to me in 5 end SomeHandler --Can still see screen update here on SomeOtherHandler pParam lock screen -- do some stuff here myupdatescreen end SomeOtherHnadler -- Can still see screen update here on myupdatescreen lock screen -- do a lot of window switching -- Final unlock screen here to see the results onscreen (supposedly) unlock screen end myupdatescreen I was thinking that: lock screen lock screen lock screen unlock screen was producing an unlock somehow in between each call. My problem is even more complicated because I am executing the original script from a group that will be deleted before this is done. Yet I can still see the grp being deleted flash to what's behind it before a new image is put in place. Thanks Tom McGrath ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Open file in default folder and read automatically (short description)
Hello List, Working on a script to 'check for updates' of a rev stand alone (not the Rev program itself or its engine). Short explanation: Read plain text from a file automatically from the default Folder (NOT using the answer file: routine). Then perform if/then tasks on the retrieved value. Longer explanation: Download a plain text file with a program's latest version number 303 and check against that which is in the standalone. If the number is lower in the stand alone, offer an update to user. From the stack I have a method of manually asking for the downloaded file vers.txt, but I don't want the user to go seaching for the file --its in the default Folder. There MUST me a way to seamlessly import contents of this (plain text) file, but all the documented methods don't work for me. I've tried countless ways, but no joy. So what am I missing? Script so far (which gets file contents manually) is below: -- start on mouseUp libURLDownloadToFile http://www.clubtype.co.uk/vers.txt,vers.txt global gFilePath answer file select a file if it contains .txt then put URL (file: it) into AddListContents put it into gFilePath put AddListContents into field F2 --so I can see and check the value -- then do number comparisons end mouseUp Thanks, Adrian __ Club Type http://www.clubtype.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: lock screen question
Hi Tom, Locking the screen before switching windows can cause the screen to inlock or windows to be rendered completely while. Don't do this. If you want to unlock the screen, you need to issue the unlock command at least as often as the lock command. The screen is automatically unlocked when the handler, which locked the screen, finishes. Best regards, Mark Schonewille -- Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz A large collection of scripts for HyperCard, Revolution, SuperCard and other programming languages can be found at http://runrev.info On 22 apr 2008, at 17:53, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Hello Fellow Revolutionaries, I need to find out if multiple lock screens will actually cause an unlock screen in between. Or what else is causing the screen update. snip ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: lock screen question
Are you in script debug mode? screen cannot be locked if that is true. Jim Ault Las Vegas On 4/22/08 8:53 AM, Thomas McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Fellow Revolutionaries, I need to find out if multiple lock screens will actually cause an unlock screen in between. Or what else is causing the screen update. Example on SomeHandler lock screen send SomeOtherHandler pParam to me in 5 end SomeHandler --Can still see screen update here on SomeOtherHandler pParam lock screen -- do some stuff here myupdatescreen end SomeOtherHnadler -- Can still see screen update here on myupdatescreen lock screen -- do a lot of window switching -- Final unlock screen here to see the results onscreen (supposedly) unlock screen end myupdatescreen I was thinking that: lock screen lock screen lock screen unlock screen was producing an unlock somehow in between each call. My problem is even more complicated because I am executing the original script from a group that will be deleted before this is done. Yet I can still see the grp being deleted flash to what's behind it before a new image is put in place. Thanks Tom McGrath ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Option Menu Problem
On 22 Apr 2008, at 16:18, Trevor DeVore wrote: On Apr 22, 2008, at 11:11 AM, Dave wrote: I have an option menu that is set dynamically based on a list of items. The list can be empty, on the menu object I have the showName property set true. When the list is not empty all works ok, when an item is selected, the new selection is shown as the menu contents, however when the list is empty the name of the menu object shows in the object contents rather that it just being empty. If I set the show name property to false then when the list is empty it shows as empty in the contents but when not empty the selected item is not displayed when selected. How can I get the desired effect? Try setting the text to a space ( ) and disabling the menu when there are no items to select. Will this work for you? Ok, that kind of works except I set the text contents in the mouseDown hander of the menu and if disabled this handler doesn't get called. Why doesn't it work like a regular popup menu ala MacOS X? Any other ideas on how to fix this? All the Best Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Open file in default folder and read automatically (short description)
On 22 Apr 2008, at 16:53, Adrian Williams wrote: Hello List, Working on a script to 'check for updates' of a rev stand alone (not the Rev program itself or its engine). Short explanation: Read plain text from a file automatically from the default Folder (NOT using the answer file: routine). Then perform if/then tasks on the retrieved value. I've just done this myself last week. Why not use something like: put URL http://www.example.com/exampleupdatefile.text; into tData Then test against what's in tData? There's no need to download the text file to disk and then open it in Rev. Ian ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Open file in default folder and read automatically (short description)
Thanks Ian -- works a treat! Adrian On 22 Apr 2008, at 17:06, Ian Wood wrote: put URL http://www.example.com/exampleupdatefile.text; into tData Then test against what's in tData? There's no need to download the text file to disk and then open it in Rev. Ian __ Club Type http://www.clubtype.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Query about mod operator
At 7:52 AM -0700 4/22/08, Richard Gaskin wrote: True. Let's say we account for the delimiter, since we're proposing an engine change and it's a one-liner to obtain that from the OS. It seems wrong to try and fix a math issue with a string hack. Can you think of any reason why a high-level language wouldn't return results like what's proposed? No. Either it should be integer and only return integers, or it should be floating pointing, and return decimal values too. Flash does floating point mod, but with the limits of binary arithmetic (4.3 % 2.1 = 0.09964), Director uses integers (4.3 mod 2.1 = 0), and Rev and HyperCard use floating point, but with repaired results (4.3 mod 2.1 = 0.1). I'm now not sure what the problem case is? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: lock screen question
Bonjour Thomas, Actually, lock and unlock screen work as a pair: They are 'stacked'. This means that after two 'lock screen', an 'unlock screen' is not enough to unlock screen: you need two of them. Parity between lock and unlock screen is compulsory :-) If you are lost you can use: on UnlockScreen repeat until not the lockScreen set the lockScreen to false end repeat end UnlockScreen Or the opposite, of course... Le 22 avr. 08 à 17:53, Thomas McGrath III a écrit : Hello Fellow Revolutionaries, I need to find out if multiple lock screens will actually cause an unlock screen in between. Or what else is causing the screen update. Example on SomeHandler lock screen send SomeOtherHandler pParam to me in 5 end SomeHandler --Can still see screen update here on SomeOtherHandler pParam lock screen -- do some stuff here myupdatescreen end SomeOtherHnadler -- Can still see screen update here on myupdatescreen lock screen -- do a lot of window switching -- Final unlock screen here to see the results onscreen (supposedly) unlock screen end myupdatescreen I was thinking that: lock screen lock screen lock screen unlock screen was producing an unlock somehow in between each call. My problem is even more complicated because I am executing the original script from a group that will be deleted before this is done. Yet I can still see the grp being deleted flash to what's behind it before a new image is put in place. Thanks Tom McGrath ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Best regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. Plugins and tutorials for Revolution: http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Query about mod operator
Colin Holgate wrote: At 7:52 AM -0700 4/22/08, Richard Gaskin wrote: True. Let's say we account for the delimiter, since we're proposing an engine change and it's a one-liner to obtain that from the OS. It seems wrong to try and fix a math issue with a string hack. Agreed, but it seems preferable to illogical results. :) Maybe some day those who design microchip instruction sets will overcome this issue, but as long as their work produces erroneous results we have to find a way to cope as best we can. -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AW: AW: did the filename changed from 2.8 to 2.9?
Hi Tiemo, Hi Klaus, so this operation seems to be correct. Could the problem be in addressing the relative path to the subfolder /pics/ of the application? Could there something have been changed or to be set? Or am I on the wrong lane? Sorry, no idea so far... But you could simply use the directory when your standalone starts :-) Since this will return (be) the folder containing your app on Mac and Windows! Your script is only necessary if you want to put/retrieve something INSIDE the App-bundle on a Mac! Maybe this is what you need. Tiemo Best Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de P.S. Did you try revmail with lots of umlauts in the subject/body? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Option Menu Problem
On Apr 22, 2008, at 12:04 PM, Dave wrote: Ok, that kind of works except I set the text contents in the mouseDown hander of the menu and if disabled this handler doesn't get called. Why doesn't it work like a regular popup menu ala MacOS X? Any other ideas on how to fix this? You could just enter the space for the text but not disable the menu. That way no title displays but you still get clicks messages. This will be addressed in a future release (new behavior in 2.9). Check out the notes in this bug report: http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=5747 Regards, -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems www.bluemangolearning.com-www.screensteps.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: AW: AW: did the filename changed from 2.8 to 2.9?
Thank you Klaus, I will give it a try, last support question... what is the difference between the directory and the defaultfolder? I just wanted to use the defaultfolder. Thanks Tiemo But you could simply use the directory when your standalone starts :-) Since this will return (be) the folder containing your app on Mac and Windows! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AW: AW: AW: did the filename changed from 2.8 to 2.9?
Hi Tiemo, Thank you Klaus, I will give it a try, last support question... what is the difference between the directory and the defaultfolder? I None! :-) just wanted to use the defaultfolder. Thanks Tiemo Best Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de P.S. Could you PLEASE run this (revmail with many umlauts) in the message box on Windows? revmail [EMAIL PROTECTED],, üäöüäüßßÜÄÖ,üäöüäüßßÜÄÖ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Query about mod operator
On Apr 22, 2008, at 12:25 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: It seems wrong to try and fix a math issue with a string hack. Consider that everything is a string in Revolution, and then not so much. ;-) -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsystems.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Option Menu Problem
Try setting it to a dash. Visually that gives a pretty good indicator of no choice. -- Humorous sports t-shirts http://www.villagetshirts.com WlND0WS and MAClNT0SH shareware games http://www.gypsyware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Wrong way round - Revolution
Paul- or go round and round. rotfl BTW, I hope none of the non-US visitors to the convention in Las Vegas tell Customs that they are going to a revolution meeting! When we arrived in Malta for the last conference I was very careful to tell the immigration folks that I was going to a software development conference and leave it at that... -- Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
minimalist IDE
Hi, I'm looking for a minimalist Rev IDE. ( Rev 2.9 ) I'm writing an external, using Xcode/MacOSx. Xcode launches Rev for every new test, and this launching time is quite long and annoying. Ideally, the goal is to launch Rev IDE as fast as possible. Well, I'd like to have a very basic IDE. Ok, I can get rid of all the plug-ins, but what about the libraries and others stack from the IDE ? Thanks for any hints. Best Regards, Thierry ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: minimalist IDE
Thierry, Many of us use the Metacard IDE: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MC_IDE/ You'd need your own Yahoo groups login to get the IDE files downloads. Shari Hi, I'm looking for a minimalist Rev IDE. ( Rev 2.9 ) I'm writing an external, using Xcode/MacOSx. Xcode launches Rev for every new test, and this launching time is quite long and annoying. Ideally, the goal is to launch Rev IDE as fast as possible. Well, I'd like to have a very basic IDE. Ok, I can get rid of all the plug-ins, but what about the libraries and others stack from the IDE ? Thanks for any hints. Best Regards, Thierry -- Humorous sports t-shirts http://www.villagetshirts.com WlND0WS and MAClNT0SH shareware games http://www.gypsyware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: minimalist IDE
Thierry wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a minimalist Rev IDE. ( Rev 2.9 ) That's easy. Use the MetaCard IDE. The easiest way to get it is to download the MC Setup stack and open it in Rev. It will automatically download the latest MC IDE and install your licensed Rev engine: http://www.hyperactivesw.com/revnet/metacard_setup.zip Instructions for use are in the Help within the stack. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Query about mod operator
At 1:34 PM -0400 4/22/08, Troy Rollins wrote: It seems wrong to try and fix a math issue with a string hack. Consider that everything is a string in Revolution, and then not so much. ;-) Correction then, it seems wrong to try and fix a math issue with a hack of any sort. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: lock screen question
Thanks Mark, You answered both of my questions. They need to be paired AND the reason my screen was unlocking was because the handler that locked it was finished and a new one was started. Any ideas on how to keep the screen locked across multiple handlers??? Thanks again, Tom McGrath On Apr 22, 2008, at 12:03 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi Tom, Locking the screen before switching windows can cause the screen to inlock or windows to be rendered completely while. Don't do this. If you want to unlock the screen, you need to issue the unlock command at least as often as the lock command. The screen is automatically unlocked when the handler, which locked the screen, finishes. Best regards, Mark Schonewille ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: lock screen question
Thomas McGrath III wrote: Thanks Mark, You answered both of my questions. They need to be paired AND the reason my screen was unlocking was because the handler that locked it was finished and a new one was started. Any ideas on how to keep the screen locked across multiple handlers??? The screen isn't unlocked until all pending handlers have completed. If you call your other handlers from within the first one, it should stay locked. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: lock screen question
Thanks Jim, This time I was not but i have been confused at other times by that while walking through a script. It turns out the unlock was happening across multiple handlers. I need to figure a way around that? Thanks again, Tom McGrath On Apr 22, 2008, at 12:03 PM, Jim Ault wrote: Are you in script debug mode? screen cannot be locked if that is true. Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: lock screen question
Bonjour Eric, That is good to know but makes me question what or how the screen still unlocks at the end of a handler even though I have not put an unlock screen in there??? I will clean up my pairs anyway. Thanks again, Tom On Apr 22, 2008, at 12:34 PM, Eric Chatonet wrote: Bonjour Thomas, Actually, lock and unlock screen work as a pair: They are 'stacked'. This means that after two 'lock screen', an 'unlock screen' is not enough to unlock screen: you need two of them. Parity between lock and unlock screen is compulsory :-) If you are lost you can use: on UnlockScreen repeat until not the lockScreen set the lockScreen to false end repeat end UnlockScreen Or the opposite, of course... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: lock screen question
Jac, It is not however staying locked. Could it be because the original handler is in a group that is deleted as a part of the handler jumping? Tom McGrath On Apr 22, 2008, at 3:28 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Thomas McGrath III wrote: Thanks Mark, You answered both of my questions. They need to be paired AND the reason my screen was unlocking was because the handler that locked it was finished and a new one was started. Any ideas on how to keep the screen locked across multiple handlers??? The screen isn't unlocked until all pending handlers have completed. If you call your other handlers from within the first one, it should stay locked. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Fwd: 2.9 Upgrade SCOOP: Secrets Revealed
I thought this new marketing was pretty funny. I'm curious how many Users are Going Wild Over the New Manual? I mean, I read them and the new sections are great and I did learn a lot from them especially the arrays section. But I am not sure my reaction was one of Going Wild, that's all. This makes me imagine people jumping around screaming and hollering Wooo Yah! Yaho!Yipeee! Woopedy Dooo Yaaa! Tom McGrath - (grinning in a non-wild kind of way) On Apr 22, 2008, at 1:23 PM, Runtime Revolution Ltd wrote: Users Go Wild Over New Manual Developers discover cool aspects of Revolution coding in the new User Guide, thanks to new sections on arrays, XML, encoding/decoding data, Unicode, printing, multimedia, and Internet functions. It doesn't hurt the printed copy is 50% off for a short time when you order Revolution with coupon code BOOK29. READ MORE ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: minimalist IDE
Thanks Shari Jacqueline, I'm looking for a minimalist Rev IDE. ( Rev 2.9 ) That's easy. Use the MetaCard IDE. How could have missed this one... So back in the 97s ! The easiest way to get it is to download the MC Setup stack and open it in Rev. It will automatically download the latest MC IDE and install your licensed Rev engine: http://www.hyperactivesw.com/revnet/metacard_setup.zip Instructions for use are in the Help within the stack. Works like a charm Great stack, Jacqueline, thanks for that too. Regards, Thierry ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: lock screen question
Tom, Deleting an object that contains a running handler would cause an error. Looking at your original example again, it is logical that your screen unlocks: on SomeHandler lock screen send SomeOtherHandler pParam to me in 5 end SomeHandler You tell Rev to continue executing someHandler and run the someOtherHandler handler 5 ticks later. As soon as someHandler has finished, the screen will unlock. Now, if you run this as on SomeHandler lock screen send SomeOtherHandler pParam to me end SomeHandler the screen will stay locked while someOtherHandler finishes. If you have another line send yetAnotherHandler to me in x in the someOtherHandler handler, that handler will finish, then someHandler will finish, the screen will be unlocked, and eventually yetAnotherHandler will run. Best regards, Mark Schonewille -- Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz A large collection of scripts for HyperCard, Revolution, SuperCard and other programming languages can be found at http://runrev.info On 22 apr 2008, at 21:40, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Jac, It is not however staying locked. Could it be because the original handler is in a group that is deleted as a part of the handler jumping? Tom McGrath ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Upgrade SCOOP: Secrets Revealed
I think when I receive a paper copy I might go wild or at least lose a little reserve. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AW: AW: AW: did the filename changed from 2.8 to 2.9?
Don't use the default folder as code can set the default folder to something else sometimes without you realizing. I have been using the effective filename of this stack (works well) as I didn't know about the directory. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Field creation manipulation in a standalone?
Hello everyone: I wonder if it's possible for me to set up my stack so that a user in the standalone can create a field, drag it to whatever size he or she desires, and then return to the browse tool. I want the user in the standalone to be able to drag out the size and shape of the field. When I create a button with the script ... on mouseUp set the tool to field end mouseUp ... in the IDE, then make a standalone, then click on the button in the standalone, I get crosshairs. When I then click or attempt to drag out a field, I get a 1 millimeter square (presumably a field), but I can't do anything with it. Not only that, but I can no longer click on any button. If this is possible, any hints as to how to go about it would be greatly appreciated. Paul Gabel Santa Cruz, California ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Working with csv files that are 5000 lines or more
I see you on a lot of emails doing cool stuff so I appreciate you spending your valuable time answering the questions My pleasure, Jim! Glad I could help... :-) Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Query about mod operator
On Apr 22, 2008, at 1:45 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: Correction then, it seems wrong to try and fix a math issue with a hack of any sort. I'll go along with that. -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsystems.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: lock screen question
Bonsoir Tom, In my experience, even if the engine unlocks screen at the end of a handler, I always prefer to do it myself when appropriate (even at the end of the handler), especially on Mac OS X: You'll see that your app's 'reactivity' will appear far better. Le 22 avr. 08 à 21:31, Thomas McGrath III a écrit : Bonjour Eric, That is good to know but makes me question what or how the screen still unlocks at the end of a handler even though I have not put an unlock screen in there??? I will clean up my pairs anyway. Thanks again, Tom On Apr 22, 2008, at 12:34 PM, Eric Chatonet wrote: Bonjour Thomas, Actually, lock and unlock screen work as a pair: They are 'stacked'. This means that after two 'lock screen', an 'unlock screen' is not enough to unlock screen: you need two of them. Parity between lock and unlock screen is compulsory :-) If you are lost you can use: on UnlockScreen repeat until not the lockScreen set the lockScreen to false end repeat end UnlockScreen Or the opposite, of course... Best regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. Plugins and tutorials for Revolution: http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: did the filename changed from 2.8 to 2.9?
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 12:12 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, With Rev 2.8 I have build a simple code to get the path to a subfolder of my app, which worked fine in 2.8. It looks like this: put the filename of me into tPathApp -- 2.9: /Volumes/myApp/ set the itemdelimiter to slash if the platform = MacOS then delete item -4 to -1 of tPathApp -- 2.9: empty else delete item -1 of tPathApp end if put tPathApp /pics/ into tPathPic -- 2.9: /pics/ Is this running from a substack? What happens if you use the effective filename? Here is my handler for finding the folder, which work in either the IDE (finding the .rev file) or in a standalone (finding the .app). function applicationFolder put the effective filename of this stack into tFull put empty into tFolder set the itemdel to / repeat for each item i in tFull if i contains .app or i contains .rev then exit repeat put i / after tFolder end repeat return tFolder end applicationFolder Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re:Query about mod operator
code below, comments interspersed, - Mick Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 07:31:42 -0700 From: Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Query about mod operator There's a long-standing debate between engineers and people about whether computers should be made to think like humans or the other way around. For microchip instruction sets I'll leave that debate to the pros in that field, but with high-level languages like Transcript I tend to favor people. Mick: I agree completely it seems we could do something like this for mod: function logicalMod n set the itemdel to . get item 2 of n if it is empty then return 0 else return it end logicalMod Where would this fail? mod as a function needs (at least) two arguments (unless I misunderstand what you are doing with this ... only giving integer results, only mod'g by 1?) In the past I have done something like this: FUNCTION rMod n, nMod, dMod -- rational mod, returns n mod (nMod/dMod) -- assumes nMod and dMod are integers put n*dMod into nMults -- the number of multiples that n is, of 1/ dMod return (round(nMults mod nMod)/dMod) --OR -- return ( round(nMults mod nMod) / dMod ) -- -- if the mod is desired as a fraction END rMod and to test it: ON tst2 put displayMod(8, 35, 100) into line 1 of field 1 put displayMod(8, 25, 100) into line 2 of field 1 put displayMod(8, 4, 3) into line 3 of field 1 put displayMod(8, 5, 3) into line 4 of field 1 put displayMod(8.1, 1, 3) into line 5 of field 1 put displayMod(45, 7, 1) into line 6 of field 1 END tst2 FUNCTION displayMod n,nMod,dMod return n , nMod , dMod , rMod (n,nMod,dMod) END displayMod the results: 8, 35, 100, 0.3 8, 25, 100, 0 8, 4, 3, 0 8, 5, 3, 1.33 8.1, 1, 3, 0 45, 7, 1, 3 These are the expected / intended results. There are other variations depending on your needs, see the end of the rMod function for an example. Pretty clunky to use, though, unless you are actually working with fractions or arbitrarily limiting your decimal precision. And should we expect a high-level language to return results like this from the engine directly, or is there some benefit to having illogical byproducts of microchip design as our result that I'm not understanding? Mick: it would be nice, but not absolutely necessary, IMHO Message: 18 Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 07:52:26 -0700 From: Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Colin Holgate wrote: At 7:31 AM -0700 4/22/08, Richard Gaskin wrote: if n is not a number then return NAN get offset(., n) Do you know that in many countries a number might be written like this?: 10.000,1234 Try setting your International number settings to Belgium, you'll see. True. Let's say we account for the delimiter, since we're proposing an engine change and it's a one-liner to obtain that from the OS. Can you think of any reason why a high-level language wouldn't return results like what's proposed? -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com -- Message: 30 Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 12:25:48 -0400 From: Colin Holgate [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 7:52 AM -0700 4/22/08, Richard Gaskin wrote: True. Let's say we account for the delimiter, since we're proposing an engine change and it's a one-liner to obtain that from the OS. It seems wrong to try and fix a math issue with a string hack. Can you think of any reason why a high-level language wouldn't return results like what's proposed? No. Either it should be integer and only return integers, or it should be floating pointing, and return decimal values too. Flash does floating point mod, but with the limits of binary arithmetic (4.3 % 2.1 = 0.09964), Director uses integers (4.3 mod 2.1 = 0), and Rev and HyperCard use floating point, but with repaired results (4.3 mod 2.1 = 0.1). Mick: agreed, using my function, I get 4.3, 21, 10, 0.1 (I assume, by repaired results you mean something like what I do with round) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: This has to be easy! Tell a program not to open a file
2.7.1 build 236 running on Win XPro 2002 SP 2 running in VMWare 1.1.1 Jim Ault Las Vegas On 4/22/08 4:47 AM, Trevor DeVore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 21, 2008, at 9:26 PM, Jim Ault wrote: That is the catch, there is no manifest folder until after I use the Wizard. There is a '1' in the Version folder, though. Once you add the manifest using the wizard, a folder exists, the '1' exists, and you can edit as your instructions say. What version of Rev did you build the standalone with? 2.9 or an earlier version? Maybe the manifest is a new feature. Let me know and I will update the instructions. Regards, ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
mouseUp 1 and 3 problems
Hi. I've got a field with text in it. There is an elaborate script for the field which is sensitive to which mousebutton was clicked, doing one thing if 1 was clicked, another if 3. I keep getting a problem -- after I right click something, and the script executes, left-clicking produces no response in the field -- right-clicking will produce a response, and then left-clicking works again. So the problem is that I can't seem to right-click, then left-click. Lots of other fields I have seem to work fine doing this, so it must be something in the script?! What should I be looking for, i.e., what could be causing this? Thanks rand valentine ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: mouseUp 1 and 3 problems
On 23 Apr 2008, at 01:50, rand valentine wrote: So the problem is that I can't seem to right-click, then left-click. Lots of other fields I have seem to work fine doing this, so it must be something in the script?! What should I be looking for, i.e., what could be causing this? Thanks I don't really know about a fix, but I got strange problems with mouse too, maybe you can add something to the bug I filed: http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=6396 -- official ChatRev page: http://chatrev.bjoernke.com Chat with other RunRev developers: go stack URL http://homepage.mac.com/bvg/chatrev1.3.rev; ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Reversing a list
On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Sarah Reichelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And the winner is... Jacque (with one modification). local tCount function reverseList pList put the number of lines in pList into tCount sort lines of pList by mySort() return pList end reverseList function mySort subtract 1 from tCount return tCount end mySort OK, this realised this working for me and I finally figured out what was going on - the sort needs to be numeric! So change the sort line to this: sort lines of pList numeric by mySort() Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
User-Agent changing
I was working on communications with a RevOnRockets-based web server, and I was checking the headers of the web request to see whether the request was coming from a Revolution program, or a browser. I had checked earlier and the headers included the line: User-Agent: Revolution (MacOS) In the middle of a debugging session, this suddenly changed to: User-Agent: Metacard (MacOS) How can this be? A restart of Rev fixed it, but it is a bit unnerving to think that this can change suddenly. I am doing nothing with http headers except reading them. Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: User-Agent changing
Sarah Reichelt wrote: I was working on communications with a RevOnRockets-based web server, and I was checking the headers of the web request to see whether the request was coming from a Revolution program, or a browser. I had checked earlier and the headers included the line: User-Agent: Revolution (MacOS) In the middle of a debugging session, this suddenly changed to: User-Agent: Metacard (MacOS) How can this be? Genetic memory. ;) -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
