Re: revCopyFile/revCopyFolder weirdness!

[Christian Langers]

Hi Dave,

I never got this function to work on Mac, that's why I use my own way :


function copyFileToDest pFrom, pTo
  if there is no folder pTo then create folder pTo
  --> Mac <--
  if platform() is "MacOs" then

put ("ditto -rsrc " & q(pFrom) && q(pTo)) into tcomm
get shell(tcomm)
  else
--> Windows <--
set the hideconsolewindows to true
revCopyfile pFrom, pTo
  end if
end copyFileToDest


I think that the function "revCopyfile" uses Applescript and there are  
some issues...



Hope this helped,

Christian



Le 15 sept. 08 à 16:31, Dave a écrit :


Hi Mark,

I suppose it could be, but don't see why, I can copy manually with  
the Finder. How do I find out if its a Permissions Problem?


Thanks a lot
All the Best
Dave

On 15 Sep 2008, at 15:23, Mark Smith wrote:


Could it be a pemissions issue?

Mark

On 15 Sep 2008, at 15:16, Dave wrote:


Hi All,

I'm using RunRev 2.8.1.472 on a Mac and I'm having problems with  
the following code:


put "/Documents/Test/TestApp.app" into mySourcePath
put "/Volumes/TestVol/Folder/" into myDestPath

revCopyFile  mySourcePath, myDestPath
put the result into myResult

When I run this I get an "execution error" in myResult

It's weird because if do a "there is a folder"/"there is a file"  
on the paths, they report true. Also, if I change the destination  
path to /Users/Dave/Desktop/" then it works ok.


I've also tried adding and removing the trailing "/" on the paths  
(which sometimes seems to matter).


I've tried copying the file manually in the finder and this works  
fine.



Does anyone have any ideas on how to solve this problem? I want to  
copy an application bundle file from the HD to a mounted image.


All the Best
Dave


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newbie question

[Jim McNeely]

Hello all,

I appreciated the recent thread where you all welcomed basic  
questions. I am just starting with Revolution, coming from a  
FileMaker background.


I have a table field into which I put the results from a MySQL query,  
triggered by a rawkey event in a search field. It works great so far,  
but I'm just messing around tire-kicking. I also have a slider  
control which I set to the query count, and when you select one of  
the lines in the table field, it shows the details of that record and  
also changes the thumb position of the slider. It all works great, I  
love Revolution a lot.


Here is the question: I want to be able to change the table field's  
selection hilite when you slide the thumb of the slider, but I don't  
see any property for fields like 'hiliteLine'; how do you do that?


Thanks,

Jim McNeely
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Re: Rev 3.0 problems

[Paul Gabel]

Hi Peter:

By any chance, do you have an "if the optionKey is down ..." line in  
your button's script? I've noticed that in 2.9, option-command-click  
on a button (with this line in the button's script) wouldn't trigger  
the underlying optionKey procedure, but in 3.0 (irritatingly) it does.


Paul Gabel

---

On Sep 12, 2008, at 4:25 PM, Peter Brigham wrote:

I do like 3.0 a lot, but there are two things that are annoying to  
me. Has anyone else noticed these?


1) In the new script editor, right-clicking/control-clicking on a  
function or handler hame is supposed to open a script editor panel  
for that function/handler, whichever object's script it might be in.  
This works for me about 20% of the time. I haven't pinned down a  
pattern to it, if there is one. Most of the time I get the generic  
Go to definition/Find in Docs/Set breakpoint/cut/copy/paste popup  
menu, the way I would if I right-clicked on any random word in the  
script.


2) More annoyingly, it used to be in versions <= 2.9 that command- 
option[alt]-clicking (in the IDE) on a button/locked field/graphic  
while using the browse tool used to open the script editor for that  
control. Now, it opens the script editor but also passes the mouseup  
-- so trying to do this on a button opens the script but then  
triggers the button action. This is especially problematic when I  
then get a "cannot save script while executing" alert after editing  
and trying to save the script. For now, I have to change to the edit  
tool before command-option-clicking on a button to edit its script.  
I tried to look into the Rev 3.0 frontscripts to find out where and  
how the mouseup message is being passed but I can't find the place  
where I could tweak the rev scripts to patch this. Anyone else see  
this behavior? Whether yes or no to that question, any pointers on  
how I can block the "pass mouseup" in the rev scripts?


BTW, Jacques, I have loved using your script editor shortcuts and I  
patched your frontscript so it works for me in the new script  
editor. Don't know if you want to release a 3.0 update of this for  
others...


Peter M. Brigham
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Re: newbie question

[Jim McNeely]

It works! THANKS!

Jim

On Sep 15, 2008, at 9:38 AM, Klaus Major wrote:


Hi J9m,


Hello all,

I appreciated the recent thread where you all welcomed basic  
questions. I am just starting with Revolution, coming from a  
FileMaker background.


I have a table field into which I put the results from a MySQL  
query, triggered by a rawkey event in a search field. It works  
great so far, but I'm just messing around tire-kicking. I also  
have a slider control which I set to the query count, and when you  
select one of the lines in the table field, it shows the details  
of that record and also changes the thumb position of the slider.  
It all works great, I love Revolution a lot.


Here is the question: I want to be able to change the table  
field's selection hilite when you slide the thumb of the slider,  
but I don't see any property for fields like 'hiliteLine'; how do  
you do that?


You are almost there, just add a D to the prop:
...
set the hiliteDLines of fld "Your table field here" to the thumbpos  
of sb "your scrollbar here"

...

:-)


Thanks,

Jim McNeely


Best

Klaus Major
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.major-k.de


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Re: Arrays: new and old keys, ii

[Andrew Meit]

One point of speculation which would make a huge difference is how Rev
is actually implementing the arrays. If it is truly a hash table,
providing any sort of in-order traversal of the array elements won't
be happening any time soon. A hash table is an unordered piece of
data, and so to provide any sort of built-in sorting, RunRev would
have to implement workarounds under the hood similar to what people
are already scripting. On the other hand, if they are using something
more like red-black trees, it is trivial to walk the tree in order and
return the elements. Or backwards. Or "next" and "prev" functionality.
But... I have no idea what data structure they are using.


-- Ok, this an important clue why I see and sense some missing aspects/ 
functionality etc in the new arrays.
And I fear it may mean a much longer time before really, really true  
Arrays are fully in Rev.
I don't want or need clever hacks to do simple things that the  
language should be doing for me.
Yes, its good mental exercise figuring what's it all about, but why  
waste that time.

I rather work smart than hard, for what's an x-talk for?
Besides, why is there not a full tutorial explaining you can or cant  
do with the new arrays???


Shalom, Andrew
{Choose Life, Create Hope, Nurture Love, Wrestle Faith...}

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Re: Arrays: new and old keys, ii

[Brian Yennie]

To be fair, lots of languages use hash tables for arrays. And one  
could argue that associative arrays are not the data structure of  
choice for storing ordered data. I agree that some of this stuff would  
be useful, but if you really get down to it, "true arrays" often leave  
tasks like sorting to a higher level of abstraction.


Again, I agree it would be handy... but I also have to say that it's  
not "simple" to create a native array object which makes everyone  
happy with every possible use and still retains all of it's speed and  
ease of use.


I know this has been a winding thread, but maybe we could condense the  
whole thing into a straightforward feature request. If it's very  
popular who knows, maybe we'll see it in Rev 3.1 or later.


So what would it be? A "combine" command which sorts the keys? Or  
returns things in the order they were added? Or?


-- Ok, this an important clue why I see and sense some missing  
aspects/functionality etc in the new arrays.
And I fear it may mean a much longer time before really, really true  
Arrays are fully in Rev.
I don't want or need clever hacks to do simple things that the  
language should be doing for me.
Yes, its good mental exercise figuring what's it all about, but why  
waste that time.

I rather work smart than hard, for what's an x-talk for?
Besides, why is there not a full tutorial explaining you can or cant  
do with the new arrays???




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Re: jaguarpc.com

[J. Landman Gay]

Jim Sims wrote:

I'm trying to evaluate jaguarpc.com for rev cgi hosting BUT
I cannot even reach them!!

Other web sites work just fine.

I think they are in Texas - maybe they are in hurricane alley?

Can anyone reach them?


They're in Houston, yes. My site, which is hosted by them, is still up 
and was never disrupted. Their member announcement says they had to go 
on generator power for several hours but that all their backup and 
re-routing contingencies worked as planned. Their forum also says they 
gave their staff the option of leaving town beforehand so it is likely 
that they are just in the process of coming back and are behind.


I've been very pleased with their service. They recently implemented an 
unlimited amount of data storage on web sites, within reason. ("Don't 
upload your entire mp4 library" was their comment.) My CGIs work great, 
by the way, I never had any of those missing-library issues with them.


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HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
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Re: jaguarpc.com

[Jim Sims]

On Sep 15, 2008, at 7:50 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

They're in Houston, yes. My site, which is hosted by them, is still  
up and was never disrupted. Their member announcement says they had  
to go on generator power for several hours but that all their backup  
and re-routing contingencies worked as planned. Their forum also  
says they gave their staff the option of leaving town beforehand so  
it is likely that they are just in the process of coming back and  
are behind.


I've been very pleased with their service. They recently implemented  
an unlimited amount of data storage on web sites, within reason.  
("Don't upload your entire mp4 library" was their comment.) My CGIs  
work great, by the way, I never had any of those missing-library  
issues with them.


Thanks J.

I was unable to get their web site for a while today (maybe 20-30  
minutes). I figured
that some infrastructure in that area was being worked on, perhaps  
nothing
to do with JaguarPC. Living here in "The land that time forgot", I  
usually

suspect the locals   ;-)  but all other web sites seemed fine.

Thanks a bunch for your tutorial btw. I've been enjoying fiddling with  
CGI

stuff here on my OS X Apache webserver, plus with Andre's Rockets stack.
Big Fun. I signed up with JaguarPC this afternoon.

sims

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Re: newbie question

[Klaus Major]

Hi J9m,


Hello all,

I appreciated the recent thread where you all welcomed basic  
questions. I am just starting with Revolution, coming from a  
FileMaker background.


I have a table field into which I put the results from a MySQL  
query, triggered by a rawkey event in a search field. It works great  
so far, but I'm just messing around tire-kicking. I also have a  
slider control which I set to the query count, and when you select  
one of the lines in the table field, it shows the details of that  
record and also changes the thumb position of the slider. It all  
works great, I love Revolution a lot.


Here is the question: I want to be able to change the table field's  
selection hilite when you slide the thumb of the slider, but I don't  
see any property for fields like 'hiliteLine'; how do you do that?


You are almost there, just add a D to the prop:
...
set the hiliteDLines of fld "Your table field here" to the thumbpos of  
sb "your scrollbar here"

...

:-)


Thanks,

Jim McNeely


Best

Klaus Major
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.major-k.de


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Re: Arrays: new and old keys, ii

[Mark Brownell]

-Original Message-
>From: Brian Yennie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>So what would it be? A "combine" command which sorts the keys? Or  
>returns things in the order they were added? Or?
>

Last-In-First-Out (LIFO) or First-In-First-Out (FIFO)

I would like to see that. I could us that. I could pull-parse XML and 
re-structure it into a FIFO formatted XML styled external storage devices using 
encryption, compression, and base64 encoding inside the well-formed elements of 
that XML. You could store anything this way.

I'm saying that I could use this kind of storage on itself. I can just hear the 
"why would you want to do thats." 

I'm not for the arrays to take a speed hit for it though.

What about something besides level one only for (the keys of) "myArray[3][4]"

All you get now are the keys for "myArray[3]"
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Re: selection question

[Mark Schonewille]

Hi Jim,

I can't tell you why the selectionChanged message isn't sent but I can  
provide you with a simple solution.


-- in field
on selectionChanged
  doLotsOfStuff
end selectionChanged

-- in field
on doLotsOfStuff
  --do lots of stuff
end doLotsOfStuff

-- in slider
on mouseUp
  select line (the thumbPos of me) of fld "Your Table Field"
  send "doLotsOfStuff" to fld "Your Table Field"
end mouseUp

--
Best regards,

Mark Schonewille

Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
http://economy-x-talk.com
http://www.salery.biz
http://facebook.economy-x-talk.com

Benefit from our inexpensive hosting services. See http://economy-x-talk.com/server.html 
 for more info.


On 15 sep 2008, at 23:07, Jim McNeely wrote:


I have a script for a table field like this:

on selectionChanged
--do lots of stuff
end selectionChanged

This works great, if you click a selection or use the arrow keys it  
runs the script perfectly.


I also have this slider control, and I'm trying an experiment where  
you do this:


on mouseup
  put the thumbpos of sb "Slider1" into tNum --as per my last email  
and answer!

  select line tNum of field "resultList"
end mouseup

NOW, it hilites the line as if selected, but does not run the on  
SelectionChanged script.


What's up?!!!

TIA,

Jim


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selection question

[Jim McNeely]

I have a script for a table field like this:

on selectionChanged
--do lots of stuff
end selectionChanged

This works great, if you click a selection or use the arrow keys it  
runs the script perfectly.


 I also have this slider control, and I'm trying an experiment where  
you do this:


on mouseup
   put the thumbpos of sb "Slider1" into tNum --as per my last email  
and answer!

   select line tNum of field "resultList"
end mouseup

NOW, it hilites the line as if selected, but does not run the on  
SelectionChanged script.


What's up?!!!

TIA,

Jim
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Re: jaguarpc.com

[Andre Garzia]

Yo Sims,

I also am on JaguarPC! :-D

You'd be amazed on what I am planning for the next release of RevOnRockets...

Cheers
andre

On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Jim Sims <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Sep 15, 2008, at 7:50 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
>
>> They're in Houston, yes. My site, which is hosted by them, is still up and
>> was never disrupted. Their member announcement says they had to go on
>> generator power for several hours but that all their backup and re-routing
>> contingencies worked as planned. Their forum also says they gave their staff
>> the option of leaving town beforehand so it is likely that they are just in
>> the process of coming back and are behind.
>>
>> I've been very pleased with their service. They recently implemented an
>> unlimited amount of data storage on web sites, within reason. ("Don't upload
>> your entire mp4 library" was their comment.) My CGIs work great, by the way,
>> I never had any of those missing-library issues with them.
>
> Thanks J.
>
> I was unable to get their web site for a while today (maybe 20-30 minutes).
> I figured
> that some infrastructure in that area was being worked on, perhaps nothing
> to do with JaguarPC. Living here in "The land that time forgot", I usually
> suspect the locals   ;-)  but all other web sites seemed fine.
>
> Thanks a bunch for your tutorial btw. I've been enjoying fiddling with CGI
> stuff here on my OS X Apache webserver, plus with Andre's Rockets stack.
> Big Fun. I signed up with JaguarPC this afternoon.
>
> sims
>
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Unicode issues ad infinitum

[rand valentine]

 Hello, fellow Revolution users. I have a quick question, though I really
doubt there's any useful answer. I have begun using a Unicode font in a
dictionary I've made of a North American aboriginal language, Ojibwe. This
language uses Canadian Aboriginal Syllabics. I am using StackRunner to
distribute beta copies of the dictionary to testers, some of whom use Macs
and some Windows (both XP and Vista). If I set a field to the Unicode
syllabics font on my Mac, everything works fine, I get the syllabics
rendering properly. I also find that I do not have problems with versions of
XP I'm running in VMware Fusion on my Macs. But several Windows XP users
report to me that they just get "square boxes" instead of syllabics. So my
guess is that Windows Revolution can't detect a font as a Unicode font if it
has Canadian Aboriginal Syllabics (but not say, Chinese or Japanese), so it
substitutes another Unicode font, which has no syllabics. Could this be the
problem? And is anyone aware of any way around this? All I want is for the
field to respect the font that its been assigned, instead of over-riding
with the wrong Unicode font. Am I missing something? Thanks.

rand valentine


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Re: Mail merge in Run Rev

[Peter Brigham]

On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 07:21:55, James Hurley  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



This is a new area for me, but I'm sure it is a common task for many
of you.

I have a mail merge job for a local election.

I have generated all the data in RR for the letter, i.e. the label
and the greeting for the letter from the election data base. (This
greeting is a little complicated and that's where RR comes in. It is
necessary to construct a greeting for the household, a household
which may contain several people and some with different last names.
Anyway Rev is  good at that part.)

Is there a convenient way to do the merging of this data with the
letter  in RR or should I just export the data to File Maker and
construct the letter there?

In RR would  you store the data and the text of the letter in
variables, putting them together to construct the text for the field
and then revprintfield in a repeat loop, one loop for each letter? Is
this very slow? I have a lot of letters to do.

And how can one deal with the formatting, for example center the
addressee's name and address at the top of the field, RR allows only
alignment for the entire field?

Thanks,

Jim Hurley


What I do is the following:

Create a substack "printLetter" with a header field ("pHdr") at the  
top of the card window and a text field ("pText") below it. Set the  
textAlign of the header field to center and the textAlign of the text  
field to left. Put your boilerplate text in a custom property of the  
text field, complete with dummy placeholders like ,  
, etc. For printing, open the printletter stack invisibly,  
put the boilerplate text into the field from the customProp, replace  
"" with your script-generated salutation in fld "pText",  
replace "" in fld "pText" with your custom greeting for  
that household, etc., ie, customize the text wherever you need by  
using the replace command on established placeholders. Then print the  
card. Most of your time setting this up will be getting the geography  
right so it prints the right size and place on the paper -- look at  
the "print card [from topLeft to rightBottom] [into pageRect]"  
command. Make sure your fields have no visible borders and the  
fillcolor in your printLetter stack is white. You can even get fancy  
and have a logo or other image at the top with your header.


If you have more than one page per letter, it's a little more  
complex. You basically have to roll your own here (presuming you want  
to have pages >=2 have no header), but it's not all that hard. You  
hide the header field for pages >=2 and adjust the height of the text  
field, then scroll repeatedly (there's another way, too). Note that a  
field without scrollbars still scrolls if you script it to do so.


Re speed -- whatever you do in rev will be much faster that your  
printer can handle.


hope this helps,
-- Peter

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Re: List to checkboxes how to?

[Michael]

Thanks Jacque and all,

I figured out how to just give them all a base name, and then find all/
create and move all anew each time I need the set.

I liked the imagesource clue, but then someone said it would break on
different operating systems. But I couldn't see how it would break if a
standard image type were used...?

Thanks,

m


On 9/13/08 9:24 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> One method I've used successfully is to use "imagesource" in the field.

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Re: List to checkboxes how to?

[J. Landman Gay]

Michael wrote:

Thanks Jacque and all,

I figured out how to just give them all a base name, and then find all/
create and move all anew each time I need the set.

I liked the imagesource clue, but then someone said it would break on
different operating systems. But I couldn't see how it would break if a
standard image type were used...?


It won't break. What was meant was that if a new OS update changes the 
appearance of its checkboxes, your embedded checkbox images will look 
old-fashioned and obsolete.


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HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
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Rev not Cocoa-enough??

[Judy Perry]

Hi,

I was just reviewing comments on the macNN Rev thread and came upon this one:

"No cross-platform framework can create an app on the Mac that feels
as native or as usable as a Cocoa app, and the lack of attention to
detail shows"

What?  Am I missing something?  I had thought that Rev made direct
calls to the OS/other abstract geeky things I don't currently need to
know about so that the machine on which the Rev app was deployed drew
native OS controls rather than the Rev engine emulating them.

Is this not the case?

Thought that I'd check before I made an idiot of myself for the
millionth time...

Regards,

Judy
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Re: Rev not Cocoa-enough??

[Russell Martin]

Would you post a URL for this discussion? Thanks.

--- On Mon, 9/15/08, Judy Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Judy Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Rev not Cocoa-enough??
> To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
> Date: Monday, September 15, 2008, 7:11 PM
> Hi,
> 
> I was just reviewing comments on the macNN Rev thread and
> came upon this one:
> 
> "No cross-platform framework can create an app on the
> Mac that feels
> as native or as usable as a Cocoa app, and the lack of
> attention to
> detail shows"
> 
> What?  Am I missing something?  I had thought that Rev made
> direct
> calls to the OS/other abstract geeky things I don't
> currently need to
> know about so that the machine on which the Rev app was
> deployed drew
> native OS controls rather than the Rev engine emulating
> them.
> 
> Is this not the case?
> 
> Thought that I'd check before I made an idiot of myself
> for the
> millionth time...
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Judy
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Re: Rev not Cocoa-enough??

[Judy Perry]

Yup.  Here goes:

http://www.macnn.com/articles/08/09/12/revolution.30/

Thanks!

Judy

On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 8:00 PM, Russell Martin
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Would you post a URL for this discussion? Thanks.
>
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Re: Rev not Cocoa-enough??

[Andre Garzia]

Judy,

yes and no...

Rev applications can't access some stuff that Cocoa applications can.
For example, our field object is not the cocoa framework field object,
we can't have those nice toolbars either... We can't tap the full
cocoalicious things because we'd loose the cross platorm features. The
field object for example needs to behave the same in all platforms, so
in the end, it can't take advantage of all things cocoa frameworks
deliver.

Yes our applications are bundles and they do call OS and Cocoa
frameworks, but they are not as Native as an XCode + Interface builder
application is. If you want to answer that thread, you can point to
the write once, deploy anywhere nature of Revolution, but you can't
tell that you can have eveything a cocoa app can have because you
actually can't.

What the RunRev team delivers is the best of both worlds, it is as
cocoa as it can be while mantaining cross platorm and feature
completeness.

Cheers
andre

On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 10:11 PM, Judy Perry
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I was just reviewing comments on the macNN Rev thread and came upon this one:
>
> "No cross-platform framework can create an app on the Mac that feels
> as native or as usable as a Cocoa app, and the lack of attention to
> detail shows"
>
> What?  Am I missing something?  I had thought that Rev made direct
> calls to the OS/other abstract geeky things I don't currently need to
> know about so that the machine on which the Rev app was deployed drew
> native OS controls rather than the Rev engine emulating them.
>
> Is this not the case?
>
> Thought that I'd check before I made an idiot of myself for the
> millionth time...
>
> Regards,
>
> Judy
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Getting filename of launcher app?

[Devin Asay]

This one's really got me stumped. Or I'm losing my mind. Or both.

Mac OS X 10.5.4. Intel iMac. Rev. 3.0gm-2

I'm using a launcher app that resides on my local drive to launch a  
server-based stack. I want to be able to store files in the App bundle  
of the launcher app from a stack accessed from a web server. But I  
can't for the life of me figure out how to get the path to the  
launcher. The effective filename of the launched stack is empty.  
There's got to be a way to do this. Am I overlooking something really  
obvious?


Head hurting,

Devin

Devin Asay
Humanities Technology and Research Support Center
Brigham Young University

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Re: Getting filename of launcher app?

[Andre Garzia]

Devin,

get the open stacks, one of them should be your launcher, check the
effective filename of the LAUNCHER not launched stack...

I think that should get you going.

Andre

On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 12:12 AM, Devin Asay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This one's really got me stumped. Or I'm losing my mind. Or both.
>
> Mac OS X 10.5.4. Intel iMac. Rev. 3.0gm-2
>
> I'm using a launcher app that resides on my local drive to launch a
> server-based stack. I want to be able to store files in the App bundle of
> the launcher app from a stack accessed from a web server. But I can't for
> the life of me figure out how to get the path to the launcher. The effective
> filename of the launched stack is empty. There's got to be a way to do this.
> Am I overlooking something really obvious?
>
> Head hurting,
>
> Devin
>
> Devin Asay
> Humanities Technology and Research Support Center
> Brigham Young University
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Re: Rev not Cocoa-enough??

[Judy Perry]

Andre,

Thanks for that succinct explanation.

I KNEW I needed to clap my trap until hearing from my betters ;-)

Perhaps the more knowledgeable of you all could weigh in...

Thanks!

Judy

On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 8:09 PM, Andre Garzia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Judy,
>
> yes and no...
>
> Rev applications can't access some stuff that Cocoa applications can.
> For example, our field object is not the cocoa framework field object,
> we can't have those nice toolbars either... We can't tap the full
> cocoalicious things because we'd loose the cross platorm features. The
> field object for example needs to behave the same in all platforms, so
> in the end, it can't take advantage of all things cocoa frameworks
> deliver.
>
> Yes our applications are bundles and they do call OS and Cocoa
> frameworks, but they are not as Native as an XCode + Interface builder
> application is. If you want to answer that thread, you can point to
> the write once, deploy anywhere nature of Revolution, but you can't
> tell that you can have eveything a cocoa app can have because you
> actually can't.
>
> What the RunRev team delivers is the best of both worlds, it is as
> cocoa as it can be while mantaining cross platorm and feature
> completeness.
>
> Cheers
> andre
>
> On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 10:11 PM, Judy Perry
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I was just reviewing comments on the macNN Rev thread and came upon this one:
>>
>> "No cross-platform framework can create an app on the Mac that feels
>> as native or as usable as a Cocoa app, and the lack of attention to
>> detail shows"
>>
>> What?  Am I missing something?  I had thought that Rev made direct
>> calls to the OS/other abstract geeky things I don't currently need to
>> know about so that the machine on which the Rev app was deployed drew
>> native OS controls rather than the Rev engine emulating them.
>>
>> Is this not the case?
>>
>> Thought that I'd check before I made an idiot of myself for the
>> millionth time...
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Judy
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Re: Getting filename of launcher app?

[Chipp Walters]

Devin,
Check 'the address' property.
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Re: Getting filename of launcher app?

[Andre Garzia]

:-O

I love discovering such things

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Re: Unicode issues ad infinitum

[J. Landman Gay]

rand valentine wrote:

 If I set a field to the Unicode
syllabics font on my Mac, everything works fine, I get the syllabics
rendering properly. I also find that I do not have problems with versions of
XP I'm running in VMware Fusion on my Macs. But several Windows XP users
report to me that they just get "square boxes" instead of syllabics. So my
guess is that Windows Revolution can't detect a font as a Unicode font if it
has Canadian Aboriginal Syllabics (but not say, Chinese or Japanese), so it
substitutes another Unicode font, which has no syllabics.


I think Rev recognizes the unicode okay but the assigned font is missing 
on Windows so users are getting substitutions. You'll need to use an 
equivalent font on that OS. If there isn't one native to a Windows 
installation you may need to look into using RevFont to install one.


I'm not sure why it works in emulation on your Mac (I don't use VMware,) 
but it may be that VMware shares your Mac fonts, though that's just a guess.


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Re: Unicode issues ad infinitum

[Lynn Saults]

(I
tried to post this earlier today but got a message that I wasn't a member.
Guess I've been too quiet for too long. I'm sorry if it get posted more than
once but I'm having a hard time and haven't seen it yet.)

I use Revolution to do psychology experiments. I have a program to generate
sequences of simple visual stimuli (arrays of colored squares). A colleague
who does infant research wants to use these stimuli in an experiment. She
presents such sequences on a Mac as quicktime movies. I have modified my
program to export each stimulus display as a picture (a 'snapshot'). Is
there a way to export the sequence of pictures as a quicktime movie from
Revolution or to easily create a quicktime movie from a sequence of picture
(snapshots)? I think I can use iMovie to make a movie from pictures, but
that seems rather tedious and clumsy, especially to get the timings I want.
I would appreciate suggestions about a good way to do this, using Revolution
alone or with externals or using other software.

Thanks!
J Scott Saults, PhD
Research Associate
Department of Psychological Sciences
University of Missouri
Columbia, MO 65211
USA
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Re: Getting filename of launcher app?

[Devin Asay]

Thanks, Chipp and Andre. I take mild comfort in the fact that the  
answer wasn't completely obvious. I used Andre's suggestion before I  
saw Chipp's, but I'm still glad to have that tidbit.


Devin

On Sep 15, 2008, at 9:30 PM, Chipp Walters wrote:


Devin,
Check 'the address' property.
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Re: Unicode issues ad infinitum

[Joe Lewis Wilkins]

FYI, using XP wih VM fusion on my Mac Intel and it doesn't recognize  
the Mac fonts.


Joe Wilkins
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On Sep 15, 2008, at 9:27 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

I'm not sure why it works in emulation on your Mac (I don't use  
VMware,) but it may be that VMware shares your Mac fonts, though  
that's just a guess.


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Re: Unicode issues ad infinitum

[Joe Lewis Wilkins]

Hi Lynn,

How about doing it as a slide show in Rev? That way you can fiddle  
with the timing and add supporting text. That's easy. Create a series  
of cards and then click Filethe Options "Image File, Snapshot, etc." from each card.


HTH,

Joe Wilkins

On Sep 15, 2008, at 9:46 PM, Lynn Saults wrote:



(I
tried to post this earlier today but got a message that I wasn't a  
member.
Guess I've been too quiet for too long. I'm sorry if it get posted  
more than

once but I'm having a hard time and haven't seen it yet.)

I use Revolution to do psychology experiments. I have a program to  
generate
sequences of simple visual stimuli (arrays of colored squares). A  
colleague
who does infant research wants to use these stimuli in an  
experiment. She
presents such sequences on a Mac as quicktime movies. I have  
modified my
program to export each stimulus display as a picture (a 'snapshot').  
Is
there a way to export the sequence of pictures as a quicktime movie  
from
Revolution or to easily create a quicktime movie from a sequence of  
picture
(snapshots)? I think I can use iMovie to make a movie from pictures,  
but
that seems rather tedious and clumsy, especially to get the timings  
I want.
I would appreciate suggestions about a good way to do this, using  
Revolution

alone or with externals or using other software.

Thanks!
J Scott Saults, PhD
Research Associate
Department of Psychological Sciences
University of Missouri
Columbia, MO 65211
USA

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