Re: Relaunch
Hi Jacque, If there is no other instance of a standalone running, where would the relaunch message go? It might be sent, but it would cause an error. So, I believe you can safely assume that the relaunch message is not sent, if no other instance of the standalone is running. Note that this doesn't apply to copies of your standalone. The relaunch message is sent if you open the *same* standalone multiple times. The message is sent to the stack. I don't think it is sent to the card. This means you need to have the relaunch in the stack script. Also note that the message is sent to the instance of the standalone that is already running, not the the newly launched standalone. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Dutch forum: http://runrev.info/rrforum/ Benefit from our inexpensive hosting services. See http://economy-x-talk.com/server.html for more info. On 29 sep 2008, at 05:53, J. Landman Gay wrote: The docs are a little vague on one aspect of the relaunch command. I assumed it would only be sent if there was an existing instance of the standalone running, but further down in the description the docs say: If there are no existing instances, the new instance will run. Is relaunch sent to a standalone when there is no other instance running? And if so, where in the message hierarchy is it sent? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Windows System Requirements
Hi Joe, A standalone may be able to start up on Win 3.11 but will be rather useless. A lot of features won't work. You should probably assume that it won't work, unless you deliberately created your standalone for 3.11, not using any incompatible feature. I believe that Win 95 is no longer supported by RunRev Ltd. Some time ago, I used Rev 2.6.1 on Win 95, which caused me some problems regarding window resizing and crashes. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Dutch forum: http://runrev.info/rrforum/ Benefit from our inexpensive hosting services. See http://economy-x-talk.com/server.html for more info. On 29 sep 2008, at 07:03, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Anyone who knows: How old a Windows OS will run RunRev stacks with Stack Runner? 95, 98, 2000, XP (of course), but earlier? I'm trying to assemble system Requirements for a completed project. TIA, Joe Wilkins ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Windows System Requirements
Hi Mark, Thanks for your response; so a 3.0 RunRev stack may run OK on Windows 98 or later? TIA, Joe Wilkins On Sep 29, 2008, at 12:33 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi Joe, A standalone may be able to start up on Win 3.11 but will be rather useless. A lot of features won't work. You should probably assume that it won't work, unless you deliberately created your standalone for 3.11, not using any incompatible feature. I believe that Win 95 is no longer supported by RunRev Ltd. Some time ago, I used Rev 2.6.1 on Win 95, which caused me some problems regarding window resizing and crashes. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
debugging log engine build request
Since I've been having unpredictable but frequent crashes of Revolution 2.9 on Vista for the past 4 months, and now daily crashes of Revolution 3.0 on Vista and Linux, I've entered an enhancement request that the engine be modified to include a debug-logging facility (logging messages, property changes, and function calls). If anyone is interested in adding their suggestions or doubts about this enhancement, the bug reference number is 7237 (http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=7237). Bernard ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: debugging log engine build request
Dear Bernard, Isn't the verbose log useful for you? To turn verbose logging on and off easily, you can download my Verbose Log plugin from RevOnline (user name Mark). -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Dutch forum: http://runrev.info/rrforum/ Benefit from our inexpensive hosting services. See http://economy-x-talk.com/server.html for more info. On 29 sep 2008, at 11:18, Bernard Devlin wrote: Since I've been having unpredictable but frequent crashes of Revolution 2.9 on Vista for the past 4 months, and now daily crashes of Revolution 3.0 on Vista and Linux, I've entered an enhancement request that the engine be modified to include a debug-logging facility (logging messages, property changes, and function calls). If anyone is interested in adding their suggestions or doubts about this enhancement, the bug reference number is 7237 (http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=7237). Bernard ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Fwd: Re-2: Windows System Requirements
Ooops! I meant this to go to the list. This is a stack that will target young children, so it is quite possible they will have older machines still running 95, but I think most will have probably moved up to at least 98 since it was such a wide spread success; so I'm going to try setting that as the minimum OS. I still haven't come up with a Classic version for Macs yet, based on the same thought process. Based on a fairly recent thread pertaining to 2.6.1?, I think it was said, that I should be able to make a Classic version with it, but forget now how it was said I might obtain that RunRev version. Reminder anyone? TIA, Joe Wilkins On Sep 29, 2008, at 1:00 AM, Franz Böhmisch wrote: hello Joe I used an old notebook till spring with win95, modem and runrev 2.2.1 installed on it. I used it not very extensive - but it worked even with stacks with bigger screens than screen resolution. In the most cases I had no problems inclusive internet access, window resize, shell etc. I think you can run stacks and standalones on win95 in most cases - if you have problems with newer standalones of version 2.8 up than install 2.2.1 and make standalones with this old engine. Regards, Franz -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html Joe Lewis Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
difference selectedline / hilitedline?
Hello, Which of the following both options is the correct way to select a textline in a field, as if it would have been clicked by the mouse. I can't actually find any difference in the result. set the hilitedline of field foo to 1 or select line 1 of fld foo Thanks for enlightening me Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: difference selectedline / hilitedline?
Bonjour Tiemo, Actually, as you wrote it, it's the same. But... You may write: set the hilitedline of field foo to 1,2,5 while select allows to select one line only. On the other hand, select will not work in the same way with unlocked fields and list fields. So use the one that fits your needs depending on the context :-) Le 29 sept. 08 à 12:12, Tiemo Hollmann TB a écrit : Hello, Which of the following both options is the correct way to select a textline in a field, as if it would have been clicked by the mouse. I can't actually find any difference in the result. set the hilitedline of field foo to 1 or select line 1 of fld foo Thanks for enlightening me Tiemo Best regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. Plugins and tutorials for Revolution: http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: debugging log engine build request
Hi Mark, I don't know. Before I built my own utility, I mentioned the need for something like this several times (on the improve list and in comments on RQCC). No-one referred me to yours. Can it log changes to properties (such as setting the name of a stack), and calls to in-built functions? If it can't do that, then I think there is still a need for what I've suggested. Mind you, I use your errorLib all the time, so if someone can do it outside the engine, I'm sure you can. I've just found it your stack. I didn't know there was anything called revVerboseDebug. It isn't listed in the dictionary of either 2.9 or 3.0. So it certainly looks like your logging stack will do more, so I probably wasted another day. Bernard On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Mark Schonewille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Bernard, Isn't the verbose log useful for you? To turn verbose logging on and off easily, you can download my Verbose Log plugin from RevOnline (user name Mark). -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: difference selectedline / hilitedline?
Bonjour Eric, it's always good to know and not to guess, what I am doing :) Thank you Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:use-revolution- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Eric Chatonet Gesendet: Montag, 29. September 2008 12:25 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: difference selectedline / hilitedline? Bonjour Tiemo, Actually, as you wrote it, it's the same. But... You may write: set the hilitedline of field foo to 1,2,5 while select allows to select one line only. On the other hand, select will not work in the same way with unlocked fields and list fields. So use the one that fits your needs depending on the context :-) Le 29 sept. 08 à 12:12, Tiemo Hollmann TB a écrit : Hello, Which of the following both options is the correct way to select a textline in a field, as if it would have been clicked by the mouse. I can't actually find any difference in the result. set the hilitedline of field foo to 1 or select line 1 of fld foo Thanks for enlightening me Tiemo Best regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. Plugins and tutorials for Revolution: http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: debugging log engine build request
Hi Mark, I've had a look at your stack, and I see that it simply a method to switch on this undocumented feature that already exists in Rev. My stack does the same as this existing feature - only my method does not waste so much hard disk space, and will produce a new log file every time Rev is restarted (so that if the same sequence of events causes the crash then the log files that were last modified at the times of the crashes should all end the same way). I'm glad to know my work hasn't a complete waste of time. I do think it should be an engine-level feature, and should probably adopt a more concise logging format. If there is any interest in this let me know and I'll put my stack online. Bernard On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Bernard Devlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mark, I don't know. Before I built my own utility, I mentioned the need for something like this several times (on the improve list and in comments on RQCC). No-one referred me to yours. Can it log changes to properties (such as setting the name of a stack), and calls to in-built functions? If it can't do that, then I think there is still a need for what I've suggested. Mind you, I use your errorLib all the time, so if someone can do it outside the engine, I'm sure you can. I've just found it your stack. I didn't know there was anything called revVerboseDebug. It isn't listed in the dictionary of either 2.9 or 3.0. So it certainly looks like your logging stack will do more, so I probably wasted another day. Bernard ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: difference selectedline / hilitedline?
Hi Tiemo Hello, Which of the following both options is the correct way to select a textline in a field, as if it would have been clicked by the mouse. I can't actually find any difference in the result. I would prefer solution 1 plus another important line: set the hilitedline of field foo to 1 send mouseup to fld foo ## to make if really behave like have been clicked by the mouse ;-) Best Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: difference selectedline / hilitedline?
Wouldn't it be better to write: focus on fld foo rather than: send mouseUp to fld foo since focus guaranties the focus but mouseUp does not? Tom McGrath On Sep 29, 2008, at 9:28 AM, Klaus Major wrote: Hi Tiemo Hello, Which of the following both options is the correct way to select a textline in a field, as if it would have been clicked by the mouse. I can't actually find any difference in the result. I would prefer solution 1 plus another important line: set the hilitedline of field foo to 1 send mouseup to fld foo ## to make if really behave like have been clicked by the mouse ;-) Best Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
get the icon found in address bar in browser
Does anyone know how to capture/get the icon found before the http text in the address bar in most web browsers? I want to get this via script in Revolution in a text field. Thanks in advance, Tom McGrath III ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: debugging log engine build request
Bernard Devlin wrote: Since I've been having unpredictable but frequent crashes of Revolution 2.9 on Vista for the past 4 months, and now daily crashes of Revolution 3.0 on Vista and Linux, I've entered an enhancement request that the engine be modified to include a debug-logging facility (logging messages, property changes, and function calls). This already exists in the Preferences. In the General pane, look for the popdown called Crash reporting on Windows XP. The default setting is small but you can set it to medium (which is actually pretty large.) The resulting log will not be human-readable, but the engineers can use it to debug your crashes. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: get the icon found in address bar in browser
Hi Tom, The web page contains a link to the Favicon file. Officially, this is supposed to be an ico file, which Revolution can't read natively. If this file happens to be bmp, gif, jpg or png, you can just download it and display it in a field. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Dutch forum: http://runrev.info/rrforum/ Benefit from our inexpensive hosting services. See http://economy-x-talk.com/server.html for more info. On 29 sep 2008, at 16:54, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Does anyone know how to capture/get the icon found before the http text in the address bar in most web browsers? I want to get this via script in Revolution in a text field. Thanks in advance, Tom McGrath III ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: get the icon found in address bar in browser
Mark, Thanks, I should have just asked that. I knew it was an .ico file but wasn't thinking about natively reading the file. I wonder if there is a way to access gif/bmp representations of a website in another way. I know that revBrowser will do a snapshot thumbnail and was hoping for another way to represent the page in a text field 'just like the favicons'. Any ideas welcome, this is not a critical issue but a desire to do this cleanly. Tom McGrath On Sep 29, 2008, at 11:04 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi Tom, The web page contains a link to the Favicon file. Officially, this is supposed to be an ico file, which Revolution can't read natively. If this file happens to be bmp, gif, jpg or png, you can just download it and display it in a field. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Dutch forum: http://runrev.info/rrforum/ Benefit from our inexpensive hosting services. See http://economy-x-talk.com/server.html for more info. On 29 sep 2008, at 16:54, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Does anyone know how to capture/get the icon found before the http text in the address bar in most web browsers? I want to get this via script in Revolution in a text field. Thanks in advance, Tom McGrath III ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: get the icon found in address bar in browser
At 10:54 AM -0400 9/29/08, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Does anyone know how to capture/get the icon found before the http text in the address bar in most web browsers? I want to get this via script in Revolution in a text field. I believe that it's always favicon.ico. So for example the one for runrev would be: http://www.runrev.com/favicon.ico if they had one. The one for Adobe is: http://www.adobe.com/favicon.ico Apple's: http://www.apple.com/favicon.ico Unity3D's: http://unity3d.com/favicon.ico and so on. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: get the icon found in address bar in browser
Hi Colin, I don't think you can safely assume that you will find the ico file in the root of a web site. You should check whether a link to an ico file has been specified for a particular page. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Dutch forum: http://runrev.info/rrforum/ Benefit from our inexpensive hosting services. See http://economy-x-talk.com/server.html for more info. On 29 sep 2008, at 17:33, Colin Holgate wrote: At 10:54 AM -0400 9/29/08, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Does anyone know how to capture/get the icon found before the http text in the address bar in most web browsers? I want to get this via script in Revolution in a text field. I believe that it's always favicon.ico. So for example the one for runrev would be: http://www.runrev.com/favicon.ico if they had one. The one for Adobe is: http://www.adobe.com/favicon.ico Apple's: http://www.apple.com/favicon.ico Unity3D's: http://unity3d.com/favicon.ico and so on. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: difference selectedline / hilitedline?
Hi Thomas, Wouldn't it be better to write: focus on fld foo rather than: send mouseUp to fld foo since focus guaranties the focus but mouseUp does not? But mouseup guarantees what Tiemo wanted: the correct way to select a textline in a field, as if it would have been clicked by the mouse. If that is what he wanted. :-) Tom McGrath On Sep 29, 2008, at 9:28 AM, Klaus Major wrote: Hi Tiemo Hello, Which of the following both options is the correct way to select a textline in a field, as if it would have been clicked by the mouse. I can't actually find any difference in the result. I would prefer solution 1 plus another important line: set the hilitedline of field foo to 1 send mouseup to fld foo ## to make if really behave like have been clicked by the mouse ;-) Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: get the icon found in address bar in browser
Some clever revDude could hack out a conversion -- .ico's are only 16x16 (uncompressed?) 1. screenscrape the html of the page for the first .ico file 2. get the file as binary 3. figure out where the headers, jump tables are, the standards for ico are out there I'm sure 4. convert to imagedata so few pixels that it could be done easily in rev... At 10:54 AM -0400 9/29/08, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Does anyone know how to capture/get the icon found before the http text in the address bar in most web browsers? I want to get this via script in Revolution in a text field. I believe that it's always favicon.ico. So for example the one for runrev would be: http://www.runrev.com/favicon.ico if they had one. The one for Adobe is: http://www.adobe.com/favicon.ico Apple's: http://www.apple.com/favicon.ico Unity3D's: http://unity3d.com/favicon.ico and so on. -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: get the icon found in address bar in browser
At 5:39 PM +0200 9/29/08, Mark Schonewille wrote: I don't think you can safely assume that you will find the ico file in the root of a web site. You should check whether a link to an ico file has been specified for a particular page. Of course, I was only showing root examples. Rev not being able to load ico files does slow down the whole idea anyway! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: difference selectedline / hilitedline?
Hi Klaus, Yes you are right, if I would have wanted also all actions to be performed, as if the mouse had clicked. In my case setting the hilitedline made it (should have been more precise :) Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:use-revolution- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Klaus Major Gesendet: Montag, 29. September 2008 17:41 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: difference selectedline / hilitedline? Hi Thomas, Wouldn't it be better to write: focus on fld foo rather than: send mouseUp to fld foo since focus guaranties the focus but mouseUp does not? But mouseup guarantees what Tiemo wanted: the correct way to select a textline in a field, as if it would have been clicked by the mouse. If that is what he wanted. :-) Tom McGrath On Sep 29, 2008, at 9:28 AM, Klaus Major wrote: Hi Tiemo Hello, Which of the following both options is the correct way to select a textline in a field, as if it would have been clicked by the mouse. I can't actually find any difference in the result. I would prefer solution 1 plus another important line: set the hilitedline of field foo to 1 send mouseup to fld foo ## to make if really behave like have been clicked by the mouse ;-) Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: difference selectedline / hilitedline?
Ah yes, that IS what he asked for. Thanks Tom McGrath On Sep 29, 2008, at 11:40 AM, Klaus Major wrote: But mouseup guarantees what Tiemo wanted: the correct way to select a textline in a field, as if it would have been clicked by the mouse. If that is what he wanted. :-) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AW: difference selectedline / hilitedline?
Bonsoir Tiemo, Klaus and Tom, Probably a good idea (?) could be to implement a selectionChanged handler. A mouseDown or a 'set the hilitedLines' would trigger it in all cases. Le 29 sept. 08 à 18:11, Tiemo Hollmann TB a écrit : Hi Klaus, Yes you are right, if I would have wanted also all actions to be performed, as if the mouse had clicked. In my case setting the hilitedline made it (should have been more precise :) Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:use-revolution- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Klaus Major Gesendet: Montag, 29. September 2008 17:41 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: difference selectedline / hilitedline? Hi Thomas, Wouldn't it be better to write: focus on fld foo rather than: send mouseUp to fld foo since focus guaranties the focus but mouseUp does not? But mouseup guarantees what Tiemo wanted: the correct way to select a textline in a field, as if it would have been clicked by the mouse. If that is what he wanted. :-) Tom McGrath On Sep 29, 2008, at 9:28 AM, Klaus Major wrote: Hi Tiemo Hello, Which of the following both options is the correct way to select a textline in a field, as if it would have been clicked by the mouse. I can't actually find any difference in the result. I would prefer solution 1 plus another important line: set the hilitedline of field foo to 1 send mouseup to fld foo ## to make if really behave like have been clicked by the mouse ;-) Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: get the icon found in address bar in browser
Clever versus time versus need ??? If you go to www.go2web20.com they have a flash app that 'gets' website graphics and I'm not sure if they are even the original favicons or where they got them from. But I wouldn't think they got them all manually?? Anyway, I would like to have a bookmark list in a text field with imagedata of anything that represents the website and was thinking that revBrowser snapshot was too big for a text field and I don't know where or how go2web20 got theirs so it seemed the favicon was the best choice but Anyway, screenscraping seems esay enough but I wonder if getting the binary is possible. On the Mac Preview will open an .ico file but not allow a binary from it. Screen capture seems possible or some third party app but now it is getting complicated. Ideas Tom McGrath On Sep 29, 2008, at 11:45 AM, Stephen Barncard wrote: Some clever revDude could hack out a conversion -- .ico's are only 16x16 (uncompressed?) 1. screenscrape the html of the page for the first .ico file 2. get the file as binary 3. figure out where the headers, jump tables are, the standards for ico are out there I'm sure 4. convert to imagedata so few pixels that it could be done easily in rev... At 10:54 AM -0400 9/29/08, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Does anyone know how to capture/get the icon found before the http text in the address bar in most web browsers? I want to get this via script in Revolution in a text field. I believe that it's always favicon.ico. So for example the one for runrev would be: http://www.runrev.com/favicon.ico if they had one. The one for Adobe is: -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: get the icon found in address bar in browser
Colin, Yes this will get the .ico file if it is at the root level but not all are and more importantly for me anyway is Rev can't handle the .ico natively so I'm still stuck. Hoping for s semi-simple solution. Thanks though, Tom McGrath On Sep 29, 2008, at 11:33 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: At 10:54 AM -0400 9/29/08, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Does anyone know how to capture/get the icon found before the http text in the address bar in most web browsers? I want to get this via script in Revolution in a text field. I believe that it's always favicon.ico. So for example the one for runrev would be: http://www.runrev.com/favicon.ico if they had one. The one for Adobe is: http://www.adobe.com/favicon.ico Apple's: http://www.apple.com/favicon.ico Unity3D's: http://unity3d.com/favicon.ico and so on. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: get the icon found in address bar in browser
Colin, This was my reply to your fist text. grin, so yes we are still stuck with REV not working with the .ico file directly. Thanks again, Tom McGrath On Sep 29, 2008, at 11:48 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: At 5:39 PM +0200 9/29/08, Mark Schonewille wrote: I don't think you can safely assume that you will find the ico file in the root of a web site. You should check whether a link to an ico file has been specified for a particular page. Of course, I was only showing root examples. Rev not being able to load ico files does slow down the whole idea anyway! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Shell on Win XP Spanish and Vista Spanish
Anyone getting unexpected results of shell commands from XP Spanish and Vista Spanish? I am running ipconfig /all on both of those versions of Win and am getting different results from within Rev when compared to running via the command prompt. When run through Rev I am getting a few characters that have been changed to something outside of the normal ascii range. I am assuming they are encoding issues. I want to verify this before bug reporting it. Is there a way to base64 encode the results from the shell result? Maybe I need to do this to get consistent results. Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
OT Font Question
Does anyone here know if there exists a font that combines the letters that make phonemes, be they digraphs, dipthongs, or just multiple letters (oo, ee, ea)? For example, the word cough would have three phonemic chunks: c - ou - gh. But the phonetic representations of the short o phoneme (ou) and the / f/ (gh) would be squished up against each other so they would be recognized as a chunk, not as separate letters? Does this make sense? Thanks, Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: get the icon found in address bar in browser
Tom, Don't know if this will help... but you could capture the icon using import (or export) snapshot, then, if you needed it to have a transparency channel, you could knock out the background using the scripts in altMakeTransparent stack at: http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/RunRev/Downloads.htm HTH ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT Font Question
Le 29 sept. 08 à 20:34, Mark Swindell a écrit : Does anyone here know if there exists a font that combines the letters that make phonemes, be they digraphs, dipthongs, or just multiple letters (oo, ee, ea)? For example, the word cough would have three phonemic chunks: c - ou - gh. But the phonetic representations of the short o phoneme (ou) and the /f/ (gh) would be squished up against each other so they would be recognized as a chunk, not as separate letters? Does this make sense? I suggest you post your question at [EMAIL PROTECTED] XeTeX is a typesetting system based on TeX, with a emphasis on the use of exotic writing systems. You question is not a TeX question, but you might find in this mailing list somebody who knows of an OpenType font with phonetic glyphs. If you are interested, an introduction on XeTeX can be found at http://cern.ch/XML/lgc2/xetexmain.pdf do not feel obliged to read all of it, this is just to give you some perspective on what XeTeX is about and why grouping characters into glyphs (in arabic languages, for instance) is part of the preoccupations of the people behind XeTeX. Best regards, François ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT Font Question
On Sep 29, 2008, at 12:34 PM, Mark Swindell wrote: Does anyone here know if there exists a font that combines the letters that make phonemes, be they digraphs, dipthongs, or just multiple letters (oo, ee, ea)? For example, the word cough would have three phonemic chunks: c - ou - gh. But the phonetic representations of the short o phoneme (ou) and the / f/ (gh) would be squished up against each other so they would be recognized as a chunk, not as separate letters? Does this make sense? Not exactly sure what you are after. Would an IPA font do what you wanted? You can get some very good ones from sil.org: http://www.sil.org/computing/catalog/show_software_catalog.asp?by=catname=Font HTH Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Linux Standalone in Rev 3.0?
Does anyone know whether the Linux builder is now active in the Rev. 3.0 Standalone Builder? Thanks, Ted ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: debugging log engine build request
I sent a whole series of crash logs through RQCC back in August, and was told they were inconclusive. I assumed these crash logs were actually _Windows_ crash logs not Rev crash logs. I seem to remember some discussion between you and Eric Chatonet where he was reluctant to send them because they were encrypted. I think you talked to the Rev developers who told you they were Visual Studio crash logs. My understanding is that these logs do not even exist in the Linux build at all. If I'm not mistaken then I'm asking for something completely different. I'm asking for something that would be equivalent to a 'replay log', so that the Rev developers could see exactly what was going on inside the engine as the engine changes state before a crash. Bernard On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 4:03 PM, J. Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Bernard Devlin wrote: Since I've been having unpredictable but frequent crashes of Revolution 2.9 on Vista for the past 4 months, and now daily crashes of Revolution 3.0 on Vista and Linux, I've entered an enhancement request that the engine be modified to include a debug-logging facility (logging messages, property changes, and function calls). This already exists in the Preferences. In the General pane, look for the popdown called Crash reporting on Windows XP. The default setting is small but you can set it to medium (which is actually pretty large.) The resulting log will not be human-readable, but the engineers can use it to debug your crashes. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Painting on an image in a group?
Hi Joe - thanks, but I am really looking for a solution for painting an image that is within a group. If I have to work around it by using card images then OK - but I'm just rying to confirm that it is not possible to paint within a grouped image. 2008/9/28 Joe Lewis Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] David, I assume you're using the paint bucket tool for the user to paint with? I'm not quite sure why you are grouping this one image with the button. Why not just have each new card created with its own image. Group the button so it appears on all of the cards; and, perhaps, you may wish to hide it if or when you want to print the painted image. Also, what are the types of images you are using? Just drawn in the IDE or imported as a control image from files that have been scanned or maybe photos? I've been having success with user painting under almost all of these circumstances. Joe Wilkins On Sep 28, 2008, at 3:18 AM, David Bovill wrote: It's a group with one image and a button in it. AFAIK - there is no way to do this, except be cloing the image as a card level object and painting in that - transfering the image contents to the groups image later? 2008/9/24 Joe Lewis Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi David, Is it a group of images or a group of mixed objects? Joe Wilkins On Sep 23, 2008, at 4:45 PM, David Bovill wrote: In the IDE if you select an image in a group and try to paint - it creates a new image. Is there any way to to set things up / script it so that a user can paint in an image inside a group? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: debugging log engine build request
Bonsoir Bernard, Yes these logs just exist on Win32. I had some prejudice against them, that's true, because these logs are not readable. But I know a bit Mark Waddingham and I'm sure now these logs do not tell to Runrev parts of code or something else that could disclosure any part of your work. Anyway, if you work with Linux, these logs are nor available AFAIK. As for a 'replay log' that would be a panacea, I imagine it would be difficult to set up and probably not understandable for common users (e.g. not acceptable from a marketing point of view) :-) Le 29 sept. 08 à 22:04, Bernard Devlin a écrit : I sent a whole series of crash logs through RQCC back in August, and was told they were inconclusive. I assumed these crash logs were actually _Windows_ crash logs not Rev crash logs. I seem to remember some discussion between you and Eric Chatonet where he was reluctant to send them because they were encrypted. I think you talked to the Rev developers who told you they were Visual Studio crash logs. My understanding is that these logs do not even exist in the Linux build at all. If I'm not mistaken then I'm asking for something completely different. I'm asking for something that would be equivalent to a 'replay log', so that the Rev developers could see exactly what was going on inside the engine as the engine changes state before a crash. Best regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. Plugins and tutorials for Revolution: http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Visible and extra monitors.
Dude, Just use my function posted last week: function isStackCurrentlyVisibleOnAnyMonitor pStack -- pStack IS THE SHORT NAME OF STACK if pStack is among the lines of windows() then if not the vis of stack pStack then return false if the blendlevel of stack pStack = 100 then return false repeat for each line L in the screenrects if the topLeft of stack pStack is within L then return true if the topRight of stack pStack is within L then return true if the bottomLeft of stack pStack is within L then return true if the bottomRight of stack pStack is within L then return true end repeat return false else return false end if end isStackCurrentlyVisibleOnAnyMonitor ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Linux Standalone in Rev 3.0?
Hi Ted, Yes, I build standalones for Linux with Rev 3.0. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Dutch forum: http://runrev.info/rrforum/ Benefit from our inexpensive hosting services. See http://economy-x-talk.com/server.html for more info. On 29 sep 2008, at 19:08, Ted wrote: Does anyone know whether the Linux builder is now active in the Rev. 3.0 Standalone Builder? Thanks, Ted ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: get the icon found in address bar in browser
Chipp, Yeah, that seems my last resort and I will play around to see what results I get. I like the idea of the altMakeTransparent approach. Thanks, Tom McGrath III On Sep 29, 2008, at 2:45 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: Tom, Don't know if this will help... but you could capture the icon using import (or export) snapshot, then, if you needed it to have a transparency channel, you could knock out the background using the scripts in altMakeTransparent stack at: http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/RunRev/Downloads.htm HTH ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: debugging log engine build request
Bernard Devlin wrote: I sent a whole series of crash logs through RQCC back in August, and was told they were inconclusive. I assumed these crash logs were actually _Windows_ crash logs not Rev crash logs. They're Rev crash logs, the actual Windows logs can be accessed from Dr Watson (at least in XP, not sure about Vista.) I believe the Rev crash logs do show the various machine states as Rev executes commands. I seem to remember some discussion between you and Eric Chatonet where he was reluctant to send them because they were encrypted. I think you talked to the Rev developers who told you they were Visual Studio crash logs. My understanding is that these logs do not even exist in the Linux build at all. Right, I don't think there's any logging for Linux. I thought you mentioned that the crash happened on both Windows and Linux though, and I was hoping the Windows logs would give a clue to the problem on both. If I'm not mistaken then I'm asking for something completely different. I'm asking for something that would be equivalent to a 'replay log', so that the Rev developers could see exactly what was going on inside the engine as the engine changes state before a crash. I think that's what the Rev logs do mostly, if you have the software to read them. But if you have any other logging tools, the more the better. Go for it. Are you by chance working a lot with images? I had a severe series of crashes in a current project on both 2.9 and 3.0 which turned out to be image-related, particularly when manipulating large images (there's a bug report about that.) I sent the team my stack and it blew up for them on demand. I have a scripted work-around for my particular situation. I've forgotten if you said you sent them your stack, but I've found that's the most reliable way to get things fixed, especially if the crash log is inconclusive. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Windows System Requirements
How old a Windows OS will run RunRev stacks with Stack Runner? 95, 98, 2000, XP (of course), but earlier? I'm trying to assemble system Requirements for a completed project. It depends on the version of StackRunner you're using - take a look at the bottom of the web page to tell you what version of the Rev engine it was built in, and then you can check RunRev's site for requirements. For example, the latest StackRunner was built with the Rev 2.9.1 engine which has the same system requirements as 3.0 - only back to Win95, and I know there are a handful of gotchas with Win95 support that are in the bug database. I'd suggest saying you support back to Win 98 or Win2K - that's 8-10 years ago, which should (hopefully) be sufficient for your purposes. Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
revBrowser snapshot not working in 3.0
Has anyone else seen this? In the demo stack for revBrowser on page 10 I believe is the snapshot function and the resulting image is scrambled and not a snapshot. Is this a bug? Tom McGrath III ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Painting on an image in a group?
Good luck, David. Hope you find a solution. Joe On Sep 29, 2008, at 1:13 PM, David Bovill wrote: Hi Joe - thanks, but I am really looking for a solution for painting an image that is within a group. If I have to work around it by using card images then OK - but I'm just rying to confirm that it is not possible to paint within a grouped image. 2008/9/28 Joe Lewis Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] David, I assume you're using the paint bucket tool for the user to paint with? I'm not quite sure why you are grouping this one image with the button. Why not just have each new card created with its own image. Group the button so it appears on all of the cards; and, perhaps, you may wish to hide it if or when you want to print the painted image. Also, what are the types of images you are using? Just drawn in the IDE or imported as a control image from files that have been scanned or maybe photos? I've been having success with user painting under almost all of these circumstances. Joe Wilkins On Sep 28, 2008, at 3:18 AM, David Bovill wrote: It's a group with one image and a button in it. AFAIK - there is no way to do this, except be cloing the image as a card level object and painting in that - transfering the image contents to the groups image later? 2008/9/24 Joe Lewis Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi David, Is it a group of images or a group of mixed objects? Joe Wilkins On Sep 23, 2008, at 4:45 PM, David Bovill wrote: In the IDE if you select an image in a group and try to paint - it creates a new image. Is there any way to to set things up / script it so that a user can paint in an image inside a group? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html Joe Lewis Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Windows System Requirements
Thanks, Ken. That was pretty much what I had decided. Now I've got to resolve the Classic issue using RR 2.6, I guess. Joe Wilkins On Sep 29, 2008, at 1:59 PM, Ken Ray wrote: How old a Windows OS will run RunRev stacks with Stack Runner? 95, 98, 2000, XP (of course), but earlier? I'm trying to assemble system Requirements for a completed project. It depends on the version of StackRunner you're using - take a look at the bottom of the web page to tell you what version of the Rev engine it was built in, and then you can check RunRev's site for requirements. For example, the latest StackRunner was built with the Rev 2.9.1 engine which has the same system requirements as 3.0 - only back to Win95, and I know there are a handful of gotchas with Win95 support that are in the bug database. I'd suggest saying you support back to Win 98 or Win2K - that's 8-10 years ago, which should (hopefully) be sufficient for your purposes. Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Button to stop a repeating script?
Hi: I searched but didn't find quite what I am trying to implement. Any tips on the best way to do the following is appreciated: I have a Start button that starts an indefinite repeat. (It downloads a bit of information from a web site and sends an email, waiting 5 minutes until doing it again.) I would like a Stop button to stop the repeat, but all I can do is Cmd-. to abort it. I tried setting a global flag but that doesn't work, at least the way I'm doing it. Ideas? Thanks, m ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Spell Check script
Hi folks, I would like to add a spellcheck option to the text fields that the user fills out. Probably about 50 words are entered in each field with about 10 fields. I've searched through past emails and runrev posts and found OSX possibilities but nothing for Windows. If I have to, I have the words from ubuntu's built-in dictionary (93,000 words) that I could use for my own spellcheck script but I would only do a matching type of script and not recommend words like other (and better) spellcheckers do. I'm wondering if anyone out there knows of a runrev spell check script that works for windows. Thanks for any comments, Jim. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.6.1 build Help needed
Hey guys and gals, I just downloaded 2.6.1, transferred it to my Classic Mac running 9.2.2 and it constantly crashes and takes me into Macsbug. Anything special needed to run this ancient critter? Suggestions or obvious caveats welcome. TIA, Joe Wilkins On Sep 18, 2008, at 4:25 PM, Randy Hengst wrote: Jeff, Is this what you mean? http://runrev.com/downloads/all-downloads/full-list/ or the link from that page: http://downloads.runrev.com/distributions/2.6.1/revolution.sit take care, randy hengst - -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html Joe Lewis Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.6.1 build Help needed
Oh, and BTW, I noticed that the engines folder is empty. Should it be? I used this link from what Randy provided way below: http://downloads.runrev.com/distributions/2.6.1/revolution.sit Joe Wilkins On Sep 29, 2008, at 4:02 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Hey guys and gals, I just downloaded 2.6.1, transferred it to my Classic Mac running 9.2.2 and it constantly crashes and takes me into Macsbug. Anything special needed to run this ancient critter? Suggestions or obvious caveats welcome. TIA, Joe Wilkins On Sep 18, 2008, at 4:25 PM, Randy Hengst wrote: Jeff, Is this what you mean? http://runrev.com/downloads/all-downloads/full-list/ or the link from that page: http://downloads.runrev.com/distributions/2.6.1/revolution.sit take care, randy hengst - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Button to stop a repeating script?
That is easy. 1. Declare a global in your stack script outside any handler so it is available to all handlers in the Stack Script. 2. Initialize it to false in your on openStack handler. 3. Declare the global in your button script or else have the button call a handler in your stack script that does the work. 4. Have the mouseUp handler (or whatever script you call) set the value of the global to true. 5. Have your endless loop check for this value before each iteration, and bail out when it is true, setting the value back to false before it does. Pretty basic stuff. Bob Sneidar IT Manager Logos Management Calvary Chapel CM On Sep 29, 2008, at 3:40 PM, Michael wrote: Hi: I searched but didn't find quite what I am trying to implement. Any tips on the best way to do the following is appreciated: I have a Start button that starts an indefinite repeat. (It downloads a bit of information from a web site and sends an email, waiting 5 minutes until doing it again.) I would like a Stop button to stop the repeat, but all I can do is Cmd-. to abort it. I tried setting a global flag but that doesn't work, at least the way I'm doing it. Ideas? Thanks, m ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Button to stop a repeating script?
Recently, Michael wrote: I have a Start button that starts an indefinite repeat. (It downloads a bit of information from a web site and sends an email, waiting 5 minutes until doing it again.) I would like a Stop button to stop the repeat, but all I can do is Cmd-. to abort it. I tried setting a global flag but that doesn't work, at least the way I'm doing it. Ideas? If you use send in... for your looping mechanism, you can cancel the ID of the message that is set to loop. Something like: # THE MAIN LOOPING MECHANISM on customEventLoop # DOWNLOAD ACTION # EMAIL ACTION send customEventLoop to me in 300 seconds end customEventLoop # IN A CANCEL BUTTON on mouseUp cancel item 1 of line lineOffset( customEventLoop,pendingMessages()) \ of pendingMessages() end mouseUp Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.6.1 build Help needed
Third or forth time was the charm and the DreamCard Player opened up w/ o crashing. Hmn! But I tried drag and drop with the Launcher and got nothing to happen. Something I don't know about once again. Joe Wilkins On Sep 29, 2008, at 4:02 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Hey guys and gals, I just downloaded 2.6.1, transferred it to my Classic Mac running 9.2.2 and it constantly crashes and takes me into Macsbug. Anything special needed to run this ancient critter? Suggestions or obvious caveats welcome. TIA, Joe Wilkins On Sep 18, 2008, at 4:25 PM, Randy Hengst wrote: Jeff, Is this what you mean? http://runrev.com/downloads/all-downloads/full-list/ or the link from that page: http://downloads.runrev.com/distributions/2.6.1/revolution.sit take care, randy hengst - -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html Joe Lewis Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html Joe Lewis Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Button to stop a repeating script?
In my repeat loops I add this if the optionkey is down then exit repeat end if It's not as slick as the messaging suggestions but it's easy and it works for me. If this was for customers I'd suggest the implementation ideas presented earlier. Kee Nethery On Sep 29, 2008, at 3:40 PM, Michael wrote: Hi: I searched but didn't find quite what I am trying to implement. Any tips on the best way to do the following is appreciated: I have a Start button that starts an indefinite repeat. (It downloads a bit of information from a web site and sends an email, waiting 5 minutes until doing it again.) I would like a Stop button to stop the repeat, but all I can do is Cmd-. to abort it. I tried setting a global flag but that doesn't work, at least the way I'm doing it. Ideas? Thanks, m ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - I check email roughly 2 to 3 times per business day. Kagi main office: +1 (510) 550-1336 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revBrowser snapshot not working in 3.0
I can't remember, but I think you need to make sure and match the image size with the imagedata. I'm not in front of Rev at this moment. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
2.6.1
I downloaded a brand new zip of 2.6.1 from RunRev on line. On unzipping it with Stuffit on my Classic mac, it said there was an error and the archive was probably corrupt. So... Apparently we need a new pkg. on the Download site. Who handles that sort of stuff? Whole thing is pretty aggravating! TIA, Joe Wilkins ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.6.1
I know this is annoying - for me too, but after another Download and unzip on my OX Mac and transfer over to my Classic Mac, I'm at a point where they want me to put in a Code. I tried my uptodate Studio 3.0 Code, but that doesn't do it. This mac is not connected to the Internet, so I cannot go on line with it. Surely I don't have to buy another license just to do a Classic Build. What's the story? This is particularly irritating since when I started out back with 2.7 I was under the impression that we could build for Classic and OSX with the same stack and the same Revolution Studio. TIA, Joe Wilkins On Sep 29, 2008, at 5:10 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: I downloaded a brand new zip of 2.6.1 from RunRev on line. On unzipping it with Stuffit on my Classic mac, it said there was an error and the archive was probably corrupt. So... Apparently we need a new pkg. on the Download site. Who handles that sort of stuff? Whole thing is pretty aggravating! TIA, Joe Wilkins ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Button to stop a repeating script?
Michael, I like to put a if then in there with a custom property. -- card script on indefiniteLoop -- Download code -- Email code if the OktoExecute of this card then send indefiniteLoop to me in 300 seconds end indefiniteLoop -- Start button on mouseUp pMouseBtnNo set the OKtoExecute of this card to true indefiniteLoop end mouseUp -- Stop button on mouseUp pMouseBtnNo set the OKtoExecute of this card to false end mouseUp HTHs Tom McGrath III On Sep 29, 2008, at 6:40 PM, Michael wrote: Hi: I searched but didn't find quite what I am trying to implement. Any tips on the best way to do the following is appreciated: I have a Start button that starts an indefinite repeat. (It downloads a bit of information from a web site and sends an email, waiting 5 minutes until doing it again.) I would like a Stop button to stop the repeat, but all I can do is Cmd-. to abort it. I tried setting a global flag but that doesn't work, at least the way I'm doing it. Ideas? Thanks, m ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revBrowser snapshot not working in 3.0
Yeah Chipp that's what the docs say but I'm using the sample stack that has the sample and that states the size requirement. So I assumed the sample stack should be following this gotcha. Tom McGrath III On Sep 29, 2008, at 8:04 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: I can't remember, but I think you need to make sure and match the image size with the imagedata. I'm not in front of Rev at this moment. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.6.1
Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: I know this is annoying - for me too, but after another Download and unzip on my OX Mac and transfer over to my Classic Mac, I'm at a point where they want me to put in a Code. I tried my uptodate Studio 3.0 Code, but that doesn't do it. Write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and ask Heather what she can do. They are very supportive. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.6.1 build Help needed
Joe, How on earth did you get ANY version of system 9, let alone 9.2.2 on a Mac classic? The highest rated OS for the Classic is 7.5.5. I don't think there's enough RAM in a Classic for 9.2.2 (4 mb). sqb Hey guys and gals, I just downloaded 2.6.1, transferred it to my Classic Mac running 9.2.2 and it constantly crashes and takes me into Macsbug. Anything special needed to run this ancient critter? Suggestions or obvious caveats welcome. TIA, Joe Wilkins -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.6.1
Thanks Jacque. I was surprised that I even needed a license number for a much older version when I have an active 3.0. Joe Wilkins On Sep 29, 2008, at 6:57 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: I know this is annoying - for me too, but after another Download and unzip on my OX Mac and transfer over to my Classic Mac, I'm at a point where they want me to put in a Code. I tried my uptodate Studio 3.0 Code, but that doesn't do it. Write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and ask Heather what she can do. They are very supportive. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.6.1 build Help needed
Hi Stephen, I've been running 9.2.2 on a G4 a VERY long time. A little bit slow by today's standards, but it was my workhorse for years and years. Ooops! only 9.2.1. I thought I had upgraded it, but apparently not. (smile) I did increase the RAM to 768 MB, however, along with 30 and 60 GB hard drives. And it has the monster big Apple Display CRT. Got a hernia every time I moved it around. About 5 years ago, it went down on me and I had to pay Apple $500 to fix it - no AppleCare. But that's the only things I've ever had go bad in 22-23 years with Macs. Joe Wilkins (Maybe I should knock on wood?) On Sep 29, 2008, at 7:04 PM, Stephen Barncard wrote: Joe, How on earth did you get ANY version of system 9, let alone 9.2.2 on a Mac classic? The highest rated OS for the Classic is 7.5.5. I don't think there's enough RAM in a Classic for 9.2.2 (4 mb). sqb Hey guys and gals, I just downloaded 2.6.1, transferred it to my Classic Mac running 9.2.2 and it constantly crashes and takes me into Macsbug. Anything special needed to run this ancient critter? Suggestions or obvious caveats welcome. TIA, Joe Wilkins -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.6.1 build Help needed
Joe, Stephen, Classic MacOS simply refers to versions before MacOS X which used to boot in a protected Classic environment inside of OSX. This not being the same thing as Mac classic *hardware*. A Mac classic machine definitely won't run MacOS 9 Classic. Hope that clears things up. Hi Stephen, I've been running 9.2.2 on a G4 a VERY long time. A little bit slow by today's standards, but it was my workhorse for years and years. Ooops! only 9.2.1. I thought I had upgraded it, but apparently not. (smile) I did increase the RAM to 768 MB, however, along with 30 and 60 GB hard drives. And it has the monster big Apple Display CRT. Got a hernia every time I moved it around. About 5 years ago, it went down on me and I had to pay Apple $500 to fix it - no AppleCare. But that's the only things I've ever had go bad in 22-23 years with Macs. Joe Wilkins (Maybe I should knock on wood?) On Sep 29, 2008, at 7:04 PM, Stephen Barncard wrote: Joe, How on earth did you get ANY version of system 9, let alone 9.2.2 on a Mac classic? The highest rated OS for the Classic is 7.5.5. I don't think there's enough RAM in a Classic for 9.2.2 (4 mb). sqb Hey guys and gals, I just downloaded 2.6.1, transferred it to my Classic Mac running 9.2.2 and it constantly crashes and takes me into Macsbug. Anything special needed to run this ancient critter? Suggestions or obvious caveats welcome. TIA, Joe Wilkins ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.6.1 build Help needed
Hi Brian, Yeah, I had actually forgotten we had a Mac Classic machine. Never owned one of those. Sorry for the confusion, Joe Wilkins On Sep 29, 2008, at 7:54 PM, Brian Yennie wrote: Joe, Stephen, Classic MacOS simply refers to versions before MacOS X which used to boot in a protected Classic environment inside of OSX. This not being the same thing as Mac classic *hardware*. A Mac classic machine definitely won't run MacOS 9 Classic. Hope that clears things up. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.6.1 build Help needed
At 5:10 PM -0700 9/29/08, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: I downloaded a brand new zip of 2.6.1 from RunRev on line. On unzipping it with Stuffit on my Classic mac, I misinterpreted Classic Mac as Mac Classic (Hardware, 9 screen) --- (hey it's possible to have one, but you can't run Rev on it). 9.2.2 ROCKS on a G4 you can boot from AND in Classic. The best and last build of system 9. A Mac Classic is pretty much for macho collectors, but one can still run 7.6.1 and use a SE 30 as an SMTP serverha ha Hi Stephen, I've been running 9.2.2 on a G4 a VERY long time. A little bit slow by today's standards, but it was my workhorse for years and years. Ooops! only 9.2.1. I thought I had upgraded it, but apparently not. (smile) I did increase the RAM to 768 MB, however, along with 30 and 60 GB hard drives. And it has the monster big Apple Display CRT. Got a hernia every time I moved it around. About 5 years ago, it went down on me and I had to pay Apple $500 to fix it - no AppleCare. But that's the only things I've ever had go bad in 22-23 years with Macs. Joe Wilkins (Maybe I should knock on wood?) -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Painting on an image in a group?
Recently, David Bovill wrote: I am really looking for a solution for painting an image that is within a group. There doesn't appear to be a direct solution to this problem, so I made a small exercise out of it and came up with a workaround called Proxy Paint. Execute the following in your Rev message box: go url http://www.tactilemedia.com/download/proxypaint.rev; This solution uses a separate image object outside the group to capture paint data, and then transfer it to the grouped image. Maybe something like this can help. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT Font Question
Thanks, François. I'll check it out. Mark On Sep 29, 2008, at 12:07 PM, François Chaplais wrote: Le 29 sept. 08 à 20:34, Mark Swindell a écrit : Does anyone here know if there exists a font that combines the letters that make phonemes, be they digraphs, dipthongs, or just multiple letters (oo, ee, ea)? For example, the word cough would have three phonemic chunks: c - ou - gh. But the phonetic representations of the short o phoneme (ou) and the /f/ (gh) would be squished up against each other so they would be recognized as a chunk, not as separate letters? Does this make sense? I suggest you post your question at [EMAIL PROTECTED] XeTeX is a typesetting system based on TeX, with a emphasis on the use of exotic writing systems. You question is not a TeX question, but you might find in this mailing list somebody who knows of an OpenType font with phonetic glyphs. If you are interested, an introduction on XeTeX can be found at http://cern.ch/XML/lgc2/xetexmain.pdf do not feel obliged to read all of it, this is just to give you some perspective on what XeTeX is about and why grouping characters into glyphs (in arabic languages, for instance) is part of the preoccupations of the people behind XeTeX. Best regards, François ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT Font Question
Devin, Thanks for the link. I'm actually after something that I think may not exist. It would be similar in function to an IPA font, but with regular English character pairs whose kerning would be reduced so that they would represent a single visual unit, mirroring how they represent sound. Good would be G oo d and shallow would be sh a ll ow. It would require tweaking the kerning between digraph letter pairs and dipthongs to tighten them up, while keeping regular spacing between these double letters, single letters, and words. I'm not sure it's worth the trouble to create, but in teaching I find that some children have a difficult time seeing that sh for example, is not s h but rather its own phonetic unit. (A parallel: until fairly recently, ch was the fourth letter of the Spanish alphabet, though it was never represented with tighter kerning... I think the Real Academia might have done away with that one, as well as the ll, at least for purposes of alphabetizing. (Wikpedia: In 1994, it ruled that the Spanish consonants CH (ché) and LL (elle) would hence be alphabetized under C and under L, respectively, and not as separate, discrete letters, as in the past.) The idea was to be able to present text to kids written with these combinations emphasized while retaining a somewhat natural look. Mark, On Sep 29, 2008, at 12:28 PM, Devin Asay wrote: On Sep 29, 2008, at 12:34 PM, Mark Swindell wrote: Does anyone here know if there exists a font that combines the letters that make phonemes, be they digraphs, dipthongs, or just multiple letters (oo, ee, ea)? For example, the word cough would have three phonemic chunks: c - ou - gh. But the phonetic representations of the short o phoneme (ou) and the / f/ (gh) would be squished up against each other so they would be recognized as a chunk, not as separate letters? Does this make sense? Not exactly sure what you are after. Would an IPA font do what you wanted? You can get some very good ones from sil.org: http://www.sil.org/computing/catalog/show_software_catalog.asp?by=catname=Font HTH Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
