Re-2: I cannot paste in any field in an app (consisting of up to 7 stacks)

2008-10-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi all, 

thanks for the advise list! I checked the suggestions - and I think I have 
found the point
I have identified the problem but do not understand it (and the idea about the 
edit menu of malte has helped me finding):

I have a navigation background in all the stacks (=above all in the event 
hierarchy). I have made a test stack consisting only of some fields and this 
background group. With the background in it I cannot paste in the fields, after 
deleting the background I can.

I have deleted the script in the background = the problem is the same therefore 
not in the script (I had no paste routines there).

It is only the group object (marked as background without any further special 
details) which causes this behaviour that I cannot paste (Strg-V) into the 
fields of the stack where this background is included. Does the event STRG-V = 
paste be stopped by a background generally?

I have put the teststack into URL
http://animabit.de/runrev/test.rev
and a standalone loading this stack into
http://animabit.de/runrev/test.exe

If anyone wants to test this behaviour.

Regards, Franz
Original Messageprocessed by David InfoCenter 
Subject: Re: I cannot paste in any field in an app (consisting of up to 7 
stacks) (30-Sep-2008 15:15)
From:Malte Brill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


hi,

may sound stupid. Have you tried adding a menubar that has an edit 
menu to the main stack? If not could you try and see if you can paste 
then? If so I might be close to a godzilla report.

Cheers,

Malte
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Re: Re-2: I cannot paste in any field in an app (consisting of up to 7 stacks)

2008-10-01 Thread Chipp Walters
I'm on WinXP and I have no problem cutting and pasting text on your
demo stack using Rev 3.0.
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Re-4: I cannot paste in any field in an app (consisting of up to 7 stacks)

2008-10-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Chipp:

In the IDE or in a standalone?
I only have the problem when running in the standalone!

Regards, Franz

Original Messageprocessed by David InfoCenter 
Subject: Re: Re-2: I cannot paste in any field in an app (consisting of up to 7 
stacks) (01-Okt-2008 9:32)
From:Chipp Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I'm on WinXP and I have no problem cutting and pasting text on your
demo stack using Rev 3.0.
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Re: Re-4: I cannot paste in any field in an app (consisting of up to 7 stacks)

2008-10-01 Thread Chipp Walters
I'm using the IDE. I cannot debug the standalone.
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Re-6: I cannot paste in any field in an app (consisting of up to 7 stacks)

2008-10-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello Chipp.

Thanks you very much!

the http://animabit.de/runrev/test.exe is a 2.9 standalone which loads the 
runrev stack with the same name in the same dir. If someone wants to download  
both files in a dir and test it.

The Problem are the menuitems in the background group in a standalone. If I 
delete the menuitems and just put a button in the background group it works in 
the standalone.

If anyone had the time to make a windows standalone out of the test.rev stack 
with 3.0 we could see whether the problem is still alive or solved.


Thanks for your testing.

Regards, Franz 

Original Messageprocessed by David InfoCenter 
Subject: Re: Re-4: I cannot paste in any field in an app (consisting of up to 7 
stacks) (01-Okt-2008 10:35)
From:Chipp Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I'm using the IDE. I cannot debug the standalone.
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Re: Re-6: I cannot paste in any field in an app (consisting of up to 7 stacks)

2008-10-01 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins

Hi Franz,

I downloaded the standalone and attempted to run it on my Intel Mac  
with Leopard running XP under VMWare's Fusion. It wouldn't open at  
all, so I have no idea what your problem may be.


Joe Wilkins

On Oct 1, 2008, at 1:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello Chipp.

Thanks you very much!

the http://animabit.de/runrev/test.exe is a 2.9 standalone which  
loads the runrev stack with the same name in the same dir. If  
someone wants to download  both files in a dir and test it.


The Problem are the menuitems in the background group in a  
standalone. If I delete the menuitems and just put a button in the  
background group it works in the standalone.


If anyone had the time to make a windows standalone out of the  
test.rev stack with 3.0 we could see whether the problem is still  
alive or solved.



Thanks for your testing.

Regards, Franz







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Re-6: I cannot paste in any field in an app (consisting of up to 7 stacks)

2008-10-01 Thread Malte Brill

Hi Franz,

also does not work with a 3.0 Standalone. Please report this to QCC.  
XP Pro, german.


All the best,

Malte
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Re-7: I cannot paste in any field in an app (reproducable bug, final report)

2008-10-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hallo Malte, Chipp, Tiemo, Neal, Devin

Thanks to all.

The Problem is identified and reproducable as a bug even in 3.0 standalone 
(thanks Malte Brill). 
Will report the bug in the bugcenter. 

For me actually solvable by replacing all menuitems in the navigation group (= 
I do not use the menueditor anymore) by buttons and a script in the group

on mouseup
send menuPick  the label of target 
end mouseup

Finis.

Regards, Franz



Original Messageprocessed by David InfoCenter 
Subject: Re-6: I cannot paste in any field in an app (consisting of up to 7 
stacks) (01-Okt-2008 10:59)
From:Malte Brill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Hi Franz,

also does not work with a 3.0 Standalone. Please report this to QCC. 
XP Pro, german.

All the best,

Malte
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[ANN][EN][FR] Images Picker 1.0 Utility by So Smart Software

2008-10-01 Thread Eric Chatonet

Paris, Wednesday, October 1, 2008

-- English version -

I'm happy to announce that Images Picker 1.0 is available:

This utility for Revolution 2.7 or later displays as thumbnails all  
PNG, JPEG or GIF images found in the top stack and its substacks  
according to filters you have set (format, size, sort order, etc.).
Then it allows to export selected real size images to independent  
files in their native format or the one you choose for converting them.

Preferences and help included.

You will find it by going to http://www.sosmartsoftware.com -  
Revolution/Plugins section.

Screenshots and more information on my website.

Best regards,
Eric Chatonet.

- Version française 

J'ai de plaisir d'annoncer la sortie de Images Picker 1.0 :

Cet utilitaire pour Revolution 2.7 ou ultérieur affiche les vignettes  
de toutes les images PNG, JPEG or GIF trouvées dans une pile en  
fonction des filtres spécifiés (format, taille, ordre de tri, etc.).
Ensuite, Images Picker permet d'exporter les images sélectionnées en  
taille réelle comme fichiers indépendants dans leur format d'origine  
ou celui que vous aurez choisi pour les convertir.

Préférences et aide (en anglais) incluses.

Rendez-vous sur http://www.sosmartsoftware.com - Section Revolution/ 
Plugins.

Copies d'écran et plus d'information sur mon site.

Cordialement,
Eric Chatonet.

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Standalone Saving Woes

2008-10-01 Thread Dave

Hi All,

I have a Stack that attempts to automate the process of building a  
standalone application. This works well, I save the Standalone  
Settings in an SQLite database and set them when I want to build a  
particular application. However, I have one really grotty problem, I  
need to be able to control which folder the Standalone gets saved in.


If you do this manually via the Fie Menu Item, it pops up a Standard  
Get Folder dialog (which is VERY annoying anyway! Why the Folder to  
save the Standalone is not specified in the Standalone Settings Array  
along with all the other build information is beyond me??!!), I have  
some AppleScript that sends Keystrokes to RunRev to set the correct  
path, but this is VERY hit and miss and only works 1 in 3 times. I  
have been looking at the IDE code and it looks like the code that  
Saves a Standalone is protected so I can't edit the scripts. From  
looking at the code that is unprotected I have found the place where  
the Standalone Save code gets called:


send revSaveAsStandalone  quote  myStackShortName  quote to  
stack revSaveAsStandalone


I think it would have been a MUCH better idea to pass the Build  
Folder Path to the revSaveAsStandalone handler as a second parameter.  
I imagine the code could easily be changed as so:


on revSaveAsStandalone theStackName,theBuildFolderPathName

..
..

if (theBuildFolderPathName  empty) and (there is a folder  
theBuildFolderPathName) then

put theBuildFolderPathName into it
else
answer folder Choose a Folder to Build in.
end if

Carry on as normal

Do you think that I could get RunRev to do this change? If so how  
much do you think would be a reasonably price for such a modification?


All the Best
Dave


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Possible Windows Developer Required

2008-10-01 Thread Dave

Hi All,

We may have the need for a windows developer to help out of an  
existing Mac/Windows application. Here is the job spec:


Job Description:

Windows Engineer (XP and Vista) needed to work on cross platform (Mac  
and Windows) application. The Application communicates with iTunes  
and Internet Explorer using JavaScript/COM. The area of work will  
involve working with the lead engineer to bring the application up to  
the same level as the Macintosh version.


Job Skills:

Windows XP and Vista.
JavaScript.
COM.
Scripting.
iTunes (would be advantageous).
Run Time Revolution (would be advantageous).


If anyone is interested pleased contact me on my private email address.

All the Best
Dave


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RunRev AppleScript Question

2008-10-01 Thread Dave

Hi All,

Given the Statement:

send revSaveAsStandalone  quote  myStackShortName  quote to  
stack revSaveAsStandalone


What statement would I have to pass to the Revolution do script  
AppleScript command to do the same thing?


Thanks a lot
All the Best
Dave


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Re: RunRev AppleScript Question

2008-10-01 Thread Dave

Hi Mark,

I just tried the following:

set myStackShortName to SATest1
set myScript to send \revSaveAsStandalone\  quote   
myStackShortName  quote to stack \revSaveAsStandalone\

tell application Revolution
do script myScript
end tell

And it doesn't work!

I've been trying loads of different syntax's but I can't find the  
secret code!


Here's an interesting one:

In Stack Script of SATest1 I have the following handler:

on Beeper theMessage
beep
answer theMessage
end Beeper

Then from the AppleScript I do:

set myQuote to (ASCII character 34)

set myRRScript to send beeperquotemyQuote  Message  
 myQuotequoteto stack   myQuote  SATest1  myQuote


Which works and displays Message, however if I change it to:

set myRRScript to send beeperquotemyQuote  Hello  
Message  myQuotequoteto stack   myQuote  SATest1  
 myQuote


Then Beeper gets called (it beeps!) BUT the message is empty?

What gives???

All the Best
Dave


On 1 Oct 2008, at 13:02, Mark Schonewille wrote:


Dave,

set myScript to
	send \revSaveAsStandalone\  quote  myStackShortName  quote  
to stack \revSaveAsStandalone\

tell application Standalone to do script myScript

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On 1 okt 2008, at 13:41, Dave wrote:


Hi All,

Given the Statement:

send revSaveAsStandalone  quote  myStackShortName  quote to  
stack revSaveAsStandalone


What statement would I have to pass to the Revolution do script  
AppleScript command to do the same thing?


Thanks a lot
All the Best
Dave


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Re: RunRev AppleScript Question

2008-10-01 Thread Mark Schonewille

Dave,

set myScript to
	send \revSaveAsStandalone\  quote  myStackShortName  quote to  
stack \revSaveAsStandalone\

tell application Standalone to do script myScript

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On 1 okt 2008, at 13:41, Dave wrote:


Hi All,

Given the Statement:

send revSaveAsStandalone  quote  myStackShortName  quote to  
stack revSaveAsStandalone


What statement would I have to pass to the Revolution do script  
AppleScript command to do the same thing?


Thanks a lot
All the Best
Dave


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decompress - result = 1

2008-10-01 Thread Klaus Major

Hi all,

can someone maybe give me a little hint what the result 1 means when I  
decompress a file?


Here is an excerpt of an update/install routine of our current project.
This is happening on a Mac, will have to test on windows later.

All filenames, references etc. are VALID!

...
## Dateinamen zusammenbasteln...
## CONTRUCT FILENAMES
  put the ims_installer_ordner of this stack  win_exe.gz into win_gz
  put win_ordner  iDual IMS.exe into win_ziel

  ## Dateien kopieren...
 ## COPY FILES
  ## EXE
  put url(binfile:  win_gz) into w1
  put decompress(w1) into w2
  if the result  empty then

### Error decompressing Windows Runtime#
answer Fehler beim entpacken der Windows Runtime!  CR  the  
result

 HERE I get 1 as the result***

alles_auf_anfang
exit to top
 ! see below...

  end if

### WORKS!???
  put w2 into url(binfile:  win_ziel)
  if the result  empty then

### WORKS!???
answer Fehler beim schreiben der Windows Runtime!  CR  the  
result

alles_auf_anfang
exit to top
  end if
###
...

***
The REALLY strange things are: the other decompress actions run  
without errors
AND although there is an exit to top statement, the scripts keeps on  
running and

afterwards EVERYTHING has been installed without problems?

So does 1 as the result of a decompress action really indicate that  
something went wrong?

Could not find a hint in the docs.

Any insights very welcome.
Thanks in advance!


Best

Klaus Major
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http://www.major-k.de


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Sharing stack via revonline

2008-10-01 Thread Severin Swensen
I shared a stack online via revonline and have trouble updating it to  
a new version.

I share it the first time and put in a description
Then I save it to my local drive.
Next time a load the stack from my local drive make some changes and  
click share this stack.
This opens the revonline viewer I click on my space and tried various  
alternatives but can not update the shared stack, short of deleting it  
and then adding it again.


Thanks
Severin
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Re: Sharing stack via revonline

2008-10-01 Thread Mark Schonewille

Hi Severin,

Create a stack, save it on disk. Choose Share This Stack from the file  
menu. Immediately after uploading it to RevOnline, save the stack again.


Next time when you choose Share This Stack from the file menu, meaning  
to share the same stack again, it will update automatically instead of  
uploading a copy.


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On 1 okt 2008, at 15:21, Severin Swensen wrote:

I shared a stack online via revonline and have trouble updating it  
to a new version.

I share it the first time and put in a description
Then I save it to my local drive.
Next time a load the stack from my local drive make some changes and  
click share this stack.
This opens the revonline viewer I click on my space and tried  
various alternatives but can not update the shared stack, short of  
deleting it and then adding it again.


Thanks
Severin


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Re: Sharing stack via revonline

2008-10-01 Thread -= JB =-

I have the same problems.  The solution is do not update it.
Use the delete button instead of updating and then use the
same steps to put it on as you did the last time you put it on.

-=JB=-



On Oct 1, 2008, at 6:21 AM, Severin Swensen wrote:

I shared a stack online via revonline and have trouble updating it  
to a new version.

I share it the first time and put in a description
Then I save it to my local drive.
Next time a load the stack from my local drive make some changes  
and click share this stack.
This opens the revonline viewer I click on my space and tried  
various alternatives but can not update the shared stack, short of  
deleting it and then adding it again.


Thanks
Severin
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Re: RunRev AppleScript Question

2008-10-01 Thread Robert Brenstein

On 01.10.2008 at 13:30 Uhr +0100 Dave apparently wrote:

Which works and displays Message, however if I change it to:

set myRRScript to send beeperquotemyQuote  Hello 
Message  myQuotequoteto stack   myQuote  
SATest1  myQuote


Then Beeper gets called (it beeps!) BUT the message is empty?

What gives???

All the Best
Dave



Have you tried to urlencode the Hello Message?

Robert
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Re: RunRev AppleScript Question

2008-10-01 Thread Mark Schonewille

Hi Dave,

myStackShortName is part of the string, it isn't parsed by  
AppleScript. I suppose Rev can't find stack myStackShortName.


Here's an example that works.

I have a stack Untitled 1 with the following script:

on foo theString
   beep
   put theString
end foo

and I made this AppleScript:

set myScript to send \foo\  quote  \Hello World\  quote to  
stack \Untitled 1\

tell application Revolution to do script myScript

If run this script from within Script Editor, I hear the beep and the  
message box contains Hello World.


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On 1 okt 2008, at 14:30, Dave wrote:


Hi Mark,

I just tried the following:

set myStackShortName to SATest1
set myScript to send \revSaveAsStandalone\  quote   
myStackShortName  quote to stack \revSaveAsStandalone\

tell application Revolution
do script myScript
end tell

And it doesn't work!

I've been trying loads of different syntax's but I can't find the  
secret code!


Here's an interesting one:

In Stack Script of SATest1 I have the following handler:

on Beeper theMessage
beep
answer theMessage
end Beeper

Then from the AppleScript I do:

set myQuote to (ASCII character 34)

set myRRScript to send beeperquotemyQuote   
Message  myQuotequoteto stack   myQuote   
SATest1  myQuote


Which works and displays Message, however if I change it to:

set myRRScript to send beeperquotemyQuote  Hello  
Message  myQuotequoteto stack   myQuote   
SATest1  myQuote


Then Beeper gets called (it beeps!) BUT the message is empty?

What gives???

All the Best
Dave



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Re: RunRev AppleScript Question

2008-10-01 Thread Thomas McGrath III

Dave

Try this:

set myScript to send \foo Hello World\  to card 1 of stack  
\Untitled 1\

tell application Revolution to do script myScript

it works here just fine and if you change the RR script to :

on foo theString
  beep
  return theString
end foo

then it will return the string to AS

HTHs

Tom McGrath


On Oct 1, 2008, at 8:30 AM, Dave wrote:


Hi Mark,

I just tried the following:

set myStackShortName to SATest1
set myScript to send \revSaveAsStandalone\  quote   
myStackShortName  quote to stack \revSaveAsStandalone\

tell application Revolution
do script myScript
end tell

And it doesn't work!

I've been trying loads of different syntax's but I can't find the  
secret code!


Here's an interesting one:

In Stack Script of SATest1 I have the following handler:

on Beeper theMessage
beep
answer theMessage
end Beeper

Then from the AppleScript I do:

set myQuote to (ASCII character 34)

set myRRScript to send beeperquotemyQuote   
Message  myQuotequoteto stack   myQuote   
SATest1  myQuote


Which works and displays Message, however if I change it to:

set myRRScript to send beeperquotemyQuote  Hello  
Message  myQuotequoteto stack   myQuote   
SATest1  myQuote


Then Beeper gets called (it beeps!) BUT the message is empty?

What gives???

All the Best
Dave


On 1 Oct 2008, at 13:02, Mark Schonewille wrote:


Dave,

set myScript to
	send \revSaveAsStandalone\  quote  myStackShortName  quote  
to stack \revSaveAsStandalone\

tell application Standalone to do script myScript

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On 1 okt 2008, at 13:41, Dave wrote:


Hi All,

Given the Statement:

send revSaveAsStandalone  quote  myStackShortName  quote to  
stack revSaveAsStandalone


What statement would I have to pass to the Revolution do script  
AppleScript command to do the same thing?


Thanks a lot
All the Best
Dave


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Re: RunRev AppleScript Question

2008-10-01 Thread Thomas McGrath III
I have found that if the code is at the card level then I have to  
include the card in AS.


Also, the variable myStackShortName variable is actually being sent as  
the text myStackShortName and not the name that variable holds.


If SATest1 is declared in RR then this will work:
set myScript to send \revSaveAsStandalone  myStackShortName\ to  
stack \revSaveAsStandalone\


BUT if it needs to be declared in AS then you should build the script  
in AS:
set myScript to send \revSaveAsStandalone SATest1\  to stack  
\revSaveAsStandalone\


HTHs

Tom McGrath

On Oct 1, 2008, at 10:32 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote:


Dave

Try this:

set myScript to send \foo Hello World\  to card 1 of stack  
\Untitled 1\

tell application Revolution to do script myScript

it works here just fine and if you change the RR script to :

on foo theString
 beep
 return theString
end foo

then it will return the string to AS

HTHs

Tom McGrath


On Oct 1, 2008, at 8:30 AM, Dave wrote:


Hi Mark,

I just tried the following:

set myStackShortName to SATest1
set myScript to send \revSaveAsStandalone\  quote   
myStackShortName  quote to stack \revSaveAsStandalone\

tell application Revolution
do script myScript
end tell

And it doesn't work!

I've been trying loads of different syntax's but I can't find the  
secret code!


Here's an interesting one:

In Stack Script of SATest1 I have the following handler:

on Beeper theMessage
beep
answer theMessage
end Beeper

Then from the AppleScript I do:

set myQuote to (ASCII character 34)

set myRRScript to send beeperquotemyQuote   
Message  myQuotequoteto stack   myQuote   
SATest1  myQuote


Which works and displays Message, however if I change it to:

set myRRScript to send beeperquotemyQuote  Hello  
Message  myQuotequoteto stack   myQuote   
SATest1  myQuote


Then Beeper gets called (it beeps!) BUT the message is empty?

What gives???

All the Best
Dave


On 1 Oct 2008, at 13:02, Mark Schonewille wrote:


Dave,

set myScript to
	send \revSaveAsStandalone\  quote  myStackShortName  quote  
to stack \revSaveAsStandalone\

tell application Standalone to do script myScript

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On 1 okt 2008, at 13:41, Dave wrote:


Hi All,

Given the Statement:

send revSaveAsStandalone  quote  myStackShortName  quote to  
stack revSaveAsStandalone


What statement would I have to pass to the Revolution do script  
AppleScript command to do the same thing?


Thanks a lot
All the Best
Dave


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Re: RunRev AppleScript Question

2008-10-01 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Sorry, I left out the to card 1 -- which is fine in case your scripts  
are at the stack level but if they are on the card then include the to  
card 1 of stack \revSaveAsStandalone\


TM III
On Oct 1, 2008, at 10:41 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote:

I have found that if the code is at the card level then I have to  
include the card in AS.


Also, the variable myStackShortName variable is actually being sent  
as the text myStackShortName and not the name that variable holds.


If SATest1 is declared in RR then this will work:
set myScript to send \revSaveAsStandalone  myStackShortName\ to  
stack \revSaveAsStandalone\


BUT if it needs to be declared in AS then you should build the  
script in AS:
set myScript to send \revSaveAsStandalone SATest1\  to stack  
\revSaveAsStandalone\


HTHs

Tom McGrath

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Re: RunRev AppleScript Question

2008-10-01 Thread BNig

Hi Dave,

building on Marks script a version that is not hard coded and with return as
suggested by Tom in applescript:
I send it to the current card since it seems that when you just send it to
the stack it doesnt go further down the message path whereas if you send it
to a card it goes up the message path, although the documentation says an
apple event is sent to the current card.



set tHello to Hello World
set tStackName to Untitled 1
set myScript to send \foo\  quote  \  tHello  \  quote to
current card of stack \  tStackName  \
tell application Revolution to do script myScript
set x to the result

 

on the Revolution side:

--
on foo theString
beep
put theString
return OK
end foo
-

still dizzy form all the quotes and  and \  :-)

regards

Bernd
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Re: Just pondering - Rev CGI iPhone

2008-10-01 Thread Andre Garzia
Ciao Sims,

I've built some pretty sophisticated cgis with revolution and I've
been doing little iPhone stuff. Be aware that you can't sell web apps
in the app store. The app store is for native applications. Ops, I
just re read your email, I understood it wrong. Yes you can do some
pretty nice stuff for iPhone web apps, check the iUI library.

Cheers
andre

On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 2:26 AM, Jim Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 After fiddling with some Rev CGI stuff here for a couple
 of weeks, I'm wondering how far this might take someone
 towards a sophisticated web app for the iPhone. Just think'in,
 mind you.

 They wouldn't be sold via the Apple App store, but that just might
 have some upside, especially when considering the restrictions
 Apple can throw at developers   ;-)

 I wonder what cool Rev CGI apps already exist out there?

 sims


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RR in Wine

2008-10-01 Thread Mikey
My that's-no-laptop-it's-a-spacestation has gone to the next world.

I'm thinking of going HARD into the Linux wall.  I see that there are
RR issues in Linux.

How well does RR run in Wine?
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Re: Re-6: I cannot paste in any field in an app (consisting of up to 7 stacks)

2008-10-01 Thread Mark Wieder
Franz-

Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 1:45:33 AM, you wrote:

 the http://animabit.de/runrev/test.exe is a 2.9 standalone which
 loads the runrev stack with the same name in the same dir. If
 someone wants to download  both files in a dir and test it.

 The Problem are the menuitems in the background group in a
 standalone. If I delete the menuitems and just put a button in the
 background group it works in the standalone.

Here's your problem: in your background menu group you have defined
the control-V keyboard sequence, so you're trapping it from the
keyboard in your Bearbeiten button but you haven't put in any code to
process it.

You can paste into the fields with control-shift-insert, so the paste
mechanism is working fine in the standalone. You can change the
keyboard equivalent for the paste operation in your menu, or you can
put some paste code in the menu handler.

on menuPick pChoice
 answer I got it
end menuPick

Now... here's where I think this is still a bug... if you disable the
Bearbeiten button then you obviously can't select it with the mouse.
But it *still traps the control-V keyboard sequence*. I think
disabling the button should disable the keyboard traps as well.

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Rev Standalone and Encryption

2008-10-01 Thread Ted
Hello,

I have two questions about the Rev Standalone Builder Encrypt with Password
feature.

1. How does the password come into play? After activating this feature, the
completed standalone doesn't ask for a password. What is the purpose of the
password, and is there any reason to keep a record of it?

2. Does the encryption slow down the application at all--or does it totally
decrypt on opening?


Thanks,

Ted


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Re: Rev Standalone and Encryption

2008-10-01 Thread Bill Vlahos
Ted

The password doesn't impact the running of the program but it does prevent 
anyone from seeing your code. Your source code is included in the standalone so 
it is visible if someone wants to look at it.

The only reason to keep a record of the password is if you ever wanted to see 
the code and lost your source file.

Bill Vlahos
 
On Wednesday, October 01, 2008, at 09:22AM, Ted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,

I have two questions about the Rev Standalone Builder Encrypt with Password
feature.

1. How does the password come into play? After activating this feature, the
completed standalone doesn't ask for a password. What is the purpose of the
password, and is there any reason to keep a record of it?

2. Does the encryption slow down the application at all--or does it totally
decrypt on opening?


Thanks,

Ted


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Re: Rev Standalone and Encryption

2008-10-01 Thread Mark Schonewille

Hi Ted,

When you set a password, all your scripts are encrypted. When a stack  
opens, either in Revolution or in a standalone, the scripts are  
decrypted. However, there is no way to see the scripts in the open  
stack and when you save the stack to disk all scripts are encrypted  
again. Surely, you will want to remember the passwords used for your  
stacks, if you want to change the scripts.


The encryption doesn't slow down the execution of scripts at all. They  
are decrypted when the stack opens --yet inaccessible to the user--  
and run without delay once the stack is open.


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On 1 okt 2008, at 18:22, Ted wrote:


Hello,

I have two questions about the Rev Standalone Builder Encrypt with  
Password

feature.

1. How does the password come into play? After activating this  
feature, the
completed standalone doesn't ask for a password. What is the purpose  
of the

password, and is there any reason to keep a record of it?

2. Does the encryption slow down the application at all--or does it  
totally

decrypt on opening?


Thanks,

Ted



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Re: Rev Standalone and Encryption

2008-10-01 Thread Mark Schonewille

Hi Bill,

I'm not exactly sure what you meant to write, but when a stack has a  
password set, the scripts are not visible in the standalone. You can't  
open the standalone in a text editor and see the scripts.


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On 1 okt 2008, at 18:22, Bill Vlahos wrote:


Ted

The password doesn't impact the running of the program but it does  
prevent anyone from seeing your code. Your source code is included  
in the standalone so it is visible if someone wants to look at it.


The only reason to keep a record of the password is if you ever  
wanted to see the code and lost your source file.


Bill Vlahos


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Re-8: I cannot paste in any field in an app (consisting of up to 7 stacks)

2008-10-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello 

thanks for the good info, Mark!
I have a menuPick handler in the script of the main stack to handle all menus.

After opening the group in the menueditor I saw what you mean. 
Where in the group menu does runrev store this information about shortcuts?


Regards, Franz


Original Messageprocessed by David InfoCenter 
Subject: Re: Re-6: I cannot paste in any field in an app (consisting of up to 7 
stacks) (01-Okt-2008 18:06)
From:Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Franz-

Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 1:45:33 AM, you wrote:

 the http://animabit.de/runrev/test.exe is a 2.9 standalone which
 loads the runrev stack with the same name in the same dir. If
 someone wants to download both files in a dir and test it.

 The Problem are the menuitems in the background group in a
 standalone. If I delete the menuitems and just put a button in the
 background group it works in the standalone.

Here's your problem: in your background menu group you have defined
the control-V keyboard sequence, so you're trapping it from the
keyboard in your Bearbeiten button but you haven't put in any code to
process it.

You can paste into the fields with control-shift-insert, so the paste
mechanism is working fine in the standalone. You can change the
keyboard equivalent for the paste operation in your menu, or you can
put some paste code in the menu handler.

on menuPick pChoice
answer I got it
end menuPick

Now... here's where I think this is still a bug... if you disable the
Bearbeiten button then you obviously can't select it with the mouse.
But it *still traps the control-V keyboard sequence*. I think
disabling the button should disable the keyboard traps as well.

-- 
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Re: OT Font Question

2008-10-01 Thread Adrian Williams

We offer a digraphs font exactly as you describe.
The original typefaces were researched and developed
for use in education to teach children and adults (this version)...
http://www.clubtype.co.uk/fonts/sas/s460sample.html

Sassoon® Jolly Phonics Digraph fonts will enable you to write easy-to- 
use pronunciation guides for children or adults.


This product is part of the larger Sassoon® Project...
http://www.clubtype.co.uk/fonts/sas/sasslist_com.html

Hope that helps?
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On 30 Sep 2008, at 05:31, Mark Swindell wrote:


Devin,

Thanks for the link.  I'm actually after something that I think may  
not exist.  It would be similar in function to an IPA font, but with  
regular English character pairs whose kerning would be reduced so  
that they would represent a single visual unit, mirroring how they  
represent sound.  Good would be G oo d and shallow would be  
sh a ll ow.  It would require tweaking the kerning between digraph  
letter pairs and dipthongs to tighten them up, while keeping regular  
spacing between these double letters, single letters, and words.


I'm not sure it's worth the trouble to create, but in teaching I  
find that some children have a difficult time seeing that sh for  
example, is not s h but rather its own phonetic unit.  (A  
parallel: until fairly recently, ch was the fourth letter of the  
Spanish alphabet, though it was never represented with tighter  
kerning... I think the Real Academia might have done away with that  
one, as well as the ll, at least for purposes of alphabetizing.   
(Wikpedia: In 1994, it ruled that the Spanish consonants CH (ché)  
and LL (elle) would hence be alphabetized under C and under L,  
respectively, and not as separate, discrete letters, as in the past.)


The idea was to be able to present text to kids written with these  
combinations emphasized while retaining a somewhat natural look.


Mark,

On Sep 29, 2008, at 12:28 PM, Devin Asay wrote:



On Sep 29, 2008, at 12:34 PM, Mark Swindell wrote:

Does anyone here know if there exists a font that combines the  
letters

that make phonemes, be they digraphs, dipthongs, or just multiple
letters (oo, ee, ea)?

For example, the word cough would have three phonemic chunks: c  
- ou

- gh.

But the phonetic representations of the short o phoneme (ou) and  
the /

f/ (gh) would be squished up against each other so they would be
recognized as a chunk, not as separate letters?  Does this make  
sense?


Not exactly sure what you are after. Would an IPA font do what you  
wanted? You can get some very good ones from sil.org:


http://www.sil.org/computing/catalog/show_software_catalog.asp?by=catname=Font

HTH

Devin

Devin Asay
Humanities Technology and Research Support Center
Brigham Young University

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Re: Rev Standalone and Encryption

2008-10-01 Thread Eric Chatonet

Bonsoir Ted, Bill et Mark,

Just an add-up to this thread with an email I posted to the Improve  
list less than a week ago:


I work every day with protected stacks and here is the way I make  
my life easy with them:


I have a text file with a list of passwords and stack names in it.
At every stack (or substack) preOpenStack I have a routine in a  
library that checks if this file exists, parse it and set the  
passkey accordingly.
In distribution, this file of course is not included and, in  
addition, the routine is skipped when the environment is not 'Dev'  
then all stacks stay protected.

But in my 'Dev' environment, I am never prompted to enter any PW.



Le 1 oct. 08 à 18:45, Mark Schonewille a écrit :

When you set a password, all your scripts are encrypted. When a  
stack opens, either in Revolution or in a standalone, the scripts  
are decrypted. However, there is no way to see the scripts in the  
open stack and when you save the stack to disk all scripts are  
encrypted again. Surely, you will want to remember the passwords  
used for your stacks, if you want to change the scripts.


The encryption doesn't slow down the execution of scripts at all.  
They are decrypted when the stack opens --yet inaccessible to the  
user-- and run without delay once the stack is open.


BTW, I confirm what Mark said: SSL encryption/decryption is really  
amazingly fast :-)


Best regards from Paris,
Eric Chatonet.

Plugins and tutorials for Revolution: http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/
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Re: Re-8: I cannot paste in any field in an app (consisting of up to 7 stacks)

2008-10-01 Thread Mark Wieder
Franz-

Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 9:52:51 AM, you wrote:

 Where in the group menu does runrev store this information about shortcuts?

Now *that's* a good question. Since your original stack works in the
IDE but not a standalone, I'd guess that the process of building the
standalone binds the keyboard equivalents, but I don't have a clue as
to when or where this happens.

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Is this a memory issue?

2008-10-01 Thread Dan Friedman
Greetings!

I have an standalone application that I am importing data into.  The data is
being imported into an array.  The data is just text - formatted as XML.
Each record being imported is pretty small - about 20 lines containing [on
average] about 365 characters.

The application processes the data [creating a new key in the array] VERY
fast until it hits about the 415th record.  Then, it begins to slow down.
With each new record it gets slower and slower.  It will eventually finish
without error.

This is happening on Windows only.  On a Mac, it whizzes through all the
records with no problem.

Is this memory?  Is there something that I can do?  Anyone got any
suggestions?

Thank you in advance!
-Dan


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Re: Is this a memory issue?

2008-10-01 Thread Richard Gaskin

Dan Friedman wrote:

I have an standalone application that I am importing data into.  The data is
being imported into an array.  The data is just text - formatted as XML.
Each record being imported is pretty small - about 20 lines containing [on
average] about 365 characters.

The application processes the data [creating a new key in the array] VERY
fast until it hits about the 415th record.  Then, it begins to slow down.
With each new record it gets slower and slower.  It will eventually finish
without error.

This is happening on Windows only.  On a Mac, it whizzes through all the
records with no problem.

Is this memory?  Is there something that I can do?  Anyone got any
suggestions?


Performance degradation so noticeable isn't likely to be caused by a 
shortage of memory, esp. with such small data sets.


You could test it by rebooting, opening your System Monitor to show 
available RAM, run the routine a few times and see if memory stays 
allocated beyond what would seem normal.


My hunch is that there's something about the loop that's causing the 
slowdown, perhaps a repeat with i=1 to the number of lines or 
something like that which doesn't scale well.


Can you post the portion of your code that seems to be affected?

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Re: Painting on an image in a group?

2008-10-01 Thread Wilhelm Sanke
Looking through my mails after just having returned from a few days 
time-out for recreation I notice this Painting on an image in a 
group?-discussion:



On Mon Sep 29, 2008, Scott Rossi scott at tactilemedia.com wrote:


Recently, David Bovill wrote:

 I am really looking for a solution for painting an
 image that is within a group.

There doesn't appear to be a direct solution to this problem, so I made a
small exercise out of it and came up with a workaround called Proxy Paint.
Execute the following in your Rev message box:

  go url http://www.tactilemedia.com/download/proxypaint.rev;

This solution uses a separate image object outside the group to capture
paint data, and then transfer it to the grouped image.  Maybe 
something like

this can help.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia  Design



Some time ago we had a discussion on the Metacard list concerning 
related problems of painting and drawing on images inside a group. The 
solution found was to temporarily move the image outside the group, 
apply the changes to the image, and then move the image back into the 
group. The following script  demonstrates the implementation of this 
principle (button distortions: choose shape contains the script that 
applies changes to the image):



on mouseUp
 set the imagedata of img x to the imagedata of img x
 set the relayergroupedcontrols to true
 put the layer of img x into tlayer
 set the layer of img x to top
 send mouseup to btn distortions: choose shape
 set the layer of img x to tlayer
 set the relayergroupedcontrols to false
end mouseUp

So an alternative approach to Scott's proposal of creating and using a 
second image would be just to move the image outside the group 
temporarily and then put it back into the group after applying the changes.


Regards,

Wilhelm Sanke
http://www.sanke.org/MetaMedia

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Re: message box history - confused

2008-10-01 Thread Eric Chatonet

Bonsoir Bernard,

Of course, I'm not a star: I'm just blinking in the dark when I can.
MB messages are saved when Rev quits without problem: in case of  
crash, they are not saved.

So, I assume that in you case, it will not help.

Probably, you could use 4W_UmbrellaMan.rev from Richard Gaskin  
(http://www.fourthworld.com/products/devolution/index.html) in order  
to modify it to write a log on disk that will allow you to get  
relevant results.


Le 30 sept. 08 à 17:44, Bernard Devlin a écrit :

Thank you, Eric. You're a star.  I doubt I'll ever know as much as  
you do,

because you're already so far ahead :-)
So, I'm guessing that this revPreferences stack is updated every
returnInField in the MB.  I'll have to go and have a look at that.

Bernard

On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 1:55 PM, Eric Chatonet 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Bonjour Bernard,

All this is normal :-)
All messages are stored in the cREVSingleLineHistory of stack
revPreferences and there is only one stack revPreferences for
consistency when working with different Rev versions.

Le 30 sept. 08 à 13:57, Bernard Devlin a écrit :

 But this new behaviour (well, new to me) looks like the MB  
history is

being
shared between both 2.9 and 3.0.  If I had the standard  
installation,

where
someone had upgraded to Rev 3.0 from 2.9 (using check for  
updates), I

might
understand that Rev was saving the MB history.  But since I'm  
running two
independent installations of Rev, I'm confused by the MB history  
being

shared.

Is this normal?  And if so, how is it that Rev is sharing this  
history?
I've checked for hidden (dot) files in my Linux user directory,  
and there

are none there that seem to be associated with this.



Best regards from Paris,
Eric Chatonet.


Best regards from Paris,
Eric Chatonet.

Plugins and tutorials for Revolution: http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/



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Re: OT Font Question

2008-10-01 Thread Mark Swindell
Never mind that last.  I see the list and examples at the bottom of  
the page.  It would be nice if the jpg were of higher resolution so I  
could see them more clearly.


Mark

On Oct 1, 2008, at 10:28 AM, Adrian Williams wrote:


We offer a digraphs font exactly as you describe.
The original typefaces were researched and developed
for use in education to teach children and adults (this version)...
http://www.clubtype.co.uk/fonts/sas/s460sample.html

Sassoon® Jolly Phonics Digraph fonts will enable you to write easy- 
to-use pronunciation guides for children or adults.


This product is part of the larger Sassoon® Project...
http://www.clubtype.co.uk/fonts/sas/sasslist_com.html

Hope that helps?
Adrian
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On 30 Sep 2008, at 05:31, Mark Swindell wrote:


Devin,

Thanks for the link.  I'm actually after something that I think may  
not exist.  It would be similar in function to an IPA font, but  
with regular English character pairs whose kerning would be reduced  
so that they would represent a single visual unit, mirroring how  
they represent sound.  Good would be G oo d and shallow would  
be sh a ll ow.  It would require tweaking the kerning between  
digraph letter pairs and dipthongs to tighten them up, while  
keeping regular spacing between these double letters, single  
letters, and words.


I'm not sure it's worth the trouble to create, but in teaching I  
find that some children have a difficult time seeing that sh for  
example, is not s h but rather its own phonetic unit.  (A  
parallel: until fairly recently, ch was the fourth letter of the  
Spanish alphabet, though it was never represented with tighter  
kerning... I think the Real Academia might have done away with that  
one, as well as the ll, at least for purposes of alphabetizing.   
(Wikpedia: In 1994, it ruled that the Spanish consonants CH (ché)  
and LL (elle) would hence be alphabetized under C and under L,  
respectively, and not as separate, discrete letters, as in the past.)


The idea was to be able to present text to kids written with these  
combinations emphasized while retaining a somewhat natural look.


Mark,

On Sep 29, 2008, at 12:28 PM, Devin Asay wrote:



On Sep 29, 2008, at 12:34 PM, Mark Swindell wrote:

Does anyone here know if there exists a font that combines the  
letters

that make phonemes, be they digraphs, dipthongs, or just multiple
letters (oo, ee, ea)?

For example, the word cough would have three phonemic chunks: c  
- ou

- gh.

But the phonetic representations of the short o phoneme (ou) and  
the /

f/ (gh) would be squished up against each other so they would be
recognized as a chunk, not as separate letters?  Does this make  
sense?


Not exactly sure what you are after. Would an IPA font do what you  
wanted? You can get some very good ones from sil.org:


http://www.sil.org/computing/catalog/show_software_catalog.asp?by=catname=Font

HTH

Devin

Devin Asay
Humanities Technology and Research Support Center
Brigham Young University

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Re: RR in Wine

2008-10-01 Thread Peter Alcibiades

The last time I tried, a year or so ago, it wouldn't install on Wine.  It may
have got better since.  

However, 3.0 on Linux is a great improvement over 2.9, and a huge one over
2.6.1 on Linux, and I would not worry about it, just get the Linux version. 
The big UI deal is that multiple desktops now work as they are supposed to
and file dialogues are native and fonts work properly.  Printing cards has
worked properly since 2.9.   Sqlite seems to work fine.  I have not tried
the various browser functionalities yet but assume they were properly tested
before leaving the factory.

The previous big issue was with printing - not cards, but fields, with
RevPrintField and with Print Field from the file menu.  Not sure whether
these are still an issue.  They are with one Debian installation, but
whether they are specific to it, needs confirmation. 

There is an issue about plugins.  You can't get GLX2 or Quartam for Linux. 
But, you have the new editor which is a great improvement over the previous
one.  I used to use Geany as an editor, which may no longer be necessary.  
Would you get either one to work properly with Rev running under Wine? 
Wouldn't bet on it.  Generally for manipulating text in fields, either to
print or generate reports, there's a lot to be said for Awk.  Its fast,
terse, available for all platforms, comes as standard with all Linux
distributions, and you print fields from the shell by piping the output to
kprinter.

There may be an issue with fonts displaying properly.  One, you have to make
sure you're using fonts which are installed on the configuration being
compiled for.  Two, even if it does, you have to make sure they display
properly.  This is with other Linux distributions as well as with compiling
it for Windows.

It should not be too much of a wall, or too 'HARD', Linux!  Thoughts: 
Whatever anyone tells you about Ubuntu, Debian is the way to go with Linux. 
Hint:  find out how you move from Gutsy Gibbon to Hardy Heron, and then
compare it to moving from Etch to Lenny.   And whatever anyone tells you
about Gnome and HIGs, Fluxbox as a window manager/desktop environment is the
kind of thing you are going to want in the end.  A grown man can only use
for so long a plane designed primarily with the aim of preventing a ten year
old from hurting himself with it.  After a while he feels a powerful urge to
use something designed to smooth timber and be kept away from ten year olds.  

If you only buy one book about Linux, get Scott Graneman's Linux Phrasebook. 
If buying two, get Carla Schroders Cookbook also.  Good luck.


Mikey-3 wrote:
 
 My that's-no-laptop-it's-a-spacestation has gone to the next world.
 
 I'm thinking of going HARD into the Linux wall.  I see that there are
 RR issues in Linux.
 
 How well does RR run in Wine?
 
 

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