Re: strange char translation from intel to ppc
That's an interesting idea. But it was transferred as binary over ftp, so I would expect that to mean that the ftp process did no translation. I believe it is transferring as ascii over ftp where the 'return' character is translated by ftp. I can't think of any reason why an ftp program should translate the ascii chars that represent 'group separator' and 'file separator'. They have no particular meaning for Unix vs Windows (unlike the 'return' character). AFAIK the way I'm using these characters (as safe delimiters which will not occur anywhere within normal text) is precisely how they should be used. And the description of the bug I referred to (read the first test where the user displays the bug), certainly seems to make more sense. I just cross-checked, and even when it is zipped before transfer, it's the same problem. I'm not sure if one should attribute the bug to Rev or to Apple though. Bernard On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 12:21 AM, Bob Sneidar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you sure this is a Rev bug? I seem to recall from the original post that the stack was transferred over ftp or some other internet file transfer. Did you try to zip it before sending it? I know some forms of file transfers can corrupt a file when sent over the internet. It is far less prevalent than it used to be, but that is why encoding was originally used. Files were converted to internet friendly characters because internet routers were originally only designed to pass text based files. Bob Sneidar IT Manager Logos Management Calvary Chapel CM On Oct 8, 2008, at 3:39 PM, Bernard Devlin wrote: Looks like it was bugzilla'd a few years ago: http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=3681 It's a pity it doesn't work as I'd kinda come to rely on those unused ascii characters as delimiters. Bernard On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 11:32 PM, Bernard Devlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I want to refer to these non-printable characters in script I use numToChar. The place where they got changed was in actual text stored as custom properties. I'm not sure if this should be marked as a bug. I can understand if my original characters had ascii values above 127 that macToIso and isoToMac might be necessary, but not when the character values are below 127. Bernard ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[ANN] StackRunner 1.9 Is Available
Just a quick note to let you know I've updated StackRunner to use the 3.0 engine; version 1.9 is available for all platforms here: http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads/StackRunner.htm Enjoy! Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Email Client (Outlook Express) won't start after console error
After having a program error reported and then quitting the development IDE my Outlook Express won't start. I seem to remember some years ago having a similar problem and there was a registry key for Outlook which had to be reset so that it wouldn't run in invisible messaging mode. Can someone point me to this correction please. I have been searching for several days and can't find the right information. Now sure exactly what you need, but more info would be helpful: What is the console error that was reported? What version of Outlook Express/Windows OS is in play here? What do you mean by invisible messaging mode? Whatever add'l info you could provide, would help... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: strange char translation from intel to ppc
Bonjour Bernard, When you open a stack created on Win with Mac OS, the engine converts all 'texts' (scripts, objects names, etc.) using IsoToMac function (and MacToIso when it's the opposite). There is only one thing that is never converted and stays 'untouched' when switching from a platform to another: custom properties. Because custom properties may contain binaries. So I don't understand... Le 9 oct. 08 à 00:32, Bernard Devlin a écrit : When I want to refer to these non-printable characters in script I use numToChar. The place where they got changed was in actual text stored as custom properties. I'm not sure if this should be marked as a bug. I can understand if my original characters had ascii values above 127 that macToIso and isoToMac might be necessary, but not when the character values are below 127. Best regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. Plugins and tutorials for Revolution: http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sending an e-mail without a dedicated e-mail client
Hi Charles, Sarah's library does attachments. Shao Sean's library could do it too, with a little more additional scripting. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Dutch forum: http://runrev.info/rrforum/ Benefit from our inexpensive hosting services. See http://economy-x-talk.com/server.html for more info. On 9 okt 2008, at 00:51, Charles Szasz wrote: Chipp Thanks! Since I am doing attachments, your altEmailHarness sounds like just what I need. Thanks again! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: strange char translation from intel to ppc
Bonjour Eric, I think the problem may be that I'm using these characters within the keys of an array, then storing the array as a custompropertyset. Whilst these characters are not strictly alphanumeric, since they are ascii, I didn't think there would be a problem. But perhaps because they are not the content of the array, there is still an isoToMac conversion going on. And since their numerical value is below 128, I think maybe they are being mis-translated as per the bug I referenced. For about 15 years of my life there was a very good chance that whenever I drove a car it would stop working. Friends and family used to take me along when they were buying a car, and if it didn't break down whilst I did the test drive they would buy it. Then I seemed to lose this 'gift', and in the last 10 years I never had a car break down on me. I'm starting to think the planets have re-aligned themselves, and my 'gift' has returned. In the absence of a car, my 'gift' has found a new target. Bernard On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 8:50 AM, Eric Chatonet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bonjour Bernard, When you open a stack created on Win with Mac OS, the engine converts all 'texts' (scripts, objects names, etc.) using IsoToMac function (and MacToIso when it's the opposite). There is only one thing that is never converted and stays 'untouched' when switching from a platform to another: custom properties. Because custom properties may contain binaries. So I don't understand... Best regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. Plugins and tutorials for Revolution: http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: problems building a rev-valentina standalone on mac
Hi all, after getting to the bottom of this problem with Ruslan, it seems to be that I am the only one who has his IDE on Win XP and wants to deploy a Rev-Valentina app on Mac (I have just a studio licence for Win!). Hopefully I am actually not the only one and someone can point me to the fault. The thing is, that The Rev standalone builder on Win doesn't care about the relevant Valentina files at all and just doesn't create anything for Mac (what is mentioned nowhere). Now I am trying to copy manually the needed files and folders and bundles from Mac into my Standalone bundle on Win, but I am failing with every constellation, probably because I have a massive lack of knowledge of the secrets of Mac bundle structures. What Ruslan told me to do is the following: 1. copy v4rev.bundle from Mac into the Standalone folder ...\MacOS\Externals\ on Win 2. copy dbvalentina2 from Mac into the Stanalone folder ...\MacOS\Externals\database_drivers\ on Win After transferring the Mac Standalone from Win to Mac and running the special Valentina deployment script on the Mac I looked into the package information of my app and I am wondering why there is a difference between the v4rev.bundle and dbvalentina2 folder in my package. It shows (beside of other non Valentina files): Contents\MacOS\Externals\v4rev.bundle Contents\MacOS\Externals\database_drivers\dbvalentina2\Contents\MacOS\dbVale ntina2 I don't know if this structure is correct Ruslan either and my Mac standalone still doesn't finds Valentina. What I don't understand is both folders v4rev.bundle and dbvalentina2 look in its structure the same on Win (with Contents, MacOS, Resources,...), but after transferring to the Mac the v4rev.bundle has no further content and has a shield symbol but the dbvalentina2 folder has a deeper structure (see above) and has a folder symbol. I don't know, if both folders are bundles and what is the difference between a bundle and a folder and why their structure looks completely different after importing on the Mac. Is it just the name of the folder .bundle? could this be the mistake that dbvalentina2 should be dbvalentina2.bundle? Anybody out there using Valentina on Win? Tiemo Hello, I just switched from SQLite to Valentina and got it to run so far and fast in my Win XP DIE, but now I am struggeling with building the Mac standalone. I followed all Valentina docs, with running the deployment script etc, what seems to work fine, but my standalone on Mac doesn't find Valentina. At least VDatabase_Constructor() returns empty, without any error message. Ruslan told me that I have to get the v4rev.bundle in my app externals folder, but there isn't this bundle and I don't know how to get such a bundle in my app bundle. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: more rev 3.0 woes - losing the will to live
But here's what I'm seeing with some stacks: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ ls *.rev perf-test-leg.rev test-legacy.rev [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ more test-legacy.rev #!/bin/sh # MetaCard 2.4 stack # The following is not ASCII text, # so now would be a good time to q out of more^L [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ more test-legacy.rev REV 3.0 was quit just before this point REVO2700?revNavigator 1 ?R??global gScriptBuddyIDarray,gScriptBuddyLineArray,gSB UpdateSelection,gSBLeadSpaces An escape route could have been to make a copy of the stack file (in linux) while it was proven to be in the old format, that is before quiting Rev. Robert ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AW: problems building a rev-valentina standalone on mac
On 10/9/08 2:01 PM, Tiemo Hollmann TB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Tiemo, I don't know if this structure is correct Ruslan either and my Mac standalone still doesn't finds Valentina. What I don't understand is both folders v4rev.bundle and dbvalentina2 look in its structure the same on Win (with Contents, MacOS, Resources,...), but after transferring to the Mac the v4rev.bundle has no further content and has a shield symbol but the dbvalentina2 folder has a deeper structure (see above) and has a folder symbol. I don't know, if both folders are bundles and what is the difference between a bundle and a folder and why their structure looks completely different after importing on the Mac. Is it just the name of the folder .bundle? could this be the mistake that dbvalentina2 should be dbvalentina2.bundle? Anybody out there using Valentina on Win? Main point is We need copy MAC's files: V4REV.bundle and dbvalentina2 Not AFTER you have build Standalone. No. You need copy them on your Windows computer from MAC And place into Runtime/MAC OS X folder, So REV IDE will use them self during building of APP. --- Next point keep in mind is: Starting from REV 2.7, they have split in two parts A) REV engine area = Runtime folder. We should not touch it B) third party externals area = My Documents folder. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Totally OT - I need some heads up (and a hug or two)
Malte, what a horrible thng to happen. Without going into boring details, I had a roughly similar thing happen to a music project about 7 years ago. All I can really say is that once you've got over the shock, you'll do what everyone does after such a loss - start again and rebuild. And, as one wise friend said in response to my anger at the thieves, be glad you're you and not them. Best wishes, Mark On 9 Oct 2008, at 10:51, Malte Brill wrote: Hi all, today is the worst day in my self employment life. I arrived at the office today, just to learn that everything apple branded is gone. Stolen. Away. Not only that, but my external backup HD also vanished and a few things I was pretty fond of, like a keyboard (music) and a microphone. I do not care too much about the machines. Those are replacable. But I lost at least 3 months worth of data. I had something cool coming up, but I am afraid I am thrown back to point zero, at least with the documentation. The people I have been talking off list will know what I mean. So everyone who is involved with that project, I beg your patience, as I really need to start freshly on it. And just now I can't. I just feel like sitting in the corner and weeping. So if any of you has any urgent support queries for AE or other stuff I beg your patience. It might be a day or two until I recover. All the best, Malte ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sending an e-mail without a dedicated e-mail client
For those you want to send email but are worried about using their own ISPs SMTP server, or getting their messages flagged as spam, it's worth pointing out that there are several services out there for cheap SMTP. A primary perk of using a well-established service like this is that they go to the trouble of getting white-listed at many of the major ISPs. On a recent project, I couldn't get a darn thing past Yahoo! spam filters. Switched to AuthSMTP for a few bucks and now all of my (legitimate confirmation) emails get through. If you're sending email to customers, I personally think it's well worth it. AuthSMTP costs $24 per year to send 1,000 emails a month. I wasted way more than $24 worth of time fighting spam filters that just laid down as soon as I just used this. Marketing will tell you that's 500 emails per dollar. http://authsmtp.com/auth-smtp/pricing.html NOTE: I have no special connection to AuthSMTP. There are other services out there, some actually much cheaper. I just read some good reviews, and so far it has worked well for me... and for a whopping $24 I was willing to not mess with cheaper (but possibly less reliable) services. HTH, Brian Hi Charles, Sarah's library does attachments. Shao Sean's library could do it too, with a little more additional scripting. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Dutch forum: http://runrev.info/rrforum/ Benefit from our inexpensive hosting services. See http://economy-x-talk.com/server.html for more info. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Totally OT - I need some heads up (and a hug or two)
Dear Malte, Le 9 oct. 08 à 11:51, Malte Brill a écrit : today is the worst day in my self employment life I'm very sad for you. It's a violation and I hope you don't you don't feel too desperate. So let's focus on possible solutions: The really secure one is to 'delocalize' and have a backup on the web: MobileMe or another similar service. Best regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. Plugins and tutorials for Revolution: http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: Totally OT - I need some heads up (and a hug or two)
Hi Malte, thats really the worst scenario for your business I can think of. After I heard of a similar situation some time ago I got really paranoiac about such a scenario and improved my backup strategy. Hoping you get up again soon! All the best Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:use-revolution- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Malte Brill Gesendet: Donnerstag, 9. Oktober 2008 11:52 An: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Betreff: Totally OT - I need some heads up (and a hug or two) Hi all, today is the worst day in my self employment life. I arrived at the office today, just to learn that everything apple branded is gone. Stolen. Away. Not only that, but my external backup HD also vanished and a few things I was pretty fond of, like a keyboard (music) and a microphone. I do not care too much about the machines. Those are replacable. But I lost at least 3 months worth of data. I had something cool coming up, but I am afraid I am thrown back to point zero, at least with the documentation. The people I have been talking off list will know what I mean. So everyone who is involved with that project, I beg your patience, as I really need to start freshly on it. And just now I can't. I just feel like sitting in the corner and weeping. So if any of you has any urgent support queries for AE or other stuff I beg your patience. It might be a day or two until I recover. All the best, Malte ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: strange char translation from intel to ppc
Thanks guys for the suggested workarounds. I might just send Mark a stack which would show the problem - he seems to have an insatiable desire to hunt down bugs and squash them. I already mentioned to him in passing some of my scripting practices and I think he barely contained his horror. This current practice no doubt confirms his belief that I am beyond redemption. Bernard ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Totally OT - I need some heads up (and a hug or two)
Also my sincere regrets. I have done this to myself by formatting the wrong drive that had my source repository by mistake and not having a backup. I still have the executable on my website but I cannot support/enhance it because its gone. I always read in programming books that you almost always need to solve the programming once before you really know how to solve it so maybe revision 2 will be a better effort than the original (although thats laughing thru the tears). My godsend solution is Sugarsync. They give you 10 gb of free storage and their client runs in the background on both windows and os x machines (I use both in both laptop and desktop scenarios). It allows you to create a magic briefcase on your computer that is automatically synced with all computers as well as access other directories directly from their website. I upgraded to the 30gb plan which is very reasonable and more than covers my project directories. It also provides some version control capabilities but nothing like SVN/CVS/Git which I find more trouble than worth at my location. Again my deepest sympathies and know tomorrow will be a better day! Neal -- Neal Campbell Abroham Neal Software Programming Services for Windows, OS X and Linux (540) 242 0911 - Try Spot for OS X, the intelligent DXCluster Client at www.abrohamnealsoftware.com - $15.99 - For a great dog book, visit www.abrohamneal.com - See the FlexRadio Systems Flex-5000a in action at www.flex-videos.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Totally OT - I need some heads up (and a hug or two)
Malte, What a horrible thing! I thought this happened only here in Brazil. There's not much I can say, similar thing happened once to me and someone said to me: now you can do it even better. The felling of loss and frustration at lost labor is terrible. If there's anything I can do to help, just email me. We know you'll get thru this! And also AE rocks! Andre On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 6:51 AM, Malte Brill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, today is the worst day in my self employment life. I arrived at the office today, just to learn that everything apple branded is gone. Stolen. Away. Not only that, but my external backup HD also vanished and a few things I was pretty fond of, like a keyboard (music) and a microphone. I do not care too much about the machines. Those are replacable. But I lost at least 3 months worth of data. I had something cool coming up, but I am afraid I am thrown back to point zero, at least with the documentation. The people I have been talking off list will know what I mean. So everyone who is involved with that project, I beg your patience, as I really need to start freshly on it. And just now I can't. I just feel like sitting in the corner and weeping. So if any of you has any urgent support queries for AE or other stuff I beg your patience. It might be a day or two until I recover. All the best, Malte ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: alternatelanguages ... persistent objects from createObject
But: Could it be possible out of runrev (any idea) to have 2 alternatelanguagescripts runword1.vbs and writeagaininword2.vbs where the second just uses the word object opened by the first. = Can I use a COM-object again by any trick? The first script could perhaps give back an objectID in the result variable to runrev, but how could I reconnect the writeagaininword2.vbs to this existing object (if the first script did not close it)? Just curious - why would you need to do this instead of just creating a new object? The reason I ask is that you can successfully link to currently open instances of applications (I'm thinking MS Office primarily) to manipulate them from multiple independent scripts. That is, you can use VBS with createObject to launch an instance of Excel, say, and get a sheet started, and then later use another VBS with createObject to add data to the same worksheet in Excel. Of course it would be the best runrev could use COM directly ... how about a createObject command in 3.1 ;-) That would be nice! :-) What can I do with the XML alternatelanguage on windows? Sorry, haven't done anything with that... maybe someone else can chime in... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Totally OT - I need some heads up (and a hug or two)
Malte, I can totally relate to this. And all I can tell you is It sucks! That said, time will pass and the feeling of being violated will start to go away. I feel for what you are going through. I found for me that using the readjustment time to reorganize my life and since I was 'starting over' to make things better than they had been before. Before some of the things I had were put together piece meal as time went on but this time around instead I planned it all out and optimized my entire system and work flow and practices. Also, it's time to look at Time Machine/Airport in a locked box or hidden in a closet for your most important asset which is your backups. Having my most recent work backed up in a safe place gives me a great piece of mind. Then also once a month consider an offsite backup as well. DVDs are good for this since the offsite stuff is not really meant for long term solutions but rather as a backup to the backup. Anyway, Know that we all have you back and if you need anything at all let us know. Your list friend, Tom McGrath III On Oct 9, 2008, at 5:51 AM, Malte Brill wrote: Hi all, today is the worst day in my self employment life. I arrived at the office today, just to learn that everything apple branded is gone. Stolen. Away. Not only that, but my external backup HD also vanished and a few things I was pretty fond of, like a keyboard (music) and a microphone. I do not care too much about the machines. Those are replacable. But I lost at least 3 months worth of data. I had something cool coming up, but I am afraid I am thrown back to point zero, at least with the documentation. The people I have been talking off list will know what I mean. So everyone who is involved with that project, I beg your patience, as I really need to start freshly on it. And just now I can't. I just feel like sitting in the corner and weeping. So if any of you has any urgent support queries for AE or other stuff I beg your patience. It might be a day or two until I recover. All the best, Malte ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Totally OT - I need some heads up (and a hug or two)
What a horrible thing! I thought this happened only here in Brazil. There's not much I can say, similar thing happened once to me and someone said to me: now you can do it even better. The felling of loss and frustration at lost labor is terrible. If there's anything I can do to help, just email me. I second that, Malte... and I'm sure there are others too who are wanting to help in any way possible. Just let us know! I'm only glad that you only lost 3 months of data and not more than that (although I know that 3 months of development is a lot to redo). And thanks, Neal, for the tip about SugarSync... I've been thinking about offsite/online backup, and it looks like a good option. Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Why I didn't, and why I may, later.
err... does 10.5 runs on PPC? I thought ppc was limited to 10.4... :-O On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 1:25 AM, Judy Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not as if Apple didn't give didn't give people HOW many years warning that PPC compatibility was going to be phased out! Judy On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 3:04 AM, Richmond Mathewson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Probably why quite a lot of people with PPC Macs feel cheesed-off about being excluded from 10.6. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: strange char translation from intel to ppc
Hi Bernard, Since those characters 29 and 30 are lower ASCII, there shouldn't be any encoding problems. Do you want to send me a very simple, very small stack that shows the same problem? For whatever it is worth, put numtochar(30) is mactoiso(numtochar(30)) returns true. I do indeed wonder whether non-alphanumerics can be used for keys of arrays. I haven't looked this up, though. It seems to take more than a few clicks to find this information. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Dutch forum: http://runrev.info/rrforum/ Benefit from our inexpensive hosting services. See http://economy-x-talk.com/server.html for more info. On 9 okt 2008, at 10:45, Bernard Devlin wrote: Bonjour Eric, I think the problem may be that I'm using these characters within the keys of an array, then storing the array as a custompropertyset. Whilst these characters are not strictly alphanumeric, since they are ascii, I didn't think there would be a problem. But perhaps because they are not the content of the array, there is still an isoToMac conversion going on. And since their numerical value is below 128, I think maybe they are being mis-translated as per the bug I referenced. snip Bernard ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: strange char translation from intel to ppc
Sorry Mark, it will have to wait. I went back to use Rev 3.0 on Vista (since I thought that was crashing less than on Linux so I might be able to do this simple task before it crashed). I created a new stack, copied over the custom property, checked the cp was there, closed the property inspector, and Rev crashed. I hadn't saved the damn stack. If anyone doesn't believe me, just ask, and I'll submit the useless crash log to RQCC. I'm too angry with Rev 3.0 to ever switch it on again in Windows or Linux. Thank god I got my powerbook repaired. Using that I was just starting to regain some composure and had stopped hating Rev. When I'm feeling calmer I will try to make the demo stack using 2.8.1 on Windows. That was a far more reliable version for me. Bernard On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Bernard Devlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks guys for the suggested workarounds. I might just send Mark a stack which would show the problem - he seems to have an insatiable desire to hunt down bugs and squash them. I already mentioned to him in passing some of my scripting practices and I think he barely contained his horror. This current practice no doubt confirms his belief that I am beyond redemption. Bernard ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Why I didn't, and why I may, later.
Yes it runs on PPC, I think Snowbunny will not however. Neal k3nc On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Andre Garzia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: err... does 10.5 runs on PPC? I thought ppc was limited to 10.4... :-O On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 1:25 AM, Judy Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not as if Apple didn't give didn't give people HOW many years warning that PPC compatibility was going to be phased out! Judy On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 3:04 AM, Richmond Mathewson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Probably why quite a lot of people with PPC Macs feel cheesed-off about being excluded from 10.6. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Neal Campbell Abroham Neal Software Programming Services for Windows, OS X and Linux (540) 242 0911 - Try Spot for OS X, the intelligent DXCluster Client at www.abrohamnealsoftware.com - $15.99 - For a great dog book, visit www.abrohamneal.com - See the FlexRadio Systems Flex-5000a in action at www.flex-videos.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Totally OT - I need some heads up (and a hug or two)
Hi Malte, Sorry to hear about the criminal activity. The world is going through some hard changes so we all need to be careful and your message is a good warning to those who haven't experienced the dark side of humanity yet. If I told you what has been happening to me you would understand things can be worse. Don't give up and remember how quickly things can change for the better no matter how bad things are going. I am encouraged with your projects and hope to see them soon. -=JB=- On Oct 9, 2008, at 2:51 AM, Malte Brill wrote: Hi all, today is the worst day in my self employment life. I arrived at the office today, just to learn that everything apple branded is gone. Stolen. Away. Not only that, but my external backup HD also vanished and a few things I was pretty fond of, like a keyboard (music) and a microphone. I do not care too much about the machines. Those are replacable. But I lost at least 3 months worth of data. I had something cool coming up, but I am afraid I am thrown back to point zero, at least with the documentation. The people I have been talking off list will know what I mean. So everyone who is involved with that project, I beg your patience, as I really need to start freshly on it. And just now I can't. I just feel like sitting in the corner and weeping. So if any of you has any urgent support queries for AE or other stuff I beg your patience. It might be a day or two until I recover. All the best, Malte ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
alternatelanguages ... persistent objects from createObject
Hello, Using alternatelanguages allows these (like VBS, Javascript) to interact with windows COM objects (using the createObject Syntax f.e. for opening word or excel and write sth there, save it and close). As I asked some weeks ago - how could I reuse such an object later? One answer in the list (I do not find the posting in the moment, sorry for making no credits) was really good: I can use a global variable result in the alternatelanguage as an global variable bridge: f.e. from vbs to runrev. This indeed works. But: Could it be possible out of runrev (any idea) to have 2 alternatelanguagescripts runword1.vbs and writeagaininword2.vbs where the second just uses the word object opened by the first. = Can I use a COM-object again by any trick? The first script could perhaps give back an objectID in the result variable to runrev, but how could I reconnect the writeagaininword2.vbs to this existing object (if the first script did not close it)? Of course it would be the best runrev could use COM directly ... how about a createObject command in 3.1 ;-) Regards, Franz Böhmisch A second question: What can I do with the XML alternatelanguage on windows? After put the alternatelanguages on one pc I get XML VBScript VBScript.Encode JScript JScript.Encode PerlScript SignedJavaScript SignedVBScript ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: AW: problems building a rev-valentina standalone on mac
Hi Ruslan, sorry, I really feel stupid, but the standalone builder on my Win XP doesn't takes the valentina bundels into the standalone. What I did is, I copied the v4rev.bundle and database_drivers\dbvalentina2 folder (which I took from the Mac) into: C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Tiemo.KESTNER\Eigene Dateien\My Revolution Studio\Runtime\Mac OS X\Universal\ (as well as in: ...\Mac OS X\PowerPC-32\ and ... \Mac OS X\x86-32\) The Externals.txt in: C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Tiemo.KESTNER\Eigene Dateien\My Revolution Studio\Externals\ shows one line with Valentina2,v4rev.dll And the Database drivers.txt in: C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Tiemo.KESTNER\Eigene Dateien\My Revolution Studio\Externals\Database Drivers\ shows one line with Valentina2,dbvalentina2.dll I have checked the Valentina2 script library in the standalone settings. But after building the Mac standalone there are no valentina bundles in the standalone. What else to do? Or are we again at the wrong location? Thanks Tiemo Main point is We need copy MAC's files: V4REV.bundle and dbvalentina2 Not AFTER you have build Standalone. No. You need copy them on your Windows computer from MAC And place into Runtime/MAC OS X folder, So REV IDE will use them self during building of APP. --- Next point keep in mind is: Starting from REV 2.7, they have split in two parts A) REV engine area = Runtime folder. We should not touch it B) third party externals area = My Documents folder. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: strange char translation from intel to ppc
Hi Bernard, ISOtoMac changes characters you wouldn't expect. There are historic reasons for this. The answer is to NEVER use the function on blocks of text containing custom delimiters, but only use it on the user readable text fragments - i.e. convert each field individually. A pain, yes, but then you won't have the problem. Martin Baxter P.S. I have looked into these functions in detail and would add the following: 1) They are badly named. They translate between windows-1252 and Mac Roman. 2) They are not the inverse of each other. 3) They are designed to convert the user readable characters, some of which, historically, were stored in what are properly control character code positions. Hence the effect you see. Bernard Devlin wrote: I have a stack where I use some non-printable ascii chars as delimiters (specifically, ascii 30 and 29). This stack worked fine on the Windows and Linux versions of 3.0 (well, until they crashed or went berserk, but everyone's tired of that story). However, when I moved the stack over to OS X (ppc), the application stopped working. Upon investigation it turned out that the delimiters had swapped - they were now ascii 222 and 218. Is that to be expected? Nothing else in the stacks seems amiss, and I'm puzzled by this. I had seen some strange behaviour copying them between platforms. When copied by scp, the stacks were corrupted, but copied fine by ftp binary. When copied by ftp as ascii, opening them crashed Rev 3.0 on OS X. It's not a big deal, but I suppose it might be a gotcha worth noting for anyone else who uses non-printable ascii chars as delimiters. Bernard -- I am Not a Number, I am a free NaN ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: strange char translation from intel to ppc
Bernard, If your theory holds true (and it sounds plausible - that custom property names are subject to translation but not the property contents), one possible workaround would be to base64Encode() your array keys. It's not terribly elegant, but any base64 encoded key value should survive the translation and then you can decode it again yourself. Something like: ## encode myArray into encodedArray repeat for each line tKey in keys(myArray) put myArray[tKey] into encodedArray[base64Encode(tKey)] end repeat .. ## decode encodedArray into myArray repeat for each line tKey in keys(encodedArray) put encodedArray[tKey] into myArray[base64Decode(tKey)] end repeat NOTE: base64Encode will increase the size of your keys, as it will for example need 4 bytes to encode 3 bytes. Hopefully you don't have huge keys where this would be a big issue. Bonjour Eric, I think the problem may be that I'm using these characters within the keys of an array, then storing the array as a custompropertyset. Whilst these characters are not strictly alphanumeric, since they are ascii, I didn't think there would be a problem. But perhaps because they are not the content of the array, there is still an isoToMac conversion going on. And since their numerical value is below 128, I think maybe they are being mis-translated as per the bug I referenced. For about 15 years of my life there was a very good chance that whenever I drove a car it would stop working. Friends and family used to take me along when they were buying a car, and if it didn't break down whilst I did the test drive they would buy it. Then I seemed to lose this 'gift', and in the last 10 years I never had a car break down on me. I'm starting to think the planets have re-aligned themselves, and my 'gift' has returned. In the absence of a car, my 'gift' has found a new target. Bernard ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Totally OT - I need some heads up (and a hug or two)
Damn! I wish you all the best Malte. Indeed, I hope people will bear with you and be patient. Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 9-okt-2008, om 11:51 heeft Malte Brill het volgende geschreven: Hi all, today is the worst day in my self employment life. I arrived at the office today, just to learn that everything apple branded is gone. Stolen. Away. Not only that, but my external backup HD also vanished and a few things I was pretty fond of, like a keyboard (music) and a microphone. I do not care too much about the machines. Those are replacable. But I lost at least 3 months worth of data. I had something cool coming up, but I am afraid I am thrown back to point zero, at least with the documentation. The people I have been talking off list will know what I mean. So everyone who is involved with that project, I beg your patience, as I really need to start freshly on it. And just now I can't. I just feel like sitting in the corner and weeping. So if any of you has any urgent support queries for AE or other stuff I beg your patience. It might be a day or two until I recover. All the best, Malte ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Totally OT - I need some heads up (and a hug or two)
Hi all, today is the worst day in my self employment life. I arrived at the office today, just to learn that everything apple branded is gone. Stolen. Away. Not only that, but my external backup HD also vanished and a few things I was pretty fond of, like a keyboard (music) and a microphone. I do not care too much about the machines. Those are replacable. But I lost at least 3 months worth of data. I had something cool coming up, but I am afraid I am thrown back to point zero, at least with the documentation. The people I have been talking off list will know what I mean. So everyone who is involved with that project, I beg your patience, as I really need to start freshly on it. And just now I can't. I just feel like sitting in the corner and weeping. So if any of you has any urgent support queries for AE or other stuff I beg your patience. It might be a day or two until I recover. All the best, Malte ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Why I didn't, and why I may, later.
I cannot believe I just called SnowLeopard Snowbunny (but I might copyright the name for future usage!!) Neal Campbell www.abrohamnealsoftware.com AIM:nealk3nc On Oct 9, 2008, at 10:49 AM, Neal Campbell wrote: Yes it runs on PPC, I think Snowbunny will not however. Neal k3nc On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Andre Garzia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: err... does 10.5 runs on PPC? I thought ppc was limited to 10.4... :-O On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 1:25 AM, Judy Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not as if Apple didn't give didn't give people HOW many years warning that PPC compatibility was going to be phased out! Judy On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 3:04 AM, Richmond Mathewson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Probably why quite a lot of people with PPC Macs feel cheesed-off about being excluded from 10.6. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Neal Campbell Abroham Neal Software Programming Services for Windows, OS X and Linux (540) 242 0911 - Try Spot for OS X, the intelligent DXCluster Client at www.abrohamnealsoftware.com - $15.99 - For a great dog book, visit www.abrohamneal.com - See the FlexRadio Systems Flex-5000a in action at www.flex-videos.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Why I didn't, and why I may, later.
Snowbunny. I think we learned from Monty Python that rabbits can be quite formidable--a known requirement for an OS X code name. Therefore, I, for one, would wholeheartedly endorse Snowbunny as the code name for the code name for the upcoming new version of OS X. Best, Jerry Daniels Daniels Mara, Inc. Makers of GLX2 http://www.glx2.com On Oct 9, 2008, at 10:27 AM, Neal Campbell K3NC wrote: I cannot believe I just called SnowLeopard Snowbunny (but I might copyright the name for future usage!!) Neal Campbell www.abrohamnealsoftware.com AIM:nealk3nc On Oct 9, 2008, at 10:49 AM, Neal Campbell wrote: Yes it runs on PPC, I think Snowbunny will not however. Neal k3nc On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Andre Garzia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: err... does 10.5 runs on PPC? I thought ppc was limited to 10.4... :-O On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 1:25 AM, Judy Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not as if Apple didn't give didn't give people HOW many years warning that PPC compatibility was going to be phased out! Judy On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 3:04 AM, Richmond Mathewson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Probably why quite a lot of people with PPC Macs feel cheesed- off about being excluded from 10.6. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Neal Campbell Abroham Neal Software Programming Services for Windows, OS X and Linux (540) 242 0911 - Try Spot for OS X, the intelligent DXCluster Client at www.abrohamnealsoftware.com - $15.99 - For a great dog book, visit www.abrohamneal.com - See the FlexRadio Systems Flex-5000a in action at www.flex-videos.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Why I didn't, and why I may, later.
I will license it for the next GLX application for free if you want to use it! What a marketing coup! Neal On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Jerry Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Snowbunny. I think we learned from Monty Python that rabbits can be quite formidable--a known requirement for an OS X code name. Therefore, I, for one, would wholeheartedly endorse Snowbunny as the code name for the code name for the upcoming new version of OS X. Best, Jerry Daniels Daniels Mara, Inc. Makers of GLX2 http://www.glx2.com On Oct 9, 2008, at 10:27 AM, Neal Campbell K3NC wrote: I cannot believe I just called SnowLeopard Snowbunny (but I might copyright the name for future usage!!) Neal Campbell www.abrohamnealsoftware.com AIM:nealk3nc On Oct 9, 2008, at 10:49 AM, Neal Campbell wrote: Yes it runs on PPC, I think Snowbunny will not however. Neal k3nc On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Andre Garzia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: err... does 10.5 runs on PPC? I thought ppc was limited to 10.4... :-O On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 1:25 AM, Judy Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not as if Apple didn't give didn't give people HOW many years warning that PPC compatibility was going to be phased out! Judy On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 3:04 AM, Richmond Mathewson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Probably why quite a lot of people with PPC Macs feel cheesed-off about being excluded from 10.6. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Neal Campbell Abroham Neal Software Programming Services for Windows, OS X and Linux (540) 242 0911 - Try Spot for OS X, the intelligent DXCluster Client at www.abrohamnealsoftware.com - $15.99 - For a great dog book, visit www.abrohamneal.com - See the FlexRadio Systems Flex-5000a in action at www.flex-videos.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Neal Campbell Abroham Neal Software Programming Services for Windows, OS X and Linux (540) 242 0911 - Try Spot for OS X, the intelligent DXCluster Client at www.abrohamnealsoftware.com - $15.99 - For a great dog book, visit www.abrohamneal.com - See the FlexRadio Systems Flex-5000a in action at www.flex-videos.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: more rev 3.0 woes - losing the will to live
That was actually suggested by Mark (I think). But in the end I used Ken Ray's workaround from bugzilla. Thanks for the suggestion though. Some very kind and helpful people on this list. Bernard On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Robert Brenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But here's what I'm seeing with some stacks: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ ls *.rev perf-test-leg.rev test-legacy.rev [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ more test-legacy.rev #!/bin/sh # MetaCard 2.4 stack # The following is not ASCII text, # so now would be a good time to q out of more^L [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ more test-legacy.rev REV 3.0 was quit just before this point REVO2700 ?revNavigator 1 ?R??global gScriptBuddyIDarray,gScriptBuddyLineArray,gSB UpdateSelection,gSBLeadSpaces An escape route could have been to make a copy of the stack file (in linux) while it was proven to be in the old format, that is before quiting Rev. Robert ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Totally OT - I need some heads up (and a hug or two)
Hey Malte, Here's a hug from San Francisco.. Very sorry for your machine and data loss. I live in fear of such a scenario.. I am so paranoid about losing stuff.. 1) work from home, and I'm always here (hermit?) 2) Time machine is always running, 2nd 500g drive in the G5 3) Bootable backups of main machine using Foldersynchronizer every week -- my projects are completely contained in a MacOSX .app package, 'splash screen' --and I work on the stacks in situ ; in place. 4) I use Touch every day on the .app package 5) Project .app package with all scripts and resources uploaded to local server every day 6) I have a handler in my development sandbox that tars, then zips the .app package, then uploads to a directory at dreamhost. I call this every day. Still, with all of this, I've had panic moments, losing a stack I worked on all day that didn't have it's own file, somehow got detached and lost in space (substacks... not anymore). I looked everywhere for quite a while until I found a stack that I had forgotten I had saved. sqb Hi all, today is the worst day in my self employment life. I arrived at the office today, just to learn that everything apple branded is gone. Stolen. Away. Malte -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Totally OT - I need some heads up (and a hug or two)
Malte: Very sorry to hear about your loss. I am sure you are disheartened, but the Revolution community needs your stuff, so please continue. Perhaps get away from work and take a couple of days to recover. Just a couple of thoughts: maybe you gave some of your development work to a friend or colleague to review/test? If so, you might be able to retrieve some small portion of your of work there. Also, I've seen several stories about tracking down stolen machines through their access of the Internet -- somehow discovering the address. Perhaps there is some option there for you. Finally, following the backup suggestions from several other developers, there is Jungle Disk (jungledisk.com). For all platforms, this service uses Amazon S3 for amazingly cheap storage: a US$20 one time cost for the desktop software, and beginning Nov 1 storage costs of US$0.15 (15 cents) per TB (yes, terrabyte). You also pay a few cents for transfer costs, but the amount is also minimal. I have many GBs stored there and pay one dollar a month (EU pricing is comparable). Again, best wishes to you. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Why I didn't, and why I may, later.
Judy Perry wrote: It's not as if Apple didn't give didn't give people HOW many years warning that PPC compatibility was going to be phased out! 1. Not that long really. 2. Apple did not tell PPC users they would be left with an OS that still contained all sorts of glitches and a rather messy, inconsistent GUI. I am absolutely sure that Apple could, should they so wish, belt out a PPC version of 10.6 that was as light for PPCs as they claim Snow Leopard will be for INTEL Macs. But they won't because they want people to dump their PPCs and buy INTEL machines. This is, of course, based on the supposition that every Mac user has the money and the inclination to buy a new Mac every 2 years. With an INTEL Mac, I haven't, and I probably won't, prefering either to buy a relatively cheap PC (or bash one together out of bits and pieces) and run either a Linux distro or (Heaven forfend) Hackintosh; especially after reading recently about smelly machines. However, fingers crossed, step on my toe, etc. my collection of PPC Macs are all doing sterling service right now; come to think of it my macMini PPC is only 3 years old! I have downloaded RunRev 3 and am currently playing with it; I certainly would rather buy RR 3 than buy a new Mac as: a. it functions perfectly adequately on my G3 iMac. b. it can produce software for several Operating Systems (but not RISC !!!). c. £ for £ it gives, me at least, more bang for your buck than a new computer. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson. A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[OT] Clickjacking
Maybe this is only semi-OT, since RunRev has announced plans to deliver a browser plugin: Web Surfers Face Dangerous New Threat: 'Clickjacking' Internet and Web browser security experts are sounding the alarm about a new type of malicious attack called clickjacking, a technique that can be used to dupe Web surfers into revealing confidential information while clicking on seemingly innocuous Web pages. Among other things, a clickjacking attack can be used to take control of a computer's Webcam and microphone without the knowledge of the user. Clickjacking has been identified as a vulnerability for the Adobe Flash player, as well as for every major browser, including Firefox, Internet Explorer, Opera, Safari and even the newly released Google Chrome. It is a very serious problem, said Giorgio Maone, the author of a widely praised free Firefox extension called NoScript, which blocks potentially malicious scripts from running in the Firefox browser. Clickjacking is a very simple attack to build, and now that the details are out, any script kid can try it successfully, Maone warned. There's no estimate to the number of trap sites, and it's unlikely that we will see any credible report about the number of sites using this technique, because there are literally infinite ways to implement such an attack, therefore no signature-based scanning can detect it automatically. ... Maone agreed. This problem comes from features which are integral to the modern Web as we know it, he said, and especially from the ability of Web pages to embed arbitrary content from different sites, or to host little applications (applets) through plug-ins like Adobe Flash, Java or Microsoft Silverlight. Maone predicted that a general browser fix won't be developed any time soon, since the real solution lies in developing a general consensus about changing existing Web standards in the various Internet standardization groups. http://news.yahoo.com/s/nf/20081008/bs_nf/62355;_ylt=Ava5rXFNBgPvZAdxN.QA2jOs0NUE Adobe's remedy is available here: http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager02.html There are several implication with this: 1. People will become more wary of plugins The risks of running compiled code within a browser will at last be given appropriate attention. When running compiled code, even as a plugin, the code can make use of any API the OS provides, and there's no way to know what it's doing. This is not new, but most lay people have been lulled into a false sense of security under the misconception that if it runs in a browser it's somehow restricted to the browser's sandbox. This news corrects that misconception. 2. Plugin vendors will have to work harder to gain confidence Deploying new web plugins has always been difficult in a world where Flash is pre-installed, but these perceptual challenges will increase given #1 above, requiring extra effort from the vendor to convince an audience of the soundness of a plugin. With this exploit occurring in the most popular plugin of all, we can expect the perceptual challenges to effect new (in the minds of users and IT staffers, read untested) plugins even more strongly. 3. Plugin APIs may become more onerous, and therefore expensive This is pure conjecture on my part, but to the degree that #1 has any traction we may find browser vendors responding by attempting to provide safeguards within their APIs to try to minimize such risks. It's hard to say what they might come up with, but it seems unlikely they'll continue to keep the plugin API as a sort of open-ended wild west of possibilities, perhaps using Java's restrictions as a model. Such restrictions, however necessary to regain user trust, may limit capabilities and/or increase the development challenges of making plugins. I don't mean to rain on the plugin parade, but I do feel it's useful to maintain a sober awareness of how the market may respond to this exposure. Those anticipating plugin deployment within their own organizations will likely see little difference in its acceptability. But those planning public sites driven by a plugin for a more general audience may do well to be prepared to address security concerns. -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Why I didn't, and why I may, later.
I just want to chime in on this a bit. In the past, one of the reasons cited for Windows continued stability problems was their apparent need to maintain backward compatibility with hardware and older software. It seems that their huge market share turned out to be somewhat of an achilles heel to future development. Now in this day and age everyone wants faster, bigger, more powerful. Ok. Fair enough. But is it fair to then demand compatibility for new operating systems with older hardware technologies? I don't think so. You can't have your cake and eat it to. I for one would be dismayed if Apple chose to stifle innovation and progress in favor of backward compatibility. It would kill the company IMHO. People buy Apple products because they want and sometimes even NEED the latest greatest technology. And let's not forget that Apple has a GREAT track record for longevity. My father has purchased at least 3 new PC's in the last 6 years, because each time he wants to upgrade, his PC doesn't have the performance, or memory, or hard drive etc. to support the latest Windows OS. I still have my powerbook from a long time ago, and although I am using the company's Intel Macbook Pro, that old Powerbook is still a very viable platform. And let's be honest here. The older machines are STILL running and any software you buy today STILL run on it, and it isn't even painful! Just because you cannot have the latest greatest OS on a 3 year old machine does not mean you bury it in the ground and build a funeral pyre over it. Bob Sneidar IT Manager Logos Management Calvary Chapel CM ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Clickjacking
If you didn't know, this was announced a week or so ago, which is good news, because it means that NoScript has once again come to the rescue. If you don't know what that is, then you probably aren't using FireFox. NoScript is an extremely important extension for FireFox that will prevent just about every known scripting vulnerability in HTML, DHTML, XHTML, Java, JavaScript, etc. NoScript is not available for any of the other browsers, regardless of platform. NoScript works on all platforms that Firefox runs on. So my first recommendation to all of my folks is 1) Install FF 2) Install NoScript 3) Just for your own sanity also install AdBlockPlus. I have my folks subscribe to EasyList inside AdBlock Plus (the subscriptions will pop up when ABP launches for the first time) 5) Install CustomizeGoogle. For the latter make sure that all of the services that can be so set are set to use https instead of http. 6) Don't call me. The only reason you would call me is if you did not do one of the steps in 1-5, or when you were presented with a warning or something requiring confirmation you made the wrong decision. While people who complain that Vista is to restrictive are going to not like NoScript at first, either, more importantly, they won't be calling me for help. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Clickjacking
None of the above helps you if you are running a program that has an embedded browser that forces you to use IE or Safari, though, so keep that in mind when you allow those programs to hit the web for you. If you're using one of the tools that lets you pick the browser that will be embedded, then you're grinning. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Totally OT - I need some heads up (and a hug or two)
Hi Malte, Perhaps a good cry helps-- and as Scott recommends-- a couple days off. You're such a super guy and have helped many here in the past. I'm glad to help in anyway possible. My thoughts are with you. best, Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Totally OT - I need some heads up (and a hug or two)
Malte Brill wrote: Hi all, today is the worst day in my self employment life. I arrived at the office today, just to learn that everything apple branded is gone. Stolen. Away. Malte, I'm so sorry. I know exactly how you must feel. Your heart just sinks, it is horrible. I think all of us can empathize, this is our worst nightmare. Big, big hug. For what it is worth, I've posted a tiny little utility that I use all the time. It isn't polished or beautiful, it's just a simple little tool that I have been using for years. I suspect most of us have something like this, but for anyone who wants to grab a copy, it's here: http://www.hyperactivesw.com/downloads/ftp_upload.rev.zip This is a very basic little stack that just uploads the current topstack to my FTP backup directory. It also contains a button that lets you choose any other file on disk instead for upload. Before uploading, it gzips the file, adds a date stamp to the name, and then sends it. You will need to change the first line of the card script to point to the location of your online ftp backup directory. Since the script does include your ftp password in the URL, I password-protect my copy of the stack to prevent anyone seeing the full URL. It wouldn't be hard to change the utility to ask for the password on each access; I've always been too lazy to type it in each time so I leave it stored in the script. I have a backscript with a handler like this: on bup go stack path/to/FTP_Upload.rev end bup When I am working on a stack, I just type bup into the message box periodically and this little utility appears with my current stack already loaded into the file to back up field. I just hit the upload button and away it goes. Each upload is gzipped and date-stamped on the server. It currently does not include the time in the stamp, so each upload on the same day overwrites the previous one. That's all I need generally but you could change the script. I keep other copies locally, but this way the most current version is always on the remote server. Anyone who wants this, go ahead. It isn't pretty or sophisticated, and I'm sure others have fancier utilites than this one, but it's a start for anyone who wants it. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: strange char translation from intel to ppc
Just replying to myself (in case anyone wants to know how this was resolved). I went through the keys of the array and ran macToIso() on each one. After checking that the appropriate delimiters were now ascii 30 and 29, I then ran the code and it worked. I'm glad I don't have to come up with a new mechanism, but still puzzled as to what happened. I hope that since the stack's charset is iso (since it was built on Windows originally), when I try to run it as a Windows standalone there won't be any translation problems again. Bernard On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 11:04 PM, Bernard Devlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a stack where I use some non-printable ascii chars as delimiters (specifically, ascii 30 and 29). This stack worked fine on the Windows and Linux versions of 3.0 (well, until they crashed or went berserk, but everyone's tired of that story). However, when I moved the stack over to OS X (ppc), the application stopped working. Upon investigation it turned out that the delimiters had swapped - they were now ascii 222 and 218. Is that to be expected? Nothing else in the stacks seems amiss, and I'm puzzled by this. I had seen some strange behaviour copying them between platforms. When copied by scp, the stacks were corrupted, but copied fine by ftp binary. When copied by ftp as ascii, opening them crashed Rev 3.0 on OS X. It's not a big deal, but I suppose it might be a gotcha worth noting for anyone else who uses non-printable ascii chars as delimiters. Bernard ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: List of all possible messages? and flipbook
Hi: Thanks for all the ideas. However, I can't find a go to next card message. I wanted to trap it so that a user could flip thru the cards, but if it is one I don't want them to see, like a prefs card, then I could skip that one and go to the one after it. Maybe I'm on the wrong track? Also, I would like a user to click a button on the first card and have the cards automatically present themselves at a certain time interval rate, and write the last location the mouse was at on that card to a field on that card before leaving. Is that possible? I couldn't find a flipbook type stack to inspect. Any ideas are appreciated, m Rev also has a function the commandnames which you can execute to get a list, which you can place in a field. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: List of all possible messages? and flipbook
Michael, Check out preOpenCard to get a message before a card is opened, or possibly closeCard which is sent as you leave a card. One of those should probably do what you want Hi: Thanks for all the ideas. However, I can't find a go to next card message. I wanted to trap it so that a user could flip thru the cards, but if it is one I don't want them to see, like a prefs card, then I could skip that one and go to the one after it. Maybe I'm on the wrong track? Also, I would like a user to click a button on the first card and have the cards automatically present themselves at a certain time interval rate, and write the last location the mouse was at on that card to a field on that card before leaving. Is that possible? I couldn't find a flipbook type stack to inspect. Any ideas are appreciated, m Rev also has a function the commandnames which you can execute to get a list, which you can place in a field. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: List of all possible messages? and flipbook
on preopencard constant kOkcards aCard,bCard,Barncard get the short name of me if it is among the items of kOkCards then -- doodah end if end preopencard Handle the preOpenCard message to update a card's appearance before the card appears on screen. Hi: Thanks for all the ideas. However, I can't find a go to next card message. I wanted to trap it so that a user could flip thru the cards, but if it is one I don't want them to see, like a prefs card, then I could skip that one and go to the one after it. Maybe I'm on the wrong track? Also, I would like a user to click a button on the first card and have the cards automatically present themselves at a certain time interval rate, and write the last location the mouse was at on that card to a field on that card before leaving. Is that possible? I couldn't find a flipbook type stack to inspect. Any ideas are appreciated, m Rev also has a function the commandnames which you can execute to get a list, which you can place in a field. -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: List of all possible messages? and flipbook
Left off the equals sign: constant kOkcards = aCard,bCard,Barncard constant kOkcards aCard,bCard,Barncard -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Is the Revolution Dictionary written using Revolution?
I'm trying to teach myself UI capabilities in Rev. The Revolution Dictionary has some very nice features. Is it written in Revolution? If yes, is there a way to look at how it is done? I cannot just change to edit mode while it is up. Thanks, --Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Totally OT - I need some heads up (and a hug or two)
Hey Malte, Very sorry to hear what happened, I agree with the thank goodness you am not like them sentiment that Mark expressed. I have had a similar experience. One effect of starting over is that ALL the thinking and refinement you have done to date is where you start from, not from the place you started from last time. For me (when this happened a few years ago) I think the second round product was a lot cleaner than the first round. But in the meantime there is that horrible feeling in the pit of your stomach, yes? Let me know directly if you need anything. Regards (and a little awkward hug) John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Malte Brill Sent: Thursday, 9 October 2008 8:52 PM To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Totally OT - I need some heads up (and a hug or two) Hi all, today is the worst day in my self employment life. I arrived at the office today, just to learn that everything apple branded is gone. Stolen. Away. Not only that, but my external backup HD also vanished and a few things I was pretty fond of, like a keyboard (music) and a microphone. I do not care too much about the machines. Those are replacable. But I lost at least 3 months worth of data. I had something cool coming up, but I am afraid I am thrown back to point zero, at least with the documentation. The people I have been talking off list will know what I mean. So everyone who is involved with that project, I beg your patience, as I really need to start freshly on it. And just now I can't. I just feel like sitting in the corner and weeping. So if any of you has any urgent support queries for AE or other stuff I beg your patience. It might be a day or two until I recover. All the best, Malte ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Is the Revolution Dictionary written using Revolution?
Hi Scott, Yes, here's how: 1) In Rev prefs, make sure Revolution UI elements appear in lists of stacks is checked. 2) Open Rev's Application Browser. 3) Open the Dictionary. It should appear at the bottom of the app browser list. Now you can browse it as any other stack. HTH - Phil Davis Scott Pepperdine wrote: I'm trying to teach myself UI capabilities in Rev. The Revolution Dictionary has some very nice features. Is it written in Revolution? If yes, is there a way to look at how it is done? I cannot just change to edit mode while it is up. Thanks, --Scott -- Phil Davis PDS Labs Professional Software Development http://pdslabs.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Why I didn't, and why I may, later.
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Richmond Mathewson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judy Perry wrote: It's not as if Apple didn't give didn't give people HOW many years warning that PPC compatibility was going to be phased out! 1. Not that long really. --3 years, actually. Seems long enough for me. 2. Apple did not tell PPC users they would be left with an OS that still contained all sorts of glitches and a rather messy, inconsistent GUI. --What on earth are you talking about? People were warned they had a couple of years to transition from OS 9 to OS X, then also to transition from PPC to Intel-based if they wanted to be current. I am absolutely sure that Apple could, should they so wish, belt out a PPC version of 10.6 that was as light for PPCs as they claim Snow Leopard will be for INTEL Macs. But they won't because they want people to dump their PPCs and buy INTEL machines. This is, of course, based on the supposition that every Mac user has the money and the inclination to buy a new Mac every 2 years. --Or, maybe, as is (I've heard) the case with Revolution, they have difficulty finding current compilers for PPC chips (and as Rev has had with respect to OS 9). --Exactly which major software development firms are still shipping PPC-native and *current* apps? With an INTEL Mac, I haven't, and I probably won't, prefering either to buy a relatively cheap PC (or bash one together out of bits and pieces) and run either a Linux distro or (Heaven forfend) Hackintosh; especially after reading recently about smelly machines. However, fingers crossed, step on my toe, etc. my collection of PPC Macs are all doing sterling service right now; come to think of it my macMini PPC is only 3 years old! --Wonderful! I have an 8-y.o. dual G4 tower, a G4 Cube and a second-gen iMac (egg-shaped). I don't expect them to run Snow Leopard; in fact, one of them is strictly and deliberately OS 9. There's no shame in running an older OS on older machines. I have downloaded RunRev 3 and am currently playing with it; I certainly would rather buy RR 3 than buy a new Mac as: a. it functions perfectly adequately on my G3 iMac. b. it can produce software for several Operating Systems (but not RISC !!!). c. £ for £ it gives, me at least, more bang for your buck than a new computer. --Well, and of course, people in hell probably certainly would rather have ice water than flames, but you get what you get. Judy ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Totally OT - I need some heads up (and a hug or two)
Malte, I'm so sorry to hear about this! Big hugs from SoCal! Judy On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 2:51 AM, Malte Brill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, today is the worst day in my self employment life. I arrived at the office today, just to learn that everything apple branded is gone. Stolen. Away. Not only that, but my external backup HD also vanished and a few things I was pretty fond of, like a keyboard (music) and a microphone. I do not care too much about the machines. Those are replacable. But I lost at least 3 months worth of data. I had something cool coming up, but I am afraid I am thrown back to point zero, at least with the documentation. The people I have been talking off list will know what I mean. So everyone who is involved with that project, I beg your patience, as I really need to start freshly on it. And just now I can't. I just feel like sitting in the corner and weeping. So if any of you has any urgent support queries for AE or other stuff I beg your patience. It might be a day or two until I recover. All the best, Malte ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Visible and extra monitors.
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 5:01 AM, Richmond Mathewson [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: This one has probably come up before . . . Possibly, an itemised table showing what commands are available in each version of Runtime Revolution should be drawn up to spare people with early versions a lot of time, and make them stump up the money for newer versions. Yes, about as many times as the answer ;-) Open the Rev Dictionary, cntrl+click (right click or whatever on a Win) on either of the column headings and you'll be given a pop-up list of the available columns. Tick 'Version'. Now, like with most tables, you can click on the column heading and have the table sorted by that column. Click again, and go from ascending to descending (or visa versa). So, not only can you simply look up a keyword,function,message,property in the dictionary and immediately have the version number available, but you can sort them all and see which have been introduced at each release. Unfortunately, as tables aren't exactly Rev's strong point, there are problems with sorting in earlier versions of the Dictionary. If memory serves me correctly, this applied to the Platform column, this use to be Icons rather than Text, so it wouldn't sort correctly. I've not noticed any sorting problems with the latest 3.0 Dictionary - but I haven't tested every column either. HTH ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: script abbreviations
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 10:07 AM, william humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I see it for each individual thing you look up now. Thanks. I just thought there would be a list of all the synonyms somewhere. There is, in the Dictionary. As recently posted re a similar problem wanting a list of Version compatibility of every keyword,property,function,message. Open the Dictionary and Cntrl+click (right click or whatever on Win) on any Column header and you'll get a pop-up list, select Synonym. Now, just like most tables, you can click on the Synonym column header to sort the column, and click again to reverse sort. Very easy to group all entries that have Synonyms together:-) This works for the 2.7 and beyond Dictionary. I can't remember if this worked before 2.7. HTH ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: script abbreviations
Kay C Lan wrote: As recently posted re a similar problem wanting a list of Version compatibility of every keyword,property,function,message. Open the Dictionary and Cntrl+click (right click or whatever on Win) on any Column header and you'll get a pop-up list, select Synonym. Now, just like most tables, you can click on the Synonym column header to sort the column, and click again to reverse sort. Very easy to group all entries that have Synonyms together:-) Good tip, but now I wonder: Control-click/right-click? Where's the non-secret way to get to that? Is this also in the menu bar somewhere? -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: script abbreviations
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 11:20 AM, Richard Gaskin Good tip, but now I wonder: Control-click/right-click? Where's the non-secret way to get to that? Is this also in the menu bar somewhere? Well I would like to say that it's one of the many 'secrets' passed on to full paid up members of the Use Rev List ;-) but page 29 of the Rev 3.0 Users Guide says: The items can be chosen via the Preferences pane or by right-clicking on the column headings themselves (when in multiple column view). In Rev 3.0 you'll find it sensibly under the Documentation subsection of the Preference pane. So, still very much hidden, but not a secret to those who read the Docs. As a past complainer about the standard of the Docs I must accept that considerable improvements have been made. :-) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
