How does RunRev finds externals when building the standalone?
Hello, I am still without success building the Mac standalone of my Rev 3.0+Valentina4Rev3 app on my Win XP machine. The standalone builder just doesn't takes the Valentina bundles into the standalone folder. What I have done so far is: 1. Setup everything of valentina how the docs say. And Valentina runs fine in the IDE of my XP machine and in Win Standalone. 2. In the standalone settings of my stack I build for Mac (Universal) and checked: Select inclusions for the standalone app: - Script Libraries: Valentina2 (Tried before also to check database support) 3. I copied the v4rev.bundle and the database_drivers folder (from my Mac) into the Win XP directory: C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Tiemo.KESTNER\Eigene Dateien\My Revolution Studio\Runtime\Mac OS X\Universal\Externals\ 4. In the folder: C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Tiemo.KESTNER\Eigene Dateien\My Revolution Studio\Externals - there is a Valentina txt file with one line: Valentina2,v4rev.dll and a folder: Database Drivers again with a txt file and the line Valentina2,dbvalentina2.dll. Up to now I don't understand at all, how the link from Rev to externals works. Probably my problem is just a wrong path or a missing option. Perhaps somebody could explain to me the mechanism of information setup how Rev knows which externals to bind and where they have to be put on a XP machine. I would think this mechanism should be the same for all externals and perhaps I just have to put the folders into the right place. Thanks for any help Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How does RunRev finds externals when building the standalone?
On 10/10/08 9:45 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I am still without success building the Mac standalone of my Rev 3.0+Valentina4Rev3 app on my Win XP machine. The standalone builder just doesn't takes the Valentina bundles into the standalone folder. What I have done so far is: 1. Setup everything of valentina how the docs say. And Valentina runs fine in the IDE of my XP machine and in Win Standalone. 2. In the standalone settings of my stack I build for Mac (Universal) and checked: Select inclusions for the standalone app: - Script Libraries: Valentina2 (Tried before also to check database support) 3. I copied the v4rev.bundle and the database_drivers folder (from my Mac) into the Win XP directory: C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Tiemo.KESTNER\Eigene Dateien\My Revolution Studio\Runtime\Mac OS X\Universal\Externals\ 4. In the folder: C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Tiemo.KESTNER\Eigene Dateien\My Revolution Studio\Externals - there is a Valentina txt file with one line: Valentina2,v4rev.dll and a folder: Database Drivers again with a txt file and the line Valentina2,dbvalentina2.dll. Quick Guess. Runtime/Mac OS X/Universal/ Folder also must have these txt files. When REV runs from IDE, it uses info from My Revolution Studio\Externals But when it build standalone, it NOT watch into this folder, It watch into Runtime folder. And here you have no .txt files. Up to now I don't understand at all, how the link from Rev to externals works. Probably my problem is just a wrong path or a missing option. Perhaps somebody could explain to me the mechanism of information setup how Rev knows which externals to bind and where they have to be put on a XP machine. I would think this mechanism should be the same for all externals and perhaps I just have to put the folders into the right place. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re-2: alternatelanguages ... persistent objects from createObject
Hello Krey, the reason for my desire to reuse open win COM objects aims to use many other COM Objects and winword/excel is just an example anyone knows. Of course in winword you can save the file and open it in a second session. But I have some scenarios where it would be fine to having let the object opened and just interact with it. It is just an idea to think about during a coffee break ... Regards, Franz Original Messageprocessed by David InfoCenter Subject: Re: alternatelanguages ... persistent objects from createObject (09-Okt-2008 16:35) From:Ken Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] But: Could it be possible out of runrev (any idea) to have 2 alternatelanguagescripts runword1.vbs and writeagaininword2.vbs where the second just uses the word object opened by the first. = Can I use a COM-object again by any trick? The first script could perhaps give back an objectID in the result variable to runrev, but how could I reconnect the writeagaininword2.vbs to this existing object (if the first script did not close it)? Just curious - why would you need to do this instead of just creating a new object? The reason I ask is that you can successfully link to currently open instances of applications (I'm thinking MS Office primarily) to manipulate them from multiple independent scripts. That is, you can use VBS with createObject to launch an instance of Excel, say, and get a sheet started, and then later use another VBS with createObject to add data to the same worksheet in Excel. Of course it would be the best runrev could use COM directly ... how about a createObject command in 3.1 ;-) That would be nice! :-) What can I do with the XML alternatelanguage on windows? Sorry, haven't done anything with that... maybe someone else can chime in... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How does RunRev finds externals when building the standalone?
Tiemo, Although I hope someone can help you make things work with the standalone builder, there is a manual way to set the externals for a stack which was used before the standalone builder did things for you. You can create an empty stack, set its externals property and load this stack when you need it from your standalone. Roughly: 1) Create an empty stack, call it say valentina.rev 2) In the message box, execute: set the externals of this stack to v4rev.bundlecrv4rev.dll 3) Save this stack and the Valentina externals to somewhere where you standalone will be able to access them 4) Modify your application to do something like this: set the directory to path.to.externals/ (this could be a relative path) start using stack valentina.rev There are many variations on how you could setup the files, but the takeaway is this: Whenever Rev loads a stack with it's externals property set, it will attempt to load the externals listed. From a standalone, you can load a regular stack which you've stashed somewhere which already has this property set. Thus if you can anticipate where your externals will be (using relative paths to your standalone), you can create a stack which serves to load them for you. Hope that helps. It's easier when the standalone builder just works, but it can be handy to get to know the lower level workings of external loading as well. Hello, I am still without success building the Mac standalone of my Rev 3.0+Valentina4Rev3 app on my Win XP machine. The standalone builder just doesn't takes the Valentina bundles into the standalone folder. What I have done so far is: 1. Setup everything of valentina how the docs say. And Valentina runs fine in the IDE of my XP machine and in Win Standalone. 2. In the standalone settings of my stack I build for Mac (Universal) and checked: Select inclusions for the standalone app: - Script Libraries: Valentina2 (Tried before also to check database support) 3. I copied the v4rev.bundle and the database_drivers folder (from my Mac) into the Win XP directory: C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Tiemo.KESTNER\Eigene Dateien\My Revolution Studio \Runtime\Mac OS X\Universal\Externals\ 4. In the folder: C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Tiemo.KESTNER\Eigene Dateien\My Revolution Studio\Externals - there is a Valentina txt file with one line: Valentina2,v4rev.dll and a folder: Database Drivers again with a txt file and the line Valentina2,dbvalentina2.dll. Up to now I don't understand at all, how the link from Rev to externals works. Probably my problem is just a wrong path or a missing option. Perhaps somebody could explain to me the mechanism of information setup how Rev knows which externals to bind and where they have to be put on a XP machine. I would think this mechanism should be the same for all externals and perhaps I just have to put the folders into the right place. Thanks for any help Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: How does RunRev finds externals when building the standalone?
Noop, I tried to put the bundles and txts in ... /Runtime/Mac OS X/Universal/ As well as in ... /Runtime/Mac OS X/Universal/Externals Without success One thing I noticed is that the bundle folder Database_Drivers has an underscore in the middle and the txt Database Drivers.txt has no underscore. But that could only affect the dbvalentina2 package (content of Database_Drivers) and the v4rev.bundle package (one level higher) should be taken anyway. Tiemo Quick Guess. Runtime/Mac OS X/Universal/ Folder also must have these txt files. When REV runs from IDE, it uses info from My Revolution Studio\Externals But when it build standalone, it NOT watch into this folder, It watch into Runtime folder. And here you have no .txt files. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: How does RunRev finds externals when building the standalone?
Hi Brian, that sounds interesting. What I don't understand is, why do I need another stack to bind the externals and why can't I just set the external properties of my main stack and put the externals into the same directory as my main stack? Tiemo Although I hope someone can help you make things work with the standalone builder, there is a manual way to set the externals for a stack which was used before the standalone builder did things for you. You can create an empty stack, set its externals property and load this stack when you need it from your standalone. Roughly: 1) Create an empty stack, call it say valentina.rev 2) In the message box, execute: set the externals of this stack to v4rev.bundlecrv4rev.dll 3) Save this stack and the Valentina externals to somewhere where you standalone will be able to access them 4) Modify your application to do something like this: set the directory to path.to.externals/ (this could be a relative path) start using stack valentina.rev There are many variations on how you could setup the files, but the takeaway is this: Whenever Rev loads a stack with it's externals property set, it will attempt to load the externals listed. From a standalone, you can load a regular stack which you've stashed somewhere which already has this property set. Thus if you can anticipate where your externals will be (using relative paths to your standalone), you can create a stack which serves to load them for you. Hope that helps. It's easier when the standalone builder just works, but it can be handy to get to know the lower level workings of external loading as well. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: script abbreviations
Unlike Richard, I foolishly entered an enhancement request a month or two back, that the Dictionary have a column for 'version'. A few days later I had to close that request once I found that that feature had been there for years, but I hadn't known about it. I too found it by reading the User Guide. I chose to re-read the User Guide because it hadn't been updated since version 2.7 (and had had several missing chapters in all that time). The current User Guide is something to be proud of - although to be fair, I think the user documentation that came with versions 1.1.1 onwards was also pretty good (written by Jeanne Devoto, I believe). The combination of the current Dictionary and the current User Guide are for me the highest point in Rev documentation. I still have some ideas for how there could be an improvement in the docs though (although I think it would be controversial). Anyway, I don't feel quite so foolish about that enhancement request, since I was in good company in not knowing about the feature. Bernard On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 4:37 AM, Kay C Lan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 11:20 AM, Richard Gaskin Good tip, but now I wonder: Control-click/right-click? Where's the non-secret way to get to that? Is this also in the menu bar somewhere? Well I would like to say that it's one of the many 'secrets' passed on to full paid up members of the Use Rev List ;-) but page 29 of the Rev 3.0 Users Guide says: The items can be chosen via the Preferences pane or by right-clicking on the column headings themselves (when in multiple column view). In Rev 3.0 you'll find it sensibly under the Documentation subsection of the Preference pane. So, still very much hidden, but not a secret to those who read the Docs. As a past complainer about the standard of the Docs I must accept that considerable improvements have been made. :-) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: How does RunRev finds externals when building the standalone?
Ruslan, actually I get this error message when building the standalone after having copied the valentina txts into the runtime dir: 1 MacOS, external not found: C:/Dokumente und Einstellungen/Tiemo.KESTNER/Eigene Dateien/My Revolution Studio/Runtime/Mac OS X/Universal/Externals/v4rev.dll Tiemo Quick Guess. Runtime/Mac OS X/Universal/ Folder also must have these txt files. When REV runs from IDE, it uses info from My Revolution Studio\Externals But when it build standalone, it NOT watch into this folder, It watch into Runtime folder. And here you have no .txt files. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AW: How does RunRev finds externals when building the standalone?
You can =). The side effect of using a separate stack is that you can load or unload the externals on demand. But yes, you can set the externals property of any stack you want, and when it loads, the externals should come with it. Just be careful to set the paths relative to the standalone or set the directory property before loading the externals. For me, I like having that separate resource stack that I can load when I want it, but admittedly, it is often not necessary. Hi Brian, that sounds interesting. What I don't understand is, why do I need another stack to bind the externals and why can't I just set the external properties of my main stack and put the externals into the same directory as my main stack? Tiemo Although I hope someone can help you make things work with the standalone builder, there is a manual way to set the externals for a stack which was used before the standalone builder did things for you. You can create an empty stack, set its externals property and load this stack when you need it from your standalone. Roughly: 1) Create an empty stack, call it say valentina.rev 2) In the message box, execute: set the externals of this stack to v4rev.bundlecrv4rev.dll 3) Save this stack and the Valentina externals to somewhere where you standalone will be able to access them 4) Modify your application to do something like this: set the directory to path.to.externals/ (this could be a relative path) start using stack valentina.rev There are many variations on how you could setup the files, but the takeaway is this: Whenever Rev loads a stack with it's externals property set, it will attempt to load the externals listed. From a standalone, you can load a regular stack which you've stashed somewhere which already has this property set. Thus if you can anticipate where your externals will be (using relative paths to your standalone), you can create a stack which serves to load them for you. Hope that helps. It's easier when the standalone builder just works, but it can be handy to get to know the lower level workings of external loading as well. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AW: How does RunRev finds externals when building the standalone?
On 10/10/08 11:07 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ruslan, actually I get this error message when building the standalone after having copied the valentina txts into the runtime dir: 1 MacOS, external not found: C:/Dokumente und Einstellungen/Tiemo.KESTNER/Eigene Dateien/My Revolution Studio/Runtime/Mac OS X/Universal/Externals/v4rev.dll And why DLL is here??? You need copy TXT files from your MAC's MyDocuments/Rev/Externals/... -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How does RunRev finds externals when building the standalone?
On 10/10/08 2:23 PM, Tiemo Hollmann TB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Tiemo, Hi Ruslan, half the way! Hmm that sounds plausible, but because I don't have a Rev installation on Mac, I didn't had these valentina txt documents on my Mac. So I created them now manually and the v4rev.bundle is now recognized and taken into the standalone, but the dbvalentina2 not yet, probably still a path problem. Ahaaa. I see. Kirill, so we need improve our installer.rev stack, To create these txt files if they not present. Then add line about Valentina You see? Tiemo, Kirill right now work on your issue. How it looks like now on my Win XP is this: ... \Runtime\Mac OS X\Universal\Externals\database drivers ... \Runtime\Mac OS X\Universal\Externals\v4rev.bundle ... \Runtime\Mac OS X\Universal\Externals\externals.txt (content: Valentina2,v4rev.bundle) And one level deeper: ... \Runtime\Mac OS X\Universal\Externals\database drivers\dbvalentina2 ... \Runtime\Mac OS X\Universal\Externals\database drivers\database drivers.txt (content: Valentina2,dbvalentina2) Ok good What I don't understand yet is how Rev shall recognize the dbvalentina2 bundle, which is one level deeper in database drivers, how shall Rev know this path? Because its REVOLUTION rule, this is not Paradigma's idea If you look inside of Revolution own folder, Revolution/Externals/ You will see the same structure. The other thing is that I have seen somewhere database_drivers written with an underscore in the middle? No, I see it inside of REV as Database Drivers -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Totally OT - I need some heads up (and a hug or two)
Dear friends, to all of you who responded on and off list. THANK YOU! I really apperciate it. I am not yet in a condition where I can reply to email, but the situation will not bring me down for long. I will be taking a couple of days off. Going seasides next Friday. Too many things to pt into place before. Then I will start with a recharged battery and maybe this is a chance to make it even better than in the first try. I am glad to be part of a community that cares. Thanks to all of you. All the best, Malte ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How does RunRev finds externals when building the standalone?
On 10/10/08 2:35 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Ruslan, half the way! Hmm that sounds plausible, but because I don't have a Rev installation on Mac, I didn't had these valentina txt documents on my Mac. So I created them now manually and the v4rev.bundle is now recognized and taken into the standalone, but the dbvalentina2 not yet, probably still a path problem. Ahaaa. I see. Kirill, so we need improve our installer.rev stack, To create these txt files if they not present. Then add line about Valentina You see? And again aha, since on your MAC there is no Revolution, Then you cannot at all execute installer.rev -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Email Client (Outlook Express) won't start after console
Hello Ken. I have been living with this situation for awhile and don't have the exact wording. While coding in the IDE (Windows XP Pro) and using 2.5* and then running the program within the IDE to check functionality of the error reporting of the finished program an error was encountered. The email client facilitated reporting mechanism came up and stupidly without either cancelling or sending the reported error I quit the program by quitting the IDE. Since doing that Outlook Express 5 will not start up as an email program and acts as if it is hung up. Some years back this same thing happened to me and it turned out that Outlook was stuck' in the waiting to report the error mode. If I remember correctly that was fixed by a registry tweak. Unfortunately I can't find my notes on that little issue if I made any. I do remember that it was someone from the Rev list (old list) who came up with this explanation and fix for me. I have searched the list as far back as I could, the web and mickeysoft without success. I don't want to reinstall Outlook Express at this time. I hope this helps explain the situation better. Mark MacKenzie Art Conservator Wet Plate Photographer Alcalde, New Mexico No virus found in this outgoing message Checked by PC Tools AntiVirus (5.0.0.10 - 10.100.041). http://www.pctools.com/free-antivirus/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
FW: [V4REV] How to build MAC application using REV WIN. Step by step.
-- Forwarded Message From: Kirill Pekarov [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Valentina Developers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:00:47 +0300 To: Valentina Developers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: problems building a rev-valentinastandalone on mac Hi, Tiemo. What I did step-by-step: 1) Prepare REV WIN IDE: -- * Download and install REVOLUTION on windows if not yet. * Download and install V4REV on windows if not yet. After installation run the install.rev script. Restart Revolution. * Install on mac os V4REV. * Copy folder ~/My Revolution Enterprise/Runtime/Mac OS X from mac to win /My Documents/My Revolution Enterprise/Runtime/Mac OS X 2) Build application: -- * Open stack in REV IDE * In the menu File - Standalone Application Settings - OS X, of the app, -- enable check box Mac OS X(Universal) -- make sure that Script Externals have Valentina2 is enabled. -- make sure that Script Externals have Valentina (1.x) is disabled. * Menu File - Save As Standalone Application... to create executable. * COPY MyApp.app to MAC, and finish it using Installer script. * DONE. App works now on MAC. -- Best regards, Kirill Pekarov Software Engineer Associate Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - The Ultra-Fast Database http://www.valentina-db.com ___ Valentina mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina -- End of Forwarded Message ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
difference between closing with the red cross or sending close?
Hello, a runrev beginners question :-) I have a menu item with quit and the red cross in the title bar to close my app. Now I want to capture both messages with the same Do you really want to quit?. What I did is the following: On menupick -.- close gDefaultStack -...- on closeStack put the short name of this stack into tStack switch (tStack) case dgswb answer Do you really want to quit? with No and Yes if it is Yes then xCloseStackCleanups pass closeStack end if break default pass closeStack end switch end closeStack When clicking the red cross everything works as expected. But when clicking my menu item I also get my answer choice, but my stack closes if I choose yes or no Probably something with passing the close message wrong? Thank for any hint Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AW: How does RunRev finds externals when building the standalone?
On 10/10/08 2:47 PM, Tiemo Hollmann TB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Tiemo, Hi Ruslan, I executed the install.rev on my Win and it ran whatever it did :) But not on MAC. S. * Kirill have create Stanadlone app on WIN, * Send it to me, * I have run installer script on my MAC. * run application on MAC - WORKS As I understand, it should work now on your side also. Please confirm. Tiemo And again aha, since on your MAC there is no Revolution, Then you cannot at all execute installer.rev -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How does RunRev finds externals when building the standalone?
On 10/10/08 4:42 PM, Tiemo Hollmann TB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I executed the install.rev on my Win and it ran whatever it did :) But not on MAC. S. How should I run installer.rev, when not having a Mac licence for RunRev? You should not. You run insaller.rev on Windows only. This create in the /Documents/Rev/ folder all required fodlers evenRuntime/MAC OS X/Universal You need just MNUALLY copy here from MAC V4REV.bundle dbvalentina2 And create two txt files with one line each. --- P.S. MAKE SURE that in Standalone Settings dialog you point app to be UNIVERSAL ! I think this where can be a mistake on your side. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: How does RunRev finds externals when building the standalone?
Hi Ruslan, I executed the install.rev on my Win and it ran whatever it did :) Tiemo And again aha, since on your MAC there is no Revolution, Then you cannot at all execute installer.rev -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Totally OT - I need some heads up (and a hug or two)
More hugs and sympathy from the UK, once you're reading emails again. Having had data loss problems in the past (not through theft, more through my own stupidity) I'm in the middle of sorting out three sets of HDs - the ones with the working files, a second set which get updated every day or two from the working drives, and a third set a few miles away at my parents, which get swapped with the second set every week. The swapping with drives on another site isn't quite set up properly yet, so at the moment I'm still vulnerable to theft/floods/burning houses etc. :-( Best of luck, and have a great time at the seaside! Ian On 10 Oct 2008, at 13:19, Malte Brill wrote: Dear friends, to all of you who responded on and off list. THANK YOU! I really apperciate it. I am not yet in a condition where I can reply to email, but the situation will not bring me down for long. I will be taking a couple of days off. Going seasides next Friday. Too many things to pt into place before. Then I will start with a recharged battery and maybe this is a chance to make it even better than in the first try. I am glad to be part of a community that cares. Thanks to all of you. All the best, Malte ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Is the Revolution Dictionary written using Revolution?
Thanks Phil! That was a huge help. It is now approaching 3 am and I have been browsing those stacks for hours. Learning a lot. However, one thing that I am interested in still escapes me. Does anyone know how the 'data view' list of topics is displayed with alternating lines being different colors? They might be populating the list with htmlText and setting the bgcolor of alternating lines to different colors, but I haven't found the function (yet) if they are. I'm not asking anyone to find it for me. I'll keep digging. But if you already know how this is being done a quick hint would be appreciated. Thanks, --Scott Phil Davis wrote: Hi Scott, Yes, here's how: 1) In Rev prefs, make sure Revolution UI elements appear in lists of stacks is checked. 2) Open Rev's Application Browser. 3) Open the Dictionary. It should appear at the bottom of the app browser list. Now you can browse it as any other stack. HTH - Phil Davis Scott Pepperdine wrote: I'm trying to teach myself UI capabilities in Rev. The Revolution Dictionary has some very nice features. Is it written in Revolution? If yes, is there a way to look at how it is done? I cannot just change to edit mode while it is up. Thanks, --Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: AW: How does RunRev finds externals when building the standalone?
Hi Ruslan, half the way! Hmm that sounds plausible, but because I don't have a Rev installation on Mac, I didn't had these valentina txt documents on my Mac. So I created them now manually and the v4rev.bundle is now recognized and taken into the standalone, but the dbvalentina2 not yet, probably still a path problem. How it looks like now on my Win XP is this: ... \Runtime\Mac OS X\Universal\Externals\database drivers ... \Runtime\Mac OS X\Universal\Externals\v4rev.bundle ... \Runtime\Mac OS X\Universal\Externals\externals.txt (content: Valentina2,v4rev.bundle) And one level deeper: ... \Runtime\Mac OS X\Universal\Externals\database drivers\dbvalentina2 ... \Runtime\Mac OS X\Universal\Externals\database drivers\database drivers.txt (content: Valentina2,dbvalentina2) What I don't understand yet is how Rev shall recognize the dbvalentina2 bundle, which is one level deeper in database drivers, how shall Rev know this path? The other thing is that I have seen somewhere database_drivers written with an underscore in the middle? Thanks Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:use-revolution- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Ruslan Zasukhin Gesendet: Freitag, 10. Oktober 2008 12:31 An: use-revolution Betreff: Re: AW: How does RunRev finds externals when building the standalone? On 10/10/08 11:07 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ruslan, actually I get this error message when building the standalone after having copied the valentina txts into the runtime dir: 1 MacOS, external not found: C:/Dokumente und Einstellungen/Tiemo.KESTNER/Eigene Dateien/My Revolution Studio/Runtime/Mac OS X/Universal/Externals/v4rev.dll And why DLL is here??? You need copy TXT files from your MAC's MyDocuments/Rev/Externals/... -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: AW: How does RunRev finds externals when building the standalone?
Hi Ruslan Hi Ruslan, I executed the install.rev on my Win and it ran whatever it did :) But not on MAC. S. How should I run installer.rev, when not having a Mac licence for RunRev? * Kirill have create Stanadlone app on WIN, * Send it to me, * I have run installer script on my MAC. * run application on MAC - WORKS As I understand, it should work now on your side also. Please confirm. Not yet! Tiemo And again aha, since on your MAC there is no Revolution, Then you cannot at all execute installer.rev Right! ___ Valentina mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: difference between closing with the red cross or sending close?
Bonjour Tiemo, Have a look at the closeStackRequest message: on closeStackRequest answer Do you really want to quit? with No and Yes if it = Yes then pass closeStackRequest end closeStackRequest Le 10 oct. 08 à 15:38, Tiemo Hollmann TB a écrit : Hello, a runrev beginners question :-) I have a menu item with quit and the red cross in the title bar to close my app. Now I want to capture both messages with the same Do you really want to quit?. What I did is the following: On menupick -.- close gDefaultStack -...- on closeStack put the short name of this stack into tStack switch (tStack) case dgswb answer Do you really want to quit? with No and Yes if it is Yes then xCloseStackCleanups pass closeStack end if break default pass closeStack end switch end closeStack When clicking the red cross everything works as expected. But when clicking my menu item I also get my answer choice, but my stack closes if I choose yes or no Probably something with passing the close message wrong? Thank for any hint Tiemo Best regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. Plugins and tutorials for Revolution: http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: script abbreviations
Bernard, Thanks for the status update. I started reading the User Guide when I first signed up for Rev with 2.7. I quickly abandoned the effort because of the deficiencies you mentioned. Most of the things I was interested in just weren't included. In the few forays I've made into the 3.0 documentation, I had noticed an apparent improvement, but not the realization that things are MUCH better. Now that I know they are, less time will be spent on my idle efforts to engage myself, and much more learning the more unique potentialities of Rev. Glad to hear you got your MacBook back in operation again. All the best, Joe Wilkins On Oct 10, 2008, at 1:02 AM, Bernard Devlin wrote: Unlike Richard, I foolishly entered an enhancement request a month or two back, that the Dictionary have a column for 'version'. A few days later I had to close that request once I found that that feature had been there for years, but I hadn't known about it. I too found it by reading the User Guide. I chose to re-read the User Guide because it hadn't been updated since version 2.7 (and had had several missing chapters in all that time). The current User Guide is something to be proud of - although to be fair, I think the user documentation that came with versions 1.1.1 onwards was also pretty good (written by Jeanne Devoto, I believe). The combination of the current Dictionary and the current User Guide are for me the highest point in Rev documentation. I still have some ideas for how there could be an improvement in the docs though (although I think it would be controversial). Anyway, I don't feel quite so foolish about that enhancement request, since I was in good company in not knowing about the feature. Bernard ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
iPhone again
I've read through all the prior iPhone discussions in the archive. Is it true, really for certain, absolutely no way what-so-ever, don't even bother to think about it, to somehow run rev on an iPhone? Objective C is the least friendly obtuse head ache inducing programming I have ever encountered. Peter J. Bower, M.D. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Moving a Folder to Recycle Bin in Windows XP
Is it possible to use revMoveFolder to move a folder to the Recylcle Bin in Windows XP and what would the destination folder path be? thanks, Philip Usher ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
How to create a quicktime movie from a sequence of pictures?
I use Revolution to do psychology experiments. I have a program to generate sequences of simple stimuli (arrays of colored squares). A colleague who does infant research wants to use these stimuli in an experiment. She presents such sequences on a Mac as quicktime movies. I have modified the program to export each stimulus display as a picture (as a 'snapshot'). Is there a way to export the sequence of pictures as a quicktime movie from Revolution or to easily create a quicktime movie from the sequence of pictures? I think I can use iMovie to make a quicktime movie from pictures, but that seems like it might be rather tedious and clumsy, especially to get the timings like a want. I would appreciate any suggestions about how to do this, using Revolution alone or with externals or using other software. Thanks! J Scott Saults, PhD Research Associate Department of Psychological Sciences University of Missouri Columbia, MO 65211 USA ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: difference between closing with the red cross or sending close?
Hello Eric, yes that was also my first thought, but as the docs say (and how this one behaves) it is not called, if I send my own close stack from my own menu (not from the rev file menu) Thanks Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:use-revolution- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Eric Chatonet Gesendet: Freitag, 10. Oktober 2008 17:18 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: difference between closing with the red cross or sending close? Bonjour Tiemo, Have a look at the closeStackRequest message: on closeStackRequest answer Do you really want to quit? with No and Yes if it = Yes then pass closeStackRequest end closeStackRequest ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
OS X Application icon corrupted by V3 standalone maker?
Hi folks, I've just started using Rev version 3 (with GLX2) to make standalones for OS X and Windows, and noticed that on OS X my custom application icon didn't appear. At first I thought it was the usual lazy Finder scenario where you had to zip and unzip the file or one of the other magic invocations to get the icon recognised, but nothing worked. I then opened up the App package and found that the Revolution.icns file which contains the icon for the App would not open with Preview - it reported the file as being damaged or in the wrong format. Checking with an App created with Rev 2.9, the same icns file there opens ok. My source custom icns file opens ok so it looks like something is corrupting it when its being copied into the package. Has anyone else seen this? As a workaround, I've copied my custom icns file by hand and replaced the corrupted one in the package (and that works ok), but if the standalone maker is corrupting it I will report it as a bug. -- Phil Jimmieson [EMAIL PROTECTED] (UK) 0151 795 4236 (Mobile) 07976 983164 Computer Science Dept., Liverpool University, Ashton Building, Ashton Street Liverpool L69 3BX http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~phil/ I used to sit on a special medical board... ...but now I use this ointment. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
A List Mom Post
Dear List Folks, Its been a while. I'm fresh come from sifting through the moderator held messages for this list, and I have a moment to share my thoughts with you. To avoid frustration when posting, you might want to save these pearls of wisdom. 1.) The list identifies you strictly and only by your email address. If you post from a different address, one that you have not signed up to the list, your mail will not get through. To avoid inconvenience, delay and confusion, I recommend you sign up all email addresses you might conceivably ever accidentally post from one day, and then set all addresses but your main one to no mail so that you don't receive duplicate posts. Yes, eventually, I will get around to checking through the hundreds of spam mails that pile up in moderation, pick out your held post, and accept it. This may cause even more confusion if in the meantime you've figured out what happened and reposted... You can sign up, and manage your subscriptions here: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution 2.) There is a limit of 15k to the size of emails that can be posted to the list. To ensure you stay within this limit, I recommend you avoid elaborate html posts, don't send attachments (they won't get through anyway), don't embed images, and don't reply quoting the entire digest. If you do exceed the size limit, you will, eventually, get politely rejected by the list software (at least, I hope its polite, I haven't personally received the message it sends to such rejected mails...) 3.) Don't send subscribe or unsubscribe messages to the list. We have filtering set up to remove such posts, so generally you won't get through to the list, your post will get held and eventually deleted. If you are very lucky I might spot it and take action on it when deleting all the spam, but I might not. You can subscribe, unsubscribe, and manage your preferences here: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution 4.) and finally - do try and stay on topic! This is a lovely, friendly community. A little bit of chit chat here and there is acceptable. Announcements that have community relevance are fine. Protracted threads on such announcements can cause annoyance. Politics, religion, and cheese are strictly off topic and never permissible. Be respectful of your fellow Revolutionaries. Remember they are all human and some of them are fiery fellows who need to see the odd smiley to know they are not under attack! Warm Regards, Heather Wearing the Listmom Hat Heather Nagey Customer Services Manager Runtime Revolution Ltd http://www.runrev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
creating a Mac download
I created my app on the Windows platform and compiled for all 3 platforms. I then created a download page with the appropriate files that Rev generated. The pc file will download to my computer just fine. But when my daughter, who has a Mac, tried to download the Mac file, it wouldn't work for her. I did notice that Rev doesn't put an extension on the Mac file when it compiles. Do I need to add .app after the name of the file before I make it available for download for the Mac? Or do I need to change some setting before I compile? Thanks. Larry ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to create a quicktime movie from a sequence of pictures?
Do a search for Trevor DeVore's excellent QuickTime external for Rev. Ian On 15 Sep 2008, at 16:58, Saults, J Scott wrote: I use Revolution to do psychology experiments. I have a program to generate sequences of simple stimuli (arrays of colored squares). A colleague who does infant research wants to use these stimuli in an experiment. She presents such sequences on a Mac as quicktime movies. I have modified the program to export each stimulus display as a picture (as a 'snapshot'). Is there a way to export the sequence of pictures as a quicktime movie from Revolution or to easily create a quicktime movie from the sequence of pictures? I think I can use iMovie to make a quicktime movie from pictures, but that seems like it might be rather tedious and clumsy, especially to get the timings like a want. I would appreciate any suggestions about how to do this, using Revolution alone or with externals or using other software. Thanks! J Scott Saults, PhD Research Associate Department of Psychological Sciences University of Missouri Columbia, MO 65211 USA ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: creating a Mac download
Hi Larry, You can't do this. You need to make a zip or dmg file of the standalone. Making a zip file is easy on Windows (and Mac). You can copy the standalone to your daughter's computer. Put it inside a folder and give the folder the name of the standalone, without .app. Drop the folder onto the icon of Disk Utility. Disk Utility will now ask you where to save the dmg file. You can safely upload this file and make it available for download. The problem why distributing Mac standalones is slightly more difficult is that it is actually a folder. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Dutch forum: http://runrev.info/rrforum/ Benefit from our inexpensive hosting services. See http://economy-x-talk.com/server.html for more info. On 2 okt 2008, at 08:46, Larry Watts wrote: I created my app on the Windows platform and compiled for all 3 platforms. I then created a download page with the appropriate files that Rev generated. The pc file will download to my computer just fine. But when my daughter, who has a Mac, tried to download the Mac file, it wouldn't work for her. I did notice that Rev doesn't put an extension on the Mac file when it compiles. Do I need to add .app after the name of the file before I make it available for download for the Mac? Or do I need to change some setting before I compile? Thanks. Larry ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to create a quicktime movie from a sequence of pictures?
If you have QuickTime Pro you can open up the first image of the sequence, and the rest of the sequence will import as a movie that you can then save. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: iPhone again
Peter, no you can't run Revolution applications on an iPhone. You can however, build web applications that are tailored to the iPhone Mobile Safari thing. Objective-C is not a bad thing, it's way better than C/C++ (IMHO) Cheers andre On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 9:29 AM, Peter Bower, M.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've read through all the prior iPhone discussions in the archive. Is it true, really for certain, absolutely no way what-so-ever, don't even bother to think about it, to somehow run rev on an iPhone? Objective C is the least friendly obtuse head ache inducing programming I have ever encountered. Peter J. Bower, M.D. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How does RunRev finds externals when building the standalone?
On 10/10/08 8:34 PM, Tiemo Hollmann TB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You run insaller.rev on Windows only. This create in the /Documents/Rev/ folder all required fodlers evenRuntime/MAC OS X/Universal Yes it did Good :-) You need just MNUALLY copy here from MAC V4REV.bundle dbvalentina2 Yes I did, nothing happens But when creating manually: Runtime/MAC OS X/Universal/EXTERNALS folder (as Kirill posted yesterday) And copying manually V4REV.bundle and Externals.txt to it, then it works for V4REV.bundle RIGHT of course: Runtime/MAC OS X/Universal/EXTERNALS/V4REV.bundle Runtime/MAC OS X/Universal/EXTERNALS/Externals.txt Runtime/MAC OS X/Universal/EXTERNALS/Database Drivers/dbvalentina2 Runtime/MAC OS X/Universal/EXTERNALS/Database Drivers/Database Drivers.txt And create two txt files with one line each. If I copy dbvalentina2 into the same /EXTERNALS folder - How should the corresponding txt file be named, if the one for the V2REV.bundle is named Externals.txt? (I tried dbvalentina.txt without success, I tried to write two lines into externals.txt without success) Not into the same!!! Database Drivers subfolder. See above. Contents is (one line in each file): Runtime/MAC OS X/Universal/EXTERNALS/Externals.txt Valentina2,v4rev.bundle Runtime/MAC OS X/Universal/EXTERNALS/Database Drivers/Database Drivers.txt Valentina2,dbvalentina2 So what I did from one of your last postings was to create another folder: Runtime/MAC OS X/Universal/EXTERNALS/DATABASE DRIVERS And put dbvalentina2 and database drivers.txt into that one (one level deeper as v4rev.bundle) right BUT this one isn't recognized by the standalone builder. That was my main question in my last posting: How should Rev find the dbvalentina2 bundle in the database drivers folder? See my last posting! I already have answer: * Because Revolution SEARCHES for this /External/Database Driver folder. I see you use UPPER CASE, although for Windows this should not matter. In fact case is shown in my lines. --- P.S. MAKE SURE that in Standalone Settings dialog you point app to be UNIVERSAL ! Yes I checked it - Otherwise it wouldn't actually work with the Runtime/MAC OS X/Universal/EXTERNALS/V4REV.bundle Good. I think this where can be a mistake on your side. I would be glad if you would find a mistake on my side! I try. :) I think we need switch off list because we have bomb both lists today. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OS X Application icon corrupted by V3 standalone maker?
Hi Phil, I have seen this happen several times. Particularly cases where the icon file was completely empty. Somehow, it hasn't happened again lately. I'd make sure that you have the latest build of Revolution and set the path to the icon file again in the standalone builder settings. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Dutch forum: http://runrev.info/rrforum/ Benefit from our inexpensive hosting services. See http://economy-x-talk.com/server.html for more info. On 25 sep 2008, at 10:48, Phil Jimmieson wrote: Hi folks, I've just started using Rev version 3 (with GLX2) to make standalones for OS X and Windows, and noticed that on OS X my custom application icon didn't appear. At first I thought it was the usual lazy Finder scenario where you had to zip and unzip the file or one of the other magic invocations to get the icon recognised, but nothing worked. I then opened up the App package and found that the Revolution.icns file which contains the icon for the App would not open with Preview - it reported the file as being damaged or in the wrong format. Checking with an App created with Rev 2.9, the same icns file there opens ok. My source custom icns file opens ok so it looks like something is corrupting it when its being copied into the package. Has anyone else seen this? As a workaround, I've copied my custom icns file by hand and replaced the corrupted one in the package (and that works ok), but if the standalone maker is corrupting it I will report it as a bug. -- Phil Jimmieson [EMAIL PROTECTED] (UK) 0151 795 4236 (Mobile) 07976 983164 Computer Science Dept., Liverpool University, Ashton Building, Ashton Street Liverpool L69 3BX http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~phil/ I used to sit on a special medical board... ...but now I use this ointment. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: script abbreviations
That secret trick improves the dictionary greatly. Thanks ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: iPhone again
Peter, I've experience in quite a few languages, and I have to say, I too find Obj-C a bit hard to swallow. I even prefer smalltalk to Obj C. However, whilst I'll sidestep the possibility of running a Rev app on the iPhone, can I just ask you if you are aware of the problems with iPhone distribution? Apple has pulled the plug on some apps because it doesn't like them (for various reasons). I certainly would not want any app I spend time developing to have to live or die by the whim of Steve Jobs (or more likely, a Steve Jobs wannabe). If you are not planning to deliver your iPhone app through Apple, then this thought is probably of no import. However, you might be better addressing Apple and asking them if there is the possibility of writing an application for the iPhone that is not a web app and is not written in Obj-C. Bernard On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Peter Bower, M.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I've read through all the prior iPhone discussions in the archive. Is it true, really for certain, absolutely no way what-so-ever, don't even bother to think about it, to somehow run rev on an iPhone? Objective C is the least friendly obtuse head ache inducing programming I have ever encountered. Peter J. Bower, M.D. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: iPhone again
Given that there's no way of distributing iPhone apps other than through Apple (apart from the tiny minority of users with jailbroken iPhones), it's a relatively important thought. Ian On 10 Oct 2008, at 20:21, Bernard Devlin wrote: If you are not planning to deliver your iPhone app through Apple, then this thought is probably of no import. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: iPhone again
On Oct 10, 2008, at 3:21 PM, Bernard Devlin wrote: However, you might be better addressing Apple and asking them if there is the possibility of writing an application for the iPhone that is not a web app and is not written in Obj-C. The approach that the Unity guys have taken is that their iPhone toolkit exports out to an XCode project, which you then just build to the iPhone. I imagine that the majority of what is in the project is the 3D engine, and your custom bits are a small part of it. A similar thing ought to be possible with Rev and other tools, but I'm sure it's quite a bit of work to make the XCode project version of the main application (Rev in this case). As for App Store considerations, a lot of people use tools like Rev for making things for themselves. You can publish iPhone apps to your own iPhone without having to get it approved by Apple. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: iPhone again
I've experience in quite a few languages, and I have to say, I too find Obj-C a bit hard to swallow. I even prefer smalltalk to Obj C. I believe that now the iPhone Developer's NDA has been relaxed, we should start to see more tutorials appear. However, whilst I'll sidestep the possibility of running a Rev app on the iPhone, can I just ask you if you are aware of the problems with iPhone distribution? Apple has pulled the plug on some apps because it doesn't like them (for various reasons). I certainly would not want any app I spend time developing to have to live or die by the whim of Steve Jobs (or more likely, a Steve Jobs wannabe). If you actually read all the info about the relatively few cases where this has happened, it becomes clear that the pulled apps really were in breach of the iPhone developer agreement. There are now thousands of iPhone apps available with millions of downloads. Don't get scared off because a handful have been rejected, just read the agreement again and work out whether your planned app would contravene any of the clauses. If you are not planning to deliver your iPhone app through Apple, then this thought is probably of no import. While this is very useful for in-house apps which will be used by fewer than 100 people, it doesn't work if you want wide distribution. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: iPhone again
Sorry to disagree with you Sarah, but that just is not the case. There are a number of apps which have been rejected for various reasons with extremely lame excuses. John Gruber, a very PRO-APPLE guy, has an interesting write-up on the situation. http://daringfireball.net/2008/09/app_store_exclusion On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 6:05 PM, Sarah Reichelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you actually read all the info about the relatively few cases where this has happened, it becomes clear that the pulled apps really were in breach of the iPhone developer agreement. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Great Article by Judy Perry on Rev in Ed in RevUp Newsletter
Congrats to Judy Perry on her inspiring article in the new RevUp Newsletter on Rev in Education! Really nice to see how Rev can help young minds grow Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How does RunRev finds externals when building the standalone?
I executed the install.rev on my Win and it ran whatever it did :) But not on MAC. S. How should I run installer.rev, when not having a Mac licence for RunRev? You could try using StackRunner, which is a free player app for all platforms: http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads/StackRunner.htm Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: iPhone again
As I read Gruber's article, his main point is that the policy is wrong, not that the pulled app was in contravention of the current agreement. However I do think a pre-approval mechanism would be beneficial. And please don't apologize for disagreeing with me. If we can't have a reasonable courteous debate on this list, then I would be very sorry :-) Cheers, Sarah On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Chipp Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry to disagree with you Sarah, but that just is not the case. There are a number of apps which have been rejected for various reasons with extremely lame excuses. John Gruber, a very PRO-APPLE guy, has an interesting write-up on the situation. http://daringfireball.net/2008/09/app_store_exclusion On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 6:05 PM, Sarah Reichelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you actually read all the info about the relatively few cases where this has happened, it becomes clear that the pulled apps really were in breach of the iPhone developer agreement. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
