Linux Distro choices [was: Ubuntu...etc]
Of course its a thorny issue, and it depends what you want, who you are, and what your machine is. I don't think you lose anything by moving from Ubuntu. Like many other long term Linux users, I'm a bit baffled by its popularity. On old machines try Zenwalk (slackware based and uses Xfce). If this is still too slow, try a minimal Debian with fluxbox as the WM. If this is too slow, Puppy. If you want to learn, really learn, Linux, but do not have unlimited time and energy to do it (if you do, Linux from Scratch is the one), get Slackware and study the user guide. If you are an active user, but don't like the command line, and speed of machine is not an issue, Mandriva. If you can manage with the slightly reduced package selection in its repositories, PCLinux is also a sensible choice. Mandriva is larger and better resourced, PCL is a bit of a one man band, but a very good community. Its derived from Mandriva. But be prepared in both cases to do a new install when you want to upgrade, which will probably be every couple of years or so. Do not install Mandriva 2009 if you want to use KDE. In that case use 2008.1 And use the ONE version, not the FREE version. If you are ready to use the command line for administration, value stability, dislike doing full installations for system upgrades, don't require exhaustive and up to date user documentation, and are not all that bothered about having the latest versions of everything, Debian Stable. At the moment that means Etch and not Lenny. This is also a good choice for the lay user who just wants an appliance for email, web, office, if you are going to maintain it for them. But do not give Debian to an enterprising but relatively non-technical user - what they try to do will involve more than they bargained for. For them, Mandriva or PCL will be a lot better. You should use the 386 not the 64 bit version of Debian, unless you really need to address the extra memory. My own strategy with Debian has been, stay with Stable until Testing has been in the field for a year or so, and is on RC1 or RC2. Then move to Testing. I've had some problems however lately installing the latest build of Lenny, which suggest rather that the smart thing is probably to stay with Stable all the time. I used to install Mandriva for naive users because it was easier to administer, but then discovered that administering it was the last thing they had in mind! Its hard to judge from people's posts, so it would be a hard choice, but tentatively, for you, I'd go to Mandriva One 2008.1, KDE version. Or PCL. You can try Mandriva out as a live CD first. But in the end, for the committed, Debian is where we end up, and if you stick with Linux, you'll end up there too. Its just a question of when. One day you wake up, look at your machine, and you know this is the time to go to Debian. Debian or Mandriva will do equally well on laptops. Mikey-3 wrote: OK, to sum, we have a couple of opinions on a client distro. Do we have a recommendation on Debian vs. Mandriva? This is a lappie. What am I giving up by punting on Ubuntu? -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/-OT--Ubuntu-8.10%3A-headaches-and-nothing-else.-tp20870256p20910826.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Happy Birthday.... My Little Mouse
May we all light a candle today and remember Doug Engelbart! (You know, I'm always a little horrified when my CS students don't even know who he is/was...). Judy http://revined.blogspot.com On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 2:22 AM, Bob Hartley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All The Mouse is 40 today... :-) Happy Birthday. :-) see it here http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7768481.stm Cheers Bob ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Happy Birthday.... My Little Mouse
Hi All The Mouse is 40 today... :-) Happy Birthday. :-) see it here http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7768481.stm Cheers Bob ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Linux Distro choices [was: Ubuntu...etc]
Peter Alcibiades wrote: Of course its a thorny issue, and it depends what you want, who you are, and what your machine is. I don't think you lose anything by moving from Ubuntu. Like many other long term Linux users, I'm a bit baffled by its popularity. I totally agree with what Peter has written. However, I have a couple of chip in's. I too never understood the popularity of Ubuntu. On old machines try Zenwalk (slackware based and uses Xfce). If this is still too slow, try a minimal Debian with fluxbox as the WM. If this is too slow, Puppy. On older machines or even new one's where you want speed try Vectorlinux. A new V 6 is out soon. If you want to learn, really learn, Linux, but do not have unlimited time and energy to do it (if you do, Linux from Scratch is the one), get Slackware and study the user guide. Vector is Slacky based If you are an active user, but don't like the command line, and speed of machine is not an issue, Mandriva. If you can manage with the slightly reduced package selection in its repositories, PCLinux is also a sensible choice. Mandriva is larger and better resourced, PCL is a bit of a one man band, but a very good community. Its derived from Mandriva. But be prepared in both cases to do a new install when you want to upgrade, which will probably be every couple of years or so. Do not install Mandriva 2009 if you want to use KDE. In that case use 2008.1 And use the ONE version, not the FREE version. if you download flv's from youtube (I do) then 2008.1 with KDE and Kaffeine is ideal. I moved to 2009 and kaffeine is sound only. Need to sort that one. If you want to your base machine on 2009 then use nxserver and SSH. Indeed when you get more proficient you will end up getting your desktop via NXclient-server rather than the normal way (long story). Another alternative (and slightly behind the times in kernel etc) is Xandros. It just works out of the box for... well just about everythign. But you got to pay. For them, Mandriva or PCL will be a lot better. You should use the 386 not the 64 bit version of Debian, unless you really need to address the extra memory. PCLinuxOS is very good indeed. My own strategy with Debian has been, stay with Stable until Testing has been in the field for a year or so, and is on RC1 or RC2. Then move to Testing. I've had some problems however lately installing the latest build of Lenny, which suggest rather that the smart thing is probably to stay with Stable all the time. I used to install Mandriva for naive users because it was easier to administer, but then discovered that administering it was the last thing they had in mind! Mandriva can be a pain when you get tinto the nuitty gritty, but out of the box on this corporate network... It detected everything out of the box (or should that be CD). Much easier that windows. PS I'm not slagging windows. Unlike many Linux users I think windows is a good OS. Its hard to judge from people's posts, so it would be a hard choice, but tentatively, for you, I'd go to Mandriva One 2008.1, KDE version. Or PCL. You can try Mandriva out as a live CD first. But in the end, for the committed, Debian is where we end up, and if you stick with Linux, you'll end up there too. Its just a question of when. One day you wake up, look at your machine, and you know this is the time to go to Debian. Debian or Mandriva will do equally well on laptops. I aggree. One thing about Ubuntu. As it tries to become a jack of all trades it is becoming slower. I see that Vector LInux 6 has a new setup and new wifi setup. (wifi drove me away from it to Xandros back in the old days) so give it a try. It is really fast. If it don't work then try Mandriva. Cheers Bob ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
How to set the cursor at the end of a textfield
Hi! How can I set the cursor to the end of the text in a field. with focus fld text the cursor is placed a the start of the text in the fld. Thanks Reinhold ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to set the cursor at the end of a textfield
Bonjour Reinhold, Select after text of fld MyField Le 9 déc. 08 à 15:38, Reinhold Venzl-Schubert a écrit : How can I set the cursor to the end of the text in a field. with focus fld text the cursor is placed a the start of the text in the fld. Best regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. Plugins and tutorials for Revolution: http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Linux Distro choices [was: Ubuntu...etc]
Thanks, guys. I'll add an extra partition or two. I had given up on Mandrake, so I guess I'll give it another shot. As for KDE, like Mandrake, I never liked it, so I gave up on it and went Gnome full time. It will probably take more work to convince me to go back to that window environment. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Linux Distro choices [was: Ubuntu...etc]
Yes, agreed on Vector. Its a very worthy reasonably light alternative that comes in a few flavors, has been around for a good while, and has a decent set of gui tools. Vector and Zenwalk being Slackware based may sometimes be less easy to manage software on than Mandriva or other RPM based distros - dependencies may sometimes become an issue - and this is one of the things that all apt- based distros do best of all. But then, there are other things they do less well. Slackware based distros like Vector are, as Bob notes, usually fastest. You can't win them all. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/-OT--Ubuntu-8.10%3A-headaches-and-nothing-else.-tp20870256p20916661.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Menu Key Accelerators
By the way, is anyone else STILL experiencing the 'accelerator keys' problem in Rev in the IDE? You know, typing command-something and not have it happen unless you go to the actual menubar or do it several times. This was reported to be fixed but it's still the same for me in 3.0, 3.5 -- Mac Leopard 10.5.5, I don't trust the a-keys in Rev at all. I always have repeat. and always look at the bar to see it flash. At 12:45 PM -0600 12/8/08, J. Landman Gay wrote: I'm apparently not running on all cylinders today. My copy/paste didn't. Here's a corrected version, after which I think I'll bow out gracefully for today: -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Linux Distro choices [was: Ubuntu...etc]
Well at one point I considered 'fooling around' with Linux. Not anymore. I don't have that much time to fiddle. What a tower of Babel. Peter Alcibiades wrote: Of course its a thorny issue, and it depends what you want, who you are, and what your machine is. I don't think you lose anything by moving from Ubuntu. Like many other long term Linux users, I'm a bit baffled by its popularity. I totally agree with what Peter has written. However, I have a couple of chip in's. I too never understood the popularity of Ubuntu. On old machines try Zenwalk (slackware based and uses Xfce). If this is still too slow, try a minimal Debian with fluxbox as the WM. If this is too slow, Puppy. -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Menu Key Accelerators
Hi Stephen, In the script editor's menu bar, none of the accelerator keys work for me, except command-dash, to comment out lines (shift-command-dash doesn't work either). Even if the menu flashes, nothing else happens. In the default menu bar, the accelerator keys work most of the time in Rev 3.0. (I don't think we're supposed to discuss 3.5 on this list). AcceleratorKeys for objects, other than menus, don't work in Mac OS X and I am not sure that they are supposed to work, even though the docs don't mention that they don't. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Dutch forum: http://runrev.info/rrforum We are always looking for new projects! Feel free to contact us to discuss your custom software project! On 9 dec 2008, at 17:17, Stephen Barncard wrote: By the way, is anyone else STILL experiencing the 'accelerator keys' problem in Rev in the IDE? You know, typing command-something and not have it happen unless you go to the actual menubar or do it several times. This was reported to be fixed but it's still the same for me in 3.0, 3.5 -- Mac Leopard 10.5.5, I don't trust the a-keys in Rev at all. I always have repeat. and always look at the bar to see it flash. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Linux Distro choices [was: Ubuntu...etc]
Stephen Barncard wrote: Well at one point I considered 'fooling around' with Linux. Not anymore. I don't have that much time to fiddle. What a tower of Babel. Exactly... (I'm about to commit heresy) A computer is a tool. I used an ARM Rics Machine for my degree work in 1995 it was the best tool with a custom bit of SW. A wallstreet with MacOS8.5 for my PhD Windows for my next job then Windows and Now a 4 core Powermac. All the best tools for the job. I use linux for desktop work because it doesn't crash as much as XP (well at all). I use Mandriva for ease of use. Once a month I go back to windows for one file for 30 mins work then back to linux for a smooth day to day OS most of the time I work away uninterupted. That is why I use Mandriva at work. I dont get paid to mess around. It is all horses for courses. :-) Cheers Bob ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Menu Key Accelerators
I am using 2.9 and the good old script editor on Leopard 10.5.5 Copy-paste seems to work all the time which was not true of 2.7.2 however, there is consistently a mode that occurs throughout the day where the cmd-S for Save will not work unless I activate the stack window first. Also intermittent is the unhilighted 'Apply' button after editing code. Fix: I simply add a space at the end of a script line and it becomes active again. I would expect these would have been fixed in 3.0+ so my post is more of a curiosity. My workaround used to be Menu Key where I setup control-C and control-V as alternatives to using cmd-C and V when using the script editor. This info might be helpful to someone out there. Jim Ault Las Vegas On 12/9/08 8:17 AM, Stephen Barncard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By the way, is anyone else STILL experiencing the 'accelerator keys' problem in Rev in the IDE? You know, typing command-something and not have it happen unless you go to the actual menubar or do it several times. This was reported to be fixed but it's still the same for me in 3.0, 3.5 -- Mac Leopard 10.5.5, I don't trust the a-keys in Rev at all. I always have repeat. and always look at the bar to see it flash. At 12:45 PM -0600 12/8/08, J. Landman Gay wrote: I'm apparently not running on all cylinders today. My copy/paste didn't. Here's a corrected version, after which I think I'll bow out gracefully for today: ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Linux Distro choices [was: Ubuntu...etc]
Stephen, you might as well write, that at one point you considered fooling around with programming, but there were too many languages to choose from. Its pretty simple, just pick any one of Bob's and my mainline choices, install it, and use it. You'll have a different experience from Windows or Mac, with different issues, but it will be no more complicated and no more a Tower of Babel than with them. Whichever you pick will work. Remember, when we are offering advice to Mikey, its to a guy who already is doing multi boot with various Linux distros, and is interested in the subject. We'd take a rather different approach for someone who just wanted a computer running Linux to work on. I don't suppose the people I install it for even know there is such a thing as a distribution, and why should they? Peter Stephen Barncard-4 wrote: Well at one point I considered 'fooling around' with Linux. Not anymore. I don't have that much time to fiddle. What a tower of Babel. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/-OT--Ubuntu-8.10%3A-headaches-and-nothing-else.-tp20870256p20919603.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Linux Distro choices [was: Ubuntu...etc]
One word: Compiz. Expose is but a dim shadow in its presence. I now love virtual desktops. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to set the cursor at the end of a textfield
Merci beaucoup, Eric! J'ai utilisè put after fld text mais Select after text of fld MyField est tres plus élégamment. :-) Reinhold How can I set the cursor to the end of the text in a field. with focus fld text the cursor is placed a the start of the text in the fld. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to set the cursor at the end of a textfield
Bonsoir Reinhold, Your French is as good as my English :-) The main thing is that we are all able to understand each others and to help if we can. Le 9 déc. 08 à 19:26, Reinhold Venzl-Schubert a écrit : Merci beaucoup, Eric! J'ai utilisè put after fld text mais Select after text of fld MyField est tres plus élégamment. :-) Reinhold Best regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. Plugins and tutorials for Revolution: http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Getting the Serial Number of the User's computer
How can I retrieve the computer serial number in OS X, Vista and Linux from Rev? Thanks in advance, I appreciate it. Paul Looney ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Getting the Serial Number of the User's computer
Never personally used it in anger, but in Linux its dmidecode. http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2008/11/how-to-get-hardware-information-on-linux-using-dmidecode-command/ Peter Paul Looney wrote: How can I retrieve the computer serial number in OS X, Vista and Linux from Rev? Thanks in advance, I appreciate it. Paul Looney ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Getting-the-Serial-Number-of-the-User%27s-computer-tp20921219p20921793.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: variable storage
François- Monday, December 8, 2008, 12:07:35 PM, you wrote: that's a big if. I assume that the purpose of an object's ID is to be unique. This cannot be verified by a single user, IMHO. The closest To add to what Bjornke posted, if I delete a button and then want to recreate it (as in a version control storage and retrieval system), then there is *no way* to reuse its previous id in that stack. The id number is lost to history. The only workaround for this is too ugly to discuss in mixed company. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Menu Key Accelerators
Stephen- Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 8:17:46 AM, you wrote: By the way, is anyone else STILL experiencing the 'accelerator keys' You betcha. Copy seems to work as long as I've previously made a change to a script. Most of the time. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Getting the Serial Number of the User's computer
Thank you, Peter. One down, two to go. Paul Looney On Dec 9, 2008, at 11:33 AM, Peter Alcibiades wrote: Never personally used it in anger, but in Linux its dmidecode. http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2008/11/how-to-get-hardware-information- on-linux-using-dmidecode-command/ Peter Paul Looney wrote: How can I retrieve the computer serial number in OS X, Vista and Linux from Rev? Thanks in advance, I appreciate it. Paul Looney ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Getting-the- Serial-Number-of-the-User%27s-computer-tp20921219p20921793.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Ugly ID memories
In a message dated 12/9/08 3:08:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: To add to what Bjornke posted, if I delete a button and then want to recreate it (as in a version control storage and retrieval system), then there is *no way* to reuse its previous id in that stack. The id number is lost to history. The only workaround for this is too ugly to discuss in mixed company. There was a corollary debate in HC years back; whether the id should be a settable property. It was decided (very) on high that it would not be. The reasons are lost in time, but I recall it was felt that id's were not intended to be indexed, and that as permanent and unique as they were, id's also needed to die off completely if the object was deleted. A tribute, in fact, to their very uniqueness. In no way linkable, by design, to any remaining or future objects. And I would love to talk about a workaround. Perhaps remember the old id, linking it via a look-up table to some other object? But as before, nobody could think of a good reason to do so, that is, there was no value in knowing that a deleted id was either linked to or owned by any other object. Numbers were cheap back in those days, and the simple fact that every object had a unique one was considered more than sufficient. ** Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpamp;icid=aolcom40vanityamp;ncid=emlcntaolcom0010) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[ANN} Zygodact - complete serial key registration system
Although there was a brief mention of Zygodact here on the list, I've been informed that I should make a more formal announcement. They made me do it. :) So without further ado, I present Zygodact. Zygodact provides an easy, automated way to add a complete registration serial key system to your Revolution standalone application or stack. With only a single line of code, Zygodact will check to see whether your application has been registered with a valid serial key. If not, it displays a dialog requesting a user ID and registration key. If your user cannot provide a valid registration, Zygodact gracefully shuts down your software, disallowing access. Zygodact does all the work for you. It generates any number of customer serial keys for your application, and handles every aspect of requesting and tracking a valid software registration on your user’s computer. It does this by creating a matched set of stacks: a registration dialog and a serial key generator, and optionally, a CGI stack for use on a server. Every set of stacks is unique, and the registration dialog and key generator you produce will never match any others. This gives you the security of knowing that other developers who use Zygodact can never generate the same serial keys and registration data as yours. Each serial key is based on your user's name, or a user ID, or any other data you choose. Once registered, your software is tied to the user's computer, which means no one can copy your application to another machine without invalidating the registration. For developers who may be concerned about users sharing their registration keys, Zygodact also returns registration information to your scripts, for use with an online validation or tracking database. With Zygodact you get: - One-click generation of a unique registration substack and serial key generator - Optional CGI stack and sample Revolution script for server use - Complete registration management with only a single line of script - Fully customizable registration dialog, so you can add your own logo and look and feel - The option to use your own software's preferences stack, or just let Zygodact create one for you without any scripting - Complete documentation with sample scripts, conveniently accessible from the Help menu - Serial key generation either individually or in bulk to produce any number of keys with one click A Zygodact installation can be set up in minutes with three simple steps: 1. Generate a unique set of stacks with one click. 2. Make the registration stack a substack of your main stack. 3. Add one line of script to your main stack. That's it. Everything else is taken care of for you. The Zygodact application is available for both Mac OS X and Windows. The stacks it generates for use in your project can be used with any platform Revolution supports, including Linux. Zygodact can be purchased at the Runtime Revolution store https://secure.runrev.com/products/related-software/zygodact/, and is also featured as part of the Megabundle deal currently available until January 16. Zygodactl: A toe arrangement in perching birds where digits 1 and 4 are reversed. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Getting the Serial Number of the User's computer
How can I retrieve the computer serial number in OS X, Vista and Linux from Rev? Here's what I have, Paul... for OS X it can take a while (a few seconds) to get the number on OS X (since it has to go through a series of different system_profiler data types), but it works (watch for wraps): function stsGetSerialNumber pWinDriveLetter local tID switch (the platform) case MacOS put shell(system_profiler SPHardwareDataType) into tData put matchText(tData,(?s)Serial Number:\W*(.*?)\n,tID) into tIsMatch break case Win32 if pWinDriveLetter = then put C: into tDriveLetter else put pWinDriveLetter into tDriveLetter if length(tDriveLetter) = 1 then put : after tDriveLetter set the hideConsoleWindows to true if the shellCommand command.com then put shell(tDriveLetter dir) into tData else put c:\temp.bat into tBatPath put tDriveLetter cr dir into url (file: tBatPath) put shell(start tBatPath) into tData delete file tBatPath end if put matchText(tData,(?s)Serial Number is\W*(.*?)\n,tID) into tIsMatch break end switch if tIsMatch then return tID else return STSError: Can't locate serial number. end if end stsGetSerialNumber Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Getting the Serial Number of the User's computer
Paul Looney wrote: Thank you, Peter. One down, two to go. This may be of use: http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/tips/env001.htm Ken knows everything. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Getting the Serial Number of the User's computer
Ken, It worked perfectly, of course. Thank you. Paul Looney On Dec 9, 2008, at 2:06 PM, Ken Ray wrote: How can I retrieve the computer serial number in OS X, Vista and Linux from Rev? Here's what I have, Paul... for OS X it can take a while (a few seconds) to get the number on OS X (since it has to go through a series of different system_profiler data types), but it works (watch for wraps): function stsGetSerialNumber pWinDriveLetter local tID switch (the platform) case MacOS put shell(system_profiler SPHardwareDataType) into tData put matchText(tData,(?s)Serial Number:\W*(.*?)\n,tID) into tIsMatch break case Win32 if pWinDriveLetter = then put C: into tDriveLetter else put pWinDriveLetter into tDriveLetter if length(tDriveLetter) = 1 then put : after tDriveLetter set the hideConsoleWindows to true if the shellCommand command.com then put shell(tDriveLetter dir) into tData else put c:\temp.bat into tBatPath put tDriveLetter cr dir into url (file: tBatPath) put shell(start tBatPath) into tData delete file tBatPath end if put matchText(tData,(?s)Serial Number is\W*(.*?)\n,tID) into tIsMatch break end switch if tIsMatch then return tID else return STSError: Can't locate serial number. end if end stsGetSerialNumber Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Getting the Serial Number of the User's computer
Jacque, Ken really does know everything! He had actually replied before you suggest his site. Of course, YOU know everything, too. Those of us second tier programmers on this list are very fortunate to have both of you helping us. Paul Looney On Dec 9, 2008, at 2:07 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Paul Looney wrote: Thank you, Peter. One down, two to go. This may be of use: http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/ tips/env001.htm Ken knows everything. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN} Zygodact - complete serial key registration system
Bonsoir Jacqueline, Sounds great but I miss something: How and why are you tied with Zygodact? Le 9 déc. 08 à 23:05, J. Landman Gay a écrit : Although there was a brief mention of Zygodact here on the list, I've been informed that I should make a more formal announcement. They made me do it. :) So without further ado, I present Zygodact. Zygodact provides an easy, automated way to add a complete registration serial key system to your Revolution standalone application or stack. With only a single line of code, Zygodact will check to see whether your application has been registered with a valid serial key. If not, it displays a dialog requesting a user ID and registration key. If your user cannot provide a valid registration, Zygodact gracefully shuts down your software, disallowing access. Zygodact does all the work for you. It generates any number of customer serial keys for your application, and handles every aspect of requesting and tracking a valid software registration on your user’s computer. It does this by creating a matched set of stacks: a registration dialog and a serial key generator, and optionally, a CGI stack for use on a server. Every set of stacks is unique, and the registration dialog and key generator you produce will never match any others. This gives you the security of knowing that other developers who use Zygodact can never generate the same serial keys and registration data as yours. Each serial key is based on your user's name, or a user ID, or any other data you choose. Once registered, your software is tied to the user's computer, which means no one can copy your application to another machine without invalidating the registration. For developers who may be concerned about users sharing their registration keys, Zygodact also returns registration information to your scripts, for use with an online validation or tracking database. With Zygodact you get: - One-click generation of a unique registration substack and serial key generator - Optional CGI stack and sample Revolution script for server use - Complete registration management with only a single line of script - Fully customizable registration dialog, so you can add your own logo and look and feel - The option to use your own software's preferences stack, or just let Zygodact create one for you without any scripting - Complete documentation with sample scripts, conveniently accessible from the Help menu - Serial key generation either individually or in bulk to produce any number of keys with one click A Zygodact installation can be set up in minutes with three simple steps: 1. Generate a unique set of stacks with one click. 2. Make the registration stack a substack of your main stack. 3. Add one line of script to your main stack. That's it. Everything else is taken care of for you. The Zygodact application is available for both Mac OS X and Windows. The stacks it generates for use in your project can be used with any platform Revolution supports, including Linux. Zygodact can be purchased at the Runtime Revolution store https:// secure.runrev.com/products/related-software/zygodact/, and is also featured as part of the Megabundle deal currently available until January 16. Zygodactl: A toe arrangement in perching birds where digits 1 and 4 are reversed. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com Best regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. Plugins and tutorials for Revolution: http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Announcing Revolution - The Canine Edition
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Re: Ugly ID memories
Object ID's are simply a way for the software to uniquely identify an object. That the ID is made visible to the programmer seems to me to be a convenience. Since you can refer to an object by name anyway, there really is no hard fast reason to refer to it by it's ID. It would be like deleting a user profile in Windows, then creating another and giving it the same ID. Hey, actually that would be cool! But I digress. Bob Sneidar IT Manager Logos Management Calvary Chapel CM On Dec 9, 2008, at 2:01 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 12/9/08 3:08:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: To add to what Bjornke posted, if I delete a button and then want to recreate it (as in a version control storage and retrieval system), then there is *no way* to reuse its previous id in that stack. The id number is lost to history. The only workaround for this is too ugly to discuss in mixed company. There was a corollary debate in HC years back; whether the id should be a settable property. It was decided (very) on high that it would not be. The reasons are lost in time, but I recall it was felt that id's were not intended to be indexed, and that as permanent and unique as they were, id's also needed to die off completely if the object was deleted. A tribute, in fact, to their very uniqueness. In no way linkable, by design, to any remaining or future objects. And I would love to talk about a workaround. Perhaps remember the old id, linking it via a look-up table to some other object? But as before, nobody could think of a good reason to do so, that is, there was no value in knowing that a deleted id was either linked to or owned by any other object. Numbers were cheap back in those days, and the simple fact that every object had a unique one was considered more than sufficient. ** Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpamp;icid=aolcom40vanityamp;ncid=emlcntaolcom0010 ) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN} Zygodact - complete serial key registration system
Eric Chatonet wrote: Bonsoir Jacqueline, Sounds great but I miss something: How and why are you tied with Zygodact? I wrote it. :) HyperActive Software has joined the RevSelect program and sells Zygodact via the RR online store. I guess I forgot to mention that part. I should have put my URL in there too: http://www.hyperactivesw.com/Products/zygodact.html I'm really no good with this marketing business. But the software works. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Getting the Serial Number of the User's computer
Never personally used it in anger, but in Linux its dmidecode. http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2008/11/how-to-get-hardware-information-on-linux-u sing-dmidecode-command/ It seems you can get it by doing dmidecode -t 1, but it requires permission, so you would need to sudo and provide a password to get it. The way you do *that*, is (assumes the password is in the variable tPwd): put #!/bin/sh cr into tScript put pw= quote tPwd quote cr after tScript put echo $pw | sudo -S dmidecode -t 1 tPID cr after tScript put shell(tScript) into tResult -- Then parse tResult looking for Serial Number: But given the many Linux distros, would it be safe to say that this may not work on all distros? I know it doesn't work in a virtual device (when I do this under VMWare, I don't get any System Information - I get HDIO_GET_IDENTITY failed), but would it work for the most common distros? Just curious... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Ugly ID memories
In a message dated 12/9/08 6:06:08 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Object ID's are simply a way for the software to uniquely identify an object. That the ID is made visible to the programmer seems to me to be a convenience. Since you can refer to an object by name anyway, there really is no hard fast reason to refer to it by it's ID. It would be like deleting a user profile in Windows, then creating another and giving it the same ID. Hey, actually that would be cool! But I digress. I have used that feature here and there; it is useful to have an object property that never changes regardless of name or number or whatever else that can. And do. It is a good thing, and I agreed, way back when, it should not be settable. It would have been just another number, then. ** Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpamp;icid=aolcom40vanityamp; ncid=emlcntaolcom0010) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Show Globals
Hi everyone. Am I the only one for whom the script editor on 3.0 is glacially slow? It is almost impossible at times to code, especially when I have lots of huge globals loaded. For that matter, in Preferences, it seems that checking or unchecking Show Globals in the Script Editor area makes no difference. I still see all of my globals (as well as $User and other $ variables) listed. Simply comparing 2 variables if they start with say A and Z can take 20 seconds or more. Stepping through scripts is also unbelievably slow. All of this wouldn't be so bad if the variables were not locked underneath the script so that the variable list by definition must be short requiring lots of scrolling up and down. Are there any workarounds? For example: - Is it possible for example to truly not see globals that are not referred to in a particular script? - Is it possible to have Revolution use the old style script editor? (I notice that the present script editor is called revNewScriptEditor which implies an element of experimentation.) - Is it possible to drag the Variable list away from the window? Incidentally, I noticed when starting to report a bug today, I saw that one of the choices was Revolution 3.5.0 Is there a new version available?? Thanks Fred Moyer ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Show Globals
A couple comments about global variables and variable watcher. 1) I am using 2.9 so I don't see the 'slow' behavior 2) I prefix all my globals with 'z' and my script locals with 'x' so that they sort to the bottom of the watcher window. 3) you can use the 'page up' ' page down' keys to jump after you have clicked somewhere on the variable watcher window, although slow scrolling may still occur. 4) if you don't need to see the contents of the globals during debugging, why not try using custom properties? This works more easily if you are always using one main stack and one property set but may not change the slow performance. Hope this gives you and idea or two. Jim Ault Las Vegas On 12/9/08 4:07 PM, Fred moyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone. Am I the only one for whom the script editor on 3.0 is glacially slow? It is almost impossible at times to code, especially when I have lots of huge globals loaded. For that matter, in Preferences, it seems that checking or unchecking Show Globals in the Script Editor area makes no difference. I still see all of my globals (as well as $User and other $ variables) listed. Simply comparing 2 variables if they start with say A and Z can take 20 seconds or more. Stepping through scripts is also unbelievably slow. All of this wouldn't be so bad if the variables were not locked underneath the script so that the variable list by definition must be short requiring lots of scrolling up and down. Are there any workarounds? For example: - Is it possible for example to truly not see globals that are not referred to in a particular script? - Is it possible to have Revolution use the old style script editor? (I notice that the present script editor is called revNewScriptEditor which implies an element of experimentation.) - Is it possible to drag the Variable list away from the window? Incidentally, I noticed when starting to report a bug today, I saw that one of the choices was Revolution 3.5.0 Is there a new version available?? Thanks Fred Moyer ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Ugly ID memories
Any problems using the altID property? Since IDs increment for each object created, if restoring an object setting the altID should avoid any conflict with existing or new objects. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Revolution training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Show Globals
Fred moyer wrote: Hi everyone. Am I the only one for whom the script editor on 3.0 is glacially slow? It is almost impossible at times to code, especially when I have lots of huge globals loaded. I don't see any slowdown particularly. Do you have enough RAM? I'm just guessing, but maybe Rev is having to swap memory out to disk a lot if there are a lot of big globals. You could test this by opening a stack that uses no globals and try debugging it. If it's snappy, then there may be a memory issue with the other stacks. Huge globals will deplete available RAM pretty quickly. If there is any other way to store those values, do it. It is easy to use up nearly all available memory if you open a few stacks and each one loads a big global variable and never removes it. If there is no other way to store these values, then put empty into the globals when they aren't needed any more, or delete them entirely. For that matter, in Preferences, it seems that checking or unchecking Show Globals in the Script Editor area makes no difference. I still see all of my globals (as well as $User and other $ variables) listed. Simply comparing 2 variables if they start with say A and Z can take 20 seconds or more. Unchecking show globals works okay here. You could also try unchecking Revolution UI elements appear in lists. That should remove the gRev-whatevers at least. Stepping through scripts is also unbelievably slow. I see a very brief pause, but that's built into the debugger on purpose so you can see what's happening. It feels fine to me. A major slowdown might be related to the same RAM issue though, I'd try testing with a simple, no-globals stack and see if the speed picks up. All of this wouldn't be so bad if the variables were not locked underneath the script so that the variable list by definition must be short requiring lots of scrolling up and down. Are there any workarounds? For example: - Is it possible for example to truly not see globals that are not referred to in a particular script? - Is it possible to have Revolution use the old style script editor? (I notice that the present script editor is called revNewScriptEditor which implies an element of experimentation.) - Is it possible to drag the Variable list away from the window? None of this is possible yet. I want the same things. The variable watcher is too small for me to see comfortably. There is a request in the QCC with all these suggestions and more. Incidentally, I noticed when starting to report a bug today, I saw that one of the choices was Revolution 3.5.0 Is there a new version available?? Not yet. I think they're probably just numbering ahead. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Show Globals
The script editor is just fine as long as you don't need to debug anything complex. Once you've got more than a few variables, and particularly if these include multidimensional arrays it bogs down horribly. It needs some attention I reckon! Terry... On 10/12/08 4:03 PM, J. Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fred moyer wrote: Hi everyone. Am I the only one for whom the script editor on 3.0 is glacially slow? It is almost impossible at times to code, especially when I have lots of huge globals loaded. I don't see any slowdown particularly. Do you have enough RAM? I'm just guessing, but maybe Rev is having to swap memory out to disk a lot if there are a lot of big globals. You could test this by opening a stack that uses no globals and try debugging it. If it's snappy, then there may be a memory issue with the other stacks. -- Dr Terry Judd Lecturer in Educational Technology (Design) Biomedical Multimedia Unit Faculty of Medicine, Dentistry Health Sciences The University of Melbourne Parkville VIC 3052 AUSTRALIA 61-3 8344 0187 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Meaning of error codes
I want to deal with my own error messages. Does anyone have a list of the 'official' error codes in rev 3.0? Also I remember that at one time someone on this list was offering a library for this purpose.. thanks sqb -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
