Re: non-jagged window?

[Nicolas Cueto]

> Did you use a GIF for your custom window shape?  You need to use a PNG image

That did the trick. Thank you.

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Re: Not bringing a window to front

[J. Landman Gay]

Bill Vlahos wrote:
I have a substack that has has information on it which can be updated. I 
currently use "open this stack" which opens it for the first time and 
makes it the frontmost window. However, if the window is already open 
all I want to do is update the information on it but not bring it to the 
front. How do I do that?


Just refer to the stack or its fields remotely:

 put myData into fld 1 of stack mySubstack

You can hilite buttons or whatever else you need the same way. Just 
include a specific reference to the object.


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Re: Can Rev turn text to speech and record it?

[Kay C Lan]

On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Richard Miller  wrote:

> Is there a reasonably elegant way (on a Mac) to have Rev turn text into
> speech and record it as a wav file...


Ah, so you are on Mac. Well, it looks like AppleScript or Automator is your
friend again. Take a look here:

http://www.ehow.com/how_2170731_turn-text-file-audiobook-mac.html?ref=fuel&utm_source=yahoo&utm_medium=ssp&utm_campaign=yssp_art

Then there is the problem of converting the AIFF file to WAV. It is possible
to do this with Automator using the Import Audio Files action. You can
specify the WAV encoder, but that is all you can specify, there are no
options to set 16 bit 16k mono :-( Unfortunately Audacity doesn't have
AppleScript support.

Another option maybe to preset your iTunes Preferences to import to 16 bit
16k mono WAV format and then use AppleScript to tell iTunes to import the
files you just created with 'text-to-audio' action above. In this case
basically all you need is:

tell application "iTunes"
  launch
  try
add this_file
  end try
end tell

Of course it's probably worth testing to see what format (bit/k/channels)
the Automator Music Action 'Import Audio Files' outputs. You may be lucky,
if you set iTunes Preferences to 16 bit 16 k mono WAV and you use Import
Audio Files to encode to WAV it might possibly come out at 16 bit 16 K mono
thereby eliminating that need to actual import into iTunes.

HTH
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Re: Using telemessage to generate a phone call from Rev

[Jan Schenkel]

Does it work if you do not urlencode the XML string?

post fld 1 to url "http://xml.telemessage.com/partners/xmlMessage.jsp";


Jan Schenkel
=
Quartam Reports & PDF Library for Revolution


=
"As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time."  (La 
Rochefoucauld)


--- On Thu, 4/9/09, Richard Miller  wrote:

> From: Richard Miller 
> Subject: Using telemessage to generate a phone call from Rev
> To: "How to use Revolution" 
> Date: Thursday, April 9, 2009, 10:14 AM
> At Kay's suggestion, I looked into the service from
> telemessage.com. Seems fairly simple to implement. But
> I'm having some kind of difficulty transmitting the XML
> data to their server. My guess is one of you will see the
> problem right away.
> 
> They say to post the following code (which I store in fld
> 1) to their server, so I'm am using the following Rev
> command:
> 
>post urlencode (fld 1) to url
> "http://xml.telemessage.com/partners/xmlMessage.jsp";
> 
> [snipping out the XML request and response]
> 
> What am I doing wrong?
> Thanks.
> Richard
> 


  
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Not bringing a window to front

[Bill Vlahos]

I have a substack that has has information on it which can be updated.  
I currently use "open this stack" which opens it for the first time  
and makes it the frontmost window. However, if the window is already  
open all I want to do is update the information on it but not bring it  
to the front. How do I do that?


Bill Vlahos
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Re: Revolution 3.5 launched

[Trevor DeVore]

On Apr 9, 2009, at 4:29 PM, mfstuart wrote:

I just got v3.50 installed, registered, working, and now seeing the  
Data

Grid work in a quick example I built.
WOW!
I typed some scripts that connected to MSSQL thru ODBC, and loaded  
the data

right into the Data Grid group control. Awesome! :)


I just updated the lesson that talks about displaying large amounts of  
data in a data grid. The introduction now links to a stack that  
displays 50,000 movies from a SQLite database. The data grid fetches  
the data from an open SQLite cursor as needed rather than converting  
all of the records. This makes it pretty fast.






I can't wait to really dig in and see what this is capable of.
Any chance that folks could start to build stack examples using the  
Data

Grid and uploading them to RevOnline?
What all can it do? How many ways can the grid display data?


I would say that the data grid can display data in a plethora of ways.  
Here is a link to the examples lesson that shows a couple of  
screenshots of the data grid:





I recently used it to create a download window like Firefox and Safari  
have too. The thing about data grid forms is that you can customize  
the look however you would like because each row in the form is just a  
group with your custom layout.



Can it display true tree node structures in it?


No. The data grid does not currently support hierarchal structures. If  
people would like to see this they should file an enhancement request  
in RQCC.


Regards,

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Developer Resources: http://revolution.bluemangolearning.com
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Re: Using telemessage to generate a phone call from Rev

[Kay C Lan]

On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 1:14 AM, Richard Miller  wrote:

>
>18022385355
>

Is the DEVICE_TYPE correct?

Is it possible it should be something like:

BusinessNumber
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Resource center videos problem

[Kurt Kaufman]

Perian has been known to cause playback issues and DivX to a lesser  
degree.


Thanks; I'll experiment with their removal and see what happens.
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Re: non-jagged window?

[Scott Rossi]

Recently, Nicolas Cueto wrote:

> I've figured out how to custom shape
> a stack window, and how to enable
> that stack to be moved without a
> control bar.
> 
> But, I guess because the shape I'm
> using has a round edge, that edge
> looks very jagged. The image used
> for the window shape, however, has
> a nice looking smooth edge.
> 
> How can I give my non-rectangular
> custon shape stack a smooth
> (non-dithered?) look?

Did you use a GIF for your custom window shape?  You need to use a PNG image
that is antialiased (smoothed) around the round edge you mention.  If you
are given options in what format to save your image, you want 24 (or 32)
bit, not 8 bit.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design



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non-jagged window?

[Nicolas Cueto]

Hello All,

I've figured out how to custom shape
a stack window, and how to enable
that stack to be moved without a
control bar.

But, I guess because the shape I'm
using has a round edge, that edge
looks very jagged. The image used
for the window shape, however, has
a nice looking smooth edge.

How can I give my non-rectangular
custon shape stack a smooth
(non-dithered?) look?

Thank you.

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Re: non-rectangular card window?

[Nicolas Cueto]

Found a solution in the archives.

That was easy!

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On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Nicolas Cueto  wrote:
> I found the answer in the archives!
>
> But now my question is how to enable
> a custom-shaped stack to be movable.
>
> I can't use Rev's Controls property
> for stacks, right?
>
> Back to the archives in the meantime.
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Re: non-rectangular card window?

[Nicolas Cueto]

I found the answer in the archives!

But now my question is how to enable
a custom-shaped stack to be movable.

I can't use Rev's Controls property
for stacks, right?

Back to the archives in the meantime.

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non-rectangular card window?

[Nicolas Cueto]

Hello All,

How do I make a card window be a shape
other than the built-in rectangular/square one?

I've seen this done by other Rev users but
don't know how they did it.

Thank you.

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Re: Hide Menubar and TaskBar in Standalone

[Randy Hengst]

Hi Roger and Scott,

Scott, should I assume that using both taskbar and menubar is  
needlessly redundant?


Roger, when I first started messing with this, it was my  
understanding that you need to hide taskbar and menubar to work on  
both platforms. So, I use these handlers in my stack script.


If be glad to hear of better ways to do this...

on preOpenStack
  if the environment is "development" then
--- do nothing because I want the menus to be displayed when  
editing the stack

  else
hide menubar -- only Mac - also hides dock
hide taskbar -- only affects windows
set the decorations of this stack to empty
set the backdrop to "black"
  end if
  --the stack will automatically center itself whenever it opens.
  set the rect of this stack to "0,0,768,600" -- Adjust to match the  
size of your stack

  set the loc of this stack to the screenloc
  toplevel this stack
end preOpenStack
--
on closeStack
  show taskbar -- only affects windows
  show menubar -- also hides dock
end closeStack
--


take care,
randy
-
On Apr 9, 2009, at 6:40 PM, Roger Guay wrote:


Greetings,

I am building a standalone e-tutoring program for which I want to  
hide the menu and task bars on the Mac (and Windows secondarily),  
So far I have found no way to do this. I appreciate any help.


Thanks and cheers,
Roger
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Re: Update - Generating a phone call from Rev

[Richard Miller]

Skype requires the 16 bit/16k/mono/PCM format. There's no option on 
this. But I'm getting closer to solving the problem, having figured out 
where Skype requires the audio file to be placed. Thanks for your 
suggestion, though.


Richard Miller



Scott Rossi wrote:

Recently, Richard Miller wrote:

  

I have tried (very carefully) creating my own wav file to Skype's
format:  16 Khz/16 bit/mono/PCM
This gave me the same result: loud static.



My guess is, you are using a "non-standard" (in Rev's view) sampling rate
for the audio.  Revolution prefers "standard" sample rates of 11K/22K/44K
for audio files.  If you can switch the sample rate of your file to 11Khz
(as opposed to 16), I believe you'll get non-static audio.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design



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Can Rev turn text to speech and record it?

[Richard Miller]

Is there a reasonably elegant way (on a Mac) to have Rev turn text into 
speech and record it as a wav file... short of using the built-in 
Revspeak commands and having a program like Audacity capture the output 
from the speakers?


Thanks.
Richard Miller
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Re: Hide Menubar and TaskBar in Standalone

[Scott Rossi]

Recently, Roger Guay wrote:

> I am building a standalone e-tutoring program for which I want to hide
> the menu and task bars on the Mac (and Windows secondarily), So far I
> have found no way to do this. I appreciate any help.

In the script that is part of your startup routine (or wherever makes the
most sense) you add this line of script:

  hide menubar

If you ever need to make the menus visible again while running your app
(maybe as a preference), just script the opposite:

  show menubar

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design


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Hide Menubar and TaskBar in Standalone

[Roger Guay]

Greetings,

I am building a standalone e-tutoring program for which I want to hide  
the menu and task bars on the Mac (and Windows secondarily), So far I  
have found no way to do this. I appreciate any help.


Thanks and cheers,
Roger
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Re: Revolution 3.5 launched

[Devin Asay]

On Apr 9, 2009, at 3:21 PM, mfstuart wrote:



Hi Devin,
Thanx for letting me know. I went thru that, and that's how I was  
able to

learn how to use the new control so quickly.
Sorry to say, but I get excited in a hurry when I get new toys to  
play with.


I remember as a young kid (about 6-7), I got a fire truck for  
Christmas, it

had 2 fireman in the front seat.
Everything was functional on it. To say the least, I was happy to  
the point

I wanted to take it apart and see how it all worked.
To say, I guess that's why I'm a software developer today. I get  
excited
about toys and the next thing I want is to take it apart and see  
what it can

do. :)


I hear you. I confess I have spent most of today really digging into  
some of the new features. One of the coolest, almost overlooked, new  
features is the ability to add User Notes to the Rev Dictionary. I've  
been playing with that. (See the entries for 'dashes' and  
'defaultFolder', for example.) All you need is a Rev Online account to  
be allowed to post. The notes are mediated by RunRev so it takes a day  
or two for them to show up. I'm looking forward to everyone posting  
great example code snippets and additional details to the Dictionary.


Back to the sandbox, I mean work.

Devin

Devin Asay
Humanities Technology and Research Support Center
Brigham Young University

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Re: Revolution 3.5 launched

[mfstuart]

Hi Devin,
Thanx for letting me know. I went thru that, and that's how I was able to
learn how to use the new control so quickly.
Sorry to say, but I get excited in a hurry when I get new toys to play with.

I remember as a young kid (about 6-7), I got a fire truck for Christmas, it
had 2 fireman in the front seat.
Everything was functional on it. To say the least, I was happy to the point
I wanted to take it apart and see how it all worked.
To say, I guess that's why I'm a software developer today. I get excited
about toys and the next thing I want is to take it apart and see what it can
do. :)

Almost ecstatic,
Mark Stuart



Devin Asay wrote:
> 
> 
> On Apr 9, 2009, at 2:29 PM, mfstuart wrote:
> 
>>
>> Hi all,
>> I just got v3.50 installed, registered, working, and now seeing the  
>> Data
>> Grid work in a quick example I built.
>> WOW!
>> I typed some scripts that connected to MSSQL thru ODBC, and loaded  
>> the data
>> right into the Data Grid group control. Awesome! :)
>>
>> THANX TO ALL INVOLVED WITH THIS RELEASE!!
>>
>> I've been waiting 3 years for this new control, and now I can show off
>> RunRev as a true developers tool - not that it wasn't before. But  
>> this takes
>> it up to several levels higher.
>>
>> I can't wait to really dig in and see what this is capable of.
>> Any chance that folks could start to build stack examples using the  
>> Data
>> Grid and uploading them to RevOnline?
>> What all can it do? How many ways can the grid display data?
>> Can it display true tree node structures in it?
> 
> Mark,
> 
> Ben Beaumont has uploaded a very nice Data Grids Tour stack to Rev  
> Online. It should have lots of examples, plus step by step instructions.
> 
> Devin
> 
> Devin Asay
> Humanities Technology and Research Support Center
> Brigham Young University
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Re: Revolution 3.5 launched

[Devin Asay]

On Apr 9, 2009, at 2:29 PM, mfstuart wrote:



Hi all,
I just got v3.50 installed, registered, working, and now seeing the  
Data

Grid work in a quick example I built.
WOW!
I typed some scripts that connected to MSSQL thru ODBC, and loaded  
the data

right into the Data Grid group control. Awesome! :)

THANX TO ALL INVOLVED WITH THIS RELEASE!!

I've been waiting 3 years for this new control, and now I can show off
RunRev as a true developers tool - not that it wasn't before. But  
this takes

it up to several levels higher.

I can't wait to really dig in and see what this is capable of.
Any chance that folks could start to build stack examples using the  
Data

Grid and uploading them to RevOnline?
What all can it do? How many ways can the grid display data?
Can it display true tree node structures in it?


Mark,

Ben Beaumont has uploaded a very nice Data Grids Tour stack to Rev  
Online. It should have lots of examples, plus step by step instructions.


Devin

Devin Asay
Humanities Technology and Research Support Center
Brigham Young University

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Re: Revolution 3.5 launched

[mfstuart]

Hi all,
I just got v3.50 installed, registered, working, and now seeing the Data
Grid work in a quick example I built.
WOW!
I typed some scripts that connected to MSSQL thru ODBC, and loaded the data
right into the Data Grid group control. Awesome! :)

THANX TO ALL INVOLVED WITH THIS RELEASE!!

I've been waiting 3 years for this new control, and now I can show off
RunRev as a true developers tool - not that it wasn't before. But this takes
it up to several levels higher.

I can't wait to really dig in and see what this is capable of.
Any chance that folks could start to build stack examples using the Data
Grid and uploading them to RevOnline?
What all can it do? How many ways can the grid display data? 
Can it display true tree node structures in it?

Regards,
Mark Stuart


Kevin Miller wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Just to let you know that Revolution 3.5 has been launched and is now
> available on our website or through check for updates.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Kevin
> 
> Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/
> Runtime Revolution - User-Centric Development Tools
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Re: Update - Generating a phone call from Rev

[Scott Rossi]

Recently, Richard Miller wrote:

> I have tried (very carefully) creating my own wav file to Skype's
> format:  16 Khz/16 bit/mono/PCM
> This gave me the same result: loud static.

My guess is, you are using a "non-standard" (in Rev's view) sampling rate
for the audio.  Revolution prefers "standard" sample rates of 11K/22K/44K
for audio files.  If you can switch the sample rate of your file to 11Khz
(as opposed to 16), I believe you'll get non-static audio.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design



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export snapshot color switching?

[Hugh Senior]

Is this me, or does the export snapshot switch blue and red? I export a
group to a variable, set the clipboardData["image"] to the variable and
paste. Red text is blue, blue text is red!

Is this a bug, a feature or simply old age?

/H

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RE: Generating a phone call from Rev

[Hugh Senior]

Hi Richard

As you have been investigating Skype, I am sure you will have come across
Skype's html protocol options...

"& SkypeName &"

Yes, this rings the computer rather than the phone, but may be a solution
especially as Skype-Skype phone calls cost nothing. I have it implemented in
my own Contacts system along with the ?chat option and it does have the
advantage of being cross-platform.

/H
(I hope the thtml tag angle brackets will display above as expected)

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Re: Generating a phone call from Rev

[Richard Miller]

Thanks, Robert. I just tried that on my home (land line) phone from my 
cell phone. A message came up asking if I wanted it converted to voice 
for 25 cents. So it looks quite possible, but considerably more 
expensive than telemessage (which is 10 cents per call). I'm not sure if 
this charge can be reduced through some other originating service or if 
it is the company hosting the land line service that presets this rate.


Richard



Not using cell phones does not automatically excludes sms as an 
option. In many countries, it is possible to send sms to a normal land 
number and the phone company reads it for the receipient. In other 
words, you send the text as sms, they do text-to-voice conversion for 
you. Normally, one can also replay the message by pressing a button on 
the phone.


Robert
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Re: Generating a phone call from Rev

[Robert Brenstein]

On 09.04.2009 at 8:23 Uhr -0400 Richard Miller apparently wrote:

Kay,

This company you pointed to (www.telemessage.com) looks like it 
might have a decent solution. It's more expensive than Skype, but 
not too bad at 10 cents per call. Their XML solution should work in 
Rev on a Mac server. But I would like to get the Skype solution 
working if possible.


In my particular situation, I need to have my Rev application send a 
phone call. It can't be SMS. My vendors handle all orders either in 
person or by phone. The computer (if they have one!), is usually not 
near the order desk. Their business is mostly done by phone (and not 
a cell phone). What I am doing is working on a way to allow them to 
get orders through the internet, but not have to change the way they 
typically record these orders (which is still by pencil and paper).


Thanks.
Richard


Not using cell phones does not automatically excludes sms as an 
option. In many countries, it is possible to send sms to a normal 
land number and the phone company reads it for the receipient. In 
other words, you send the text as sms, they do text-to-voice 
conversion for you. Normally, one can also replay the message by 
pressing a button on the phone.


Robert
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Using telemessage to generate a phone call from Rev

[Richard Miller]

At Kay's suggestion, I looked into the service from telemessage.com. 
Seems fairly simple to implement. But I'm having some kind of difficulty 
transmitting the XML data to their server. My guess is one of you will 
see the problem right away.


They say to post the following code (which I store in fld 1) to their 
server, so I'm am using the following Rev command:


   post urlencode (fld 1) to url 
"http://xml.telemessage.com/partners/xmlMessage.jsp";


---
Here's the xml (from fld 1) which I am posting. I know this data is 
correct, because they provide a test form here 
(http://xml.telemessage.com/partners/xmlMessageTest.jsp), which I used, 
and it worked perfectly. The error response follows the code:

---



  

  
Test Call
  
  

  

  rdmiller
  my password goes here

  

  
  

  0
  I should be hearing a message a message that says blah, 
blah


  
  

   

18022385355
  

  

  
  1.5


--
The error I get back is as follows:
--



 
   
 0
 
 
 401
 Error while parsing XML: Premature end of 
file.

   
 
 1


What am I doing wrong?
Thanks.
Richard
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Re: AW: -39 is this Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy?

[Bob Sneidar]

That is one possibility in one of the infinite improbabilities you  
speak of. Of course, in another parallel universe, I might be mistaken.


Bob Sneidar
IT Manager
Logos Management
Calvary Chapel CM

On Apr 8, 2009, at 10:27 PM, Bill Vlahos wrote:


I think you mean the Infinite Improbability Drive.

Bill

On Apr 8, 2009, at 3:49 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:


I think you must be referring to the quantum improbability drive. It
does not actually create "a" black hole, it creates all possible
black holes and then travels through them all simultaneously.
Results are understandably unreliable.

Bob Sneidar
IT Manager
Logos Management
Calvary Chapel CM

On Apr 8, 2009, at 7:09 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote:


But if 42 is caught by a black hole the result could be -39!


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Absolutely not. The only error possible would be 42.

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Re: DISAPPEARING graphics in button

[Devin Asay]

On Apr 8, 2009, at 6:35 PM, stephen barncard wrote:

I have this problem in a number of my apps.   I have a button with  
an icon
referenced to an image on another card in the same stack. It's  
grouped with
other elements, although none cover it. Id of image is renumbered to  
prevent

conflict, and it's an original graphic.
Everything works fine in the IDE while working on it. Upon closing and
re-opening the stack, this image has disappeared until I click on the
button, then it stays visible until rev is quit. It doesn't appear  
to be a

layer number related problem. This also happens in its splash screen
standalone.

Has anyone seen this?


Yes, Stephen, I've seen this too. In my case the referenced image was  
in a library stack. I was careful to make sure the image id was  
unique, but until I click on the button the image doesn't appear. I  
*think* that explicitly assigning the image id to the icon in a  
preOpenCard handler reduces the frequency of this problem, but doesn't  
eliminate it.


Another detail, possibly important. The button in question is on the  
first card of the stack. Other button icons on other cards also  
reference images in my library stack, but they seem to appear reliably  
all the time.


Devin

Devin Asay
Humanities Technology and Research Support Center
Brigham Young University

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Re: Resource center videos problem

[Jim Kanter]

Perian has been known to cause playback issues and DivX to a lesser degree.

> Thanks. Have tried that. Still as above.  Also have Perian, Flip4Mac and
> DivX installed to function through QT.  Any known conflict there?
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Re: Generating a phone call from Rev

[Richard Miller]

Kay,

This company you pointed to (www.telemessage.com) looks like it might 
have a decent solution. It's more expensive than Skype, but not too bad 
at 10 cents per call. Their XML solution should work in Rev on a Mac 
server. But I would like to get the Skype solution working if possible.


In my particular situation, I need to have my Rev application send a 
phone call. It can't be SMS. My vendors handle all orders either in 
person or by phone. The computer (if they have one!), is usually not 
near the order desk. Their business is mostly done by phone (and not a 
cell phone). What I am doing is working on a way to allow them to get 
orders through the internet, but not have to change the way they 
typically record these orders (which is still by pencil and paper).


Thanks.
Richard




http://www.networkworld.com/news/2008/081308-landlines.html?fsrc=rss-wireless

And because Sarah, you're in Oz, you can use smsPup:

http://smspup.com/smsServices.php?serviceIdentity=textToSpeech

Which only leaves sending SMS from Rev, which again can be done with
AppleScript:

http://www.smsmac.com/help/discover/applescript/

So back to Richard's original problem, if the 'client' isn't at his computer
then he probably isn't at his phone (which is next to the computer) either.
If he has a mobile phone then using AppleScript to SMS is probably a cheaper
option and provides the added benefit of a 'hard copy'. I can't imagine
anything worse than trying to scramble for pen and paper whilst receiving a
voice message saying, "We have recived your order for part No: AXZS-564332,
part No AXXD-02594023,...";-( Having an SMS that I can cross-check when I
get back to my computer seems like a nice alternative.

HTH
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Re: Generating a phone call from Rev

[Richard Miller]

Kay,

Thanks for these suggestions. I appreciate the time you took to long 
into them. I'll follow through them.


Best,
Richard


Kay C Lan wrote:

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Sarah Reichelt wrote:

  

I have only had a quick look at Skype, but can you program it to speak
or read a file down the phone?




Oopps. I thought that this was as simple as using Audio MIDI Setup to feed
the speaker output into the mic input, but unfortunately you do need a MIDI
mixer in the middle which is probably impractical :-(

The software option is to use WireTap Anywhere:

http://atmac.org/voip-phone-calls-for-aac-users/

but unless you already own this it is probably cheaper to go with your
Phlink option.

If you want to go the whole hog and set up a VoIP server such as Asterik,
there are Add Ons that handle Text-to-Speech:

http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+cmd+swift

Probably all too complex when compared to some of these services:

http://www1.sprintpcs.com/explore/ueContent.jsp?scTopic=txt2landline

http://www.networkworld.com/news/2008/081308-landlines.html?fsrc=rss-wireless

And because Sarah, you're in Oz, you can use smsPup:

http://smspup.com/smsServices.php?serviceIdentity=textToSpeech

Which only leaves sending SMS from Rev, which again can be done with
AppleScript:

http://www.smsmac.com/help/discover/applescript/

So back to Richard's original problem, if the 'client' isn't at his computer
then he probably isn't at his phone (which is next to the computer) either.
If he has a mobile phone then using AppleScript to SMS is probably a cheaper
option and provides the added benefit of a 'hard copy'. I can't imagine
anything worse than trying to scramble for pen and paper whilst receiving a
voice message saying, "We have recived your order for part No: AXZS-564332,
part No AXXD-02594023,...";-( Having an SMS that I can cross-check when I
get back to my computer seems like a nice alternative.

HTH
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Re: Rev 3.5 and RevOnline

[Kay C Lan]

On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Kevin Miller  wrote:

> It is yes. So much has changed since the previous version that you need to
> create a brand new account and upload your stacks into it... I think will
> result in a better
> experience for all.
>

Sounds very sensible. Thanks Kevin. (for taking the time out to reply and
for 3.5 :-)
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Update - Generating a phone call from Rev

[Richard Miller]

I've been working with Skype and Applescript to address this issue. 
Here's what I'm doing so far (which is close to working, but not quite 
there):


tell application "Skype"
activate
set theScript to "My script"
set theStartingTime to current date
send command "CALL echo123" script name theScript --replace echo123 with 
another phone number

set theCallID to the second word of the result
set myResult to "OK"
set theStatus to "nothing"
repeat until (((current date) - theStartingTime) > 60) or (theStatus is 
equal to "FINISHED")

 set theCommand to "GET CALL " & theCallID & " STATUS"
 send command theCommand script name theScript
 set theStatus to the last word of the result
 display dialog the result giving up after 1
 if theStatus is equal to "INPROGRESS" then
 set theCommand to "ALTER CALL " & theCallID & " SET_INPUT file=" & 
quote & "test.wav" & quote

 send command theCommand script name theScript
 end if
end repeat
end tell

There is a link to a wav file that someone (perhaps with Skype) has 
identified as being a correctly-formatted one. It is here:


http://forum.skype.com/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=37221

I've used that file in my testing.

What is happening is that the call is initiated fine, then the wav file 
does (apparently) start to play. But I only hear loud static. If I 
change the location of the file in the script to be somewhere incorrect, 
I hear quiet when the call comes in. So this tells me the wav file is 
definitely being engaged and is actually playing through the call. But 
for whatever reason, it is just static. I've been putting the wave file 
right on the root of my hard drive so that I can designate its location 
as simply "test.wav" with no more complicated path than that.


I have tried (very carefully) creating my own wav file to Skype's 
format:  16 Khz/16 bit/mono/PCM

This gave me the same result: loud static.

Any thoughts?
Richard
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Re: Revolution 3.5 launched

[Heather Nagey]

You can download 3.5 from the normal download pages now, since it is  
on full release:


http://www.runrev.com/downloads/all-downloads/full-list/

Regards,

Heather

On 9 Apr 2009, at 08:07, Peter Alcibiades wrote:



What is the url for direct download?  Check for updates doesn't work  
on

Linux.

Hopefully this is one of the things that will be delightfully fixed  
in 3.5!


Peter


François Chaplais-2 wrote:



great! this post is to indicate that if, like myself, work on a non
admin account on Mac OS X, you probably will have to switch to admin
for the update to proceed properly. Switching back then to the
original non admin account seems to be OK.

Very best,
François

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Re: Rev 3.5 and RevOnline

[Kevin Miller]

On 9/4/09 09:39, "Kay C Lan"  wrote:

> Does anyone know if you have to Sign Up again for RevOnline with 3.5?
> 
> The new RevOnline looks great but when I tried to Log In I couldn't remember
> my password - I think I had this set up as automatic Log In in previous Rev
> versions. I did find an email with a code for RevOnline and inserted this,
> but I got a message saying try to log on later. I then tried the 'Forgot
> Password' link, which changed to 'Resetting password' but never got past
> this - it seemed to hang at this step - over 10 min. I didn't receive an
> email to the email address I provided.
> 
> I notice that there are way way fewer Users and Stacks loaded to RevOnline,
> so I'm thinking that maybe with all the new RevOnline features it a
> requirement to Sign Up again?

It is yes. So much has changed since the previous version that you need to
create a brand new account and upload your stacks into it. Doing it this way
means that we get current stacks that include useful information such as the
tag keywords. It would be great if anyone who has a useful stack on the old
RevOnline could find a few minutes to upload it into the new one. More
people will be able to find your content in the new interface. I know its a
little extra work, but this is the only time we've asked you to do this in
the years since we introduced RevOnline and I think will result in a better
experience for all.

Kind regards,

Kevin

Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/
Runtime Revolution - User-Centric Development Tools

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Rev 3.5 and RevOnline

[Kay C Lan]

Does anyone know if you have to Sign Up again for RevOnline with 3.5?

The new RevOnline looks great but when I tried to Log In I couldn't remember
my password - I think I had this set up as automatic Log In in previous Rev
versions. I did find an email with a code for RevOnline and inserted this,
but I got a message saying try to log on later. I then tried the 'Forgot
Password' link, which changed to 'Resetting password' but never got past
this - it seemed to hang at this step - over 10 min. I didn't receive an
email to the email address I provided.

I notice that there are way way fewer Users and Stacks loaded to RevOnline,
so I'm thinking that maybe with all the new RevOnline features it a
requirement to Sign Up again?

Thanks
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Re: Revolution 3.5 launched

[Yves COPPE]

Hello,

Fantastic
We were waiting for a grid for such a long time
It answers the need more than expected.

Amicalement.

Yves COPPE
yvesco...@skynet.be

Greetings.

Yves COPPE
yvesco...@skynet.be

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Re: data grid code

[Josep]

Thanks for the piece of code... very nice :)

Salut,
Josep


mfstuart wrote:
> 
> Hi Sadhu,
> 
> I've modified your mouseUp script a little to not only save you some
> typing, but also to show another way to put a text file directly into a
> memory variable: gTheData. Also, the script checks if the user actually
> selected a file. The result of selecting a file returns the file path and
> name into "it". If the Cancel button was clicked on the File dialog, then
> empty is in the variable "it".
> Here it is:
> 
> on mouseUp
>--Retrieve the Excel CSV (quote and comma delimited) file
>answer file "The spread sheet file name?"
>if it is not empty then --if file selected
>   put it into theExcelFile
>   put URL ("file:" & theExcelFile) into gTheData  --this loads the
> file directly into gTheData
>   --   Convert the CSV data to tab delimited
>   put quote & comma & quote into csvPattern
>   replace csvPattern with tab in gTheData
>   replace quote with empty in gTheData
>   
>   --   Leave out the column headers since they are part of the data
> grid
>   delete line 1 of gTheData
>   set the dgText of group "Data Grid 1" to gTheData
>end if
> end mouseUp
> 
> HTH U,
> Mark Stuart
> 
> 
> Sadhunathan Nadesan wrote:
>> 
>> Ok!  Well you probably aren't that interested but I'm making progress.  
>> Here is the code for a button that loads the data, so the first part of 
>> the construction is accomplished.  Any suggestions on improvement of 
>> course welcome.  by the way, I noticed a typo in the docs, page 40, it
>> says
>> 
>> If you set the uText dgText of a data grid table then the data is 
>> treated as tab delimited text.
>> 
>> the "uText" should be removed.
>> 
>> 
>> on mouseUp
>>--Retreive the Excel CSV (quote and comma delimited) file
>>answer file "The spread sheet file name?"
>>put it into theExcelFile
>>open file theExcelFile for read
>>read from file theExcelFile until EOF
>>put it into gTheData
>>close file theExcelFile
>>   
>>--   Convert the CSV data to tab delimited
>>put quote & comma & quote into csvPattern
>>replace csvPattern with tab in gTheData
>>replace quote with empty in gTheData
>>   
>>--   Leave out the column headers since they are part of the data grid
>>delete line 1 of gTheData
>>set the dgText of group "Data Grid 1" to gTheData
>> end mouseUp
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Re: Revolution 3.5 launched

[Josep]

Thanks to all Rev team! 


Salut,
Josep
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Re: Revolution 3.5 launched

[Josep]

Thanks to all Rev team! 


Salut,
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Re: Revolution 3.5 launched

[Peter Alcibiades]

What is the url for direct download?  Check for updates doesn't work on
Linux.  

Hopefully this is one of the things that will be delightfully fixed in 3.5!

Peter


François Chaplais-2 wrote:
> 
> 
> great! this post is to indicate that if, like myself, work on a non  
> admin account on Mac OS X, you probably will have to switch to admin  
> for the update to proceed properly. Switching back then to the  
> original non admin account seems to be OK.
> 
> Very best,
>   François
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