OT: Educational Frameworks

[Sivakatirswami]

We are trying to look into educational frameworks to check on possible 
models for building our own system on the web. 

We have a professor who gave us access to her moodle site, but it's gear 
to first year university math courses.


We need to see models in use for K-12, where the interface is actually 
"usable" by the children themselves, if such a think exists.


But, in all our searches, we are blocked at every turn. There appears to 
be nothing "open"  you either have to be an instructor or a registered 
student with an enrollment ID to get in. This makes perfect sense from a 
security point of view, but it leaves anyone searching for such things 
completely shut out. We see hundreds of moodle sites and companies that 
support moodle users. But not a single "portal" that we can get into to 
look around for K-12 ideas.


If you know of any teachers/sites that might allow us to view the frame 
work (courses for kids, the syllabus, the modules in use, etc.) we would 
really appreciate it.


Please contact me off line with any access info/ideas you may have.

Thanks
Sivakatirswami



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Re: Syllabic division of words

[Mark Wieder]

Mark-

Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 3:29:22 PM, you wrote:

Oops... I forgot that the original question was about dividing words
into syllables - I thought we were talking about counting syllables,
which is a much easier question to think about.

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Re: setRegistry Dword -hex value?

[runrev260805]

The script lines look like this

 put "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\DameWare Development\NT Utilities\DNTU\DWRCC 
Settings\Connect To Client\Port0" into tKey2  
get  setregistry(tKey2, tHex, "dword")
put it

 Original Message 
Subject: setRegistry Dword -hex value? (20-Aug-2009 0:25)
From:runrev260...@m-r-d.de
To:  runrev260...@m-r-d.de

> Hi,
> 
> i need to create a key in the registry and enter a hex value.
> 
> I tried it now in several ways, but always without success.
> 
> I use the following commands, which do not work. The value of Port 0 after 
> that is 32463731 (hex) or 843462449 (decimal).
> 
> 
> put "17f2" into tHex
> 
> put "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\DameWare Development\NT Utilities\DNTU\
> DWRCC Settings\Connect To Client\Port 0" into tKey 
> 
> get setregistry(tKey2,tHex,"dword")
> put it
> 
> 
> Tried also 0x17f2. But then i got "invalid dword-value (32-bit))"  in 
> the value field of Port 0.
> 
> Trying to put the decimal value 6130 into Port 0, shows a deciaml value of 
> 808661302 in Port 0.
> 
> In all case it reports True.
> 
> What am i doing wrong?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Matthias
> 
> 
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Re: Syllabic division of words

[Mark Swindell]

The rules of syllabication are more complex than one would think.   
Root words, prefixes, suffixes and quite a few other little things  
factor in.  The page Richard cited is good.


di-sas-trous, but re-string

cu-ri-ous

yel-low, but well-be-ing

I wonder if the thing to do would be to buy or acquire a software  
dictionary and  somehow strip out the keywords and their corresponding  
syllabication, and place them into a new table of one's own.


Mark


On Aug 19, 2009, at 2:23 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:


Mark-

Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 10:26:49 AM, you wrote:


That could be di-sa-ste-ro-us.


Diphthongs still count as a single syllable vowel sound. Er, mostly.
As long as you don't count words like Hawaiian and hiatus... OK - so
you make a table of exceptions, and otherwise break at the last vowel
preceding a non-vowel char.

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setRegistry Dword -hex value?

[runrev260805]

Hi,

i need to create a key in the registry and enter a hex value.

I tried it now in several ways, but always without success.

I use the following commands, which do not work. The value of Port 0 after that 
is 32463731 (hex) or 843462449 (decimal).


put "17f2" into tHex

put "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\DameWare Development\NT Utilities\DNTU\DWRCC 
Settings\Connect To Client\Port 0" into tKey 

get setregistry(tKey2,tHex,"dword")
put it


Tried also 0x17f2. But then i got "invalid dword-value (32-bit))"  in the 
value field of Port 0.

Trying to put the decimal value 6130 into Port 0, shows a deciaml value of 
808661302 in Port 0.

In all case it reports True.

What am i doing wrong?

Regards,

Matthias



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Re: Putting Stuff Before the Message Box

[Jim Ault]

Just chiming in at the end of the thread.

In the PHP environment on a web server there is a special memory area  
called "output buffer"


This has various maintenance functions built in to the PHP system,  
such as

  ob_start();ob_flush();  ob_implicit();  ob_clean();

and these facilitate building the characters that get sent back to a  
browser, etc.
It is not a good idea to treat this as the normal PHP variable, such  
as $myDataString.


The message box stack is also a special area that began its life in  
Hypercard 1.0

Back then it was unchangeable.
Now that you can dive into the Rev library stack and modify scripts,  
please use caution because there are globals and settings that are  
interconnected between libraries.  You might find strange behaviors  
that cannot easily be traced.


It is cool that we can get under the hood and make such changes.
My preference is not to do this since Rev is how I make my living.

Jim Ault
Las Vegas


On Aug 19, 2009, at 2:29 PM, Gregory Lypny wrote:


Thanks for thoughtful responses Craig, Peter, and Shao,

So, it wasn't the meds.  As I mostly use the message box for dumping  
the results  of rough tests, it's good to know its idiosyncrasies so  
I don't mistakenly think I've goofed.


Regards,

Gregory


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Re: Putting Stuff Before the Message Box

[Gregory Lypny]

Thanks for thoughtful responses Craig, Peter, and Shao,

So, it wasn't the meds.  As I mostly use the message box for dumping  
the results  of rough tests, it's good to know its idiosyncrasies so I  
don't mistakenly think I've goofed.


Regards,

Gregory


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Re: Syllabic division of words

[Mark Wieder]

Mark-

Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 10:26:49 AM, you wrote:

> That could be di-sa-ste-ro-us.

Diphthongs still count as a single syllable vowel sound. Er, mostly.
As long as you don't count words like Hawaiian and hiatus... OK - so
you make a table of exceptions, and otherwise break at the last vowel
preceding a non-vowel char.

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Re: What does "menu" do in the decorations property

[Björnke von Gierke]

set the decorations to menu


check out the menu keywords (and of course the decorations properties)  
entry in the dictionary, it's very long ;)



Bjoernke

On 19 Aug 2009, at 22:18, Timothy Bleiler wrote:


According to the documentation

Use the menu keyword to give a window a menu bar (on Unix and  
Windows systems).


I can't see that "menu" does anything in this context. Can anyone  
tell me what I'm missing?




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What does "menu" do in the decorations property

[Timothy Bleiler]

According to the documentation

Use the menu keyword to give a window a menu bar (on Unix and Windows  
systems).


I can't see that "menu" does anything in this context. Can anyone tell  
me what I'm missing?


Thanks,
Tim Bleiler

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Re: [OT] iPhone development

[viktoras d.]

Thanks Devin, Malte,

btw. here is an interesting article on many roles apps for iPhone are 
taking in people's lives:

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20327220.200-appland-how-smartphones-are-transforming-our-lives.html?full=true

Sorry for possible cross-posting
Viktoras
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Re: [OT] iPhone development

[Malte Pfaff-Brill]

Stanford university has made their lectures on iPhone dev. available  
through iTunes U.


http://www.stanford.edu/class/cs193p/cgi-bin/index.php

I found the courses very interesting.

Cheers,

Malte
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Re: [OT] iPhone development

[Devin Asay]

On Aug 19, 2009, at 3:09 AM, viktoras d. wrote:


Sarah,

I am interested, could you please post a list of these books and  
resources.


Best wishes,
Viktoras

Sarah Reichelt wrote:

...
As regards who can program for the iPhone, I can recommend a couple  
of

books for anyone interested in learning. While it is still C,
Objective-C is about as nice as C can get and once you get used to  
how

things are done, it isn't that difficult. Apple has lot of example
projects too.


A professor in our Computer Science department, who teaches iPhone  
development, recommends:


iPhone SDK Development by Bill Dudney and Chris Adamson
http://www.pragprog.com/titles/amiphd/iphone-sdk-development

It can be purchased as a PDF and downloaded.

Regards,

Devin

Devin Asay
Humanities Technology and Research Support Center
Brigham Young University

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Re: Syllabic division of words

[Richmond Mathewson]

ERR . . . there is a lot of stuff about on the net
about Natural Language Parsing . . .

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Re: Syllabic division of words

[Richmond Mathewson]

Mark Swindell wrote:

That could be di-sa-ste-ro-us.

On Aug 19, 2009, at 10:19 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote:


Maybe this is a bit disingenuous, but, surely
to chop words up into syllables all one has to do
is find the vowels and then chop?

Doesn't sound all that complicated.
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Re: Syllabic division of words

[Björnke von Gierke]

you mean: di-sa-ste-ro-u-s

:P


On 19 Aug 2009, at 19:26, Mark Swindell wrote:


That could be di-sa-ste-ro-us.


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Re: Syllabic division of words

[Mark Swindell]

That could be di-sa-ste-ro-us.

On Aug 19, 2009, at 10:19 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote:


Maybe this is a bit disingenuous, but, surely
to chop words up into syllables all one has to do
is find the vowels and then chop?

Doesn't sound all that complicated.
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Re: Syllabic division of words

[Richmond Mathewson]

Maybe this is a bit disingenuous, but, surely
to chop words up into syllables all one has to do
is find the vowels and then chop?

Doesn't sound all that complicated.
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Re: Rep : revlet and path

[J. Landman Gay]

J. Landman Gay wrote:

Jean-Paul Poccard wrote:


Tereza snyder wrote on august 06 :


"I routinely store application resources in a folder, 'resources', 
next to my apps that contain all kinds of stuff. I compute paths at 
startup depending on the effective filename.  Do I have to change my 
architecture ?"



My problem is te same, and as I a not among the happy few who use 
Enterprise, I cannot yet test but I wonder wether the url of the app 
on the net can be found from inside the revlet.


There's a workaround for now. You can add your own parameters to the 
javascript on your web page. These will be returned in "the revletParams 
of this stack" as one of the array elements. So you could create a 
parameter called "path" and put the URL to the revlet in there, then 
read that back in your revlet stack.


It does require customizing the html for every server though.



I shouldn't have said javascript; the parameter goes into the "embed" 
block, which isn't javascript. Sorry. There is also an unused parameter 
there already, called "requestedname", which could be used. I just 
tested it and it works.


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Re: Rep : revlet and path

[J. Landman Gay]

Jean-Paul Poccard wrote:


Tereza snyder wrote on august 06 :


"I routinely store application resources in a folder, 'resources', 
next to my apps that contain all kinds of stuff. I compute paths at 
startup depending on the effective filename.  Do I have to change my 
architecture ?"



My problem is te same, and as I a not among the happy few who use 
Enterprise, I cannot yet test but I wonder wether the url of the app on 
the net can be found from inside the revlet.


There's a workaround for now. You can add your own parameters to the 
javascript on your web page. These will be returned in "the revletParams 
of this stack" as one of the array elements. So you could create a 
parameter called "path" and put the URL to the revlet in there, then 
read that back in your revlet stack.


It does require customizing the html for every server though.

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Re: Syllabic division of words

[Mark Swindell]

That's because most common words in English are native English words  
with Germanic roots.  Short, to the point, guts v. intestines.  Most  
specialized vocabulary comes from Greek or Latin roots (French, etc.)


I think I recall reading somewhere that only 15% of English words are  
of English origen, but 90% of spoken English consists of that original  
15%.  Robert Claiborne  wrote a wonderful book called Our Marvelous  
Native Tongue.  An excellent read.  That statistic might come from  
there (I can't vouch whether the percentages are exact, but you get  
the point).


http://www.amazon.com/Our-Marvelous-Native-Tongue-Language/dp/0812910389/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1250697845&sr=8-1

Mark


On Aug 18, 2009, at 9:41 PM, capellan wrote:





Have you noticed that common words are
always shorter than specialised vocabulary?


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Re: Rep : revlet and path

[Richard Gaskin]

Jean-Paul Poccard wrote:
My problem is te same, and as I a not among the happy few who use 
Enterprise, I cannot yet test but I wonder wether the url of the app on 
the net can be found from inside the revlet.


The URL to the revlet is where you put it.  It would be nice to have a 
way to obtain this within the revlet programatically, and I'm sure 
that'll be added at some point if it's not there already, but in the 
meantime you have complete control over the URL since it's determined by 
where you put your revlet.


To generalize a solution that would require only minimal modification 
when such a function is later added to the engine, you could put the URL 
of your revlet into a custom property of the revlet stack, and access it 
with a function:


function RevletURL
  return the uRevletURL of this stack
end RevletURL

Using a fuction to access that means that if/when we get a way to obtain 
that URL programatically down the road, you only need to change that one 
function and all your scripts that use it will just keep working.


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Re: Radio buttons that don't look like radio buttons

[Howard Bornstein]

I think if you just set the icon and the hilite icon of the radio buttons to
graphics of different colors, it will do what you want.

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On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 7:13 PM, David Glasgow <
da...@dvglasgow.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Revolutionaries,
>
> I have several cards containing many radio buttons, and want to have a
> summary screen which consists of an array of colour indicators reflecting
> the status of the scattered radio buttons.  I remembered that many years ago
> I made some radio buttons that didn't look like radio buttons (they were
> intended to function and look a bit like the pop up - down mechanical
> buttons on old cassette recorders). So I set out the summary card with radio
> buttons which are set and reset by user actions on corresponding groups on
> the relevant card.  That works fine.  A brief script built around
>
> set the hilitedbutton of  SummaryGroupOnCard1  to the hilitedbutton of the
> owner of the target
>
> does the trick.
>
> However, the summary display can't look like radio buttons in the final
> product, because users will quite reasonably expect to be able to click on
> them.  I planned to change the properties of the summary buttons after I had
> finished laying out and scripting the cards the users will actually interact
> with.
>
> When the time came, I started to set and tweak properties and colours of
> the buttons on the summary card, but couldn't get the simple plain colour
> patch which switches on or off mutually exclusively with its fellow group
> members.
>
> After maybe an hour of futile clicking, I set out to find the buttons I
> made years ago, and to my amazement succeeded.  However, I *still* can't
> find out how I made the radio buttons not have the little radio button blob
> in the middle.  There is no scripting involved, and no icons.   They do have
> hilited text and fill colours that match - if they don't, a little dot
> appears when selected, like old Win radio buttons (I am on OS X).
> Selection is only indicated by a change in the border.  However, even though
> I have matched as many properties and colours as I can find, my new radio
> buttons insist on having the radio button blob.
>
> I know I could just copy the little group I have, and use them, but this is
> really bugging me.  Was I quite clever years ago, or am I being quite dumb
> now?
>
> David Glasgow
>
>
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Rep : revlet and path

[Jean-Paul Poccard]

Tereza snyder wrote on august 06 :


"I routinely store application resources in a folder, 'resources', 
next to my apps that contain all kinds of stuff. I compute paths at 
startup depending on the effective filename.  Do I have to change my 
architecture ?"



My problem is te same, and as I a not among the happy few who use 
Enterprise, I cannot yet test but I wonder wether the url of the app on 
the net can be found from inside the revlet.
I tried to find the url on mac with Safari, and I suppose all browsers 
store the files they download according to the same rules.


The file stored by the  browser contains the url whic it has been 
downloaded from.  With this URL it should be possible to find the nime 
of the folder containing the file and then build the urls of the 
"resources".


The first line of the files can be read from the message box with this 
little handler :


 answer file "choose a file"
  put it into tfile
  open file tfile for binary read
  read from file tfile at 1 until cr
  answer it
  close file tfile


From the files I looked at, it seems that :


--> When the ascii code of char 14  is 94 (decimal) then " Full Page 
TextName" appears among the 34  first characters, and the ascii code of 
the thirty fith character gives the length of the url. The url begins at 
the thirty-sixth character.


--> When  the ascii code of char 14 is  95 (decimal)  then the ascii 
code of the fifteenth  character gives the length of the url and the url 
begins at the sixteenth character.



This does not allow to write a neat and handsome handler, and it is 
surely too simple.  I don't know what happens if the url is very long.  
Any help will be appreciated.
Do anyone know exactly how the header of the file is built , especially 
when it is a revlet ?
Can I hope to fetch my own "resources" on the server when I will put on 
it my app and its quicktime movies ?


Cordialement

Jean-Paul Poccard.


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Re: You cannot put stuff before the Message Box

[DunbarX]

Mark.

Right, it is not about putting text, it is about selecting.

Craig
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Re: You cannot put stuff before the Message Box

[Mark Schonewille]

oh... :-) Forget about my previous post then.

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On 19 aug 2009, at 15:09, dunb...@aol.com wrote:

The title seemed cute, but misleading. This thread is not about  
putting
text before (or after) the msg box, it is about selecting in the  
message   box.



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Re: You cannot put stuff before the Message Box

[Mark Schonewille]

Craig,

on mouseUp
 repeat with x = 1 to 10
  put x & cr & msg
 end repeat
end mouseUp

Btw I have always considered the results in the message box as  
something uneditable and have no problems with that.


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On 19 aug 2009, at 15:05, dunb...@aol.com wrote:

The thing here is that if there is already a selection in the  
message box,
a blinking cursor or hillited text, you cannot select before (or  
after)
either the "results" field or the "message" field. It only works if  
there is no

selection at all.

Trying to do so selects all the text in the "message" field, even if  
you
explicitly name the "results" field. This is written into the IDE.  
Some people

find this counterintuitive. I'll bet you do too.

It can be unwritten; see my last two posts.

Craig Newman


In a message dated 8/18/09 9:12:06 PM, shaos...@wehostmacs.com writes:



put WHATEVER before fld "results" of stack "message box"



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Re: You cannot put stuff before the Message Box

[DunbarX]

The title seemed cute, but misleading. This thread is not about putting 
text before (or after) the msg box, it is about selecting in the message   box.
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You cannot put stuff before the Message Box

[DunbarX]

The thing here is that if there is already a selection in the message box, 
a blinking cursor or hillited text, you cannot select before (or after) 
either the "results" field or the "message" field. It only works if there is no 
selection at all. 

Trying to do so selects all the text in the "message" field, even if you 
explicitly name the "results" field. This is written into the IDE. Some people 
find this counterintuitive. I'll bet you do too.

It can be unwritten; see my last two posts.

Craig Newman


In a message dated 8/18/09 9:12:06 PM, shaos...@wehostmacs.com writes:


> put WHATEVER before fld "results" of stack "message box"
> 

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Re: [OT] iPhone development

[viktoras d.]

Thanks a lot, Sarah!

Sarah Reichelt wrote:
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Re: [OT] iPhone development

[Sarah Reichelt]

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 7:09 PM, viktoras d. wrote:
> Sarah,
>
> I am interested, could you please post a list of these books and resources.


I recommend this series of three books. Choose your starting position
based on your current knowledge.

If you don't know any C programming: Learn C on the Mac

If you know some C, but no Objective-C: Learn Objective-C on the Mac

Then for the iPhone: Beginning iPhone 3 Development


I worked backwards, starting with the iPhone book, then realising that
while I could follow the examples, I didn't understand it all.
I had learnt C a long time ago, so the "Learn C on the Mac" book was a
good refresher. Don't worry too much about the chapters 9, 10 & 11 as
they are largely superseded by Objective-C. The Objective-C book was
extremely helpful and then I was able to go back to the iPhone book
and really get it.

Note: the iPhone book has just been updated for iPhone OS 3.

Hope this is useful.

Cheers,
Sarah
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Re: [OT] iPhone development

[viktoras d.]

Sarah,

I am interested, could you please post a list of these books and resources.

Best wishes,
Viktoras

Sarah Reichelt wrote:

...
As regards who can program for the iPhone, I can recommend a couple of
books for anyone interested in learning. While it is still C,
Objective-C is about as nice as C can get and once you get used to how
things are done, it isn't that difficult. Apple has lot of example
projects too.

Cheers,
Sarah
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