Re: Snow Leopard
I believe Rev is a Cocoa app and has been for a little while. Bill Vlahos Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2009, at 4:47 PM, Peter W A Wood peterwaw...@gmail.com wrote: I think there can be little doubt that Revolution is a Carbon application. The easiest way to tell is when the old black white busy cursor can be seen. I've certainly seen it whilst using the Revolution IDE and I guess it can be seen from Revolution apps. Regards Peter On 30 Aug 2009, at 05:53, Colin Holgate wrote: On Aug 29, 2009, at 5:31 PM, François Chaplais wrote: An answer to this question would be welcome from the mothership. Yes, come on Kevin, don't tell me you're busy preparing for something... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Windows monitor resolution
jim sims wrote: I usually us a Mac, but I have a crappy XP machine with a CRT that I do testing with. I use this machine as a low range, base sort of test vehicle. The best it can do is 1280x1024 resolution. What resolution are most of your Windows apps planned for? What is the most common resolution that your users use? sims ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution I always make my apps for 1024 x 768 regardless of the target platform. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Windows monitor resolution
jim sims wrote: What resolution are most of your Windows apps planned for? What is the most common resolution that your users use? http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_display.asp -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Revolution training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Launch another app from my standalone
Still having the error 'NilObjectException the application must shut down' when using the 'launch' command. Looks like the target app to launch is producing the error on Windows Vista. Here is the relevant code that tries to launch... set the defaultFolder to it launch MyProgram.exe launch it The docs say ...To work with a Unix process, use the shell function instead. get shell(start MyProgram.exe) So should I be using this instead? Any ideas about this error? Thanks, Adrian __ Club Type http://www.clubtype.co.uk adr...@clubtype.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Windows monitor resolution
Jim Sims wrote: I usually us a Mac, but I have a crappy XP machine with a CRT that I do testing with. I use this machine as a low range, base sort of test vehicle. The best it can do is 1280x1024 resolution. What resolution are most of your Windows apps planned for? What is the most common resolution that your users use? Today, 1024x768 is a very safe resolution to target. Even those that still have their monitors set to 800x600 generally have the ability to up it to at least this. Aloha from Hawaii, Jim Bufalini ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Windows monitor resolution
As a survey's output of one of my asp's app : 1. 1440x900 173 45,17 % 2. 1024x768 83 21,67 % 3. 1280x1024 25 6,53 % 4. 1280x800 23 6,01 % 5. 1440x829 18 4,70 % 6. 1680x1050 16 4,18 % 7. 800x600 8 2,09 % 8. 1152x864 7 1,83 % 9. 1920x1200 5 1,31 % 10. 1280x960 4 1,04 % 11. 1366x768 3 0,78 % 12. 1024x819 2 0,52 % 13. 1088x612 2 0,52 % 14. 1280x720 2 0,52 % 15. 1280x768 2 0,52 % 16. 1024x640 1 0,26 % 17. 1067x667 1 0,26 % 18. 1344x840 1 0,26 % 19. 1600x900 1 0,26 % 20. 1843x1037 1 0,26 % 21. 2560x1600 1 0,26 % 22. 320x396 1 0,26 % 23. 819x614 1 0,26 % 24. 853x480 1 0,26 % 25. 986x616 1 0,26 % Best, Le 30 août 09 à 09:52, Richmond Mathewson a écrit : jim sims wrote: I usually us a Mac, but I have a crappy XP machine with a CRT that I do testing with. I use this machine as a low range, base sort of test vehicle. The best it can do is 1280x1024 resolution. What resolution are most of your Windows apps planned for? What is the most common resolution that your users use? sims ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution I always make my apps for 1024 x 768 regardless of the target platform. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Pierre Sahores mobile : (33) 6 03 95 77 70 www.wrds.com www.sahores-conseil.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Launch another app from my standalone
Adrian Williams wrote: Still having the error 'NilObjectException the application must shut down' when using the 'launch' command. Looks like the target app to launch is producing the error on Windows Vista. Here is the relevant code that tries to launch... set the defaultFolder to it launch MyProgram.exe launch it The docs say ...To work with a Unix process, use the shell function instead. get shell(start MyProgram.exe) So should I be using this instead? Any ideas about this error? Stop using it. Your code snippet does not show what it is set to. What is the default folder being set to? What are you launching? Why do you have two launch statements? Try: Put the defaultFolder into tOrigDefaultFolder Set the defaultFolder to C:\theDirTheExeIsIn -- Put actual dir the EXE is in here Launch MyProgram.exe -- Put the actual name of the exe here Set the defaultFolder to tOrigDefaultFolder -- Puts the defaultFolder back where it was Aloha from Hawaii Jim Bufalini ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Launch another app from my standalone
Everything wrapped. :-( Should have looked like this: Stop using it. Your code snippet does not show what it is set to. What is the default folder being set to? What are you launching? Why do you have two launch statements? Try: put the defaultFolder into tOrigDefaultFolder set the defaultFolder to C:\theDirTheExeIsIn -- Put actual dir the EXE is in here launch MyProgram.exe -- Put the actual name of the exe here set the defaultFolder to tOrigDefaultFolder -- Puts the defaultFolder back where it was Aloha from Hawaii Jim Bufalini ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Windows monitor resolution
I don't know how useful this is: Did a quick survey with the 30-odd kids I teach about 2 months ago (all but 2 run Windows XP at home; 2 run Mint Linux): 1024 x 768 every time! In my school: 3 machines running Ubuntu: 1024 x 768 Notary's office down the road (4 x Windows 2000 and 1 x Ubuntu): 4 at 1024 x 768, 1 at 1280 x 1024 1 G3 iMac: 1024 x 768 We run (at home): MacMini PPC: 1024 x 768 (hey, wow, it still runs with that monitor I fished out of a rubbish bin in front of Tesco in St Andrews 7 years ago!) G4 Windtunnel: 1st monitor at 1400 x 1050 2nd monitor at 1024 x 768 No-name-bits-n-bobs P4 running Ubuntu: 1024 x 768 G4 iBook: 1024 x 768 P2 running DOS with GEM GUI: 800 x 600 SO: unless you are going to send me a standalone to run with DOS [ and I only have the blasted thing ($5) because the Bulgarian Dept. of education think it is a good thing to drag 15 year olds through PASCAL ] . . . . . . . ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Snow Leopard
Am I right in understanding that end users need to make a decision as to whether or not Safari/Firefox runs as 32 bit or 64 bit? In my experience most users don't understand what things like this mean. Or even what it means for an app to be PPC, Intel or Universal Binary (last week I had to spend 10 minutes explaining that difference to a long-time Mac user). If the need for setting browsers to run as 32 bit is true then anyone relying on distributing Rev apps is in for a lot of support calls -- especially if browsers on Snow Leopard are running as 32 bit by default. The only appropriate solution to this would be for RunRev to build 64 bit versions of at least revlets, and to be able to do some browser detection and offer the user the appropriate revlet. Bernard On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 12:28 AM, Sarah Reicheltsarah.reich...@gmail.com wrote: Was Safari set to 32 bit or 64 bit? Same for Firefox? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Launch another app from my standalone
LOL. Let me try double spacing. My email client is obviously still messed from a couple months ago when I had a total network-wide crash of all my computers. Try: put the defaultFolder into tOrigDefaultFolder set the defaultFolder to C:\theDirTheExeIsIn -- Put actual dir the exe is in here launch MyProgram.exe -- Put the actual name of the exe here set the defaultFolder to tOrigDefaultFolder -- Puts the defaultFolder back where it was Aloha from Hawaii Jim Bufalini ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Launch another app from my standalone
Jim, The docs give the it example - so I used it verbatim. There are not two launch statements. The 'get shell' is a script in another button I was trying too. But I got the same error. Guess this is all to do with the defaultFolder. The reason I wanted to use it was that I have no way to know the actual pathname. Whilst there are ways to get this, I wanted to keep it real simple, because after all, everything is in the same folder. Is it necessary to 'put' and 'set' the defaultFolder if the full pathname is not used? Thanks, Adrian On 30 Aug 2009, at 10:17, Jim Bufalini wrote: Everything wrapped. :-( Should have looked like this: Stop using it. Your code snippet does not show what it is set to. What is the default folder being set to? What are you launching? Why do you have two launch statements? Try: put the defaultFolder into tOrigDefaultFolder set the defaultFolder to C:\theDirTheExeIsIn -- Put actual dir the EXE is in here launch MyProgram.exe -- Put the actual name of the exe here set the defaultFolder to tOrigDefaultFolder -- Puts the defaultFolder back where it was Aloha from Hawaii Jim Bufalini ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: another PHP-Revlet question
Le 30-août-09 à 00:50, Sivakatirswami a écrit : Yves: I second Dave's idea. Are you sure it does not have what you need: POST tUploadData to url tURL put it into tServerResponse I use this a lot... (not tested in revlet) Christian Langers wrote: Hi Yves, may it be : put http://www.mondomaine.com/myfunctionfile.php? var=urlencode(tVar) into tURL put URL(File:tURL) into myNewVar using $_GET[var] in PHP and echo the result ? Greets, Christian Hi list, Thanks for the many answers if I use the script above (with POST) , I get an answer BUT if I use a php function with as last line of the PHP code :return $var; I get in my it variable the ext of the function !! if I use the same php function with as last line of the PHP code : echo $var; then I get the appropriate answer srange ? but it works Greetings. Yves COPPE yvesco...@skynet.be ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Snow Leopard
What the RunRev team could do, is offer a 64-bit version of the plug-in, while leaving the revWebPlayer application itself in 32-bit - that's the advantage of using a separate helper application inside which to run the actual stacks. Jan Schenkel = Quartam Reports PDF Library for Revolution http://www.quartam.com = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) --- On Sun, 8/30/09, Bernard Devlin bdrun...@gmail.com wrote: From: Bernard Devlin bdrun...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Snow Leopard To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Date: Sunday, August 30, 2009, 2:40 AM Am I right in understanding that end users need to make a decision as to whether or not Safari/Firefox runs as 32 bit or 64 bit? In my experience most users don't understand what things like this mean. Or even what it means for an app to be PPC, Intel or Universal Binary (last week I had to spend 10 minutes explaining that difference to a long-time Mac user). If the need for setting browsers to run as 32 bit is true then anyone relying on distributing Rev apps is in for a lot of support calls -- especially if browsers on Snow Leopard are running as 32 bit by default. The only appropriate solution to this would be for RunRev to build 64 bit versions of at least revlets, and to be able to do some browser detection and offer the user the appropriate revlet. Bernard On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 12:28 AM, Sarah Reicheltsarah.reich...@gmail.com wrote: Was Safari set to 32 bit or 64 bit? Same for Firefox? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Launch another app from my standalone
Jim, Double spacing works for me. I don't want to give an explicit full pathname because someone else (user) will be saving the Folder (containing all the exe's for use) and I cannot guarantee it will be in the path I might specify. Thought I could save requiring full pathname by the use of the docs example: set the defaultFolder to it launch MyProgram.exe launch it So are the docs are really incomplete by not giving a full contextual example. Does the code need to be: put defaultFolder into tOrigDefaultFolder set the defaultFolder --(what do I put here as the actual directory if its not a full pathname?) launch MyProgram.exe set the tOrigDefaultFolder If so, do I still need to specify a full pathname, or can I somehow refer to the defaultFolder Thanks, Adrian On 30 Aug 2009, at 11:09, Jim Bufalini wrote: LOL. Let me try double spacing. My email client is obviously still messed from a couple months ago when I had a total network-wide crash of all my computers. Try: put the defaultFolder into tOrigDefaultFolder set the defaultFolder to C:\theDirTheExeIsIn -- Put actual dir the exe is in here launch MyProgram.exe -- Put the actual name of the exe here set the defaultFolder to tOrigDefaultFolder -- Puts the defaultFolder back where it was Aloha from Hawaii Jim Bufalini ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: A Mac Question
What I did when I was testing out tRev was go to the Plugins folder and move everything labelled GLX or Galaxy to another folder. Then, when I reverted to GLX-use only, I moved all of those things back into the Plugins folder. -- Nicolas Cueto ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: QTVR + Rev + SL = crash (was: Snow Leopard)
False alarm - it was an old version of Default Folder X causing the problems... Ian On 29 Aug 2009, at 21:54, Ian Wood wrote: Oh cr*p. Just tested in Rev Studio 3.5 gm2 and RevMedia 4.0.0 on 10.6: Make new stack. Add a QT Player object from the tools palette. Open inspector, click on source/filename button. Choose a QTVR file on the HD, click 'Open' in the file dialog. Instant crash for Rev, every time, with regular report window. EDIT for comparison purposes I just tried some regular video files from a variety of sources and they are giving the same crash. I'll submit a proper bug report when a better net connection is nearby, but until then, has anyone successfully opened anything in a player object on 10.6? Even JPEGs are crashing it! :-( Ian On 29 Aug 2009, at 11:17, Ian Wood revl...@azurevision.co.uk wrote: QTVR support has been dropped from QT X. :-( Ian ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Launch another app from my standalone
Dear Adrian, Jim, The docs give the it example - so I used it verbatim. In general, my stock advise is don't use it unless you are absolutely sure that it has just been set (as in right after a get). There are too many handlers that set it. When you get to using sends and communications, it's a tossup as to what is actually in it. There are not two launch statements. Your snippet had: launch MyProgram.exe launch it I see the word launch twice. Maybe I'm getting old and double vision? ;-) The 'get shell' is a script in another button I was trying too. But I got the same error. Guess this is all to do with the defaultFolder. The reason I wanted to use it was that I have no way to know the actual pathname. YOU don't know the pathname? RunRev is a programming language, not a psychic. Whilst there are ways to get this, I wanted to keep it real simple, because after all, everything is in the same folder. Same folder? Which folder? When running in the IDE, the defaultFolder is going to be where you launched Revolution.exe from. After you build a standalone, it will be where your EXE launches from. Better to be explicit. Simplicity is actually taking the time to not waste time. Is it necessary to 'put' and 'set' the defaultFolder if the full pathname is not used? The put and set from/to tOrigDefaultFolder, in my example, in not necessary. It's just good practice. Setting the defaultFolder is persistent, which unlike some other sets revert at the end of a handler. So, setting the itemDelimiter will revert after a handler finishes, but the defaultFolder won't. Sometime in the future, it's a good bet that you will write a handler that assumes the default directory. If you have changed it because of some external program you needed to call today, which you will no doubt forget you did 4-weeks from now, you will be posting to this list again, then asking why something else doesn't work. ;-) Again, simplicity is actually taking the time to not waste time. Aloha from Hawaii Jim Bufalini ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Launch another app from my standalone
Dear Adrian, Jim, Double spacing works for me. Apologies for the poorly formatted posts. I don't want to give an explicit full pathname because someone else (user) will be saving the Folder (containing all the exe's for use) and I cannot guarantee it will be in the path I might specify. So, you need to grab the path and filename they specify, at the time they specify it, and store it somewhere. Thought I could save requiring full pathname by the use of the docs example: set the defaultFolder to it launch MyProgram.exe launch it Nope. Now I understand what you are thinking. You thought by using it, RunRev would magically find the location of an EXE on a user's hard drive and launch it. Doesn't work that way. You have to know where it is. So are the docs are really incomplete by not giving a full contextual example. Docs are hard to write because the writer writes to an audience level but the audience can be outside the considerations of the writer. Does the code need to be: put defaultFolder into tOrigDefaultFolder set the defaultFolder --(what do I put here as the actual directory if its not a full pathname?) You need to store it when the user saves and recall here. launch MyProgram.exe set the tOrigDefaultFolder If so, do I still need to specify a full pathname, or can I somehow refer to the defaultFolder You need to specify the full path name. This is so in any programming language. Aloha from Hawaii, Jim Bufalini ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Conference schedule
To help plan your viewing of the RunRevLive09 webcasts, here's where to view the schedule: http://www.runrevlive.com/schedule/day-zero/ http://www.runrevlive.com/schedule/day-one/ http://www.runrevlive.com/schedule/day-two/ There's also http://www.runrevlive.com/schedule/day-plus/, but it says very little, naturally. George ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: A Mac Question
Nicolas, It's really easy to stop GLX2 from being part of Revolution. There is only ONE file that makes GLX2 work: GLX2 Code.rev Move it from, or compress it in the third party plugins folder and GLX2 no longer comes alive when you start Revolution. Best, Jerry Daniels Watch tRev - The Movie http://reveditor.com/trev-the-movie On Aug 30, 2009, at 5:43 AM, Nicolas Cueto wrote: What I did when I was testing out tRev was go to the Plugins folder and move everything labelled GLX or Galaxy to another folder. Then, when I reverted to GLX-use only, I moved all of those things back into the Plugins folder. -- Nicolas Cueto ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Backdrop hiding standalone window
Hi I have a stack with a menu option to hide/show the backdrop In the IDE everything works as it should, however, in the standalone things don't. Specifically when the backdrop is visible and I drag the standalone's window it goes 'behind' the backdrop. The only way to regain control of the app then is to force quit from the Task Manager and run the app again. I put the following handler in the card script of each card in the stack, hoping that it would bring the stack back to the front again, with no affect. on mouseDownInBackdrop toplevel stack backdropTest end mousedowninbackdrop I searched the Quality Centre for related problems but came up empty. Has anyone else experienced this? Is there a workaround? At present I have had to disable the Show/Hide option in the menu bar but I would like to be able to provide it. I'm using revEnterprise 4.0 on Windows XP sp3 Thanks in advance. Regards Ian McKnight iangmckni...@googlemail.com === ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Backdrop hiding standalone window
Just get rid of the backdrop: more trouble than it's worth and can really cheese-off end-users who may want to access stuff on their desktop at the same time as your app is running. OR, if you really feel the urge to have some sort of backdrop use a vast substack with a neutral colour/texture that gets pushed to the back when it is opened; make sure it stays there even when end-users click on it: http://mathewson.110mb.com/FILEZ/Backdrop-O-Matic.rev.zip Ian McKnight wrote: Hi I have a stack with a menu option to hide/show the backdrop In the IDE everything works as it should, however, in the standalone things don't. Specifically when the backdrop is visible and I drag the standalone's window it goes 'behind' the backdrop. The only way to regain control of the app then is to force quit from the Task Manager and run the app again. I put the following handler in the card script of each card in the stack, hoping that it would bring the stack back to the front again, with no affect. on mouseDownInBackdrop toplevel stack backdropTest end mousedowninbackdrop I searched the Quality Centre for related problems but came up empty. Has anyone else experienced this? Is there a workaround? At present I have had to disable the Show/Hide option in the menu bar but I would like to be able to provide it. I'm using revEnterprise 4.0 on Windows XP sp3 Thanks in advance. Regards Ian McKnight iangmckni...@googlemail.com === ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Backdrop hiding standalone window
Hi Richmond Thanks for the quick reply and the example stack. I'm incorporating its ideas into my stack almost as I type! 2009/8/30 Richmond Mathewson richmondmathew...@gmail.com: Just get rid of the backdrop: more trouble than it's worth and can really cheese-off end-users who may want to access stuff on their desktop at the same time as your app is running. OR, if you really feel the urge to have some sort of backdrop use a vast substack with a neutral colour/texture that gets pushed to the back when it is opened; make sure it stays there even when end-users click on it: http://mathewson.110mb.com/FILEZ/Backdrop-O-Matic.rev.zip Ian McKnight wrote: Hi I have a stack with a menu option to hide/show the backdrop In the IDE everything works as it should, however, in the standalone things don't. Specifically when the backdrop is visible and I drag the standalone's window it goes 'behind' the backdrop. The only way to regain control of the app then is to force quit from the Task Manager and run the app again. I put the following handler in the card script of each card in the stack, hoping that it would bring the stack back to the front again, with no affect. on mouseDownInBackdrop toplevel stack backdropTest end mousedowninbackdrop I searched the Quality Centre for related problems but came up empty. Has anyone else experienced this? Is there a workaround? At present I have had to disable the Show/Hide option in the menu bar but I would like to be able to provide it. I'm using revEnterprise 4.0 on Windows XP sp3 Thanks in advance. Regards Ian McKnight iangmckni...@googlemail.com === ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Regards Ian McKnight iangmckni...@googlemail.com === ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Launch another app from my standalone
Jim, When defaultFolder is set to a valid path C:\Program Files\MyApp.exe my code works. Is there a way to retrieve the location of the Folder in which the current application is running. Then set deafultFolder to that? Thanks for your perseverance with me on this topic. Adrian On 30 Aug 2009, at 11:09, Jim Bufalini wrote: Try: put the defaultFolder into tOrigDefaultFolder set the defaultFolder to C:\theDirTheExeIsIn -- Put actual dir the exe is in here launch MyProgram.exe -- Put the actual name of the exe here set the defaultFolder to tOrigDefaultFolder -- Puts the defaultFolder back where it was ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Launch another app from my standalone
Im hoping Trevor won't mind me sharing this little snippet of code: FUNCTION getPathToFile pFile put the filename of this stack into the theFile set the itemdelimiter to slash put pFile into the last item of theFile return theFile END getPathToFile To use: put getPathFile(filename you want to launch) into tFile launch tFile That should do it. len morgan Adrian Williams wrote: Jim, When defaultFolder is set to a valid path C:\Program Files\MyApp.exe my code works. Is there a way to retrieve the location of the Folder in which the current application is running. Then set deafultFolder to that? Thanks for your perseverance with me on this topic. Adrian On 30 Aug 2009, at 11:09, Jim Bufalini wrote: Try: put the defaultFolder into tOrigDefaultFolder set the defaultFolder to C:\theDirTheExeIsIn -- Put actual dir the exe is in here launch MyProgram.exe -- Put the actual name of the exe here set the defaultFolder to tOrigDefaultFolder -- Puts the defaultFolder back where it was ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Launch another app from my standalone
Len, Thanks for this. Looks like just what I need! I guess the FUNCTION can go in on openStack and the 'put' part in a card or button script? Adrian On 30 Aug 2009, at 17:24, Len Morgan wrote: Im hoping Trevor won't mind me sharing this little snippet of code: FUNCTION getPathToFile pFile put the filename of this stack into the theFile set the itemdelimiter to slash put pFile into the last item of theFile return theFile END getPathToFile To use: put getPathFile(filename you want to launch) into tFile launch tFile That should do it. len morgan Adrian Williams wrote: Jim, When defaultFolder is set to a valid path C:\Program Files \MyApp.exe my code works. Is there a way to retrieve the location of the Folder in which the current application is running. Then set deafultFolder to that? Thanks for your perseverance with me on this topic. Adrian On 30 Aug 2009, at 11:09, Jim Bufalini wrote: Try: put the defaultFolder into tOrigDefaultFolder set the defaultFolder to C:\theDirTheExeIsIn -- Put actual dir the exe is in here launch MyProgram.exe -- Put the actual name of the exe here set the defaultFolder to tOrigDefaultFolder -- Puts the defaultFolder back where it was ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Launch another app from my standalone
Len, I'm sure we're getting there! Your explanations are great. Just tried this all in the same script: -- function getPathToFile pFile put the filename of this stack into theFile --removed unwanted 'the' from your original set the itemdelimiter to slash put pFile into the last item of theFile return theFile getPathToFile --end function --Use the function put getPathFile(My App.exe) into tFile launch tFile but get an error if I use a space in the name of the file. Error is: Function: separator is not a ',' Object Uninstall 3b Lineput getPathFile(My App.exe) into tFile HintApp.exe The filename has a space - is that a problem for a function? Thanks, Adrian On 30 Aug 2009, at 18:30, Len Morgan wrote: Adrian, Yes, you can define the function anywhere you like as long as it's in the message path when you want to execute it. But you don't DEFINE the function in the openStack. That is a function (handler actually) all it's own but you can define it in the same script. Remember that it's going to be CALLED when you need it. Since the file name of this stack isn't going to change, the FUNCTION should be able to execute it at any time. len Adrian Williams wrote: Len, Thanks for this. Looks like just what I need! I guess the FUNCTION can go in on openStack and the 'put' part in a card or button script? Adrian On 30 Aug 2009, at 17:24, Len Morgan wrote: Im hoping Trevor won't mind me sharing this little snippet of code: FUNCTION getPathToFile pFile put the filename of this stack into the theFile set the itemdelimiter to slash put pFile into the last item of theFile return theFile END getPathToFile To use: put getPathFile(filename you want to launch) into tFile launch tFile That should do it. len morgan Adrian Williams wrote: Jim, When defaultFolder is set to a valid path C:\Program Files \MyApp.exe my code works. Is there a way to retrieve the location of the Folder in which the current application is running. Then set deafultFolder to that? Thanks for your perseverance with me on this topic. Adrian On 30 Aug 2009, at 11:09, Jim Bufalini wrote: Try: put the defaultFolder into tOrigDefaultFolder set the defaultFolder to C:\theDirTheExeIsIn -- Put actual dir the exe is in here launch MyProgram.exe -- Put the actual name of the exe here set the defaultFolder to tOrigDefaultFolder -- Puts the defaultFolder back where it was ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Launch another app from my standalone
Adrian, Yes, you can define the function anywhere you like as long as it's in the message path when you want to execute it. But you don't DEFINE the function in the openStack. That is a function (handler actually) all it's own but you can define it in the same script. Remember that it's going to be CALLED when you need it. Since the file name of this stack isn't going to change, the FUNCTION should be able to execute it at any time. len Adrian Williams wrote: Len, Thanks for this. Looks like just what I need! I guess the FUNCTION can go in on openStack and the 'put' part in a card or button script? Adrian On 30 Aug 2009, at 17:24, Len Morgan wrote: Im hoping Trevor won't mind me sharing this little snippet of code: FUNCTION getPathToFile pFile put the filename of this stack into the theFile set the itemdelimiter to slash put pFile into the last item of theFile return theFile END getPathToFile To use: put getPathFile(filename you want to launch) into tFile launch tFile That should do it. len morgan Adrian Williams wrote: Jim, When defaultFolder is set to a valid path C:\Program Files\MyApp.exe my code works. Is there a way to retrieve the location of the Folder in which the current application is running. Then set deafultFolder to that? Thanks for your perseverance with me on this topic. Adrian On 30 Aug 2009, at 11:09, Jim Bufalini wrote: Try: put the defaultFolder into tOrigDefaultFolder set the defaultFolder to C:\theDirTheExeIsIn -- Put actual dir the exe is in here launch MyProgram.exe -- Put the actual name of the exe here set the defaultFolder to tOrigDefaultFolder -- Puts the defaultFolder back where it was ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Launch another app from my standalone
Adrian, SOAPBOX state='mount' Before we go any further, if you're going to get MEANINGFUL help from this forum, you've got to be much more specific when you ask a question or show a code segment. For example: -- function getPathToFile pFile put the filename of this stack into theFile --removed unwanted 'the' from your original set the itemdelimiter to slash put pFile into the last item of theFile return theFile getPathToFile --end function is NOT a function definition! You've written it as if it was going to be executed as inline code. The fact that it might actually do it doesn't matter (in fact, this should throw an error because the getPathToFile is never DEFINED as a function. Why would you not write the above the way I did, i.e., FUNCTION getPathToFile pFile end FUNCTION ??? It uses fewer characters and is the syntacticly correct way to write rev code. The way you have written it, it appears you call getPathToFile with an argument of pFile, then execute 4 statements, then call getPathToFile AGAIN with no arguments. The '--function' and '--end function' are shown as comments. It's only because I wrote the original code (well, actually copied the code from something Trevor wrote) that I know you're trying to define a function. Many other people that might have far better answers than mine (Trevor's) might just skip your message because it makes no sense. /SOAPBOX Since there is a space in the filename, it interprets what you pass as TWO arguments when you've defined (hopefully) only a single argument. If you are going to hardcode the filename as you've shown below... --Use the function put getPathFile(My App.exe) into tFile launch tFile ... then you have to put the filename in quotes so that it will be interpreted as a single argument. You call to the function should be: put getPathToFile(My App.exe) into tFile or I believe if you wanted a more generic solution: put My Multiword App Name.exe into tFilename put getPathToFile(tFilename) would work. Sorry if it seemed like I was going off on you (I'm having a little difficulty with my 13 year old daughter doing what she is told and you're getting the heat for it :-( ) but I think you will find a lot more help here if you tell/show EXACTLY what you are doing that isn't working instead of trying to simplify things for us. It only makes the problem worse. You don't need to include ALL of your code, only the parts that aren't working or are relevant to that code. len ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Launch another app from my standalone
Hello Adrian, I've sort of re-written what Len suggested but without using a separate function or handler. You can just put the whole thing in where you need it. Eventually you may want to break out pieces of your code by using custom functions and commands but this should work. Scott Morrow Elementary Software (Now with 20% less chalk dust!) web http://elementarysoftware.com/ email sc...@elementarysoftware.com -- put the filename of this stack into tFilePath --tFilePath contains the full path to the mainstack put the itemDelimiter into tOldItemDelimiter -- remember what it was so we can set it back set the itemDelimiter to slash -- / this is the character that divides the path up for example-- C:/aFolder/anotherFolder/ aFileOrProgram -- because / is now the itemDelimiter -- aFileOrProgram would be the last item ( item -1 ) in tFilePath -- on Windows, the path to the standalone, -- or in the rev IDE the path to the stack file, -- is the last item ( item -1 ) of tFilePath -- the path to the folder enclosing the stack file or MyStandalone.exe -- is the second to the last item of tFilePath second to the last is not rev code -- we want to put the name of the application you want to launch -- after the enclosing folder -- However -- on Mac OSX, if this code is being executed from a standalone application, -- then the path to the folder enclosing the standalone is different -- the fileName of this stack (tFilePath) will look something like: -- /Macintosh HD/Applications/MyStandalone.app/Contents/MacOS/ MyStandalone -- which makes the enclosing folder item -5 of tFilePath -- so we will need to know which platform we are on -- in order to determine what part of the path to use if (the platform is MacOS) AND (the environment is not development) then -- Mac Standalone put item 1 to -5 of tFilePath / theAppName.app into tAppPath else -- Windows or rev IDE put theAppName.exe into item -1 of tAppPath -- example-- put Photoshop.exe into item -1 of tFilePath end if -- in your code, replace theAppName.exe or theAppName.app -- with the actual name of the program you want to open -- Keep it inside quotation marks launch tAppPath set the itemDelimiter to tOldItemDelimiter -- tidy up --- -- here it is one more time without all the comments -- watch line wraps in the email --- put the filename of this stack into tFilePath put the itemDelimiter into tOldItemDelimiter set the itemDelimiter to slash if (the platform is MacOS) AND (the environment is not development) then -- Mac Standalone put item 1 to -5 of tFilePath / theAppName.app into tAppPath else -- Windows or rev IDE put theAppName.exe into item -1 of tAppPath -- example-- put Photoshop.exe into item -1 of tFilePath end if launch tAppPath set the itemDelimiter to tOldItemDelimiter -- tidy up ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Snow Leopard
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Bernard Devlinbdrun...@gmail.com wrote: Am I right in understanding that end users need to make a decision as to whether or not Safari/Firefox runs as 32 bit or 64 bit? Early adopters of Snow Leopard who are testing the alpha version of the RunRev plugin will need to set Safari to 32 bit. Firefox 3.5.2 (the latest version) is only 32 bit anyway, so has no problem. In my experience most users don't understand what things like this mean. Or even what it means for an app to be PPC, Intel or Universal Binary (last week I had to spend 10 minutes explaining that difference to a long-time Mac user). Agreed, but I don't think that type of user is likely to be testing alpha software either :-) If the need for setting browsers to run as 32 bit is true then anyone relying on distributing Rev apps is in for a lot of support calls -- especially if browsers on Snow Leopard are running as 32 bit by default. Apps built with Revolution are not affected by this. It is only revlets using the revWeb plugin. On Snow Leopard, Safari runs as 64 bit by default and this does need to be changed to allow testing revlets. The only appropriate solution to this would be for RunRev to build 64 bit versions of at least revlets, and to be able to do some browser detection and offer the user the appropriate revlet. Hopefully Rev will become totally 64 bit over the next year or so, but as a start, only the revWeb plugin needs to be made 64 bit. Hopefully this will not be long coming. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[ANN] tRev's Raptor feature now available!
tRev watchers, admirers, and users... We have just released tRev's latest feature: Raptor. If you haven't heard about Raptor, there's a short (3 minutes), easy-to-watch (not fuzzy) video of it working on our site. Click this link here to watch it in action. http://reveditor.com/raptor Raptor lets you create a your own property editor within the tRev script editor. Any properties you wish. A bunch of us noticed that for any specific object, we really only repeatedly set a half dozen properties, but it was impossible to predict which six those would be. And having to visit three different panes of the Revolution property inspector in order to this is...well...a pain! Enter Raptor...he uses tRev's auto-complete feature to create a basic set of properties for an object with very few keystrokes. These little customized prop editors appear as formatted block comments. Like so: /* basic.properties set the name of me to mac switcher set the label of me to [empty] set the tooltip of me to Edit (pointer) tool - select and... set the style of me to transparent set the visible of me to true set the opaque of me to false set the showname of me to false set the autohilite of me to false set the showfocusborder of me to false set the sharedhilite of me to false set the traversalon of me to false set the default of me to false set the disabled of me to false set the behavior of me to [empty] made with tRev http://reveditor.com basic.properties */ Those values at the end of each line appear as links in tRev. We already use links to navigate from a handler call to its handler. Now Raptor uses links to set properties. If the property value is a true, then clicking it will set it to false. If it's text, you'll get a spiffy embedded dialog that lets you edit the text value. If you are a tRev owner, use your Check for Updates menu item beneath the Help menu, and you'll see you have a component update. That'll be Raptor. Or you might have noticed the Update Available link in the lower left corner of your editor. NOTE: You will need to quit and restart after updating as the tRev message broker has been modified. Best, Jerry Daniels Watch tRev's Raptor Movie http://reveditor.com/raptor ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Launch another app from my standalone
Thank you Scott for stating what I was trying to say far more diplomatically than I could given my mood at the time. Civility rocks! len Scott Morrow wrote: Hello Adrian, I've sort of re-written what Len suggested but without using a separate function or handler. You can just put the whole thing in where you need it. Eventually you may want to break out pieces of your code by using custom functions and commands but this should work. Scott Morrow Elementary Software (Now with 20% less chalk dust!) web http://elementarysoftware.com/ email sc...@elementarysoftware.com -- put the filename of this stack into tFilePath --tFilePath contains the full path to the mainstack put the itemDelimiter into tOldItemDelimiter -- remember what it was so we can set it back set the itemDelimiter to slash -- / this is the character that divides the path up for example-- C:/aFolder/anotherFolder/aFileOrProgram -- because / is now the itemDelimiter -- aFileOrProgram would be the last item ( item -1 ) in tFilePath -- on Windows, the path to the standalone, -- or in the rev IDE the path to the stack file, -- is the last item ( item -1 ) of tFilePath -- the path to the folder enclosing the stack file or MyStandalone.exe -- is the second to the last item of tFilePath second to the last is not rev code -- we want to put the name of the application you want to launch -- after the enclosing folder -- However -- on Mac OSX, if this code is being executed from a standalone application, -- then the path to the folder enclosing the standalone is different -- the fileName of this stack (tFilePath) will look something like: -- /Macintosh HD/Applications/MyStandalone.app/Contents/MacOS/MyStandalone -- which makes the enclosing folder item -5 of tFilePath -- so we will need to know which platform we are on -- in order to determine what part of the path to use if (the platform is MacOS) AND (the environment is not development) then -- Mac Standalone put item 1 to -5 of tFilePath / theAppName.app into tAppPath else -- Windows or rev IDE put theAppName.exe into item -1 of tAppPath -- example-- put Photoshop.exe into item -1 of tFilePath end if -- in your code, replace theAppName.exe or theAppName.app -- with the actual name of the program you want to open-- Keep it inside quotation marks launch tAppPath set the itemDelimiter to tOldItemDelimiter -- tidy up --- -- here it is one more time without all the comments -- watch line wraps in the email --- put the filename of this stack into tFilePath put the itemDelimiter into tOldItemDelimiter set the itemDelimiter to slash if (the platform is MacOS) AND (the environment is not development) then -- Mac Standalone put item 1 to -5 of tFilePath / theAppName.app into tAppPath else -- Windows or rev IDE put theAppName.exe into item -1 of tAppPath -- example-- put Photoshop.exe into item -1 of tFilePath end if launch tAppPath set the itemDelimiter to tOldItemDelimiter -- tidy up ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
