Re: revlets, browsers, OSs and image formats

2009-12-10 Thread Andre.Bisseret

Firefox 3.5.5
Mac OSX 10.5.8
Seem's OK

Best regards from Grenoble
André

Le 9 déc. 09 à 17:28, Richmond Mathewson a écrit :


Please have a look at this:

http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/richmond/revletIMAGES.html

and then SHARE with the use-list the following:

Browser

Operating System

sincerely, Richmond Mathewson.
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Re: revlets, browsers, OSs and image formats

2009-12-10 Thread René Micout
Safari 4.0.4
MacOS X 10.6.2
OK

Bons souvenirs de Paris
René

 Le 9 déc. 09 à 17:28, Richmond Mathewson a écrit :
 
 Please have a look at this:
 
 http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/richmond/revletIMAGES.html
 
 and then SHARE with the use-list the following:
 
 Browser
 
 Operating System
 
 sincerely, Richmond Mathewson.
 
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Re: revlets, browsers, OSs and image formats

2009-12-10 Thread Bernard Devlin
I can't take part in this since there is still no revWeb plugin for Linux.

Bernard
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Re: revlets, browsers, OSs and image formats

2009-12-10 Thread Richmond Mathewson

On 12/10/09 12:25 PM, Bernard Devlin wrote:

I can't take part in this since there is still no revWeb plugin for Linux.

   


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Re: revlets, browsers, OSs and image formats

2009-12-10 Thread Thomas McGrath III

Safari 4.0.4

Macintosh OSX 10.5.8


Revlet and screenshot look pretty close to me.


Tom McGrath III
Lazy River Software
3mcgr...@comcast.net

iTunes Library Suite - libITS
Information and download can be found on this page:
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On Dec 9, 2009, at 11:28 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote:


Please have a look at this:

http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/richmond/revletIMAGES.html

and then SHARE with the use-list the following:

Browser

Operating System

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Re: bitXor 8 bytes of data

2009-12-10 Thread DunbarX
This is not just good natured banter. It is a poltergeist that lives in all 
x-talk programming, going way back to early HC.

I absolutely KNOW that I have had scripts fail, even though they are 
perfectly well constructed, and then just fix themselves while I am fiddling 
with 
them. This even though I am CERTAIN that I changed nothing pertinent during 
the fiddling.

Craig Newman


In a message dated 12/9/09 6:51:56 PM, a...@tweedly.net writes:


 Sometimes it's not enough to try something . you need to tell
 someone else that it still fails, and only then will it start working
 again :-)
 
 At least once a month, I start writing an email to the use-list
 explaining a problem (or sometimes just ranting about it :-), and by the
 time I have finished writing the email, including the one last try to
 copy/paste the failing code, the problem has mysteriously disappeared.
 

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Re: revlets, browsers, OSs and image formats

2009-12-10 Thread Thomas McGrath III

The white point looks different.

On Dec 10, 2009, at 9:16 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote:


Safari 4.0.4

Macintosh OSX 10.5.8


Revlet and screenshot look pretty close to me.


Tom McGrath III
Lazy River Software
3mcgr...@comcast.net

iTunes Library Suite - libITS
Information and download can be found on this page:
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On Dec 9, 2009, at 11:28 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote:


Please have a look at this:

http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/richmond/revletIMAGES.html

and then SHARE with the use-list the following:

Browser

Operating System

sincerely, Richmond Mathewson.
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Re: revlets, browsers, OSs and image formats

2009-12-10 Thread Medard
Thomas McGrath III mcgra...@mac.com wrote:

 The white point looks different.

iMac G5
Mac OS X 10.5.8
Safari 4.0.4

the template seems a bit darker:
(estimated with Pixie)

on the kitten whiskers:
- screen capture RVB=191,179,175
- revlet RVB= 212,209,209

-- 
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Re: revlets, browsers, OSs and image formats

2009-12-10 Thread stephen barncard
I am not sure how this matters to color if the color reference swatch on the
web page is one graphic saved as ?? png? and not the individual file types.
-
Stephen Barncard
San Francisco
http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev


2009/12/10 Medard liste.r...@medard.on-rev.com

 Thomas McGrath III mcgra...@mac.com wrote:

  The white point looks different.

 iMac G5
 Mac OS X 10.5.8
 Safari 4.0.4

 the template seems a bit darker:
 (estimated with Pixie)

 on the kitten whiskers:
 - screen capture RVB=191,179,175
 - revlet RVB= 212,209,209

 --
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Re: revlets, browsers, OSs and image formats

2009-12-10 Thread Jim Ault

[the template seems a bit darker:]
[The white point looks different.]

Note about the RGB values in Rev images

Do the following:
go to a Rev card with an image
choose pointer tool
right click on the image and do 'launch editor'
--in my case it is Photoshop
then inspect the exact RGB of each pixel

You will find each of these has a small offset such that the image in  
Rev is slightly darker.


This is a bummer when trying to edit images that overlay or surround  
in Rev.


I did not resolve how to compensate for this when I was working with  
an image project 2 years ago.

Hope this helps.


On Dec 10, 2009, at 8:11 AM, stephen barncard wrote:

I am not sure how this matters to color if the color reference  
swatch on the
web page is one graphic saved as ?? png? and not the individual file  
types.

-
Stephen Barncard
San Francisco
http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev


2009/12/10 Medard liste.r...@medard.on-rev.com


Thomas McGrath III mcgra...@mac.com wrote:


The white point looks different.


iMac G5
Mac OS X 10.5.8
Safari 4.0.4

the template seems a bit darker:
(estimated with Pixie)

on the kitten whiskers:
- screen capture RVB=191,179,175
- revlet RVB= 212,209,209

--
Dom^W Medard



Jim Ault
Las Vegas



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Re: Another Datagrid question

2009-12-10 Thread Trevor DeVore

On Dec 9, 2009, at 10:15 PM, william humphrey wrote:

How do you do a returninfield? It doesn't work if you put it in the  
group

script. I want to return one of the cells in the selected line of a
dataGroup when the return key is hit.


If you have an editable field in the Data Grid then there is no  
message trapping that would prevent you from receiving this message in  
the Data Grid script (I just tested).


If you are trying to trap returnInField in the built-in field editor  
then you need to customize the behavior script associated with it.


How Can I Customize The Field Editor Behavior?: http://lessons.runrev.com/spaces/lessons/manuals/datagrid/lessons/7338-How-Can-I-Customize-The-Field-Editor-Behavior- 



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Releasable Revolution Resources for Developers: 
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Re: revlets, browsers, OSs and image formats

2009-12-10 Thread Richmond Mathewson

On 12/10/09 6:11 PM, stephen barncard wrote:

I am not sure how this matters to color if the color reference swatch on the
web page is one graphic saved as ?? png? and not the individual file types.
-
   


web-page now modified to include the 4 original images:

http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/richmond/revletIMAGES.html

and, for those of you who care about this sort of thing, the cat is
now about 10 times bigger and currently asleep in front of our fireplace.
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Re: revlets, browsers, OSs and image formats

2009-12-10 Thread stephen barncard
Not to be a problem, Richmond, but it's still showing the same single jpg

SNAP.jpg
-
Stephen Barncard
San Francisco
http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev


2009/12/10 Richmond Mathewson richmondmathew...@gmail.com

 On 12/10/09 6:11 PM, stephen barncard wrote:

 I am not sure how this matters to color if the color reference swatch on
 the
 web page is one graphic saved as ?? png? and not the individual file
 types.
 -



 web-page now modified to include the 4 original images:


 http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/richmond/revletIMAGES.html

 and, for those of you who care about this sort of thing, the cat is
 now about 10 times bigger and currently asleep in front of our fireplace.

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Re: revlets, browsers, OSs and image formats

2009-12-10 Thread Richmond Mathewson

On 12/10/09 8:17 PM, stephen barncard wrote:

Not to be a problem, Richmond, but it's still showing the same single jpg

SNAP.jpg
-
   


Scroll down!
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Standalone ( revlet) not working: internet LIB missing?

2009-12-10 Thread Medard
I updated today a small stack, aimed at showing the weather forecast for
my town [The Weather Channel]

It works nicely, excepted for the forecast data, as they changed their
web page ;-)
-- set right

I tried to make a standalone to put it on the desktop 
-- but the app refuses to launch!
I tried also to build a revlet -- the plugin insists on bad revlet ;-

So, I wonder if the standalone needs more resources, such as an internet
lib, since it has to connect on the internet to get the forecast data...

Am I correct?
In this situation, what to do?



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Can a SQL data base update app when there is a change?

2009-12-10 Thread Bill Vlahos
I have an app that talks to a MySQL data base. This is fine for posting queries 
and updating records.

Is there a mechanism that tells my application when someone else updates the 
data base? When that happens I want to update the display in my app with the 
changes. I can do this with periodic queries but it would be much better to 
have a push system originating from the data base.

Bill Vlahos
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InfoWallet (http://www.infowallet.com) helps me remember the important details 
of my life.

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Tab Button question

2009-12-10 Thread DunbarX
I make a tab button and click on a tab. The tab hilites. A menuPick message 
is sent to the button.

But the menuPick message is not sent if the hilited tab is clicked again. 
Why should this be so? MouseDown and mouseUp are always sent. Thank goodness.

MenuPick is sent with similarly constructed objects like a combo box, where 
reselecting a previously selected (and showing) menuItem still sends the 
menuPick message.

Seems logical it ought to.

Thanks.

Craig Newman
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Re: Trevor's wonderful QT External and 30 inch monitors

2009-12-10 Thread Mark Talluto
On Dec 8, 2009, at 4:38 PM, Mark Talluto wrote:

 I am having a problem using the QT ext with the qtFlipMovie param set to 
 horizontal,yes
 On 24 inch and smaller monitors the videos flip just fine.  On 30 inch 
 monitors the video is not flipped.  Anyone else seeing that?

Some very helpful list members took a look at the problem on their own hardware 
while using our software and provided some helpful results.  In short, 
something is not working correctly with the QT external and flipping a video so 
that it appears mirrored on 30 inch displays.  Under certain conditions the 
video mirrored.  We are guessing it has something to do with the codec used but 
are not sure.  I am going to attempt to make a player that matches a 30inch 
display resolution on one of my 24inch displays and see if it renders the same 
results.  All findings will be sent to Trevor.  It is a free external so I 
understand this may not be a high priority.  Special thanks to Wolfgang Happe 
and Christopher Rosien for providing detailed results.


Best regards,

Mark Talluto
http://www.canelasoftware.com

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Scaling Groups?

2009-12-10 Thread Scott Rossi
Hi List:

Before I go off and try to reinvent the wheel, does anyone have a script
that will proportionally scale objects within a group relative to each
other?

I have several groups consisting of images and graphics, and I need to be
able to scale the individual objects in the group up and down, while keeping
their relative positions intact, not just their relative sizes.

Thanks for any suggestions.

Best Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia  Design


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Re: Tab Button question

2009-12-10 Thread Kay C Lan
The docs seem to fully explain the situation, in the Dictionary, under the
entry for menuPick it says:

(However, no menuPick message is sent when an already-chosen tab in a tabbed
button is clicked, since no menu is displayed.)

Might not be how you want it to behave, but it's clearly documented that
that's the way it is. Seems reasonable to me, FireFox, Safari and tRev don't
seem to do anything when I select the already active tab again. In my stacks
that use tabs I appreciate not wasting cycles on something that has already
been done.

On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 7:36 AM, dunb...@aol.com wrote:

 I make a tab button and click on a tab. The tab hilites. A menuPick message
 is sent to the button.

 But the menuPick message is not sent if the hilited tab is clicked again.
 Why should this be so? MouseDown and mouseUp are always sent. Thank
 goodness.

 MenuPick is sent with similarly constructed objects like a combo box, where
 reselecting a previously selected (and showing) menuItem still sends the
 menuPick message.

 Seems logical it ought to.

 Thanks.

 Craig Newman
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Re: Scaling Groups?

2009-12-10 Thread Jerry Daniels

Scott,

I have no code for you, only a thought on the easiest way I could  
imagine:


- calculate orig width / new width ratio of the meta group
- calculate orig height / new height ratio of the meta group
- I would scale the individual objects' height and width using the  
ratios above

- I would scale the locations of each object with the same ratios
- I would then place the new resized objects at their new locations

But you probably know all that. I was fun to type it out, tho.

Best,

Jerry Daniels

The latest Rev Editor Video:
http://reveditor.com/feature-friday-drag-n-drop-your-handlers

On Dec 10, 2009, at 7:21 PM, Scott Rossi wrote:


Hi List:

Before I go off and try to reinvent the wheel, does anyone have a  
script

that will proportionally scale objects within a group relative to each
other?

I have several groups consisting of images and graphics, and I need  
to be
able to scale the individual objects in the group up and down, while  
keeping

their relative positions intact, not just their relative sizes.

Thanks for any suggestions.

Best Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia  Design


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Re: Scaling Groups?

2009-12-10 Thread David Bovill
I do have some code that does exactly this - not on this computer though -
I'll try to look it out for you later tomorrow? I'll have to check it though
as it is a few years old (in the early days of creating nested widgets), and
well may be fine but may be ugly as hell :)
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Re: Scaling Groups?

2009-12-10 Thread Scott Rossi
Thanks to all who replied about my scaling groups question.
As it turns out, I was able to come up with a solution in about a tenth of
the time
I thought it would take (and I was dreading it).

The biggest issue for me is Rev¹s reliance on integers for object
positioning --
this is a serious limitation when it comes to scaling because object
dimensions can get heavily distorted when the objects are repeatedly scaled.
I needed a way to keep object dimensions from getting too messed up if the
user wants
to size a group up and down repeatedly.  The only way I know how to do this
is to store the original dimensions and refer to those whenever an object is
scaled.
The following code does this, called from a scrollbar whose start/end values
are 50 and 200 (equates to 50% and 200%).  Objects are initialized with
their
³starting² specs, and since those specs are always used in the code, scaling
is as
distortion-free as possible:

on scrollbarDrag pValue
   scaleGroup long id of grp ³my great group²,pValue
end scrollbarDrag

on scaleGroup pGroup,pValue
   initObjSpecs pGroup
   put pValue/100 into tPercent
   put loc of pGroup into masterLoc
   lock screen
   set width of pGroup to the uDefaultWidth of pGroup * tPercent
   set height of pGroup to the uDefaultHeight of pGroup * tPercent
   set loc of pGroup to masterLoc
   repeat with N = 1 to number of controls of pGroup
  put long id of control N of pGroup into tObj
  set width of tObj to (item 1 of the uOrigDimensions of tObj *
tPercent)
  set height of tObj to (item 2 of the uOrigDimensions of tObj *
tPercent)
  put item 1 of masterLoc - (item 1 of the uOrigOffset of tObj *
tPercent) into X
  put item 2 of masterLoc - (item 2 of the uOrigOffset of tObj *
tPercent) into Y
  set loc of tObj to X,Y
   end repeat
   set loc of pGroup to masterLoc
   unlock screen
end scaleGroup

on initObjSpecs pGroup
   put loc of pGroup into masterLoc
   if the uDefaultWidth of pGroup =  then set the uDefaultWidth of pGroup
to width of pGroup
   if the uDefaultHeight of pGroup =  then set the uDefaultHeight of
pGroup to height of pGroup
   put the number of controls of pGroup into objCount
   repeat with N = 1 to objCount
  put long id of control N of pGroup into tObj
  if the uOrigOffset of tObj   and the uOrigDimensions of tObj  
then next repeat
  put loc of tObj into objLoc
  set the uOrigOffset of tObj to item 1 of masterLoc - item 1 of
objLoc,item 2 of masterLoc - item 2 of objLoc
  set the uOrigDimensions of tObj to width of tObj,height of tObj
   end repeat
end initObjSpecs


Maybe other folks will find this useful.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia  Design

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Re: Tab Button question

2009-12-10 Thread DunbarX
I must read the dictionary more.

I was trying to find info on the object, the button, and it didn't occur to 
me to read up on the message. This makes some sort of sense, I guess, in 
hindsight, but still, I miss a Goodman-like resource.

Where is Dan, anyway?

Thanks for the research.

Craig Newman



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Printing a player image in XP

2009-12-10 Thread hyperchris
I need to display TIFFs and QuickTime is the only way I know to do that in Rev. 
So, I make sure XP has QT installed and then I use the Player object. 
Everything displays fine.


When I print in XP, though, i get mush. The Players are just a grey box 
(everything else on the page prints fine.) I also tried Printing to PDF to see 
if that helped but no dice. 


It works fine in OSX so the approach appears to be sound. I did consider a 
workaround of 'export snapshot as PNG' and then putting that image in front of 
the Player. However, the QT approach is already a little pokey and so I'd like 
to find a better solution. (It also might snapshot the print dialogue unless it 
supports off-screen shots!)


Any thoughts, ideas, magical incantations ???  TY ... Chris
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Re: Tab Button question

2009-12-10 Thread Kay C Lan
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 1:08 PM, dunb...@aol.com wrote:

 I must read the dictionary more.


Shouldn't we all :-)
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Re: Scaling Groups?

2009-12-10 Thread Scott Morrow
Hello Scott,

Thanks for posting your script.  I just tried it on a small collection of 
controls and images and it worked well.  Much appreciated.

Scott Morrow

Elementary Software
(Now with 20% less chalk dust!)
web   http://elementarysoftware.com/
email sc...@elementarysoftware.com
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On Dec 10, 2009, at 9:00 PM, Scott Rossi wrote:

 Thanks to all who replied about my scaling groups question.
 As it turns out, I was able to come up with a solution in about a tenth of
 the time
 I thought it would take (and I was dreading it).
 
 The biggest issue for me is Rev’s reliance on integers for object
 positioning --
 this is a serious limitation when it comes to scaling because object
 dimensions can get heavily distorted when the objects are repeatedly scaled.
 I needed a way to keep object dimensions from getting too messed up if the
 user wants
 to size a group up and down repeatedly.  The only way I know how to do this
 is to store the original dimensions and refer to those whenever an object is
 scaled.
 The following code does this, called from a scrollbar whose start/end values
 are 50 and 200 (equates to 50% and 200%).  Objects are initialized with
 their
 “starting” specs, and since those specs are always used in the code, scaling
 is as
 distortion-free as possible:
 
 on scrollbarDrag pValue
   scaleGroup long id of grp “my great group”,pValue
 end scrollbarDrag
 
 on scaleGroup pGroup,pValue
   initObjSpecs pGroup
   put pValue/100 into tPercent
   put loc of pGroup into masterLoc
   lock screen
   set width of pGroup to the uDefaultWidth of pGroup * tPercent
   set height of pGroup to the uDefaultHeight of pGroup * tPercent
   set loc of pGroup to masterLoc
   repeat with N = 1 to number of controls of pGroup
  put long id of control N of pGroup into tObj
  set width of tObj to (item 1 of the uOrigDimensions of tObj *
 tPercent)
  set height of tObj to (item 2 of the uOrigDimensions of tObj *
 tPercent)
  put item 1 of masterLoc - (item 1 of the uOrigOffset of tObj *
 tPercent) into X
  put item 2 of masterLoc - (item 2 of the uOrigOffset of tObj *
 tPercent) into Y
  set loc of tObj to X,Y
   end repeat
   set loc of pGroup to masterLoc
   unlock screen
 end scaleGroup
 
 on initObjSpecs pGroup
   put loc of pGroup into masterLoc
   if the uDefaultWidth of pGroup =  then set the uDefaultWidth of pGroup
 to width of pGroup
   if the uDefaultHeight of pGroup =  then set the uDefaultHeight of
 pGroup to height of pGroup
   put the number of controls of pGroup into objCount
   repeat with N = 1 to objCount
  put long id of control N of pGroup into tObj
  if the uOrigOffset of tObj   and the uOrigDimensions of tObj  
 then next repeat
  put loc of tObj into objLoc
  set the uOrigOffset of tObj to item 1 of masterLoc - item 1 of
 objLoc,item 2 of masterLoc - item 2 of objLoc
  set the uOrigDimensions of tObj to width of tObj,height of tObj
   end repeat
 end initObjSpecs
 
 
 Maybe other folks will find this useful.
 
 Regards,
 
 Scott Rossi
 Creative Director
 Tactile Media, Multimedia  Design
 
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Re: Scaling Groups?

2009-12-10 Thread Dick Kriesel
Thanks, Scott.  Since you still have almost ninety percent of the time left,
what do you think of scaling the content of fields using tPercent? That
could be good when the text is too small for the old reading glasses.

-- Dick


On 12/10/09 9:00 PM, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com wrote:

 Thanks to all who replied about my scaling groups question.
 As it turns out, I was able to come up with a solution in about a tenth of
 the time
 I thought it would take (and I was dreading it).
 
 The biggest issue for me is Rev¹s reliance on integers for object
 positioning --
 this is a serious limitation when it comes to scaling because object
 dimensions can get heavily distorted when the objects are repeatedly scaled.
 I needed a way to keep object dimensions from getting too messed up if the
 user wants
 to size a group up and down repeatedly.  The only way I know how to do this
 is to store the original dimensions and refer to those whenever an object is
 scaled.
 The following code does this, called from a scrollbar whose start/end values
 are 50 and 200 (equates to 50% and 200%).  Objects are initialized with
 their
 ³starting² specs, and since those specs are always used in the code, scaling
 is as
 distortion-free as possible:
 
 on scrollbarDrag pValue
scaleGroup long id of grp ³my great group²,pValue
 end scrollbarDrag
 
 on scaleGroup pGroup,pValue
initObjSpecs pGroup
put pValue/100 into tPercent
put loc of pGroup into masterLoc
lock screen
set width of pGroup to the uDefaultWidth of pGroup * tPercent
set height of pGroup to the uDefaultHeight of pGroup * tPercent
set loc of pGroup to masterLoc
repeat with N = 1 to number of controls of pGroup
   put long id of control N of pGroup into tObj
   set width of tObj to (item 1 of the uOrigDimensions of tObj *
 tPercent)
   set height of tObj to (item 2 of the uOrigDimensions of tObj *
 tPercent)
   put item 1 of masterLoc - (item 1 of the uOrigOffset of tObj *
 tPercent) into X
   put item 2 of masterLoc - (item 2 of the uOrigOffset of tObj *
 tPercent) into Y
   set loc of tObj to X,Y
end repeat
set loc of pGroup to masterLoc
unlock screen
 end scaleGroup
 
 on initObjSpecs pGroup
put loc of pGroup into masterLoc
if the uDefaultWidth of pGroup =  then set the uDefaultWidth of pGroup
 to width of pGroup
if the uDefaultHeight of pGroup =  then set the uDefaultHeight of
 pGroup to height of pGroup
put the number of controls of pGroup into objCount
repeat with N = 1 to objCount
   put long id of control N of pGroup into tObj
   if the uOrigOffset of tObj   and the uOrigDimensions of tObj  
 then next repeat
   put loc of tObj into objLoc
   set the uOrigOffset of tObj to item 1 of masterLoc - item 1 of
 objLoc,item 2 of masterLoc - item 2 of objLoc
   set the uOrigDimensions of tObj to width of tObj,height of tObj
end repeat
 end initObjSpecs
 
 
 Maybe other folks will find this useful.
 
 Regards,
 
 Scott Rossi
 Creative Director
 Tactile Media, Multimedia  Design
 
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