Re: socket error 54?

2010-02-17 Thread Bernard Devlin
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 12:08 AM, Richard Gaskin
ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote:
 It does not appear to be the exact same point in the file; IIRC it varies by
 a couple MBs.  I've tried it with Interarchy and a custom Rev-based FTP
 client, with the same results:

 At home, using cable: Bluehost succeeds, and Dreamhost succeeds
 At the office, w/DSL: Bluehost fails, while Dreamhost succeeds

 BH Tech Support tells me that they have no imposed limit on their end, but
 given that I have no problem with DH I'm inclined to think there's something
 funky with BH (well, something *else* funky, in addition to a long-standing
 issue with server log configuration, but that's a whole other story).

Have you tried it with a 25mb file that is gzipped?  Or how about one
that is just 25mb of say 1 char?  I'm suggesting this in case there is
some funky combo in your file that is causing the server to hiccup.
If a binary file like gzip or an ascii file of letter A cannot get
through, then it does point to their server/firewall/router config.
Alas, something of which you have no control.

Here's another suggestion.  Why not use something like curl or wget to
transfer the same file using one of the 'continue' options?  Curl has
a 'continue' option that works with PUT, so I'm guessing you can use
that to continue an upload that did not work.  I've used this kind of
feature with large downloads in case they fail half-way.

Curl works very well with open process in Rev, so you could use that
behind the scenes in your app, provided of course there is not some
other funky reason why you need to use Rev's socket-level features.

I guess if you are talking to a FTP server using your own app, you
might be able to build in your own 'continue' feature.  There must be
a command that curl sends to the server to find out the byte to
continue the file from, and a command that tells the server to append
the data to the existing file rather than overwrite it.

Hope that helps.

Bernard
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[OT] Icon generator for Windows

2010-02-17 Thread Richmond Mathewson

I wonder if anybody knows of a FREE icon generator
for Windows (whether it is an application for Mac,
Linux or Windows is not important) that can turn a
PNG or a GIF into the full compliment of Windows
icnons?

sincerely, Richmond Mathewson.
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Re: [OT] Icon generator for Windows

2010-02-17 Thread Mark Schonewille

Hi Richmond,

I use IcoFX.

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Op 17 feb 2010, om 09:53 heeft Richmond Mathewson het volgende  
geschreven:



I wonder if anybody knows of a FREE icon generator
for Windows (whether it is an application for Mac,
Linux or Windows is not important) that can turn a
PNG or a GIF into the full compliment of Windows
icnons?

sincerely, Richmond Mathewson.



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Re: A kind of cooking utensil

2010-02-17 Thread Richmond Mathewson

On 16/02/2010 23:06, François Chaplais wrote:

I have attended a few académies in my twenties. These where places where, for 
a small price, you could make more or less elaborate drawings of a live (and naked, and, 
mostly, female) model. There was a small heating engine close to the model to help her 
staying still long enough for the public to do the drawing.

Unfortunately, the course of my studies (not to mention marriage) took me away 
from these artistic activities.

   
 While the word 'academy' may sound very posh (it, after all, is of 
Greek origin), in Scotland it

has been used both for Elementary schools:

http://www.ancestralorkney.com/famousadventurer.html

and High Schools:

http://www.harris-academy.com/

although I have, sadly, missed out on academies filled with pulchritudinous
ladies desporting themselves in their birthday suits.

What interests me, François, is what you mean by mostly, female - I 
suppose the

semantics are all dependent on how one sees the comma . . .  :)

Presumably, the mooted 'revAcademy' should be seen as having a Grave 
accent on the E

rather than ' a cute' accent as per naked young ladies.

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The problem, and it is a serious problem, is that most computer manuals 
and online
teaching resources are no compensation for the presence of a real, live 
teacher

present with you.

Another problem has to do with perceptions of what will be conceptually 
difficult
for students, as different sorts of people at different stages in their 
lives with different
educational backgrounds will find different hurdles to overcome when 
they first
approach RunRev. It is impossible that any sort of 'academy' can be 
everything for
all men (read 'men' as 'humankind'); so, of necessity, it will have to 
go for a

one size fits all approach which may, ultimately, fit no one at all.

For the sake of argument:

At New Year, my father wanted to make a Venn diagram with 
semi-transparent overlapping
circles for part of his degree he is doing. I introduced him to 
Microsoft Expression 3 - thinking
that he would be up and running in a matter of 10-15 minutes. What I 
had forgotten was that
my father, while being an extremely competent Chemistry teacher and 
violin and viola player,
had almost no knowledge of what we might like to term the common 
interface elements of
a graphics program. As a result I had to completely re-examine my 
presuppositions about what
one has to put into a set of lesson plans for teaching any sort of 
computer program that has a
GUI. While the whole process may have been extremely educational for me, 
I think that my

father may have revised his opinion of my teaching abilities - downwards!!!
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Re: [OT] Icon generator for Windows

2010-02-17 Thread Richmond Mathewson

On 17/02/2010 10:54, Mark Schonewille wrote:

Hi Richmond,

I use IcoFX.



Thank you very much indeed.

sincerely, Richmond Mathewson.
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when saving as standalone get a text file; Help!

2010-02-17 Thread Andre.Bisseret

Bonjour,

To day when saving an app. as standalone I get:

for Linux standalone: a file whose type is Text format instead of  
Linux executable file

and
for Mac standalone: a file whose type is Application but does not  
launched when I double-click it (I can't try the Linux one)


Two years ago all was working well!


What am I doing wrong?

Thanks a lot in advance for your help!

Best regards from Grenoble

André

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Re: when saving as standalone get a text file; Help!

2010-02-17 Thread Sarah Reichelt
 To day when saving an app. as standalone I get:

 for Linux standalone: a file whose type is Text format instead of Linux
 executable file
 and
 for Mac standalone: a file whose type is Application but does not launched
 when I double-click it (I can't try the Linux one)


What platform are you building on, Andre?
And if you make a Windows app, does that work?


Cheers,
Sarah
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Re: when saving as standalone get a text file; Help!

2010-02-17 Thread Edward D Lavieri Jr
I did not want to say anything until I had time to conduct further  
testing, but recently ran into a problem similar to the one Andre  
reported.


This started after a firmware update on my Mac Pro (running Leopard) a  
few days ago


When I compile applications with revEnterprise, the Windows version  
works fine but the Mac Universal version will not run. This is true  
for applications I complied and successfully ran prior to the firmware  
update. If I open the rev file and recompile with revStudio, I do not  
have the problem.


When I say that the Mac Universal version will not run, the OS brings  
up a popup saying the application quit unexpectedly. So, I think there  
must be a tie to revEnterprise and the firmware update. My  
revEnterprise is up-to-date. I wonder if I should install Snow  
Leopard. I have had it for a while, just have not gotten around to  
install it on my Mac Pro yet. Do you think that might solve the problem?


Thanks,
Ed


On Feb 17, 2010, at 6:54 AM, Sarah Reichelt wrote:


To day when saving an app. as standalone I get:

for Linux standalone: a file whose type is Text format instead of  
Linux

executable file
and
for Mac standalone: a file whose type is Application but does not  
launched

when I double-click it (I can't try the Linux one)



What platform are you building on, Andre?
And if you make a Windows app, does that work?


Cheers,
Sarah
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Re: when saving as standalone get a text file; Help!

2010-02-17 Thread Sarah Reichelt
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 11:04 PM, Edward D Lavieri Jr ed...@mac.com wrote:
 I did not want to say anything until I had time to conduct further testing,
 but recently ran into a problem similar to the one Andre reported.

 This started after a firmware update on my Mac Pro (running Leopard) a few
 days ago

 When I compile applications with revEnterprise, the Windows version works
 fine but the Mac Universal version will not run. This is true for
 applications I complied and successfully ran prior to the firmware update.
 If I open the rev file and recompile with revStudio, I do not have the
 problem.

 When I say that the Mac Universal version will not run, the OS brings up a
 popup saying the application quit unexpectedly. So, I think there must be a
 tie to revEnterprise and the firmware update. My revEnterprise is
 up-to-date. I wonder if I should install Snow Leopard. I have had it for a
 while, just have not gotten around to install it on my Mac Pro yet. Do you
 think that might solve the problem?


If you are using Enterprise 4.5.0-dp-1, then there is a known issue
with standalones. There was a thread on the improve list with a
download link to get the fixed engines.

Cheers,
Sarah
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Re: when saving as standalone get a text file; Help!

2010-02-17 Thread Edward D Lavieri Jr

Thanks, Sarah.

This is reassuring.

Ed


On Feb 17, 2010, at 7:14 AM, Sarah Reichelt wrote:

On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 11:04 PM, Edward D Lavieri Jr  
ed...@mac.com wrote:
I did not want to say anything until I had time to conduct further  
testing,

but recently ran into a problem similar to the one Andre reported.

This started after a firmware update on my Mac Pro (running  
Leopard) a few

days ago

When I compile applications with revEnterprise, the Windows version  
works

fine but the Mac Universal version will not run. This is true for
applications I complied and successfully ran prior to the firmware  
update.
If I open the rev file and recompile with revStudio, I do not have  
the

problem.

When I say that the Mac Universal version will not run, the OS  
brings up a
popup saying the application quit unexpectedly. So, I think there  
must be a

tie to revEnterprise and the firmware update. My revEnterprise is
up-to-date. I wonder if I should install Snow Leopard. I have had  
it for a
while, just have not gotten around to install it on my Mac Pro yet.  
Do you

think that might solve the problem?



If you are using Enterprise 4.5.0-dp-1, then there is a known issue
with standalones. There was a thread on the improve list with a
download link to get the fixed engines.

Cheers,
Sarah
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Re: when saving as standalone get a text file; Help!

2010-02-17 Thread Andre.Bisseret


Le 17 févr. 10 à 13:54, Sarah Reichelt a écrit :


To day when saving an app. as standalone I get:

for Linux standalone: a file whose type is Text format instead of  
Linux

executable file
and
for Mac standalone: a file whose type is Application but does not  
launched

when I double-click it (I can't try the Linux one)



What platform are you building on, Andre?
And if you make a Windows app, does that work?


I am building on Mac OSX 10.5.8 with Rev 4.0

I just made another trial, this time for Linux, Mac universal and Mac  
Intel only and one Windows


The Linux standalone I obtain keeps being a text file!

The Windows standalone gets normally a .exe suffix and its type is  
Microsoft Windows application but its icon is a simple white one  
which seems suspect to me(?)
Habitually I got a black rectangular icon, for Linux and Windows as  
well.


Any way I have no opportunity to try either Linux or Windows.

As for Mac, I obtained 2 standalones (type = Application), but they  
are not working: nothing happens when I double-click them (or more  
precisely a small translucent image appears and vanishes immediately.


Any idea ?

Thank you Sarah for you attention to my problem

Best regards from Grenoble

André

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Re: survey

2010-02-17 Thread Mikey
Alex,

With all due respect, even HP doesn't use DEC systems any more.

On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 17:30, Alex Tweedly a...@tweedly.net wrote:

 Mike Kerner wrote:

 Just a note - because I can google it if i really care, but what the hell
 -
 oh sorry - what the bloody hell is a fortnight?



 As other have said, two weeks.

  Sorry, over here in the colonies we don't use such hooey.



 Sure you do.

 VMS (i.e. DEC systems, based in Mass) were well known for the joke of
 having timings defined in microfortnights (pretty close to one second).


 -- Alex.

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RE: Newsfeeder - an RSS reader

2010-02-17 Thread Jim Bufalini
Jeff Massung wrote:

 Again, for those of you who use RSS regularly, I'd be interested in
 knowing
 what features are important to you... and better still, what is lacking
 from
 the current reader you use.
 
 Thanks for the compliments, everyone.

I am also not a heavy RSS user and the reason is I don't want to be
inundated or have to scan through tons of information that I am not
interested in. To the best of my knowledge, when you subscribe to an RSS
feed, you receive any changes to that site, or portion of site. If the site
is an active forum, for example, this can be TMI (Too Much Information).

So, while you say:

 Yes. That's the idea. For example, if you were had a lot of news feeds,
 and typed iran into filter area, the only headlines that would appear
 would be those that had Iran somewhere in the title or body of the
headline.

What I would really like is to be able to have a preference that is
*specific to each feed* I subscribe to, and be able to type in some filter
words or phrases. If the word or phrase is in the headline or body of that
feed, then notify or otherwise show me the headline. Otherwise,
automatically and  completely delete the headline item from the database
or however you are storing these (I also don't need my HD being filled up
with info I will never read).

And, I don't want to have to be manually typing in filter words multiple
times a day.

This would remove my resistance to subscribing to feeds, knowing I can
always filter a feed down right at the door to what I know I would be
interested in from that feed and not have yet another flood of information
to deal with. It would not bother me in the least to not see anything from a
specific feed for days or weeks or more.

Aloha from Hawaii,

Jim Bufalini

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Re: survey

2010-02-17 Thread Klaus Major
Mikey,

with all due respect, but Alex wrote ... WERE well known...
which means this has been the case at some arbitrary point in the past :-)

m 17.02.2010 um 15:14 schrieb Mikey:
 Alex,
 With all due respect, even HP doesn't use DEC systems any more.
 ...
 VMS (i.e. DEC systems, based in Mass) were well known for the joke of
 having timings defined in microfortnights (pretty close to one second).
 
 -- Alex.

Best

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Re: [SQL Yoga] Trying to get started.

2010-02-17 Thread Trevor DeVore

On Feb 16, 2010, at 3:58 PM, Andrew Kluthe wrote:


Anything without a t is a view. This is a mySQL db.

This is definately not all of my tables.

no tables past tinventory get loaded.


Confirmed with a test SQLite database. Report file:

http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=8620

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Re: when saving as standalone get a text file; Help!

2010-02-17 Thread Richard Gaskin

Sarah Reichelt wrote:


If you are using Enterprise 4.5.0-dp-1, then there is a known issue
with standalones. There was a thread on the improve list with a
download link to get the fixed engines.


FWIW, this issue seems specific to the IDE.  In my own IDE, using the 
v4.5 dev engine's _internal command to build my standalones from the 
v4.5 runtime engines produces a runnable app.


The good news there is that the actual mechanism that builds the 
standalones seems fine, and the engines themselves are fine, it's just 
something in the IDE which is likely easy to fix.


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Re: survey

2010-02-17 Thread Mikey
Oh, here we go!  Nice catch Klaus.  I did also say don't though in my
original post, if we're gonna start tweaking each other over my original
tweak.

Have a great day, guys.

BTW, is fortnight still used in jolly old Mother England?

On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 09:25, Klaus Major kl...@major.on-rev.com wrote:

 Mikey,

 with all due respect, but Alex wrote ... WERE well known...
 which means this has been the case at some arbitrary point in the past :-)

 m 17.02.2010 um 15:14 schrieb Mikey:
  Alex,
  With all due respect, even HP doesn't use DEC systems any more.
  ...
  VMS (i.e. DEC systems, based in Mass) were well known for the joke of
  having timings defined in microfortnights (pretty close to one second).
 
  -- Alex.

 Best

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Re: [SQL Yoga] Trying to get started.

2010-02-17 Thread Trevor DeVore

On Feb 16, 2010, at 4:06 PM, Andrew Kluthe wrote:


I cut all of the views out of my DB and got tlease to show up. Now I'm
getting this error.

line: 1438 of libSQLYoga
Application error:

66,677,9
66,677,9
83,677,9
83,677,9,Handler: running low on memory, script aborted.
465,677,1


Is this error appearing when running the same code you posted  
originally or some other code?


Since we are troubleshooting a 3rd party library perhaps it is best if  
you email supp...@bluemangolearning.com so we can take this off the  
list.


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Re: stack menu

2010-02-17 Thread Richard Gaskin

Peter Brigham MD wrote:


On Feb 16, 2010, at 6:37 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:


In my experience stack menus work perfectly UNLESS the height of the
stack being poppsed up is greater than the monitor height.

AFAIK Rev truncates stack rendering to the largest possible size,
which will be within the monitor bounds.  But of course some popup
stacks may exceed that, so while that limit doesn't affect most
things it becomes an error with popup stacks.

If your stack that's popping up properly is taller than your monitor
it would be good to know, so I can update the notes in my bug report.


Ah. I'll try to get some time tomorrow to try it with stackheight 
screenheight. I'll let you know.

Do you know *when* Rev does the truncation?


Apparently not as I had suggested.  I just made a stack and set its 
width to , and it made a stack of that size without a problem while 
my display is only 1680 px wide.


I think the true limit of most stacks is about 32k px.

The issue with using them as popups, however, does seem to limit them to 
the screen height - reverified in both v4.0 and v4.5.


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Re: Newsfeeder - an RSS reader

2010-02-17 Thread Jeffrey Massung

On Feb 17, 2010, at 8:23 AM, Jim Bufalini wrote:

 Jeff Massung wrote:
 
 Again, for those of you who use RSS regularly, I'd be interested in
 knowing
 what features are important to you... and better still, what is lacking
 from
 the current reader you use.
 
 Thanks for the compliments, everyone.
 
 I am also not a heavy RSS user and the reason is I don't want to be
 inundated or have to scan through tons of information that I am not
 interested in. To the best of my knowledge, when you subscribe to an RSS
 feed, you receive any changes to that site, or portion of site. If the site
 is an active forum, for example, this can be TMI (Too Much Information).
 
 So, while you say:
 
 Yes. That's the idea. For example, if you were had a lot of news feeds,
 and typed iran into filter area, the only headlines that would appear
 would be those that had Iran somewhere in the title or body of the
 headline.
 
 What I would really like is to be able to have a preference that is
 *specific to each feed* I subscribe to, and be able to type in some filter
 words or phrases. If the word or phrase is in the headline or body of that
 feed, then notify or otherwise show me the headline. Otherwise,
 automatically and  completely delete the headline item from the database
 or however you are storing these (I also don't need my HD being filled up
 with info I will never read).

Jim,

That's an interesting idea. I'll have to think about how best to incorporate 
such a feature into the user interface. I can definitely see how a filter / 
feed could be very useful.

Addressing your HD being filled up issue, know that I'm against such things 
as well. I had no desire for Newsfeeder to be a newsgroup reader that 
downloaded and saved every headline and marked them as read or not. Newsfeeder 
will tell you if an RSS feed has new headlines since the last time you viewed 
it, you will be informed, but it doesn't track anything on a per-headline basis 
and doesn't save anything to the HD. Each time you start up the app, everything 
is fresh.

Note: I have considered adding support for saving headlines that you love or 
want to read later so they don't go away, and similarly considered letting you 
delete headlines that you never want to see again. But I need to get more use 
out of the app - and more user opinions - before I go down that road.

Thank you for your thoughts.

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Re: ANN: Newsfeeder - an RSS reader

2010-02-17 Thread Jeffrey Massung

On Feb 16, 2010, at 11:36 PM, Kay C Lan wrote:

 On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 6:09 AM, Sarah Reichelt
 sarah.reich...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Looks very neat Jeff. My only suggestion would be to allow people to
 set the font and font size.
 
 
 Jeff, I'm not a big RSS users so take my suggestion with a grain of
 salt, but I notice all bar one Title is truncated and for the
 TEDTalks, three truncate the presenters name and the fourth is
 completely missing. I like TEDTalks and the presenters name could be a
 deciding factor in my decision to follow the link (I realise it does
 appear in the text, but skimming headlines is what RSS is all about).

Kay,

Thanks for the feedback!

Please know that I've tried *many* different ways of presenting the headlines, 
and this one seems to provide the best information given the space I want to 
allot to each.

However, RSS feeds - even though it's an optional xml tag - usually support the 
author tag. Perhaps an option to turn that on and have the author's name 
appear directly below the title as a subtext (similar to the post date) might 
fit that need? I love TED talks as well, but I can also see someone wanting to 
follow a specific blogger, editor, or reporter that they like on CNN, etc. Not 
a bad idea.

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Re: socket error 54?

2010-02-17 Thread Richard Gaskin

Bernard Devlin wrote:


On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 12:08 AM, Richard Gaskin
ambassador at fourthworld.com wrote:

It does not appear to be the exact same point in the file; IIRC it varies by
a couple MBs.  I've tried it with Interarchy and a custom Rev-based FTP
client, with the same results:

At home, using cable: Bluehost succeeds, and Dreamhost succeeds
At the office, w/DSL: Bluehost fails, while Dreamhost succeeds

BH Tech Support tells me that they have no imposed limit on their end, but
given that I have no problem with DH I'm inclined to think there's something
funky with BH (well, something *else* funky, in addition to a long-standing
issue with server log configuration, but that's a whole other story).


Have you tried it with a 25mb file that is gzipped?  Or how about one
that is just 25mb of say 1 char?  I'm suggesting this in case there is
some funky combo in your file that is causing the server to hiccup.
If a binary file like gzip or an ascii file of letter A cannot get
through, then it does point to their server/firewall/router config.
Alas, something of which you have no control.


I'm using a Zip file.  Haven't tried gzip, but I suppose I could if it 
would make a difference.


BH Support suggested I try toggling from passive to active, but their 
server won't accept active connections so that won't work.


It may be easier to just use my Dreamhost account for this, where it 
works great all the time with files of any size and type.



Here's another suggestion.  Why not use something like curl or wget to
transfer the same file using one of the 'continue' options?  Curl has
a 'continue' option that works with PUT, so I'm guessing you can use
that to continue an upload that did not work.  I've used this kind of
feature with large downloads in case they fail half-way.


I'll look into that - thanks.

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Re: when saving as standalone get a text file; Help!

2010-02-17 Thread Andre.Bisseret
I just updated to rev 4.5 dp2 and tried to save my app as standalone :  
I get the same as with rev 4.0 : for Linux a text file!! and the  
standalone for Mac not working.


I can't access to the thread on the improve list (I dont remember my  
password and am waiting for a new one!!!)


I am a bit tired to see the message : Standalone application saved  
successfully!!


A couple of days ago, on Rev 4.0, I saved my app. as standalone  
without any problem


Any help would be much appreciated

Best regards from Grenoble

André

Le 17 févr. 10 à 15:29, Richard Gaskin a écrit :


Sarah Reichelt wrote:


If you are using Enterprise 4.5.0-dp-1, then there is a known issue
with standalones. There was a thread on the improve list with a
download link to get the fixed engines.


FWIW, this issue seems specific to the IDE.  In my own IDE, using  
the v4.5 dev engine's _internal command to build my standalones from  
the v4.5 runtime engines produces a runnable app.


The good news there is that the actual mechanism that builds the  
standalones seems fine, and the engines themselves are fine, it's  
just something in the IDE which is likely easy to fix.


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Re: stack menu

2010-02-17 Thread Peter Brigham MD

On Feb 17, 2010, at 1:05 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote:


Peter Brigham MD wrote:

Do you know *when* Rev does the truncation? I've had a problem with  
certain printing stacks -- loaded up invisible or offscreen with  
formatted text fields then printed with print card from x1,y1 to  
x2,y2 into pRect. I would show them to debug  tweak the text  
formatting, and then I ran into the problem that the stack height  
was clipped at the lower edge of the screen. I took to resizing  
them every time just before printing,


A little off your topic, but if you set the stack's  
formatForPrinting property Rev won't clip the stack off.


Good to know this, thanks. I thought formatForPrinting only affected  
font display, but the last paragraph of the dictionary entry says If  
the stack's formatForPrinting property is true, the setting of the  
windowBoundingRect property is ignored when the stack is opened or  
maximized. I then wondered if I could set the windowBoundingRect to a  
larger size before opening the menustack, but alas, The value of the  
windowBoundingRect does not affect palette, modal, or modeless  
windows. Only stacks whose mode property is 1 or 2 are affected. Dead  
end, after all.


PROGRAM, tr.v. To engage in a pastime similar to banging one's head
against a wall, but with fewer opportunities for reward.  ;-)

(Actually, Rev does offer rewards enough of the time to keep me  
banging away)


head only mildly sore,
-- Peter

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Xcopy without mounting a network-path

2010-02-17 Thread Inselfan

Hola, 

everybody knows how to handel xcopy, for example:
xcopy D:\*.* Y:\*.* 

but, how to do this without mounting a network-path:
xcopy //myPC/D:\*.* ???

The question behind is that I want to use this with a shell command

hoping for some help

kind regards

Horst
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RE: stack menu

2010-02-17 Thread Jim Bufalini
Peter Brigham MD wrote:

 head only mildly sore,

Good thing you are a doctor and can heal thyself. ;-)

Aloha from Hawaii,

Jim Bufalini

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Italic text

2010-02-17 Thread Andrew Kluthe

In some of my stacks, the font mysteriously changed to italic on all of them.
It was about the same time I changed some of the stack's appearance
properties (Took maximize button away from some and the minimize away from
others).

Haven't figured out why this happened or how to fix it yet. :P probably
something silly.


Anyone have this happen?
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Re: Italic text

2010-02-17 Thread Andrew Kluthe

nvm. lol
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Re: socket error 54?

2010-02-17 Thread Alex Tweedly

Richard Gaskin wrote:

Bernard Devlin wrote:


It may be easier to just use my Dreamhost account for this, where it 
works great all the time with files of any size and type.


Or create a CGI on Dreamhost that will relay a file on to another site 
such as BH.


-- Alex.

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Re: survey

2010-02-17 Thread Alex Tweedly

Mikey wrote:

Oh, here we go!  Nice catch Klaus.  I did also say don't though in my
original post, if we're gonna start tweaking each other over my original
tweak.

Have a great day, guys.

  
It was (IMHO) a fair tweak - I *should* have said Sure you did, fairly 
recently. rather than Sure you do.



BTW, is fortnight still used in jolly old Mother England?

  

Yes, still in common usage there, and also here in Scotland.

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Re: socket error 54?

2010-02-17 Thread Alex Tweedly

Jim Bufalini wrote:

Alex Tweedly wrote:

  

What is error 54?
  

Error 54, sometimes known as 10054 or sometimes as 20054 is a hard one
to deal with. It means: Connection reset. (i.e. by the other guy) -



When I first saw the post by Richard, I wondered, because I have seen and
trap for errors like 10053 (connection to server dropped) and 10061 (no
server available on this port), etc. in my *ON socketError pSocket, pError*
handler. But, I had not seen an error of just 53 or 54 or... (or at least I
didn't think I had). 


Alex, Any way of knowing if an error is going to be reported as 10054, 20054
or just 54? What generates this socket error number? Rev? The platform? The
server? It makes a difference to my switch statement. ;-)

  
Don't know for sure, but I believeWin consistently reports socket error 
numbers as 100xx, while I think (maybe) Mac reports them as simply xx

Linux - no idea.

Maybe parse out and switch on the last two digits of the error number ??

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Re: survey

2010-02-17 Thread Kay C Lan
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 10:31 PM, Mikey mikeyt...@gmail.com wrote:

 BTW, is fortnight still used in jolly old Mother England?

Yes, on a weekly basis ;-)
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FYI: writing to and reading from fields much faster than locals, globals or custom properties

2010-02-17 Thread Josh Mellicker
You all probably know this, but thought I would share our experience anyway:

We are working on a project with a 1 millisecond callback loop that 
communicates with an external process in a performance-critical application, 
and when prototyping, temporarily used some fields on a card to write and read 
values from during the loop.

Then, while buttoning things up, instead of fields, we switched to reading and 
writing a custom property.

Suddenly, everything went sluggish - you had to click on a button several times 
to trigger it, you could barely move stack windows, etc.

It took a while to figure out the culprit, but once we went line by line from 
our original prototype script, wee found that going back to reading and writing 
to a field made everything work smoothly again!

Then we tried local, then a global variable... not good... same result as 
custom properties.

So if you are writing an app where performance is critical, Rev reads and 
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Re: FYI: writing to and reading from fields much faster than locals, globals or custom properties

2010-02-17 Thread stephen barncard
That is counter to what we've been taught was the case previously. In
previous versions the field overhead was far greater than CPs. Perhaps it's
the multi-dimensional aspect.
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On 17 February 2010 20:10, Josh Mellicker j...@dvcreators.net wrote:

 You all probably know this, but thought I would share our experience
 anyway:

 We are working on a project with a 1 millisecond callback loop that
 communicates with an external process in a performance-critical application,
 and when prototyping, temporarily used some fields on a card to write and
 read values from during the loop.

 Then, while buttoning things up, instead of fields, we switched to reading
 and writing a custom property.

 Suddenly, everything went sluggish - you had to click on a button several
 times to trigger it, you could barely move stack windows, etc.

 It took a while to figure out the culprit, but once we went line by line
 from our original prototype script, wee found that going back to reading and
 writing to a field made everything work smoothly again!

 Then we tried local, then a global variable... not good... same result as
 custom properties.

 So if you are writing an app where performance is critical, Rev reads and
 writes to fields super fast!___
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Re: FYI: writing to and reading from fields much faster than locals, globals or custom properties

2010-02-17 Thread Jan Schenkel
--- On Wed, 2/17/10, Josh Mellicker j...@dvcreators.net wrote:
 You all probably know this, but
 thought I would share our experience anyway:
 
 We are working on a project with a 1 millisecond callback
 loop that communicates with an external process in a
 performance-critical application, and when prototyping,
 temporarily used some fields on a card to write and read
 values from during the loop.
 
 Then, while buttoning things up, instead of fields, we
 switched to reading and writing a custom property.
 
 Suddenly, everything went sluggish - you had to click on a
 button several times to trigger it, you could barely move
 stack windows, etc.
 
 It took a while to figure out the culprit, but once we went
 line by line from our original prototype script, wee found
 that going back to reading and writing to a field made
 everything work smoothly again!
 
 Then we tried local, then a global variable... not good...
 same result as custom properties.
 
 So if you are writing an app where performance is critical,
 Rev reads and writes to fields super
 fast!

If the field you're using to set/get data, is _invisible_ then it makes sense 
that this would be faster than set/get data using a custom property: built-in 
properties don't have to traverse the message hierarchy for setProp/getProp 
handlers, and an invisible field doesn't have to redraw itself.
Why it would be faster than global/local variable access, is a puzzler - are 
you using arrays or storing the text in the same 'flat' way as field text?

Jan Schenkel
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Re: survey

2010-02-17 Thread Richmond Mathewson

On 18/02/2010 02:33, Alex Tweedly wrote:

Mikey wrote:

Oh, here we go!  Nice catch Klaus.  I did also say don't though in my
original post, if we're gonna start tweaking each other over my original
tweak.

Have a great day, guys.

It was (IMHO) a fair tweak - I *should* have said Sure you did, 
fairly recently. rather than Sure you do.



BTW, is fortnight still used in jolly old Mother England?


Yes, still in common usage there, and also here in Scotland.


And in France a fortnight is a quinzaine; I suppose the difference
between 14 and 15 is about the same as La Manche - divides them . . .  :)
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Re: FYI: writing to and reading from fields much faster than locals, globals or custom properties

2010-02-17 Thread Jim Ault




On Feb 17, 2010, at 8:10 PM, Josh Mellicker wrote:

You all probably know this, but thought I would share our experience  
anyway:


We are working on a project with a 1 millisecond callback loop that  
communicates with an external process in a performance-critical  
application, and when prototyping, temporarily used some fields on a  
card to write and read values from during the loop.


Then, while buttoning things up, instead of fields, we switched to  
reading and writing a custom property.


Suddenly, everything went sluggish - you had to click on a button  
several times to trigger it, you could barely move stack windows, etc.


It took a while to figure out the culprit, but once we went line by  
line from our original prototype script, wee found that going back  
to reading and writing to a field made everything work smoothly again!


Then we tried local, then a global variable... not good... same  
result as custom properties.


So if you are writing an app where performance is critical, Rev  
reads and writes to fields super fast! 
___



Something does not seem to be correct in this instance.

Which version of Rev?  Which platform?
Is the flag script debug mode set to false?
Are there any pending messages in the queue?
Front scripts? back scripts?

I have done many performance-critical event loops using variables and  
custom properties in networking apps between computers and offices.   
Whenever I encounter a slow down, I look at my error trapping loops or  
status detection code and find that I have added clock cycles by not  
programming properly.


If you have discovered something that affects the performance so that  
fields are noticeably faster, then we need to know what is happening.   
I have never tested fields to be as fast or faster than custom  
properties, especially for larger blocks of text (such as whole web  
page HTML)


Please, when you have time, provide a little more feedback.

Jim Ault
Las Vegas



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