date:20100514


Hi Paul,

I have seen similar issues on very old Mac systems (Classic) and once  
in a while on Windows. What have you done to get the pointer tool back  
again? Have you restarted the computer again? Ran a Windows repair  
session (I think you'll need your Windows license key for that)? Re- 
installed RR? Which version of RR do you have?


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On 14 mei 2010, at 11:19, Paul Williams wrote:


This is driving me crazy.

XP crashed in the middle of an editing session in enterprise and  
when the
pc recovered the pointer tool when selected from the tools pallette  
is now a
blacksquare with a white cross in the middle instead of the standard  
default

arrow.

How can I restore the default arrow/cursor on the pointer tool?

Thanks

Paul


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Resize stack ...

2010-05-14 Thread Jean-Pierre Soto


Hello,

is there a way for user to resize stack when the decoration of this  
stack is set to empty.


Jean-Pierre


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Runtime Revolution?

2010-05-14 Thread Robert Marquardt

Hello everyone,

I talked with Christian Schmitz of monkeybreadsoftware.de today. He developed 
many well-know plugins for Realbasic and FileMaker. 

If someone needs a custom plugin here:

http://www.mbsplugins.de/archive/2010-05-14/Runtime_Revolution

is your chance to bring Christian to Runtime Revolution.

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Re: Thoughts on Kevin's announcement

Jacqueline, let me take a precise example.. i'took a license for sygodact.
It's an "old" CGI stack. So I had to install an "old" runrev engine in the
CGI folder. It would be simpler if the new on-rev engine accepted stacks
like the old one :

- It would make it easier for you to promote Zygodact. It would allow
revIgniter to sell his what seems (not yet digged into it enough) great
framework. And Andre Garzia to promote a nice tutorial about the basic of
CMS. And thus creating a kind of market because others might like/want to
produce nice tools... that would in the end make it easier for the whole lot
to produce more things. I do beleive that sharing things here and there and
"selling" libraries at a reasonnable "friendly" price is a great benefit for
all of us potentially.

- Lastly, if I go and see a potential client, and promote the on-rev server
technology offering to build their site. I'd rather leave on their server my
work as a protected stack rather than a bunch of .irev files, with which I'm
happy on my personnal on-rev sand box server.

Until then on-rev will only be useful for developpers themselves or their
hosted clients sites. It smells a little bit "closed shop". I personnaly
would hesitate as a client to be locked in 100%.

Unless you present it no more as site building and hosting but as a
"communication on the web service" like Rodéo.. !

But I beleive that there is a nice intermediate niche of CMS sites to be
really adapted to users but more efficiently with on-rev xtalk. And for that
having irev-cgi stacks running on on-rev servers would be, for me, the
starter sign!

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Re: Resize stack ...


Hi Jean-Pierre,

Create a button with the following script:

on mouseDown
 put item 1 of the loc of me - the mouseH into myDif1
 put item 2 of the loc of me - the mouseV into myDif2
 repeat until the mouse is up
  set the loc of me to the mouseH + myDif1,the mouseV + myDif2
  put the topleft of this stack & comma & item 1 of the  
topleft of this stack \
 + item 1 of the bottomright of me & comma & item 2  
of the topleft \
 of this stack + item 2 of the bottomright of me into  
myNewRect

  set the rect of this stack to myNewRect
 end repeat
end mouseDown

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On 14 mei 2010, at 12:25, Jean-Pierre Soto wrote:


Hello,

is there a way for user to resize stack when the decoration of this  
stack is set to empty.


Jean-Pierre


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Re: Runtime Revolution?


For info I just left this message on his site.. 
i'm pretty sure we would be quite a few people intresting in such a library


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Hi I got your contact through Robert Marquardt on the revolution nabble
list.

It seems that you could be interested in building some libraries for
runrev?!

I just wanted to let you know of a runrev "hole" that would call for an
external library to deal with basic audio functions.
-- runrev uses quicktimes, and just allow to play and record, full stop.
-- a quicktime external "enhanced" library does add a quite a lot of
functions. But it is mostly targeted at video. Example : the transition
filter does not seem to deal with the audio channels.. so no audio fade in
an out. Up to now it is the great and only existing sound library for
runrev, thanks to Trevor de Vore.

Sound quality is something important to users, even unconsciously it brings
a sense of quality. Se we miss just a few basic sound functions like : 

A to enhance quality of recorded wave files :
- fade in / fade out
- cross mix fade in and out
- normalization
- a simple basic reverb/echo combined for voice/music with basic setting

==> Just that would be a really nice helper that could let you test the
runrev world!

B to output mp3 (so far we have to use lame which is great, but, implies
installing that on each computer... an included plugin would be much more
simple and reduce risks of support issues)

C ?? if hunger for .. basic mix functions between deifferent sound files,
opening up a new era for runrev for music tools... 

There are a few people who have done a few great music programs already on
runrev. The challenge is that a runrev library has to be ok in Os X and
windows.. and possibly linux.. !

have a good day from France,
Robert Maniquant

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Re: Will revCGI be made available (not just revServer)?

2010-05-14 Thread David Bovill

On 14 May 2010 02:05, Richard Gaskin  wrote:

> Lyn Teyla wrote:
>
>  revServer runs as an Apache module, not as CGI.
>>
>
> I don't believe it's an Apache module.  I'm not exactly sure what it is,
> but when I asked if it was a module per se I was told it was not. That's a
> good thing, IMO, since it would be next to impossible to install it on a
> shared host if it were.
>

I'd like to know as well - personally I fear ti will be worse than that and
the revServer that you can install will be a complete integrated server that
you will need you own dedicated server for - in which case it would be
impossible to install on a shared host, and worse still pretty unlikely that
existing hosting providers could be talked into installing it (which they
might if it were an Apache module with appropriate security audit /
certification).

I don't know this to be the case - but nothing said so far publicly
indicates anything other than the equivalent of "a company could freely
install it to run their own server". Or does anyone know anything different?
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[audio] Call for an updated enhanced quicktime audio library or a small audio complementary library!

We have a runrev "hole" that would call for an external library regarding
basic audio functions :
-- runrev uses quicktimes, and just allow to play and record, full stop.
-- a quicktime external "enhanced" library does add a quite a lot of
functions. But it is mostly targeted at video. Example : the transition
filter does not seem to deal with the audio channels.. so no audio fade in
or fade out. Up to now it is the great and only existing sound library for
runrev, thanks to Trevor Devore.

It took me quite a while to come up with a solution to record sounds and
concatenate them and then output a mp3 file. The only decent solution I
found was to record wave, transcode in mp3 using lame and then re-transform
into .mov with trevor devore eQt lib, to finally import a compact internal
audio file in the form of a movie, since internally runrev does not read
mp3, and finally destroy the intermediate files... pf!!! The next person
that talls me that runrev reduces programming by an order of x10... i'll ask
to demonstrate with what should be a simple task like that!! for me it was
more like complication of x100 magnitude because I nearly found the no
solution wall, and frankly, this is not satisfactory to deploy. And there is
more now :

Sound quality is something important to users, even unconsciously it brings
a sense of quality. Se we miss just a few basic sound functions like :

A) to enhance quality of recorded wave files :
1- fade in / fade out
2- cross mix fade in and out between two or more files.
3- normalization
4- a simple basic reverb/echo combined for voice/music with basic setting

==> Just 1) and 2/ would already be great to deal with recorded material
within runrev !

B) to output mp3 (so far we have to use lame which is great, but, implies
installing that on each computer... an included plugin would be much more
simple and reduce risks of support issues)

C) ?? if hunger for .. basic mix functions between deifferent sound files,
opening up a new era for runrev for music tools...

D) some in depth tools like a library to open up a wave file extract content
and make it possible to add expand audio libraries in xTalk. There was an
revOline stack that showed how to do that already, but outlined one need
basic quicker library functions to make it operationnal.

I personnaly do not have the competence to do that, otherwise I sure would!

Some of you and some french folks in particular, have made some great audio
work already using runrev. I do believe that runrev could attract more of
that music and sound NRJ. And I personnaly would of course pay for such
libraries, if that cost can be shared (smile.. to sell it back tu runrev
afeter??!!)

Any thought welcomed...

-- possibly to confirm the need for that (Am I all alone there??! smile!)

-- help target (what do we really need as a whole) ??

-- help set up something to make it happen (hunger strike at runrev or
pre-ordering to an interesting party?)

So long from France!

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Re: Runtime Revolution?

2010-05-14 Thread Malte Pfaff-Brill

added my 2 cents:


Hi,

I think it would be wonderful to have a multichannel audio library that worked 
cross platform. Basic features like loading / unloading multiple soundfiles and 
play them back on different sound channels. If there were basic mixing and 
effect capabilities that would be awesome and I for sure would be interested 
(and quite some others too I assume) What would be crucial is, that it would 
NOT rely on Quicktime as a playback engine. And also plays (and maybe exports) 
compressed audio formats.

All the best,

Malte

CEO derbrill Multimedia
http://www.derbrill.de

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OT: [Mac OSX] Is it possible to have Dashcode 2 and Dashcode 3 on the same Machine?

Hi all,

i want to play around a little bit with QuickConnectiPhone (a javascript 
framework). But for that i need Dashcode 2 on my machine, because the templates 
of QuickConnectiPhone are only Dascode 2 compatible. 

Does anymone know, if it is possible to have Xocde SDKs installed on the same 
machine. Do i have to install it just into an other folder? Any help is 
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Re: Runtime Revolution?

2010-05-14 Thread Scott Rossi

Recently, Malte Pfaff-Brill wrote:

> I think it would be wonderful to have a multichannel audio library that worked
> cross platform. Basic features like loading / unloading multiple soundfiles
> and play them back on different sound channels. If there were basic mixing and
> effect capabilities that would be awesome and I for sure would be interested
> (and quite some others too I assume) What would be crucial is, that it would
> NOT rely on Quicktime as a playback engine. And also plays (and maybe exports)
> compressed audio formats.

Not sure where this is supposed to go, but don't forget seamless looping and
simultaneous start/stop of multiple sounds (not "start channel, start
channel 2...", etc).

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX Design


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Re: Pointer Tool

2010-05-14 Thread Paul Williams

Hi Mark
thanks for the comment, XP restarted OK, no problems with any other 
software and a virus/trojan scan shows all clear.  The rev version is 4.5.0 -
dp-3  I havent tried to re-install rev yet, is this the only option, I was 
wondering if there was a configuration within rev that I can change.  I have 
restarted XP(pro)  and run rev a number of times but the pointer tool is still 
wrong.

Paul



> Hi Paul,
> 
> I have seen similar issues on very old Mac systems (Classic) and once  
> in a while on Windows. What have you done to get the pointer tool back  
> again? Have you restarted the computer again? Ran a Windows repair  
> session (I think you'll need your Windows license key for that)? Re- 
> installed RR? Which version of RR do you have?
> 
> --
> Best regards,
> 
> Mark Schonewille
> 
> Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
> Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer
> 
> Economy-x-Talk is always looking for new projects. Contact me for a  
> quote http://economy-x-talk.com/contact.html
> 
> On 14 mei 2010, at 11:19, Paul Williams wrote:
> 
> > This is driving me crazy.
> >
> > XP crashed in the middle of an editing session in enterprise and  
> > when the
> > pc recovered the pointer tool when selected from the tools pallette  
> > is now a
> > blacksquare with a white cross in the middle instead of the standard  
> > default
> > arrow.
> >
> > How can I restore the default arrow/cursor on the pointer tool?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Paul
> 
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Re: [audio] Call for an updated enhanced quicktime audio library or a small audio complementary library!

2010-05-14 Thread Scott Rossi

Recently, Robert Mann wrote:

> Sound quality is something important to users, even unconsciously it brings
> a sense of quality. Se we miss just a few basic sound functions like :
> 
> A) to enhance quality of recorded wave files :
> 1- fade in / fade out
> 2- cross mix fade in and out between two or more files.
> 3- normalization
> 4- a simple basic reverb/echo combined for voice/music with basic setting
> 
> ==> Just 1) and 2/ would already be great to deal with recorded material
> within runrev !

You are right, in general better audio support is desperately needed.  But
if I understand what you are asking for, both 1 and 2 of the above can be
done, if you can use player objects.  To crossfade, you assign audio to each
player, and set the playLoudness of one player to the opposite of the other.
For example, using a scrollbar with start/end values of 0/100:

 on scrollbarDrag N
   set playLoudness of player 1 to N
   set playLoudness of player 2 to (100 - N)
 end scrollbarDrag

Again, this will only work with player objects, not imported WAV files.

Fade in/out is the same: simply set the playLoudness of a player to a value
from 0 to 100 using a repeat loop.

The bigger issue is synchronized start/stop of the players.

Apologies if I misunderstood what you are trying to do.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX Design

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Re: Pointer Tool


Hi Paul,

Mabye, the file that contains the point cursor has been corrupted or  
is no longer readable. A re-install of RunRev might be the easiest  
thing to do and therefore the first I'd try. If this doesn't work, I'd  
try running an older version of RunRev first, just to see what happens.


What happens if you set the defaultCursor to 1?

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On 14 mei 2010, at 14:23, Paul Williams wrote:


Hi Mark
thanks for the comment, XP restarted OK, no problems with any other
software and a virus/trojan scan shows all clear.  The rev version  
is 4.5.0 -
dp-3  I havent tried to re-install rev yet, is this the only option,  
I was
wondering if there was a configuration within rev that I can  
change.  I have
restarted XP(pro)  and run rev a number of times but the pointer  
tool is still

wrong.

Paul




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Re: Pointer Tool

2010-05-14 Thread Paul Williams

Hi Mark

a reinstall of rev in a new directory has fixed the problem, as I thought it 
would.  Thanks for confirming there was no config option which is what I 
was searching for in vain.

Paul


> Hi Paul,
> 
> Mabye, the file that contains the point cursor has been corrupted or  
> is no longer readable. A re-install of RunRev might be the easiest  
> thing to do and therefore the first I'd try. If this doesn't work, I'd  
> try running an older version of RunRev first, just to see what happens.
> 
> What happens if you set the defaultCursor to 1?
> 
> --
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> 
> Mark Schonewille
> 
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> Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer
> 
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> quote http://economy-x-talk.com/contact.html
> Download Clipboard Link http://clipboardlink.economy-x-talk.com and  
> share the clipboard of your computer over the local network.
> 
> On 14 mei 2010, at 14:23, Paul Williams wrote:
> 
> > Hi Mark
> > thanks for the comment, XP restarted OK, no problems with any other
> > software and a virus/trojan scan shows all clear.  The rev version  
> > is 4.5.0 -
> > dp-3  I havent tried to re-install rev yet, is this the only option,  
> > I was
> > wondering if there was a configuration within rev that I can  
> > change.  I have
> > restarted XP(pro)  and run rev a number of times but the pointer  
> > tool is still
> > wrong.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
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Re: [audio] Call for an updated enhanced quicktime audio library or a small audio complementary library!

Thanks for particiapting, and... Good point...!

I do not precisely remember having tried this cross fade trick. Have you?

So far, i understood that the playLoudness would fix the general system
loudness.
So that... you could not really cross fade, but only fade in succession :
fade out - from 100 to nill - fade in back from nil to 100. And this does
leave a real bad hole in perception!

I'll give it a go to make sure.. for the record.

>> Again, this will only work with player objects, not imported WAV files.
This implies again to make a copy of the files to the hard disk, with
possible problems if user hard quits, leaving rubbish behind. But again so
far the only solution it seems!

>> The bigger issue is synchronized start/stop of the players.
In my project I'm dealing with small chunks of voice recordings. So so
mix'in and out is really short. I will try it that way though.

++ the idea would be to do the fade in and out just once and record the
audio chunks as such, thus applying audio effects on the files, and keep
them nicely in the stack, hence the call for an audio library applying
effects on wave files, before playing with the player.

+ Ideally if runrev supported an open source compressed format we could deal
with quite a lot more audio within the stacks, not relying solely on
quicktime. We can always output to quicktime at the final stage, but we
would need some more independant way of housing in a stack compressed audio.
And this should not be too difficult as these open standards exist.

AAC could be a good move, for its widespread use and on mobiles too
(android), thought there may be some license requirements.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Audio_Coding

We are soon going to face an "interesting (!)" sad situation : we're going
to have better audio functions on mobile platforms than on runrev
desktops time to pull the alarm trigger!

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Re: Zombie Win icon

2010-05-14 Thread David Glasgow

On 12 May 2010, at 10:22 pm, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote:

> I don't know the exact answer, but I've never encountered the problem because 
> I always save standalones into a new folder, and I never replace older ones 
> in a folder with newer builds. I just toss the entire old folder and use the 
> new one. So maybe that's the quick solution.
> 
> Alternately, if the thumbs.db file is the culprit, you could try just 
> deleting that. That should force the OS to read the embedded icons in the app 
> instead.

OK.  It seems that I couldn't find the Thumbs.db file because Vista doesn't 
have them!

"In Windows Vista Thumbs.db file has been replaced by a number of 
"thumbcache_xxx.db" files which are now located within a user's profile at
\Users\\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Explorer"

The zombie icon symptom is normal behaviour for the system:

"...when a graphic is viewed and an entry made for it in the database, it is 
maintained indefinitely by the operating system. If the file is deleted, 
the image will remain unless the file or the entire folder are deleted."

Local Thumbs.db and the finder.dat files have irritated me in the past, and 
tripped up some of my scripts.  However, suddenly they seem quite sensible 
compared with a giant, unmodifiable central database.

So.  In short.  Don't do what I did, do what Jacqueline does. (Actually, a good 
general rule in matters Rev)

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OT: Adobe's New Anti Apple Ads

2010-05-14 Thread David Bovill

Just for fun :)

   - Adobe starts Anti Apple Ad
campaign
   - Adobe's reply to Mr Jobs 
   - Adobe on "openness" 
   - And Microsoft don't like Flash
either?
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Re: OT: [Mac OSX] Is it possible to have Dashcode 2 and Dashcode 3 on the same Machine?

Matthias,

I keep a copy of each of two versions of xcode on my machine but the Developer 
folder is blessed so I have to keep one of the copies on a separate hard drive 
and delete the other when working with them. I tried just renaming them and 
keeping both at the same time but since the root path is so inherent in most of 
the functionality of the dev tools I ran into trouble. 

I installed the full product then copied it to an external hard drive. I then 
installed the other version and copied that to the external drive as well 
renamed so I would know which was which. Then when I need to dev in one I copy 
that one over named correctly and start using it. 

Not the best solution but it worked for me.

Tom McGrath III
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On May 14, 2010, at 8:03 AM, Matthias Rebbe wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> i want to play around a little bit with QuickConnectiPhone (a javascript 
> framework). But for that i need Dashcode 2 on my machine, because the 
> templates of QuickConnectiPhone are only Dascode 2 compatible. 
> 
> Does anymone know, if it is possible to have Xocde SDKs installed on the same 
> machine. Do i have to install it just into an other folder? Any help is 
> appreciated.
> 
> Regards,
> 
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Re: OT: Adobe's New Anti Apple Ads


David Bovill wrote:
...

   - And Microsoft don't like Flash
either?


Portions of that statement have been used by many Apple advocates as 
"confirming" that Microsoft feels the same about Flash as Steve Jobs does.


But the headline of that article, "Microsoft on Flash: What Steve Said", 
doesn't tell the whole story.


It seems Microsoft is playing it down the middle, a useful strategic 
position for them, as evidenced by the portion of their statement that 
doesn't get as much airplay in Mac advocacy venues:


   Despite these issues, Flash remains an important part of
   delivering a good consumer experience on today’s Web.


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Re: RevIgniter Framework questions

2010-05-14 Thread Ralf Bitter

On 14.05.2010, at 07:36, Chipp Walters wrote:

> Hi all. I was wondering if anyone is using the RevIgniter framework in a 
> production environment and if they wouldn't mind answering a few questions 
> about it?
> 
> Questions:
> 
> 1. Does it only work with On-Rev's servers? That's potentially a deal killer.

As we all know, as long as the server version of Revolution
is not available for other web servers, irev is bound to
On-Rev servers. This currently applies to all irev driven
frameworks like Andre's RevSpark and revIgniter.
But, as stated in the FAQ this will change:
"There will be editions of Rev Server Scripting technology
available for other web servers in the future …"
This is something I counted on as I decided to build
revIgniter and I think this is crucial for irev to become widespread
and to build a market around it.

> 2. Are there performance bottlenecks with regard to the Rev part, and if so, 
> what are they?

revIgniter lets you cache your pages in order to achieve maximum performance.
There is database caching too, dynamic component loading, there are hook points,
which permit you to use your own cache display mechanism, and there is a 
benchmark
library, which helps in optimizing your site regarding speed.
As a side note: The benchmark tag is not cached so you can still view your page
load speed even when caching is enabled.

> 3. How well is it documented and supported?

To form a view on this subject you are invited to check the user guide.

> 4. How easy is it for existing RR'ers to learn?

Once you have got the idea of refIgniter's approach to separate logic from
presentation, it is merely writing rev code as you are accustomed to.
Of course, some knowledge of web technology is required.

> 5. What does the available pool of Rev developers look like who could help 
> write apps using it?

There are no reliable numbers, but we should keep in mind, that the
server version of Revolution is still in alpha state, so it is
not available for other web servers and this means, that currently
the acceptance and therefor the user base for revIgniter may be limited.

> 6. Are there any obvious security issues?

revIgniter comes with a Cross Site Scripting Hack prevention filter, which
can either run automatically to filter all POST and COOKIE data that is
encountered, or you can run it on a per item basis.
Form validation is implemented too.

> 7. How complete a framework is it? What type of app is it best used for?

There are still features not published mainly due to shortcomings of the
server engine. Example: trackback/pingback needs socket connection. So, as long
as sockets are not supported there will be no Trackback library.

Apart from that, revIgniter can be easily extended through the use of plugins,
libraries or system hooks.

> 8. How much Javascript does one have to know in order to use this?

If you would like to use the revIgniter's jQuery library to build jQuery code
you need to make yourself familiar with jQuery and JavaScript to some degree,
otherwise forget about it.

> 
> Any insight would be much appreciated! 

Hope this helps.

Ralf

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Re: OT: Adobe's New Anti Apple Ads

2010-05-14 Thread Richmond Mathewson


 On 14/05/2010 17:02, David Bovill wrote:

Just for fun :)

- Adobe starts Anti Apple Ad
campaign
- Adobe's reply to Mr Jobs
- Adobe on "openness"
- And Microsoft don't like Flash
either?


I just had time to have a quick read of Number 1:

I mean, talk about the pot calling the kettle black:

If it weren't for the fact that Apple and Adobe are socking great companies
wielding I-don'y-know-how-much financial clout it would look like 2 boys
in a playground fighting over which one of them is a liar; i.e. all rather
childish.

Neither company have got a leg to stand on when they start talking
about:

"open markets and an open Web"

for 'open' read 'controlled by Adobe's stuff' or 'controlled by Apple's 
stuff';


I say "stuff them both" and "go west young man" to the land of Linux and
Open Source; while it may not be to everybody's taste, at least the word
'open' is not being resemanticised quicker than you can guess the colour
of Steve Jobs' underpants . . .  :)

Hey; I tell you one thing; I reckon I've got an even chance on they're not
being 'Adobe Red'. And I would suppose
the boss of Adobe goes without as all is "Air".
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Another Revlets question...

2010-05-14 Thread tkuyp...@telenet.be

Am I correct to assue that the command 
   go to stack "The is the second stack" 
does not work in a Revlet?

I created a Mainstack with one button, containing the above code, but nothing 
happens when I click on it in the Revlet. Locally it works fine of course
Tried this in 4.0 and 4.5, same result :-(

Met vriendelijke groeten,
Warm Regards,


Ton Kuypers
+32 (0) 477 739 530

Aardbemden 11 • B-2400 • Mol • Belgium
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Re: Another Revlets question...


Hi Ton,

You might try:

go to stack "The is the second stack" in the window of this stack

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On 14 mei 2010, at 16:54, tkuyp...@telenet.be wrote:


Am I correct to assue that the command
  go to stack "The is the second stack"
does not work in a Revlet?

I created a Mainstack with one button, containing the above code,  
but nothing happens when I click on it in the Revlet. Locally it  
works fine of course

Tried this in 4.0 and 4.5, same result :-(

Met vriendelijke groeten,
Warm Regards,


Ton Kuypers
+32 (0) 477 739 530

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Re: Another Revlets question...

2010-05-14 Thread tkuyp...@telenet.be

Great! That works, thanks!!!


Met vriendelijke groeten,

Ton Kuypers



On 14-mei-2010, at 17:01, Mark Schonewille wrote:

> go to stack "The is the second stack" in the window of this stack

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Re: OT: [Mac OSX] Is it possible to have Dashcode 2 and Dashcode 3 on the same Machine?

Thanks for your anwser, Thomas.

Maybe you also know, which of the Xcode SDKs contain Dashcode 2?

Regards,

Matthias


Am 14.05.2010 um 16:08 schrieb Thomas McGrath III:

> Matthias,
> 
> I keep a copy of each of two versions of xcode on my machine but the 
> Developer folder is blessed so I have to keep one of the copies on a separate 
> hard drive and delete the other when working with them. I tried just renaming 
> them and keeping both at the same time but since the root path is so inherent 
> in most of the functionality of the dev tools I ran into trouble. 
> 
> I installed the full product then copied it to an external hard drive. I then 
> installed the other version and copied that to the external drive as well 
> renamed so I would know which was which. Then when I need to dev in one I 
> copy that one over named correctly and start using it. 
> 
> Not the best solution but it worked for me.
> 
> Tom McGrath III
> Lazy River Software
> http://lazyriver.on-rev.com
> 3mcgr...@comcast.net
> 
> I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us...
> http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com
> 
> I Can Speak on the iPad Store
> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8
> 
> 
> On May 14, 2010, at 8:03 AM, Matthias Rebbe wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> i want to play around a little bit with QuickConnectiPhone (a javascript 
>> framework). But for that i need Dashcode 2 on my machine, because the 
>> templates of QuickConnectiPhone are only Dascode 2 compatible. 
>> 
>> Does anymone know, if it is possible to have Xocde SDKs installed on the 
>> same machine. Do i have to install it just into an other folder? Any help is 
>> appreciated.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
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[Data Grid] get the header text color

Hi Trevor and All,


I checked the doc:

header text color
The text color to apply to the header area of a table. Prefix property
name with "effective" to get the color being used when this property
is set to empty.

However when I try to get the "header text color" or the "effective
header text color" property, I obtain empty.

I checked in the DataGrid Library code, and not found any entry for
this property in the getProps handler.

I'm wrong?

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RE: Printing in a revlet

2010-05-14 Thread Jim Schaubeck

I have tried IE (8.0) with no luck.  Same blank page print-out.  (Preview is
also blank)


jim schaubeck
714.321.4499


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To: How to use Revolution
Subject: Re: Printing in a revlet

Jim Schaubeck wrote:
> Thanks Jacqueline.  I do hope that some sort of solution (or even work
> around) is found for printing within revlets.  End users view printing as
> one of those things that magically just work (can't blame them).  However,
I
> know it's harder than it looks.

The person who submitted a support ticket also said that revlets won't 
print on IE. Can you confirm? I think I need to write up a bug report 
and the more info, the better. If anyone else has info about revlet 
printing on any other browsers/platforms, that'd be good to know too.

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Caret/insert position in field

2010-05-14 Thread Jeff Massung

I'm trying to do some interesting things that require me to know the exact
character position offset within a line in a field. Is this possible right
now in Rev? I can use the selectedLine to get the line number, but the
selectedChunk returns characters from the beginning of the field.

Is there a way for me to get the character offset to the beginning of a line
easily?  Note: I don't want to do something like

offset(the value of the selectedLine, fld "foo")

because this can return false positives and can end up being extremely slow
when working in large files.

Thanks for any thoughts/suggestions!

Jeff M.
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Re: [audio] Call for an updated enhanced quicktime audio library or a small audio complementary library!


Ok it works... in the first attempt the audio rendering was messed up by the
UI refreshing. With a little tweakering it goes fine on my old macbook! I
uploaded to revOnLine the test/proof of concept stack! thanks again. Robert
http://n4.nabble.com/file/n2216860/fadeInadnOutTest.rev fadeInadnOutTest.rev 
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RE: Printing in a revlet

2010-05-14 Thread Jim Schaubeck

Blank page with Safari 4.0.5 (on W7).  Results are the same as IE


jim schaubeck
714.321.4499


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Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 9:20 AM
To: 'How to use Revolution'
Subject: RE: Printing in a revlet

I have tried IE (8.0) with no luck.  Same blank page print-out.  (Preview is
also blank)


jim schaubeck
714.321.4499


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To: How to use Revolution
Subject: Re: Printing in a revlet

Jim Schaubeck wrote:
> Thanks Jacqueline.  I do hope that some sort of solution (or even work
> around) is found for printing within revlets.  End users view printing as
> one of those things that magically just work (can't blame them).  However,
I
> know it's harder than it looks.

The person who submitted a support ticket also said that revlets won't 
print on IE. Can you confirm? I think I need to write up a bug report 
and the more info, the better. If anyone else has info about revlet 
printing on any other browsers/platforms, that'd be good to know too.

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Re: Will revCGI be made available (not just revServer)?

2010-05-14 Thread Tereza Snyder


On May 13, 2010, at 6:41 PM, Lyn Teyla wrote:

> We were wondering if there are still plans to continue
> releasing the CGI engine (not just revServer) in the
> future?
> 
> If so, when should we be expecting the next release?
> Thanks in advance!


Moments ago, I conceived a plan for porting my used-to-be-destined-for-the-iPad 
rev app to using Rev CGI. Please! I want to know too!


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Re: Another Revlets question...


very useful question and answer, thanks. 

By the way, it could be useful if we could try and label our threads so that
late one one can find more easily this precious knowledge!! no!?  to avoid..
the where did I saw that effect.. !!!
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Re: Caret/insert position in field

2010-05-14 Thread DunbarX

You sort of already had it. Wouldn't:

on mouseUp
get lineoffset(yourChar,yourField) 
answer offset(yourChar,the value of line it of fld yourField) 
end mouseUp

do?

Do you really always have the line you need? Or is that part of the issue? 
As for false positives, this will only give the first instance of the 
character. How do you know which instances are valid?

Craig Newman
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Re: Will revCGI be made available (not just revServer)?

Tereza Snyder wrote:

> On May 13, 2010, at 6:41 PM, Lyn Teyla wrote:
>
>> We were wondering if there are still plans to continue
>> releasing the CGI engine (not just revServer) in the
>> future?
>>
>> If so, when should we be expecting the next release?
>> Thanks in advance!
>
>
> Moments ago, I conceived a plan for porting my used-to-be-destined-
> for-the-iPad rev app to using Rev CGI. Please! I want to know too!

Some of the enhancements to the merge function in the engine used at 
On-Rev are convenient, and the real-time debugging is indeed a great 
time-saver but AFAIK that was always slated to be exclusive to the 
On-Rev hosting config anyway.

So since the differences between the v3.5 Rev CGI engine we have and a 
new one would seem minimal, what specific features are you looking for?

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Re: OT: [Mac OSX] Is it possible to have Dashcode 2 and Dashcode 3 on the same Machine?

Dashcode 2 came out in 3.1 in beta and I use 3.2.2 where Dashcode is now 3.

So I am assuming that anything before 3.2 would have it.

HTHs

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On May 14, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Matthias Rebbe wrote:

> Thanks for your anwser, Thomas.
> 
> Maybe you also know, which of the Xcode SDKs contain Dashcode 2?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Matthias
> 

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Re: Printing in a revlet

2010-05-14 Thread J. Landman Gay


Jim Schaubeck wrote:
> Blank page with Safari 4.0.5 (on W7).  Results are the same as IE

Thanks Jim. I've updated my report with this info, but if you (or 
anyone) have anything else to add you can find the bug report here:



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Re: Thoughts on Kevin's announcement

2010-05-14 Thread J. Landman Gay


Robert Mann wrote:

Jacqueline, let me take a precise example.. i'took a license for sygodact.
It's an "old" CGI stack. So I had to install an "old" runrev engine in the
CGI folder. It would be simpler if the new on-rev engine accepted stacks
like the old one : 


Thanks, I understand what you mean now. The good news is that today's 
newsletter says that what you want to do with iRev is planned. :) 
Eventually iRev server will work with stacks.


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[Data Grid] set the dimmed hilite color

Hi again,

It seems that there is no way to set the "(effective) dimmed hilite
color" property of a Data Grid.
I checked the setProp handler of the Data Grid library and found
nothing to set this property. Plus the getProp of this property seems
to return always the kDefaultDimmedHiliteColor constant.

I'm wrong?


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Re: Resize stack ...

2010/5/14 Jean-Pierre Soto :
> Hello,
>
> is there a way for user to resize stack when the decoration of this stack is
> set to empty.
>
> Jean-Pierre
>

Hi Jean-Pierre,

A possible way consists to open the RR's Object Library (menu
Development->Object Library)
In the library search for the "Mac Style Stack Resizer" or the "Win
Style Stack Resizer" object. Choose the object you need depending of
your system, then click on "the place object" button.

You have now the code to resize your stack, with no effort ;)


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Re: getting the user's (internet, not local network) IP address

Josh,

Using:
--
set the hideConsoleWindows to true
put shell("ipconfig/all") into v
put v into fld 1
end mouseUp
--
Gives you:
--

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : fake11
Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . : fake.edu
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : fake.edu

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix: 
Description: Broadcom NetXtreme 57xx Gigabit Controller

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-FA-KE-B8-AE-8B
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 75.108.90.130
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.254.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 75.108.90.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.24.120.39
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 208.180.42.100
208.180.42.68
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--- On Thu, 5/13/10, Josh Mellicker  wrote:

> From: Josh Mellicker 
> Subject: Re: getting the user's (internet, not local network) IP address
> To: "How to use Revolution" 
> Date: Thursday, May 13, 2010, 10:15 PM
> Does that get the internet IP or
> local IP?
> 
> 
> On Mac, this returns:
> 
> usage: ipconfig  
> where  is one of waitall, getifaddr,
> ifcount, getoption, getpacket, set, setverbose
> 
> 
> 
> On May 13, 2010, at 7:24 PM, Michael Kann wrote:
> 
> > On Windows XP:
> > 
> > on mouseUp
> > set the hideConsoleWindows to true
> > put shell("ipconfig") into fld 1 // parse out what you
> want
> > end mouseUp
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- On Thu, 5/13/10, Josh Mellicker 
> wrote:
> > 
> >> From: Josh Mellicker 
> >> Subject: getting the user's (internet, not local
> network) IP address
> >> To: "how to use Revolution" 
> >> Date: Thursday, May 13, 2010, 9:14 PM
> >> Just thought I'd share this in case
> >> it was of any use to anyone, and so at least one
> post on the
> >> list is not about Steve Jobs and Apple's
> tyrannical actions
> >> :-)
> >> 
> >> 
> >> To get the user's (internet, not local network) IP
> address,
> >> put a text file on your server with this code:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Then in your app:
> >> 
> >> get url 
> >> "http://yourdomain.com/folder-you-put-the-php-file-in/your-php-filename.php";
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Is there a better
> >>
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Re: getting the user's (internet, not local network) IP address

2010-05-14 Thread Andre Garzia

Josh,

I don't think a better way is needed. Since in the rare case that he has a
network connection but can't connect to your server, then, there's something
odd happening.

Yes there's the case where the whole app locks while trying to find if it
can connect or not, maybe setting the socketTimeout to low value might speed
up the failure scenario.

Andre

On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 11:14 PM, Josh Mellicker wrote:

> Just thought I'd share this in case it was of any use to anyone, and so at
> least one post on the list is not about Steve Jobs and Apple's tyrannical
> actions :-)
>
>
> To get the user's (internet, not local network) IP address, put a text file
> on your server with this code:
>
> 
>
>
> Then in your app:
>
> get url "
> http://yourdomain.com/folder-you-put-the-php-file-in/your-php-filename.php
> "
>
>
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Re: OT: [Mac OSX] Is it possible to have Dashcode 2 and Dashcode 3 on the same Machine?

Thanks for your anwser, Thomas.

Maybe you also know, which of the Xcode SDKs contain Dashcode 2?

Regards,

Matthias

Am 14.05.2010 um 19:12 schrieb Thomas McGrath III:

> Dashcode 2 came out in 3.1 in beta and I use 3.2.2 where Dashcode is now 3.
> 
> So I am assuming that anything before 3.2 would have it.
> 
> HTHs
> 
> Tom McGrath III
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> 
> 
> On May 14, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Matthias Rebbe wrote:
> 
>> Thanks for your anwser, Thomas.
>> 
>> Maybe you also know, which of the Xcode SDKs contain Dashcode 2?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Matthias
>> 
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Re: Caret/insert position in field

2010-05-14 Thread Jeff Massung

Just want to take a moment and re-explain my problem a little.

The user is typing in the field, and I'd like to do some special formatting
when the user hits the tab key. So, immediately I have:

on tabKey
  put the selectedLine
end tabKey

This will give me something like "line 204 of field 2", which is great, and
I can use that to get the text on that line so I can begin formatting.

The problem is that I need to know the user's caret (insert) position,
because the formatting will behave differently if the insert position is at
the beginning of the line as opposed to somewhere in the middle. For
example, if at the beginning, it might actually insert a tab, otherwise it
will do something else.

But, I can't seem to figure out where the insert position within that line
happens to be. The selectedChunk returns characters from the start of the
field.

Thanks for the suggestions.

Jeff M.
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Re: getting the user's (internet, not local network) IP address

2010-05-14 Thread Jeff Massung

On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Josh Mellicker  wrote:
>
>
> To get the user's (internet, not local network) IP address, put a text file
> on your server with this code:
>
> 
>
>
>
This still doesn't [fully] work. While not the local IP address, you'd still
have to perform NAT traversal in order to do any actual communication with
the client machine (read: anything useful).  At best, with this IP address
you can find out the general county/city the client machine is located in.

Jeff M.
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Re: OT: [Mac OSX] Is it possible to have Dashcode 2 and Dashcode 3 on the same Machine?

LOL, I thought I just answered that?

I assume it is any SDK after SDK 3.1 when Dashcode 2 came out but before SDK 
3.2 when Dashcode 3 came out.

I would go with SDK 3.1.5

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On May 14, 2010, at 3:08 PM, Matthias Rebbe wrote:

> Thanks for your anwser, Thomas.
> 
> Maybe you also know, which of the Xcode SDKs contain Dashcode 2?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Matthias
> 
> Am 14.05.2010 um 19:12 schrieb Thomas McGrath III:
> 
>> Dashcode 2 came out in 3.1 in beta and I use 3.2.2 where Dashcode is now 3.
>> 
>> So I am assuming that anything before 3.2 would have it.
>> 
>> HTHs
>> 
>> Tom McGrath III
>> Lazy River Software
>> http://lazyriver.on-rev.com
>> 3mcgr...@comcast.net
>> 
>> I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us...
>> http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com
>> 
>> I Can Speak on the iPad Store
>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8
>> 
>> 
>> On May 14, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Matthias Rebbe wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks for your anwser, Thomas.
>>> 
>>> Maybe you also know, which of the Xcode SDKs contain Dashcode 2?
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Matthias
>>> 
>> 
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DataGrid: how to prevent text from showing in reverse colors in hilited row

I've noticed that the DataGrid likes to reverse the color of text in the 
hilited row, and while this is common in Windows in my case I've chosen 
the text, background, and hilite colors to work well together and would 
prefer to leave the text color as-is.


Is there a way to turn that color reversal off?

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Re: OT: [Mac OSX] Is it possible to have Dashcode 2 and Dashcode 3 on the same Machine?

Yes you did. And i sent a direct reply to it, but used a wrong sender adress. 
And so my e-mail was not accepted by the list.
I had to resend the e-mail. Used your original e-mail and copied by mistake my 
old "text" into it. Sorry.
And also thanks for your answers.

Matthias



Am 14.05.2010 um 21:20 schrieb Thomas McGrath III:

> LOL, I thought I just answered that?
> 
> I assume it is any SDK after SDK 3.1 when Dashcode 2 came out but before SDK 
> 3.2 when Dashcode 3 came out.
> 
> I would go with SDK 3.1.5
> 
> Tom McGrath III
> Lazy River Software
> http://lazyriver.on-rev.com
> 3mcgr...@comcast.net
> 
> I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us...
> http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com
> 
> I Can Speak on the iPad Store
> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8
> 
> On May 14, 2010, at 3:08 PM, Matthias Rebbe wrote:
> 
>> Thanks for your anwser, Thomas.
>> 
>> Maybe you also know, which of the Xcode SDKs contain Dashcode 2?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Matthias
>> 
>> Am 14.05.2010 um 19:12 schrieb Thomas McGrath III:
>> 
>>> Dashcode 2 came out in 3.1 in beta and I use 3.2.2 where Dashcode is now 3.
>>> 
>>> So I am assuming that anything before 3.2 would have it.
>>> 
>>> HTHs
>>> 
>>> Tom McGrath III
>>> Lazy River Software
>>> http://lazyriver.on-rev.com
>>> 3mcgr...@comcast.net
>>> 
>>> I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us...
>>> http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com
>>> 
>>> I Can Speak on the iPad Store
>>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 14, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Matthias Rebbe wrote:
>>> 
 Thanks for your anwser, Thomas.
 
 Maybe you also know, which of the Xcode SDKs contain Dashcode 2?
 
 Regards,
 
 Matthias
 
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Re: Caret/insert position in field

2010-05-14 Thread J. Landman Gay


Jeff Massung wrote:

Just want to take a moment and re-explain my problem a little.

The user is typing in the field, and I'd like to do some special formatting
when the user hits the tab key. So, immediately I have:

on tabKey
  put the selectedLine
end tabKey

This will give me something like "line 204 of field 2", which is great, and
I can use that to get the text on that line so I can begin formatting.

The problem is that I need to know the user's caret (insert) position,
because the formatting will behave differently if the insert position is at
the beginning of the line as opposed to somewhere in the middle. For
example, if at the beginning, it might actually insert a tab, otherwise it
will do something else.

But, I can't seem to figure out where the insert position within that line
happens to be. The selectedChunk returns characters from the start of the
field.

Thanks for the suggestions.


This seems to work but I'm not sure how fast it would be on huge data 
sets. The engine is pretty fast in general though when it comes to text 
chunking:


function charCount
  put (the number of chars in line 1 to (word 2 of the selectedline)-1 \
 of me) + 1 into tTotal -- to end of prev line plus the CR
  put word 4 of the selectedchunk into tCharPos
  return tCharPos - tTotal
end charCount

That extra "+1" at the end of the first line is to account for the 
carriage return, which Rev won't count otherwise.


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[ANN] tRev Decoder lets you travel in time!

2010-05-14 Thread Jerry Daniels


tRev users and others seeking solace, distraction, inspiration...

I've got an interesting video for you to view:

http://reveditor.com/the-decoder-lets-you-time-travel

We've added a new feature to tRev's Decoder (modeless debugger). It  
now keeps a record of every time a tRev breakpoint gets refreshed with  
data.


With this new feature, the Decoder will let you walk through  
iterations of a breakpoint with a snazzy, user interface. Once you see  
it, you'll slap your head and say..."Yeah, of course!"


This feature is excellent for when you want to see the values of your  
variables during several iterations of a repeat loop. Since tRev uses  
database-driven, modeless debugging which is entirely separate from  
Rev IDE, you can go backward or forward in time to see what your code  
is--or was--doing.


This is also great if you want to view your code's context from a week  
ago. Although tRev's Decoder does not take you into the future, using  
this feature makes you feel like you're in the future!


Have a look, download it and try it, if you aren't already using tRev!

Best,

Jerry Daniels

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Re: Caret/insert position in field

Jeff,

Here's a way to suck out info from the cursor position in a fld. Perhaps it 
will give you an idea or two.

on mouseUp
put numToChar(255) into marker
set the itemDelimiter to marker
put marker after the selection
--
put fld 1 into v // typing text
--
-- use v to find position in text
--
delete item 2 of v
put num of chars in v into insert_pos
put num of chars in v & cr after h
put num of words in v & cr after h
put num of lines in v & cr after h
--
put the last line of v into vv
--
put num of chars in vv & cr after h
put num of words in vv & cr after h
---
put the last word of v into vvv
put num of chars in vvv & cr after h
put h into fld 2 // output fld
---
--get fld 1 back to original state
---
delete char (insert_pos + 1) of fld 1
---
end mouseUp


  
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Re: DataGrid: how to prevent text from showing in reverse colors in hilited row

http://lessons.runrev.com/spaces/lessons/manuals/datagrid/lessons/7332-How-Can-I-Colorize-Individual-Lines-in-a-Table-

--- On Fri, 5/14/10, Richard Gaskin  wrote:

> From: Richard Gaskin 
> Subject: DataGrid:  how to prevent text from showing in reverse colors in 
> hilited row
> To: "How to use Revolution" 
> Date: Friday, May 14, 2010, 3:11 PM
> I've noticed that the DataGrid likes
> to reverse the color of text in the hilited row, and while
> this is common in Windows in my case I've chosen the text,
> background, and hilite colors to work well together and
> would prefer to leave the text color as-is.
> 
> Is there a way to turn that color reversal off?
> 
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Re: DataGrid: how to prevent text from showing in reverse colors in hilited row

Richard, after actually reading the lesson, I realize that it might not be what 
you need. Sorry.


--- On Fri, 5/14/10, Michael Kann  wrote:

> From: Michael Kann 
> Subject: Re: DataGrid: how to prevent text from showing in reverse colors in 
> hilited row
> To: "How to use Revolution" 
> Date: Friday, May 14, 2010, 3:30 PM
> http://lessons.runrev.com/spaces/lessons/manuals/datagrid/lessons/7332-How-Can-I-Colorize-Individual-Lines-in-a-Table-
> 
> --- On Fri, 5/14/10, Richard Gaskin 
> wrote:
> 
> > From: Richard Gaskin 
> > Subject: DataGrid:  how to prevent text from
> showing in reverse colors in hilited row
> > To: "How to use Revolution" 
> > Date: Friday, May 14, 2010, 3:11 PM
> > I've noticed that the DataGrid likes
> > to reverse the color of text in the hilited row, and
> while
> > this is common in Windows in my case I've chosen the
> text,
> > background, and hilite colors to work well together
> and
> > would prefer to leave the text color as-is.
> > 
> > Is there a way to turn that color reversal off?
> > 
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Re: [ANN] tRev Decoder lets you travel in time!

2010-05-14 Thread Mark Wieder

Jerry-

Friday, May 14, 2010, 1:17:40 PM, you wrote:

> With this new feature, the Decoder will let you walk through
> iterations of a breakpoint with a snazzy, user interface. Once you see
> it, you'll slap your head and say..."Yeah, of course!"

Yay!

> ago. Although tRev's Decoder does not take you into the future, using

Not so. I'm livin' it now...

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Re: OT: [Mac OSX] Is it possible to have Dashcode 2 and Dashcode 3 on the same Machine?

 I thought I answered or I was going nuts. That was why I LOL'd.

Glad it helped.

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On May 14, 2010, at 4:12 PM, Matthias Rebbe wrote:

> Yes you did. And i sent a direct reply to it, but used a wrong sender adress. 
> And so my e-mail was not accepted by the list.
> I had to resend the e-mail. Used your original e-mail and copied by mistake 
> my old "text" into it. Sorry.
> And also thanks for your answers.
> 
> Matthias
> 
> 
> 
> Am 14.05.2010 um 21:20 schrieb Thomas McGrath III:
> 
>> LOL, I thought I just answered that?
>> 
>> I assume it is any SDK after SDK 3.1 when Dashcode 2 came out but before SDK 
>> 3.2 when Dashcode 3 came out.
>> 
>> I would go with SDK 3.1.5
>> 
>> Tom McGrath III
>> Lazy River Software
>> http://lazyriver.on-rev.com
>> 3mcgr...@comcast.net
>> 
>> I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us...
>> http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com
>> 
>> I Can Speak on the iPad Store
>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8
>> 
>> On May 14, 2010, at 3:08 PM, Matthias Rebbe wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks for your anwser, Thomas.
>>> 
>>> Maybe you also know, which of the Xcode SDKs contain Dashcode 2?
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Matthias
>>> 
>>> Am 14.05.2010 um 19:12 schrieb Thomas McGrath III:
>>> 
 Dashcode 2 came out in 3.1 in beta and I use 3.2.2 where Dashcode is now 3.
 
 So I am assuming that anything before 3.2 would have it.
 
 HTHs
 
 Tom McGrath III
 Lazy River Software
 http://lazyriver.on-rev.com
 3mcgr...@comcast.net
 
 I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us...
 http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com
 
 I Can Speak on the iPad Store
 http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8
 
 
 On May 14, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Matthias Rebbe wrote:
 
> Thanks for your anwser, Thomas.
> 
> Maybe you also know, which of the Xcode SDKs contain Dashcode 2?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Matthias
> 
 
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Re: DataGrid: how to prevent text from showing in reverse colors in hilited row

2010/5/14 Richard Gaskin :
> I've noticed that the DataGrid likes to reverse the color of text in the
> hilited row, and while this is common in Windows in my case I've chosen the
> text, background, and hilite colors to work well together and would prefer
> to leave the text color as-is.
>
> Is there a way to turn that color reversal off?


Hi Richard,

Try to set your "hilited text color" property to the color you cant.

Usage:
set the dgProp["hilited text color"] of tMyDataGrid to tTheColor



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Re: DataGrid: how to prevent text from showing in reverse colors in hilited row

missed the correct letter here

not cant but want ^^

2010/5/14 zryip theSlug :
> 2010/5/14 Richard Gaskin :
>> I've noticed that the DataGrid likes to reverse the color of text in the
>> hilited row, and while this is common in Windows in my case I've chosen the
>> text, background, and hilite colors to work well together and would prefer
>> to leave the text color as-is.
>>
>> Is there a way to turn that color reversal off?
>
>
> Hi Richard,
>
> Try to set your "hilited text color" property to the color you cant.
>
> Usage:
> set the dgProp["hilited text color"] of tMyDataGrid to tTheColor
>
>
>
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>



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Re: DataGrid: how to prevent text from showing in reverse colors in hilited row


theSlug wrote:


2010/5/14 Richard Gaskin :

I've noticed that the DataGrid likes to reverse the color of text in the
hilited row, and while this is common in Windows in my case I've chosen the
text, background, and hilite colors to work well together and would prefer
to leave the text color as-is.

Is there a way to turn that color reversal off?


Hi Richard,

Try to set your "hilited text color" property to the color you cant.

Usage:
set the dgProp["hilited text color"] of tMyDataGrid to tTheColor


Ah - thanks.

Somehow I missed that property when I was looking for something like 
that.  Leave it to Trevor to think of everything. :)


Thanks, Slug. :)

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Re: Will revCGI be made available (not just revServer)?

2010-05-14 Thread Lyn Teyla

Richard Gaskin wrote:

> Some of the enhancements to the merge function in the engine used at On-Rev 
> are convenient, and the real-time debugging is indeed a great time-saver but 
> AFAIK that was always slated to be exclusive to the On-Rev hosting config 
> anyway.
> 
> So since the differences between the v3.5 Rev CGI engine we have and a new 
> one would seem minimal, what specific features are you looking for?

Our main concern is that any new features and bug fixes that
are included with the Rev engine in the future (and quite a
few are always listed with each revision as per the engine
notes) would no longer be available to CGI scripters if v3.5
is going to be the last version of the CGI engine.

At this time, v3.5 is indeed still rather up-to-date in terms
of core engine features, since it does support the current
major features such as multi-dimensional arrays and behaviors.

However, if future versions of the Rev engine were to include
similarly important features, or say a crucial memory leak bug
fix, it would be good to know if these will be made available
to the CGI folks.

Lyn

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Re: [Data Grid] get the header text color

2010/5/14 zryip theSlug :

It seems same for the "Text color" property.


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Re: Will revCGI be made available (not just revServer)?


Lyn Teyla wrote:

> Richard Gaskin wrote:
>
>> So since the differences between the v3.5 Rev CGI engine we have
>> and a new one would seem minimal, what specific features are you
>> looking for?
>
> Our main concern is that any new features and bug fixes that
> are included with the Rev engine in the future (and quite a
> few are always listed with each revision as per the engine
> notes) would no longer be available to CGI scripters if v3.5
> is going to be the last version of the CGI engine.
>
> At this time, v3.5 is indeed still rather up-to-date in terms
> of core engine features, since it does support the current
> major features such as multi-dimensional arrays and behaviors.
>
> However, if future versions of the Rev engine were to include
> similarly important features, or say a crucial memory leak bug
> fix, it would be good to know if these will be made available
> to the CGI folks.

I never thought v3.5 would be the end of the line for the CGI, just that 
v4.0 was mostly about graphic enhancements that aren't relevant to CGI 
work anyway.


During this interim the worst we face is a minor inconvenience in 
getting the v3.5 engine for use on our Linux servers for those who came 
on board with v4.0.


In the short term it would be great if RunRev could post a link to that 
engine in some convenient place on their server.


In the long term, things look even better - Mark Waddingham drops us 
some tasty hints of the future for RevServer in the latest edition of 
the newletter:


Rev Advances on Desktop and Server



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Re: getting the user's (internet, not local network) IP address

2010-05-14 Thread Alex Tweedly


On 14/05/2010 20:17, Jeff Massung wrote:


This still doesn't [fully] work. While not the local IP address, you'd still
have to perform NAT traversal in order to do any actual communication with
the client machine (read: anything useful).  At best, with this IP address
you can find out the general county/city the client machine is located in.
   
You can't even do that fully reliably. It gets fooled by VPN connections 
and multi-homed campus networks, as well as other obscure configs.


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Re: Will revCGI be made available (not just revServer)?

2010-05-14 Thread Kee Nethery

On May 14, 2010, at 3:52 PM, Lyn Teyla wrote:

> However, if future versions of the Rev engine were to include
> similarly important features, or say a crucial memory leak bug
> fix, it would be good to know if these will be made available
> to the CGI folks.

Sounds like it would be useful to have some kind of "Check for Updates..." kind 
of functionality in the development environment in case the Rev engine were to 
be updated. 

:-) I wonder if that kind of "Check for Updates ..." functionality could be 
built into the Development environment to handle the concerns you have raised?  
:-)

I know that given the privacy concerns of our business, we cannot use the Rev 
engine hosted on a machine that we do not control.

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Re: Will revCGI be made available (not just revServer)?



--- On Fri, 5/14/10, Kee Nethery  wrote:

> From: Kee Nethery 
> Subject: Re: Will revCGI be made available (not just revServer)?
> To: "How to use Revolution" 
> Date: Friday, May 14, 2010, 6:37 PM
> 
> On May 14, 2010, at 3:52 PM, Lyn Teyla wrote:
> 
> > However, if future versions of the Rev engine were to
> include
> > similarly important features, or say a crucial memory
> leak bug
> > fix, it would be good to know if these will be made
> available
> > to the CGI folks.
> 
> Sounds like it would be useful to have some kind of "Check
> for Updates..." kind of functionality in the development
> environment in case the Rev engine were to be updated. 
> 
> :-) I wonder if that kind of "Check for Updates ..."
> functionality could be built into the Development
> environment to handle the concerns you have raised? 
> :-)
> 
> I know that given the privacy concerns of our business, we
> cannot use the Rev engine hosted on a machine that we do not
> control.
> 
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