RE: Location of stack

2010-05-15 Thread Paul D. DeRocco
> From: Sarah Reichelt
>
> I'm guessing your stack has a menu. On Mac stacks, Rev does some funny
> business to hide the menu buttons off the top of the stacks window and
> create a real Mac menu. But this doesn't happen immediately.
>
> If you set the loc in a preOpenStack or startup handler, the menu bar
> will not have been hidden yet and the stack will effectively be
> taller. If you set the loc in an openStack handler, then the menu will
> have been hidden and the height of the stack the same as it was when
> you stored the loc, so it will work as expected.
>
> One workaround is to check if there is a menubar and, if so, check if
> there is a difference in height between the stack and the card. If
> they are the same, then the menu has not yet drawn and you need to
> compensate for this manually.

Thanks, Sarah. If I do it in openStack instead of preOpenStack, will it
still position the window before it's first displayed?

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Re: News on revMobile and the iPhone

2010-05-15 Thread Jim Kanter
When elephants dance, eveyone else gets squashed...

> So RunRev just seems to suffer as collateral damage in this stupid war 
> between these big players.
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Re: Nice OSX tip: creating an image with a desktop snapshot without scripting

2010-05-15 Thread Howard Bornstein
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 5:12 AM, Colin Holgate  wrote:

>
> On May 15, 2010, at 5:52 AM, Jim Sims wrote:
>
> >
> > Command-SHIFT-4-Space Bar captures the window under the cursor.
>
> That can be described better as: Command-Shift-4 gives you the usual
> caption selection to a file, and Control-Command-Shift-4 gives you the usual
> capture to clipboard, but if instead of dragging the mouse to make a
> selection, you press the space bar and then move the mouse over the various
> open windows, you can click to capture the one that is highlighted. It also
> grabs all of the window, not just the parts that are sticking out from under
> other windows.
>

This trick is very versatile.  Beside capturing entire windows as you've
described, it will also capture the entire menu bar, any open menu, the
dock, and any icon on the desktop, including the icon name. Very useful for
documentation that requires showing parts of the Macintosh interface.
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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

2010-05-15 Thread Mark Wieder
stephen-

Saturday, May 15, 2010, 3:44:39 PM, you wrote:

> makes sense. Should have run the code. Sorry to jump to conclusions.

Well, as I pointed out, I didn't actually run it myself. But while I
was writing it I noticed that deleting lines might be a problem,
thought it through and figured that it *probably* wasn't.

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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

2010-05-15 Thread stephen barncard
makes sense. Should have run the code. Sorry to jump to conclusions.

On 15 May 2010 12:01, Mark Wieder  wrote:

> stephen-
>
> Saturday, May 15, 2010, 10:43:22 AM, you wrote:
>
> > collect the line numbers on the first pass, they ya gotta count backwards
> if
> > you delete lines, Mark. Repeat for each won't work unless the entire
> script
> > is rebuilt.
>
> It's not collecting line numbers, otherwise it would indeed run into
> that problem. Just collecting actual text, and finding the lineoffset
> in the loop.
>
> > Do we need a  "backwards offset"??
>
> I'd love it if the third optional parameter for the xOffset commands
> could be negative, saying "start from the end" instead of from the
> beginning.
>
> --
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>  mwie...@ahsoftware.net
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Re: revigniter - Model-View-Controller in Rev terms?

2010-05-15 Thread Ian Wood
Thanks Sarah, Ralf & Jeff, I've read through the MVC pages in the  
revIgniter docs again and it's making more sense.


I can see that it'll be enormously powerful when understood. Watch  
this space. ;-)


Ian
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Re: revigniter - Model-View-Controller in Rev terms?

2010-05-15 Thread Jeff Massung
It might be easier to think of a real-world example to use MVC in. Try not
to analogize MVC with something in Rev or another environment that you may
be used to, because what usually ends up happening is that one ends up
sledgehammering a concept into a box that it doesn't quite fit into,
damaging the perception of what that concept actually is.

Try taking something a bit more concrete, that you understand very well, and
create a mental picture of what the Model, View(s) and Controller(s) might
be for it. For example: a checking account.

The model is strictly data. It could be a file on your hard drive, a
database entry on a remote server, or even your balance book.

The controller becomes the method by which the data in the model is changed.
For our checking account, presumably there will be functionality to withdraw
and deposit funds, transfer to another account, etc. The controller is how
the user does this. The controller could be HTTP commands, functions in a
script, or even the teller at your local branch. The controller doesn't even
have to be a user interface. For example (purely for show):

http://chase.com/deposit?acct=2938302&amnt=12.43

The view - on the other hand - is nothing more than the fetching and
representing of the data associated with the model. It could be a bar graph
showing deposits vs. withdraws over a period of time, or just a field
displaying the current balance. It could be an ATM machine, a mobile phone,
a web page, or something else. And just like the controllers, there can be
many views all functioning at once giving you many different views of the
exact same data set.

What's important here is that each of these components are independent of
each other, and they don't even need to all be present [together] to have a
functioning "application." In fact, most MVC architectures are set up in
such a way that this paradigm is magnified. In our example, the model is on
a remote server at a bank. There are many views, and many controllers. Which
view you are using right now has absolutely no bearing on what controller
you happen to be using and vice-versa. You could be standing at an ATM
making a deposit and see the new balance instantly on your Blackberry.

Hope this helps some,

Jeff M.
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Re: revigniter - Model-View-Controller in Rev terms?

2010-05-15 Thread Ralf Bitter

OK, one could compare a stack with a web application.

Then a view is what is presented to a user, something like
the layout of one card (page) of your stack, consisting of
all the visible components (images, forms, text, buttons etc.),
containing a minimal amount of code, if at all.

The controller in terms of Rev is your card script, which
holds code solely related to this specific card (page) and
serves as an intermediary between your libraries (models),
the controls on your card (page) and any other resources
(stack script etc.).

The model is the logic, responsible for inserting, updating and
retrieving data. This code, usable by all your cards (pages), resides
in a highly specialized stack (model) used as a library.

The goal of revIgniter's Model-View-Controller development pattern
is to separate application logic from presentation, to keep your
code as clean as possible ( you don't really want irev files
containig a wild mixture of HTML, CSS, JavaScript and revTalk) and
to apply reusable code (model) where appropriate. Though, the separation
added by models is not mandatory, instead revIgniter enables you to
work in a way that makes the most sense to you.


Best

Ralf



On 15.05.2010, at 21:13, Ian Wood wrote:

> I'm investigating Ralf's revIgniter framework (fantastic work, by the way), 
> and start running into my 'narrow' experience of programming...
> 
> Model-View-Controller is a programming approach that is new to me. Separating 
> presentation & data (as in most CMS-driven websites) is another matter.
> 
> A bit of help from Google & Wikipedia & I *think* I've got an idea how it 
> works, but would like some reassurance/pointers from the list in translating 
> concepts into what I know (Rev).
> 
> 
> MVC in Rev terms would be (roughly):
> 
> View is a Stack visible to the user (or audio etc.). Everything is presented 
> through this to the user.
> 
> Controller takes input from the user (mouse-clicks, typing, keystrokes etc.) 
> and does the major processing? e.g. Rev handlers that handle the bulk of the 
> logic in an app?
> 
> Model would then be equivalent to all the 'utility' handlers and libraries?
> 
> 
> I'm aware that there may not be a one-to-one equivalency here, but is this 
> along the right lines?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ian

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Re: revigniter - Model-View-Controller in Rev terms?

2010-05-15 Thread Sarah Reichelt
I haven't tried revIgniter yet, although I intend to. But my grasp of
MVC comes from Objective-C and k assume it is much the same regardless
of language.

View: as out say, this is what the use sees - the interface.
Model: this is the data structure and the data itself.
Controller: the bit in between that reacts to user input or events and
gets data from the model and presents it to the view, altering it if
required. So the Controller is where the scripts go.

Hopefully someone with a better grasp of these concepts than me, will
be able to step in here if I have got it wrong.

Cheers,
Sarah


On Sunday, May 16, 2010, Ian Wood  wrote:
> I'm investigating Ralf's revIgniter framework (fantastic work, by the way), 
> and start running into my 'narrow' experience of programming...
>
> Model-View-Controller is a programming approach that is new to me. Separating 
> presentation & data (as in most CMS-driven websites) is another matter.
>
> A bit of help from Google & Wikipedia & I *think* I've got an idea how it 
> works, but would like some reassurance/pointers from the list in translating 
> concepts into what I know (Rev).
>
>
> MVC in Rev terms would be (roughly):
>
> View is a Stack visible to the user (or audio etc.). Everything is presented 
> through this to the user.
>
> Controller takes input from the user (mouse-clicks, typing, keystrokes etc.) 
> and does the major processing? e.g. Rev handlers that handle the bulk of the 
> logic in an app?
>
> Model would then be equivalent to all the 'utility' handlers and libraries?
>
>
> I'm aware that there may not be a one-to-one equivalency here, but is this 
> along the right lines?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ian
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Re: Location of stack

2010-05-15 Thread Sarah Reichelt
I'm guessing your stack has a menu. On Mac stacks, Rev does some funny
business to hide the menu buttons off the top of the stacks window and
create a real Mac menu. But this doesn't happen immediately.

If you set the loc in a preOpenStack or startup handler, the menu bar
will not have been hidden yet and the stack will effectively be
taller. If you set the loc in an openStack handler, then the menu will
have been hidden and the height of the stack the same as it was when
you stored the loc, so it will work as expected.

One workaround is to check if there is a menubar and, if so, check if
there is a difference in height between the stack and the card. If
they are the same, then the menu has not yet drawn and you need to
compensate for this manually.

Cheers.
Sarah


On Sunday, May 16, 2010, Paul D. DeRocco  wrote:
> In my program, I write the location of my stack (among other things) to a
> text file on exit, and then read it and set the location on startup. This
> works correctly on Windows, but on the Mac, the window moves up by 12 pixels
> every time. This happens both when I run the .rev file or when I run my
> standalone. I use 'the location of stack "main"' to get and set the
> location. I'm using Rev 3.5. Is this a known bug?
>
> --
>
> Ciao,               Paul D. DeRocco
> Paul                mailto:pdero...@ix.netcom.com
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Re: Another DataGrid Question

2010-05-15 Thread zryip theSlug
2010/5/15  :
> Hi Everyone
>
> First of all thanks to Zryip for the answer to my last grid question. Now
> that problem is solved, but I have another.

You're welcome ;)

> I have a dataGrid with 8 columns and 1000 rows. Knowing the data of a line
> of column 2, I need to retrieve the data of column 1 of that line. I don't
> want to change anything in the dataGrid while doing this. How is this best
> accomplished? If it helps Column 1 is titled Securities and column 2 is titled
> Symbol.

Assuming that you know the number of the line, a possible way is to
read the data of the line, then read the content of the column
securities, like this:

put the dgDataOfLine[tTheLine] of tMyDataGrid into tTheDataA
put tTheDataA["securities"] into tTheValueOfColumn1


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Re: Is there a way to upload files?

2010-05-15 Thread Geoff Canyon Rev
thanks, I'll give it a shot!

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Dave Cragg  wrote:
>
> On 15 May 2010, at 21:07, Dave Cragg wrote:
>
>> The use is a little complicated. You set the httpHeaders to the first line 
>> of the returned data, and lines 2 to the end is the data to post.
>
> More complicated than I remember. It doesn't return the data. Instead, you 
> pass in a variable that gets filled in. But it's explained in the link.
>
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Re: Is there a way to upload files?

2010-05-15 Thread Dave Cragg

On 15 May 2010, at 21:07, Dave Cragg wrote:

> The use is a little complicated. You set the httpHeaders to the first line of 
> the returned data, and lines 2 to the end is the data to post.

More complicated than I remember. It doesn't return the data. Instead, you pass 
in a variable that gets filled in. But it's explained in the link.

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Re: Will revCGI be made available (not just revServer)?

2010-05-15 Thread Kee Nethery
My apology to the group for the snarky email response.

When I read the response from Lyn to Richard's email I interpreted it as a 
response from RunRev on why they were no longer releasing revCGI updates. It 
appeared to me the reason that rev was not releasing updates was due to a 
concern about not being able to get the word about updates and such out to the 
community. I should have realized I was mis-reading the thread.

My mistake.


On May 14, 2010, at 6:12 PM, Michael Kann wrote:

> -- Sent last post too soon! --
> 
> Kee Nethery wrote:
> 
> I know that given the privacy concerns of our business, we cannot use the Rev 
> engine hosted on a machine that we do not control.
> 
> Kee, 
> 
> Am I missing something obvious? If you control the machine then you can put 
> the Rev engine on it. Usually the problem is the other way around. People 
> want to use a commercial server but can't get the server people to let them 
> upload the engine.
> 
> Mike 

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Re: Is there a way to upload files?

2010-05-15 Thread Dave Cragg

On 15 May 2010, at 18:56, Geoff Canyon Rev wrote:

> I wasn't implying that this would happen behind the user's back. I'm
> trying to interface to Jira. I can create a bug tracking ticket for
> the user based on input they've provided, but I don't know how
> attachments work.
> 
> I can send info using post, but are you saying I would sent the file
> contents themselves as a post argument? That's where I'm unclear.
> 
> thanks,

Geoff

You can upload a file using post by using libUrlMultipartFormData. 

The use is a little complicated. You set the httpHeaders to the first line of 
the returned data, and lines 2 to the end is the data to post.

There's an example in the Rev docs, but I think some of the text is messed up. 
(It shows html entities in some places where it shouldn't.) There's another 
example here:

http://www.lacscentre.com/liburl/liburldoc.html#libUrlMultipartFormData

Cheers
Dave


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Another DataGrid Question

2010-05-15 Thread LunchnMeets
Hi Everyone

First of all thanks to Zryip for the answer to my last grid question. Now 
that problem is solved, but I have another.

I have a dataGrid with 8 columns and 1000 rows. Knowing the data of a line 
of column 2, I need to retrieve the data of column 1 of that line. I don't 
want to change anything in the dataGrid while doing this. How is this best 
accomplished? If it helps Column 1 is titled Securities and column 2 is titled 
Symbol.

Thanks in advance for your continued assistance.

Joe in Orlando
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Re: Thoughts on Kevin's announcement

2010-05-15 Thread Richmond Mathewson

 On 15/05/2010 19:07, stephen barncard wrote:

In North America, the words *Bung* and *Bang* have very different meanings.
It's like seeing 'bloody' all over the place to a UK'er.   It bugs me every
time. I get bad visual images.

Our "Bung" is your "Bloody", buddy.

Just thought I'd remind you.



You are not reminding me; you a teaching me, because I did not
know that.

Notwithstanding; Thank you for reminding me - I shall avoid that
word in future . . .  :)

As a person who believes the 'UK' to be an illegal entity created
after our legal monarch (James VII) was expelled from the
British Isles; I jalouse at the term "UK'er". I am either a Scot,
an Anglo-Scot, or at worst British.
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News on revMobile and the iPhone

2010-05-15 Thread Terry Vogelaar
Because of my vacation, I wasn't able to respond earlier to Kevin's sad news.

Being an Apple fan, this change in Apple's license agreement is the first major 
disappointment in the company.

It has obviously nothing to do with performance like they say. If that was the 
case, they should exclude JavaScript because it's a high level, interpreted 
language. And they should ban all Obj-C/C++ code written by less experienced 
programmers...

Neither has it anything to do with being prepared for the future. I know RunRev 
as a very nimble company who adapts very fast to new trends, new OSes and new 
hardware. I don't know how RunRev does it, but apparently the architecture of 
their product(s) is so good they can adjust very quickly and they stay in the 
saddle when the industry makes crazy turns.

So I cannot think of any sane reason why Apple changed their license agreement.

It has probably to do with the Flash war against Adobe. But actually this would 
be an easy battle for Adobe to win. When ActionScript 3.0 came out, they 
reconstructed the language to be compatible with JavaScript, which they use as 
scripting language in other Creative Suite products. So all Adobe has to do is 
rename ActionScript to JavaScript...

So RunRev just seems to suffer as collateral damage in this stupid war between 
these big players. 

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revigniter - Model-View-Controller in Rev terms?

2010-05-15 Thread Ian Wood
I'm investigating Ralf's revIgniter framework (fantastic work, by the  
way), and start running into my 'narrow' experience of programming...


Model-View-Controller is a programming approach that is new to me.  
Separating presentation & data (as in most CMS-driven websites) is  
another matter.


A bit of help from Google & Wikipedia & I *think* I've got an idea how  
it works, but would like some reassurance/pointers from the list in  
translating concepts into what I know (Rev).



MVC in Rev terms would be (roughly):

View is a Stack visible to the user (or audio etc.). Everything is  
presented through this to the user.


Controller takes input from the user (mouse-clicks, typing, keystrokes  
etc.) and does the major processing? e.g. Rev handlers that handle the  
bulk of the logic in an app?


Model would then be equivalent to all the 'utility' handlers and  
libraries?



I'm aware that there may not be a one-to-one equivalency here, but is  
this along the right lines?


Thanks,

Ian
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Re: New revIgniter / irev TextMate bundles (v1.1b)

2010-05-15 Thread Ralf Bitter

Stephen,

you could do an update just by double clicking the bundles / theme,
but this mixes up the bundle menu structure.
So, it is best, though inconvenient, to replace the appropriate
files in Library/Application Support/TextMate with the files
of the downloaded revIgniterTMbundles folder.

(Need to address this in the ReadMe file. Sorry, failed to
do that.) 


Best

Ralf


On 15.05.2010, at 18:34, stephen barncard wrote:

> Ralf, what is your recommended update method if one has already installed
> RevIgniter?
> 

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Re: player object and https URL

2010-05-15 Thread Martin Koob
Martin Koob  writes:

> 
> I tried to set the filename of a player object to  the url for a movie which
>  is on an ssl protected server 
> ie https://www.mysecuresite.com/movie/mymovie.mov
> The movie does not load
> 
 
One additional thing I noticed.  If I set the filename of the player by 
script to an https url it will return "could not create movie reference"

Any ideas why this happens?

Martin


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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

2010-05-15 Thread Mark Wieder
stephen-

Saturday, May 15, 2010, 10:43:22 AM, you wrote:

> collect the line numbers on the first pass, they ya gotta count backwards if
> you delete lines, Mark. Repeat for each won't work unless the entire script
> is rebuilt.

It's not collecting line numbers, otherwise it would indeed run into
that problem. Just collecting actual text, and finding the lineoffset
in the loop.

> Do we need a  "backwards offset"??

I'd love it if the third optional parameter for the xOffset commands
could be negative, saying "start from the end" instead of from the
beginning.

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Re: Is there a way to upload files?

2010-05-15 Thread Geoff Canyon Rev
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Mark Wieder  wrote:
> Geoff-
>
> !I just started looking into doing an interface to Jira yesterday!
>
> ...and btw, Atlassian has *great* licensing if you're interested in
> professional-quality cross-platform (anywhere java runs) tools. They
> have a special $10 10-user license for all their tools, and all the
> proceeds go to fund literacy programs.
>
> http://www.atlassian.com
>
> --
> -Mark Wieder
>  mwie...@ahsoftware.net

So far I've successfully created tickets in Jira, with several fields
set. I need to figure out updating tickets as well. Then if I could
attach files I'd be done.

gc
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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

2010-05-15 Thread Mark Wieder
william-

Saturday, May 15, 2010, 11:34:49 AM, you wrote:

> Except that you have to say

> filter someVariable with "*put*" for it to work as there must be a space or
> something before the word put

If you're thinking in generic terms, you'd need to do some more work
after that. Your example would also catch and delete

send "sputter" to card "xyz"
if tWord is in "get,put,send,dispatch"
save this stack -- I put this in a comment.

Checking for "put" as the first word in the line before deleting it
would do the trick, I think.

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Search Many Docs to Return Search Results

2010-05-15 Thread Sivakatirswami
I feel like I'm about to reinvent the wheel here... and I believe I even 
posted this query once before but am having trouble finding the emails 
where some good souls responded previously


Can anyone who has created any search-many-docs scripts  post their 
library or scripts for  returning search results? or point to a stack 
online that has contains scripts that will serve?


We want to the user to enter a term... Rev will dig a number of html 
files. Not many, so, we will just read them from disk.


The search "engine" will step through the documents and return a list of 
hits. We retrieve the entire line using lineoffset and move on to the 
next instance in the same doc. Then proceed to the next file. For 
display we want to show the user about 100 chars before and after the 
term found and then post this to a search results field, where she can 
see the results, hover over the small excerpt will pop up the whole 
line-paragraph, and a click will open the document (set the html text of 
a field to the doc) and take her to that place in the document.


I have parts of the above here and there in various stacks, especially 
the last part I have some code that steps through a field and sets the 
highlight color of the search term and the user can quickly scan and see 
his term in color...  and I think I can put it together, but... I'm 
guessing many of you already have various flavors of this scenario 
already built and much better coded than I could do. so, if anyone has 
any snippets for any part of the above scenario I can put them together 
with what I have.


Thanks!

Sivakatirswami

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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

2010-05-15 Thread stephen barncard
Inside the tRev plug environment, perhaps it would be easiest for your plug
script to  'comment out' all the instances of found puts  with a special
comment that could be easily found like  "-- * put it". Otherwise you'd need
a dialog or something to do them individually unless it's a mass removal -
(which I would never trust!!)

On 15 May 2010 11:34, william humphrey  wrote:

> Thanks (I started to say Stephen but I see I should say) "everyone" -- I
> found my orphan put using
>
> put yourScript into someVariable
> filter someVariable with "put*"
> filter someVariable without "*into*"
>
> Except that you have to say
>
> filter someVariable with "*put*" for it to work as there must be a space or
> something before the word put
>
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Re: Is there a way to upload files?

2010-05-15 Thread Mark Wieder
Geoff-

Saturday, May 15, 2010, 10:56:47 AM, you wrote:

> I wasn't implying that this would happen behind the user's back. I'm
> trying to interface to Jira. I can create a bug tracking ticket for
> the user based on input they've provided, but I don't know how
> attachments work.

!I just started looking into doing an interface to Jira yesterday!

...and btw, Atlassian has *great* licensing if you're interested in
professional-quality cross-platform (anywhere java runs) tools. They
have a special $10 10-user license for all their tools, and all the
proceeds go to fund literacy programs.

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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

2010-05-15 Thread william humphrey
Thanks (I started to say Stephen but I see I should say) "everyone" -- I
found my orphan put using

put yourScript into someVariable
filter someVariable with "put*"
filter someVariable without "*into*"

Except that you have to say

filter someVariable with "*put*" for it to work as there must be a space or
something before the word put

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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

2010-05-15 Thread stephen barncard
I never said there was one.

No, Jerry in his wisdom, has left* *it up to us to develop it as an
exercise. So I'll probably do it if someone else doesn't. It's not
*that*much of a brain teaser.

On 15 May 2010 11:06, william humphrey  wrote:

> Just went to the tRev site. There are some plug-ins there (ones that put
> lists of cards, scripts etc into an email message) but no "find orphan
> puts"
> plug-in
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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

2010-05-15 Thread william humphrey
Just went to the tRev site. There are some plug-ins there (ones that put
lists of cards, scripts etc into an email message) but no "find orphan puts"
plug-in
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Re: Is there a way to upload files?

2010-05-15 Thread Geoff Canyon Rev
I wasn't implying that this would happen behind the user's back. I'm
trying to interface to Jira. I can create a bug tracking ticket for
the user based on input they've provided, but I don't know how
attachments work.

I can send info using post, but are you saying I would sent the file
contents themselves as a post argument? That's where I'm unclear.

thanks,

gc

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Jim Ault  wrote:
> On May 15, 2010, at 8:08 AM, Geoff Canyon Rev wrote:
>
>> It's easy enough to look at a web form and convert it to a set of
>> arguments to use in rev, like so:
>>
>>
>> http://www.someserver.com/someAction.jspa?type=12&summary=this+is+a+test&user=geoff.canyon&password=test
>>
>> But what if the form includes file upload? Is there a way to take a local
>> file and include it in a url to upload it to a web server?
>
> Technically it is a major security breach to have a file upload occur
> without a use interaction, such as clicking a 'submit' button.
> Otherwise a scoundrel could begin uploading from anywhere on the user's hard
> drive in a steady sequence.
>
> Assuming you are doing the form correctly with user interaction, you would
> use the POST command in Rev to send one or more variables and their values
> to a URL.
>
> The basic idea is that you build header lines to control how the server
> script will operate on your data, then append variable=value pairs to the
> single variable.
>
> in the Rev script, when all the strings have been concatenated, the text is
> sent to the URL of the server script.
> The URL triggers a script that has been programmed to read and work with
> those variables (usually with error checking).
>
> The file upload is usually stored in a temporary directory on the web server
> with a random temporary name created by the web server, then renamed
> according to the name sent by the POST command.
>
> Look in the dictionary for specific examples of code that builds the header
> lines the appends the data pairs.
>
> The GET command does the same thing, except it has a limit of about 1000
> characters.
> A server script that is well-written will check for GET variables and POST
> variables to detect which format has been set.
>
> Both methods will create an array such as
>
>>
>> http://www.someserver.com/someAction.jspa?type=12&summary=this+is+a+test&user=geoff.canyon&password=test
>
>  ( using PHP syntax for the array )
> $_GET['type']         {which holds '12'}
> $_GET['summary']  {which holds 'this+is+a+test'}
> $_GET['user']         {which holds 'geoff.canyon'}
> $_GET['password']  {which holds 'test'}
>
> sending the variables as a block to the URL
> http://www.someserver.com/someAction.jspa
> $_POST['type']         {which holds '12'}
> $_POST['summary']  {which holds 'this+is+a+test'}
> $_POST['user']         {which holds 'geoff.canyon'}
> $_POST['password']  {which holds 'test'}
>
> Obviously, if you accidentally used the same variable name twice, there
> would be data loss, just as with Rev associative arrays.
>
> Hope this helps you get the idea.
>
>
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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

2010-05-15 Thread william humphrey
I really like the idea of there being a plug-in for tRev that "finds
orphaned puts"

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 1:43 PM, stephen barncard <
stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com> wrote:

> collect the line numbers on the first pass, they ya gotta count backwards
> if
> you delete lines, Mark. Repeat for each won't work unless the entire script
> is rebuilt.
>
> Do we need a  "backwards offset"??
>
> On 15 May 2010 10:33, Mark Wieder  wrote:
>
> > Scott-
> >
> > Saturday, May 15, 2010, 9:58:47 AM, you wrote:
> >
> > > The other thing to do is to make sure the line has no "into".
> >
> > ...as in (untested, but you get the idea)
> >
> > put yourScript into someVariable
> > filter someVariable with "put*"
> > filter someVariable without "*into*"
> >
> > repeat for each line tLine in someVariable
> >  put lineOffset(tLine, yourScript) into tPos
> >  if tPos is not 0 then
> >delete line tPos of yourScript
> >  end if
> > end repeat
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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

2010-05-15 Thread stephen barncard
collect the line numbers on the first pass, they ya gotta count backwards if
you delete lines, Mark. Repeat for each won't work unless the entire script
is rebuilt.

Do we need a  "backwards offset"??

On 15 May 2010 10:33, Mark Wieder  wrote:

> Scott-
>
> Saturday, May 15, 2010, 9:58:47 AM, you wrote:
>
> > The other thing to do is to make sure the line has no "into".
>
> ...as in (untested, but you get the idea)
>
> put yourScript into someVariable
> filter someVariable with "put*"
> filter someVariable without "*into*"
>
> repeat for each line tLine in someVariable
>  put lineOffset(tLine, yourScript) into tPos
>  if tPos is not 0 then
>delete line tPos of yourScript
>  end if
> end repeat
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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

2010-05-15 Thread Mark Wieder
Scott-

Saturday, May 15, 2010, 9:58:47 AM, you wrote:

> The other thing to do is to make sure the line has no "into".

...as in (untested, but you get the idea)

put yourScript into someVariable
filter someVariable with "put*"
filter someVariable without "*into*"

repeat for each line tLine in someVariable
  put lineOffset(tLine, yourScript) into tPos
  if tPos is not 0 then
delete line tPos of yourScript
  end if
end repeat

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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

2010-05-15 Thread Jerry Daniels
Excellent ideas for tRev plugins.

Best,

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On May 15, 2010, at 11:52 AM, stephen barncard 
 wrote:

> Jerry had a function "Find Orphaned Puts" in GLX2 that would do this and
> I've been pestering him to reveal it or make a tRev plugin to use this. It
> worked well.
> 
> Very useful for this old fashioned basic "debugging tool" .
> 
> I'd make a variation - "Delete all orphaned puts" if it could be made
> foolproof.
> 
> On 15 May 2010 09:42, william humphrey  wrote:
> 
>> I'm not sure it has only two words. I will try your suggestion though. It
>> could be "put variable1 && variable2"
>> It sure teaches me to never do this again. Always explicitly call the
>> message box. I wish RunRev would remove the feature...
>> 
>> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Scott Rossi >> wrote:
>> 
>>> Try putting the script in variable, and then finding the lineOffset of
>> the
>>> line that contains "put" and has only 2 words.
>>> 
>>> Scott Rossi
>>> Creative Director
>>> Tactile Media, UX Design
>>> 
>>> On May 15, 2010, at 8:53 AM, william humphrey <
>> b...@bluewatermaritime.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Jerry
 
 I'm asking this question on the RunRev forum because I want to announce
>>> here
 how much I love tRev. Anyway how do you search for a "put" that is like
 
 "put variable"
 
 and doesn't have an "into" so it opens the message box. I realize that
>> I
 should have marked my code there or put message box because it is so
>> hard
>>> to
 find a "put" that doesn't have an "into"
 
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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

2010-05-15 Thread Jerry Daniels
William,

We did at one time in our previous editors have a Find Orphaned Put's menu 
item. tRev is me spare with its extra features, so we created a simple plugin 
architecture for all the extras you'd ever want.

Check out the posts in our site regarding plugs. You go to the site and search, 
or search the site right from tRev's Help menu.

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On May 15, 2010, at 10:53 AM, william humphrey  
wrote:

> Jerry
> 
> I'm asking this question on the RunRev forum because I want to announce here
> how much I love tRev. Anyway how do you search for a "put" that is like
> 
> "put variable"
> 
> and doesn't have an "into" so it opens the message box. I realize that I
> should have marked my code there or put message box because it is so hard to
> find a "put" that doesn't have an "into"
> 
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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

2010-05-15 Thread Jim Ault

On May 15, 2010, at 9:58 AM, Scott Rossi wrote:


The other thing to do is to make sure the line has no "into".



  or after, or before

Chipp Walters at Altuit had a utility that did this about 5 years ago.

You could use a RegEx Find in the stack to look at all the scripts.
I don't have time to do the RegEx string that would
  locate all   put
  ignore 'into'  'after'  'before'  on the same line
thus creating a short list of

--
A running detection technique could be -

   if the message box is "string I keep seeing but cannot find" then  
breakpoint


Moving this further up the processing order should be able to isolate  
it for you.





On May 15, 2010, at 9:42 AM, william humphrey > wrote:


I'm not sure it has only two words. I will try your suggestion  
though. It

could be "put variable1 && variable2"
It sure teaches me to never do this again. Always explicitly call the
message box. I wish RunRev would remove the feature...



Compatibility with Hypercard will mean this feature will likely remain  
for a long time.



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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

2010-05-15 Thread Scott Rossi
The other thing to do is to make sure the line has no "into".

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX Design

On May 15, 2010, at 9:42 AM, william humphrey  
wrote:

> I'm not sure it has only two words. I will try your suggestion though. It
> could be "put variable1 && variable2"
> It sure teaches me to never do this again. Always explicitly call the
> message box. I wish RunRev would remove the feature...
> 
> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Scott Rossi wrote:
> 
>> Try putting the script in variable, and then finding the lineOffset of the
>> line that contains "put" and has only 2 words.
>> 
>> Scott Rossi
>> Creative Director
>> Tactile Media, UX Design
>> 
>> On May 15, 2010, at 8:53 AM, william humphrey 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Jerry
>>> 
>>> I'm asking this question on the RunRev forum because I want to announce
>> here
>>> how much I love tRev. Anyway how do you search for a "put" that is like
>>> 
>>> "put variable"
>>> 
>>> and doesn't have an "into" so it opens the message box. I realize that I
>>> should have marked my code there or put message box because it is so hard
>> to
>>> find a "put" that doesn't have an "into"
>>> 
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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

2010-05-15 Thread stephen barncard
Jerry had a function "Find Orphaned Puts" in GLX2 that would do this and
I've been pestering him to reveal it or make a tRev plugin to use this. It
worked well.

Very useful for this old fashioned basic "debugging tool" .

I'd make a variation - "Delete all orphaned puts" if it could be made
foolproof.

On 15 May 2010 09:42, william humphrey  wrote:

> I'm not sure it has only two words. I will try your suggestion though. It
> could be "put variable1 && variable2"
> It sure teaches me to never do this again. Always explicitly call the
> message box. I wish RunRev would remove the feature...
>
> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Scott Rossi  >wrote:
>
> > Try putting the script in variable, and then finding the lineOffset of
> the
> > line that contains "put" and has only 2 words.
> >
> > Scott Rossi
> > Creative Director
> > Tactile Media, UX Design
> >
> > On May 15, 2010, at 8:53 AM, william humphrey <
> b...@bluewatermaritime.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Jerry
> > >
> > > I'm asking this question on the RunRev forum because I want to announce
> > here
> > > how much I love tRev. Anyway how do you search for a "put" that is like
> > >
> > > "put variable"
> > >
> > > and doesn't have an "into" so it opens the message box. I realize that
> I
> > > should have marked my code there or put message box because it is so
> hard
> > to
> > > find a "put" that doesn't have an "into"
> > >
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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

2010-05-15 Thread william humphrey
I'm not sure it has only two words. I will try your suggestion though. It
could be "put variable1 && variable2"
It sure teaches me to never do this again. Always explicitly call the
message box. I wish RunRev would remove the feature...

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Scott Rossi wrote:

> Try putting the script in variable, and then finding the lineOffset of the
> line that contains "put" and has only 2 words.
>
> Scott Rossi
> Creative Director
> Tactile Media, UX Design
>
> On May 15, 2010, at 8:53 AM, william humphrey 
> wrote:
>
> > Jerry
> >
> > I'm asking this question on the RunRev forum because I want to announce
> here
> > how much I love tRev. Anyway how do you search for a "put" that is like
> >
> > "put variable"
> >
> > and doesn't have an "into" so it opens the message box. I realize that I
> > should have marked my code there or put message box because it is so hard
> to
> > find a "put" that doesn't have an "into"
> >
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Re: New revIgniter / irev TextMate bundles (v1.1b)

2010-05-15 Thread stephen barncard
Ralf, what is your recommended update method if one has already installed
RevIgniter?

On 15 May 2010 06:50, Ralf Bitter  wrote:

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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

2010-05-15 Thread Scott Rossi
Try putting the script in variable, and then finding the lineOffset of the line 
that contains "put" and has only 2 words.

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX Design

On May 15, 2010, at 8:53 AM, william humphrey  
wrote:

> Jerry
> 
> I'm asking this question on the RunRev forum because I want to announce here
> how much I love tRev. Anyway how do you search for a "put" that is like
> 
> "put variable"
> 
> and doesn't have an "into" so it opens the message box. I realize that I
> should have marked my code there or put message box because it is so hard to
> find a "put" that doesn't have an "into"
> 
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Re: Will revCGI be made available (not just revServer)?

2010-05-15 Thread stephen barncard
But isn't it still 'shared' with other clients on the same machine?  I was
offered something like this by Dreamhost but I get such great service and
speed with a regular account, why should I bother? To get at the kernal?

On 15 May 2010 03:36, Bernard Devlin  wrote:

> Since the advent of services such as Slicehost or Linode, I'm
> surprised anyone bothers with shared hosting.  Linode costs $20 a
> month, and you get to choose from a variety of different linux
> distributions.  In my experience, the performance and support are
> amazing.
>
> Bernard
>
> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 2:05 AM, Richard Gaskin
>  wrote:
> > I don't believe it's an Apache module.  I'm not exactly sure what it is,
> but
> > when I asked if it was a module per se I was told it was not. That's a
> good
> > thing, IMO, since it would be next to impossible to install it on a
> shared
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Re: Thoughts on Kevin's announcement

2010-05-15 Thread stephen barncard
In North America, the words *Bung* and *Bang* have very different meanings.
It's like seeing 'bloody' all over the place to a UK'er.   It bugs me every
time. I get bad visual images.

Our "Bung" is your "Bloody", buddy.

Just thought I'd remind you.



On 15 May 2010 02:38, Richmond Mathewson wrote:

>
>>>
> I have been banging on about sound export for years:
>
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Location of stack

2010-05-15 Thread Paul D. DeRocco
In my program, I write the location of my stack (among other things) to a
text file on exit, and then read it and set the location on startup. This
works correctly on Windows, but on the Mac, the window moves up by 12 pixels
every time. This happens both when I run the .rev file or when I run my
standalone. I use 'the location of stack "main"' to get and set the
location. I'm using Rev 3.5. Is this a known bug?

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searching for a put that opens message box

2010-05-15 Thread william humphrey
Jerry

I'm asking this question on the RunRev forum because I want to announce here
how much I love tRev. Anyway how do you search for a "put" that is like

"put variable"

and doesn't have an "into" so it opens the message box. I realize that I
should have marked my code there or put message box because it is so hard to
find a "put" that doesn't have an "into"

Thanks
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Re: [Data Grid] get the header text color

2010-05-15 Thread Andre.Bisseret


Le 15 mai 10 à 15:14, zryip theSlug a écrit :



André


Bonjour André,

Thanks for your confirmation 8-)

Get the properties "text color" and "header text color" seems totally
unsupported also in the rev's property palette (colors and patterns
tab).
Just try to set a color for the two color boxes, then go in another
tab and go back to the colors and patterns tab. The two boxes should
be empty again.


Yes, the 2 boxes resume their empty state but the texts (header or  
list) in the data grid are keeping the chosen colors; bizarre  :-o))



I wrote possible solutions for get a value:
- For the text color:
return the textColor of group "dgList" of tMyDataGrid

- For the header text color:
return the textColor of group "dgHeader" of tMyDataGrid


Nice idea! I did not know these possibilities,  mostly "dgList" which  
can't be found in the docs


Using the message box I tried :
set the dgProp["header text color"] of grp "datagrid" to "red"
put the textColor of grp "dgheader" of grp "dataGrid"  >>  get "255,0,0"

By the way, quite funny thing:
the color of the characters we are perceiving "black" (header or  
list), actually is either empty or "black"

(in an ordinary field also anyway!)
Actually if I do:
set the dgProp["text color"] of grp "datagrid" to "black"
put the textColor of grp "dgList" of grp "dataGrid"
I get "0,0,0"
But, with an ordinary field, if I do :
set the textColor of fld "tFld" to black
put the textColor of fld "tFld"
I get "black"

So data grid confirms that "Black" is lack of color
but ordinary field claims that black is a color

;-o)))

André



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Re: Is there a way to upload files?

2010-05-15 Thread Jim Ault

On May 15, 2010, at 8:08 AM, Geoff Canyon Rev wrote:


It's easy enough to look at a web form and convert it to a set of
arguments to use in rev, like so:

http://www.someserver.com/someAction.jspa?type=12&summary=this+is+a+test&user=geoff.canyon&password=test

But what if the form includes file upload? Is there a way to take a  
local file and include it in a url to upload it to a web server?


Technically it is a major security breach to have a file upload occur  
without a use interaction, such as clicking a 'submit' button.
Otherwise a scoundrel could begin uploading from anywhere on the  
user's hard drive in a steady sequence.


Assuming you are doing the form correctly with user interaction, you  
would use the POST command in Rev to send one or more variables and  
their values to a URL.


The basic idea is that you build header lines to control how the  
server script will operate on your data, then append variable=value  
pairs to the single variable.


in the Rev script, when all the strings have been concatenated, the  
text is sent to the URL of the server script.
The URL triggers a script that has been programmed to read and work  
with those variables (usually with error checking).


The file upload is usually stored in a temporary directory on the web  
server with a random temporary name created by the web server, then  
renamed according to the name sent by the POST command.


Look in the dictionary for specific examples of code that builds the  
header lines the appends the data pairs.


The GET command does the same thing, except it has a limit of about  
1000 characters.
A server script that is well-written will check for GET variables and  
POST variables to detect which format has been set.


Both methods will create an array such as


http://www.someserver.com/someAction.jspa?type=12&summary=this+is+a+test&user=geoff.canyon&password=test

 ( using PHP syntax for the array )
$_GET['type'] {which holds '12'}
$_GET['summary']  {which holds 'this+is+a+test'}
$_GET['user'] {which holds 'geoff.canyon'}
$_GET['password']  {which holds 'test'}

sending the variables as a block to the URL   
http://www.someserver.com/someAction.jspa
$_POST['type'] {which holds '12'}
$_POST['summary']  {which holds 'this+is+a+test'}
$_POST['user'] {which holds 'geoff.canyon'}
$_POST['password']  {which holds 'test'}

Obviously, if you accidentally used the same variable name twice,  
there would be data loss, just as with Rev associative arrays.


Hope this helps you get the idea.


Jim Ault
Las Vegas



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Is there a way to upload files?

2010-05-15 Thread Geoff Canyon Rev
It's easy enough to look at a web form and convert it to a set of
arguments to use in rev, like so:

http://www.someserver.com/someAction.jspa?type=12&summary=this+is+a+test&user=geoff.canyon&password=test

But what if the form includes file upload? Is there a way to take a
local file and include it in a url to upload it to a web server?
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player object and https URL

2010-05-15 Thread Martin Koob
I tried to set the filename of a player object to  the url for a movie which
 is on an ssl protected server 
ie https://www.mysecuresite.com/movie/mymovie.mov
The movie does not load

If I put open the same URL in a revbrowser window it works
ie.

put revBrowserOpen(the windowID of this stack, \
"https://www.mysecuresite.com/movie/mymovie.mov";) into tBrowserId

If I set the filename of an image object to an image on an ssl protected
 server it works
ie.  https://www.mysecuresite.com/movie/myimage.png

So it seems that the player object is having problems with the https url.  

Is there something else I need to do or is this a bug.  I searched the 
Rev Quality Control Center and I can't find a mention of this as a bug.

Martin Koob

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New revIgniter / irev TextMate bundles (v1.1b)

2010-05-15 Thread Ralf Bitter

Complemented the revIgniter / irev TextMate bundles
according to the latest revIgniter additions.

Get the latest version of TextMate bundles
for revIgniter here:

http://revigniter.com/accessory


Best

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Re: [Data Grid] get the header text color

2010-05-15 Thread zryip theSlug
2010/5/15 Andre.Bisseret :
> Le 14 mai 10 à 17:40, zryip theSlug a écrit :
>
>> Hi Trevor and All,
>>
>>
>> I checked the doc:
>>
>> header text color
>> The text color to apply to the header area of a table. Prefix property
>> name with "effective" to get the color being used when this property
>> is set to empty.
>>
>> However when I try to get the "header text color" or the "effective
>> header text color" property, I obtain empty.
>>
>> I checked in the DataGrid Library code, and not found any entry for
>> this property in the getProps handler.
>>
>> I'm wrong?
>
> Le 15 mai 10 à 01:05, zryip theSlug a écrit :
>
>> 2010/5/14 zryip theSlug :
>>
>> It seems same for the "Text color" property.
>
>
> Bonjour theSlug,
>
> No help, just to confirm.
>
>  My trials (using message box):
>
> put the dgProp["header text color"] of grp "dataGrid" >> empty
> put the dgProp["effective header text color"] of grp "dataGrid" >> empty
>
> set the dgProp["header text color"] of grp "dataGrid" to "red" >> works: the
> headers text is in red
>
> BUT, having the headers in red :
> put the dgProp["header text color"] of grp "dataGrid" >> empty
> put the dgProp["effective header text color"] of grp "dataGrid" >> empty
>
> idem with "text color" property.
>
> So seems that as  the "header text color" and the "text color" properties
> are concerned:
>  one can set  them
> but not put (or get) them.
>
>
> Le 14 mai 10 à 19:48, zryip theSlug a écrit :
>
>> Hi again,
>>
>> It seems that there is no way to set the "(effective) dimmed hilite
>> color" property of a Data Grid.
>> I checked the setProp handler of the Data Grid library and found
>> nothing to set this property. Plus the getProp of this property seems
>> to return always the kDefaultDimmedHiliteColor constant.
>>
>> I'm wrong?
>
>
>
> With
> put the dgProp["effective dimmed hilite color"] of grp "datagrid"
> I get "212,212,212"
>
> when I try :
> set the dgProp["dimmed hilite color"] of grp "datagrid" (or with prefix
> "effective")
> I get --invalid property 'effective dimmed hilite color'--
> or --invalid property dimmed hilite color'
>
> Best regards from Grenoble (sad grey weather for quite a too long time now!)
>
> André

Bonjour André,

Thanks for your confirmation 8-)

Get the properties "text color" and "header text color" seems totally
unsupported also in the rev's property palette (colors and patterns
tab).
Just try to set a color for the two color boxes, then go in another
tab and go back to the colors and patterns tab. The two boxes should
be empty again.


I wrote possible solutions for get a value:
- For the text color:
return the textColor of group "dgList" of tMyDataGrid

- For the header text color:
return the textColor of group "dgHeader" of tMyDataGrid


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Re: Nice OSX tip: creating an image with a desktop snapshot without scripting

2010-05-15 Thread Robert Mann

there is a nice way too,  using "apercu" the preview thingy..  instead of
capture. 

In the file menu you find these options (capture : selection/window) Il like
to see the result right away  in a preview window... and can then cut and
paste...

also you can make several copies and deal with them afterwards.. have a good
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Re: Tip 2: screen shot capture from iPhone

2010-05-15 Thread Colin Holgate

On May 15, 2010, at 7:21 AM, David Bovill wrote:

> To take a screen shot, hold down the home button and then push the top
> button. 

Hold the home button and then briefly press and release the top button. If you 
hold the home button and press the top button until you see a screen shot being 
taken, it won't happen. Instead it will hard reset the phone.



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Re: Nice OSX tip: creating an image with a desktop snapshot without scripting

2010-05-15 Thread Colin Holgate

On May 15, 2010, at 5:52 AM, Jim Sims wrote:

> 
> Command-SHIFT-4-Space Bar captures the window under the cursor.

That can be described better as: Command-Shift-4 gives you the usual caption 
selection to a file, and Control-Command-Shift-4 gives you the usual capture to 
clipboard, but if instead of dragging the mouse to make a selection, you press 
the space bar and then move the mouse over the various open windows, you can 
click to capture the one that is highlighted. It also grabs all of the window, 
not just the parts that are sticking out from under other windows.

With all of these screen grabs that are not immediate you can press the escape 
key to cancel the grabbing.



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Re: Replace rgb1 with rbg2

2010-05-15 Thread JosepM

Thanks for the scripts Wilhelm, it's exactly that I looking for :)


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Re: [Data Grid] get the header text color

2010-05-15 Thread Andre.Bisseret

Le 14 mai 10 à 17:40, zryip theSlug a écrit :


Hi Trevor and All,


I checked the doc:

header text color
The text color to apply to the header area of a table. Prefix property
name with "effective" to get the color being used when this property
is set to empty.

However when I try to get the "header text color" or the "effective
header text color" property, I obtain empty.

I checked in the DataGrid Library code, and not found any entry for
this property in the getProps handler.

I'm wrong?


Le 15 mai 10 à 01:05, zryip theSlug a écrit :


2010/5/14 zryip theSlug :

It seems same for the "Text color" property.



Bonjour theSlug,

No help, just to confirm.

 My trials (using message box):

put the dgProp["header text color"] of grp "dataGrid" >> empty
put the dgProp["effective header text color"] of grp "dataGrid" >> empty

set the dgProp["header text color"] of grp "dataGrid" to "red" >>  
works: the headers text is in red


BUT, having the headers in red :
put the dgProp["header text color"] of grp "dataGrid" >> empty
put the dgProp["effective header text color"] of grp "dataGrid" >> empty

idem with "text color" property.

So seems that as  the "header text color" and the "text color"  
properties are concerned:

 one can set  them
but not put (or get) them.


Le 14 mai 10 à 19:48, zryip theSlug a écrit :


Hi again,

It seems that there is no way to set the "(effective) dimmed hilite
color" property of a Data Grid.
I checked the setProp handler of the Data Grid library and found
nothing to set this property. Plus the getProp of this property seems
to return always the kDefaultDimmedHiliteColor constant.

I'm wrong?




With
put the dgProp["effective dimmed hilite color"] of grp "datagrid"
I get "212,212,212"

when I try :
set the dgProp["dimmed hilite color"] of grp "datagrid" (or with  
prefix "effective")

I get --invalid property 'effective dimmed hilite color'--
or --invalid property dimmed hilite color'

Best regards from Grenoble (sad grey weather for quite a too long time  
now!)


André



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Re: Will revCGI be made available (not just revServer)?

2010-05-15 Thread David Bovill
Thanks for the pointer Bernard - any idea how that would compare with
DreamHosts private servers? I certainly like the fact that you have
datacentres in different continents with Linode!

On 15 May 2010 11:36, Bernard Devlin  wrote:

> Since the advent of services such as Slicehost or Linode, I'm
> surprised anyone bothers with shared hosting.  Linode costs $20 a
> month, and you get to choose from a variety of different linux
> distributions.  In my experience, the performance and support are
> amazing.
>
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Tip 2: screen shot capture from iPhone

2010-05-15 Thread David Bovill
To take a screen shot, hold down the home button and then push the top
button. The screen will flash and the resulting image will be placed on your
camera roll.
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Re: Will revCGI be made available (not just revServer)?

2010-05-15 Thread Bernard Devlin
Since the advent of services such as Slicehost or Linode, I'm
surprised anyone bothers with shared hosting.  Linode costs $20 a
month, and you get to choose from a variety of different linux
distributions.  In my experience, the performance and support are
amazing.

Bernard

On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 2:05 AM, Richard Gaskin
 wrote:
> I don't believe it's an Apache module.  I'm not exactly sure what it is, but
> when I asked if it was a module per se I was told it was not. That's a good
> thing, IMO, since it would be next to impossible to install it on a shared
> host if it were.
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Re: Nice OSX tip: creating an image with a desktop snapshot without scripting

2010-05-15 Thread Jim Sims
Oops...


Command-SHIFT-4-Space Bar captures the window under the cursor.

sims
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Re: Nice OSX tip: creating an image with a desktop snapshot without scripting

2010-05-15 Thread Jim Sims

On May 15, 2010, at 10:37 AM, David Bovill wrote:

> Perhaps the coolest, most-secret hidden capture shortcut is
> Control-Command-Shift-3 (or 4), 



Control-Command-4-Space Bar captures the window under the cursor.

sims

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Re: Thoughts on Kevin's announcement

2010-05-15 Thread Richmond Mathewson

 On 15/05/2010 12:32, René Micout wrote:

I agree !
+ music (Midi ?) functions

Le 14 mai 2010 à 00:16, Robert Mann a écrit :


I would prefer that a minimal audio/video library be made, like the datagrid
enhancement of last year (simple fade in and out, cross fademix, minimal
reverb, tone correction and normalization) and possibility to ouput a
compressed quicktime format. It is important to be able to produce good
quality audio/video by program too since runrev claims to be a media
platform.


I have been banging on about sound export for years:

http://forums.runrev.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5164
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Re: Thoughts on Kevin's announcement

2010-05-15 Thread René Micout
I agree !
+ music (Midi ?) functions

Le 14 mai 2010 à 00:16, Robert Mann a écrit :

> I would prefer that a minimal audio/video library be made, like the datagrid
> enhancement of last year (simple fade in and out, cross fademix, minimal
> reverb, tone correction and normalization) and possibility to ouput a
> compressed quicktime format. It is important to be able to produce good
> quality audio/video by program too since runrev claims to be a media
> platform.

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Re: Resize stack ...

2010-05-15 Thread Andre.Bisseret


Le 14 mai 10 à 12:25, Jean-Pierre Soto a écrit :


Hello,

is there a way for user to resize stack when the decoration of this  
stack is set to empty.


Jean-Pierre


Bonjour Jean-Pierre,

On the site So Smart Software
http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/?r=revolution_didacticiels&l=en
 you can download a tutorial:
#017 How to manage resizing (from Éric Chatonet)

In the tab menu of this tutorial choose "Tips and Tricks" and there  
you will find a "scripted Resizer"
On this little stack the button in the bottom right corner is a  
customized one.


HTH

Best regards from Grenoble

André



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Triage

2010-05-15 Thread Peter Alcibiades
From issue 92 of the newsletter:

> What about Linux support?

> We will be looking at improving support for Linux in various areas,
> including bringing the web-plugin to Linux for the first time.

-- What to do first:

Size adjustments on IDE, stop editor crashing on cut and paste, fix font 
handling and printing, make multiple desktops work.

-- What to do second:

Rev Browser, the browser plugins.

-- What to do when you can get to it:

Anything that can be done in the shell, just supply recipes in the user 
guide.  Speech.

We live in hope!

Peter
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Re: Nice OSX tip: creating an image with a desktop snapshot without scripting

2010-05-15 Thread Richmond Mathewson

 On 15/05/2010 11:37, David Bovill wrote:

Perhaps the coolest, most-secret hidden capture shortcut is
Control-Command-Shift-3 (or 4), which, instead of creating a file on your
desktop, copies the capture into your Clipboard memory, so you can paste it
where you want.

1. Press Control-Command-Shift-3 (or 4) from any application
2. Switch to Revolution and in the stack you want the image - just paste!

It's all about that control key :)
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Nice OSX tip: creating an image with a desktop snapshot without scripting

2010-05-15 Thread David Bovill
Perhaps the coolest, most-secret hidden capture shortcut is
Control-Command-Shift-3 (or 4), which, instead of creating a file on your
desktop, copies the capture into your Clipboard memory, so you can paste it
where you want.

   1. Press Control-Command-Shift-3 (or 4) from any application
   2. Switch to Revolution and in the stack you want the image - just paste!

It's all about that control key :)
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