Re: revBrowser + youtube.com = Crashing?
Recently, Alejandro Tejada wrote: > Do you remember that Jiro Harada > developed an external to display > Flash movies in Rev? > > http://www.mail-archive.com/use-revolution@lists.runrev.com/msg129989.html > > Did you know if his application is > affected by recent Flash update? For the most part, Flash runs OK in revBrowser (some interaction issues not withstanding). The rev dev folks believe there may be some issue that occurs in the combination latest version of Flash + revBrowser on Windows + localization, which was only apparent through a front page ad on YouTube.com. Flash on other sites works OK. I assume since F-ab is an app, not running in a browser (IE), it is not affected. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Sarah Reichelt's XML sample stack
Hi Simon, there is a lot of material online although it can take awhile to find. I've compiled some of the most interesting looking links below (if anyone knows of others sites please let me know). Keep in mind that the BYU course material is all online, so you don't have to signup or register for anything on that site. Also, I think Sarah Reichelt's blog is listed here (its identified only by the first name). I've not tried all of these so can't vouch for them, but they are my intended starting points. If you have the stamina to work through this you'll be a Rev guru by the end. Good luck. http://www.runrev.com/developers/lessons-and-tutorials/tutorials/online-scripting-conferences/ http://www.aslugontheroad.co.cc/index.php?option=com_weblinks&view=category&id=36%3Ahow-to-script&Itemid=61 http://www.tactilemedia.com/index.html?http%3A//www.tactilemedia.com/site_files/software/tutorials.html%3Fhttp%253A//www.tactilemedia.com/site_files/software/tutorial_thumbs.html http://sarahrev.blogspot.com/ http://revolution.byu.edu./ http://www.runrev.com/developers/ http://runrevplanet.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=section&layout=blog&id=7&Itemid=65&limitstart=8 http://runrevplanet.com/index.php?searchword=tip+1&ordering=&searchphrase=all&Itemid=1&option=com_search -- Mark From: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Simon Lord [sl...@karbonized.com] Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 9:36 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Sarah Reichelt's XML sample stack Is Sarah still around? I searched the archives for an XML sample stack to get my feet wet but her sample seems to be missing from her site (I can't find it to save my life). I also found 1 revonline lesson but would like a few *starter* stacks to review as well. Thanks. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Sarah Reichelt's XML sample stack
Is Sarah still around? I searched the archives for an XML sample stack to get my feet wet but her sample seems to be missing from her site (I can't find it to save my life). I also found 1 revonline lesson but would like a few *starter* stacks to review as well. Thanks. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Question about Native Geometry
> Rev on Linux has become pretty much unusable after buying a bigger screen > with higher resolution, since unless you change the monitor to a lower > resolution every time Rev starts up, the IDE is unreadably small. > > Is it possible to use Native Geometry to fix this? Hello Peter, Out of curiosity, what size monitor and resolution? I have a 20' wide screen that I'm using to run the latest edition of Ubuntu on and the Rev IDE is very easy on these tired old eyes in this setup. Of course, the on-board video card is maxed out at 1600 x 900 and I'd like to take it up a couple of notches in fact. I'm just guessing that you are running well past my setup... Best regards, David C. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revBrowser + youtube.com = Crashing?
Hi Scott, Do you remember that Jiro Harada developed an external to display Flash movies in Rev? http://www.mail-archive.com/use-revolution@lists.runrev.com/msg129989.html Did you know if his application is affected by recent Flash update? Al -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/revBrowser-youtube-com-Crashing-tp2263932p2269136.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Question about Native Geometry
Rev on Linux has become pretty much unusable after buying a bigger screen with higher resolution, since unless you change the monitor to a lower resolution every time Rev starts up, the IDE is unreadably small. Is it possible to use Native Geometry to fix this? Peter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revBrowser madness
Isn't Idle just another system message? Why would that be processed and not the others? I think that the RevBrowser actually generates an idle message in order to allow for just this sort of thing. But I am just guessing here. Bob On Jun 25, 2010, at 11:19 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > Bob Sneidar wrote: >> Ba-BINK! You probably stumbled upon what the whole issue is with a >> slew of RevBrowser problems people are having. Hey Revolution Guys! >> Are you reading all this? > > Probably not, the engineers read the Improve list but rarely get time to come > over here. > > What it sounds like to me is that this kind of "problem" is just a > side-effect of running an external that can interact only with its own > window. An idle handler would force a sliver of time to be devoted to the > engine in the background. As soon as it gets a chance, all the backlogged > system messages are sent. This would be similar to using "wait x seconds with > messages" -- using "with messages" gives a time slice to the engine to do its > cleanup work, and without that the handler is blocking. Ditto for the > external. As long as the mouse is inside revbrowser, the card underneath gets > no time slice for maintenance. > > Just my theory, but if it's true, it isn't a bug per se, it's just how things > work and developers would need to accomodate it. Using idle is a pretty > clever workaround. > > -- > Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com > HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Line Numbers in Text Editor
The straightforward answer is using formattedText . but the deeper question is what line numbering you want for the lines when there is line-wrapping happening. For instance, if it is something like a source code editor, then the line numbers (IMHO) should be independent of the size of window currenty in use. For example, if I have the following text 1 My first line 2 this is a very long line of text that is going to be wrapped in a moment when I make the window narrow. 3 third line. Then when the window becomes narrow, do I *want* 1 My first line 2 this is a very long line of text that is going to be wrapped 3 in a moment when I make the window narrow. 4 third line. or do I want something like 1 My first line 2 this is a very long line of text that is going to be wrapped 2a in a moment when I make the window narrow. 3 third line. It really depends on whether you are numbering the lines of the window or the lines of the underlying text (or source code, or whatever); quite often, I suspect, it should be the latter. And in that case I don't know of any quick or easy way to figure out how the numbering should be done :-( -- Alex. On 25/06/2010 08:25, Justin Sloan wrote: I went with using a parallel field to add line numbers and it is working well. However, rev only counts the line numbers based on the delimeter. So if word warp is turned on you end up with more lines then there are actual line numbers. Does anyone know of a way to count all the lines, even the lines that are wrapped and not separated by the delimeter? - Justin On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Jeff Massung wrote: I used a parallel field in my Cryogen editor (http://massj.tumblr.com for video + screenshot). Worked out perfectly, and now that I've done it that way once, I actually wouldn't want to do it any other way in the future. Jeff M. On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 6:01 AM, Justin Sloanwrote: I am planning to implement line numbers in a proprietary text editor that I wrote for in-house use. Problem is, I don't know how I am going to implement it. I thought about using a parallel text field, but there has to be an easier way. Any of you genius devs have any ideas? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Optimized print code for OSX
I have the following script that I am using to print a card. I have incorporated some scripts to hide buttons and some edit boxes and to show label fields instead of edit boxes. The code seems slow in executing when I click on Preview in the OSX print dialog. Aside from using the printing off the card technique, is there anyway that this code can be optimized? Here is my code: if the platform is "macos" then select empty set the printPaperOrientation to "portrait" set the printmargins to 36,108,36,72 set the printScale to .8738 open printing with dialog as sheet if the result = "cancel" then exit to top > This cancels printing if the user selects Cancel in print dialog hideStuff set the backgroundColor of this stack to 255,255,255 set the hiliteColor of this stack to 255,255,255 select empty print card id 1060 close printing set the hiliteColor of this stack to 126,188,237 set the backgroundColor of this stack to 237,239,217 set the backgroundcolor of this stack to empty showStuff unlock screen end if -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Optimized-print-code-for-OSX-tp2268942p2268942.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Uncomfirmed crash report (was Re: [OT] Computer news from Kassel)
Ben Rubinstein wrote: (I also know that some bugs have been fixed although the entry in Bugzilla hasn't been addressed. That may be because the bug was found independantly either by RR directly or because of a duplicate report, and it's just annoying that they've never noticed my report; or it may be that someone read my report, fixed the bug, but for some reason didn't follow the process to resolve it.) That happens more than we'd like, actually. They fix stuff and then forget to update the database. Or they fix stuff they didn't know was in the database. I suppose we could complain about engineers who don't keep up with paperwork, but you know how that goes. I'm kind of like that myself. Thanks for a thoughtful post on writing effective bug reports. You made some good points. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revBrowser madness
Bob Sneidar wrote: Ba-BINK! You probably stumbled upon what the whole issue is with a slew of RevBrowser problems people are having. Hey Revolution Guys! Are you reading all this? Probably not, the engineers read the Improve list but rarely get time to come over here. What it sounds like to me is that this kind of "problem" is just a side-effect of running an external that can interact only with its own window. An idle handler would force a sliver of time to be devoted to the engine in the background. As soon as it gets a chance, all the backlogged system messages are sent. This would be similar to using "wait x seconds with messages" -- using "with messages" gives a time slice to the engine to do its cleanup work, and without that the handler is blocking. Ditto for the external. As long as the mouse is inside revbrowser, the card underneath gets no time slice for maintenance. Just my theory, but if it's true, it isn't a bug per se, it's just how things work and developers would need to accomodate it. Using idle is a pretty clever workaround. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Uncomfirmed crash report (was Re: [OT] Computer news from Kassel)
On 25/06/2010 17:36, Wilhelm Sanke wrote:
One thought that led me to put together a more comprehensive report is
the assumption that at least some of the listed bugs are somehow related
to each other.
You can always create five separate reports, and then create a sixth one
suggesting that there are a nest of issues relating to groups, giving the id
of each. (Bugzilla is designed to support this kind of usage: if you refer to
"bug nnn" or "bug #nnn" in the text of the description or a comment it is
automatically recognised, and made into a link to the other bug report, with a
tool-tip giving the bug status and title.)
And, if someone finds out that "you can crash Rev with
only four lines of script" this should definitely arouse the attention
of the responsible members of the Rev team, irrespective whether the bug
report is multi-faceted or concentrated on one single sub-point. The Rev
team should be competent enough to deal with a number of related
troubles at the same time, or deal with them step by step. I believe
that they are basically capable to handle also complicated issues, they
are not first-graders in computer science.
But they are busy people, who have to choose where to put their time. I took
some time to work through the bug, which is actually called "Groups: Bugs and
features ("last group" broken)?". It refers to a way of crashing Rev, but
doesn't give enough information. I tried, yesterday, to reproduce the bug
using the script fragment in the bug report, but without success. However,
that may be because I didn't know the definition of 'pre-PNG'. Perhaps I would
have discovered that by following the clue of "my recent post to this list",
but that was more time than I had. I tried with a PNG, and it didn't crash.
Again, I share your frustration that reports can be left 'unconfirmed' (and
for much longer than a year - my oldest 'unconfirmed' bug report is more than
three years old, my oldest unconfirmed enhancement request more than six years
old! (and I still want it)).
But that's not to say that those guys aren't working. Of the reports I've
opened in Bugzilla over the years, 155 of them have been resolved - some as
duplicate, can't resolve, or not a bug, but the vast majority as fixed. That
leaves 34 unconfirmed, and 24 in the limbo state between unconfirmed and
resolved. That's not a great result: I'd much prefer things at least came off
the 'unconfirmed' list faster, even if they were then consigned to a black
hole of low priority; but it's not awful.
(I also know that some bugs have been fixed although the entry in Bugzilla
hasn't been addressed. That may be because the bug was found independantly
either by RR directly or because of a duplicate report, and it's just annoying
that they've never noticed my report; or it may be that someone read my
report, fixed the bug, but for some reason didn't follow the process to
resolve it.)
If you think that RR should be aware of this crashing bug, you would do them a
big favour by opening a report with the title you mention, with severity
'critical' or 'blocker' (if the latter can be justified), with the version
4.5.0 dp3 (having verified that the bug is still reproducible in the latest
version), and with _all the information that RR need to reproduce the bug in
one place_ (and as little other information to obscure that as possible). If
there's a particularly variety of PNG that is involved, please include all the
details needed to understand that in the bug report (as well as attaching a
sample image to the report).
Ben
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Re: revBrowser + youtube.com = Crashing?
My mistake, didn't reinstall the most recent version of flash. It still breaks, however, someone noted that they don't have the option to "close" the add at the top in internet exploder, when I didn't have the most recent flash installed, neither did I. As soon as 10.1.53.64 is installed again, that option to close the add re-appears, as does the crash. On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Mike Bonner wrote: > ok, did a complete uninstall of flash, restart, reinstall of flash > 10.1 and now its working without a hitch. Found a place in > labs.adobe.com that said this > "Internet Explorer users with RC6 or older installed should uninstall > Flash Player before updating to the GM version." > source: http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/ > Not sure this relates, but more information is usually a good thing. > > On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Mike Bonner wrote: >> This works for me too, toggle the add closed, *IE 8* start up >> revbrowser, works dandy. Toggle the add back open from within >> revbrowser and.. boom. >> >> On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Heather Nagey wrote: >>> Thanks for testing that, most helpful! We don't know what the fix will be >>> yet, but just figuring out the cause goes a long way towards being able to >>> find a fix! It's extremely difficult to fix something without knowing the >>> cause :) >>> >>> cheers >>> >>> Heather >>> >>> On 25 Jun 2010, at 17:34, roger.e.el...@sealedair.com wrote: >>> On 06/25/2010 at 12:14 PM, Heather Nagey wrote: > > Oh, he's not the only one who cannot make this crash. The team here at > RR have been trying to crash this for several days on a variety of > setups with different versions of Flash without any "success" at all. > > We have a new theory, maybe you folks can try this out for us. Maybe > it is the localized advertising on youtube that is the difference. > Perhaps US ads crash and UK ads don't? > > You can turn off youtube ads in Internet Explorer by clicking the > 'Close Ad' button in top right of the youtube screen. Then shutdown > IE and > load up RevBrowser. Does it still crash? > > Crossing fingers that the answer is no :) > > Cheers > > Heather That worked for me Heather (WinXp, IE6). But what will be done to revBrowser so the end-user doesn't have to workaround whatever is actually causing this? ~Roger Eller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >>> >>> Heather Nagey >>> Customer Services Manager >>> http://www.runrev.com/ >>> RunRev - Software construction for everyone >>> follow me on twitter >>> http://www.twitter.com/lainopik >>> >>> ___ >>> use-revolution mailing list >>> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription >>> preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >>> >> > ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revBrowser + youtube.com = Crashing?
Bob Sneidar wrote: Imagine if all this were happening on an iPhone/iPad. Everyone would be all over Apple for their "inherently unstable device". ;-) Maybe that's the answer: try holding the device differently. ;) -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revBrowser + youtube.com = Crashing?
Imagine if all this were happening on an iPhone/iPad. Everyone would be all over Apple for their "inherently unstable device". ;-) Bob On Jun 25, 2010, at 9:46 AM, Heather Nagey wrote: > Thanks for testing that, most helpful! We don't know what the fix will be > yet, but just figuring out the cause goes a long way towards being able to > find a fix! It's extremely difficult to fix something without knowing the > cause :) > > cheers > > Heather > > On 25 Jun 2010, at 17:34, roger.e.el...@sealedair.com wrote: > >> On 06/25/2010 at 12:14 PM, Heather Nagey wrote: >>> Oh, he's not the only one who cannot make this crash. The team here at >>> RR have been trying to crash this for several days on a variety of >>> setups with different versions of Flash without any "success" at all. >>> >>> We have a new theory, maybe you folks can try this out for us. Maybe >>> it is the localized advertising on youtube that is the difference. >>> Perhaps US ads crash and UK ads don't? >>> >>> You can turn off youtube ads in Internet Explorer by clicking the >>> 'Close Ad' button in top right of the youtube screen. Then shutdown >>> IE and >>> load up RevBrowser. Does it still crash? >>> >>> Crossing fingers that the answer is no :) >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Heather >> >> That worked for me Heather (WinXp, IE6). But what will be done to >> revBrowser so the end-user doesn't have to workaround whatever is actually >> causing this? >> >> ~Roger Eller >> >> >> ___ >> use-revolution mailing list >> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription >> preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > Heather Nagey > Customer Services Manager > http://www.runrev.com/ > RunRev - Software construction for everyone > follow me on twitter > http://www.twitter.com/lainopik > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revBrowser + youtube.com = Crashing?
ok, did a complete uninstall of flash, restart, reinstall of flash 10.1 and now its working without a hitch. Found a place in labs.adobe.com that said this "Internet Explorer users with RC6 or older installed should uninstall Flash Player before updating to the GM version." source: http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/ Not sure this relates, but more information is usually a good thing. On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Mike Bonner wrote: > This works for me too, toggle the add closed, *IE 8* start up > revbrowser, works dandy. Toggle the add back open from within > revbrowser and.. boom. > > On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Heather Nagey wrote: >> Thanks for testing that, most helpful! We don't know what the fix will be >> yet, but just figuring out the cause goes a long way towards being able to >> find a fix! It's extremely difficult to fix something without knowing the >> cause :) >> >> cheers >> >> Heather >> >> On 25 Jun 2010, at 17:34, roger.e.el...@sealedair.com wrote: >> >>> On 06/25/2010 at 12:14 PM, Heather Nagey wrote: Oh, he's not the only one who cannot make this crash. The team here at RR have been trying to crash this for several days on a variety of setups with different versions of Flash without any "success" at all. We have a new theory, maybe you folks can try this out for us. Maybe it is the localized advertising on youtube that is the difference. Perhaps US ads crash and UK ads don't? You can turn off youtube ads in Internet Explorer by clicking the 'Close Ad' button in top right of the youtube screen. Then shutdown IE and load up RevBrowser. Does it still crash? Crossing fingers that the answer is no :) Cheers Heather >>> >>> That worked for me Heather (WinXp, IE6). But what will be done to >>> revBrowser so the end-user doesn't have to workaround whatever is actually >>> causing this? >>> >>> ~Roger Eller >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> use-revolution mailing list >>> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>> subscription preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >> >> Heather Nagey >> Customer Services Manager >> http://www.runrev.com/ >> RunRev - Software construction for everyone >> follow me on twitter >> http://www.twitter.com/lainopik >> >> ___ >> use-revolution mailing list >> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription >> preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >> > ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revBrowser + youtube.com = Crashing?
This works for me too, toggle the add closed, *IE 8* start up revbrowser, works dandy. Toggle the add back open from within revbrowser and.. boom. On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Heather Nagey wrote: > Thanks for testing that, most helpful! We don't know what the fix will be > yet, but just figuring out the cause goes a long way towards being able to > find a fix! It's extremely difficult to fix something without knowing the > cause :) > > cheers > > Heather > > On 25 Jun 2010, at 17:34, roger.e.el...@sealedair.com wrote: > >> On 06/25/2010 at 12:14 PM, Heather Nagey wrote: >>> >>> Oh, he's not the only one who cannot make this crash. The team here at >>> RR have been trying to crash this for several days on a variety of >>> setups with different versions of Flash without any "success" at all. >>> >>> We have a new theory, maybe you folks can try this out for us. Maybe >>> it is the localized advertising on youtube that is the difference. >>> Perhaps US ads crash and UK ads don't? >>> >>> You can turn off youtube ads in Internet Explorer by clicking the >>> 'Close Ad' button in top right of the youtube screen. Then shutdown >>> IE and >>> load up RevBrowser. Does it still crash? >>> >>> Crossing fingers that the answer is no :) >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Heather >> >> That worked for me Heather (WinXp, IE6). But what will be done to >> revBrowser so the end-user doesn't have to workaround whatever is actually >> causing this? >> >> ~Roger Eller >> >> >> ___ >> use-revolution mailing list >> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > Heather Nagey > Customer Services Manager > http://www.runrev.com/ > RunRev - Software construction for everyone > follow me on twitter > http://www.twitter.com/lainopik > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revBrowser madness
Simon, Since I had my card and stack script for Rodeo open in tRev, I just dragged the idle handler from my card handler list over to my stack tab and then placed it in my events folder in my list of stack handlers. Wow. I would buy tRev if my wife would let me. Best, Jerry Daniels Use tRev's buy link during your 7 day free trial to get 20% off: http://reveditor.com/tag/shouldiswitch On Jun 25, 2010, at 9:39 AM, Simon Lord wrote: > Oh, and another thing... > > Move your idle routine to the stack script. If not then > browserNavigateComplete will stop working if you navigate away from > the card and come back. > > It's pretty bullet proof on my end once I got it setup in the right manner. > > > > On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Simon Lord wrote: >> Jerry, just be sure to set your idleRate to 1500 so as not to slow >> down the overall experience of your stack. I didn't show that in my >> earlier post. :) >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Jerry Daniels wrote: >>> Simon, >>> >>> I just tried this in the Rodeo embedded web browser and it works every >>> time! Amazingly wonderful hack that causes no side-effects that I can >>> perceive. Much better than my earlier hack, which required more care and >>> feeding. Your approach here is easily implemented and maintained. >>> >>> Bravo! >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Jerry Daniels >>> >>> Follow the Rodeo discussion: >>> http://rodeoapps.com/rodeo-discuss-among-yourselves >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jun 24, 2010, at 3:59 PM, Simon Lord wrote: >>> Actually, I got it working just a few moments ago by adding an idle statement: on idle if the short name of this cd is "iBrowser" then end if end idle That's all I did. Now browserNavigateComplete is actually getting trapped. Not sure of the reason but without the idle statement running I can't do anything. Now I'm trying to see if I can get browserClick to work. On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > I worked with revbrowser for a bit and made some inquiries. The > revbrowser is not a proper Rev object. What it does is "draw" the video > within the bounds of the rect you define. There are no rev events it will > process. Anything happening within the bounds of that rect are ignored by > Rev. That is why the RevBrowser example draws the rect inside a Rev > window, with other controls outside the rect of the video. > > I wanted to make a full screen video that went away once the user clicked > on the video, but alas, NO MOUSE CLICKS! No events inside the rect are > processed, EVEN if there is a rev object "behind" the video rect! See? > There is absolutely no interaction with the video rect at all. > > Bob > > > On Jun 24, 2010, at 12:27 PM, Simon Lord wrote: > >> I've posted a JPG of the issue here: >> >> http://www.marelina.com/miscellaneous/bad-url.jpg >> >> This stack is built off the sample browser stack which comes with >> RunRev. I have pretty much everything I need except for this >> insidious issue. As long as the mouse is within the bounds of the >> revBrowser display then the URL *never* gets updated. I've tried a >> multitude of methods to try and trap the mouse position, load success >> etc. Nothing is working. The only way to get the URL to update is if >> I move the mouse outside the red bounds—and that's just a bad >> solution. >> >> on idle, mouseWithin, mouseLeave, mouseEnter etc. None of these is >> triggered while the mouse is within the revBrowser. I can't even get >> code to execute when the loading is successful. It's really just >> plain bonkers. >> >> Any ideas? >> ___ >> use-revolution mailing list >> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >>> >>> ___ >>> use-revolution mailing list >>> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>> subscription preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revoluti
Re: revBrowser + youtube.com = Crashing?
Heather- Friday, June 25, 2010, 9:14:14 AM, you wrote: > You can turn off youtube ads in Internet Explorer by clicking the > 'Close Ad' button in top right of the youtube screen. Then shutdown > IE and > load up RevBrowser. Does it still crash? Here's a clue: while the latest Flash update is installed on my system, that apparently only affects Firefox. I never use IE, and had to go hunt it down on my hard disk. Here's what I get: Firefox: youtube loads with annoying Flash ad Ads can be toggled on/off with the button on top right IE7: youtube loads with static image instead of Flash There's no button to toggle ads on/off RevBrowser: same as IE7 (no surprise) -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revBrowser + youtube.com = Crashing?
Thanks for testing that, most helpful! We don't know what the fix will be yet, but just figuring out the cause goes a long way towards being able to find a fix! It's extremely difficult to fix something without knowing the cause :) cheers Heather On 25 Jun 2010, at 17:34, roger.e.el...@sealedair.com wrote: On 06/25/2010 at 12:14 PM, Heather Nagey wrote: Oh, he's not the only one who cannot make this crash. The team here at RR have been trying to crash this for several days on a variety of setups with different versions of Flash without any "success" at all. We have a new theory, maybe you folks can try this out for us. Maybe it is the localized advertising on youtube that is the difference. Perhaps US ads crash and UK ads don't? You can turn off youtube ads in Internet Explorer by clicking the 'Close Ad' button in top right of the youtube screen. Then shutdown IE and load up RevBrowser. Does it still crash? Crossing fingers that the answer is no :) Cheers Heather That worked for me Heather (WinXp, IE6). But what will be done to revBrowser so the end-user doesn't have to workaround whatever is actually causing this? ~Roger Eller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Heather Nagey Customer Services Manager http://www.runrev.com/ RunRev - Software construction for everyone follow me on twitter http://www.twitter.com/lainopik ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Uncomfirmed crash report (was Re: [OT] Computer news from Kassel)
On Thu, 24 Jun 2010, Ben Rubinstein wrote:
On 22/06/2010 16:01, Wilhelm Sanke wrote:
> > Apparently he had taken a look at the Revolution bug database with its
> > enormous lags in fixing even fatal bugs, e.g. Report #8275 "Groups:
> > Bugs and features ("last group" broken)?" of Sept 16, 2009, which
> > astonishingly is still listed as "unconfirmed" although it contains a
> > recipe to crash Revolution with only 4 lines of script.
Wilhelm,
I share your frustration with bug reports remaining uncomfirmed for long
periods, although I also agree with others (and perhaps you) that an
absolutist approach of no-new-features-until-every-bug-is-fixed is not
sensible.
However, taking a look at the report you mention, #8275, I can't find the
recipe for crashing Revolution with only 4 lines of script. There are
references in that report, to another report "How to reliably crash
Rev 3.5
and 4.0-dp3 with four script lines", but from various searches in
Bugzilla I
am unable to find it. Can you give me the report number?
Many thanks,
Ben
PS Thank you for taking the trouble to report issues in Bugzilla as I
know it
takes effort and it is a service to the community. But I would
recommend, to
get the maximum value in return for your trouble, creating separate
reports
for each issue so that each can be understood as simply as possible,
rather
than creating one very long report that ties together several issues.
Ben,
Thank you for looking into this matter. You are certainly right when you
recommend filing separate bug reports.
One thought that led me to put together a more comprehensive report is
the assumption that at least some of the listed bugs are somehow related
to each other. And, if someone finds out that "you can crash Rev with
only four lines of script" this should definitely arouse the attention
of the responsible members of the Rev team, irrespective whether the bug
report is multi-faceted or concentrated on one single sub-point. The Rev
team should be competent enough to deal with a number of related
troubles at the same time, or deal with them step by step. I believe
that they are basically capable to handle also complicated issues, they
are not first-graders in computer science.
There were 5 to 6 more sub-points concerning groups I was going to add
to that report, but I had waited for a first response - which never was
sent.up to now.
The four-liner is contained in point 5 of my bug report - see below -
and the post I mentioned there
"How to reliably crash Rev 3.5 and 4.0-dp3 with four script lines"
was sent to the use-revolution list on August 26, 2009 - and can be
found in the archives.
5. Groups belong to the factors in an already reported scenario for safely
crashing Rev
I have described this in detail in my recent post to this list "How to
reliably
crash Rev 3.5 and 4.0-dp3 with four script lines". Here I just point
out that
"group" is among the elements causing to crash Rev and refer you to my
original
post for more details.
The following script assumes that you have set the angle of img "test"
to an
angle other than 0, that img "test" is ungrouped, and that img "Test"
belongs
in the category of "Pre-PNGs".
"lock screen
select img "Test"
group
set the angle of img "Test" to 0"
For the definition of "Pre-PNGs" see my above-mentioned post or the
introduction of my stack
in the text
brought up
on the menu card from the topright introduction button.
Best regards,
Wilhelm Sanke
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Re: revBrowser + youtube.com = Crashing?
On 06/25/2010 at 12:14 PM, Heather Nagey wrote: > Oh, he's not the only one who cannot make this crash. The team here at > RR have been trying to crash this for several days on a variety of > setups with different versions of Flash without any "success" at all. > > We have a new theory, maybe you folks can try this out for us. Maybe > it is the localized advertising on youtube that is the difference. > Perhaps US ads crash and UK ads don't? > > You can turn off youtube ads in Internet Explorer by clicking the > 'Close Ad' button in top right of the youtube screen. Then shutdown > IE and > load up RevBrowser. Does it still crash? > > Crossing fingers that the answer is no :) > > Cheers > > Heather That worked for me Heather (WinXp, IE6). But what will be done to revBrowser so the end-user doesn't have to workaround whatever is actually causing this? ~Roger Eller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revBrowser madness
I was being proactive. Depending on what your stack is doing it may not affect you. I saw very little difference after adding an idleRate of 1500 (was noticeably slower at updating the URL when set to 3000). If your stack has lots of groups and other elements that require resizing or repositioning then you will likely want to make your idle statement as efficient as possible. On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Jerry Daniels wrote: > Simon, I kept my idlerate at the default and have no problems so far. Where > did u see slow down? > > Best, > > Jerry Daniels > > Join the Rodeo discussion: > http://rodeoapps.com/rodeo-discuss-among-yourselves > > On Jun 25, 2010, at 9:36 AM, Simon Lord wrote: > >> Jerry, just be sure to set your idleRate to 1500 so as not to slow >> down the overall experience of your stack. I didn't show that in my >> earlier post. :) >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Jerry Daniels wrote: >>> Simon, >>> >>> I just tried this in the Rodeo embedded web browser and it works every >>> time! Amazingly wonderful hack that causes no side-effects that I can >>> perceive. Much better than my earlier hack, which required more care and >>> feeding. Your approach here is easily implemented and maintained. >>> >>> Bravo! >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Jerry Daniels >>> >>> Follow the Rodeo discussion: >>> http://rodeoapps.com/rodeo-discuss-among-yourselves >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jun 24, 2010, at 3:59 PM, Simon Lord wrote: >>> Actually, I got it working just a few moments ago by adding an idle statement: on idle if the short name of this cd is "iBrowser" then end if end idle That's all I did. Now browserNavigateComplete is actually getting trapped. Not sure of the reason but without the idle statement running I can't do anything. Now I'm trying to see if I can get browserClick to work. On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > I worked with revbrowser for a bit and made some inquiries. The > revbrowser is not a proper Rev object. What it does is "draw" the video > within the bounds of the rect you define. There are no rev events it will > process. Anything happening within the bounds of that rect are ignored by > Rev. That is why the RevBrowser example draws the rect inside a Rev > window, with other controls outside the rect of the video. > > I wanted to make a full screen video that went away once the user clicked > on the video, but alas, NO MOUSE CLICKS! No events inside the rect are > processed, EVEN if there is a rev object "behind" the video rect! See? > There is absolutely no interaction with the video rect at all. > > Bob > > > On Jun 24, 2010, at 12:27 PM, Simon Lord wrote: > >> I've posted a JPG of the issue here: >> >> http://www.marelina.com/miscellaneous/bad-url.jpg >> >> This stack is built off the sample browser stack which comes with >> RunRev. I have pretty much everything I need except for this >> insidious issue. As long as the mouse is within the bounds of the >> revBrowser display then the URL *never* gets updated. I've tried a >> multitude of methods to try and trap the mouse position, load success >> etc. Nothing is working. The only way to get the URL to update is if >> I move the mouse outside the red bounds—and that's just a bad >> solution. >> >> on idle, mouseWithin, mouseLeave, mouseEnter etc. None of these is >> triggered while the mouse is within the revBrowser. I can't even get >> code to execute when the loading is successful. It's really just >> plain bonkers. >> >> Any ideas? >> ___ >> use-revolution mailing list >> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >>> >>> ___ >>> use-revolution mailing list >>> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>> subscription preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >>> >> ___ >> use-revolution mailing list >>
Re: revBrowser madness
Simon, I kept my idlerate at the default and have no problems so far. Where did u see slow down? Best, Jerry Daniels Join the Rodeo discussion: http://rodeoapps.com/rodeo-discuss-among-yourselves On Jun 25, 2010, at 9:36 AM, Simon Lord wrote: > Jerry, just be sure to set your idleRate to 1500 so as not to slow > down the overall experience of your stack. I didn't show that in my > earlier post. :) > > > > On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Jerry Daniels wrote: >> Simon, >> >> I just tried this in the Rodeo embedded web browser and it works every time! >> Amazingly wonderful hack that causes no side-effects that I can perceive. >> Much better than my earlier hack, which required more care and feeding. Your >> approach here is easily implemented and maintained. >> >> Bravo! >> >> Best, >> >> Jerry Daniels >> >> Follow the Rodeo discussion: >> http://rodeoapps.com/rodeo-discuss-among-yourselves >> >> >> >> On Jun 24, 2010, at 3:59 PM, Simon Lord wrote: >> >>> Actually, I got it working just a few moments ago by adding an idle >>> statement: >>> >>> on idle >>> if the short name of this cd is "iBrowser" then >>> end if >>> end idle >>> >>> That's all I did. Now browserNavigateComplete is actually getting >>> trapped. Not sure of the reason but without the idle statement >>> running I can't do anything. >>> >>> Now I'm trying to see if I can get browserClick to work. >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: I worked with revbrowser for a bit and made some inquiries. The revbrowser is not a proper Rev object. What it does is "draw" the video within the bounds of the rect you define. There are no rev events it will process. Anything happening within the bounds of that rect are ignored by Rev. That is why the RevBrowser example draws the rect inside a Rev window, with other controls outside the rect of the video. I wanted to make a full screen video that went away once the user clicked on the video, but alas, NO MOUSE CLICKS! No events inside the rect are processed, EVEN if there is a rev object "behind" the video rect! See? There is absolutely no interaction with the video rect at all. Bob On Jun 24, 2010, at 12:27 PM, Simon Lord wrote: > I've posted a JPG of the issue here: > > http://www.marelina.com/miscellaneous/bad-url.jpg > > This stack is built off the sample browser stack which comes with > RunRev. I have pretty much everything I need except for this > insidious issue. As long as the mouse is within the bounds of the > revBrowser display then the URL *never* gets updated. I've tried a > multitude of methods to try and trap the mouse position, load success > etc. Nothing is working. The only way to get the URL to update is if > I move the mouse outside the red bounds—and that's just a bad > solution. > > on idle, mouseWithin, mouseLeave, mouseEnter etc. None of these is > triggered while the mouse is within the revBrowser. I can't even get > code to execute when the loading is successful. It's really just > plain bonkers. > > Any ideas? > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >>> ___ >>> use-revolution mailing list >>> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>> subscription preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >> >> ___ >> use-revolution mailing list >> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription >> preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >> > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revBrowser + youtube.com = Crashing?
Oh, he's not the only one who cannot make this crash. The team here at RR have been trying to crash this for several days on a variety of setups with different versions of Flash without any "success" at all. We have a new theory, maybe you folks can try this out for us. Maybe it is the localized advertising on youtube that is the difference. Perhaps US ads crash and UK ads don't? You can turn off youtube ads in Internet Explorer by clicking the 'Close Ad' button in top right of the youtube screen. Then shutdown IE and load up RevBrowser. Does it still crash? Crossing fingers that the answer is no :) Cheers Heather On 25 Jun 2010, at 16:37, Bob Sneidar wrote: Actually it looks like you are the only one who is not crashing. You are like Will Smith in Legend. We need some of your blood. Bob On Jun 24, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Bob- Thursday, June 24, 2010, 3:24:38 PM, you wrote: Do you have the latest flash update? If you do, that is what is wrong. Or right as it were. Not sure. How do I tell? Apparently I've got 10.1.53.64 installed. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Heather Nagey Customer Services Manager http://www.runrev.com/ RunRev - Software construction for everyone follow me on twitter http://www.twitter.com/lainopik ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revBrowser madness
Ba-BINK! You probably stumbled upon what the whole issue is with a slew of RevBrowser problems people are having. Hey Revolution Guys! Are you reading all this? Bob On Jun 25, 2010, at 7:36 AM, Simon Lord wrote: > Actually, I got it working just a few moments ago by adding an idle statement: > > on idle > if the short name of this cd is "iBrowser" then > end if > end idle > > That's all I did. Now browserNavigateComplete is actually getting > trapped. Not sure of the reason but without the idle statement > running I can't do anything. > > Now I'm trying to see if I can get browserClick to work. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revBrowser + youtube.com = Crashing?
Actually it looks like you are the only one who is not crashing. You are like Will Smith in Legend. We need some of your blood. Bob On Jun 24, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: > Bob- > > Thursday, June 24, 2010, 3:24:38 PM, you wrote: > >> Do you have the latest flash update? If you do, that is what is wrong. Or >> right as it were. > > Not sure. How do I tell? Apparently I've got 10.1.53.64 installed. > > -- > -Mark Wieder > mwie...@ahsoftware.net > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revBrowser madness
Oh, and another thing... Move your idle routine to the stack script. If not then browserNavigateComplete will stop working if you navigate away from the card and come back. It's pretty bullet proof on my end once I got it setup in the right manner. On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Simon Lord wrote: > Jerry, just be sure to set your idleRate to 1500 so as not to slow > down the overall experience of your stack. I didn't show that in my > earlier post. :) > > > > On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Jerry Daniels wrote: >> Simon, >> >> I just tried this in the Rodeo embedded web browser and it works every time! >> Amazingly wonderful hack that causes no side-effects that I can perceive. >> Much better than my earlier hack, which required more care and feeding. Your >> approach here is easily implemented and maintained. >> >> Bravo! >> >> Best, >> >> Jerry Daniels >> >> Follow the Rodeo discussion: >> http://rodeoapps.com/rodeo-discuss-among-yourselves >> >> >> >> On Jun 24, 2010, at 3:59 PM, Simon Lord wrote: >> >>> Actually, I got it working just a few moments ago by adding an idle >>> statement: >>> >>> on idle >>> if the short name of this cd is "iBrowser" then >>> end if >>> end idle >>> >>> That's all I did. Now browserNavigateComplete is actually getting >>> trapped. Not sure of the reason but without the idle statement >>> running I can't do anything. >>> >>> Now I'm trying to see if I can get browserClick to work. >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: I worked with revbrowser for a bit and made some inquiries. The revbrowser is not a proper Rev object. What it does is "draw" the video within the bounds of the rect you define. There are no rev events it will process. Anything happening within the bounds of that rect are ignored by Rev. That is why the RevBrowser example draws the rect inside a Rev window, with other controls outside the rect of the video. I wanted to make a full screen video that went away once the user clicked on the video, but alas, NO MOUSE CLICKS! No events inside the rect are processed, EVEN if there is a rev object "behind" the video rect! See? There is absolutely no interaction with the video rect at all. Bob On Jun 24, 2010, at 12:27 PM, Simon Lord wrote: > I've posted a JPG of the issue here: > > http://www.marelina.com/miscellaneous/bad-url.jpg > > This stack is built off the sample browser stack which comes with > RunRev. I have pretty much everything I need except for this > insidious issue. As long as the mouse is within the bounds of the > revBrowser display then the URL *never* gets updated. I've tried a > multitude of methods to try and trap the mouse position, load success > etc. Nothing is working. The only way to get the URL to update is if > I move the mouse outside the red bounds—and that's just a bad > solution. > > on idle, mouseWithin, mouseLeave, mouseEnter etc. None of these is > triggered while the mouse is within the revBrowser. I can't even get > code to execute when the loading is successful. It's really just > plain bonkers. > > Any ideas? > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >>> ___ >>> use-revolution mailing list >>> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>> subscription preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >> >> ___ >> use-revolution mailing list >> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription >> preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >> > ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revBrowser madness
Jerry, just be sure to set your idleRate to 1500 so as not to slow down the overall experience of your stack. I didn't show that in my earlier post. :) On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Jerry Daniels wrote: > Simon, > > I just tried this in the Rodeo embedded web browser and it works every time! > Amazingly wonderful hack that causes no side-effects that I can perceive. > Much better than my earlier hack, which required more care and feeding. Your > approach here is easily implemented and maintained. > > Bravo! > > Best, > > Jerry Daniels > > Follow the Rodeo discussion: > http://rodeoapps.com/rodeo-discuss-among-yourselves > > > > On Jun 24, 2010, at 3:59 PM, Simon Lord wrote: > >> Actually, I got it working just a few moments ago by adding an idle >> statement: >> >> on idle >> if the short name of this cd is "iBrowser" then >> end if >> end idle >> >> That's all I did. Now browserNavigateComplete is actually getting >> trapped. Not sure of the reason but without the idle statement >> running I can't do anything. >> >> Now I'm trying to see if I can get browserClick to work. >> >> On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: >>> I worked with revbrowser for a bit and made some inquiries. The revbrowser >>> is not a proper Rev object. What it does is "draw" the video within the >>> bounds of the rect you define. There are no rev events it will process. >>> Anything happening within the bounds of that rect are ignored by Rev. That >>> is why the RevBrowser example draws the rect inside a Rev window, with >>> other controls outside the rect of the video. >>> >>> I wanted to make a full screen video that went away once the user clicked >>> on the video, but alas, NO MOUSE CLICKS! No events inside the rect are >>> processed, EVEN if there is a rev object "behind" the video rect! See? >>> There is absolutely no interaction with the video rect at all. >>> >>> Bob >>> >>> >>> On Jun 24, 2010, at 12:27 PM, Simon Lord wrote: >>> I've posted a JPG of the issue here: http://www.marelina.com/miscellaneous/bad-url.jpg This stack is built off the sample browser stack which comes with RunRev. I have pretty much everything I need except for this insidious issue. As long as the mouse is within the bounds of the revBrowser display then the URL *never* gets updated. I've tried a multitude of methods to try and trap the mouse position, load success etc. Nothing is working. The only way to get the URL to update is if I move the mouse outside the red bounds—and that's just a bad solution. on idle, mouseWithin, mouseLeave, mouseEnter etc. None of these is triggered while the mouse is within the revBrowser. I can't even get code to execute when the loading is successful. It's really just plain bonkers. Any ideas? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >>> >>> ___ >>> use-revolution mailing list >>> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>> subscription preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >>> >> ___ >> use-revolution mailing list >> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription >> preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revBrowser madness
Simon, I just tried this in the Rodeo embedded web browser and it works every time! Amazingly wonderful hack that causes no side-effects that I can perceive. Much better than my earlier hack, which required more care and feeding. Your approach here is easily implemented and maintained. Bravo! Best, Jerry Daniels Follow the Rodeo discussion: http://rodeoapps.com/rodeo-discuss-among-yourselves On Jun 24, 2010, at 3:59 PM, Simon Lord wrote: > Actually, I got it working just a few moments ago by adding an idle statement: > > on idle > if the short name of this cd is "iBrowser" then > end if > end idle > > That's all I did. Now browserNavigateComplete is actually getting > trapped. Not sure of the reason but without the idle statement > running I can't do anything. > > Now I'm trying to see if I can get browserClick to work. > > On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: >> I worked with revbrowser for a bit and made some inquiries. The revbrowser >> is not a proper Rev object. What it does is "draw" the video within the >> bounds of the rect you define. There are no rev events it will process. >> Anything happening within the bounds of that rect are ignored by Rev. That >> is why the RevBrowser example draws the rect inside a Rev window, with other >> controls outside the rect of the video. >> >> I wanted to make a full screen video that went away once the user clicked on >> the video, but alas, NO MOUSE CLICKS! No events inside the rect are >> processed, EVEN if there is a rev object "behind" the video rect! See? There >> is absolutely no interaction with the video rect at all. >> >> Bob >> >> >> On Jun 24, 2010, at 12:27 PM, Simon Lord wrote: >> >>> I've posted a JPG of the issue here: >>> >>> http://www.marelina.com/miscellaneous/bad-url.jpg >>> >>> This stack is built off the sample browser stack which comes with >>> RunRev. I have pretty much everything I need except for this >>> insidious issue. As long as the mouse is within the bounds of the >>> revBrowser display then the URL *never* gets updated. I've tried a >>> multitude of methods to try and trap the mouse position, load success >>> etc. Nothing is working. The only way to get the URL to update is if >>> I move the mouse outside the red bounds—and that's just a bad >>> solution. >>> >>> on idle, mouseWithin, mouseLeave, mouseEnter etc. None of these is >>> triggered while the mouse is within the revBrowser. I can't even get >>> code to execute when the loading is successful. It's really just >>> plain bonkers. >>> >>> Any ideas? >>> ___ >>> use-revolution mailing list >>> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>> subscription preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >> >> ___ >> use-revolution mailing list >> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription >> preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >> > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Datagrid click and set background color for a column
On Jun 23, 2010, at 1:31 PM, JosepM wrote: And how to change these color in function of the value of other col in the same row? Well, I know how to get the value but the problem is that I don't know the name of the column, so the array is created in function of the position. How Do I Get Data Associated With a Row or Column? http://lessons.runrev.com/spaces/lessons/manuals/datagrid/lessons/7313-How-Do-I-Get-Data-Associated-With-a-Row-or-Column- This lesson shows some ways to get data out. It shows how to use the dgColumn property in behaviors as well as GetDataOfIndex. GetDataOfIndex is what you would use to get values for other columns in the row. It is one way you can grab values from invisible columns. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems ScreenSteps: http://www.screensteps.com Releasable Revolution Resources for Developers: http://revolution.bluemangolearning.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Line Numbers in Text Editor
Hi Justin, Am 25.06.2010 um 10:49 schrieb BNig: > > Justin, > > look at the formattedText property of a text field. It gives you the the > text of a field and inserts returns where the line wraps otherwise. This way > you have a line count of the field which matches what you see and not the > number of returns. > > put the formattedText of field "myWrappingField" into temp > put the number of lines of temp or, if you are in a hurry: ... put the num of lines of the formattedtext of fld "Bernd's WrappingField" ... ;-) > regards > Bernd Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major.on-rev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Line Numbers in Text Editor
Justin, look at the formattedText property of a text field. It gives you the the text of a field and inserts returns where the line wraps otherwise. This way you have a line count of the field which matches what you see and not the number of returns. put the formattedText of field "myWrappingField" into temp put the number of lines of temp regards Bernd -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Line-Numbers-in-Text-Editor-tp2266755p2268157.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Chartmaker 2
That is why I mentioned them both and bought them both. They are both excellent additions to Rev. -=>JB<=- On Jun 25, 2010, at 1:23 AM, Hugh Senior wrote: Thank you for the kind words, JB. Although there is obviously overlap, ChartMaker and ChartsEngine are more complementary than mutually exclusive. It depends on the application, personal preference and feature sets required. Hugh Senior FLCo -= JB =- wrote: I recently purchased Chartmaker 2 for Rev and it is an excellent addition for anyone who wants charts and graphs. I already own chartsEngine written by Malte and I love it too. You might wonder why did I buy Chartmaker 2 when I already own chartsEngine. I like the ability to graph my data and these both provide a different look which I think are both very nice. There are so many things that can be viewed with a graph I am really happy Rev has both of these products. Revolution is an excellent programming environment which just got better with chartsEngine by Malte and Chartmaker 2 written by Hugh Senior of Flexible Learning Company. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Chartmaker 2
Thank you for the kind words, JB. Although there is obviously overlap, ChartMaker and ChartsEngine are more complementary than mutually exclusive. It depends on the application, personal preference and feature sets required. Hugh Senior FLCo -= JB =- wrote: >I recently purchased Chartmaker 2 for Rev and it is an excellent >addition for anyone who wants charts and graphs. > >I already own chartsEngine written by Malte and I love it too. >You might wonder why did I buy Chartmaker 2 when I already own >chartsEngine. I like the ability to graph my data and these both >provide a different look which I think are both very nice. > >There are so many things that can be viewed with a graph I am >really happy Rev has both of these products. > >Revolution is an excellent programming environment which just got >better with chartsEngine by Malte and Chartmaker 2 written by >Hugh Senior of Flexible Learning Company. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Pasted card with a background not included in the number of cds of this bg
Thanks a lot Jacque and Jim; far much clearer for me now ;-)) So, as I need to get the number of cards of a given background "Bg1" each time I create a new card from one which has this background on it, I replaced copy/paste card (that I was trying before) with clone this card. Indeed, with copy/paste the number of cards in background Bg1 does not increase by 1, while with clone this card it does. Best regards from Grenoble André Le 24 juin 10 à 17:40, Jim Ault a écrit : On Jun 24, 2010, at 7:33 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Andre.Bisseret wrote: So, if one copy/paste a card including a group whose backgroundBehavior is set to true, the new card is not a part of the cards of the background despite the fact that this background is actually on the card. More, if one clone such a card (resulting of copy/paste) then the new card is not a part of the cards of the background!! Yes, because when you copy/paste or clone, you are making a copy of the entire card including the background group. The new group looks identical but is really independent. It is the same as copy/pasting any other control, you get a new one. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay The way to see this is to check the ID of the backgrounds. I was missing that; OK, with copy/past card the name of the background remains but the ID changes To include the cards as having the same bg ID, use the Place command. it works with clone card too It is also useful to rename backgrounds so that you don't get confused about which one is which. In my case, I need to keep the same name Also note: you can have multiple backgrounds on a single card, each having its own ID. OK In the stack script you could do this discovery technique: on opencard put the backgroundIDs of this stack & "=stk" into message box put cr & the backgroundIDs of this card & "=cd" after message box put cr & the number of groups of this card & "=gr" after message box pass opencard -- in case another handler is waiting for this end opencard Ok, I tried that, very usefull to better understand (I added "put cr & the number of cds in bg "bg1" Also note that 'group' and 'background' are synonymous if the background behavior of a group it true. You can use the Place and Remove as often as you like, since the (backgrounds and groups) belong to the stack, not the card. Hope this helps, Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Line Numbers in Text Editor
I went with using a parallel field to add line numbers and it is working well. However, rev only counts the line numbers based on the delimeter. So if word warp is turned on you end up with more lines then there are actual line numbers. Does anyone know of a way to count all the lines, even the lines that are wrapped and not separated by the delimeter? - Justin On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Jeff Massung wrote: > I used a parallel field in my Cryogen editor (http://massj.tumblr.com for > video + screenshot). Worked out perfectly, and now that I've done it that > way once, I actually wouldn't want to do it any other way in the future. > > Jeff M. > > On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 6:01 AM, Justin Sloan wrote: > >> I am planning to implement line numbers in a proprietary text editor >> that I wrote for in-house use. Problem is, I don't know how I am >> going to implement it. I thought about using a parallel text field, >> but there has to be an easier way. Any of you genius devs have any >> ideas? >> ___ >> use-revolution mailing list >> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >> > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
