Re: Database vs Array
3. Can it be protected? Ye, but it is not a free feature. Check this: http://www.hwaci.com/sw/sqlite/prosupport.html#crypto http://sqlitee.homepc.it/ http://www.sqlite-crypt.com/ On the other hand you can use revolution to encode/decode data before it gets into the database and when extracting... Best wishes Viktoras ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
OT: some news on MySQL...
...MySQL AB being acquired by Sun Microsystems Inc for 1000 000 000 USD . Hmmm, interesting... http://www.sun.com/aboutsun/pr/2008-01/sunflash.20080116.1.xml Viktoras ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
broken windows in screen mirroring mode (Tiger)
...so I connected my macbook to media projector, switched to mirror mode to have the same view in both screens, started my application (compiled on windows xp), and saw its windows broken into parts and pieces, all the formatting lost... Is it a bug of Revolution or MacOSX ? When using the default extended desktop mode then everything looks correctly, so the bug manifests itself in screen mirroring mode only. Did anyone observe anything like this ? At least I did not find any reports in quality center... Best wishes Viktoras ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 'the files' and 'the folders' and diacriticals
Hi Mark, forwarding the original posts on non-english file names by Kenji Kojima (2008-01-16) that describe a possible solution of your problem :-): put cd ~/Desktop cr ls into tScript set the unicodeText of fld 1 to uniencode(shell(tScript),utf8) The first line was shell command got list names of files in working directory. You got UTF8 filenames. Then it's converted to UTF16 and set the test field 1. Best regards Viktoras Mark E. Powell wrote: Want to give this one last swag before throwing in the towel. If I want to use shell() to point a command line application to the folder below. C:\říkáme\ How do I do it? I am currently running 2.8.0. Perhaps something has changed in later versions that improves Rev's ability to preserve diacriticals in file and folder names when using 'the files' and 'the folders'? Thanks in advance. Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Look and Learn . . .
Hi Richmond,
commenting on #4 of your post - b.t.w. this is a so called visual
programming or dataflow programming where you draw boxes, link them
with arrows and it works... There are lots of tools for this already,
starting with dataflow scripting in Idrisi GIS system and continuing
with a list of 52 other languages like Microsoft VPL:
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb483088.aspx
or Tersus for web applications:
http://www.tersus.com/
or see wikipedia for more:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_programming_language
But so far they do not seem very popular...
Well, me personally prefers writing and reading, i think it is easier,
or maybe I am just used to symbolic thinking or don't know how this is
called ;-), so I am happy with Revolution as it is. On the other hand,
given some motivation ($$$) someone can try and implement a plugin for
Revolution for drawing the scripts as dataflow diagrams instead of
writing them. Indeed, why not?..
All the best!
Viktoras
4. {admittedly not an quote from Mark Swindell}
Richmond is a pain in the ***.
Yes, I am a pain in the ***, and aim to continue to be
until this HUGE problem is resolved.
When I was a child, way back in 1976, the British
government was pumping schools full of propaganda that
stated that in the great and glorious future we could
order up anything we wanted from computers without an
additional cognitive load (well, they didn't go as
far as using fancy pseudo-psychological terms as
'cognitive load') caused by having to learn to
navigate our way round increasingly complex GUIs both
of operating systems, and of RADs; and learning
programming languages.
Runtime Revolution has a lot of good buried under the
hood; and
non-experts have to spend such a long time learning
how to see and interpret what is under the hood that
it is hardly worth the bother.
Runtime Revolution with a fully automated interface
based on a vast decision tree should blow the pants of
every other RAD (or silly PowerPoint thingy) out
there.
Sorry to keep plugging; but I did develop an extremely
primitive seed of what could be done as my MSc
project; it is enormous, clunky and incredibly
inefficient - but it proves its point:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/RRRThesis/
(all the code is there)
my recent 'Splash Screen Designer' (revOnline) uses
exactly the same principle; which, I believe, is the
principle, the whole RR GUI is based around.
sincerely, Richmond Mathewson
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Re: Look and Learn . . .
well, then it looks like Revolution Media on steroids :-). An integrated decision support system with zillions of templates and wizards in its knowledge base (remote server or gigabytes stored locally) to assist in filling in those templates. Lots of work and should be based on massive feedback from these same professors, and teachers, but do they know what they want and will they have time for the feedback ?.. I imagine this would require efforts of many people and is possibly a good idea for an open source or a wiki initiative... Best wishes Viktoras Richmond Mathewson wrote: Viktoras Didziulis wrote: this is a so called visual programming or dataflow programming I know about that, but that is not what I meant; what I mean is Agent-guided program creation (as demonstrated at http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/RRRThesis/files/ files KALA.zip 1 to 12) both visual programming and/or dataflow programming still demand thinking which should not be required of the specialist who has spent years specialising in their field and has not either the time nor the inclination of going down that road (nor may be capable of thinking in that way). I worked with Primary School teachers at Greyfriar's Primary School in St Andrews who described their computer skills to me as: 1. turn on/off Windows PCs 2. create a document in MS Word 3. Pop CDs into the CD drives for pupil use. [Unfortunately this is what education departments describe as computer literacy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_literacy] They blew their minds when I showed them the few, small things KALA-rev could do . . . I held out the promise that at the end of a long day whipping the tinies into line (and Primary Teachers work very hard indeed) over a cup of tea they could rapidly be guided by an Agent to put together programs that could subsequently be used by children to reinforce knowledge/information that they had previously studied. - On a personal basis, having started with MiniFortran (who remembers that?) I think xTalk, and particularly the RR version, is wonderful; and rather like my attitude to automatic cars; give me a gear-stick any day so I don't feel out of control. However, there are millions of educators, librarians and so forth who are just gasping for an automatic car to do the driving for them. --- But so far they do not seem very popular... Of course they don't; they have been developed by programmers with a mind-set that still: expects people to think either visually or in terms of dataflow; both which presuppose all sorts of things which historians, doctors, and so forth may not be prepared to deal with. cannot escape from the idea that one has to sweat one's way through a steep learning curve to do something that, in actual fact, with good GUI automation, should require only the following knowledge: 1. Turn on the PC, 2. Start the automated GUI [this is if the automated GUI is not already configured as either all or part of the GUI of the OS], 3. Mouse-Click on choice buttons, 4. Type text into text-boxes, and NOTHING ELSE. While that does not (at least as far as I am concerned) in any way constitute computer literacy; computer literacy should not be required of the vast majority of people- they should however be able to deliver information relating to their specialist field via computers and computer-related media without any computer literacy whatsoever. - At the Primary School where I did my alpha-testing there was a dedicated classroom containing some 15 Pentium 3s running Windows 98 just pulsing with unrealised potential. Children were taught (2004) how to use a PAINT program, TYPE a letter, use a variety of CD-ROMs containing encyclopedias (which would have been just as good in book format), and a few fairly mindless games of no pedagogical value whatsoever (beyond, possibly, giving the poor, overworked and underpaid teacher, a few minutes to breath). All that is effectively rubbish when Runtime Revolution (for instance) can produce programs that children can interact with to reinforce, reiterate and deliver content (and :) allow the teacher a break). - Imagine a language teacher with 15 vocabulary items in a target language. The teacher needs the pupils to be able to use the vocab items in context, and does not have the time to check the 26 pupils s/he teaches. Teacher sits down in front of the PC and is guided through to a program that lets children check those vocab items against the mother-tongue, and use them in a variety of contexts (statements, questions, word-to-picture matching . . .). Now I (and, presumably 99% of the subscribers to this Use-lIst) can knock something half-way useful of this sort out in 45 minutes. But that is at a price of quite a bit of time learning the programming language, learning the object metaphor, and so forth. Most teacher, lecturers, profs, business conference presenters do not have the time to learn all the above
Re: Rev on OLPC Sugar OS?
try LiveCD: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/LiveCd. I tried running Revolution and apps compiled with it on Puppy Linux. It worked there... There is probably no reason why it shouldn't run on this XO Sugar thing :-) Best wishes Viktoras John Patten wrote: Hi All! Just curious... How possible would it be, now that Rev is also fairly Linux capable, would it be to get a version of Rev to work on the OLPC XO Sugar driven laptop? Thank You! John Patten ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: advice on a Rev-plus-internet setup (off-topic)
Hi Nicolas,
any communication between the client and the server can be sniffed. So
passwords that client passes to the server are not sufficient to protect
the database. As Ken wrote, you can try setting up different access
levels for different users in MySQL. And never trust the submitted
content, which means your relay script has to prevent any access to the
database unless the submitted string is not what it is supposed to be.
For example you can use regular expressions in the serverside script to
detect anything that should not come from the client - something like this:
unless ($q=~m/|alter |insert|truncate|drop |modify|create|\0|use |check
| key /i)
{
#pass sql string ($q) to the database and return result
}
else
{
# Access denied to prevent SQL injection attempt
print sorry, you can't;
exit 0;
}
Best wishes
Viktoras
Nicolas Cueto wrote:
Many thanks to Viktoras and Len for the server side relay
explanation.
I can now use Rev to connect with a MySQL database stored on my
web-host's server thru a php relay-script that is also on the same
server.
One other thing, now. The issue of security has been brought up. For
now,
my solution has been to place my server-side php relay-scripts in a
password
protected folder. This way, when my Rev stack calls the php
relay-script, I
include the user name and password for that folder in the url.
Is that sufficient? Or, what's the other avenue I should now be
following?
Again, many thanks for both the help and patience.
Cheers,
Nicolas Cueto
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Re: Want a Window with a vertical scroll
Hi Thomas, group these 5 fields and add a vertical scroll to the group. Viktoras Thomas Bähler wrote: Dear RunRev List In my project I have five list-fields next to each other with equal but varying number of lines. I wanted a common vertical scroll to see all lines when there are to many to display in the window. First I experimented with a table-field but the formating was too complicated. I then thought I calculate the height of the fields according to the number of lines, and put a vertical scroll to the window. But, there is no vertical scroll for a window, is there? Another thing I stumbled over: sorting lines by item x of a variable won't work when the linedelimiter and itemdelimiter have been changed. Thanks for hints Thomas Bähler ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: advice on a Rev-plus-internet setup (off-topic)
Hi Nicolas, Leaving an open port for remote access to any database would it be MySQL or Postgress is considered a serious web server security breach and most providers are aware about this. Besides your data would never be secure on such an open system - anyone that is able to sniff your password can drop all your tables, and do even more harm... You should use a server side relay script which would ensure secure communication between the database and you application by filtering all the input and stopping any potentially dangerous strings. This also allows database-enabled application to be distributed without MySQL drivers, so you won't owe anything to MySQL AB. A while ago a simple relay script written in Perl was posted to this list - see archives (October 3, 2007) look for the thread 'serverside relay script'. It can also be implemented in PHP or any other server-side scripting language. Best wishes Viktoras Nicolas Cueto wrote: However, how are the text files maintained now? Since you can use get URL textfile the same as reading a file on the (file) server, it seems to me that it could be as simple as adding the characters URL to your get/put instructions. Thanks for the reply. I had thought about using get/put URL if I continued to rely on txt files. I'll give it a try. But the reason I was thinking databases instead was the possibility of several users getting/putting information simultaneously thru the server. So, with this in mind, back onto the topic of databases... After looking around the RunRev archives, one unexpected thing came up. It seems that because licensing is an issue, some members have suggested PostgreSQL over MySQL, given the former's clearly stated (and free!) licensing policy. Another thing I learnt from the archives (and from experience with my current web host) is that connecting remotely to a database is not popular among web hosts. They seem to prefer online management. One web host that does allow remote access, and which is repeatedly recommended by Rev users is Dreamhost. But, their set up is only MySQL. So, my next question is, would anyone care to recommend a webhost that allows remote connections (via Rev, of course!) to a PostgreSQL database? Cheers, Nicolas Cueto ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Recipes application
Hi Peter, it works fine on Windows XP, but does not start on my MacOSX 10.4.11 MacBook (Intel). By the way it would be useful to have a few filters not just to select from vegetarian/vegan/sugar-free but also to limit list of recipes to e.g. soups, pancakes, cakes. And maybe a central database of recipes online, so once somebody enters new soup, this information becomes available to all :-) Best wishes Viktoras Peter Brigham wrote: FYI, I just finished up creating my first standalone (with help from a variety of people on this list). It's a little application that allows you to store, print, import and export recipes. Tired of trying to read those old butter-stained pieces of paper in that overstuffed folder you keep somewhere in your kitchen? Try printing out a copy of the recipe each time you cook. That way you can easily give copies to your friends when they say I've got to have that recipe! Plus, you can easily import/export a recipe to or from the clipboard for exchanging recipes by email, for instance. Import recipes in Meal-Master or MasterCook formats, so you can easily collect recipes from the web. Freeware. Available at: http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig/RecipeFile.html I'm particularly interested in feedback from the Windows users out there, as I have limited access to a Windows machine for testing. The Windows version should work fine (I hope), but the look-and-feel might need some tweaking. Not a very sophisticated app, but useful -- I've been using a version of it in the Mac IDE for several years, and my wife has come to depend on it. The hidden agenda is that it's a dry run on building a standalone out of a much more complex stack system I use in my practice, for eventual marketing, so the experience has been good for learning. -- Peter Peter M. Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig/ --I try to take one day at a time, but occasionally several days attack me at once. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How download revolution 2.9 beta ?
Download failed. Do you want to try again? - this is what happens on MS Windows... Viktoras Sarah Reichelt wrote: On Dec 28, 2007 7:38 PM, Peter Alcibiades [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tried to get Beta3 from within the Beta2 program. It does indeed download, or says it is, and then a small window appears, and it appears from the progress bar to complete the download, but everything then freezes. Tried a couple of times. The small window seems to be showing a snapshot of the desktop contents under it when it was created. If you drag stuff across the window it shows a sort of stripy repetition of what was dragged across. Never seen this before. If you click all over the small window, nothing happens. This is on Debian Lenny, Gnome. I'll have a go with a different desktop manager just to make sure. I had to do the complete download. The Check for updates never completed. This was OS X. In Mark's notification email, he gave the direct download links, so you might be better trying that. Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Is there such thing as a univeral abort command
Hi Mark, exit to top aborts all running handlers see also: exit handler (e.g. exit mouseup) exit repeat Best wishes Viktoras Mark E. Powell wrote: Maybe a very simpleton question: Is there a universal abort command that will stop (in a standalone) any running handler? Or must each handler that I want to be abortable have some polling? TIA Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Massive joins
The query needed to left join 3 tables (with 10 000 (species), 30 000 (donor regions) and 200 (region definitions) records.) on the forth with 40 000 records (species introduction events) and filter the result list of regions using constraints (WHERE...) on 1 or 20 fields. Using LEFT JOINs in this case was very slow - up to 10 minutes. I rewrote joins (as described in SQL by Martin Gruber) in a form like this: SELECT DISTINCT sir.country, sir.start_year, sir.end_year FROM species_in_region sir WHERE sir.idspecies IN( SELECT sp.idspecies FROM species sp WHERE sp.ordo IN(1,10,23,15) ) AND sir.id_sp_region IN( SELECT da.id_sp_region FROM donor_areas da WHERE da.regionid IN(2,3,4,115,23,21) ) AND /etc/ ORDER BY sir.end_year Implemented in this form it takes less than a second. SQLite is a very small database engine and likely (???) does not perform any query optimizations internally. In comparison with MySQL, which does optimise joins, the same unoptimised query with joins in MySQL database server is executed just a little (~0.2 sec.) slower than manually-optimised query in SQLite. Viktoras Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: Can you explain this? JOIN on RAM db/tables SqlLite do so slowly ??? why? What reason? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Massive Speed difference between Mac/PC with SQLite
Hi Dave, try building your database in :memory: mode. Then dump it to hard disk when ready. I do this routinely in an Rev/SQLite program that deals with 100 000 records distributed over 25 tables with about and 127 fields and it takes less then 2 seconds to copy the entire database to RAM and no query returning thousands of records from the database takes longer then 7 secs on a modest 1,4 GHz Windows XP system with 256 Mb RAM. Well, queries had to be manually optimised, otherwise traditional joins of a few tables took ~10 min. to execute returning the same result set. One more alternative hint for sqlite (this won't work with in-RAM databases launched from within Rev, but will for any hard-disk based db) is to NOT use SQL to populate the entire database with large amounts of data. Use shell to sqlite3 executable to .import FILE TABLE. This works much, much, much faster. Viktoras Dave wrote: Hi, I have an application that works on Mac and PC. There is a process that read an XML file, re-arranges the data and writes a record to an SQLite database. On the Mac, to build a 10,000 Tracks database takes around 90 seconds, how ever on the PC the same code (both in the Standalone and the IDE) runs, much, much, slower. The same 10,000 records takes over 10 minutes! Does anyone have an idea why this should be? All the Best Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Massive joins
Hi Ruslan, Well, it seems to me this is simple task, and small tables. Valentina should resolve such joins in e.g. 0.01 - 0.1 sec or less. V: Yes, I can imagine this and Valentina is in my considerations for a very special project which has already started... What keeps me from purchasing it now is actually the price tags in a list of all the very useful things and software I would need to purchase for my work :-).. Anyway, I guess for the end user there is no big difference whether a single query executes in 0.1, 0.3 or 3 secs. The vital part is to ensure that she/he is not forced to wait any longer then ~10 secs. And this is already achievable. I rewrote joins (as described in SQL by Martin Gruber) in a form like this: But this looks like nightmare! Where from you get this magic numbers IN(1,10,23,15) A) You did before this many other small queries to collect them? B) And later you build this big SQL string? (also time at last of end). If yes, then you need also count time of (A) + (B) + (C) Well, IMHO its very hard in real life write for each join such MANUAL optimizations :-) V: True, but in this particular situation Rev script makes such a query from user's selections in lists. So A) is executed only once, when program initializes its list fields (where it takes the magic numbers from) from lookup tables, then B) takes the exactly same amount of time the end-user defines the selections and C) executes within 7 secs at max (when there are thousands of matching cases to be returned) but usually within 1-2 sec. This is quite acceptable. Best wishes! Viktoras ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How do I create an Icon View
Hi Mark, if I understood you correctly, you need a field which displays contents of a folder (table, database, etc) in a list where icons indicate the type of a resource displayed. Basically you will need to set the imageSource of char 1 to yourimg for each line in a field describing a resource. If you wish to show it in 2 or 3 columns - just insert tabs where appropriate, set the itemdelimiter to tab, and set the imageSource of char 1 to yourimg for each item... An example that might serve you as a source of ideas is described (and can be downloaded and reused) at http://www.runrev.com/newsletter/september/issue32/newsletter3.php Viktoras mfstuart wrote: If I may explain a little more... I would like the display to behave like the Icons View. This view is loaded dynamically from say the contents of a folder, or selected rows in a SQL database, or whatever the criteria. Even links to PDF files. User clicks on the icon and the script launches and opens the file. If I were to load each of the icons (an image) and icon text name dynamically onto a form, what kind of container (or object) would I load them into? A table object? Would the contents be something like...? First row: Load the table object with an icon then TAB (as the delimiter) then icon, etc., with the row height say upto something like 80. Alternate row: Name of the icon TAB (as delimiter) then icon, etc. Is this how to approach it? And would I have to set the property of this table object to HTMLtext, or something? Not sure. Thanx again, Mark Stuart Björnke von Gierke wrote: You need buttons which have an icon, but no showBorder, threeD and no hiliteBorder. Look them up in the docu, as well as the icons border part of the inspector. On 14 Nov 2007, at 21:46, mfstuart wrote: Hi all, On Mac and Win platforms, the Explorer and Finder have an Icon View. Where each icon (and icon name) appear in a grid type of layout? How would I create this type of layout with RunRev? Thanx, Mark Stuart -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/How-do-I-create-an-Icon-View-tf4807893.html#a13756153 Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Anyone noticing stalled uploading? find a solution?
hi Josh, if you upload via ftp try increasing libURLSetFTPStopTime to anything more than the default 15 seconds. Dictionary says: use the libURLSetFTPStopTime command to increase the efficiency of multiple FTP transfers. The timeout set by libURLSetFTPStopTime controls when Revolution closes the connection from its end. or try setting the socketTimeoutInterval to some astronomic value like 30 000 (the default is 10 000, which means 10 sec). Some time ago this solved my problems with stalled downloads :-) Best wishes Viktoras Josh Mellicker wrote: I am uploading a list of files. After uploading a few files with no problem, uploading stalls with no progress, and no timeout message is sent. The first thing I tried was implementing a red light/green light to make the upload blocking, so the second file would wait (with messages) for the first file to successfully finish uploading before proceeding, and so on. This seemed to help a little, but uploading still stalls intermittently. Big Watcher The next thing was, once the uploading begins, to start a Big Watcher callback loop, that acts as a Supervisor to monitor the libURLSetStatusCallback callback, with a 2 second non-blocking loop- send checkForStalledUpload to me in 5 seconds If the status and bytes downloaded match, the Supervisor assumes the current upload is stalled and does a resetAll and starts over on the first unuploaded file. In theory, this sounds good, but so far, we haven't been able to get the resetAll to work... Has anyone else experienced stalled libURL operations when uploading or downloading a list of files? Did you find a solution? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: SQLite3 - problems connecting to database
if you are on MS Windows try this fix: 1) delete dbsqlite3.dll and Database_Drivers.txt from ...\My Documents\My Revolution Studio\Externals\Database Drivers 2) delete dbsqlite3.dll and Database_Drivers.txt from ...\My Documents\My Revolution Studio\Runtime\Windows\x86-32\Externals\Database Drivers You do not need any password for the sqlite to work. If you use relative paths make sure the defaultfolder is set to the folder where your stack resides. Connect to the existing database like this put revOpenDatabase(sqlite,dbPath) into dbId and query like that: get revDataFromQuery(tab,return,dbId, vSQL) Best wishes Viktoras ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Question on RunRev/SQLite
when you select database Type : SQLite in the database query builder under Connection tab there are only 2 fields you can type something in: Name (query name) and Database (path to the db with file browser). There are no fields for password or any logon there... Make sure the field Type contains only 1 instance of SQLite. Otherwise (if it allows choose 2 SQLite options) it displays the older installation of altSQLite and you need to delete those old dbsqlite3.dlls and the related entries from Database_Drivers.txt to fix your system.. Anyway, I would prefer scripting to access and query the database :-) Viktoras william humphrey wrote: Please I still need the new logon and password to use in the database query builder for SQLite if anyone knows it. THanks for the help Bill ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: libURLDownloadToFile stops downloading on status = requested
Thanks Sarah, Dave, with your help problem is solved. It was socket timeout, indeed... So I set the socketTimeoutInterval to 30. Now everything works as expected. Best regards Viktoras ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: libURLDownloadToFile stops downloading on status = requested
Whoops, extra zero moved the whole thing to Mars ;-) Well, anyway the point is that it works now. For some reason delay between requested and the actual loading of data is still about 15-20 sec. But once it starts, it goes fast. Viktoras Klaus Major wrote: Hi friends, Am 27.10.2007 um 21:03 schrieb Andre Garzia: is that the mars rovers external people been talking about? On 10/27/07, Dave Cragg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 27 Oct 2007, at 17:26, viktoras didziulis wrote: ... So I set the socketTimeoutInterval to 30... ;-) What are you doing, Viktoras, where a 30 timeout is expected. Have you got an ISP on Mars? With envy Dave LOL :-D Wonderful guys, you made my day! Best from germany Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de New page: KM, bassplayer :-) http://www.major-k.de/bass ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
libURLDownloadToFile stops downloading on status = requested
Created an updater for my application and now stuck with a problem - libURLDownloadToFile freezes while attempting to download 4 Mb size Revolution stack from my own website. libURLSetStatusCallback returns requested and here it stops for eternity. Server log contains no errors but file is not being downloaded. What could be a possible reason for this? I would expect Revolution's internet library to return at least error, timeout or empty on failure, but it simply stops at requested point. Does not hang, crash, whatsoever - just stops downloading the file... Besides, it works with html or any other smaller text files and it worked a few days ago with that stack before it reached 4 Mb size ..-_ Scripts are as simple (paths changed) as: on mouseUp libURLDownloadToFile http://www.myserver.net/hm/update.bin,update.tmp,downloadComplete; libURLSetStatusCallback showStatus, the long ID of me end mouseUp on showStatus theURL,theStatus put theURL theStatus into fld fStatus of stack Updater end showStatus Would I deliberately change url to any nonexisting filename on server, it returns error as expected. any good ideas or suggestions are very welcome :-) Viktoras ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Preference Files on Linux
Hi, Bridger user specific configuration files on Linux systems are stored in the user's home directory in a file that starts with '.' character (a dot file). If an application needs to create more than one dot file then they should be placed in a subdirectory with a name starting with a ’.’ character, (a dot directory). In this case the configuration files should not start with the ’.’ character. Applications must never create or require special files or subdirectories in the root directory. Other locations in the FHS hierarchy provide more than enough flexibility for any package. Check http://www.pathname.com/fhs/ for more answers. Best! Viktoras Bridger Maxwell wrote: Where is the standard place for preference files to be stored on a Linux machine? Also, where is the right place to store externals when installing? Thank You, Bridger Maxwell www.FieryFerret.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Moving Rev apps to the web (why isn't this on the horizon?)
May a subset of Revolution engine implemented in JAVA solve the problem? Besides, no need to use plugins - Java (JVM) is omnipresent today and crossplatform... Viktoras Derek Bump wrote: Sannyasin Sivakatirswami wrote: Andre told me about http://www.extjs.com ... I might end up spending a lot more time using that app! Now this is what I'm talking about! Something like Ext JS should be available for Revolution. The ability to create a stack, and then embed it within a web page. I can just imagine the possibilities of something like this (except I'd have to use Ext JS to do it). Derek Bump Dreamscape Software http://www.dreamscapesoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Moving Rev apps to the web (why isn't this on the horizon?)
another way to go could be expanding Revolution's functionality. First by describing something like Document Object Model for Revolution stacks. Defining structure (objects, nesting, properties), formatting (stylesheets), function (scripts). Then implementing it in any sort of xml/css/scripts configuration. From this point on one would be able to directly translate to corresponding objects, structures and formating of other xml based formats like XHTML/CSS/jscript, or SVG, or anything else... This would not require tackling with Revolution internals in any way, so can be accomplished by anyone motivated highly enough to do this :-) Viktoras Derek Bump wrote: It may, but I feel it would still require a conversion. And after thinking about this issue overnight I am seeing more on the side of Richard and others regarding the cost and timeline for implementing such a feature. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Splash Screen Launcher
Thanks Sean for reminding about the existence of the on startup handler ! I used to catch all openStack and closeStack in each and every stack of my apps. Now have to chant on startup, on startup, on startup so next time I code I would not forget this :-). However it seems that on startUp will not work if you are launching your app from within Rev IDE, so one may still test things with on openStack before turning this into on startup handler. John, I also use this wait 2 sec for the end users to 'enjoy' my splashscreens too :-). There is one more trick for eye-candiness. An example stack with similar effect was posted to this list some time before, but, sorry, now I can't remember who did this (?..). 1) in property inspector set the Float above everything of splash stack to true. 2) Align both stacks on top of each other. 3) Then set the script of splashscreen stack to anything like that: on openStack #change handle to on startup in a compiled app go stack thatOtherStack set the blendlevel of me to 0 wait 1 sec repeat with i = 1 to 50 set the blendlevel of me to 2*i wait 2 ticks end repeat end openStack Now the spashscreen smoothly dissolves leaving thatOtherStack alone. I tried also hide me with visual effect dissolve, but for some reason it does not work for stacks :-(. Viktoras ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revBrowser and spaces in URLs
try replacing empty spaces in the url with %20 viktoras Henk van der Velden wrote: Hi Eric, I've tried that already, but without succes. Urlencode turns pdtex 1-2.jpg into pdtex+1-2.jpg. However this doesn't display the file and it doesn't produce an error message either. In the mean time I've tested this on Win XP and there all works fine. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Splash Screen Launcher
Hi Mark, 1) create 2 stacks: one is going to be your launcher splashscreen app, the other - stack to be run via the splashscreen; 2) in stack inspector for the launcher stack set Stack Files pointing to that other stack; 3) in the launcher stack's script editor write: on openStack go stack thatOtherStack set the visible of me to false end openStack 4) compile the launcher stack; 5) create a button on that other stack; 6) set the script of that button to: on mouseUp save this stack end mouseUp 7) set the script of that other stack to: on closeStack quit #to make sure closing the stack closes entire application and not just this stack end closeStack That's it. Should work now. Viktoras Mark Greenberg wrote: I need to make a tiny standalone that will launch a stack file so that the user, who doesn't have Rev, can save changes in the stack. I've done this years ago, but, for the life of me, can't figure out how I did it. Probably all I need is the script command that will start up the stack file. Thanks in advance, Mark Greenberg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Splash Screen Launcher
correction for the launcher's handler: on openStack hide me in 1 sec go stack thatOtherStack end openStack Hi Mark, 1) create 2 stacks: one is going to be your launcher splashscreen app, the other - stack to be run via the splashscreen; 2) in stack inspector for the launcher stack set Stack Files pointing to that other stack; 3) in the launcher stack's script editor write: on openStack go stack thatOtherStack set the visible of me to false end openStack ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Web-based Application in Revolution
i guess problem with multiple instances can be solved by using Apache sqlite module modsqlite which adds db server functionality to the Apache web server. It resides in memory all the time, so no new instances are initiated, no application startup overheads and cash is not stressed... What rocks is the possibility to access sqlite databases directly over HTTP like http://localhost/test?db=/tmp/foo.dbq=select+*+from+test However because of the security issues database access is possible only from and on the localhost. This means that you will not be able to do http://mysite.com/test?db=..., but you can easily do http://localhost/test?db=... from any cgi application without running an external database server. More info on http://modsqlite.sourceforge.net/ Viktoras ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: latest rev newsletter - database stack
Hi Peter, it is not a good idea to run anything from desktop if you are on Windows. I sort of remember having this problem with some stacks of mine. Moving it to C:/anyfolder should solve the problem. Then execute set the defaultdirectory to C:/anyfolder to make sure the app makes a mess here and not in the Revolution's root. Viktoras ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: serverside relay script
actually me too use server side Perl script to communicate with desktop
application created in rev and a MySQL database on a server. First of
all it is actually the only secure way to do this, because leaving mysql
port open for everybody is a highly UNSECURE and unrecommended practice.
Besides using the relay srcipt one gains additional control over the
communication between the db the client. In my case queries had to be
limited to SELECT only with user passwords. Additionally it filters out
some potentially dangerous commands like drop. User must post two
parameters to communicate with the database: q.pl?p=[password]q=[sql
query] and as a result gets back the resultset in form of tab delimited
text. The Perl script is:
#! /usr/bin/perl -wT
use strict;
use CGI qw(:standard);
use DBI;
print header;
my $sth;
my $q=param('q');
my $p=param('p');
my @line;
if ($p eq password_goes_here)
{
unless ($q=~m/update|delete|alter |insert|truncate|drop
|modify|create|\0|use |set |values\(|check | key /i)
{
my $dbh =
DBI-connect(DBI:mysql:database=db_name:host=localhost,db_user,db_password)
or die $DBI::errstr\n;
$sth = $dbh-prepare($q);
$sth-execute();
while (my @line = $sth-fetchrow_array)
{
if (@line) {print join(,@line).\n;}
}
$sth-finish();
$sth = $dbh-disconnect();
}
else
{
print \err.#1000: Access denied; #Wrong password
}
}
else
{
print \err.#1001:\$p\ Access denied; #Potentially dangerous commands
in query
}
exit 0;
and the clientside Revolution function (stack's script) is as simple as:
function Q vQ
local myServer
local myData
put http://dommain.net/cgi-bin/q.pl; into myServer
put p=authentication password q= URLencode(vQ) into myData
post myData to URL myServer
wait 1 sec
if it is not empty then
return it
else
return No matches found or timeout
exit to top
end if
end Q
Now we can send any sql select statement or multiple statements and get
back the result from any handler using:
get Q(SELECT * FROM invasions)
It works, though sometimes timeouts happen...
All the best!
Viktoras
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proportional resizing group of graphics
is there any property that allows proportional resizing of grouped graphics when group's size changes. Or all one can do is setting width and height of each and every graphic within the group from within a script ? Making a world map with countries represented by polygons. Now trying to figure out what is the best way to make it zoomable :-) Best regards Viktoras ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: proportional resizing group of graphics
Thanks, Bjoernke! I naively expected an existing but yet undiscovered possibility for the group and its contents to behave like window on resize by setting properties in geometry manager. So the answer turned out to be no-no - need scripting for this... Actually the map contains European, North African and Levantine countries and then oceans and continents for the rest of the world. As a backdrop I use public domain map from the CIA factbook converted to png (originally it is in pdf): https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/docs/refmaps.html There was an idea about extraction of country polygons from shapefile - but then these have to be thinned, reprojected to match my backdrop (which is in Robinson projection) , etc, etc, etc... Finally I ended up drawing polygons manually - well, couple of days of work, not too long. Map's stack communicates with a database and either shows or hides polygons whose identifiers are fetched from the database in a query result like: repeat foreach item identifier in dbOut set the visible of graphic identifier to true end repeat of course all the polygons have to be switched off before this in another cycle. That's all to it... Now trying to smoothly and eye-candilly (with zoom out/in animation) switch perspective from Europe to Entire world and vice versa without messing the polygons on the map. Thanks again for your help and Regards! Viktoras Björnke von Gierke wrote: Any chance of sharing the country generation code? I am trying to generate random maps myself. Resizing polygons of unknown size, all in the same aspect is a somewhat complicated matter. Here some random thoughts of mine: You could multiply all dimensions by a modifier, and then the original location by the same multiplier: put the loc of graphic 1 into theLoc set the width of graphic 1 to the width of graphic 1 div 2 set the height of graphic 1 to the height of graphic 1 div 2 set the Loc of graphic 1 to item 1 of theLoc div 2, item 2 of theLoc div 2 If you want to size them to an arbitrary size, you need to know the total width and height of all polygons combined, and then find out what ratio the new total size produces (If you don't need perfect precision, you can also group all your polygons, and get the size of that group, which will give you an approximation of the size of all polygons combined): put 100 into oldWidth put 50 into oldHeight put 40 into newWidth -- 40/100= 0.4 (ratio) -- 0.4 * 50 = 20 (newHeight) put round(newWidth / oldWidth * oldHeight) into newHeight If you want the result to be pixel precise, it's best to store the points of the polygons in a multiple of any actually shown size, to reduce rounding/trunctuation problems. If you have AnimationEngine from Malte, you can use the aspect... handlers. For speed, lock screen once then set all polygons. Alternatively, you can get the points of your polygon, multiply all entries by your ratio, and then set the points of the polygon to that. This might be faster then resizing visual objects (untested). Hope this will get you thinking (and that I haven't made any grave thinking errors) Bjoernke On 29 Sep 2007, at 14:20, viktoras didziulis wrote: is there any property that allows proportional resizing of grouped graphics when group's size changes. Or all one can do is setting width and height of each and every graphic within the group from within a script ? Making a world map with countries represented by polygons. Now trying to figure out what is the best way to make it zoomable :-) Best regards Viktoras ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
webcams and Rev
...by the way, how do we access webcams through Revolution? Any hints? Best wishes Viktoras ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revBrowser or revGoURL?
If you are on MS windows, one option is to load your tests in a separate hta window. To do this first create an empty html file template and save it with .hta extension, then insert the following tag into the head section of the html (right after title section): HTA:APPLICATION ID=whatever ICON= APPLICATIONNAME=write app name here VERSION = 1 SHOWINTASKBAR=yes BORDER=thick BORDERSTYLE=normal SINGLEINSTANCE=yes SYSMENU=yes WINDOWSTATE=normal MAXIMIZEBUTTON=yes MINIMIZEBUTTON=yes CAPTION=yes CONTEXTMENU=yes INNERBORDER=no NAVIGABLE=yes SCROLL=no SCROLLFLAT=yes SELECTION=no everything else is like in an ordinary html document, including javascript and css. So either put your tests right there (it can be run from a website too), or additionally create a frame or an iframe where you load your tests in. In this case the iframe should contain a few additional properties: src=http://tests.html; application=yes trusted = yes. If you store this hta file locally, then tests can be loaded and executed in the iframe. I am not experienced with revBrowser though... One more way would be to load the tests in a popup window using javascript like this: a href=# onClick='window.open(test1.html, test, toolbar=0, status=0, top=1, left=100, height=50, width=500);'test1/a Maybe someone will provide better alternatives... Regards! Viktoras Sharon Stamps wrote: Hello all, I am looking at two possible ways to approach a requested feature...I am working with ESL teachers and they are using a service to create a grammar test - an HTML javaScript test. They would like to use these pre-created tests in conjunction with a login and would also like to make sure the students cannot navigate from the test or see the address of the test. So, my questions... 1. I tried to work with revBrowser but was unable to get the javaScript to work. Is there a way to get javaScript to function in revBrowser like it does in the web browser? 2. Can I call the file to open in the web browser using revGoURL but make sure the navigation bar isn't visible and prevent students from navigating away from the test? Answers to these questions and/or any other suggestions/solutions would be much appreciated! I am still wrapping my mind around all of Rev's internet capabilities and I'm sure I've missed something... Thanks! Sharon ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Well guess what? Guess what? Congratulations and Welcome!
Yah! One more important fix is fixed unicode character mapping issues for a few languages (including my native) on Windows. Thanks and all the best! Viktoras Peter Alcibiades wrote: Yes, its 2.9 Beta for Linux. It will not be necessary to say more. It will not be possible anyway, since I'm off to play with it. This is great news, thanks and congratulations to everyone. Peter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How am I supposed to answer a Post???
afair there is a size limit for a message, so if it is a large post it may not get through. Also be sure to send it in plain text - no html, attachments whatsoever... Sometimes it just takes time - the record delay of one of my messages was approx 1 hour after sending! Viktoras Len Morgan wrote: How exactly am I supposed to answer on this list? I asked a question this morning, recieved a reply from Eric. I tried to clarify my question and it hasn't shown up on the mail archives. I tried to send it twice. I'm using RE: and the original subject of the question. What am I doing wrong? I get the digest version and I'm using the address at the top of the digest emails. Do I HAVE to receive individual emails (most on subjects that don't interest me) in order to engage in a conversation on a problem? len morgan ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: including images from standard library...
Thanks Sarah for the reply! Seems the only option is to copy images from standard library to the actual stack before using them. Thanks again. Best regards Viktoras Sarah Reichelt wrote: I use Revolution 2.6.1 to build executables (for Windows, MacOSX and Linux) that use images from Revolution's own standard image library. In a script images are referred to using their numeric id. Everything works within the IDE, but these images do not appear in the compiled application. How can I enforce the images from the standard library be imported during compilation of a stack ? Or is manual placement of these standard images on a stack the only way to do this? There used to be an option in the standalone builder to include these standard images, but that disappeared a while ago. It always seemed a bit extravagant to include every image when you on;y needed one or two anyway. My preference is to place the images in my stack, give them a high ID number so they cannot conflict with any standard icons, then hide them. After that your buttons can use them as icons whenever needed. Some people like to make a 2 card stack with all the images on the 2nd card, or to make a sub-stack that contains all their images. If you do either of these, then you don't have to hide them. I guess it just depends how many images you need to deal with. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
including images from standard library...
Hi, I use Revolution 2.6.1 to build executables (for Windows, MacOSX and Linux) that use images from Revolution's own standard image library. In a script images are referred to using their numeric id. Everything works within the IDE, but these images do not appear in the compiled application. How can I enforce the images from the standard library be imported during compilation of a stack ? Or is manual placement of these standard images on a stack the only way to do this? Best wishes Viktoras ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Inserting images as BLOBs - any way to avoid using base64encode?
Hi Terry, it is too easy to extract images from sqlite database unless they are encrypted somehow. So if you simply store them in the database as blobs, they wont be protected from stealing. Alternative way to go is to store images in an encrypted stack as custom properties (instead of using a folder) and store names of these properties in the database. Viktoras Terry Judd wrote: Thanks Andre - I've used that sort of approach in the past but the guys providing the content on this project are very protective of their stuff (images) and a 'real' database seems the best option. Regards, Terry... Terry, why not keeping the images as external files and putting a field in the database with the file path? this would lead to databases with less chunk in it since to use the images you'd have to output them to files anyway. something like this: Hard Drive Image ID Table My Database myImage.jpg - Record that match id to file -- field image_id This is a simple solution where you use a intermediary table to match id's with files, this way if you change a file name or path, you just need to update one table entry and not all your database entries that deal with that file. This makes easy to reconnect lost media files if things move around in the Hard Drive. I would not put media files inside SQL Databases. Best Andre ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
data stream processing
Hi. I have a console application that constantly spews out numbers at a rate of 3 numbers per second. The task is to read the number and display it in a field, then as soon as the next number arrives it should replace the field's contents with new number visualise it graphicaly and so on ad infinitum in realtime... I can't figure it out - Revolution expects the data stream coming from outside will end at some point and therefore waits. But the process is in fact never ending. Is there a way to handle this kind of constant data stream in Revolution ? Best wishes Viktoras ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The Ancient Art of the Animated GIF
I frequently use a minimalistic unfreez (Windows): http://www.whitsoftdev.com/unfreez/ Its free. Simply drag your images into, set or unset loop animation and frame delays (in cs) and save... Works like a charm :-) Viktoras Mike Hughes wrote: I know Animated GIF's probably seem a little arcane to many on this list however for me they work brilliantly in one of my projects. Almost brilliantly, that is. Quite simply, I'd like to create animated GIF's that use transparency. There are a few freebie apps on the Mac that do poor jobs creating them. Then there are tools like Fireworks and Adobe ImageReady. These apps allow me to create exactly the Animated GIF's I need and that render perfectly in a web browser. But when I import them to Revolution, they run at hyperspeed and show strange areas of transparency. Can anyone point me in the direction of either a solution for the Fireworks/Adobe ImageReady problem or towards a competent GIF creator liked by Revolution (Mac or Windows)? Thanks! Mike _ Don't get caught with egg on your face. Play Chicktionary! http://club.live.com/chicktionary.aspx?icid=chick_hotmailtextlink2 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Google code search
Anyone tried this: http://www.google.com/codesearch ? I was not able to find anything in Revolution, but at least they say everybody can submit their code in any language here: http://www.google.com/codesearch/addcode?hl=en Best wishes! Viktoras ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Funny folk joining Yahoo Groups
Does this mean that Yahoo groups are safer than Google ? Are there any other groups service providers comparable to Yahoo? Viktoras Stephen Barncard wrote: complete email addresses are obfuscated on Yahoo. sqb On 24 Jul 2007, at 14:21, Mikey wrote: in Google Groups you can set new members to have their posts moderated so that they can't pull that kind of crap. By the time the messages get moderated and the user removed from the group they've already harvested the email addresses of everyone who posted to the list since they joined. :-( Ian ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: More Free Icons
Thanks Richmond! and here are even more free icons: http://tango.freedesktop.org/Tango_Desktop_Project http://interfacelift.com/icons-mac/ http://www.famfamfam.com/lab/icons/ http://www.kde-look.org/index.php?xsortmode=highpage=0 Best wishes Viktoras Richmond Mathewson wrote: What a cheap-jack: I'm always on the look out for free stuff. This lot require a link back to their website, but apart from that the icons are free: http://fasticon.com/freeware/ worth a look! sincerely, Richmond Mathewson A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. ___ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
paintCompression and speed
Any pointers on how paintCompression works... Dictionary says: When an image is changed with a paint tool, it is recompressed the next time you leave the card it's on. Is this also true if imageData was directly updated - i.e. image gets compressed next time I leave the card it is on, isn't it? Or is image recompressed each time its imageData gets updated ? If so, likely RLE is the fastest method to choose or is it possible to disable paintCompression for images to get more speed for image updates or RLE is the only option to go ? Or if imageData and not the actual image is what is displayed on screen, then may paintCompression have no impact on how fast imageData is being redrawn. Best wishes Viktoras ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: paintcompression and speed
Thanks Wilhelm! Viktoras ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Silverlight - Comments?
for me it seems more like enhancement of browser-side scripting capabilities. Formerly MS Explorer was limited with jscript and VBscript. With silverlight one can use Javascript (well, now they call it AJAX...), Python, Ruby, whatever else for client-side scripting. I remember Netscape allowed scripting in both Javascript and Perl (perlscript) already in the second half of the XXth century ;-). Viktoras Stephen Barncard wrote: Well, they have a mac plugin...but it crashed twice. It is a beta. My question is... WHY...yet another video 'standard'? Hasn't this all been done? Micro$oft: Silverlight... pretty cool! Wish it were Revolution! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: some stuff about languages and web dev. Re: OT: Silverlight - Comments?
Thanks for correcting me Andre! It is just when I opened http://silverlight.net/ and saw familiar titles (.NET, AJAX, VB, C#, Python and Ruby) + integrates with existing web applications so ..delivering of high quality video to all major browsers... went to the second plan as it is at the very end of the introduction. Does this mean that Microsoft now openly competes with Adobe ? However that's interesting to see Microsoft becoming more and more a cross platform player recently... I tend to agree with your post about the bubble of in-browser web apps. It is true and correct from developers position. However I guess the situation may be quite different on users front. People like browsers, they are used to them - when you mention Internet, the browsers archetype is the first thing to associate with it because the browser is such a flexible thing where you can write http://etc.com of your choice and something will definitely pop out with flash, AJAX whatever - user don't cares. It works, they are playing flash games (without knowing what the heck that flash is...), reading newspapers, buying things there, managing their bank accounts, and so on... And many of them are in panic when they need to install new application into their PCs. They are scared because of security concerns or if something goes wrong who is going to fix my machine?... So the bubble may not explode as we expect. One may extrapolate that future browsers 10 years from now will be even more suitable for application deployment then they are now. But future is unpredictable... Best wishes Viktoras Andre Garzia wrote: Viktoras, I think you're mistaken, silverlight is an alternative to flash so it's main point is to allow interactive vector animation. The language used for programming silverlight is not important, the important part is the feature set that will be bundled. The strongest point about Flash is not ActionScript (or whatever they call it) but the fact that it is present everywhere and that it allows good interactive animations. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Paste into field issue (cross platform unicode library)
there exists a crossplatform C/C++ and Java Unicode Globalization library (being used by sqlite very recently) - ICU: http://www.icu-project.org/ May it be of some use to RunRev people ? Viktoras J. Landman Gay wrote: Well...yes and no. If Rev were just a Mac app, then they could use the Apple libraries (that's what HC did.) Or if it were just a Windows app, they could use Windows libraries (which are different.) And then there's the 'nix issues too, and I'm not sure exactly what's available there. At any rate, RR needs to pretty much write (or adapt) their own libraries for this so that it will go cross platform for everybody and integrate well with the field object. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Need for Speed (databases)
sharing the info on how to use sqlite in memory databases from within Revolution. Just tested in on my Rev, it works, so it may be useful for you too. Say we have my.db database file. We wish to load it as an in memory database to increase query performance. Here is the algorithm in SQL: #first creating an in memory db sqlite3 :memory: ATTACH 'my.db' AS cpDb #now repeat the sql string below for each table in the attached cpDb to copy all of them into memory CREATE TABLE myTable AS SELECT * FROM cpDb.myTable ... DETTACH cpDb Ready to use. Now the former my.db file is loaded as in-memory database. This provides a big performance gain for complex queries! So in Rev you would do: put revOpenDatabase(sqlite,:memory:) into dbID revExecuteSQL dbID, ATTACH 'C:/my.db' AS cpDb repeat for each line myTable in dbTables #assuming dbTables contains a list of tables in the database revExecuteSQL dbID, CREATE TABLE :1 AS SELECT * FROM cpDb.:1, myTable end repeat Do not forget to close the database (revCloseDatabase dbID) before creating a new one. As far as I understand SQLite permits multiple in memory databases, so if you do not close the previous database and create new one you are likely to waste your RAM. Best wishes Viktoras ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Wireframe animation engine examples?
This may be useful: http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flash/articles/flash_3d.html. Examples are for flash, but same principles may apply for 3D graphics in Revolution too. Viktoras David Bovill wrote: I'd like to take a look at some examples of wire frame animation - for speed and flexibility -are there any knocking around? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Need fore speed...
Rob, use the filter: 1) Modify your table so that each line starts with line number as the first item; 2) Copy the original table variable (say it is called myTable) to tableCopy. Filter modifies contents of variable, so make sure it won't touch the original data; 3) use the filter like this: filter tableCopy with *2267.10* 4) now all lines that contain anything between 2267.1000 and 2267.1099 are stored in tableCopy 5) as these lines contain line numbers too (that's what step 1 was used for), now you can cycle through the 1st item of each line in the result and find line numbers of the original data that matched the criteria: set the itemdelimiter to tab repeat for each line myFilteredLine in tableCopy put item 1 of myFilteredLine into lineNo put line lineNo of myTable into varModifiedLine #modify varModifiedLine contents here put varModifiedLine into line lineNo of myTable end repeat 6) you can put multiple obsMass values and corresponding modifications into a variable (e.g. varObsMass) as tab delimited list: *2267.10* modified_string_1 *2267.11* modified_string_2 ... *2271.16* modified_string_n and then cycle through each pair of pepMass value and a corresponding modification string: set the itemdelimiter to tab repeat for each line myConstraintsLine in varObsMass put item 1 of myConstraintsLine into varConstraint put item 2 of myConstraintsLine into varModifiedLine put myTable into tableCopy filter newVar with varConstraint repeat for each line myFilteredLine in tableCopy put item 1 of myFilteredLine into lineNo put varModifiedLine into line lineNo of myTable end repeat end repeat Best wishes! Viktoras Beynon, Rob wrote: Some questions - is there advantage in sorting the list by mass first? Would I gain speed by using integer arithmetic (is that even possible?) or by matching the numbers as strings? And most importantly.. Is there an elegant rev way of handling this that I don't even know about?! Thanks Rob Prof R J Beynon[h] Proteomics and Functional Genomics Group Faculty of Veterinary Science University of Liverpool Crown Street, Liverpool L69 7ZJ Phone: +44 151 794 4312 Fax: +44 151 794 4243 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.liv.ac.uk/pfg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Need fore speed...
one more alternative - works very fast - use sqlite in-memory database: 1) download sqlite3 command-line executable 2) run shell (cmd on windows) and create an in-memory database by executing: sqlite3 :memory: 3) assuming your data consists of 4 fields (columns) that are tab delimited and stored in file table.csv type or copy paste and execute the following commands in your sqlite3 session: create table myTable (a varchar, b varchar, pepMass float, d integer); .separator \t .import table.csv myTable 4) Now all you need to do is to store a list of update statements like this in text file (lets name it q.sql): UPDATE myTable SET a='whatever', b='whatever', d='100' WHERE pepMass BETWEEN 2267. AND 2267.; UPDATE myTable SET a='whatever', b='whatever', d='1000' WHERE pepMass BETWEEN 2268. AND 2268.; and 5) execute the following sql string in sqlite: .read q.sql 6) Thats it. Now you can get your result: .output myTable.csv SELECT * FROM myTable; .output stdout Here you can use Revolution to create a list of multiple UPDATES :-). But I do not know how to use in memory sqlite database directly from Revolution :-(. Viktoras . ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Need fore speed...
Yest it is at http://www.sqlite.org/cvstrac/wiki?p=FtsTwo full text search with recently added complete Unicode support via ICU (http://www.icu-project.org/)... Viktoras David Bovill wrote: Interesting I read somewhere that Google added full text search to sqlLite codebase recently (last 6 months)? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: launch app from browser
The only way to get this working would be using HTA. Note, it works on MS windows (98 and up) only. It is an html file that starts like this: html head titlePut your title here/title HTA:APPLICATION ID=ID of the app ICON=appicon.ico APPLICATIONNAME=Name of the app VERSION = 1 SHOWINTASKBAR=yes BORDER=thick BORDERSTYLE=normal SINGLEINSTANCE=yes SYSMENU=yes WINDOWSTATE=normal MAXIMIZEBUTTON=yes MINIMIZEBUTTON=yes CAPTION=yes CONTEXTMENU=yes INNERBORDER=no NAVIGABLE=yes SCROLL=no SCROLLFLAT=yes SELECTION=no /head body a href=myapp.exeClick here to launch the myapp.exe/a /body /html Save this file as test.hta. Thats it. HTA's have same restrictions as any other applications on windows. Now you can use javascript (jscript), vbscript, activex components and whatever you need... If there are frames in the hta application then each frame must be allowed to get access to system by setting it to application and trusted like application=yes trusted=yes i.e.like: IFRAME src=res://resources.dll/GUI/my_app name=main_fr application=yes trusted=yes width=100% height=97% marginwidth=0 marginheight=0 frameborder=0 scrolling=auto/IFRAME Viktoras ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: launch app from browser
David, trap reloadStack message: on reloadStack end reloadStack this will prevent two main stacks with the same name from being open simultaneously. Best wishes Viktoras David wrote: The question I have is if you want to get the html link to open a rev document - either by your application or the IDE - it seems on tests on OSX to open multiple instances of the application and not let the application open multiple stacks. I know this can be got around using text files to implement locks - and I remember some issue and I think IDE or engine enhancements to work with these issues - but can't find them :) How do you get an html link to a .rev file not to open multiple instances of the app? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: What I did with Rev last night - few lines of code for graphical file/folder/volume navigator
Didn't expect programming an embedded volumes/folders/files navigator can be so easy. If you need something like this in your application, use the source below - just copy/paste the 3 handlers from this message into a scrolling field. In object inspector check the lock text and the list behavior of the field to true or execute: set the lockText of fld yourField to true set the listBehavior of fld yourField to true in the message box. Then click the field with mouse and start using it. on mouseDown if me is not empty then pass mouseDown else put the folders return return the files into me end if drawList end mouseDown on selectionChanged local myLine if .. is in the selectedtext then set the defaultfolder to (the defaultfolder / char 3 to -1 of the selectedtext) else if char 2 to 3 of the selectedtext =then #insert your handler for the selected files here answer file: the defaultfolder / char 4 to -1 of the selectedtext else if : is in the selectedtext then set the defaultfolder to (char 3 to -1 of the selectedtext /) else set the defaultfolder to (the defaultfolder / char 3 to -1 of the selectedtext) end if drawList end selectionChanged on drawList local myLine local flag put 0 into flag lock screen put the defaultfolder return the volumes return the folders return return the files into me repeat with i = 1 to the number of lines in me put line i of me into myLine if myLine is empty then put 1 into flag next repeat else if flag = 1 then #files put before line i of me set the imageSource of char 1 of line i of me to 201066 else #folders or volumes putbefore line i of me set the imageSource of char 1 of line i of me to 210087 end if end if end repeat set the imageSource of char 1 of line 1 of me to 210088 set the textStyle of line 1 of me to bold unlock screen end drawList ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: What I did with Rev last night - few lines of code for graphical file/folder/volume navigator
Whoops, Thunderbird reformatted the e-mail, so likely you won't be able to get it running after copying/pasting the code from my previous message. Here is a sample stack with a field using these 3 short handlers if anyone is interested: go stack URL http://www.ekoinf.net/File_browser.rev; feel free to reuse it :-) All the best Viktoras viktoras didziulis wrote: Didn't expect programming an embedded volumes/folders/files navigator can be so easy. If you need something like this in your application, use the source below - just copy/paste the 3 handlers from this message into a scrolling field. In object inspector check the lock text and the list behavior of the field to true or --- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: What I did with Rev last night
Hi! here are few more examples of recreational programming with Rev :-). One stack is an experiment to see whether the well known game of chaos where seemingly random process creates a deterministic outcome (sierpinski fractal) produces similar results for any configuration of points or just for the triangle. It turned out that for shapes other than triangle it produces random clouds of points, so the triangle is special. It is also an alternative random way to draw a line between any two points in space. You can draw and see these fractals and clouds there: go stack URL http://ekoinf.net/chaos_game2.rev; Another stack was an attempt to reproduce a few graphic algorithms in Revolution. For water ripples (like in java applet at http://www.neilwallis.com/java/water.html ) Revolution engine unfortunately was too slow. But for the fire effect it performed reasonably fast for small images (100x100 pixels). So I created a completely useless stack where one can load any picture which is then automatically resized to 100x100 and used as a cooling map for fire algorithm so that animated burning fire patterns emerge in a small 100x100 image area nearby. go stack URL http://ekoinf.net/fire3.rev; When loaded it contains 2 snapshots of an image and fire with cooling patterns from the image. To see the animated fire you would have to load your own image by clicking Fire!!! button. To stop the show click shift or mouseclick on any of the 2 images in the stack. One more interesting algorithm to test on Rev would be Warp Map (http://freespace.virgin.net/hugo.elias/graphics/x_warp.htm). I saw it implemented in C++ and Rebol (where surprisingly worked reasonably fast on large images). But recently found more catching topic where Revolution will be very useful - conversion of TFT monitors to holographic screens. Well, actually not really holographic but rather stereoscopic (no glasses required) where image is formed from parts of 2 images and 3D object pops-out of in front or beyond the screen. All what is needed is a high resolution printer, transparency and a tool to calculate and produce parallax barrier mask based on monitor resolution and pixel size (and then printed onto a transparency) and calculate a gap between the LCD monitor and the barier. The tool will also combine images suitable for viewing within such a system and be able to make 1 pixel offset adjustments to make images match with parallax barrier mask. Going to use hints as in http://www.lucente.us/career/syn3d/ps5.html and http://www.osa-opn.org/include/pdf_include/3DWorld_Part4.pdf All the best! Viktoras J. Landman Gay wrote: --- It is so satisfying to be able to write whatever I need. Anyone else done little personal stacks with Rev lately? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Converting Image to Line Drawing
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/digitalphotography/prophoto/lineart mspx ---Original Message--- From: Polydiam.com Date: 07/02/07 16:35:19 To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Converting Image to Line Drawing Hi I'm looking to make a small application that converts an image to a line drawing. Any help would be appreciated. Jason ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Converting Image to Line Drawing
the very end should be lineart.mspx -Viktoras ---Original Message--- From: Judy Perry Date: 02/07/2007 20:21:22 To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Converting Image to Line Drawing I get a 404 on this. Anybody else? Judy On Mon, 2 Jul 2007, Viktoras Didziulis wrote: http://www.microsoft com/windowsxp/using/digitalphotography/prophoto/lineart mspx ---Original Message--- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AW: The Art of Dissolving Splash Screens
one can stuff almost anything - images, scripts, stylesheets into a dll file and then use these resources through res:// protocol. Occasionally I used Microsoft's HTA (Html application) technology before I found Revolution. It allows to develop an application using html/css/javascript+activex, create the front start.hta that loads and uses all the things (stylesheets, javascripts, bitmaps) on request from whatever.dll like a href= res://mysoft.dll/GUI/SOFT_SQLSQL query/a. Drawback of HTA is that it is MS Windows only and patented by Microsoft, so unlikely to become multiplatform. However Adobe with its AIR somehow managed to overcome patenting issues and is releasing similar thing for all platforms. Viktoras ---Original Message--- From: Scott Kane Date: 29/06/2007 15:43:42 To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: AW: The Art of Dissolving Splash Screens From: Stephen Barncard [EMAIL PROTECTED] I didn't know that. I always thought a Windoze app usually consisted of a bunch of little files. I guess a multi stack project still is with Rev. We call it a file. It is a file. But the file is broken up into segments (header etc). Works exactly the same as a bundle. It's just that we think of it as a file because that's how it's presented to us in the OS. The same can be said for folders (directories). They are no more real than files. ;-) Scott Kane ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
burn, burn ;-)
Just played a little with real-time image manipulation in Rev. Initially tried using arrays, but then the chunk based approach with binary encode/decode seemed to perform faster (strange, have to try arrays again.. ). Here is a small joke-stack in legacy format: go stack url http://ekoinf.net/fire3.rev it burns any selected image :-), click the fire button, choose image and watch it burning. Different patterns emerge depending on image selected. Click the mouse again or press Shift to stop burning. Any ideas on how to make it work reasonably faster (on, say, 1.7 Ghz proc.) so to let it digest larger imagedatas ? :-) Viktoras ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: character to justify text
Hi, you can try adjusting the size of space characters like this: repeat with i=1 to the number of chars in fld fText set the textSize of char x of fText to y end repeat where char x is space character and y is a number between 4 and whatever the upper limit is... If the fixedLineHeight of field is set to true, then the only thing that changes would be the width of space character. The hard point here is to get a length of a text line in pixels so you could calculate the necessary size of space character for each line. As I imagine first you would need to find the longest line in the field and then justify the remaining lines in relation to this maximum. Of course you may try creating an index of all possible characters and their widths for different fonts and sizes, then get the length of line in characters and use the index to sum up the length in pixels... Then find a difference subtracting length of current string from maximum length, counting number of spaces in a line and then calculate what size all space characters should be set to compensate for the difference. In principle not so hard once you know a way to measure absolute length of text string in pixels. All the best! Viktoras ---Original Message--- From: Kay C Lan Date: 27/06/2007 05:43:10 To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: character to justify text On 6/27/07, -= JB =- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem with making a font and then using my own character it would change the character count. Of course I could easily add the character and then subtract it but who knows what other weird things I might find. One thought, if you're going to go to all the trouble of making your own font, is to include several versions of the space character, ie a 3 pixel space, a 4 pixel space, etc etc. Maybe accessible via spacebar = 3px, option+spacebar = 4px, shift+option+spacebar = 5px. Then I assume a simple 'repeat for each' replacing each standard 3px space with a 4px space until you get to the required width, and if you replaced all in a line and it still wasn't wide enough you go on to 5px, 6px etc etc. That way the char count wouldn't change. Just a thought, but then again, the thought of creating a font from scratch seems pretty daunting to me ;-) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: reading CSV text file
In cases like this I usually open the csv with my OpenOffice and save it with record delimiter set to tab and no text delimiter (e.g. ordinary tab delimited file). Then I go to my Revolution studio :-). Otherwise it is a real headache to process the correct csv files as some clever programs also put quotes around text strings only and don't put quotes around numbers etc, etc... You can also load that real csv into mysql and then get it out as tab delimited. SQLite might also be of some help - just put it into the db and get it back with select *. Viktoras ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 06/23/07 00:36:15 To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: reading CSV text file Hi, i have to read a textfile, which is comma separated and contains as text identifier. The item delimiter is , My problem is, i do not know, how can i read the file and detect each item of a line, as the items are sepearated by comma and the textfield/items could contain comma, too. How can i tell Revolution to ignore the comma in the tesxtarea of an item Heres an example line 7722, ,Fuji Cleaning Cartridge fr DLT Streamer, retail,DLT Reinigungskassette fr bis zu 20 Reinigungen nicht fr DLT 1 und VS!,,, BAND,183,Diverse Hersteller,42419,31.03,38.79,35.27,34.48,34.48,34.48 32.66,0.000,0.000,,24 As you can see, some fields/items are included in ,others (the numeric values) are not. The field included in could contain , . Any idea, how i can solve that. I have to mention that in the textfields/items there could be also the as product description e.g. TFT 19 or HDD 2.5 Regards, Matthias ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: the files functions doesn't work correctly withdiacriticalcharacters
Hi Xavier, this may be related to a collection of semi-resolved/partially-fixed (engine unicode support?..) bugs where characters outside of the standard Western European character set are not being translated correctly. I guess it is the same problem that prevents me from developing software in my own native language as revolution does not understand input from my keyboard when set to LT. These issues are fixed for some languages (it was reported for Polish Hungarian, Czech some time ago and now it seems like it is fixed), and not fixed for others. See the quality reports 4677, 441, 1038, 1040, 1358. Look like a long-standing issues with priority downgraded to minor... All the best! Viktoras ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 20/06/2007 16:21:46 To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: the files functions doesn't work correctly withdiacriticalcharacters I think i found the problem: The font (ms sans serif) of the fields in the revVariableWatcher doesn't show the diacriticals as expected!!! The Tahoma font works fine... well, sometimes... set the directory to fld path put the files into fld log -- works great at least in a tahoma field. Which doesn't explain why the filename comparisons dont work yet but the files functions works correctly at least! I changed all the revVariableWatcher's field to Tahoma but the shell's output was still unreadable! So it's the shell! But in the shell (cmd.exe) dir displays correctly !!! ;) Next step was to change the encoding of the shell from the standard 850 western1 codes to 1252. Because i found out meanwhile that when piped to a file dir didn't show the text as expected (sorry rev if i blamed this on you)!!! And with chcp 1252 it did work as expected! But then wabam, I can't get shell to do the right thing now! I need to tell the shell that it needs to do first a chcp 1252 and then in the same shell call, a dir of the folder but ... Only the first line of the shell gets evaluated it seems! This is a serious limitation in this case... And a speed problem since the shell can't be done in rev but needs to be sent via a start.exe then piped out then reinjected in rev in the right chr set... And I thought rev was easy all over! If anyone is interested in multiline shell calls in rev let me know, i'll make a bugzilla... cheers Xa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 20/06/2007 13:42:56: Hi everyone, I have this file scanner that does some file listings and which needs to compare outputs with a shell dir.exe command (in windows 2003). The shell is too slow but it is the only one that shows me which files are DHSM based (offline storage off the main storage). The problem i found is that the shell based dir output works correctly but the runrev the files functions doesn't. The runrev output doesn't translate correctly the diacritical characters such as umlauts, or other german/french style characters. Has anyone seen this and better resolved it? Is there already a bugzilla for this? For the funny part, when i ask in rev if the file is there with the shell's file name output, rev does recognize it but i do a comparison of strings between the shell and rev's the file output, they do not match!!! Meaning that the files functions is not compliant with windows? The shell's codepage is 850 in case anyone wondered. Is there anyway to change the codepage of rev's output? Thanks in advance for any help Regards, Xavier Clearstream Services S.A. 42 Avenue JF Kennedy, L-1855 Luxembourg Socit anonyme is organised with limited liability in the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg RC Luxembourg B 60911. - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. Legally required information for business correspondence/ Gesetzliche Pflichtangaben fuer Geschaeftskorrespondenz: http://deutsche-boerse.com/letterhead END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your
Re: Programming challenge : spelling corrector
By the way, and this is off-topic, except that it is about the coming Perl 6 programming language, the interesting citation: the vision for Perl 6 is more than simply a rewrite of Perl 5. By separating the parsing from the compilation and the runtime, we're opening the doors for multiple languages to cooperate. You'll be able to write your program in Perl 6, Perl 5, TCL, Python, or any other language that there's a parser written for. Interchangable runtime engines let you interpret your bytecode or convert it to something else (e.g., Java, C, or even back to Perl). http://dev.perl.org/perl6/ Wow! Viktoras ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Perl 6 project
By the way, the snapshot of Perl 6 technology (called Parrot) can be downloaded from http://www.parrotcode.org/ Parrot is a virtual machine designed to efficiently compile and execute bytecode for dynamic languages. Parrot currently hosts a variety of language implementations in various stages of completion, including Tcl, Javascript, Ruby, Lua, Scheme, PHP, Python, Perl 6, APL, and a .NET bytecode translator. Thought, this might be of interest to a few on this list (including myself). ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: create field on specific positoin
I do this like that (just copied from an existing app): lock screen create group gLegendKeeper in group gLegend of card mainCard repeat with i=1 to 100 put f i into gName create field gName in group gLegendKeeper of group gLegend of card mainCard set the left of field fName of card mainCard to (myLeft + 22) set the top of field fName of card mainCard to graphicTop end repeat unlock screen note that a new group gLegendkeeper is created to make it easy to delete the created fields when necessary by simply deleting the whole group. All the best Viktoras ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 19/06/2007 09:10:09 To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: create field on specific positoin Hi, i need to create several fields, 3 at a line, from a script. The number of fields depends on the number of lines a textfile contains. Each field then must contain an item of the text file. Excatly said, 3 items of each line of the text file have to be put into the 3 fields. Creating the fields from within the script should be no problem. My problem is, i do not know: How can i place the fields automatically on a specific postion, so i have 3 fields on each line? How would you name them, so they could be accessed later.? e.g. Field_1_3 should mean field from line 1, which contains item 3 from line 1 of the textfile Regards, Matthias ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: create field on specific positoin
whoops, omitted a typo - it should be : lock screen create group gLegendKeeper in group gLegend of card mainCard repeat with i=1 to 30 put f i into fName create field fName in group gLegendKeeper of group gLegend of card mainCard set the left of field fName of card mainCard to (myLeft + 22) set the top of field fName of card mainCard to graphicTop end repeat unlock screen ---Original Message--- From: Viktoras Didziulis Date: 19/06/2007 10:40:20 To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: create field on specific positoin I do this like that (just copied from an existing app): lock screen create group gLegendKeeper in group gLegend of card mainCard repeat with i=1 to 100 put f i into gName create field gName in group gLegendKeeper of group gLegend of card mainCard set the left of field fName of card mainCard to (myLeft + 22) set the top of field fName of card mainCard to graphicTop end repeat unlock screen note that a new group gLegendkeeper is created to make it easy to delete the created fields when necessary by simply deleting the whole group. All the best Viktoras ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 19/06/2007 09:10:09 To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: create field on specific positoin Hi, i need to create several fields, 3 at a line, from a script. The number of fields depends on the number of lines a textfile contains. Each field then must contain an item of the text file. Excatly said, 3 items of each line of the text file have to be put into the 3 fields. Creating the fields from within the script should be no problem. My problem is, i do not know: How can i place the fields automatically on a specific postion, so i have 3 fields on each line? How would you name them, so they could be accessed later.? e.g. Field_1_3 should mean field from line 1, which contains item 3 from line 1 of the textfile Regards, Matthias ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 281 installer problems
Hi, In 2.8.1 annoucement it warned: ..I recommend you do a full install from the downloads page rather than using your update button inside the program, as this version corrects a number of issues with the installer/uninstaller, and you will not see the benefit of this unless you do a full installation... So I did not experienced the problems that you describe. Still there was one problem related with previous installs of SQLite. The way to fix this is described in quality report 5140: http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=5140 All the best Viktoras ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 06/19/07 12:35:03 To: How to use Revolution Subject: 281 installer problems Hi everyone, anyone having problems with the 2.8.1 installer? I had a previous install of 2.8 (gm1, 2, 3, 4 - all too buggy to be used) and decided to test the 2.8.1. First the custom install path c:\app doesn't work. second the default path c:\app\revolution enterprise wont work either! It refuses to install where the old versions is even though the folders are not named the same! 3rd, the installer creates not 46MBs of data as advertised but 90 MBs! Then 4th, the app doesn't launch, when i check, the rev exe is only 32KBs! No wonder it didn't ask me for my license... And when i try do redownload the thing it stalls... And resume downloading doesn't work either! Naturally, the 5th time works but the old folder again is disturbing the install... Finally the install works! Then i try the update in the help menu and it tells me GM2 is available (but the download is still gm1). When i try to update the engine tells me my license is expired! But my license is from 2007!!! WTF? Can someone shed some light on this? Xavier Clearstream Services S.A. 42 Avenue JF Kennedy, L-1855 Luxembourg Soci?t? anonyme is organised with limited liability in the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg RC Luxembourg B 60911. - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. Legally required information for business correspondence/ Gesetzliche Pflichtangaben fuer Geschaeftskorrespondenz: http://deutsche-boerse.com/letterhead END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: strange posting problems
Hi Eddie, there is also size limit for posts (just can't remember the right number) and it should be text-only (no html) message, no attachments. Viktoras ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: puzzeld with database path Was: invalid database path
Hi Tiemo, I have the same trouble on MS Windows with my 2.8.1 studio. Just filled the report: http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=5140 You can add more comments/votes there. All the best! Viktoras ---Original Message--- From: Tiemo Hollmann TB Date: 06/06/2007 11:02:58 To: Revolution mailing list Subject: puzzeld with database path Was: invalid database path Hello all, I got SQLite to run in my XP standalone, but I don't understand why - but I would like to for the next time :-) perhaps someone likes to correct my approach: - In Standalone App Settings I selected: Script Library: Database and Database Support: SQLite - I don't use revSetDatabaseDriverPath (because otherwise my IDE doesn't find the db anymore) - I put revdb.dll and dbsqlite.dll in my standalone directory - I left the dbsqlite3.dll in the directory \Externals\database_drivers\ What I don't understand is: - The standalone builder copied the revdb.dll into the \Externals\ folder - what didn't worked, from where I put it into the root - The standalone builder didn't copy the dbsqlite.dll at all (I took it manually from runtime directory) - It runs only with dbsqlite.dll in the root and dbsqlite3.dll in the subfolder database_drivers - why do I need both and what the heck is dbsqlite3.dll? Thanks for any hints Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: puzzeld with database path Was: invalid database path
By the way, for me compiled application started to work after I copied dbsqlite.dll into Externals/database_drivers and revdb.dll is just where it is supposed to be - in Externals folder. Best! Viktoras ---Original Message--- From: Viktoras Didziulis Date: 06/11/07 12:25:24 To: Revolution mailing list Subject: Re: puzzeld with database path Was: invalid database path Hi Tiemo, I have the same trouble on MS Windows with my 2.8.1 studio. Just filled the report: http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=5140 You can add more comments/votes there. All the best! Viktoras ---Original Message--- From: Tiemo Hollmann TB Date: 06/06/2007 11:02:58 To: Revolution mailing list Subject: puzzeld with database path Was: invalid database path Hello all, I got SQLite to run in my XP standalone, but I don't understand why - but I would like to for the next time :-) perhaps someone likes to correct my approach: - In Standalone App Settings I selected: Script Library: Database and Database Support: SQLite - I don't use revSetDatabaseDriverPath (because otherwise my IDE doesn't find the db anymore) - I put revdb.dll and dbsqlite.dll in my standalone directory - I left the dbsqlite3.dll in the directory \Externals\database_drivers\ What I don't understand is: - The standalone builder copied the revdb.dll into the \Externals\ folder - what didn't worked, from where I put it into the root - The standalone builder didn't copy the dbsqlite.dll at all (I took it manually from runtime directory) - It runs only with dbsqlite.dll in the root and dbsqlite3.dll in the subfolder database_drivers - why do I need both and what the heck is dbsqlite3.dll? Thanks for any hints Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: sqlite question
Hi Peter, go to http://www.sqlite.org/sqlite.html . At the very end of this page there are instructions on using sqlite3 in a shell script. Some time ago I successfully applied these to query my own sqlite3 databases like this: on mouseUp local cSQL local tmpTab put sqlite3 my.db quote field fSQL quote into cSQL replace return with in cSQL set the itemdelimiter to | set the hideconsolewindows to true put shell(cSQL) into tmpTab replace | with tab in tmpTab put tmpTab into fld fOut #here the results go into text field with grids put empty into tmpTab end mouseUp All the best! Viktoras ---Original Message--- From: Peter Alcibiades Date: 28/05/2007 17:51:09 To: How to use Revolution Subject: sqlite question Hi all, I have created an sqlite database with that wonderful tool, sqlitebrowser, and got my data into it by hacking it into a csv import with regular expressions So far so good. Now, how do I connect to it from rev? The revdb commands only seem to work with Mysql. Do I have to go out to the shell for everything and pass sqlite commands to it? Is there any documentation on this stuff anyplace? Note that this is Linux, so there is no altsqlite available nor query builder - this is 2.6.1. Thanks in advance for any hints, however cryptic, Peter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
sqlite in-memory databases
Hi, does anyone know if after I create an in-RAM database using sqlite3 memory and then do for any stored database file: ATTACH db_file AS db_ram does it also load the attached database into RAM or continues to query the attached database as it is (e.g. disk file) ? Any experiences with this? Best wishes Viktoras ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Abode Tools Died -- Back To RunRev!
ImageMagick http://www.imagemagick.org/script/index.php It would be nice to have a direct interface from Rev. However it is also possible to use in batch mode and command line, accessible from many other programing languages and environments (Perl, Python, etc...). All the best! Viktoras ---Original Message--- From: Sivakatirswami Date: 26/05/2007 23:30:04 To: How to use Revolution Subject: Abode Tools Died -- Back To RunRev! It seems with the upgrade to CS3, as some are saying over at the Adobe forums, we have paid for a downgrade Specifically, Adobe dropped ImageReady and it is no longer possible to create and share droplets for photo processing. Sure you can buy Fireworks and learn it's powerful batch processing methods, but then we would need to spend another $2,000 to purchase 20 seats just to let other process photos. (Photoshop's droplets, are still deficient... end of the actions will *not* let you over write existing files without asking...) OK, so, I'm back to Revolution to do what I've wanted to do for years: Process the photos right inside Run Rev. Downsizing, rotating, setting the image data of a new image to the scaled image and saving as jpeg... all works fine... But, I would like to build into the process a few discreet filters I know about the macho photo processing stack that I think (was it Klaus, or some other Big Rev Brain in Europe) made but the interface was a maze of things I would never use (I don't need to turn real photos into Van Gogh! however cool that might be...) What we need is to extract specific filters as discreet tools. right now, all I want is: -- auto levels -- unsharp mask with a specific preset setting. Has anyone done that yet? Extracted such filters as discreet handlers? Sivakatirswami www.himalayanacademy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
how to do .import with revdb_execute (sqlite)?
revdb_execute(dbID,.import ' myFile ' 'Lookup') throws an error: near . syntax error. Same command works from shell with external sqlite installation or from commandline. Is there any other way to import tab delimited file into database table directly through revdb_execute ? Are there any alternative recipes? SQL INSERTs are so much slower, therefore I would prefer .import... Thanks in advance! Viktoras ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Code Signing Anyone?
I'm interested. Write it, please :-). Viktoras ---Original Message--- From: Scott Kane Date: 05/22/07 03:54:20 To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Code Signing Anyone? This pertains to people using Rev to build Windows Stand Alones. In XP SP2 Microsoft started warning you that a download may be unsafe and in the dialog box you get when you open the downloaded file you are warned that it's probably not a good idea to use software from suppliers who are not Trusted If you haven't seen it has a big red icon shield telling you the software has no digital signature and tells you it is from an unknown publisher. It's quite threatening. If the file is signed then you get a nice yellow shield, some warnings but the companies information is displayed (the software company from whom you downloaded the file from) in summary and it all looks much safer. Now - some claim this is just a Microsoft Tax as they license the signing technology to the likes of Verisign (of whom they own a large chunk) and Comodo etc. However in Vista the messages look even nastier and I am pretty sure that this will become even uglier in SP's of Vista yet to come. I sign my executables (installers and program or stand alones) having purchased a certificate. My question is how many people here sign there executables? Would you be interested in an article in the Revolution newsletter about code signing (and how to get a hefty discount on your certificate) ? Scott Kane Nobody can go back and start a new beginning, but anyone can start today and make a new ending. -- Maria Robinson ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Descent FTP Client for Windows?
SmartFTP (http://www.smartftp.com/) ?.. Viktoras ---Original Message--- From: Derek Bump Date: 05/20/07 00:10:06 To: How to use Revolution Subject: OT: Descent FTP Client for Windows? I'm looking for a descent FTP Client for Windows XP. I loved Transmit on the Mac, but I'm unable to find anything that compares to it's ease-of-use. Does anyone have any suggestions? I'm looking for something that supports Drag Drop, Queuing, and Multiple Sockets. Derek Bump Dreamscape Software Compress photos easily with JPEGCompress www.dreamscapesoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution 2.8.1: a 240+ bug fixes/improvements! What about the remaining 1879?
Completely agree with you, Mark! As a relatively new user of Revolution 2 years (with a few software projects completed during this time which would not be possible without Rev) I was also extremely satisfied to see Altuit products eventually integrated into the IDE. Now it is not anymore a buy-in-pieces-puzzle that was very frustrating for me as a newcomer to Rev at that time. I see this as a major quality and end users experience improvement for any newcomer ! Meanwhile I would like to attract few votes for bug 4677, or now it is confirmed and marked as a duplicate of 441 which is partially solved for some languages, but not for mine :-) The problem is that characters outside of the standard Western European character set are not being translated correctly during keyboard entry, therefore I can't do projects in my native and a few other national languages... And bug 3992 - it is confirmed, and is still in the latest release candidate of open beta. If briefly - property inspector loads file contents into wrong unrelated text fields replacing their contents and thus damaging data. If you are new to the IDE you may get deeply depressed after seeing this ;-), later you learn and get used to put url file:etc into field etc and forget that the problem is there. Nevertheless I think it is important. I have also voted for bug 2498. It causes situation where 2 tabbed buttons put on same card do interfere with each other on mouseover event. Not a big tragedy but looks messy (e.g. in a spreadsheet which is a part of a larger application with tabbed buttons)... All the best! Viktoras ---Original Message--- From: Mark Talluto Date: 18/05/2007 09:26:11 To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Revolution 2.8.1: a 240+ bug fixes/improvements! What about the remaining 1879? On May 17, 2007, at 9:19 PM, Bjrnke von Gierke wrote: Of course with such small numbers, one can not really draw a conclusive decision, I think the answer to how successful this release and any other release is will be very subjective. I don't think it is reasonable to expect the bug count to change by a given percentage. I was one of the people that gave this release rave reviews simply because I can see and feel the difference from this version and my previous reliable 2.7.4. I still have bugs that are over 2 years old that have not been fixed. I have bugs that were only days old that did get fixed. In my very subjective measure, 2.8.1 is a huge step forward when I look at the projects I am working on and how they perform. Everyone's mileage will vary when it comes to gaging how significant a given release is. If I am able to produce the commercial projects I am working on then all is good from my perspective. Mark Talluto -- CANELA Software http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 'Community Beta' has lost its way
Something is wrong with Bills e-mail account (server issue?..). When I tried resending my feedback (top 5) on beta, I received mail not delivered in a few days again for both mailboxes... All produced same error: 451 Could not complete sender verify callout (in reply to RCPT TO command) But once I received feedback from programmers at runrev these bugs getting attention, I think now they are being handled anyway... All the best! Viktoras ---Original Message--- From: Heather Nagey Date: 05/14/07 13:11:02 To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: 'Community Beta' has lost its way I'm puzzled that you say you have emailed Bill and not received a reply. In my experience Bill is extremely punctilious about responding to email, and my first reaction would be to ask whether there could be an email issue, maybe somebody's email is getting stuck somewhere? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 'Community Beta' has lost its way
Well, this explains the problem: unfortunately, sender address verification cannot simply be turned on for all email - you are likely to lose legitimate mail from mis-configured systems. You almost certainly will have to set up white lists for specific addresses, or even for entire domains. http://www.postfix.org/ADDRESS_VERIFICATION_README.html As far as I know spammers also use address_verification to make sure they are sending spam to existing mailboxes. Therefore some legitimate domains block these requests to prevent spam... All the best! Viktoras ---Original Message--- From: Viktoras Didziulis Date: 14/05/2007 13:30:41 To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: 'Community Beta' has lost its way Something is wrong with Bills e-mail account (server issue?..). When I tried resending my feedback (top 5) on beta, I received mail not delivered in a few days again for both mailboxes... All produced same error: 451 Could not complete sender verify callout (in reply to RCPT TO command) But once I received feedback from programmers at runrev these bugs getting attention, I think now they are being handled anyway... All the best! Viktoras ---Original Message--- From: Heather Nagey Date: 05/14/07 13:11:02 To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: 'Community Beta' has lost its way I'm puzzled that you say you have emailed Bill and not received a reply. In my experience Bill is extremely punctilious about responding to email, and my first reaction would be to ask whether there could be an email issue, maybe somebody's email is getting stuck somewhere? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Spreadsheet
By the way, here is a list of expressions and functions implemented in sqlite: http://www.sqlite.org/lang_expr.html All the best! Viktoras ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Spreadsheet
Hi David, regarding the formula processing and scripting, in one project I am using sqlite to store and process tables because the SQL92 standard supports things like as well as all major mathematical operators: SELECT a, b, CASE WHEN ab AND a2 THEN 'a is greater' WHEN a=b THEN a+b WHEN ab THEN 'b is greater' ELSE 'unknown' END FROM mytable; SQL95 standard brings SQL even closer to complete programming languages, but it is not yet implemented in litesql which however and luckily is (almost) SQL92 compliant. Anyway I see this as the only way to implement any scripting and formula translation in Revolution, otherwise your end users are likely to smash into the infamous scriptlimit which is 10 lines of Revcode. All the best! Viktoras ---Original Message--- From: David Bovill Date: 12/05/2007 18:17:35 To: How to use Revolution Subject: Spreadsheet I am just starting work on a basic spreadsheet in Rev - I have a few fragments but was wandering if anyone has some work they would be willing to share? The bits I have: 1. altTable like component with headers 2. data model 3. bits to read and write to OpenOffice documents I don't have any GUI or code for viewing, adding and editing formulae, or a general way of taking standard formulae and applying them to cells. Any ideas? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Spreadsheet
Hi Bill, check the Rev documentation (2.8.0) dictionary on scriptLimits and script property: ..when using a standalone application, an object's script property may not be set to a string containing more than ten statements. This limit is set by line 1 of the scriptLimits function. (This does not limit scripts that are already written: standalone applications can run scripts of any length. However, if the standalone attempts to change an object's script property, and the script contains more than the allowable number of statements, the attempt to set the script causes an error.)... It is likely to prevent somebody using Revolution studio to create a competing RAD environment. Unfortunately this also prevents from implementing any kind of scripting, or complex formula translations which would not compete with the RAD in any way. Therefore in order to implement end-user scripting for own products (like allowing user to create decision trees with formulas in nodes) some of us have to resort to other languages via shell or SQL92/95 as alternatives. I guess the most efficient way is to use SQL because of its tight integration with Revolution through its database modules. Best! Viktoras ---Original Message--- From: Bill Date: 13/05/2007 16:07:45 To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Spreadsheet I never heard of this script limit other then in early demos. Can you explain? Also I like the idea of your use of the SQLite functions in your project. On 5/13/07 6:57 AM, Viktoras Didziulis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway I see this as the only way to implement any scripting and formula translation in Revolution, otherwise your end users are likely to smash into the infamous scriptlimit which is 10 lines of Revcode. | | | )_) )_) )_) )___))___))___)\ )))_)\\ _|||\\\__ ---\ /- http://www.bluewatermaritime.com ^ ^ ^^^ ^^ ^^^ 24 hour cell: (787) 378-6190 fax: (815) 331-0838 Blue Water Maritime P.O. Box 2087 Rio Grande, PR 00745 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Cluster analysis
Hi David, You may find these resources helpful: http://obelia.jde.aca.mmu.ac.uk/multivar/ca.htm http://www.statsoft.com/textbook/stcluan.html Best wishes Viktoras ---Original Message--- From: David Glasgow Date: 09/05/2007 12:16:05 To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Cluster analysis Anyone out there in Revland understand cluster analysis? How hard would it be to a/ script the analysis b/ draw a visual representation of clusters Even better, anyone out there who has already done it? Best Wishes, David Glasgow Carlton Glasgow Partnership http://www.i-psych.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT : equivalent of BBEdit on Windows ?
Try Crimson editor: http://www.crimsoneditor.com/ Supports syntax highliting of lots of languages, regular expressions, replace on multiple documents. Extendable via custom syntax files. Multiple redo and undo, macros, spell checker, etc... There is a project to port it to multiple OSes: http://www.emeraldeditor com/ All the best! Viktoras ---Original Message--- From: jbv Date: 09/05/2007 12:17:40 To: How to use Revolution Subject: OT : equivalent of BBEdit on Windows ? Hi list, Could someone advise a text editor with functions similar to BBEdit on Windows ? Thanks in advance, JB ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
smartDraw and alternatives
what software for easy drawing eye-candy diagrams (Tree diagrams, ER, block diagrams from templates) do you usually use? I tried smartDraw (www smartdraw.com) but for some reason it is very unstable and almost unusable on my system, so decided to ask for your advice again on comparable alternatives (MacOSX, Linux, Windows). Thanks in advance! Regards Viktoras ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Crashes with 2.8.1 dp4
Can it be related to bug #3992 (already confirmed, but not yet fixed in dp5) ? Viktoras ---Original Message--- From: Malte Brill Date: 05/03/07 10:55:33 To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: Crashes with 2.8.1 dp4 Hi Joe, if you say the inspector changes things for your players this might be related to bug 4711. http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=4711 If you have anything to add to that (maybe a good recipe, as I find it to happen randomly that the inspector suddenly does act strangely), please add to the report. All the best, Malte But on subsequent openings of the Inspector, when things appeared not to be going right, the number would be changed from 1 to 2; sometimes from 2 to 3, depending on which player since there are a total of 9 of them. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: can't reach Rev Beta Test Manager via e-mail
Hi Bill, I have already re-sent my feedback this morning (09:08) to both addresses. May it be that both are still undelivered ?.. Once I had similar no-delivery problems when our national ISP servers were blacklisted by AOL. In case you have not yet received them I will try to resend these later today from my other mailing account. All the best! Viktoras ---Original Message--- From: Bill Marriott Date: 02/05/2007 15:33:27 To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: can't reach Rev Beta Test Manager via e-mail Viktoras, A few days (25 04 2007) ago I have sent my feedback on top 5 problems of the latest Revolution beta release. Today (01 05 2007) I found the following message in my inbox : [failure report] Is there another way to submit the top 5? The bugs are already submitted to quality center. I've been getting plenty of email so this may be a temporary problem, or something solvable at least. Don't worry there's still time to get your request in to me. Please try to re-send to bill.marriott(at)runrev.com and if this fails, you may write to me at wjm(at)wjm.org. - Bill ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
can't reach Rev Beta Test Manager via e-mail
A few days (25 04 2007) ago I have sent my feedback on top 5 problems of the latest Revolution beta release. Today (01 05 2007) I found the following message in my inbox : This is the Postfix program at host mail.runrev.com. I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below. For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the attached returned message. The Postfix program [EMAIL PROTECTED] (expanded from [EMAIL PROTECTED]): host wjm.org[69.65.21.110] said: 451 Could not complete sender verify callout (in reply to RCPT TO command) - Is there another way to submit the top 5? The bugs are already submitted to quality center. All the best! Viktoras ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
slightly off-topic: software marketing issues
Can anyone recommend any good books or online resources on how to market and sell software products, arrange beta testing, choose suitable type of licensing, avoid pitfalls (unsatisfied customers, money-back and related things), creating product website, user groups, forums, mailing lists, software registration database; source code protection means and policies, and what-else-to-take-care-of... Thanks in advance! Best wishes Viktoras ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Irregularly shaped hotspots on image
Is there a standard method of setting irregularly shaped invisible hotspots on images displayed on a stack ? I have a few images with lots of fish on them. Need to highlight each fish and display its name on mouseEnter. Now I am drawing a polygon around each fish, setting its tool tip to fish name and putting a script that passes the long id of the polygon to a handler to change polygon's ink from noop to blend. And vice versa on mouseLeave. Additionally it displays contents of polygon's tooltip in a separate field (in case the tooltip does not appear immediately on mousenter). The drawback of this approach is that while highlights are irregular, hotspots are still rectangular and sometimes hotspot of a large fish blocks all the small fishes around. So I have to adjust ordering of polygons sending larger to back and bringing the smallest to front to avoid blocking. Are there other alternative techniques ? Best! Viktoras ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Obtaining the size of a file
This is an example from documentation, assuming your file is MyFile.txt: get the detailed files filter it with MyFile.txt,* put item 2 of it + item 3 of it into myFileSize There is also size property which reports the amount of disk space taken by an object to judge how much memory an object takes when displayed. E.g.: get the size of image myImage However the size property of a stack does not report any meaningful value and is always 1. All the best! Viktoras ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Revolution license
I have just red Using Revolution with Filemaker Pro and Bill mentions that the Revolution license simply asks you to put one line, Portions (c)2000-2008 Runtime Revolution Limited, All Rights Reserved Worldwide below your own copyright notice... Does this mean any program that I distribute should have this lengthy copyright notice or otherwise I am violating the terms and conditions of the Run Rev license ? If I put my copyright notice on a splash- screen then does this mean that Revolution's copyright notice should appear next ? Isn't it all right to mention Created with Revolution with a link to runrev.com somewhere deeper (in about section or end user license agreement). In some cases I would also prefer not to reveal any technical details on how my app was created. Isn't it enough then create a link to Runtime Revolution's website from my own website (I promise to do this) without explicitly disclosing technologies used for each particular application? All the best! Viktoras ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Bootcamp and Parallels
You may try an alternative - VMware player (www.vmware.com). It is free of charge even for commercial use. I use it on my Windows machine and it can virtualize all flavours of Linux, BeOS, Solaris and NetWare. I tried it with Puppy, PCLinux, Slackware Vector Linux, DSLinux, Open Solaris (Belenix), FreeBSD (PC-BSD). It also runs other 'nixes or MS Windows inside a host Linux, etc, etc.. It can be used as a sandbox for secure Internet browsing on Windows via the browser appliance (Linux/Firefox). The only thing you may need to start with is a livecd iso image of the guest OS and a simple configuration file. As far as I know it is also available for MacOSX - check for VMware Fusion, but it may be still in beta stage... They also offer commercial packages like VMware ESX server, VMware virtual center, Virtual SMP which allows a guest operating system to see up to 4 cpus in the virtual machine, vmware distributed resource scheduler and vmware consolidated backup... configuration file template for vector linux: config.version = 8 virtualHW.version = 4 scsi0.present = FALSE memsize = 256 ide1:0.present = TRUE ide1:0.fileName = VLSOHO-5.1.2-LIVE-5.iso ide1:0.deviceType = cdrom-image floppy0.present = FALSE ethernet0.present = TRUE usb.present = TRUE sound.present = TRUE sound.virtualDev = es1371 displayName = Vector Slackware LiveCD guestOS = otherlinux nvram = otherlinux.nvram workingDir = . Just thought this might be of some use... All the best Viktoras ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
