Re: [OT/ANN] Now I'm a father

2004-01-06 Thread Stephen Quinn Barncard
There seems to be a few minutes of extreme lucidity in newborns right 
after birth. My son immediately grabbed my glasses after I picked him 
up, held onto them, and laughed at me, looking me right in the eyes.


Put your face in front of your baby and stick out your tongue. What 
happens is that they stick out their tongue.

Kee

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Re: [OT/ANN] Now I'm a father

2004-01-06 Thread Judy Perry
Mine didn't get it... they both zonked almost immediately after being
pulled out.

Of course, they're MORE than making up for it now ;-)

Judy

On Tue, 6 Jan 2004, Stephen Quinn Barncard wrote:

 There seems to be a few minutes of extreme lucidity in newborns right
 after birth. My son immediately grabbed my glasses after I picked him
 up, held onto them, and laughed at me, looking me right in the eyes.


 
 Put your face in front of your baby and stick out your tongue. What
 happens is that they stick out their tongue.
 
 
 Kee
 
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Re: [OT/ANN] Now I'm a father

2004-01-05 Thread kee nethery
On Jan 3, 2004, at 1:54 PM, erik hansen wrote:

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I'd like to recommend a book

Baby Signs

we picked a handful of signs and used them with
the words when we communicated with our baby.
were these signs pictures, words or both?
the implication is that all infants are
frustrated non-communicators.
no wonder they cry.
They are hand signs that are specific to what a baby can do with their 
hands. Much of ASL (American Sign Language?) involves using fingers and 
babies (or at least ours) wasn't able to do ASL style signs. These I 
guess are more akin to gestures. He learned roughly 6 of the 12 we 
decided to use on a regular basis and he made up around 6 of his own 
that we picked up on. We did not go through the frustrated 
non-communicator stage. It was s cool when after a shower and we 
had dried him off, when he asked for More Shower (since those were two 
signs he could do). So we stuck him back in the shower and he was 
amazingly happy.

Kee

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Re: [OT/ANN] Now I'm a father

2004-01-05 Thread Ryno Swart


They are hand signs that are specific to what a baby can do with their
hands. Much of ASL (American Sign Language?) involves using fingers and
babies (or at least ours) wasn't able to do ASL style signs. These I
guess are more akin to gestures. He learned roughly 6 of the 12 we
decided to use on a regular basis and he made up around 6 of his own
that we picked up on. We did not go through the frustrated
non-communicator stage. It was s cool when after a shower and we
had dried him off, when he asked for More Shower (since those were two
signs he could do). So we stuck him back in the shower and he was
amazingly happy.
Wonderful stuff, Kee,

How I wish I had known about these signs! Here is an amazing experiment 
you can try, Malte... I did it with our newborn, some years ago.

When you walk the baby up and down the passage, and you will, and you 
do that slow smooth turn at the end of your length, watch your baby. If 
there is something that grasps his attention (a light pattern on the 
wall is a good one), you'll note that as you turn your body and his 
away, his head stays lined up with the object of his attention. Now you 
can move around, dip and lean, duck and weave, and his little head will 
adjust as required to keep looking at the spot of light. The muscle 
control is unbelievable, and supposed not to be there at all. I believe 
that our lives are governed not by fate, not even by free will, but by 
the play of our attention. Ah, how I wish I had known about this book!

Ryno.
http://artistvision.org ...a work in progress...
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Re: [OT/ANN] Now I'm a father

2004-01-05 Thread kee nethery
On Jan 5, 2004, at 3:59 AM, Ryno Swart wrote:

How I wish I had known about these signs! Here is an amazing 
experiment you can try, Malte... I did it with our newborn, some years 
ago.

In the book The Scientist In The Crib one of the authors relates an 
experiment he performed on a bunch of newborns for a period of time. He 
would make arrangements to test each newborn as soon as possible after 
the birth. The earliest he tested was 40 something minutes. Figured I'd 
try it on my son and he got the test after about 5 minutes while they 
were cleaning him.

Put your face in front of your baby and stick out your tongue. What 
happens is that they stick out their tongue.

OK, now think about this. Baby has not been using their eyes except for 
a handful of minutes. They have this thing in front of them that they 
have never seen before (a human face), and that thing does something. 
They have enough prewired stuff going on to know:

1. That the new sensory input they are receiving can be interpreted.
2. That the movement they see is actually one object.
3. That the object in front of them is doing something
4. That they can probably do the same thing.
5. That to do the same thing they have to move specific muscles.
6. And that they have a desire to do the same thing.
7. And then they can put it all together and stick out their tongue.
Way amazing to interact with a baby that is just 5 minutes old.

To relate this to Revolution (since this is the Revolution mailing 
list) it would be similar to launching Revolution for the first time 
and it creating a stack that learns what you want it to do by the way 
you move your mouse and type on the keyboard and then builds one part 
of that stack 5 minutes after initial launch. :-)  (OK so relating this 
to Revolution is a stretch.)

Kee

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Re: [OT/ANN] Now I'm a father

2004-01-05 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 1/5/04 4:29 PM, Malte Brill wrote:

http://www.derbrill.de/linus
Oh my, he's beautiful!

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Re: [OT/ANN] Now I'm a father

2004-01-03 Thread Judy Perry
Funny, really, because I bought that book when my twins (now nearly three)
were born and didn't much like it.

What I DID do was teach them a bit of real sign language (ASL) and they
DO still use it (as an example, my little girl was going into meltdown
over something she wanted but didn't know how to vocalise the word -- book
-- but did it with her hands... pretty cool...).

Plus now she's acquiring another language (in addition to English and
Spanish).

Judy

On Fri, 2 Jan 2004, kee nethery wrote:

 I'd like to recommend a book

 Baby Signs

 we picked a handful of signs and used them with the words when we
 communicated with our baby. At three months he could sign for more, and
 drink, and shower and best of all, he could tell us that he wanted his
 diaper changed. Half of the signs he got from us, half we got from him.
 He no longer uses the signs because his vocabulary is so extensive. I
 know the signing reduced his frustration levels by giving him a
 framework for communication.

 Highly recommended.

 The other advise I have is get a field notebook that will last for
 decades and keep notes in it about your kid. Think of it as the
 official log book. My wife just remembers stuff but I need it
 documented. When we go to the doctor I can refer to my notes in the
 book and answer questions. Figure when he's off to college he'll be
 able to refer to it when his doctor asks him did you have ...? or
 when was the last time you got a shot for ...?

 Have fun!

 Kee Nethery



 On Jan 2, 2004, at 9:32 PM, Dan Friedman wrote:

  Malte,
 
  When my son was born, my father-in-law said It best...
 
  The new boss is in town!  :)
 
 
  Congratulations on the addition to the Brill family!
 
  -Dan
 
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Re: [OT/ANN] Now I'm a father

2004-01-03 Thread erik hansen

--- kee nethery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'd like to recommend a book
 
 Baby Signs
 
 we picked a handful of signs and used them with
 the words when we communicated with our baby. 

were these signs pictures, words or both?
the implication is that all infants are
frustrated non-communicators.
no wonder they cry.

some kind of motion sensor could probably
connect these minds (not little) to the
rest of the universe.

Erik Hansen

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Re: [OT/ANN] Now I'm a father

2004-01-03 Thread Dar Scott
On Saturday, January 3, 2004, at 02:54 PM, erik hansen wrote:

Baby Signs

we picked a handful of signs and used them with
the words when we communicated with our baby.
were these signs pictures, words or both?
the implication is that all infants are
frustrated non-communicators.
no wonder they cry.
some kind of motion sensor could probably
connect these minds (not little) to the
rest of the universe.
At our house we did not use signing, but we did use flying in which 
the person holding the baby was the motion sensor (or horse or grasp or 
dragon depending on how you think of baby flying).

Dar



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Re: [OT/ANN] Now I'm a father

2004-01-02 Thread Dan Friedman
Malte,

When my son was born, my father-in-law said It best...

The new boss is in town!  :)


Congratulations on the addition to the Brill family!

-Dan

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