Re: A Slightly More Complex revLet Question

2009-08-10 Thread Andre Garzia
That approach can also be done with On-Rev

RevOpenDatabase ...

switch $_GET["query"]
  case "clientdata"
put ""SELECT * FROM clients WHERE username = '" & $_GET['param1'] & "'"
into tSQL
break;
   ...
  end switch
  put RevDataFromQuery(cr, tab, tDatabaseID, tSQL) into tData

and so on...

On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Brian Yennie  wrote:

> Len,
>
> FWIW, I would recommend going the PHP route (or any server side language).
> That way you will never have to worry about a firewall, and won't have to
> maintain any sort of database connectivity from inside a browser. Do revLets
> support ODBC?
>
> You can just say something like:
>
> put url "http://myserver.com/db.php?query=clientdata¶m1=george"; into
> georgeData
>
> On the server:
>
> mysql->connect(..)
>
> $query = $_GET["query"]
>
> switch ($query) {
>case "clientdata"
>$sql = "SELECT * FROM clients WHERE username =
> '".$_GET['param1']."'";
>break;
>...
> }
>
> $data = mysql->query(..);
>
> ...
>
>
> Maintenance becomes very easy. One line on the client to make a query, just
> write the PHP script once and add queries as you need them.
>
>
>  The particular customer would have the web server farm and SQL Server
>> (Microsoft's) in the same server room so security shouldn't be an issue
>> unless the revlet can somehow be broken into on the client end.  Most of the
>> end users have trouble spelling G.E.D. so this is a minimal risk but it is
>> there.  Perhaps I AM making it more complicated (in my head) than it really
>> is.  I'll have to use ODBC because we don't have either other DB Driver that
>> can speak to a SQL Server.
>>
>> My immediate issue is they would like to see some sort of demonstration of
>> what's possible (after all, the app I'm trying to replace was written over a
>> 10 year period!)  not the finished product.  Therefore, I'd like to upload
>> the sample program to my on-Rev account and have them access the data on my
>> desktop computer at home (which has a SQL Server and some old data on it).
>>  I don't offhand know what port SQL Server uses but I have no problems with
>> them accessing the data directly for a limited time and I don't think they
>> will have a problem with this revLet accessing THEIR SQL Server if they
>> decide to green-light the project.
>>
>> I'll do some playing around with it.
>>
>> Len Morgan
>> KTTK, Inc.
>>
>> Mark Schonewille wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Len,
>>>
>>> Yes, if the server allows it, you can do all you describe. It is indeed
>>> recommendable to use a cgi or irev to connect to MySql. I use PHP for this.
>>> Many hosts, including yours sincerely, don't allow a direct a connection to
>>> a database from a MySQL client.
>>>
>>> Why would you put effort into keeping a connection alive? I don't think
>>> that keeping a connection alive will increase transaction speed
>>> significantly, unless you can connect to a database directly, without
>>> cgi/irev/php.
>>>
>>> You can write a cgi or php script, for instance, which interprets a query
>>> from your client and executes it. I would consider this rather insecure,
>>> because a hacker who finds out how to send queries gets full control over
>>> your database.
>>>
>>> You can get a url or use the post command to connect to a server and send
>>> your query from your revlet the same way you can from a desktop standalone.
>>>
>>> Why is this complex?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Mark Schonewille
>>>
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Re: A Slightly More Complex revLet Question

2009-08-09 Thread Brian Yennie

Len,

FWIW, I would recommend going the PHP route (or any server side  
language). That way you will never have to worry about a firewall, and  
won't have to maintain any sort of database connectivity from inside a  
browser. Do revLets support ODBC?


You can just say something like:

put url "http://myserver.com/db.php?query=clientdata¶m1=george";  
into georgeData


On the server:

mysql->connect(..)

$query = $_GET["query"]

switch ($query) {
case "clientdata"
$sql = "SELECT * FROM clients WHERE username = 
'".$_GET['param1']."'";
break;
...
}

$data = mysql->query(..);

...


Maintenance becomes very easy. One line on the client to make a query,  
just write the PHP script once and add queries as you need them.



The particular customer would have the web server farm and SQL  
Server (Microsoft's) in the same server room so security shouldn't  
be an issue unless the revlet can somehow be broken into on the  
client end.  Most of the end users have trouble spelling G.E.D. so  
this is a minimal risk but it is there.  Perhaps I AM making it more  
complicated (in my head) than it really is.  I'll have to use ODBC  
because we don't have either other DB Driver that can speak to a SQL  
Server.


My immediate issue is they would like to see some sort of  
demonstration of what's possible (after all, the app I'm trying to  
replace was written over a 10 year period!)  not the finished  
product.  Therefore, I'd like to upload the sample program to my on- 
Rev account and have them access the data on my desktop computer at  
home (which has a SQL Server and some old data on it).  I don't  
offhand know what port SQL Server uses but I have no problems with  
them accessing the data directly for a limited time and I don't  
think they will have a problem with this revLet accessing THEIR SQL  
Server if they decide to green-light the project.


I'll do some playing around with it.

Len Morgan
KTTK, Inc.

Mark Schonewille wrote:

Hi Len,

Yes, if the server allows it, you can do all you describe. It is  
indeed recommendable to use a cgi or irev to connect to MySql. I  
use PHP for this. Many hosts, including yours sincerely, don't  
allow a direct a connection to a database from a MySQL client.


Why would you put effort into keeping a connection alive? I don't  
think that keeping a connection alive will increase transaction  
speed significantly, unless you can connect to a database directly,  
without cgi/irev/php.


You can write a cgi or php script, for instance, which interprets a  
query from your client and executes it. I would consider this  
rather insecure, because a hacker who finds out how to send queries  
gets full control over your database.


You can get a url or use the post command to connect to a server  
and send your query from your revlet the same way you can from a  
desktop standalone.


Why is this complex?

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Best regards,

Mark Schonewille

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Re: A Slightly More Complex revLet Question

2009-08-09 Thread Mark Wieder
Len-

Sunday, August 9, 2009, 11:01:18 AM, you wrote:

> old data on it).  I don't offhand know what port SQL Server uses but I
> have no problems with them accessing the data directly for a limited

I believe this is configurable at the server end (and if their IT
folks are on the ball they will have changed it) but by default SQL
Server uses ports 1433 (TCP) and 1434 (UDP). HTH.

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Re: A Slightly More Complex revLet Question

2009-08-09 Thread Len Morgan
The particular customer would have the web server farm and SQL Server 
(Microsoft's) in the same server room so security shouldn't be an issue 
unless the revlet can somehow be broken into on the client end.  Most of 
the end users have trouble spelling G.E.D. so this is a minimal risk but 
it is there.  Perhaps I AM making it more complicated (in my head) than 
it really is.  I'll have to use ODBC because we don't have either other 
DB Driver that can speak to a SQL Server.


My immediate issue is they would like to see some sort of demonstration 
of what's possible (after all, the app I'm trying to replace was written 
over a 10 year period!)  not the finished product.  Therefore, I'd like 
to upload the sample program to my on-Rev account and have them access 
the data on my desktop computer at home (which has a SQL Server and some 
old data on it).  I don't offhand know what port SQL Server uses but I 
have no problems with them accessing the data directly for a limited 
time and I don't think they will have a problem with this revLet 
accessing THEIR SQL Server if they decide to green-light the project.


I'll do some playing around with it.

Len Morgan
KTTK, Inc.

Mark Schonewille wrote:

Hi Len,

Yes, if the server allows it, you can do all you describe. It is 
indeed recommendable to use a cgi or irev to connect to MySql. I use 
PHP for this. Many hosts, including yours sincerely, don't allow a 
direct a connection to a database from a MySQL client.


Why would you put effort into keeping a connection alive? I don't 
think that keeping a connection alive will increase transaction speed 
significantly, unless you can connect to a database directly, without 
cgi/irev/php.


You can write a cgi or php script, for instance, which interprets a 
query from your client and executes it. I would consider this rather 
insecure, because a hacker who finds out how to send queries gets full 
control over your database.


You can get a url or use the post command to connect to a server and 
send your query from your revlet the same way you can from a desktop 
standalone.


Why is this complex?

--
Best regards,

Mark Schonewille

Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
http://economy-x-talk.com

Submit your software products to http://www.quickestpublisher.com and 
get found!


On 9 aug 2009, at 18:43, Len Morgan wrote:

I'm trying to convert one of Tcl/TK programs to work on a web server 
instead of the desktop.  Because of the Sarbanes/Oxley Act, this will 
save them a lot of money.


My question is:

I can convert the screens/tabs/menus fairly easily to a revLet.  In 
fact, this is going rather smoothly.  The problem is that the data to 
fill the fields comes from a SQL server.  I assume that I'm going to 
need some sort of .cgi/.irev program to send a query to and get the 
results back from.  Will this require a connect/disconnect every time 
I need to get data?  Can I create a generic cgi/irev program to 
receive a query and return tab delimited records?


Better still, can I "connect" from my revLet and keep the connection 
open and talk to the server directly from the revLet?


As I said in my subject, this is a much more complex use of the 
revLet than I've seen talked about here.


Any help and/or advice would be appreciated.

Len Morgan
KTTK, Inc.



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Re: A Slightly More Complex revLet Question

2009-08-09 Thread Mark Schonewille

Hi Len,

Yes, if the server allows it, you can do all you describe. It is  
indeed recommendable to use a cgi or irev to connect to MySql. I use  
PHP for this. Many hosts, including yours sincerely, don't allow a  
direct a connection to a database from a MySQL client.


Why would you put effort into keeping a connection alive? I don't  
think that keeping a connection alive will increase transaction speed  
significantly, unless you can connect to a database directly, without  
cgi/irev/php.


You can write a cgi or php script, for instance, which interprets a  
query from your client and executes it. I would consider this rather  
insecure, because a hacker who finds out how to send queries gets full  
control over your database.


You can get a url or use the post command to connect to a server and  
send your query from your revlet the same way you can from a desktop  
standalone.


Why is this complex?

--
Best regards,

Mark Schonewille

Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
http://economy-x-talk.com

Submit your software products to http://www.quickestpublisher.com and  
get found!


On 9 aug 2009, at 18:43, Len Morgan wrote:

I'm trying to convert one of Tcl/TK programs to work on a web server  
instead of the desktop.  Because of the Sarbanes/Oxley Act, this  
will save them a lot of money.


My question is:

I can convert the screens/tabs/menus fairly easily to a revLet.  In  
fact, this is going rather smoothly.  The problem is that the data  
to fill the fields comes from a SQL server.  I assume that I'm going  
to need some sort of .cgi/.irev program to send a query to and get  
the results back from.  Will this require a connect/disconnect every  
time I need to get data?  Can I create a generic cgi/irev program to  
receive a query and return tab delimited records?


Better still, can I "connect" from my revLet and keep the connection  
open and talk to the server directly from the revLet?


As I said in my subject, this is a much more complex use of the  
revLet than I've seen talked about here.


Any help and/or advice would be appreciated.

Len Morgan
KTTK, Inc.



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A Slightly More Complex revLet Question

2009-08-09 Thread Len Morgan
I'm trying to convert one of Tcl/TK programs to work on a web server 
instead of the desktop.  Because of the Sarbanes/Oxley Act, this will 
save them a lot of money.


My question is:

I can convert the screens/tabs/menus fairly easily to a revLet.  In 
fact, this is going rather smoothly.  The problem is that the data to 
fill the fields comes from a SQL server.  I assume that I'm going to 
need some sort of .cgi/.irev program to send a query to and get the 
results back from.  Will this require a connect/disconnect every time I 
need to get data?  Can I create a generic cgi/irev program to receive a 
query and return tab delimited records?


Better still, can I "connect" from my revLet and keep the connection 
open and talk to the server directly from the revLet?


As I said in my subject, this is a much more complex use of the revLet 
than I've seen talked about here.


Any help and/or advice would be appreciated.

Len Morgan
KTTK, Inc.
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