Applying the concept of Images libraries (vector and bitmaps )
Hi all, Recently, i have been advising some fellow teachers about using revMedia to create educational content. One of the most frequent request that i found, is the possibility of reusing images (vector and bitmaps) across different stacks and reusing the same images in the one stack with variations in size, ink effects, inside groups, etc, without including the same images several times, to achieve the desired effect. Notice that Graphics software, like Adobe Ilustrator, Flash and Xara have implemented this concept: http://www.jnack.com/adobe/flash/symbols.html How could we implement this concept with our stacks, so there is not need to import the same bitmaps or vector graphics to apply different effects or dimensions in different cards? Thanks in advance! al -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Applying-the-concept-of-Images-libraries-%28vector-and-bitmaps-%29-tp25813844p25813844.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Applying the concept of Images libraries (vector and bitmaps )
Recently, capellan wrote: One of the most frequent request that i found, is the possibility of reusing images (vector and bitmaps) across different stacks and reusing the same images in the one stack with variations in size, ink effects, inside groups, etc, without including the same images several times, to achieve the desired effect. Notice that Graphics software, like Adobe Ilustrator, Flash and Xara have implemented this concept: http://www.jnack.com/adobe/flash/symbols.html How could we implement this concept with our stacks, so there is not need to import the same bitmaps or vector graphics to apply different effects or dimensions in different cards? One way to implement symbols with images is (ironically) by using buttons or graphics: set the icon of a button or the backPattern of a graphic to the id of an image. This effectively allows you to have one source image in your stack that is referenced in multiple places; changing the source image will cause all references to the source to update. If one can live with external files, the fileName property is another way to implement symbolic references for images. For graphics, the only roundabout way I can think of implementing some kind of symbolic reference is by retrieving properties of a source graphic and applying the properties to a reference graphic. Obviously, this is not a true symbolic connection, but rather a klunky workaround. The really phenomenal aspect of symbols in Flash comes into play via distortions: in most cases, if you distort a symbol on the stage, say by adjusting its dimensions, skew, angle, or some other property, then replacing that symbol with another symbol causes the newly replaced symbol to inherit the modifications of the original symbol. In my view, this is a seriously powerful feature of Adobe's symbol implementation that would be great to see in Rev. For myself, I believe there are more pressing items desperately needed, such as sub-pixel positioning of objects and irregular distortion of images. FWIW. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Applying the concept of Images libraries (vector and bitmaps )
Hi Scott, Many thanks for answering this request. How do you handle the particular case, where the same image is used in different cards using varied ink effects and sizes? Why is important sub-pixel positioning and imge distortions? Thanks in advance! al Scott Rossi wrote: One way to implement symbols with images is (ironically) by using buttons or graphics: set the icon of a button or the backPattern of a graphic to the id of an image. This effectively allows you to have one source image in your stack that is referenced in multiple places; changing the source image will cause all references to the source to update. If one can live with external files, the fileName property is another way to implement symbolic references for images. For graphics, the only roundabout way I can think of implementing some kind of symbolic reference is by retrieving properties of a source graphic and applying the properties to a reference graphic. Obviously, this is not a true symbolic connection, but rather a klunky workaround. The really phenomenal aspect of symbols in Flash comes into play via distortions: in most cases, if you distort a symbol on the stage, say by adjusting its dimensions, skew, angle, or some other property, then replacing that symbol with another symbol causes the newly replaced symbol to inherit the modifications of the original symbol. In my view, this is a seriously powerful feature of Adobe's symbol implementation that would be great to see in Rev. For myself, I believe there are more pressing items desperately needed, such as sub-pixel positioning of objects and irregular distortion of images. FWIW. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Applying-the-concept-of-Images-libraries-%28vector-and-bitmaps-%29-tp25813844p25814407.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Applying the concept of Images libraries (vector and bitmaps )
capellan wrote: Recently, i have been advising some fellow teachers about using revMedia to create educational content. One of the most frequent request that i found, is the possibility of reusing images (vector and bitmaps) across different stacks and reusing the same images in the one stack with variations in size, ink effects, inside groups, etc, without including the same images several times, to achieve the desired effect. Notice that Graphics software, like Adobe Ilustrator, Flash and Xara have implemented this concept: http://www.jnack.com/adobe/flash/symbols.html How could we implement this concept with our stacks, so there is not need to import the same bitmaps or vector graphics to apply different effects or dimensions in different cards? Everything is smoke and mirrors with software. When Illustrator makes a symbol it's still a copy, but maintains a reference to some source object from which its properties are derived. With Rev, we have: set the properties of obj to the properties of obj You can also modify the properties array - for example, this will assign the properties of one button to those of anothe but allow the destination object to keep its own name, label, and rect: on mouseUp put the properties of btn aaa into tObjA delete var tObjA[label] delete var tObjA[name] delete var tObjA[rect] set the properties of btn bbb to tObjA end mouseUp -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Applying the concept of Images libraries (vector and bitmaps )
capellan wrote: Hi Scott, Many thanks for answering this request. How do you handle the particular case, where the same image is used in different cards using varied ink effects and sizes? You can apply different inks and sizes to several image objects that use the same file reference on disk. That way you have one reference image on the hard drive, and many different images that reference it, each with their own variations. You don't have to do anything special, just create a new image object on the card, set its file reference, and apply any ink and sizing you want. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Applying the concept of Images libraries (vector and bitmaps )
Recently, capellan wrote: How do you handle the particular case, where the same image is used in different cards using varied ink effects and sizes? I haven't had to do this. If you need to scale/affect an instance of the image, I suppose you could follow the method of the graphic symbol hack: use a source image and an instance image, and manually script something like put img mySource into img myInstance. This way you can tweak the instance image separately from the source image. As soon as you run the previous script, though, the instance will take on the characteristics of the source, but if the instance is locked, it will stay scaled. Why is important sub-pixel positioning and imge distortions? Sub-pixel positioning will improve the results of object rotation and movement because currently these actions are somewhat coarse -- rotating a dial, for example, jumps around because the 1 pixel resolution in Rev is not fine enough to produce smooth rotation. Irregular image distortion would us to better create effects like page turns, cover flow/carousel effects, and simulate 3D manipulation of images. There is currently no way to create these kind of effects natively within Rev -- you need to create a series of frame images outside of Rev that are pre-distorted. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
